 Or, you have requested that I explain a little about my journey in the yoga of Serabindan the mother. So, this yoga started in Spain, not in India. I was part of a group that we are trying to practice yoga in the west for many years. There have been plenty of people that have entered in contact with the yoga. Normally it is hatha yoga and then I was going to an school that was in my city, Pamplona. It is in the north of Spain, in the Pyrenees, in Nevalé, a very cold place. Then we were a group of people interested in starting to practice hatha yoga. That was the main idea. I was going there by medical prescriptions because they were telling me it will be very interesting for you to practice yoga. But I have had all my life a very strong inclination to the philosophy. Then I started to study the philosophy behind the hatha yoga, why these practices, what they want to achieve. Then I realized very soon that there were a number of schools with very different orientations in practice. Then I started to look for books connected with yoga that could explain to me a number of things. Then in my past I was involved in politics for 15 years. I was part of the revolutionary movement in my country that wanted to put down the dictatorship of the general Franco. At that time he was alive, was fastest dictatorship and then I started fighting against that situation. Then there were moments during that fights of a lot of stress, nerves, it was difficult to keep that fighting going on and for that reason the doctors told me it will be good that you start to do this practice. They will help you to keep your mind calm and they will help you to calm yourself and all these things. So one friend that was with me in all these underground movements at the beginning in Spain and then we were fighting in the open with big strikes and we were organizing plenty of things against the dictatorship. One friend of mine gave me a book that was published in Spain at that time. It was in the year 1985. And in this book there was a faqir in the presentation with the legs up. But in the back part they were explaining this is a book that is writing by Esero Vindo. Esero Vindo was revolutionary, was in jail, was, wow, I connected immediately with this and I was thinking, well if somebody can explain to me very well but the young guys is probably this person. So I enter in the book, I started to study and was a big surprise for me in a number of things. I was attracted by the writing of Esero Vindo, his thinking was very remarkable thinker, was very original for me at many levels. Many of the things that he was explaining was having a big impact in me. But at that time I was completely attached. I was young and I have been for a number of years completely attached. So the first conflict with Esero Vindo is when he was explaining where was the base for all his experiences and from where they came in. He was starting to speak of Raman, was starting to speak of the spirit and I was in full revolt against these ideas. And I remember that after all the working and doing plenty of political activities I was going home and I was in the bed I was taking the book and reading. Then I have to recognise that at that time even I was thinking sometimes when I was reading some of these pages I take the book and I thrown by the window that was open because it was for me a very big contradiction to find this kind of expressions the references to the divine and I was for me it was like step back again in something that I was experimenting when I was a child I was educated as a Christian, Catholic Christian and I have some negative experiences always with the charts with all these ideas and for me it was like to step back at the beginning. But little by little I entered in the book more and well that book was called in Spanish guía del yoga integral that was a selection of letters of a heroine and only with that book it was a I have an enormous impression on me it was shocking me and at a certain moment I realised I was like cheating me because I was not accepting things one part of my personality but others part have accepted fully I discovered this in one moment and well then at that time also I was thinking if I enter in this all my life will change and I was even in the revolutionary movement I was well established I have my friends I have all my references we are connected with that and I knew that if I enter here I will have to change entirely my life and I was not really also for that so this movement took time for some months finally I finished the book convinced that the poetry I have been describing was Honest experiences of him and was opening a new world for me so with a group of people in that school we started to read the books and to have discussions we were a small group of five, six persons in that group I have an encounter with a person that is my wife today and then we become closer and we started to live a new life together and very focused in the yoga so I was starting to to have a growing interest for all the philosophy of esero and everything I started to look for more books then we discover supreme and then we in some magazines in Spain there was a special issue dedicated towards communities in the world and then in one of them appeared Auroville when we read the article about Auroville then we saw for the first time the photograph of the galaxy I remember this impression when I saw the photograph I thought but it was not even thinking was something coming out of me telling this city is at the same level than the philosophy of esero it was a very strange impression so at that moment when we discovered this article those three or four pages describing Auroville we decided that we will come to visit India and visit Auroville because one thing are the magazines they can tell you very beautiful things sometimes but the reality many times is very different so we decided ok let's go and let's see by ourselves what is Auroville so this we did the first trip in 1988 the first trip I did alone because Anandi was not in conditions for coming in that year was having the mother very sick and died when I was in India so she decided to stay there and then I came and I contacted Auroville was a surprise because in the 88 Auroville was very little developed and Matemander was one person working with the hammer I was here in one and everything was like that so the impression was shocking for me because I was expecting that the city will be more more developed at that time and then at that time also they were discussing that it was the possibility that the government of India will recognize the Auroville Foundation Act still was not approved but they were discussing because they were concerned about the situation at that time and that it was very difficult and they didn't have any kind of recognition and they were concerned and all this and that probably the government will do that at that time also there was only one Spanish person in Auroville that was called Saranam passed away some years ago only one then I contacted her and I requested of course all kind of papers, documents to give me all that you can she was working at that time in the laboratory of evolution and then she gave me a big chunk of papers and with these papers in the suitcase I came back to Spain and then I told to Anandi everything and then we decided to come back the next year together so we came back and then we contacted again Saranam and everyone that we could at that time Anandi was faster than me and she told me well I think that this place is made for us and maybe we should think about the possibility of coming forward to Auroville she took the decision very fast I was still with many doubts mental doubts and many things at that level the decision was taken by both we will we will prepare we are coming to Auroville we realize that Auroville was not in conditions to give us anything at that time because it was very limited and very in that whatever we could do we should do it with our own means so for a number of years we were involved in saving money and to have the possibility to come to Auroville and well to stay for one year at least and to cover all our expenses and all this this was made possible only in the year 1995 then we came we started to work as a new commerce and then we started to work in Matrimandir we work as a masons in the staircase putting these pieces of marble and it was a very delicate work we have no idea of working as masons but ok we learned and then we started there and it was a very beautiful experience for us to work in Matrimandir for almost one year and to experiment the Matrimandir in death was the first step in Auroville and I am very grateful for that experience and then at the end of the year we started to think what will be our field of activity in Auroville we started to think ok we are going to remain here so in which area which group which will be the best then at that time we have a contact with the person close to us this person we were doing duties in the Matrimandir in the afternoon in the ramp at that time the Matrimandir was not finished and then we were doing the duties there sometimes they treat together this person that was helping us to be introduced in Auroville and both of us one afternoon we received the visit of a journalist that was looking for this person and then came from the ramp until the entrance and then asked for this person and then they have an interview and then this person started to speak against Roger Anger against the galaxy, against everything we were quite shocked for hearing all this and then the interview finished the journalist was asking what is your opinion about Roger because at that time if he will settle in Auroville or not and what will happen with all the plans of Roger and then this person told look the basis that Roger goes away he has nothing to do now in Auroville this dream of the big galaxy city and all this it was in the past now we have a small community and we are not interested in doing this also we feel that he was not here during the number of years and we are not interested in this person coming back for us was a big shock because we were reading we came I will not say well prepared but we came prepared we have written a number of things and then the galaxy well we were having by the way the photo of the galaxy we were having in the chimney the galaxy photo for us was always a reference for us Auroville was that and then to have even this presence in all our normal life was important so for us this experience was shocking painful so we were not aware that many things were underground in Auroville at that time and then we started to realize little by little so we decided that we will go to Auroville future and then we will speak with the people there we speak with Luigi we knew Luigi and then we asked him what is happening in Auroville we are hearing this the other day happened this and we were completely shocked Luigi was the person that was central person in Auroville's future the office of Roger and was helping Roger in the first years to come back to settle in Auroville and to develop of course the city and then she told us that look there are many people that want the city they have developed the green areas of Auroville was a small community I don't know how many people were at that time little and some of the green belters didn't want the city because they were thinking that the thing was finished now we don't have the international dimension that Auroville have in the times of mother all the sources of money has been possibilities of growing have been finished now we have to develop whatever by our own means and then they were very practical and then these big dreams were not in their mind the same was happening with the architects the majority of the architects at that time 95 were against Roger listen we contact for example anupama I think in those years and she was telling us the same many majority of the architects don't believe that the realization of the galaxy is possible and also we don't want a dream that doesn't belong to the 90s it's in the 60s so after these conversations we decided that when we will finish or work in matrimony the first year we will start to work in our own future both of us because for us both the galaxy both an integral part of the vision of the mother and to mutilate that part will means to mutilate a very important aspect of the vision of the mother so our own future at that time was a very small office there were only 3 persons working there and Roger was going back and coming to our own was always because most of his creativity was prepared when he was outside he was in Cal and then who could prepare plans for the future and then when he was coming he and Jacqueline his wife were coming with a number of plans that they were preparing in France and then they were showing us the new plans so in our own future we spent 10 years and then my wife was organizing the administrative part and I was involved in the development at that time we started with a small group that was the building applications to build permissions and then Roger was checking the plans and was telling yes or not then the next step was also to participate in the development group because at that time we were discussing the possibility of having a proper development group in Auroville and the relation with Roger it was conflictive because some of the people some of the members of the development group at that time were thinking that the galaxy was not possible and it was a big vision that was not possible to realize now in Auroville so we started in any case with the development group and working in our own future looking to those years respectively many times we have spoken that these years even with all the difficulties because when we enter in this office some of the people some of the friends that we were making in Auroville and a number of people that we knew some of them even stopped to say hello to us and all these things they were creating a space of we don't want to recognize you you are in the wrong place but are you doing wrong so it was difficult for us until certain extent and then we started to work and we started to in that position to become even stronger and stronger ourselves and then we were lucky and then we started to prepare some projects and those projects were followed because a moment in Auroville future some years ago very interesting was the possibility of doing some big plans and then was the moment that we realize what is called today the the town hall the town hall is not the proper town hall it was a building for development but ok as we put all the services together at that time everything was very expressed in Auroville all the working groups the financial service was in Kulapallayam the other group was in kids in very bad conditions so our dream was if we could put all the working groups together in a building and imagine we need to go to the financial service and then we go one floor down and everything is there we don't need to take the motorbike and go to I don't know where so that was our dream and this was realized the funds we did a very big project with the European Commission Asia Arts and our group was reinforced with more people and then we did the town hall we did a number of big activities in Auroville at many levels we reinforced the services of Auroville with a number of helps that we receive at that time it was a very interesting moment and then we remember those years as the golden years for us the presence of Royer was very intense we have many fights at that moment with the community at many levels many people were refusing whatever plans Royer could bring we started our own house in a line of force and again big controversy in many people signature campaign with 100 people again within the first line of force we built a very small part as a research we were attacked from many sides so it was very difficult in spite of everything the presence of Royer but he was bringing the connection with the original vision of the mother I think Royer was transformed for all the years that he spent with the mother was transformed at many levels and it was very interesting to be with him frankly so those years also were very conflictive because within that time we have the big fight of the matrimandir how to finish the matrimandir and then we were in the first line defending Royer defending that the matrimandir will finish according with the ideas of Royer and nobody else and we have like the situation today one year of general meetings and assemblies and discussions to the governing board speaking with the government and coming back at that time we have the presence also in Aroville that's very important the presence of Kiritwai was the chairman of the Aroville foundation was made the chairman and then Kiritwai was another big personality I have known only two big personalities of Aroville I have been for 27 or 28 years I don't know two big personalities that were above the normal Arovilleian standards one was Kirit was above clearly and the other was Royer and in those discussions the attitudes the vision of Kirit was we have to help Royer to finish the matrimandir this was the vision that he took in the middle of all these controversies also and was very important for Aroville because with the weight of the chairman of the foundation and all these things Kiritwai had many people that were were smiling him were in contact with him for many years and then the opinion of Royer was very important and I think that this was a decisive decision to finish the matrimandir according to the vision of Royer ok, so it was finished and all of us we were very happy with this the next episode the next chapter is that then we started to discuss the possibility of making a master plan in Aroville because we didn't have the basic documents for the city and all these so we started to prepare the master plan curiously enough in the year of my new comer period when all these stories started and I was receiving messages from all sides then I wanted to discover what was the opinion of the mother and all these with respect to the city and so finally I went to the archives and then in the archives was the general Tebari that was very kind with me and he told me ok all the things that are here you can come, you can study you can examine and then between the papers I discovered what was called the first master plan and in Aroville future they were telling me well we have a first master plan that Roger made for the mother directly in the 70s or 67 sorry he made this what has been lost we don't have in the office and then I discovered this document in the archives and then I remember that when we started to discuss the master plan and I told them well these document is in the archives I will do a photocopy and I will read to all of you and this happened and was the first document that was taken as a base for preparing the master plan later on so the master plan was another difficult exercise was two three years of discussions and all kind of things finally we sense the community was ok after two three years the main groups of Aroville were telling through all these laborious and difficult process ok we agreed with this draft of the master plan we agreed you have our approval at that time even was not voting in Aroville now is very much infasiom but I have to say in those years I remember very well that we were telling we should not enter in the trap of democracy we should go discuss at that time was quite relevant the concept of consensues we should try to find what is beyond the democracy system and voting and separations and then some people win some people lost and the democracy also has been criticized and then I think at that level we were closer to the original vision let's see we can find something that go beyond the normal systems of democracy in the western country we have had for two thousand years with the Greeks so something beyond that and then all the groups at that moment they started to give support to this and I remember that in one moment we have a meeting the most difficult part was the green belters but the green belters will say they will oppose they will and then through a number of people that were intermediaries between the green belters and the oil future office and all this finally they say ok we are also in agreement with this let's prepare the paper and then we will present to the governing board and to the government of India that moment I remember for me was a moment of release of hope I was thinking well now again of this number of years I think was in 99 when the first master plan was approved so all the difficulties of the past will disappear will be a moment in which all of us we agree with this document we will work together we can go fast towards the future and then again the galaxy will be manifested wow very happy all of us it was received like this unfortunately after the approval because also there were some presions from outside at that moment was not an exercise made without presions external presions were coming to Auroville at that time with the lands what is today the I don't remember the name botanical garden was taken by a person that was playing with the lands and doing business typical and they after they sell the land to us with big benefits for them and everybody was feeling this that the presion the surrounding presion of Auroville was coming to Auroville we were acting fast we will lose even the lands so was and that was we can say the facts that influence very much for us to do this exercise also of the master plan well after the approval of the master plan we were interiorizing the concept that also this can be very important because the two two conflictive aspects who are societies today the green aspect environment and the wilderness the people that we want to develop we can find a common ground a common vision everyone can put the best to integrate the two perspective in only one plan this was the entire idea the entire concept so was we were full of hope for the future soon enough we started to discover that the green beltes were planting trees in areas that were designated and they knew very well for construction and they were planting trees the middle in the ground for example then I was part of the development group at that time and then was the secretary of the group so we call the people of the green belt I remember Glen came and we told him well you are planting the trees out of the areas delimited for for you so this can bring problems in the future when we need to cut it is going to be again so please remain in your areas and not go beyond that well the answer of Glen and we have the records this was that oh look in the future when the development come we don't know if it will come we don't know but at that moment we will cut the trees no problem we will have timber right and at that time we were having discussions in the development group that maybe even will be good to plant all the big areas all the residential zone was without trees in many areas the villagers around this they don't see very positively that the lands remain there for years and years without any kind of activity without any kind of things so the idea was present that maybe we should plant everything after we cut and then we could use all this wood for construction for doing plenty of things in there that was the discussion and then we developed this that after some years in the development group that was a lie a conscious lie this I discovered last year in the 2021 and then okay we say okay let's see we will go at this level and please in the future don't create problems with this fine so they started to plant everywhere and they planted intercity practically over all areas that they knew that could be utilising in the future I think that they planted even more and with good species that after will be very difficult to cut and all these histories at that time we were trusting we didn't want you see one of the always the critic to our oil future the galaxy was that we were very rigid that you are dogmatic you are rigid you are all kind of things so at that time we were we have some members I have to say in the in the oil future at that time that were a little good inclined to okay let's avoid conflicts we have a lot so let's work together okay we trust in the good will when the time comes these people will react well and then yeah it's like to give something a trust in them we will do but have to be done in our will also always everybody is telling that without good will we will not go very far so okay let's be goody goody and then let's approve this even if we don't agree completely but let's try that they will do the necessary when the times come so after all this when the master plan was approved the matrimandir was almost finished I remember one meeting with Royer visiting the matrimandir the area and all this still many things even today are not completely realized according with the plans of Royer and he told us well I think that my work is over, finished I have finished everything we were looking to him with surprise still there are plenty of things that can be done even in the matrimandir there are many details and many and he started to say no no I think my time is over I think I have done in plans everything that has to be done and then I will be more relaxed and this relax if I remember well the times because it's a little confused after one or two years Royer pass away I think that Royer was like sometimes come to my mind these mayes of runners that they are running and then they see that the meta is there to arrive and then with the last forces with a lot of efforts they arrive and they fall when they have crossed the target something like that and then well Royer pass away and then it was a very question big mark what will happen in the future Royer was a force and was a decisive force in some moments in the life of Royer in those years for example I remember when we started with this big project of Asia arts and then Hitler's ok let's start with with the administrative area in the center let's start the project all this was oriented to start with something that the galaxy is central all the administrative area in front of the matrimandid in all these things then at that time was a moment after Royer pass away was a moment of confusion also many people in Aroville saw the opportunity to to change the people that were supporting Royer for many years and then after some episodes and then another group of people came new new planning offices came new people and we then came people that they never supported the galaxy they never supported the main ideas there was a group of architects that never accepted this even I have seen them in videos speaking oh we love the galaxy we love this aspect the other aspect and at the end you remove all these aspects and you don't have a galaxy so it's very clear they sensed the opportunity they came and then they started to do all kind of nonsense at the same time the main ideas that I encountered 27 years ago were like seeds that were planted in the soil of Aroville trees out of place ideas of what to do with the future ideas against cities against galaxies against all kind of things were planted when today we are speaking of these problems and some people say no it's the secretary that has come in the middle of the peace of Aroville and the well working of the groups has created a big disarmony I was watching the other day a video of a call journalist speaking on those terms my experience is not that at all the problems were here for many years from the beginning of Aroville happening here in the form of seed and after many years last year in 2021 I attended a meeting that we were called by a number of people that were going to present big plans for Aroville and in those presentations we criticized the crown and they told we are not going to follow this we want to go in another way and was very well prepared even we told these people congratulations you have made beautiful presentations but the ideas were not so beautiful and then they were putting in question at the end even the master plan because those ideas if you remove the central element of the galaxy that is the crown then you don't have a galaxy you have a number of buildings without any form and without anything I remember also that in one meeting was enough for me I saw everything even years in the future what was going to come and I was completely clear what is organized today because we were speaking we will do a number of assemblies one by one and at the end of these assemblies the community will decide what are we going to do with the city so it was clear crystal clear and I thought well we are going to enter in another chapter of Aroville and we were not so many frankly partisans of the galaxy and continue with the original vision and then they were telling the times have changed and then we have to adapt to the new times and these plans are outdated and then we should enter in another in which the environment will be the king environment now today in the 21st century is the main problem so we should attend this and forget all what ideas of the city and all this I had to I was remembering now for example messages that Roger was passing to us in Aroville's future and to the architects I remember a talk of him explaining that the 20th century was the century of the division between the cities and the environment the Corbusier was a fantastic man all the cities designed for the traffic and all pymans everywhere and some trees here and there but very few that was the model and then Roger was telling us in the 21st century have to come with an integration of the two aspects together the green have to come to the city and the city has to be in the green both have to be well integrated intelligently connected both and to enjoy both aspects and then the galaxy reflects all these aspects everybody knows 60% are green areas and then the city will be there in the middle of the green so then after this presentation we realize of the gravity of the situation and then a number of people that we were concerned with all these four years we started to come together and we created a group that was called universal township and we started to have meetings some Sundays and discussing this and what the other party was going to bring to Aroville and the proposals that they were preparing and we started to react against this I have to say in the moment that they call all of us the organizers and presented these plans for the community at that time there was no governing board was an absence the governing board has finished by the way the current scene that was the chairman of the previous governing board before going out one of the messages that left more many things many there are a number of things to be more precise out of order he was inviting to the next group to do a full investigation he have created some group to start to analyze because he was receiving many many critics of Aroville denouncing a number of aspects that were not clear in Aroville he have received a number and then he pass the message to the other the last decision that they taking the last meeting was I requested that Aroville should do a full investigation I support this idea well in the middle of all these situations the new governing board came and then the secretary came the secretary for some months were discussing with everyone studying Aroville I know that she study all and also the governing board she study everything we were coming from the working groups to have meetings with her I remember very well in one garden of the matrimandir that was called harmony a garden of harmony and he was telling all of us please come and then we were discussing all the topics of Aroville freely in front of her always he come with a notebook and was taking out of everything when the first meeting of the governing board happened and we could read the analysis that they were doing of Aroville that was very critic about Aroville they were telling well Aroville has been paralyzed for a number of years practically is not developing well and then they were entering in all kind of description, critiques and proposals so then one of the critiques that they were doing I think was that they were in support of the originals ideas of matrimandir they didn't want to change that the galaxies outdated and all this they wanted to support all this and then madan jayanti even took one of the big pending developments of Aroville that was the ground and for a number of reasons there was a high tension cable that we could not put on the ground for six years and then sit all again visit all the ground we should go walking all the ground one some day and then we went curiously enough the situation of Aroville was my first time that I could visit the ground completely because in some areas you could not enter the green belters were putting fencing they were putting all kind of things and you cannot come here that was the message I never went was with madan jayanti that for the first time I could walk in all the ground and see everything all the different landscapes all the difficulties all planted all the trees wow so in my opinion the role of this governing board and the secretary has not been that they have created a big mess here and everything was here before everything they played the role of catalyst they were the catalyst they warmed everything with the decisions that they took and then we can say the other part of the community that for years and years has been negating these central aspects of the original vision of Aroville in my opinion they felt strongly that this was going to be a very valuable danger for them and their plans and then they reacted super strongly and then they enter in a dynamic of full confrontation I will say with the governing board and the plans that they are bringing to Aroville I believe also I brought some articles at the beginning of all these stories bringing the best opportunity that they have seen in Aroville in all those years the best we are ready even to invest 1,000 crores we will help you you are in difficulties we support the vision we will help you to manifest the original vision and they are doing and they are doing this so we are now in this difficult chapter a new chapter in the history of Aroville for some people will be new for me it's only the continuation of what I have been living in Aroville from the 1995 nothing new only the expression of this is taking bigger dimensions but everything was here everything all the conflicts were here and only we were in need of a catalyst to burn and to explode and to put everything so I have many friends in Aroville many of them are Spanish the group of Spanish when we came for Aroville was only once and today we are more than 50 and I have had a number of discussions with some of them for many of them all this is new they were living in a relative peace because also the last governing board was not very active in promoting things in Aroville and we are living always all the decisions to be taken by the community and many people were taken as granted this community and this freedom that we have had and all the decisions are taken here but if you analyze the Aroville foundation act is telling very clearly in this act there are powers and functions functions are with the residence assembly they have the function to organize the activities of Aroville but this they will is an advisory body the residence assembly and the working groups of Aroville we are a number of groups we are advisory and then when we took a decision we will pass to the executive power and the executive power is the governing board and then they will decide and this has created another big story in Aroville because many of them always in any society at the end you have myths created not real thinking myths dreams in Aroville is very strong they call the factory of rumors and then the factory of rumors are telling the assembly have all the powers is at the same level than the governing board or the international advisory council we are facing this kind of rumors today is false if you read the act we have the possibility to request to the governing board like this and then they will decide and if we are in good terms within then maybe we can take many things but the attitude of a number of Arovilleans confronting this governing board I think cut many possibilities even of good collaboration and it's going to be a growing confrontation today and then I am clearly on the side of the governing board at this moment clearly and then in these two camps I see that one camp is going free they want to go in the direction of having only in Aroville an environmental project can be the dim forest or can be whatever and then it will be needed a very small number of communities forget the city forget many things this will be another project the project of the mother was to create a city of 50,000 that is not so big and then to have the most advanced experiences in yoga in the city in the city was an instrument absolutely necessary to do this kind of work overall in yoga and here I don't see any reference of yoga when they speak of yoga they speak in very negative terms very derogatory terms we are catalogue and I have received a number of critiques you are a religious person you are dogmatic you are because I am defending the things that from the beginning were in Aroville so ok I accept this kind of critiques it's impossible not to listen to this I am a partisan of the original vision I don't think that we have to renounce that at all if this community decide in the future to go freely without the references of the mother this will be one community more between all the hundreds of communities that were created in the sixties and all of them have gone to the hell all of them and this will be one more so the danger for me without having a very strong position with the mother we will go nowhere we will be annihilated in the future this cold community it will dissolve this community need a team need a very clear target the only thing that can give this kind of cohesion internal cohesion is the mother is the yoga of Aso Arabian than the mother without that we go nowhere ok we are in the middle of this salad and and then even my presence in the working committee that were criticized by many of my friends they were telling you are completely wrong what you are doing is just the opposite of what we need to do now I am absolutely convinced I have no doubt that I have to be in this place I have to defend the original vision of the mother I am there and whatever happen I don't care that is my urinate not completed still some chapters new chapters will come and I have try to narrate a little from the beginning 95 to now today 2022 there is I hope I am seen this as a new opportunity to reset our will this is my inner conviction is a reset and the mother is utilizing the government board the secretary and the secretary is a wonderful instrument to reset and any reset even in the computers is complicated there is one part of information and there are all kind of histories if we take this analogy it is going to be painful it is going to be destructive it is going to be full of conflicts very conflictual time for our will and I think that we were in need of a shaking in our will in this community needed to be shake absolutely convinced and it is coming in this form and I am very grateful for the moments even in spite of all the difficulties my life in our will has been difficult all time by the decision that I was taking well I continue taking the same decisions as in 1995 when I enter in our future I will continue defending the same values, the same targets the same objectives in whatever happen to me is fine