 suspense. I'm not sure. We'll figure it out as we go. Yeah, yeah. I think we're live now. I was going to do the video for the mobile, you know, the countdown video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too late. Hello, people. Hey, everyone. Tell us when you can see us. Kate and I were just telling each other about actually I haven't even told you what. Anyway, I'll get to it. I'm getting too ahead of myself. I'm too excited. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another writing sprints. Been a while since I've live streamed. I'm sorry for that, but I brought a guest this time. I'm sure you know Kate Kavanaugh from the YouTube channel adequately titled Kate Kavanaugh. Very easy to find. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be like a half and half kind of writing sprints chat video today or stream just because that's what I normally do. And also because Kate and I have something pretty fun to announce and tell you all about and I don't know if we're going to do that. Now or in a bit? Oh. Maybe I'll give you I'll tell you a little bit first and then we'll do a writing sprint and then I'll give you the rest. I'll give you the rest of the info. I like that. Just trickle the information through. Y'all must stay past the first. All right. Cool. So everyone can see us. Got Laborina over on Twitch too. Oh, hey. Hello everyone. Hello. Hello. Hello. Where's everyone watching from today because I know in Australia it's like 11 p.m. Yeah, that's what it's 8 a.m. here. I have a good habit of like catching everyone else in the world at a good time except for the UK and Australia. I always get it terrible times. Yeah. It's hard. That's all right. Cool. All right. So I guess I could just jump in and tell you guys what the little announcement is that we have. Oh, hey, Dan's here. Good to see you, Dan. Also, I hope it's okay. I called you Dan. Some people hate I knew a guy at school. Whose name was Daniel and I used to call him Dan because I thought it was just a nice thing to do because I hate it when people call me Cameron and he got very pissed off. How dare you? Anyway, so I'll just say it basically what is happening is Kate myself and like, let me count here, 11 other authors slash YouTubers that you may or may not know collaborating and doing an anthology of horror short stories that will raise money for a charity. It's called I think it's called books in homes. I'm just going to double check that. But basically the idea is that this charity will get books and homes and what they do is they facilitate rural communities in well, I think primarily Australia, obviously, but yeah, rural communities, especially indigenous communities that don't have access to a lot of the educational material and just fun reading stuff that other people don't very cool. You should look it up if you don't know about it. It's called books in homes.com. But yeah, that's what we're doing. There is a theme for the anthology as well that I'll get to a bit later so I can spread out some of the fun and I'll also tell you about the YouTube is involved a little bit later as well. Kate and I were just telling each other what our ideas are for our stories. I don't think Kate wants to announce what hers is yet. Do you? Yeah, I'll wait. Yeah, me too. I'll wait as well. But let me just say Kate's is really, really, really good, really creepy. Well, the idea is good. The story could be horrible. I don't know. I could be trash at writing it, but the idea is there. I'm sure everyone will promise to be brutally honest with you. I didn't realize how many other people like I didn't know what the number was. So 11 others. That's so exciting. Yeah, I'll just read them out now. I have no point making people wait for that. But so there's obviously myself. Kate, there's Dane from the YouTube channel Dan Cobain. He's a friend of mine. He's very, very cool. Regina from Regina's Wanted Library. She was the one that she was the legend that got this one all arranged. This was like the first kind of. Well, I won't say it was the first ever author to a pathology because I don't know if it was, but it was the first one I saw. And yeah, she's basically what inspired me to do do this as well. I'm the one kind of arranging it this time, which is very terrifying, but I'm doing a good job. Well, all I've done so far has gotten the emails out. So I'm doing all right so far. Once I start getting the stories back, that's when it gets more difficult. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, there's Regina from Regina's Wanted Library. There's Cameron Cheney, which I feel like a lot of my audience will also know about because first of all, he's got a great name. Secondly, he is one of the most prominent that I'm aware of horror booktubers on YouTube. Just one of the nicest dudes I've ever met as well. We'll met digitally anyway. The guys from the writing community chat show, Slady from Slady's Vlogs, Jeremy Fee, Jason from Jason's Weird Reads, Lydia Peaver, Mary McWilliams, Lydia and Mary as well are pretty big horror booktubers. Matt Wall from Paperback Junkie, David DeCiro. Hope I said that right. And Grumpy Andrew from Grumpy Andrews Horror House. Those are the authors involved. You might know some. You might not. I wanted to make sure I included a lot of YouTubers that don't have like a huge audience or anything like that just because I didn't want it to feel very one-sided. And if there is anyone in this live stream right now that applied and didn't get it, please don't take it personally. There are a lot of people involved and I also reached out to a lot of the people that I worked with on this one as well and got them involved as well. So there were some invitations and some slots for applications. Yeah, there it is. There's most of the announcement and in a little bit I will tell you as well about the theme of the anthology because there's I think a pretty cool theme. Do you think it's what do you think about the theme Kate? I actually think that it is right. Saying nothing, but I think it's perfect for where we're at. Plus, I feel like it kind of goes well with covid. It's like a little bit of escapism. Yeah. Yeah. Favorite. There we go. Well, unfortunately, I don't know how Brooks going to factor into the boomer squad anymore. It's going to be or either because she's, you know, she's not really writing anymore, which is a shame. We'll figure something out. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. We can jump into a writing sprint in a bit if you like guys, but I feel like I'm doing a lot of talking. What are you going to be writing? Are you going to be writing your story for the I'm going to I'm going to be doing mostly planning for now. What about you? Have you started yet? I know I've outlined and I haven't started drafting yet. So now I'm thinking, I mean, this is the perfect stream to start. Right. Well, true. Maybe that's what I'll do. I was thinking for when it launches, which I'll talk about the release date, which isn't set in stone yet, but I'll talk about that a little bit later as well. But I was thinking when it launches, I'll try and get like as much of the YouTube is involved with it as I can into one like launch live stream. Yeah. Which will be really difficult because obviously everyone's in different time zones, but we'll see what we can do. Yeah. I was going to say even before then, if we wanted to like try and stagger something and I can do a fundraiser on mine as well and see if we can send even more money that way. That's a good idea. Anyone else have any questions or input or just anything in general about the anthology? There's obviously not a whole lot. I can tell you about it just yet because it's just in the Boneworks, but if anyone has any questions or thoughts, I'd love to hear it. Do you have any questions on the very secret project? Any questions at all, except for any questions that reveal anything about anything. Correct. I think I asked you this before. Okay. But have you written horror before? I have one other short story that's horror and that's right. It and do you have anything online at the moment that I know it's not. No, I don't. So this it'll be it'll be really fun for me. I was actually worried when I wanted to do it and then I was like, I don't know that I'm going to come up with a horror idea. And that was the scary part of our idea that also fit the theme. And so and then I was just walking around one day and it's like, you know, that's when the idea happened. Of course, yeah, and then it seemed to all come together almost immediately, which is the best. So I do like having a theme with the anthologies. First of all, because it like, you know, kind of links everything together, but secondly, because it makes it a lot easier for the writers involved. Yes, because Regina's like obviously organized local horns, but she's organized another anthology as well that I think's coming out later in the year that I wrote a story for. And the theme of that one was just cold, like cold. So I was like, oh, if I throw snow into pretty much any story, you win. Yeah. But with local horns, the theme had to be like local legends or mythologies from where you are. And unfortunately, Australia doesn't have a whole lot of good horror stories as far as I'm aware anyway. Ah, no ghost stories there. Not really. I mean, we've got like there are obviously like haunted places all around Australia, but there's nothing that's like interesting that I could really work with. It's all just like kind of generic. But I think I think what I did was kind of interesting that I can't really you can't really say anything about it without spoiling the entire thing. Right. Right. That's it. I also want to anyone in the chat has written for an anthology before. Has anyone else done that? I'm just curious. Good question. Let us know. How long do you think the first writing sprint should be? You know, I'm terrible to ask about that because I'm always like, we should do a warm up sprint. I would say like a minute is a good like a 45 minute warm up, maybe my nightmare. So I like the start of like a 10 minute one. I think that's perfect. I mean, it's easy for me because I'm just outlining today, but yeah, yeah. That's okay. I'll spend the first however many minutes. Anyways, staring at the blank page. So yeah, yeah, 27 minutes. I think is a bit long for the first stream of the day or sprint. Sorry. I mean, either do some ghost tours around the prisons in Australia. If you want haunted stories, I would love to be like one of those people that go around to like haunted places or whatever because I'm way too much of a skeptic, but I want to see if I can freak myself out because I feel like I'm a skeptic. Sure. I'm like, you know, it goes on real blah, blah, blah, but I feel like as soon as I walk in, I'm going to like squeal and run for the door. I don't believe in any of it. Yeah, I did. When I was researching for local haunts, I did notice there was some good like ghost stories and mythology within, you know, indigenous Australian culture. But obviously, you know, it's I don't want to just like Google it and then write a story about it. It just felt like kind of a little bit ignorant. That's all. But it's something I would like to explore in the future, maybe not me directly, but I would love to maybe get an indigenous Australian involved in maybe the next anthology or something. But I haven't seen any on all the tube. Unfortunately. If you ever felt so inclined to take your camera with you on some of these haunted explorations, I would watch the shit out of that. I need a little crew. I can't do it on my own. Most haunted place. I would do it. Yeah, I'd need to find a few people willing to do it because I'm not doing that solo. Alrighty, let's let's jump into a sprint. I think I think we're going to go with 10 minutes for now. Ready your engines, ladies and gentlemen. All right, pencils down, ladies and gentlemen. Terrible. Whatever do you mean? How did everyone do? As is custom on my live streams, anyone who wrote less 200 words must enter the arena and fight to the death. Oh, I got 185. It's her stand. She's in. How many did you think it's for encouragement? Yeah, I'm not. I don't have to compete because I'm like a benevolent. You're the now the emperor that sits up at the top of the Colosseum. I still want to come up with that author to game show. I still have it is still have to everyone's wedding on it. It's just it's just us. For the only one's excited. I have had a couple of people ask about it. It was directly after we were talking about it. Yeah, okay. We definitely got a few people excited. Well, good. So everyone knows that Kate's going to do a author to game show. Well, is it just like a YouTube game show? What's your plan there? Right. Yeah, the plan. I don't have 10,000 dollar prize pool. Yeah. No, I think I I'm trying to come up with how I could reasonably like I think I would need more assistance. So I would host, but I need to have other people with like kicking powers. I need to I might actually have to pay a yard so that I can have more people on the ones because I have multiple rounds and then we can have like a crown or something. Gotcha. I have formulating ideas. Give me like three more months. You're going to find some like trusted moderators. Yeah. Really excited for that. If I could digital grandson said Nickelodeon slime and if I could do that, I would. Definitely. Yeah. I was reading through some of the earlier comments that I missed on the live chat while I was on while I was meant to be doing outlining as well. Few people asked now I'm forgetting the questions. I just told myself not to forget. Well, I can talk about the possible release date now. Yeah, just fine for anyone just joining or that wasn't here when we talked about it before the announcement. So to speak is it Kate myself and like 12 or 11 other authors slash YouTubers doing a horror anthology much like Regina's local haunts. It's going to be a lot like that where it raises money for charity. The main reason it's raising money for charity rather than paying the authors is because first of all, charity is good. Second of all, the logistics of dividing payment through KDP to like more than 10 authors is not a headache. I want to deal with that's just insanity. And after that as well, I don't think it would be worth it. I don't think it would make that much money really individually once it's divided up. It's just yeah, it's just better off putting all of the profits directly towards charity. Yeah. Yeah, the next thing I was going to announce was the theme, which is much in the light of covid. It is vacations and holidays because I thought if we can't really be doing it may as well write some horror stories about it. But yeah, vacations holidays travel basically anything where you're in an unfamiliar place or you're far from home and I swear to God, you might not believe me when I say this, but when I first started planning this ages ago, I was going to call the anthology far from home and then Spider-Man, the next Spider-Man movie announced that was going to be called far from home and I was like, oh, fucking writer. Okay. Thank you. How rude of them to steal your idea. Unreal. I didn't want everyone to just be thinking of Spider-Man while they're reading a, you know, story about people getting killed on the beach or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's basically it as far as the release date. It's a little bit complicated because originally I planned for like maybe two weeks before Halloween. So people could like buy it as a gift for Halloween and technically I could still do that, but I don't know if that's cutting it a bit close, but I guess we'll see it'll either be late October or November, I would say. Yeah. So you can either get it for a Halloween present or celebrate Halloween all year round and do it as a Christmas present. Exactly. Plus, I feel like it might fit in with, like you said, Christmas as well. Very, very cool. Yeah, should be fun. I do love doing the anthologies. It's, well, I've only contributed before I haven't been the one arranging it. I'm not as excited for that part, but it's always good fun to see your short story out there in the world. I'm really excited. I've never been part of an anthology before, but I hope to be part of more and more. So this is my first and I'm pumped. It's really cool. Have you had like anything published in book form before like physical under different pen names? All right. Yeah. The secret got you got you. But yeah, if anyone has any other questions, well, not just about the anthology, but any questions for myself or Kate or both about, you know, books, writing, YouTube, whatever, Kate's personal life. Yeah, all about the name that I will not share. Got any cool videos planned? Huh? Have you got any cool videos planned for the future? You mean besides our game show? Um, yes. Yeah. I need to double check on my YouTube schedule. So like with camp and everything else that's happening. But you are very busy. I'll give you that because I have, uh, I have the bell, you know, tick for your channel. Yeah, you're welcome. But I have the bell ticked and I swear every couple of days when I get the notification for a new video going up, I'm like, God damn, I need to make a video. I'm falling will behind. Well, for what it's worth, I've been trying to go down to like two videos a week or like one and a half videos a week. So it's been a, I'm trying to stagger it a little bit better, um, as the writing is going up and up. So that's fair enough. I am with having two channels now. My, I was doing for a little bit. I was doing two videos a week on that channel and one video on, uh, you know, this writing channel, but it's so difficult with a full time job. Yeah. I'm crazy impressed that you're able to, I know you say that you don't juggle it well, but I think the fact that you're attempting it and still like putting videos out there is so impressive. The planning and the filming is not that bad. It's the editing editing and it's saying amount of time. That's why I don't do a whole lot of editing. It's just, you know, but you're editing so good. I was watching your, uh, I think the most recent video or when you were talking about the like different questions you've gotten, um, which thank you for answering. And I was hearing you talk about how the editing can take like basically a whole day that you do where you try and get like two or so knocked out. But yeah. Yeah, I only get like one or two days off work and they're usually dedicated entirely to like filming on one day and then editing on the next day. And I still may only be able to edit like one or two videos on that on that day. So it's just a whole, it's a whole thing. Not even taking into account like reading and writing and, you know, being fit and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Um, let me catch up with the chat a little bit. See, I told you people are interested in the game show. That might be what I do next. Brent is just organized to it. It's out there now. It's in the world. People are going to be expecting this. That's maybe I'll put like a something on Instagram. I'm here to take suggestions and then corral it in a way that I think would work. I have a couple of ideas. What Kate's saying is that she wants a deadline. So everyone in the chat, give her a date, a cutoff date. Yeah. Yeah. How do you decide the order for an anthology alphabetical or lock of the drawer? I think I might go like the classic alphabetical of the surname, which would put, I think that might make you first, Kate. Oh, wow. I think I was like in you might be in. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be like the last one. I think school. Take the best for last. Well, that's what I was wondering because I've read a lot of anthologies and I've always been curious about the order of it because it's like the first one you sometimes want it to set the tone or also it's some of the ones where it's like, do you tuck one that's so different in the middle, even though it's still just as good. Are you like maybe I'll wait. I don't know. I probably will mess around with the order a little bit. I was just checking to see how. Yeah, I don't think I don't think Regina did it off alphabetically. I'll mess around with the order a bit, I think because obviously I don't want all the longer stories to be clumped together as well. I want to like split them up because it's a pretty big word count range. There's like 3000 words to 8000. I think I said. Yeah. Uh, which I feel like it's a good range because I think my story might be like right in the middle of that. Um, I yeah, yeah, fascinating or like what do you do with someone because you gave us a really good theme, but I am curious if there's going to be people who have quite similar ideas because it's I don't think we're, are we supposed to tell you our ideas by a certain point? I mean, I could. No, no, no, no. Um, so one of the alters involved did ask me that, but I was like, I don't really want to like, you know, dictate what people do or what direction they go in. I feel like there's a good chance everyone's going to kind of do their own thing. But yeah, I'm going to get all the stories obviously by the, by the date we set and I will read them all. And if there are a couple that are like really similar, I'll email the people involved and ask them if they ask them what they want to do, but, um, even if they are really similar, unless they are like exactly the same. I think I would still be fine with including them. Yeah. Here's a question for you, Kate. No, I just, you know what? I think at least that sub genre, I was aware existed. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's like, of course. Unfortunately, I stumbled across it a few too many times. Don't tell you about how, um, my book, Welcome to Sank keeps getting put in the erotica character categories. I think I heard you say something about that. That's so funny. Beyond the joke, like at first I thought it was funny and I was like, oh, that's, you know, that's kind of funny. Whatever I emailed them and they fixed it and then I went on a week later and it was back in the erotica categories, but different erotica categories. I'm like, someone's got to be doing this. Like someone's fucking with me. Surely. Yeah. That's so weird though. So weird. People are going to be very disappointed if they're reading it, expecting like some really kinky stuff. Yeah. I mean, maybe maybe they'll be satiated a little bit. Yeah. Anyway, um, how do I feel about that? Thank you. Nana right now in November or camp Nana Rima right now. I gave up on camp Nana Rima like immediately. I in like a week. Yeah. That's what I actually haven't worked on my vampire stories, uh, since like the first couple of days, but I'm still working on a story with my brother, which was like my main goal for July. Um, so I'm like, you know what? I'll circle back around after I actually finish the first three chapters, uh, that I'm going to send to him. So I'm like, okay, now I can do vampires again. Right. How's your D&D thing going as well? When you're writing a D&D story. Yeah, that's the one that I have three chapters written in the problem or like the great thing about the D&D story is that like it's dependent on us playing and my brother's schedules got really busy. So we only did, we did like 10 sessions. Um, we're going to start up again, which is good. So basically I have three chapters, one chapter per session that's happened right now. Um, so as long as we get back to playing, I'll have enough of a buffer. That's really cool. That's awesome. I've, I've like, uh, I've never played D&D, but it's something I've always wanted to do, but and my friends want to as well, but there's not quite enough of us that want to do it to like, I don't know, make it effective and it's just, I've seen a lot of things about how to do it online, like with other online people, but it just seems like a lot of, uh, a lot of hassle for an introvert to, you know, reach out to strangers. Organisers, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but anyway, um, how long till the anthology will be out? Probably October, November. Vella launches to readers tomorrow. I'm not sure what that is. You know what Vella is? Yeah. So it's Kindle Vella and I actually don't know if it's in all of the countries to be fair. I know Kindle and Amazon are kind of weird about their release stuff, but basically it's like, uh, short serialized, like they have to be under 5,000 words and you're releasing them like, it's kind of like releasing a chapter at a time. Um, I think they're called episodes instead. So I actually think I'm going to try and put the D&D story over there. Uh, kind of seems like Amazon's trying to, uh, dip their feet into like the Wattpad territory there. Yeah, no, I think it's genius. Like what they're doing, I mean Amazon's like both terrible and great. Um, I think it's genius. So they're, I think they're very smartly seeing apparently other countries. It's really huge in, uh, not Vella, but like other concepts like that. Uh, so yeah, no, I think it's, I think it's smart. Okay, cool. Uh, the people throwing the stories into the anthology, by the way, everyone, they're allowed to publish them outside of the anthology as well. So you could very well see people short stories in other places too. Apparently you're terrible at keeping your real name secret. Well, I've never heard it. I think it's cause I keep it on the screen, like an idiot or like I had, um, I had some, uh, half marathon medals and stuff like that. And so it's like, I had them pinned at the time right on the wall where my computer always was. So like I'm vlogging and it's like, you can clearly see like it would be incredibly easy to find my real name because I used it on YouTube for like the first year that I was doing YouTube. So it would be so easy. And yeah, I don't know why I did. It was really dumb because as soon as I started getting subscribers, I started getting a lot of, um, friend requests on Facebook too, which is like, I don't know. I'm not angry at people for doing that, but like, don't go on my Facebook, please. Please. Well, that's too much embarrassing stuff. I was, uh, I watched N. K. Jemisin's masterclass, which was wonderful. And like one of the last lessons she had and obviously N. K. Jemisin is like a hugely famous popular like, um, award-winning author, but all the things she had to do to basically set up how like to keep people from being able to find her and having to come up with like a separate company in order to buy her house so that people didn't know where she lived. And it's just all sorts of crazy stuff. And I'm not saying that like we're anywhere near that, but it's a lot nicer to be like, I'm in the San Antonio area and I have, this is my fake name and like not getting more specific than that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not worried about like getting stalked or anything like that. I don't think I'm that interesting, but I have had a few people, uh, uh, unwillingly had to interact with being a YouTuber that, um, I definitely wouldn't want knowing my, uh, personal details. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, that's a whole other thing. Um, I think we'll jump into another sprint in a minute. Just trying to read through the car. I always miss a ton of comments. Um, she says, I use my real name, but don't plan to publish under my actual name for those exact reasons. Yeah. Um, yeah, I wouldn't tell people what to do, but I would probably recommend at least looking into using a pen name because if you do happen to get super famous, it's just, you know, plus you can choose whatever name you want. Yeah. Pick a cooler name than your current name. Yeah. I mean, no one, no one that I'm aware of has the name wolf in real life. I just thought it was cool, but I didn't want to look like a total douche. So I put an E on the end make it fancy very, very sophisticated. Like classic fantasy naming. Exactly. Exactly. Plus my in my real name. My initials are triple C as well. So that's a whole other thing I didn't want, I didn't want to go into. I think this question is for you because I have not bought masterclass before. It was for me. I really liked the classes. I don't think it's. Oh, I don't know the price off the top of my head. I've taken three of the classes. Um, a lot of other people are able to take more classes in the like one year subscription. I like also having ones that aren't just writing classes. So I've taken some cooking ones. So I guess I've taken more than three three writing ones, but I also like have the benefit of if I make in my head if I make a video about it and I make money from the video I can kind of be like well, it was worth it then. So I have a little bit more going into me thinking it's worth it than just what I saw from it. But plus you've got videos. Talking about the masterclass as well, don't you say? Yeah, yeah. So it's YouTube at Kate Kavanaugh masterclass. It was you did one with the Neil Gaiman's masterclass didn't you Neil Gaiman's in K. Jimmison's and I did one. I think it's Patterson's like a year ago or something. Yeah, I think I remember that one too. I really liked the Neil Gaiman video you did. Oh, thank you. Yeah, the Neil Gaiman class was great. So was in K. Jimmison's. I would recommend both of them. I got different things out of them and it's always fun. I think writers were constantly learning. But it's always great when I can learn from people that are like, you know, hugely successful stuff. I haven't heard before. So yeah, probably a bit biased as well because I just adore Neil Gaiman as a person. He's just so great. It's worth it just to hear him talk for that long. Honestly, I would on repeat like lose through it. God, are you ever going to publish this Wolf Face stiffly again? Do you know? Do you know the Wolf Face stiffly might not even be me? I've just heard he's some like ethereal enigmatic, brilliant creative mind. Do you know about Wolf Face stiffly? You know, I remember some sort of purposeful erotica novel. Is that what we're is does that Wolf Face stiffly work? Wolf Face stiffly for anyone who isn't familiar with him. He's no one really knows much about him. He's a bit of a genius. I've heard anyway. But basically, he has only written one title. Some would say that it is probably one of the best books ever written and it's called Love Comes in Three. Not spelt the way you would hope or think it is. Jokes aside, Wolf Face stiffly was just a little gag I did ages ago because I thought the Chuck Tingle thing was funny. You know, the really wacky erotica things like mating with the raptor or shaking Bigfoot. I don't know all those kind of books. And I was like, it can't be that hard and I've read a couple of them just for fun. And I was like, the idea is obviously wacky, but the writing is also really bad. Not necessarily Chuck Tingle, but the other ones I read Chuck Tingles actually not that bad. But the writing was really bad and I was like, surely it can't be hard to write an absolutely absurd erotica story and have the writing be at least decent. So I thought I would write one in one day and I did and that's the end of the story. Of Wolf Face stiffly. Will we have a continued story or was that truly the end? Oh, I completely dodged the question to am I ever going to publish this Wolf Face stiffly again? He might come out of retirement. I don't know. He's a mysterious guy. You know, I do have copies of Cam's work with his real name on them. They are relics. That's some rare artifacts you have, Jessica. Hold on to them. They will. I'm sure they'll always be worthless, but still hold on to them. All right. Cool. I think that's a good spot to jump into a longer writing sprint. I will let you as the guest decide this one. Kate. We did 10 minutes. Is that what we did? You know, how about a nice 22? Or that not long enough since we've been chatting for a hot minute. 22 is fine. Okay. It's the really mess with the people that like round numbers. I'm going to make it 22 and 3 seconds. Perfect. The first time I ever did this, just making like a random number on the end. There was one person in the chat that got so offended. They actually left. They left. I've never seen them on my channel since. That's what I like to do. My chaos sprints and also change. I look the the seconds could be manipulated to there were people at the beginning who were like, how dare you or like who want to do people who were using the force app and I'm like, that's on you. Use that app. But like, we're doing weird numbers here. Welcome to the chaos. Yes. It's why I like saying pencils down just to keep everyone on edge. That's the harm us. That's where the best writing is done when you're on the edge. All right, I'm going to mute myself during the sprint as well, guys, but here we go. Ready, set, go. That's it. No pencils down. Not this time now. I give everyone a break. Yeah, keep us on our toes. How'd you do? He's getting there. Sorry. Had. You two was looping back. I was getting an echo. Okay. Right. Okay. You didn't get that. I did a little bit of outlining. I'm kind of stuck because I don't know. I could make the story go and either a supernatural direction or I could just have it not be supernatural supernatural at all. And I feel like it would be creepy the way, but I just can't decide. Yeah. Oh, I'm now. I mean, I'm curious how many people will be doing. I'm doing a supernatural lean to mine. So I thought yours works really well with the supernatural lean. Yeah. We'll see. I need to I need to hear more about your I just got the like vague premise of yours. I didn't quite get that's all I got. That's all I got right now. So that's why. Yeah. Is it one of those where you potentially write both options and see what you like better? Or is it that's not really how you work kind of thing? I don't think I would write both, but I would do like pretty extensive planning into both. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I can't see myself writing out a whole ending and then cutting. Actually, I had done that before. I didn't like it. Okay. Okay. That's fair. That's what until I got confirmation from you that like I could end it the way. I mean, again, Cam's not telling us how to end things, but I wanted to make sure I was fitting in the theme. I was going to write options. So at the end of the day, it's just a theme like people can really take that in any direction they like. Yeah. I just thought it would be cool to have a well, originally a far from home theme, but as we discussed before, stupid Marvel already stole that. No, I love the thing. It's like people did just about as well as I did. It's all right. I'll let everyone off the hook tonight for the low word counts seems pretty chill, chill stream. Did you see the do you watch? I should probably ask you first. Do you watch the Witcher? Yes, I'm so excited for it to come back. Did you see the trailer for the next season? I have not yet. It looks good. It looks really good. I will totally not be watching that during the next spread. I would have us like live react to it, but I don't think I can like screen share with sound. Right. But it does look very, very cool. Yes. I was wondering why, you know, Siri, I was wondering why she looked like so much different in this season compared to the last season. And I was thinking about it for ages. And I was like basically doing the detective thing where you have the photos on the wall with the yarn. And I was like, yeah, why does she look so different? And I finally figured it out. It's because in the first season, she had a blonde eyebrows. Yeah. And in the new one, they're like black eyebrows. It's always the brows. That's how they get time. Something very bizarre about blonde eyebrows. No offense to anyone with blonde eyebrows, but from a distance or under the wrong lighting, it looks like you don't have any eyebrows at all. That's what my dad, so my dad was a redhead. He's bald now, but as a redhead, he has very fair eyebrows. But now that he's bald and has, and basically doesn't have eyebrows, he's had people legitimately ask him if he was like going through chemo or something. And he's like, no, it's like, why would you? Anyways, do you like the Mr. Clean look or something? Yeah. I went to school with a girl who had that. Is it alopecia? I feel like that's wrong. Anyway, the one where your hair can fall out, but she didn't seem to care at all. She thought it was funny. I just remember her laughing about it a lot. Might have been a coping mechanism, but still. No. Yeah, I do agree there. But Henry Cavill making it difficult for the rest of for the rest of us. It's impossible to compete in in 2021 with that with like that. Henry Cavill's specimen exists. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, look at him. Plus he's like a super nice guy and he's also a like total nerd. Yep. Checking all the boxes. She does look like an, yeah, she definitely aged a lot since the first season. She makes sense. It's been a couple of years, I guess. It's like a stranger things like I saw a video recently where I compared the young actors and stranger things to like them now. It's just insane. Makes me feel old. I have played the game. The one that everyone's everyone's played, which is three. Have you played it, Kate? I've not played it. My boyfriend loved it though. He actually, I think tried to read some of the books and it's just they're different because I think it was it wasn't an originally like a collection of short stories that like or like, you know, disjointed that's why the show very episodic. I think first. Yeah. So which to be honest, I love I love like really episodic fantasy. It's actually like a huge inspiration for the fantasy series. I want to write just the idea of like being able to write short fantasy, not quite novellas a bit longer than novellas, but my plan is to write like short fantasy books that are self-contained, but all of them do have a running kind of plot behind them. Yeah. Can I tell you? Favorite things. I was listening to a podcast and there's this author Jason Reynolds. So he's a hugely popular award-winning children's author like young adult author, but he was saying how he thinks that fantasy kind of keeps people out sometimes just because of the sheer length and he's like what you need to find is someone who can write, you know, shorter fantasy may get more well people who are not already like buried in the genre and I was like that is what we need. So I love the idea of more bite size. Yeah, because I love the genre. I like watching the genre. I like the stories, but I'm just I find it hard to read the mammoth fantasy books. Yeah. Plus it's like there's so much you can do with it too. Like if you wanted to have this big epic fantasy world or whatever, I think you would be like a big benefit for the world building to also have like spin-offs where it's just short like episodic things like recently for my other channel. I read Delta request and this looks like a big book, but it's because there's like eight books in this and it's just like short fantasy like stories not really episodic, but yeah, that's just a fantasy that I read when I was a kid. So I was like, I'll revisit it, but just made me realize how much I love reading like short of fantasy. Now I need to check it out. It is pretty good. Delta request is a partial to it because it's written by an Australian Emily Rota, but a lot of people know about it as well because it had an anime cartoon based on it that a lot of people watched when they were kids. Bucket list item is to have like what's a lot of time it's like have a movie made out of your books or it's like TV show and I'm like, you know what an animated series. Yeah, imagine writing like a series and having the people in Japan like basically on the other side of the world or in a culture that isn't known for you know being drawn to Western fantasy having them love your series so much that they make a cartoon out of it. I think that would just be one of the most flattering experiences. So cool possible. Yeah, apparently he was like almost bigger in Japan than it was in Australia. Do you think someone could write a book completely made up of every trope and cliche that is for a genre and still make it interesting? I feel like you could if it was very self-aware. Yeah, well and also like certain cliches and tropes are popular for a reason. So like I think you'd have one of those things where you've divided your audience for like some people love it because they have all the tropes that they love and some people hate it because it has all the tropes that they hate. But yeah, I do think like a funny self-aware version would be really cool. Yeah, I mean if you're aiming to literally have every trope and cliche, I feel like you would have to not take it too seriously. Yeah, also there are so many like the endless. I read an article about social media and storytelling about how things like Tik Tok are compressing attention spans. You have to work hard to capture attention and be fast paced. I've thought a lot about that, but when I was like thinking about, you know, Tik Tok's messing up everyone's attention spans, I realized I was sounding a lot like all of the adults that said the exact same thing about us with YouTube. Yeah, I try not to. I try not to judge too much, but I mean it's it's just a thing that we live in a world now where the majority of people that don't really I don't I don't know if it's so much like an attention span thing that people expect entertainment to be very fast paced. Yeah, that's how it is. Well, I always say again, my thing with fantasy, but people said about like young adult and kids books is that kids like you need to immediately catch their attention and entertain them. And so writing for children can be a very different thing than adults will be willing to give you like three or four chapters in a fantasy book to like get your ish together. And I'm like, I've always resonated with the kids here because I'm like, if I'm not, why of all the books in the world would I necessarily wait? Like it's just a different vibe of the kind of book I like, but also like, I don't know. I think it's just your after different things. If you're going on Tik Tok, you're like, I want to be immediately entertained by right now, but those people still want to go to YouTube and watch like the hour long commentary videos about stuff. So, you know, like I I waste hours and hours watching Tik Toks just innocuously usually before I go to bed. But I can still sit down and read a book for hours and I'm on end as well. So, but it does like I don't know about the future. What will the future? Yeah, I think again, not sure not trying to sound too much like no generation up before us, but like it is a little bit concerning just imagining like because I didn't have to do this and I imagine Kate didn't either. But I'm we didn't really have to grow up in a as as children. We didn't really grow up that connected to everything else and everyone else in the world. And that's just kind of baffling to me that like growing up nowadays. You just you have everything in the world at your fingertips information wise. Yeah, which I imagine would be extremely overwhelming. Yeah, I think the amount of overwhelming have especially have children who grew up wanting to man that that would be so tough. Yeah, plus the expectation for every like for every young person now is to be like an influencer on social media. And if you're not doing that, it's like, you know, I'm failing kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, you can now quantify how popular you are in your school and outside of your school is now a metric that you can be high and it's like these. Oh, man. Yeah. It's rough and this really is a boomer stream, isn't it? Yeah, I mean our name. Who boomers rant about social media? Yeah, Witcher is releasing an anime prequel to the to the series as well. It's like in the universe. So it's connected, but it's an anime, which is very cool. Yeah. I love short stories. I've made plenty of videos talking about why, but it's just because I think it's like just brilliant to be able to pick up a story that you know you can finish in one sitting. So like if you're about to go to work or something, you can just sit down and read a short story and like one whack. That's awesome. I'm actually waiting for that to be for a crab pub to get all that a little bit. I think Andy has done a really good job. And obviously there's always been anthologies and stuff like that that, you know, Neil Gaiman, I think Ursula K. Look, we did some stuff like there's a bunch of people who have done short stories and made anthologies of them. But I feel like trad pubs really missing missing the ballgame. Is that? Yeah. They're missing out on what indie authors have already put together. Yeah, I feel like I feel like they probably just don't see much money in it. Unfortunately. Yeah. Sad. Yeah. Just want to say hi. Hello. Haven't heard of that one. It sounds fun. What is your opinion on how fantasy is treated in academic circles? Isn't I imagine it would be very well liked in academic circles. Isn't that like the one genre of fiction genre that academic circles color it? Yeah, I feel like maybe sci-fi. I'm not in enough academic circles in words to fiction for me to know how fantasy is treated. I'm very, very picky with sci-fi. I I don't like most of it just because it's not for me, but there are a few that do hit the right spot like the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. Brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. I usually listen to you guys at 1.75 speed. So we probably sound drunk right now. Yeah. Have you ever listened to an audio book and then like put it back to the normal speed? It sounds wrong. It sounds like they're going forever to say something. Yeah. Well, that's what I think. So Jessica Williamson, I think listens at like freaking two times speed or something now. I've gotten up to like too fast. I can't do that. Yeah. I'm at 1.5. I need to be because I usually do it while I'm like working or something. So I need to be able to process it. Yeah. But um, yeah, I was listening at 1.5 the other day and I accidentally bumped it back to like normal speed and I just couldn't like fathom that that was normal speed. I was like, they sound drunk. Yeah. Yeah. So bizarre. Um, I suppose we should probably jump into the last sprint. Yeah, the conversation is awesome today though. Yeah, that's that's what I usually do. I am my my sprints are usually half talking half sprints. Yeah. Yeah. This is like the only time you can really interact with you know, people live rather than just in the comments of videos. Yeah. Otherwise, we're just usually talking to the void that is our camera. Yeah. Yes. The beautiful camera lens. Yes. My biggest fan. Fantasy and sci-fi generally looked down on. Then what do they like? There's bloody snobs. God, because I know they don't like contemporary or romance or any of that stuff. Yeah. Well, but then the dobbling writer says academic love financing because there's so much to analyze racing class structure and political struggles, historical differences. That that's been my experience. Obviously, I hang out with academics quite a lot. You know me, but yeah, I would imagine they would love fantasy. Where's Steve Donohue when you need him? I'm sure he would have the answer. Yeah, I feel like I saw him earlier too. I think he was in here. Proper literature. Sitting around their little circles smoking their pipes, adjusting their monocles. I hope there's no academics in here because I'm basically equating them to the monopoly men right now. I'm sorry. All right, let's do a spray. What time is it? I think another 20 minute one would be good. That way we can chat for 10 minutes and then wrap it up. Sounds perfect for you. Yeah. Cool. How does 20 minute sound chat? Can I get a hell yeah in the chat? Hell yeah. It's not too late. We're doing it anyways. Thank you, Doug. All right. 20 minute writing sprint. Whoever gets the most words and whoever gets the least words will have to fight hand to hand combat to the death and the winner gets Kate's YouTube channel. Ready set go. Is that better? Yeah, that is better. I imagine that got everyone's attention. So ends the final sprint. Cool. Feel like I did okay. I did about three paragraphs worth of planning. So nice. That's what I feel. I feel pretty successful. Yeah. How do you do? I have all of the I took the outline and now it's all its individual scene cards and I got multiple different variations of the opening. So I know where the scene needs to be. It's more just like, do I want to use dialogue at the very beginning or like wait a little bit? Anyways, you know, all those things for your questioning yourself. I also manage nails at the time. So this is a great two hours for me. I'm going to need a finished copy in 24 hours on my desk, please. Yeah. Oh, people seem to like the, the alert I did to get going back. Yeah. Somehow less drug. I started a little habit of on my writing streams. I would like show a random party trick. Usually it's just stuff. I've seen on tiktok, but now it's like expected every time I stream to do a party trick. Well, it's pretty lame party trick, but yeah, you can make fart noises just by putting your mouth on your forearm. There you go. One of the last ones I did was if you get a, I don't have one with me now, but if you get like a toilet roll or a paper towel roll and you make like a snoring sound into it, you can like perfectly emulate a lion's roar. It's crazy like how close it is. It's crazy. Trust me. I will try this because I have one that's almost done. Usually I just take it and go, Oh, at the puppy. And I wonder if will I scare them with it though? No, you have to trust me on this. Give it a try. I'm sorry. You said a snoring noise. Hang on. Hang on a second. I'll see if I can. Okay. See if I can pinpoint the, I'm pretty sure someone clipped it on Twitch, but I don't think, I don't think it stays there. Unfortunately. It's probably gone by now. Can I mute the tab? Who's my one part? I don't think it's gone. No. Oh, anyway, but yeah, that's a party trick. I can't remember what the other party trick I did was it is the end of the stream. Unfortunately, Mary, we're going to chat for like another five minutes or so, but yeah, we're wrapping up soon. Unfortunately. I think I've kept Kate hostage here long enough. No. This is actually what my horror shorts. People did really good. Yeah, I'm seeing a little like people over the 500 words mark, which is pretty crazy. Oh, six words shy. Should be ashamed if you sell cake them. I'll kick you immediately. No, that's all right. You did well. See Stephanie's got my back on that. Okay. Party trick stand out a doorway or against a wall and press one side against the wall with your arm in there. Try to lift it. What? I feel like I'm too dumb to understand. Stand out a doorway or against a wall. But try. Try to lift it at the shoulder. Try to lift the wall. I'm trying to visualize what this is. Yeah. Yeah, I'm you need more. I'm willing to give it a try, but I don't know what I don't know what you want me to do. Oh, when you walk forward, your arm will raise on it. Oh, wait, I think I know what they're talking about. It's like because your arms. What? Yeah, if you like go to a wall, I'm pretty sure it is like if you go to a wall or something and you like have your arm against it and you like push really hard for like, I don't know a minute or two and then you step away from the wall, your arm like oh, oh, oh. Gotcha. That's like I've seen that when people hold down on your arms. So not a wall, but it's like someone's going to hold it for you and you just keep trying and then they randomly let their hands go. You know, my friends used to do and I was a teenager that I thought was just the dumbest thing. I never did it because I thought it was just more on it, but they used to like stand against a wall, put their arms like that and you have someone else. You take it really deep breath. Someone else pushes on your arms in your chest so that you can't breathe. And then you like pass out for a couple of seconds and then you come back to and they did it because they said that you would have like insane like visions or like microdreams and they just thought it was really funny, but I've the whole time they were doing it. I was thinking, I'm pretty sure you're giving yourself brain damage. That's probably what it is. That's what the crazy dreams are. Yeah. Gonna pass on that one. Yeah, I was like knowing my luck. I'd do it and never wake up again. Um, I'm just saying something real quick. I got anything you want to chat about before we wrap it up today. Kate. No, I didn't know if you wanted to do one final PSA about the anthology just in case people came in late. I will. I will indeed. And a comment, which is cool because I keep forgetting that's something we can do. Yes. I'm saying people hurt themselves. Jessica says people doing that now and are dying. Yeah. Yeah, I think I heard about people doing a similar thing on TikTok and people are actually giving themselves brain damage. All right. So you don't have to do it right now. Okay. But like after the stream, I'm just going to put a link in the comments. It's for the last live stream. I did and if you skip to 28 minutes for everyone in the chat too, if you want to do this later, if you skip to 28 minutes, that's where I do the party trick with the paper towel roll and it will change your life. I don't want to oversell it, but it is the best thing you will ever see. But it will change. But yeah, this is about to be my peak. Everything else from here is downhill. I'm ready. I think it's a blue my mind when I did it for the first time or when I saw it for the first time. So okay. So I'll explain what the anthology is again and then Kate can explain the theme. Let's split it up a bit. So for anyone who didn't hear before, basically myself, Kate and like 10 other authors slash YouTubers. So they're all on YouTube. Some have like relatively small channels. Some have larger channels like Kate. And we are working together to make an anthology of horror short stories, which will be raising money for books in homes, which is a Australian organization that gets books to kids that can't really, you know, access them because we all know how crappy that is. Oh, you know, at least from an outside perspective, we all know how crappy that is for kids who don't even have the option of a library in a lot of cases in rural communities. That's kind of stuff. Yeah, it's a really great cause. I think it's going to be really fun. The book will be likely released around late October or November and there's already a cover or concept cover that I showed Kate before the stream. And personally, I think it looks really cool. It doesn't. It'll be very cool to see it on like a proper paperback. So yeah, you'll be able to buy it's a physical copy of the book and an e-book as well. Yeah. Yeah, specifically the theme that came up with is away from home, not far from home away from home. Yeah, I don't want to get her copyright claim from Marvel Studios. Yeah. Taking place outside of your house, maybe outside of the city on vacation. What have you? Very basically all the stuff you can't really do right now with the pandemic. Yeah. But yeah, that's basically a good stream. Thanks for joining me. Kate, I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. No worries and thanks everyone in the chat for joining in as well. Hope you liked the little announcement there and I'm sure Kate will be back around at some point. We've got a little boomer squad here. I'll see if I can rope Brooke back in somehow as well. I know. She can just like make a book cover or something during the running. That's what I told her. Yeah, yeah. See if we can get her back in. But yeah, thanks again guys for joining in. That's about it. And broadcast.