 Ms. Gupta, why do you wish to join the civil service? So actually, while I was in college in my fourth year, so I was working on some project called Negotiation for Visually Impaired People. And during that project, I realized that despite I using my computer skills over there, there were many other challenges. For example, the affordability or the accessibility or the ability to understand such mobile applications. And I think it was at that moment that I realized that I wanted to cater to the spider's scope of the problems. And I thought civil services offered me a way to do so. So what qualities do you possess? It should make you a good civil servant. So first, I think civil servant must have a leadership quality. So this would be the one. The second would be. And what are those qualities, leadership qualities? In the leadership, sir. So the first would be to take everybody along with you, despite having some maybe divergence in the group. So you come at a medieval, I mean the medium path, or you somehow come at a consensus. So that would be the first thing. The second would be to address each and everyone's grievances in that group. And so that no one feels alienated from the group. And everybody gives their best potential in that work. If you are in the police. Yes, sir. Now, if you're looking for a consensus and addressing everyone's grievances, nothing will get done. Yes, sir. Half the fellows don't want to work on holidays. They like to go home. But you have a duty to perform. You have to do policing. When others are enjoying, you have to do policing. So if you're seeking consensus, or even as a dean, there's a flood. Or there's an earthquake. And if you're seeking consensus, then you will only go on seeking consensus, and you will not be able to achieve anything. So consensus is not a quality, which is of such a great importance here. Think of something as basic. Yes, sir. If I may add over here, as you also said, my first thing would also be to do something which they can consider as a role model. For example, as you gave the example, that first of all, I am letting go of my holidays. I am participating in that flooded state, and I am giving my best over there. So I think that will be also one of the things that you would see up to. Ms. Gupta, have you heard of this Right to Information Act? Yes, sir. What are the salient features of this act? Yes, sir. So Right to Information Act gives the basic right to information to each and every citizen of India. It provides that if you want to access some information, which definitely there are some restrictions also, say that information does not fall in that, you can access that within a given time limit. And if the information is not provided to you, then you also have some appeal mechanisms for the same. What are the appeal mechanisms? Yes, sir. For example, there is now starting a mechanism also. And then you can also submit your application at the office also. But the purpose of the act was to bring about greater transparency and openness in the government functioning. Do you think that this has been achieved by this act? Sir, to a large extent, yes. Because people are accessing it for very good information. For example, I existed to know about what is the strength of Curls at IIT Delhi. And I think it's a very useful insight for a person like me. You get a response? Sir, I do get a response. But I was also told that there are, because at the time there was ongoing proposals on reservation for women at IIT Delhi. So I was told that some of the information is restricted, and you won't be able to access it. So did you file an appeal like that or not? No, sir. So because I thought that it is a genuine restriction, because the proposal was ongoing. So I shouldn't be asking that information, which is critical at this point of the time. Now what are the, are there any exemptions given to certain organizations under the Right to Information Act? Sir, I feel, yes. For example, the organizations that are concerned with the national security. For example, Intelligence Bureau. For example, National Investigating Agency. So a common citizen does not, cannot, I would say, access that information, which is very critical for them. Let me ask you a question. Yes, sir. Some time back, an RTI was filed with the CBI, seeking to know the amount of money which the organization has spent on their efforts to extradite Vijay Malia. OK, sir. And this was refused by the CBI. You think that was a correct decision? Or should this information have been given? Sir, according to me, though I'm not aware of this news information, but based on what you tell me, I think there might be reasons given why this information was not given. And if we can judge that those reasons were good enough, then I can guess there can be some restrictions. Oh, right. Now let's come to something else. Yes, sir. You know, this local issue has been pending for a very long time. Yes, sir. What exactly is the, should be the constitution of the Lokpal? Sir, Lokpal would consist of, first of all, the prime minister of India. The second would be the leader of opposition. Yes. I'm sorry, I'm not able to recall that. Speaker, speaker. Speaker, yes. And then? Then I think chief justice of India. Very true. And an eminent jurist. Eminent. And a jurist. So has that been done yet? Has any progress been made or not? No, sir. Sir, because 2014 Lok Sabha, there is an issue about the leader of opposition place because that does not qualify into the 10% criteria. So that is why Lokpal has not been constituted yet. But the Supreme Court had asked the government as to what is the progress. Yes, sir. And the government has been inviting the leader of the opposition. Yes, sir. But he has not been attending those meetings. OK, sir. Sir, I'm sorry. I'm not aware of it. You're not aware? Yes, sir. Right. Now there's a dispute going on between China and Canada at the moment. Over the arrest and detention of a member, are you aware of that? Yes, sir. I think I know some details, but I'm not sure about it. What exactly do you know about it? Sir, that one of the members, person of China, I think China was arrested in Canada. I'm not sure, sir. You check up on that. Because this is a very major diplomatic route which is building up. Yes, sir. Because the girl who has been arrested is the chief financial officer of Hawaii and the daughter of the owner of the Hawaii industry, right? And Canada is holding her on behalf of the US, where she's to be extradited. OK, OK. Now, are we also trying to extradite somebody? Yes, sir. From the US? Yes. From the US. From the UK, sir, I know Mr. Vijay Madhya. That is Vijay Madhya. Yes, sir. That his case is pending in the court. He's filed an appeal there, right? Yes, sir. There is a person whom we are seeking now from the US. Have you heard of a person called Taghavur Rana? No, sir. I'm not aware of him. Right. What do you feel about the Sabri Malay issue, the decision made by the Supreme Court? Because it's led to a lot of controversy in the state also. What is your view? So I think my view is that this decision that was taken by the Supreme Court is a very progressive view. And it actually puts women at front with the men's right. So in that context, this is definitely a very right statement. Thank you. Yes. You're involved with the National Service team. Yes, sir. In what capacity? Sir, so when you enter IIT Delhi, you have to complete certain credits either in NSS, NSO, or NCC. What is the basic vote of creation of NSS? So the vote of NSS says that, be the change you wish to see in the world. So it is meant to do the social service. For example, teaching slum children, teaching people at National Association of Blind, cleanliness tribes, cloth collection tribes. It has also a partnership with NGOs like Goonch, Aina, which help other people. OK. You are also playing badminton? Yes, sir. Badminton has come of age in India? I'm sorry, sir. Will you agree if I say that badminton has come of age in India? It has achieved a certain degree of success? Yes, sir. And especially in the recent times, I would definitely agree to your statement. And how do you say that? Sir, because we recently have players like Saina, Neval, Peeve, Sandoor, Watsameer, Verma, has won many medals. And they are excelling at this field. What has contributed to this increased participation of the general population in badminton? Yes, sir. So the first is the availability of training. For example, in Bangalore, the training center that is opened by Pulela Co-Pigeon is very famous. And actually, the Saina, Neval, Peeve, Sandoor actually product of badminton training center. Corporate funding has also come? Yes, sir. Many corporates are involved in promoting badminton. OK, now a different question. Yes, sir. You have heard of subsidy targeting? Subsidy targeting. Has any effort been made by the government to target subsidies, delivery of subsidies? Yes, sir. So for example, direct benefit transfer is a step in which we are targeting subsidies. In which particular subsidy has been targeted? So for example, sir, give me a few moments. Sure. Yes, sir. So the Pahel scheme, which is meant for LPG subsidies, so it is provided under DBT nowadays. Are there any attempt to include more subsidies in the group of targeting? Yes, sir. Engineering is also being provided through DBT. But I believe. I mean, another is not a subsidy. Sir, I'm sorry. I'm for using the word subsidy. I mean the wages that are provided under engineering are provided through DBT. Now what are the main subsidies given by the central government? Yes, sir. There are fertilizer subsidies that are given to the farmers. Then there are subsidies in the term of the food products that are given at PDAs, fashion shops. As far as fertilizer is concerned, any attempt made by the government to target? Sir, yes, sir. So basically, fertilizer subsidies nowadays are provided to the fertilizer companies directly, rather than the farmers. This is done to somehow restrict the divergence of the fertilizers. Last question. Yes, sir. Your second and third preference should be an income tax and cost comes from that. Yes, sir. Now post-GST has the role of income tax service and also the costumers that will exercise undergone any change? Sir, I think definitely with the economic reforms coming into the country, these services are also witnessing those reforms. So these services have a very large hand in handling those reforms and ensuring that these reforms reach each and every individual of the country. What has been the trend of direct tax and indirect tax collection in the current year? Sir, the percentage wise? No, what has been the trend? Trend growth. OK, sir. OK, sir. Sir, the direct taxes as well as the indirect taxes has been on the rise in the country. But are there any shortfalls over what was the research in the budget? Sir, recently there was a shortfall in the GST collection as it was in research to the budget. OK, thank you. You were given a board regarding research. What was your research about? Well, my research was on finding codes of a given song. So there was an application about it. But I have to improve its efficiency using the probabilistic graphical models. So will you be able to prove something? Yes, ma'am. I have improved efficiency from 30% to 79%. And you also practice meditation? Yes, ma'am. So how do you do it? Do you say a mantra or what do you do? Ma'am, my form of meditation is mindfulness meditation. What does it mean? Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, in this meditation I focus on my breath for 10 to 15 minutes. So in case any irrational thoughts are coming in without any judgment, I try to do away with them and focus on my breath again. So you learnt it on your own or you asked some teacher to teach you? Ma'am, actually there's a funny story about it. One of my teachers started this practice of teaching us meditation to keep the students silent. So for the first 10 minutes of the class, there is a very hustle in the class. OK, I'll get it. But so you've written teaching is a hobby or an area of interest. So what did you teach? Ma'am, I've taught and I'm teaching since my ninth class. So at that time I taught my neighbor's students and my helper's children. At IIT Delhi, I taught for people at National Association of Blind and also the slum children. And are you aware of what is known as contractual teaching? Ma'am, are you talking about the teachers? The university, they are talking about contractual teaching. I'm sorry. Giving a contract to teachers for one year at a time. Have you heard about that story? I'm sorry, ma'am, I'm not aware of it in this context. All right, never mind. Now, you've also been interested in training these students. You've heard about the Swachh Bharat program. Tell me something about it. Ma'am, it's a pan-India campaign that was focused on education and educational cleanliness in the country and also with the cleaning of rivers, also handling the open defecation in the country. And also it has actually widened its scope also. For example, doing the work with the corruption has also been now thought that it is a problem. Thought of cleaning of the rivers. So how are the rivers going to be cleaned under this Swachh Bharat program? Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, the first step, I think, is to ensure that there is no extra waste that is now put into the rivers. For example, the industry. So what do they do? How will they do it? Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, I think the owners should be on the industries in their case that they ensure a waste disposal system, especially with the technologies coming in. I think there is definitely an area where you can convert that waste into either a useful thing like energy, or there is a proper way to dispose that waste. So STPs are required. Basically, sewage treatment. Yes, ma'am. Yes. What else? Ma'am, second is developing the culture of sanitation among the common public, because most of the times they are also involved in throwing their waste in the rivers. The third, I would say, is cleaning the current rivers, whatever the waste or beauty levels is present at that rivers. So we do have some technologies. So how successful has this program been from the day of implementation? Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, it has been around four years since this scheme. I would say definitely there has been some progress. We all have incorporated it in our behavioral aspects or to some level. But I would also say there is a lot more to do. Do you think there's a change in attitude? Ma'am, I think there is, because it fills a new kind of energy in you when you're here in Swachh Bharata Bihar. And you actually focus on that. You are from Delhi. Ma'am, I stated. You are from Punjab, but you are working in Delhi? Or you studied in Delhi? Ma'am, I studied in IIT Delhi, and that is when I stayed in Delhi. So you are from Punjab. Suppose you became an administrator and were a NALA, what issues would you address first of all? Give me two main issues which you would like to address. Ma'am, the first issue that I address is the employment in the women, because the ratio in, especially because it's a very small district, is one is to six people who are working. Only one is the female. What type of jobs are there? Ma'am, the only industry in Bernala is the pride and group of industries. So my focus will also be to ensure that more industries come into the town. And also, especially since the nearby areas of Bernala are agriculture dominating areas. So ensuring there are men to do jobs available in that sector with the help of elite sectors like poultry, animal husbandry, et cetera. That's it. Now my last question, related to your field that is computer science, one here's a big data field. What is big data? Ma'am, big data is basically defined by three ways, the volume, variety, and velocity. When you get a large amount of data, which is a huge variety in it, and it comes with a huge speed to you, then it's termed as a big data. What are the advantages? Yes, ma'am. Ma'am, I would give an example here. For example, Google, when we search something, it is accessing all our searches. It is checking what we searched, when we searched, where are we located. So it is all a big data to Google. So next time when we search something, there are some recommendations coming in. So we are at ease as a consumer. And Google, using that big data, is ensuring that we get proper customer services. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Can you tell us, what are these fundamental duties? Are they impossible? Can you recall some of the duties? Yes, sir. So fundamental duties are not impossible under any law. But some of the fundamental duties are first of all, I would say, to preserve the heritage of India in the terms of monuments. The second would be to respect the national flag, national anthem, and the constitution of India. The third would be the parents duty to send their children of six to 14 years to schools. The fourth would be the annual midge. There is one duty to develop scientific temper. Yes, sir. What is scientific temper and how does that help? Yes, sir. So I believe there are certain values that are associated with scientific temper. For example, objectivity, rationality, using logic. So scientific temperament in general is developed when you read science subjects, like beat mathematics, physics, chemistry, medical science. In general, it is developed in that way, in the formal education system. However, there are also ways in which you can develop that informal education system also. Those with arts background, they do not have science. Definitely, sir. They do. I'm sorry. I missed that point. Social studies science is also a kind of a science. OK. There was a spurt in this me too movement. Why do you think it came up all of a sudden? Was there a gap in law, vacuum in law, why did people take to the social media rather than taking to legal cause? Yes, sir. So I think I will agree to you here that though the movement started with the very right intentions of showing how in depth the problem of sexual harassment is, however, it is actually a spill out of the lack of our legal systems. Because I believe social media is not a correct platform for the women to understand their grievances as well as for the institutions to hear their grievances. So I feel, as you said, that me too is a result of a lack of our legal systems. Is there any institutional mechanism to deal with sexual harassment at workplaces? Yes, sir. So there is a sexual harassment at workplaces app in which the internal complaints committee, she-box also, are created where women can complain about it and ensure that the grievances are voted. OK. Can there was a supling for judgment on triple the law? Are you aware of that? Yes. What was the judgment? Yes, sir. So the Shahira Banu judgment that you're talking about talks about that the triple the law, which is given to especially to Muslim women, is actually against their own rights. It marginalizes them. It is basically a question on their rights. What was the finding on triple the law? So it was found that triple the law is not an essential practice under the religion of Islam. And thus, it cannot be classified that so it can be abolished as it encroaches upon rights of the women. So the government abolition or they abolish it all the way up? So first the Supreme Court judgment then the government is also passing an act on it. I'm sorry sir, I'm not aware of the name of that act. No, actually, there are two different things. They say that it is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has, the law is the ordinance. It is for criminalization of triple the law. Yes, sir. Have you heard about this adultery controversy? Yes, sir. And what happened to that? Yes, sir. So section 497 of IPC talks about adultery where a husband can actually complain about another man who has indulged into sexual activities with her wife. So in this, it was found that the collapse of this section was that women was considered as the property of the husband. And the woman does not have the right to complain in such a case against her husband. So thus, the adultery was abolished by the Supreme Court. By the Supreme Court? Yes, it was. Yeah, it is no longer an offense. Sir, what is it? It's a civil offense. It's no longer a criminal offense. What is civil offense? These are two diametrically opposed to civil and offense. What is civil offense? How is adultery a civil offense? Sir, I would say Supreme Court said that adultery can be used as a ground for asking for a divorce. It was, yes. So can you tell us what is the mechanism to protect human rights in this country? Yes, sir. So first, I would say there are laws. There are institutions like the State Court, High Court, Supreme Court, that are there. The second would be also the National Human Rights Commission, which takes such cases on either summa databases or either when someone complains. The third would be the PIL, also is one of the bases on which human rights complaints can be put forward. The fourth, I think the parliament, the institution of tempracy itself is there to protect our human rights. One current, there was this thing in news, Supreme Court order on concerning human rights. Last few days, there was something in news. Can you recall that? Sir, can I recall it for a few seconds? Is it related to the encounters or that is done by the? Actually, section 30 of the Protection of Human Rights Act calls for human rights coating of the district, which has not been set up. Thank you, sir. Well, we close your interview. I'll give you a little feedback. Is this your first attempt? First, it's my second attempt, but the first interview. First thing, I would like to say that you performed very well. You've been able to handle most of the questions very nicely. So, which means you're very informed and you can approach a subject in an analytical manner. Your personality is good, your voice, your language, everything is good. And there is just one thing I'd like to suggest to you when I asked you a question about why the civil service. So you went on a pretty long explanation. Yes, sir. And then when you were asked about meditation, then you said, and you were asked whether you have done it yourself or through the help of some trainer. So you said, no, there's a funny story and you were cut short. This is an interview just about 25, 30 minutes. You cannot give stories or you cannot give a long explanation. You must cut it out completely. And so that is my advice to you, that you cannot... There's no scope for any long discursive explanation. So in civil service also, the best thing for you will be to say that number one, it provides an excellent career. Because these are the highest civil services. Everyone, all of us are looking for a great career. And secondly, it provides a unique opportunity for public service. All that background, et cetera, has no meaning. Can I note this down? Yeah, sure. Again, the quality, so you come straight to the leadership qualities. And then you were not able to explain what leadership you were focusing on, consensus and grievance, and interest, and all that. Now that's not the job of SP or a magistrate, district magistrate, you know. They have been given powers to exercise those powers without worrying about consensus or anything. It is their job to, within the confines of law and within the confines of the rules, to achieve results. So you can't go on looking for consensus. What is important is, qualities are hard work, competence, professional competence, honesty, adherence to rule of law, and moral courage. These are the quality. And a great quality of a leader is to set an example. Then the question is, example of what? Example of these qualities. You should be honest yourself. You should be hard working. You can't sit in your air-conditioned office and give orders. You must leave from the front. That is a leadership court. Then you were asked a number of questions about constitutional questions. What is RTI? CBI has been excluded from the purview of RTI. And security organizations like IB, ROV, USF. Even the most routine inquiry, they keep saying no. You have to only agitate either in this commission or in the I-code level. But they just say no. You ask for an inquiry, which has no security angle. They say no. And they get away by saying it because they have been excluded. But of course, nobody has challenged that so far. Whether even the most inopposite inquiry, they can refuse. But they keep refusing this. Then Lokpal is another important issue. You were asked certain other important constitutional matters. For instance, Sathri Mala, you were asked. Again, the rights of women. Then fundamental duties. These are some constitutional questions. Triple talaq, adultery, mechanism to protect human rights. These are all constitutional legal issues, and then since you have been asked questions, which you will be asked, you were asked certain questions on subsidy, fertilizer, DBT. It has attempted, but it has not worked so far. DBT, fertilizer through DBT has not worked. Change in the role of IRS, direct and direct. These are all connected with our economy. Whether things have improved or not improved. Then your hobby is a research subject, etc. Swachh Bharat. As a DM, what will you do? Now you made a statement which is not very practical. That is, I'll get more industries. As a DM, you have no authority or power to invite industries. You can best tell them, but it is the government which decides which industries will be placed where there has to be a, you know, a well without a problem. After all, it's a policy decision, you can't do it. But for employment generation, you have schemes, government schemes, which you, as a DM, should implement. What are those schemes, any idea, any scheme? Sir, for example, Pidhan monthly employment generation scheme itself. Manvigar is there, so those are the schemes. And you can also say, if there are vacancies in various departments, you can tell those departments to fill those schemes. That also provides employment. Those are the ways in which you do. Then since you have done computer science, et cetera, therefore you will ask question about big data. We should be prepared to answer more questions like what is digital India, how it is working, what will be the benefits of this scheme. So these are some of the important areas which we have asked you. And I would conclude by saying that there are two areas where you should focus. One is current affairs. Second is on your buy data, you take a look at your death and then most questions will be on that. And thirdly, on constitutional issues or issues relating to fundamental rights, fundamental duties, et cetera. Yes, sir. OK, so you are doing very well. Keep on focusing. You're good boy. Thank you, sir. All the best. Thank you, sir. Good luck, Mr. Ma. Good luck. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to our channel. And press the bell icon to never miss an update.