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Okay Here everyone welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 87 Probably gonna be a little bit of a shorter one I think always say I think mostly because we want to get to watching a football game tonight But for those that don't know we record on Thursday nights And yes, that actually means next week like not next week's podcast But the one you hear afterwards will be on Thanksgiving that we're recording and it's gonna be our most full podcast ever on a holiday So apparently we just set the schedule podcast on holidays all the time and that's how that's all in with a full podcast Anyways We got some awesome topics to talk to you some of this stuff is stuff I've kind of covered a little bit in individual videos some of it's just something I haven't really talked about at all And Eric obviously hasn't been on camera to talk about any of it. Now. I do want to know our caveat for this We will not be talking about Pokemon Let's go Evie or Pikachu Because we don't have the games yet and I think it's better for us to talk about it not based on other people's coverage But based on our own experiences and we'll be able to do that in full next week because we will have essentially a full week With the games at that point. I'm sure one of us will probably have beaten at least the main story by then And be working on the master trainers and the guests that are coming I know we're gonna be playing it as well In fact, our next podcast might be fully dedicated to Pokemon. Let's go Pikachu. Let's go Evie Much to everyone should grin out there who hates my positive coverage of the game But who knows maybe it ends up not being a positive Podcast we might end up hating it. So we'll just have to wait and see that means that By the way, you want to wait that long for my initial impressions? I Actually, I haven't talked to Eric well this year But I was gonna see if one of the one of these like like on Sunday or Monday if we can get together and just do a quick Like impression thing, but that's for that. That's for us to worry about then I don't I have to have the game first to know when I when I feel like a good time for impressions I mean said, let's get right into the top picture this week. Well, I guess first I'm the tender up a chance you guys should know me by now unless you're brand new and it's your first podcast ever first content You've ever seen it in 10 a prime. Thank you so much for tuning in. Hopefully you enjoy it This podcast is 100% funded by Patreon patreon.com slash Nintendo Prime. There's different tiers. You can be on a podcast You can watch the podcast as we're recording it I do also note before I introduce my pal over here that This will hopefully be the last podcast with this camera I say that because a body of ours is potentially sending me a very very nice and very Expensive capture card and assuming my computer doesn't craft the bed with it We will be using our professional camera for all future recordings of this podcast This is actually the only piece of content that isn't recorded with that camera So the nice thing about that is not that this is a bad webcam It's like the best webcam in the world. I don't know if you guys have any new user webcam it glitches out a lot and It's for it's for it's a 4k webcam There's like an issue with like the 3.1 port with 3.1 port on it And how it in like you would you would think because it uses usb-c that you would use a usb-c cable So a usb-c port on the computer for the best connectivity in the fastest No, because the usb-c port on the back of it doesn't actually support usb-c speeds It only supports usb 3.1 speeds So what's the hell is the point of a of a usb-c port on the back yeah beats the hell out of me But the problem is there's too much signal degradation through 3.1 And it just leads to issues the longer the cord is and if I use a really short cord We can't get the camera in here. So it just yeah, yeah, right, right, right. It is what it is So we'll be switching to the the Lumix g7 if people are wondering what gear we're gonna be using For hopefully the next podcast. I want to say for sure But the cards not here yet I'm gonna be talking to him tonight to see if he can try to get shipped out Over the weekend or Monday so then it can be here, you know two three days shipping be here in time But we'll worry about that when it's time to worry about that And of course because it's new technology on a podcast of four people We're probably gonna have lots and lots of issues because that's just how it goes Welcome to technology. All right So though my partner the left here is Eric Moore as always on every episode about one I think so far of the podcast. Yes. He's also the one that always gets the podcast up at Nintendo Prime dot net the only place We're every episode of the podcast from the beginning through now is actually available We're also on iTunes and Google Play and Podbean So there's a lot of places to find us Google Nintendo Prime podcast. You'll find up a way to say let me let me rephrase that It's the only place where the audio and visual Onlies are well. Here's the thing. There's no one YouTube channel that has all the video And there's no audio place that has all the audio So it's literally the only place to get the entire podcast at one spot. Yes So why is that? Well, it's a good question and maybe I will answer that If people are curious you got to ask the question But maybe I'll answer that on my new Prime answer series that I know on Saturdays Where I may answer people's questions in a standalone video not a live stream So that's a if you guys are interested in some of that. Maybe I will Exploiting the history of the podcast. There you go. It's crazy. It's actually a really interesting history. All right So our first topic we're dealing with our old pal from Russia the general the general manager of I could see you That's what I've been his official title is general manager. All right, okay, but it's kind of like Reggie There's like multiple titles like presidency. Anyway, yeah, he's the head honcho of Nintendo of Russia This guy, what's his name? Yasha Hadid. Sorry Hadid. All right, so he I couldn't find exact data on when he Became Their head honcho in Russia. It seems like it dates back at least to the we era some point during the we era so he's been there, you know over a decade or so and Some people have said, you know, he's done a few little positive things here and there that are good But then there's also the other side of things where he hasn't treated the trading card community very very well and I've heard that apparently the trading card community in Russia is a little pushy But when I hear some of the horror stories about how they've been treated It's also kind of understandable and I don't know if they sell them in there anymore From what I read on the one article. I don't remember where it's from but They said that they stopped selling Pokemon cards. Yeah, and another fun story. This is before we even get into the real story So he's in charge of everything so this includes game stocks and this includes The upcoming Let's Go Peach or Let's Go Eevee games and having those in stock for people to buy If you're looking for the Let's Go Eevee version, I really hope you don't live in Russia, right? Apparently he has ordered a bunch of Let's Go Pikachu's Apparently somehow Underselling the demand I've heard so I've heard that I've heard that there's not even gonna be There was pre-orders all the pre-orders are gone there's not gonna be any on the shelf and There's a bunch of people that want to play that don't have a choice But to buy digitally if they want to and you can't like he apparently there was hardly any orders for like hardly any Brought in for Let's Go Eevee. So everyone who wanted the Eevee version basically can't get it physically Crazy, so yeah, it's not like they have a massive market there. They're not known for having huge It's actually surprising they even have like a CEO and president when the market for Nintendo stuff isn't really huge in Russia This isn't an insult to our Russian viewers, you know if you live in Russia You know that like you might have a strong community, but it's not a big community And this is probably why what we're talking about today flew under the radar for so long So this guy Last year at a level up event, which is like a gaming event They do where they invite the public to come in and try out a bunch of Nintendo games sounds cool Right like yeah a big positive event Well, they live streamed from it just like the Nintendo Treehouse here in the United States And they were doing a Mario Kart 8 tournament last summer made a lot sense Mario Kart It was fresh cool. I mean that or Splatoon and pretty much what I would right. That's probably what I still would do Um smash bros probably now right now well until it comes out. Yes. Anyways, they were streaming on The number one social media platform in Russia, which by the way, isn't like your typical YouTube's and stuff like that because it's Russia So the number one social media platform in Russia They were streaming on and the stream was was going live and everything was going good and the host kicked it off and starting They were explaining things and commentating and out of nowhere This guy walks in and says I can't find the stream Must not be live blah blah blah right just just which is understandable you could be panicking So you give them the benefit of the doubt except all the employees kept telling him it is live Here's the link. Here it is. Well, I don't see it. I don't see it apparently The story goes that he didn't understand how the social media platform actually works because he doesn't use it So it was already being viewed by thousands of people live Yeah, but he just doesn't know how the platform works. He had no idea how to find it. Oh boy So anyways, so that's already like a how do you not know like your number one advertising platform? How do you not know right? Yeah, and then setting that aside? He Apparently he just I don't know what better way to say this he treats his employees like shit. Yeah, I Mean Excuse I kept being told for his behavior as well. It's Russia. I'm like doesn't mean anything Yeah, it could be Russia, but Nintendo has a code ethics That's independent of anything to do with whatever the laws are in the country So I'm not saying by the way before we get into this. I never say he broke the law, right? He might have I don't know the laws exactly So I can't tell you if he broke employment laws without he treated the employees, but he frequently dropped the R word retard if you're not sure what that is Calling a lot of people that asking them if they are that Threatening to fire people over the fact that he couldn't find the live stream and this is all happening live By the way, people are watching this happen he Started dropping f-bombs and telling people to f off and blah blah blah blah blah because everyone's trying to tell But it's live and everything's fine And he's just like no you don't tell me what to do like and then like there's contract employees there And he's any at one point It's like a 15-minute segment at one point. He's like I'm the one that signed your contract and f and pay you you don't tell me Yeah, I tell you and it's like e-peaning and power tripping all over him and apparently After this happened a whole bunch of former employees of Nintendo or Russia came out on social media platforms And been like yeah, like this is just how he is all the time normal This is not like that's this is not just him in one frustrating moment where he can't figure something out This is just how he treats employees. He treats them like gutter trash He has no understanding of modern methods of anything in marketing or anything in Russia He just doesn't get the market He just doesn't understand what he's doing and he treats all the other employees like crap who do get it and are doing what they're Supposed to do so anyways And this happened publicly obviously this goes massively against Nintendo's family. Yeah, well image So I put up a video about it and it's been interesting seeing some of the response Obviously, there's been a lot of like yeah, like this guy's a douche You know Nintendo's gonna fire him and some people were like well this you know it's happened back in summer of 2017 So why won't the Nintendo have already fired and it should have took the public out crying to potentially get him canned right and Apparently the initial segment of the stream they deleted and It's not like in the United States where there's so many people watching that somebody captured it It was just deleted However, it resurfaced recently because a cached version of it was still on that social media platform Someone discovered it took it now. It's on YouTube now. It's everywhere. You guys can't you're done. You can't have now You know the whole world has now and lots of big sites the IGNs the katakus the Euro gamers Everyone's covered in it now because this behavior is just unheard of in the video game industry It's her unheard of in business To treat employees the way that he was treating them telling them the f off telling contract employees that I pay I'm the one that signed your contract You don't tell me when all they were trying to tell him to do was how to find the stream on the social media platform That they are streaming on currently live Yeah, we're asking are you kept asking are we live and they're like, yes, we're live We are live right now. Well, I can't point it. Why can't I know? I had read though that there was a few technical difficulties in the beginning Yeah, there was a couple technical difficulties in the beginning, but that has come back had to do with the Mario Yeah, it had to do with the Mario, but but when he came in the technical difficulties were done Right, and then the Mario Kart froze froze like, you know, like eight minutes in or nine minutes in and then he just started Just going off on people over at freezing and they're just like, I mean, you know It's obviously a technology issue capture card issue mixer issue, you know, we know all about that stuff I deal with that stuff on the daily here. I I I literally saw it happening in my go-kid There's either something wrong with with the connection between the mixer and the capture cards and like that that I See it. I could see what's wrong or whatever if you're using a modified switch, you know There's something wrong that are overheated and it froze like I could see like what's going I don't need to like yell at people to get it fixed. Obviously, they know it's broken These are the professionals that know what they're doing. Let them work it out Like you can you can try to ask what's going on Yeah, you can even try to direct people and try to get information and try to figure out What do we do if the switch is broken? Do we have another one we can grab quick? Well, like yes, you absolutely should be doing like Reggie would be doing that at E3 if there was stuff going on Right, but you don't have to treat your employees like shit and make them feel like everything is their fault that they're screwing up Initially because you can't find the stream right and then because technical difficulties are happening Yeah, technical difficulties happen during the internal Treehouse live streaming We didn't hear any like like the video went away and there was like, oh technical difficulties and they just kept talking Yeah, you just kind of move on all that's handled behind the scenes, right? So one thing he came in front of a camera. He knew Was part of a live stream to yell at people when he could have went around and did it on the backside You're probably still would have heard him without how loud he was being but Yeah, at one point the hosts are like covering their microphones trying to protect the audience from the language He was like a large chunk of the thing has actually muffled audio because they're trying to block out Yeah, the really nasty stuff this guy So there's probably been worse things that you said and at one point towards the end the host When the guy walked away went went to somewhere else for like, I don't know 30 seconds The one guy the one guy goes the other like dude I'm never working at an event for Nintendo again, and I guess like yeah, this is effin ridiculous And then all of a sudden you can see they're just like laughing about it because there's like these are These were contract employee hosts like these weren't regulars for Nintendo. They were just contracted to host it and So like they're and they're saying this knowing full well, they're live Like at one point when the guy was cussing someone out They won't go like stuck his tongue out and then then the guy walk on he's like just get super serious He's like this is just for good. You do understand what's happening right now kind of thing Like the hosts fully were aware what was going on and they're just like it What are we gonna do and then he walks back and all of a sudden you see him just they like go from like laughing about it So just super serious like don't piss this guy out because what else is gonna say Yeah, right, you know, he bought the freaking can us right in the center. We're gonna pay checks here So I'm laughing at it, but it's honestly a very nasty thing and apparently there's a pattern of behavior The nothing's ever been done about one because they tried to hide it and Because it's such a small fan base and like a small segment of Nintendo I think it's easier when stuff like this happens bury it for even if Nintendo of Europe knew about it I don't know. I don't know that Nintendo of Japan ever knew about it But for Nintendo of Europe who did by the way, I know there's debate on if Russia's party Europe It doesn't matter this guy was appointed by Nintendo of Europe. Yeah, so they were the ones that hired him Obviously the branch in Russia runs underneath Nintendo of Europe It's possible the Nintendo of Europe knew about it but might have thought because it's such a small thing and a small You know in a small fan base and the outcries only, you know a few thousand people Think we'll just kind of sweep it. I hope it goes away. I hope it goes away Yeah, because the sensor was no video publicly available because nobody actually captured it at the time It's just a small 15-minute segment which again in the United States you'd be screwed But on that social media platform like they were he was smart enough to be like oh crap shot up the stream and delete it I mean here. Yeah, but of course, you know, they don't control the website the fact there was a cached version of it That was discovered. Yeah, so Yeah, I don't know if it was a cash for it was some sort of version that the website Yeah, it was it was on the back end of the website from one night from one night, right? It wasn't publicly seen right But if you dug through the code you could kind of like find through the URL of the initial stream You can kind of find a cache of it that wasn't deleted, right? And this is true on a lot of video platforms as well It's even true on YouTube like a video still like if YouTube deletes a video There's still like a cached version of it on YouTube. You just have to know where to find it so It's it's just ridiculous to me if I'm being completely honest. Yeah, don't react We're watching the game and the guy missed the field and I just watched her go like this. I'm like, don't react Um, I could pass it off. That wasn't much about pass off I didn't say anything at the time to shake your head to yeah, I could still be talking about that Now that we're completely off base. I think I I just don't know Yeah The thing is is the prevailing theories that it's okay because it's Russia which which it's not the Nintendo employees That work there the fans in Russia all agree. It's not okay. No, there's no way in heck This is within Nintendo's code of ethics to be okay, right even if that code of ethics doesn't apply in Russia Nintendo doesn't like bad PR. This is really bad PR now because Nintendo of Europe if they did know about it Didn't do anything at the time heads are gonna roll in Nintendo of Europe as well If there's any if they if Nintendo of Japan discovers anyone in Nintendo of Europe knew about this and didn't do anything Heads are gonna roll in the end of Europe as well because yeah And the thing is it sucks now because right now Nintendo Europe is kind of in a transition Where they have like a new president they instilled, you know around the time of this incident ironically that because the guy from Europe You know ordered to something and that actually might be another reason why I got swept maybe like how it got So it maybe it didn't get swept and maybe it just got missed because of the transition Yeah, I don't but the there's been a petition and fan outcry No, like yeah, I'm trying to get a hold of Nintendo Europe to get them to pay attention to them Yeah, you know there they're not like the US were like our fan outcry over something as silly as Waluigi not being in Smash is millions of people. Yeah, right pestering you on all social media platforms. There. It's just a few thousand It's like a whisper in the wind. Yeah, so I think I Mean obviously I'm not saying that Nintendo Russia wasn't aware of the backlash, of course they were They're aware of the backlash all the time, but they just don't care, you know, it's kind of like it's kind of like Vladimir Putin. He's aware of the backlash. He just doesn't care as long as he's in power. He's good. Yeah so The other prevailing theories that obviously that that he's in Putin's back pocket And no reason Nintendo put him in power there is because you can't really make progress in Russia Without being in the good graces of the government. Yeah But apparently there hasn't really been that much progress made anyways Even for all the positive things he's done the actual user base for Nintendo products hasn't really grown in Russia Now some of this is just because people in Russia are poor and there's nothing that can be really be done about it There's actually it's not just about trying to grow It's the realization that outside of like Moscow. No one really has any money so Even as you try to make game like he's apparently cut some prices on games So they're a little bit cheaper than PlayStation 4 and Xbox one Prices on consoles aren't cut and the console is the most expensive thing to get. Yeah, so It's just a very interesting thing. I think the 3ds, you know might might have done okay over there not great I heard it was something like 700 to a thousand people that owned it It's not a lot. There's a lot more people in Russia than just a thousand but It's they don't really the value out there is less on the entertainment. It sounds like I Mean you would figure the value could be high in entertainment to kind of escape from crappy lives a lot of people have but when they can't afford to Escape from the crappy lives they have And it kind of sucks and I'm not gonna get into the politics of the stuff going on over there But I think that this is just a really crappy situation That makes Nintendo on the whole look bad It looks like mismanagement not just at their level possibly at multiple levels of Nintendo of Europe And regardless of the guys in Putin's back pocket or not Nintendo cares way more about their public perception that not and now that this is a worldwide thing that everybody knows about if he's not Fired it does way more damage to Nintendo than Nintendo simply shutting down the Russian branch entirely if that's what happens Because say he isn't Putin's back pocket and he fires in cans the guy You know Nintendo Japan steps and be like number sorry. You're done. We're not paying you. Yeah, you're done You're done and that ends up killing Nintendo in Russia as bad as that it might be for Russian gamers PR wise it's the best. It's a better Oh, yeah Nintendo than anything and plus the switch me in region-free you could just get it You know, you just have them get it from other countries. I know it's a little interesting there But mm-hmm. I feel for you. We have people apparently we have more people On my channel watching from Russia than I realized so really? Maybe it's cuz my fiance is from Russia. I don't know You took a Russian course. That's what it is. There's so much Russian involved here You know, you guys didn't have any idea because I have nothing to do with Russia. Yeah But yeah, it's it's really interesting to me just this entire process and in my video I was angry because I Don't know that he's a crappy person. I mean it just sounds like he's crappy to his employees But he could just be egotistical and power tripping all the time and not wanting to ever take responsibility for We know plenty of people just here in the u.s. Not gonna name names. Yes. Yes, they're exactly the same way Oh boy, but It's no no for sure Well, the thing is the reason it made me mad is I don't I feel bad for the employees that are being treated that way Oh, it definitely these are pulled employees that probably when they thought they got a job at Nintendo of Russia in Russia Specifically they thought they hit the damn jackpot, right? Like a stable company Probably decent pay Probably located in one of the good parts of Russia To be treated like that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean They've had a high employee turnover apparently at a consistently good paying job How because they don't want to deal with him like it's not worth it Yeah, it's not worth it to them to take the abuse and probably fires them all the time Yeah, right because there are always the problem. They're always the problem. They're probably not the one quitting They're probably the one getting fired. Yeah it's It's just a bad situation. I really I really feel for all the employees that currently work there I feel for the ones that used to work there I Kind I don't know who else I should feel bad for like pardon me. What's this? I feel bad for Nintendo of Japan We don't know they maybe did know about it. Maybe they also swept around in the rug Now granted this wouldn't have been under furikawa. So not much would have probably changed but it's still You know, I don't think anyone like me about is not getting punished for it. He's obviously not given a craze He's got nothing to do with it. You assume he's got nothing to do with it Yeah, right, but I mean I find it hard to believe that only Like somehow they kept it internal at Russia and Nintendo of Europe had no idea No one at Nintendo of Europe right had any in any inkling that there was like they didn't get any fan emails Through a VPN service from someone from Russia, right about you know, right, right, but then again if they had no Proof Well, there's one backlash over this guy forever to and then 10 over Europe has done nothing But like the entire reason that we're talking about this thing is is it that's all kind of he said she said Why so I know and the and that's what's nice about the videos now We have proof right and I think that's the big thing on why so many Russian fans are actually happy that this video is now out Worldwide because that's pretty much the only way that he was probably gonna get fired Was pressure from the outside world on Nintendo to be like You are family-friendly you this makes no F bombs on a live stream Yeah, right and not just like, you know like a frustrated like I you know, you know like F this no F you Yeah, and are you an R like yeah What kind of questions are that to employees? Not one even when you're frustrated. Yeah Like that lingo sure comes up for some people when they're playing games and they get angry But usually it's because they're angry at themselves. Yeah, or they are angry as someone because like I'm replaying World of Warcraft a lot of times You know, I if I'm sucking in a PvP match somewhere like hey, Nate. Are you are? I'm like E3 am sure why not not literally no, but like yeah, I've made some stupid moves. I'm sorry great But like but but that's gamer lingo and I'm not I'm not saying that that's okay It's a cultural change like it has slowly changed it slowly become something you're hearing less and less You still do hear it in some games, but you're hearing it less and less as people become More aware that that the word carries more weight with it than you really thought of when you were a kid I'm a flamin. I used the word a lot when I was a kid And my mom was a social worker, so I knew better than most kids what that word meant, but it was just so Commonly used you didn't think anything of it. There's it was as common as sweet and dude back then you would use it all the time all the time Just like we used to call things gay. Yep, and we didn't really mean it like we are against Same-sex marriages. Yeah But we did mean it as an insult Yeah, like are you gay like what does that even mean? So so if they like the other sex, it's bad We weren't mentally thinking So No, I was a kid kid the way that that was insulted when we call people fairies, right? That was the insult we meant for same-sex stuff again These are things that you're not thinking about as a kid as much as when you grow up And you're like, all right, you know what that was really stupid, right and Culture and and all that stuff You know just like the n-word has kind of transformed a little bit over time It's still you know up in the air if like the n-i-g-g a version is something that like I'm allowed to say We know that you know people of color are allowed to say it But am I allowed to say you can say it depending on the crowd you're in You know like M&M can say it but like can other people yeah Cuz it's become a term because that turns become a term of endearment But then you still some people that get insulted because you're white and you don't have a right to say that We took that word back and and the kids really confusing, but the bottom line is it's a lot better than when I was a kid when I was a kid No one was allowed to say it not even the a version and now it's gotten to that point where it's okay for the people of color to say it as a term of endearment and It's even okay depending on the setting you're in the friends You haven't the crowd you're in to say it as if your other ethnicities as long as like people that are okay with it As long as they know hey This is just if you're if you're our friends with people of color and they constantly are calling you like my and my man Good job my end. Yeah, like you saying it back to him is not going to insult the guy because that's what you are to him Right turn of endearment But again, that's a social situation if I come out on a live stream and I start saying on a live stream People are gonna chastise the hell out of me. I don't I don't have that kind of relationship with any of you guys Yeah, I just don't So I can't like even oj from player essence. I can't call them that Yeah, I doubt he'd be insulted by it. He wouldn't call me ignorant or something But I wouldn't be insulted but I might even that close with him to use like yeah Maybe when I was younger the only thing like if this was an okay thing to say back then probably be stormy super at my school Yeah, cuz he was like he was like tight with everyone. So like he probably went to carrot it in today's world Yeah, but Then again, it's I don't know it's this is just a whole situation that I wish we weren't even talking about great but we are because There's obviously ongoing issues out in the world Not that this is one of the biggest issues out there But treatment of employees certainly is a common problem in society everywhere not just in Russia Yeah, and to see it happen at you know, my favorite video game company anyways It sucks But at least it's out there now and I think no matter what Nintendo's gonna have I mean the guy the guy's got to be can't no matter what his connections to Putin are no matter what's going on I just doesn't really matter at this point the public perception is like if they keep him Reggie's gonna be asked in every interview. Yeah for a call is gonna be asked at the next investor's meeting It's not going to go away because Nintendo's trying to protect a family-friendly image and this is the exact opposite of that Oh for sure And there's some people are gonna gonna be like well, it's not the worst thing that's ever happened to Allison wrap Allison wrap remember when we talked about her. Oh gosh because she was she was fired from Nintendo because she was like Doing some extra curricular activities, which by the way wasn't actually illegal But she was doing them and posing and having pictures taken and you know Nintendo obviously not cool with that goes against their family-friendly image and She was where Nintendo merchandise and some of it which actually did breach her contract I think that was actually what they used to to fire her with was because she was wearing Nintendo merchandise Yeah, she wasn't actually like trying to advertise Nintendo, but it's like right She has a bunch of Nintendo merchandise. Yeah, probably looks pretty good wearing the Nintendo merchandise and pictures So people could probably put two and two and then people brought up her college paper calling her This even bringing up still today like calling her a pedophile Because she taught it was a really weird college paper But Nintendo knew about the college paper like they knew about it when they hired her no one who digs up people's college papers No, like it happens now. It's the internet. It's the internet today But the only reason they did it was because the only reason they dug that up Yeah, was because she was already being fired for the other thing so they dug up a college paper that talked about pedophiles and I Don't want to say that it made pedophilia. Okay, but it kind of explained Some of the mental stuff behind pedophilia and why aspects of it might have been okay I didn't read the full paper right but bottom line is it was a college paper She wrote right and whether or not she believes it or not who knows but she wrote it for college She got a good grade on it Nintendo knew about the paper before they hired her and they didn't think it was a big They didn't view it as she was okay with pedophilia She was like it's okay to be a pedophile that that no not really what the paper concluded based on what I read of it It was a little bit hard to read based on my beliefs and I understand why for a lot of you guys You come down with the idea like that that paper is wrong. I get it But at no point to I think she's a pedophile there's zero evidence that she is a pedophile Just because she wrote that paper doesn't make her a pedophile. Maybe that was the assignment Maybe the mmm. Maybe that was yeah, you know on the college is different on the view of this person In college is a very different place. You do get into these super serious things and most of these things never come up in your professional career, so who cares right? It's what you had to do in college or you know, maybe it is possible that she was You know challenged to take out an opposing viewpoint on a controversial topic Exactly chose that right and she looked at maybe some of the psychological benefits for certain I guess maybe sickos out there where maybe Like the pedophilia stuff is a way to prevent them from becoming a worse monster, right, you know taking it from pedophilia to you know Taking advantage of an actual kid in real life in person right like yeah, you know, maybe and so again and this Some people say like that's worse and I'm like she didn't hurt anyone else. Okay. She literally didn't affect anybody else, so In fact, the reason she was fired. She probably gave pleasure to other people. So she she hurt anybody So I don't actually think that situation is worse, right regardless of what you think about the paper and the stuff She's done. I don't honestly think that's worse than somebody in a position of power E-peaning all over everybody else and telling them how much of you know big F F terms they are Yeah, you know, but not only publicly on the stream, but constantly behind the scenes. That's crazy impacting people's lives Yeah, no, yeah, I was a rap. She didn't negatively impact anybody's life Yeah, you just don't like her and that's fine. I'm not telling you to like her I'm not telling you. It wasn't a bad PR situation for Nintendo But it wasn't an upper manner. It wasn't Reggie Fesame on camera telling people to f off calling people retards and Frickin destroying the staff and threatening to fire them Okay, I'm sorry an upper management person doing that is ten times worse than your personal opinion Oh, yeah, and yeah, someone's extracurricular activities and a paper they wrote in college. Yeah Anyways, let's go on to our next topic next topic Reggie hopes the 3ds is selling four years from now The 3ds just will not die. Okay, so let me give some some background to this I didn't interview with Kotaku and they briefly talked about the 3ds because he was trying to convince basically Reggie's a master of selling He's a marketer. Okay. That's what he was doing at Pizza Hut before this. It's what he does at Nintendo He's a master of marketing so 7 to Tilo has his kids and he knows the 7 to Tilo's kids because they have an ongoing You know, they've had done number of interviews over the year an ongoing thing They talk off-camera off the record all the stuff. So he know you kids You can't remember exactly how old they are because he kept saying you know, your kids are coming up on the age for For for 3ds, you know, like we think this is an excellent platform for entry level gamers you know kids and stuff like that, you know ages like five six seven eight and And he's just like well, you know, that sounds great and everything But you know, I mean, I guess four years from now My kids could get it if you're still selling them and then he said oh, we will and then he stopped And drew himself and drew himself back a little bit and he's like we hope he was selling 3ds Okay, so bottom line is Reggie didn't want to commit that they are gonna be selling 3ds for four years because I don't think he Thinks they're really going to be selling 3ds brand new brand new But but I mean you'll still be able to find them. But yeah, yeah for sure Well, but one he did he did the whole spin cycle on how amazing the 3ds is for kids And so, you know, Stefan feels like yeah, okay, I'm gonna buy for my kids. Anyways, Gary Which yeah, I mean my kids have them there are great devices for kids Even though my son wants a switch for Christmas cuz yeah as great as it is the 3ds. He knows the switch is better Yeah, he knows oh for sure I mean the thing is he's not into the deep Japanese RPGs Which there's a ton of those in 3ds, but he's into like the Mario's and doggie Kong's and yeah tropical freezes better than dog Returns. Yeah, I mean Super Mario Odyssey come on compared to the Super Mario 3d land Not not it means that and now Super Mario Brothers you was coming out on on here And he didn't my son didn't get to play Wii U. He was like a little baby at the time. I had a Wii U so Yeah, he wants a switch and I'm just like I Kind of want you to have a switch to see you stop messing with mine My switch is physical damage on it right now because of Mike's son So I was gonna say you could always just take the new one and give the No, I can't because I know no no no no you know you can do system transfers Oh, okay. Yeah, so you can't so what I'm saying so what you're saying is I can justify buying myself the Pokemon themed you can theoretically could yes One and then just give him my old one because he's not gonna care right Switch theoretically yes Damn you forget. Sorry, you know what my kids are getting if it's not this Christmas because I can't afford it My kids are getting a 3ds sometimes you know what I'm gonna tell my son which that when he Cuz we have like a chore chart and when he when he fills up all his stars on the chore chart I'm gonna tell him you know what you're gonna get a switch and I guarantee you he is going to be the best Damn house until it happens then I'm gonna regret it. Yeah, I'm gonna be like what can I drive him with next? Hey, you want a TV in your room? All right now you need to fill this star chart, but you need to fill it triple Yeah, so it's like three years. Yeah, where's the George? Yeah, I got a TV in here. Oh boy. I mean I had a TV in my room But it was when I was a teenager. Yeah, it was not I didn't have a TV in my room until I was I was a color TV that Black and white slap it to get the color back remember that thing. Oh the old CTV Yeah, buddy was being sold a garage sale my grandma's house and I'm like, I'll buy it's like a dollar I'll take it and hey Yeah, it got through a lot of stuff. We watched a lot of TV a lot of late-night sleepovers Oh, yeah used to try my video games on it. That was a mistake. Yeah, but you know I eventually got a better TV, but not so I was I was like 16 or 17. My parents got me the I wasn't is that no, I don't have that anymore. I still have that 32 inch. I kept thinking kept thinking no I don't I don't actually have it What what did I do with that thing? Was it did they get broken? Well because when Yuli and I moved in together that was our TV Mm-hmm That was our main TV for a little while till we bought the 55 inch. Yep That was our first big purchase together as a couple with the 55 inch TV. Mm-hmm, which we still have and still use the What do we do with it? Well, then the TV moved to our bedroom Mm-hmm a 32 inch and we have a 32 inch in our bedroom now But that's not the TV because that's a that's a Roku TV that we bought When we moved in here I Think it must have broke between the move from the apartment here is what I think happened So I remember plugging it in and it just didn't work when we moved here So I think that's why I ended up buying that new 32 inches in a room because yeah Because the TV didn't work anymore because we were using a Roku stick with it That's why we bought a Roku TV because yeah, it's not it's not like I think Roku is any better than anything else It was just convenient. Right. Anyway, sure Reggie For years we hope to be selling it. I hope you're not yeah, right I hope we have hope those either a successor to it or that you finally admit that switches your future Yes handheld and home console. Hopefully by that time we have a Successor to the switch like switch to or yeah, but by then we should be talking about the next switch. That's the thing Yeah, at least talking about it for sure for sure All right, I think it's all I got for that time. I just thought it was kind of funny It'd be like it is He almost said it was going to be and he's like, oh wait No, don't don't actually commit backtrack a little bit It's the one time read probably read you that almost almost caught himself Guaranteeing something that he knows he can't guarantee right, but he actually caught us Reword that But yeah, good on Reggie master at the PR. All right. What do you have for our next topic? Topic three would be detective Pikachu the trailer that came out for it I've never been so excited for a poker in my life, right? Oh, it also helps that, you know They got Ryan Reynolds to well, I mean, yeah, it's not like Ryan Reynolds I know some people don't like it But I mean if you actually watch I think it's the detective Pikachu anime or whatever and it was only in Japan They use an even deeper voice so it sounds even weirder from that It's really bad so Ryan rose is kind of a nice in between between that and Anyways, but apparently What looks really cool to me having played detective Pikachu haven't seen the little show they had out in Japan It doesn't look like it's following it exactly which is good Yeah, it's kind of like they're basing it on it, but they're kind of creating their own story Which to me is the way that's how you adapt video games to movies right and I'm gonna be honest right now There hasn't been a great in my opinion Anyways a great video game to live action adaption of a movie yet. There's been some okay ones You may be even good. You can argue. I didn't mind the resident evil ones. I didn't mind the Tomb Raider ones Didn't think they were like anything the right home about you guys know I love the Super Mario Bros. Movie, but I mean again really a game brought to life. That's just a couple of characters brought into a Yeah, but I mean that's the thing. That's exactly what I just say based on yeah, but its own direction Definitely was what that movie no, but this that's that's a little bit more different because it's not really funneled along the Based on a like an actual first game game. Well, yeah detective Pikachu movies obviously based on the future game But right I don't know this right, okay? So let's just get into it like the reason I bring that up is because I came away after the trailer thinking that this is Gonna be critically acclaimed. This is going to be Worldwide acclaimed and this is going to be really damn popular now some people don't like to look at the Pokemon Cuz I remember these are Pokemon brought to life to make them look real, right? And I don't know what you guys actually thought Pokemon would look like in real life. Have you seen the animals out in the world, right? I don't know what you actually thought Pokemon we're gonna look like because if you ever imagined like a side duck in real life He's gonna look pretty damn crazy in the eyes because it looks crazy in the eyes in the anime It just is cutesy. Yeah, they're gonna be so cutesy in real life, right for sure Even Pikachu looks a little less cute in real life. What do you expect? It's a rat. It's a big rat What it yeah, yeah, what did you think it was gonna look like? You know my favorite I mean mr. Mime is the one that looks the most like the anime except the face Yeah, the face on mr. Mime is like not just like him doing the impressions in that scene, which is amazing He's telling you you can shove it which by the way that's not a joke that from the game That is something beyond what Nintendo? Oh, yeah, they're willing to get a little bit edgy with this movie, which is awesome But I liked it. Yeah, I really I came away impressed I mean, what was your favorite looking Pokemon in the whole show that we saw there was a lot of them And I don't remember everything go on but there were some that got some big screen time The Bulbasaur's look kind of cool when they oh, yeah, it was like water to the March. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean Pikachu looks Pretty pretty damn good. Well, yeah, I mean not not really saw the one Pikachu. Yeah, which was the main detective right, right, but um Charger looked I Don't know I could see how you could not like it, but I thought it was okay. Well, here's a cool thing You probably haven't seen it. They they had some people visiting Thus the studio where it's being made and they had four models of like real-world models made of the in-game in-game the Pokemon in the movie and It was like Pikachu, Psyduck, Charizard, and it wasn't Charizard's full body. It's just like his head and his neck And one other I can't I can't remember what it was. Maybe it was Maybe let's jigglypuff or something. Yeah, I can't remember. Anyways You look at the Charizard one because we the thing is we only really saw Charizard in the show While he was breathing fire. Yep, and with his mouth wide open So you never really got a full good look at him You just kind of got like the the background blur version of him. Yeah But after seeing that head. I'm like, yeah, that's what I think Charizard would look like all right The reason it looks so weird. I think I think initially is because we've never actually seen Charizard with scales. Yeah Like a dragon would actually have if dragons were real, all right, right some of you believe they are real Point is that they have all the scales dragons are real Yeah, just like we have never actually seen Pikachu with fur But we just know that he has fur like it's inferred that these Pokemon have fur and scales up But we don't actually see it. It's just a solid color right in the shows During the time so when you see it with real fur you see it and that's just how enemies are anyway Yeah, well, they're not gonna spend the time to draw each individual little hair That's not the way enemies are enemies are more simplistic anyways, right? No, exactly So by the way, I realized there's some highly detailed enemies out there. That's not what Pokemon is. Right. So Yeah, I thought Charizard look awesome I mean, I could the most off-putting one. It was obviously Jigglypuff Jigglypuff is ridiculous Not because I don't like it. I think it's hilarious Of course they had the Jigglypuff drawing on somebody. Yeah, of course because Good one. Jigglypuff's drawing on somebody which makes me instantly think he's drawn dicks Which which I mean, I don't know if they're gonna allow a dick joke in here But this is the perfect opportunity to allow a penis joke in Because everyone could totally believe Jigglypuff would be doing that right It was a microphone. We swear Uh-huh, uh-huh, and like you're just like cuz because here's the thing jigglypuff is often considered one of the cutest Pokemon in The game in like the game. Oh, yeah, and then you see what a jigglypuff would look like in real life And you're just like, okay, that's not cute. That's that's kind of creepy But hilarious it's totally what and I'm like, how would a jigglypuff look like in real life? It ain't gonna be all cutesy and but no no no The part where we saw it though was when it was pissed off. Oh, sure. So And then just gets passed in all yeah, well, yeah Everybody fell out of Psyduck was probably my favorite looking one One because it looked exactly like I thought Psyduck would look like and to like those eyes And then he does like that move in the woods That looks like it's just clearing down all the trees because I was at the second side last side last. Yeah side last Man it just looks and like the story, you know the guy trying to figure out You know what happened to dad and then it sort of looks like they're solving other crimes because it looked like there was also like the Trying to find Squirtle or whatever. Yeah, and from the police station or something Yeah, it just it looks looks really really good. I know some people might not be into it For some people it's a little too real. Yeah, I can see it But I mean it's a live action Pokemon movie It's supposed like the fact that you think it looks too real tells me that that's exactly right. It should be right It's it's a I'm so excited for this movie. Yeah summer next year And of course the trailer dropped the same day as Toy Story 4's tears. Yeah, just a tea just a teaser the thing Which was really funny. I'm not even that excited for Toy Story 4 I'm not like the teaser looks alright. The teaser was funny, but like it's toy story Of course, it was gonna be kind of funny, but like I Don't know the story ended perfectly in three Yeah, so four now feels like they're they're pirates of the Caribbean this thing. Yeah, and just we know it's popular Look look all well three did we got a milk it Yeah, and it's like Andy's gone now the whole it was a nice moving on story Story of growing up like we are handing our kids down to our children or our neighbors It was a perfect ending to everything and I like no, yeah, no we're back again. Yeah, we're back. It's like back again It's always stories back friend Pikachu cameo. Yeah, right? Come on. Where's the Pokemon? Yeah, right? It's Disney. Yeah, so I don't know excited. Oh, yeah, I Yeah, I saw it. I was like wait what I mean. This might be we haven't done this in a while This might be day one. I watch oh, yeah one you guys probably one of my reactions to it Yeah, and I'll probably do like a spoiler free reactions and then like a heck I might even do a review. No like a spoiler free review and then I'll do like no now We're we're spoiling the whole thing and just talking about it, right? And I'll tell you guys at the beginning of the video. Oh, yeah, obviously But man, am I pumped? Yeah. Oh, yeah, it does look like I can think I could be a 32 year old man pump for a Pokemon movie, right? I The last time I was pumped for a Pokemon movie was Pokemon the movie Yeah, the very first one with you to right right like in the story in that and like I cried But I was a kid. Yeah, and I to be honest. I went because I wanted the free Pokemon card, right? The little Japanese Pokemon Mew was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah That's the whole reason I went and then I ended up loving the movie. Well, I liked the anime back then Yeah, but that was the last time I was excited. Oh, they had all these other Pokemon movies I just ended up not caring Well, we did kind of fall but yeah, but they have like they kept following it up and I'm just like this one Hell, yeah, that's exactly what I want I know this was good because I've rewatched the trailer like four or five times just cuz I Can't believe it. It's what I imagine Pokemon Yeah, would be like in not this Pokemon go where it is still a cartoon character in the real world Yeah, now give me the real stuff. Yeah, finally. We have the real stuff Yeah, nobody can understand me peek-a-peek-a. Yeah, peek-a peek-a-peek-a-peek-a Oh Good stuff good Lord. All right. What was it was our final topic? Oh final topic would be the N64 classic is Apparently at this point not happening not happening. This is according to Reggie Feeza may Why don't you read the quotes on what he had to say about it? Of course We were clear when we did the first two classic series that for us these were limited time opportunities that were a way for us to as a business to bridge the Conclusion of the Wii U as a hardware system who wants a Nintendo switch That was very strategic reason why we launched the NES classic system So while consumers may have been anticipating something we view these as limited time opportunities We've also now been very clear that as the consumer looks forward to engaging with our classics Classic content that it's going to happen more and more with the subscription service. I Would not enter ever rule something out, but what I can tell you is that certainly is not in our planning horizon Raise your hand if you think N64 games are coming to that online service anytime soon You know no, I don't see it has NES games. There's still so on the NES classic this holiday I Agree like I think of that was there there a strategic reason when they released the NES classic because they had publicly It was very very strange by the way. They publicly announced. They were discontinuing the Wii U before switch was even announced So Nintendo's never done that before that's how much Wii U is bombing So I get that the NES classic for that holiday was definitely a strategic move for them to basically make money that holiday Right because you're not gonna buy we use because we're not doing anything for Wii U anymore Yeah, you buy 3ds. Sure, but 3ds, you know, we obviously know, you know 3ds alone was doing fine at the time. So I think One it always has to be said Reggie could just be full of it Oh, yeah, Nintendo has denied denied denied stuff in the past They denied the 3ds XL and new Nintendo 3ds were even a thing and then announced it weeks later Yeah, they said we are absolutely not making new hardware and then they announced new hardware So the thing is Nintendo's net is a company that never talks about something till they want to right so up until the point That they want to talk about something they typically deny its existence hardware wise software wise They'll be like obviously we're working on something what we do nothing to announce today Like that's different because you like hasn't that we know they're working on a new Zelda game But they're not really gonna talk about it, right? So I Don't think this means that we're not getting an n64 classic next year It just could mean that I don't want to talk about it, but let's say that it does mean we're not I think the interesting part and this is the second time now Reggie has referenced the fact that The Nintendo switch online service is basically supposed to be the new virtual console He didn't say that in so many words, but he's but he said the reason we're not gonna do it is because We're gonna be expanding our we're gonna be delivering retro games through our tennis which online service Only currently has confirmed to be serving NES right SNES is assumed, but we don't have confirmation right and even then The weird thing is that hasn't stopped them from selling NES and SNES classics when those are the ones that are going to be coming to the Platform first right that so it makes no sense to me. The logic Reggie is using Especially when he's like for the NES classic fine. I get that strategic. What about the SNES classic? You knew you were gonna be offering those games and then those which online service So how does the SNES classic fit into it? I was just be honest you knew what would make money, right? Why are you gonna do an N64 classic next year even though you're denying it? You know it's gonna make money, right? You're not gonna not give people what they want right now when you know You're gonna make massives and you could sell for a hundred bucks a pop like a PlayStation classic and sell millions upon millions On millions of them. They're gonna do it and 64 games are not touching the Nintendo switch anytime in the next Maybe even three years and now Nintendo can prove me wrong, of course They want next year by next summer. Maybe at E3 there are huge announcement If they don't have any new big games to announce, you know, it's just games. You already know about they talk about Maybe they're big announcement is yeah by by this holiday You can get GameCube, which would be huge never been done on Virtual Console yet You can get N64 and SNES and everything by holiday on this platform Just based on how they're handling it now with NES games Does anyone really think that's the thing? I? Can't assume it's gonna happen until they prove it right when they released Virtual Console in the past They never just started with NES they gave us a selection of popular games from these particular systems And then they expanded upon those games weekly by the way not just three a month for one console So I don't know yeah Yeah I mean the idea especially now that it like the one nice thing with the online service is to put these games online Which means like if they could find they're not going to be able to do it But if they could just get all the rights holders together to get gold and I back out You're right through the Nintendo switch online service Yeah, that would almost justify the answer was to me because now you could tell me I could play that multiplayer online Yeah, oh, baby, right? Oh, baby. You guys know where happens of gold night tournaments Yeah, but the only problem is isn't that a rare game? Yeah, but they don't know what they don't really own the rights there the right the reason that the game has never been Released isn't because of rare. It's not like a rare owned IP. It's James Bond Yeah, so there's a group that owns the bond thing but rare has a claim Nintendo has a claim to Nintendo published it right Okay, so Nintendo has a claim the people who own the 007 license And none of them have been able to come together to agree to be able to re-release it So it was remade later on we which it was an all right game, but it wasn't the same thing, right? so I Don't know I I wanted in 64 classic. Oh, so do I it's a big part of my childhood Especially if they can make an agreement with Microsoft which Microsoft might be more willing to than you realize Oh, yeah to put rare games on there. Yeah, because they won they would get a chunk of every sale of it Not that Nintendo wants to give them a chunk Maybe that's the reason they won't do it is because you can't release an n64 classic without rare games You just can't right then again apparently you can release a PlayStation classic without Crash Bandicoot Wait, what yeah the mascot of the PlayStation one at the time. Yeah, right not on the system Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, holy cow And the thing is I didn't play PlayStation back then, but yeah, even I knew Crash Bandicoot was a big deal Yeah, and nope Not on the place. I mean to me. That's like releasing the the n64 classic without Super Mario. Yeah, right 64 Yeah, how you can't right you can't there are certain games. You can't release an n64 classic without ocarina of time Yep, Super Mario 64. Yep Star Fox 64. Yep Mario Kart and smash. Yep, that's that's like the five huge instruments that you can argue Majora's mask and stuff Well, I Would love to say snowboard kids and stuff like that But those are the ones that I think would be might not be included But then Banjo-Kazooie. Oh, yeah, I could see where they could justify leaving off Conker You could argue Conker. Yeah, but you can argue that Conker is big But it wasn't as it wasn't super super popular Banjo-Kazooie was almost Mario levels, right? So Banjo-Kazooie would have to be there Diddy Kong racing Yeah, probably if they're gonna put another race around anyway, right? I would argue quarterback club 98 Just because I want just because I want that breath fire of quarterback club. Yeah, right, right with the glitch But yeah, I wasn't at 99. You know, I don't know. I want you to one of you in 98. I don't know. Yeah, 99 I think was the one that was yeah, man. Oh man. I don't right, but but yeah It's I mean me try me even trying to whittle it down to just like 20 games is like Yeah, I don't know if I can yeah, right. There's so many good games Yeah, well, it's a good thing you can hopefully Well, that's the thing he he keeps hinting that we're gonna be able to get all these games on switch But without actually saying that we're going to get them on right. He's like, oh, we're gonna deliver a classic game Okay, we're talking about the n64. So The question is are you going to deliver n64 games through the Nintendo Switch Online service? Right? Yes or no, and he's never gonna say anything about right It's just saying we have plans of that. He's just he's not even he's even even argued a plans They just said yeah, we're not doing it because we don't believe in delivering our classic games through switch Which was a cop-out answer. I mean, they could just be they could be planning to release in 64 Right, which you would assume that's what he's referencing, but that's the thing He didn't commit Nintendo to anything right other than we're not going to do it Which again, they do say that all the time right before they're about to do something You can one can argue That's a damn move a good move on his part to not commit to anything I know, but then it also gets people's hopes up. I and I really just like it did last year three when he said the Nintendo Switch Online service is their virtual console replacement At the same time that it's doing things way worse than the virtual console ever did right So, I don't know it's And that's probably why he learned to not actually Try to get people excited for it. Right, right. Don't over promise because we're going to under deliver right, right He was probably told that exact thing You're right, right? Oh goodness gracious Um, besides the games. I mean, is there any other game like let's just say the n64 classic arrives Anyways, let's just assume that he's just talking about like Nintendo has done before because they don't want to announce it yet What are your You know what I'm putting you on the spot because this is this is writing your wheels and 64 is your wheelhouse, baby When it comes to Nintendo, there's anything I could talk to the sky about it's NES And n64 for sure those two systems you were heavy on you were gay boys. Well, but yeah, you know, we we don't really had a conversation about gay boys stuff Future future ideas we actually should talk about and send those handhelds. Yeah. Um, anyways Give me 10 games you think are absolutes that would have to be on Not just one do you want but like once you're like, you know, I the importance popularity Yeah, has to be. Yeah Give me 10. Obviously you have to start with Mario 64. Sure Mario card Um smash Um Gold knife has to be on there Has to that's such a tough one. No, and I know and that's the thing that's a tough one Um, and if they can't get that then you would figure has to be perfect dark, right? Yep, but some people think it's a better game But gold and I was the was that more popular more popular, right? Um, right. The one did the one nice thing I do like about Perfect dark was you could play against bots. Yeah, that was that was the nice thing about that. Um It's like you can in time splitters, but I don't think well, I don't think that was on n64 was it? No, I think it was game cube That was game cube. Yeah I mean The thing is is I know I would want banjo-kazooie. Yeah, I don't I'm sure that would be one of those that has to be on there But you could argue. I guess it not being Well, you could argue the reasons it won't be is because the Nintendo doesn't have any rights to it, right? But they have third-party games on there all the time on their classic systems, right? Right. So the question is would a Microsoft be willing to do and it's an ip microsoft's doing nothing with Right. No for sure That we know of well, yeah, right. Um, so I'll throw it on there. I mean, I even said that that had to be Like you can't it was like the second most popular platform around the whole freaking system How can you not have that there for sure for sure? Um It's popular enough to have banjo-kazooie and then followed up by nuts and bolts, which ended up not being good Anyways, yeah, that's five god I mean, I'd personally say snowboard kids is there, but again, you can't you can argue that Nintendo owns all the rights to it though who knows about it. They do own all the rights to it So they could put it on there. They don't have to talk to anyone else about it. Yeah, um I'll give you that that's one that we really want but it doesn't necessarily mean it's right, right Um, god, there's one big one you've already forgot about Of course that I mentioned earlier. Of course. I did. What was I doing for 20 years of my life? For a quarterback club No, um, oh zelda. Yeah Okay, no time. Yes, so I'm like, I'm gonna give you I'm not much of a I'm not much of a I know I know, but you but you know that It's not one rating game all the time. Yeah, I get you I get you No, I Again, it's one of those things that I'm trying to think of games that I've played and all of a sense like oh wait Yeah, yeah, I kind of forget that, you know, did you say star fox? No, I did not star fox does definitely need to be on there And I think it was every release and it's obviously an important game for the series Great, and it actually won't oh wait. No, that was on the so we're up to eight that was on the uh That was on the star fox assault. Yeah. Yeah, that was on the game. You know, I was also thinking of star fox too But that was on the no that was on the that was on the SNES Yes, um, and that was also star fox 64. That was on the star on the 64 not star fox. Yeah, right. Yeah, um What am I at eight yet eight? Okay There's one that I personally want another like shadow shadow gate 64 that have no shot right no shot God I mean you could if you You could argue I like you said diddy kong if you wanted to put another racing on there, but I don't know if they would One if they do it'll be a Was there there wasn't f0 on there wasn't there? F3 gx no gx. I think that was I think that was uh game q. I don't think it was as good though No, it not as well remembered as the last one right as the original Yeah, they probably would diddy cotton racing on before and while that was made by rare just like donkown country Nintendo owns all the rights to it right um Well, you could say a donkey kong country Or donkey kong 64. I mean don't yeah, that's the one. Yep 64 that's a good one. So so count that is nine one more Yeah, don't go in 64 has got to be there don't killings like one of the og ip's right right um, that would make sense to have that there Oh, good god, why am I Drawing blanks that are you going to get your phone to look up? Oh boy This is where you're like well the library must not have been that good. Oh, no, it's it is it is I'm just for some I mean, I don't know what I would throw on I think and again But again, it's one of those things that we're trying to figure out what would have to I mean There's going to be more than 10 games all the way. This is just a 10 that we think are absolute for the most part Like I can tell you right now My my 10th one would have been majority's mask right Because if they have all career time on there, they must have the sequel But then you can argue if they have banjo kazooie should they have banjo tooie? Oh, you could argue a paper mario Ah thousand you door Wait, no, yeah, was that part paper mario Just paper mario no that yeah n64 paper mario I don't think you're actually poke one of the pokemon games Well, yeah, it was just the og paper mario. I bet you paper mario would be on there and we can argue Pokemon stadium But the problem is it that be that you have to have it would have to functionally work Right like let's go or something right right to still be viable today That's the one problem like pokemon stadium. I think it would be awesome or coliseum, but you Was that game cube coliseum out of a game cube? Okay mario tennis mario golf Although that was more game boy well the ones that were really good right right right game game Strikers soccer that was that was we that was game cube cube. Yes cube and we um, I mean Talkers bed for today. You can make the argument both ways. I would want it, but Give me that pissing drunk squirrel right now, right? It's it's really funny like the first how many of them that I scroll across We all we all mentioned we mentioned. Yeah except for pokemon snap. Yeah. Yeah snap um Yeah f0x. Yes gx was good game. Yes. Yeah, okay Oh one of the mario party one of the og mario party one of the mario party. They have like four of them on there Um Banjo 2 as via banjo-kazooie It feels like you would if they're gonna work out the rights to get banjo-kazooie on there You gotta figure they can put the sequel right, you know just like just like ocarina time Just gonna put the sequel and then get the rights to Oh, you know, we forgot. I just What how could we forget? That's the other racing. I wasn't a much of a wavering. I know but that's the other racing game They could have put on the wavering 64. Yeah, you didn't oh, maybe it was just me that played a lot of game boy with wavering It's funny because the game boy game is really just like a lot of those flash games out there now No, no, that's the other one that the half to get on there. What rogue squadron? Yes, that would be another half That disney owns everything for it. I know but that doesn't mean that they couldn't theoretically It's just how many how many places do you want to split your profit? Oh squadron. Yeah I want that way more than star fox. Yeah, right Yeah, plus it helps you play star fox already on 3ds like the the room the 3d star fox 3d version Yeah, 64 3d or whatever. Yeah, so I don't know man. Those are some so many good games Yes, there is all right. I think that's good Do you guys let me know what you guys would like to see on an n64 classic or I guess the first n64 games that might be on the Nintendo Switch online service Maybe When they sell us those n64 controllers that we could throw on the side of our switch For like a hundred bucks. That's gonna be awkward as hell. No, no, no, no, they'll make that one a pro controller No, they won't Because it's got to be exclusive It's got to be exclusive to Nintendo Switch online users That's how they're selling the NES ones. That's how they're going to sell the SNES ones No, no, no, no, they'll sell it as an exclusive pro controller, but it doesn't have enough buttons to be a pro controller There's only one stick Doesn't have enough triggers What an n64 controller can't be a pro controller No, I'm saying they'll they'll bring back the old controller as And use the same connection wireless connection. Oh, you said it'll be wireless. Yeah, yeah, the NES ones are wireless Of course, the pro controller Yeah, like a sold as as a quote unquote pro controller I don't understand what you're so you don't have to freaking clip it on the side No, they'll have you clip it on the side You know, it's funny. That's that's gonna be weird as hell. It's weird as hell already with the NES ones No, that makes more that does make sense though. How does it make sense because they do kind of look like joycons No, they don't they look nothing like joycons They look like they look like this. I know here's your phone That's what it looks like. Yeah, that that I'm sorry. They don't Yes, they slide on the switch and they extend past the top and bottom of the switch Sure, I don't know. I guess I mean, it's not that extreme, of course But yeah, it does not look like the joy the joycons are flush and clean and sleek and complete the roundness of it That's not what the NES controllers do and they look awkward because all the buttons are facing the wrong way So you can't even use it like that No, and the funny thing is people have already photoshopped with the n64 ones Oh, okay, you know with the three prongs and it's just like man, it's almost like a weapon you throw it on you pick it up Yeah, right Well, I think it was like a weapon to begin with I mean technically the NES controllers the og with the cords I remember swinging those things around. Those were definitely weapons. I caused some gashes with those bad boys Do anyone want to tell you those edges weren't sharp? No, not like sharp to the touch But sharp enough that if you whip it at someone you can cut them open. Yeah, oh man Oh, man memories. All right You guys let me know About your ideal lineup. Let's go. You know what? Let's go 20 games deep. We went through about 10 to 12 ish Let's go. You guys give us like a 20 game list, which is probably the probably how many games they would put on a n64 classic Or what 20 games you would like to see them launch, you know, it could be either or what you want to see in the Class or what 20 n64 games you would like to see them launch an n64 from the tennis switch online One of the 20 games you feel are the quintessential have to be their day one when they do anything with the n64 What regardless of copyright and also just tell me what you think is like for me golden eyes an essential one That's going to be probably the most difficult one because I think microsoft and nintendo are a little more buddy buddy Today than they once were which tells me like they were willing to let banjo be in smash if nintendo really wanted to do it So I think they would actually feel Spencer might be cool Like you know what it is part of your your your history Um, you know just give us a buck perp system. So yeah to put it on there, right? Yeah Heck I think they should just partner with nintendo and let nintendo make another banjo-kazooie game And just have microsoft, you know be the publisher or whatever and get all the publishing money But yeah, that's just that's just my take because microsoft's not doing anything with the freaking ip anyways Yeah, right. So I mean mazel or or maybe I mean they could just go to the you know play tonic who made ukulele and just Hey instead of trying to make what you used to Actually make it. Yeah, here you go. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, but uh, so as microsoft hasn't bought them up You know microsoft buying up everyone right now Microsoft's coming hard with the exclusives this next gen This is going to be crazy because playstation already gets a lot of exclusives Obviously nintendo is like the king of the mountain with exclusives Now microsoft's gonna be bringing it this next gen is going to be nuts for exclusives And you told me about Okay console exclusive. All right. Yeah, come on. 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