 Hi, this is your host, Apnil Bhartiya and welcome to the 2023 protection series. And today we have with us once again, Aarif Khan, founder and CEO of Courage. Aarif, it's good to have you on the show. Thank you, Sapnel. And yes, first of all, happy new year. Happy new year to you as well. Now, of course, I'm going to ask you to grab your crystal ball and share your predictions. But before that, what is Courage all about? We want to accelerate the edge movement. An edge movement when I say that there are a lot of future use cases and, of course, when we started, it was future. But those edge cases is now happening now, be it in telecom, be it in utility, energy, all this transformation is happening today. And with accelerating those innovation, accelerating these use cases, we are working from the tech side of it. Now it's time for you to pick your crystal ball and tell us what predictions you have for us. I want to start with, of course, the trends, what's going on in the world and my prediction is pretty much around those trends. So I will give my prediction, but of course I will a little bit talk around the trends what we are seeing. So the first prediction is around the sovereignty. And we all know that the current geopolitical situation, especially what happened with Ukraine and Russia and the impact of tech companies and the dependency. So now everybody, every government, every big enterprises, they are looking sovereignty with the different glasses. If we talk about maybe one year or two years back, people were happy that if the data is in their country, they are good. But now people are taking sovereignty much more seriously and taking it to the next level, whether those data which are there in their country, even that is usable. And I can clearly see a lot of policy making is happening across the globe. EU is investing heavily on this. India is working very hard on that everywhere, Japan. So sovereignty will be one of the, even as a market, as from the business side also, it will evolve as one of the opportunity which ecosystem can leverage. But sovereignty is just not about the data. So first of all, sovereignty is a freedom. So now people and policy makers are seeing how they can be operational sovereignty, even from the software side, how they can be. Because their roadmap, their progress cannot be dependent on a company, other company roadmap, which is very, very far. So, and of course to enable these sovereignty, Soviet and cloud is going to be the first thing which is going to enable these use cases. Again, Soviet and cloud is not just restricted to the public cloud opportunity. Even the sovereignty from the network, edge, everything will come into the play. So the first prediction is there will be huge market focus and even from the policy and big enterprises around the Soviet and cloud. So that we will see. Second prediction is also dependent on the trends which we have already seen. So people started their cloud journey a few years back and they were happy, but then suddenly they realized that some of these cool features are coming from one vendors and some features are coming from other vendors, even the top CIOs, they don't want to put their all eggs in one basket. So a lot of adoption happened last year around the multi-cloud strategy. And even if you speak to the top 100 CIOs across the world, multi-cloud was pretty much on their top charter. So, but 2023 is the year because now we are seeing the impact globally how the economy is turning around and managing this multi-cloud is not easy to have so many skilled resources with different technology, with different CICD processes. It's very, very expensive. So 2023, I think will be the year where enterprise, telcos and all big companies will be looking on multi-cloud management is one of the key production. And that's I'm sure we will be seeing seeing a lot of traction. And third but not, yeah, third prediction is the last prediction which I want to do. And when I did the session with you last year we talked about 5G, we talked about these future use cases which is whether it is augmented reality or drones or whatever these use cases. So I think now with a 5G rollout across the globe be it in US, European Union, and even in India, we can see this rollout is happening. And that's actually enabling these use cases. So 2023, I will clearly see that the initial deployment of these future edge-enabled use cases across the industry will start to roll out. And yeah, that was my third prediction. It will start coming into production. Thanks for sharing these predictions with us. If I ask you what is going to be the focus of the company this year? When I started the whole single line tagline we used was accelerating the edge movement. So from the company side of it, we actually want to part of this whole transformation which is happening. And we are lucky that this transformation is happening in front of us right now. So we will continue to work on the tech which is enabling this transformation. And I think we will continue doing that. You did touch upon that when you're sharing your predictions but I do want to have a kind of summarized view is what are the challenges that you see will be there in 2023 and how you feel that courage will be positioned to help some of your customers to kind of navigate through these challenges. So, Swapnil, there are two aspects of this answer which I want to take. First, when I gave my first prediction we talk about the geopolitical situation. And I clearly see this geopolitical situation will play a major role. It will get the worst or even improve, I don't know. But it has an impact overall as a challenge because it's creating the kind of untrust in the ecosystem and how do we handle these? So that's one of the challenge which I'm clearly seeing and it's also impacting the tech ecosystem as well. But second is the whole world we are already seeing is going from the downturn in the whole economic scenario which we are seeing and kind of layoffs news which we are seeing everywhere. So I feel that every enterprise has a pressure to optimize cost. And I think cloud DevOps, cloud native, these are the technology which will help companies to optimize their costs to best deliver the same value with the less money they are going to spend. And as you know that we are working pretty much around this whole edge story, whole cloud native story. So that way we feel within a courage that we are going to deliver a value from our tech, from our services that will make them cost optimized in their offering and that we'll continue to do. Arif, thank you so much for taking time out today and of course share these predictions, the challenges that are there and how core edge is well positioned to help customers. And I would love to have you back on the show. Thank you. Thank you, Satnil.