 We found that we were able to make friends quite quickly, even though we were a black family. We were surrounded by all kinds of cultures, Irish, Scottish, English, Yorkshire. And so we learned an awful lot really quickly. For me, the biggest thing that I learned was that I was different. I think because when we moved to England, we moved to a community where the majority were black. And so you didn't really feel it. It wasn't such a sting. But then as soon as we moved from that community into an all-white community where we were the only black kids there, then you really felt it because people looked at you differently. During those times, it meant nothing to call somebody names. N-word got used a lot. And because you're so young, there's nothing you can do. You just have to learn to accept it. So all those things kind of fill up a kind of, not resentment, but a determination to be successful. I knew I was good enough. I always had confidence in my own ability because it was something that I used to get accepted by the kids at school, by the kids in the community. The better I was, the more I became a part of it. They wanted me on their team. I was always first picked and stuff like that. Why is it that football can be used in so many different ways? People kind of respect the fact that you play football. If it's used in the right way, it can be so helpful while solving this racist thing that's been going on for years and it's still going on now. And I think we're in a position where we can use it as a platform to create change. Because that's what happened with me. I realized I can use my position and later on I can explain how I did that to help other black players. Another young black kids who needed to get opportunities and who needed help and assistance and someone to speak to them and encourage them. But when Bradford City for me became alive, it was like, you're right. I felt accepted there by the players, by the fans. And part of the reason I stayed at the club for so long was because of that. I felt as though I was at home, as though I was valued. And neither did I see that many black supporters either. But gradually, you started seeing one or two more. Only because the longer I stayed at Bradford, the more I saw that change of the people who came to watch the games more and more ethnic people were coming to watch the games and eventually more and more black players started being signed by Bradford City. So I just feel as though Bradford, when you look at a legacy in terms of black players and football in general, they can hold their heads up because I think, you know, anyone asked me what my time was like at Bradford City as a black player. As one of the first black players, I can honestly say that I always felt at home and the club understood the importance of them supporting me and they always did that. And that's why I stayed there for so long. I got the confidence and expertise from the Bradford coaches, from the fans giving me that encouragement and self-belief. Because the time I spent there was kind of building me as a person, I think. You know, Darren Moore, when I look at him and I see what he's doing, he played at Bradford. So I'm thinking, them guys must have seen or felt what I felt when I was there. I mean, probably Parade is like in a really cosy little area of Bradford, isn't it? Where as you go down the hill and there's a pub at the top, you know, a real York to start. I think one of the funniest things that, I mean, Bob Davis used to love Bobby Campbell. What a character. You know, and that was something that was always good about Bradford. There's some real characters who played for them. And I remember listening to Bobby Campbell talking about how he loved the Bradford City. And somebody said, but what did you like most about it when you signed to them? He said, the pub at the top of the road. I mean, who would say that? So it really, so when I look at the back players, I've got a list of them. You know, we've got Danny Kadamatri, do you remember him? There's Hamilton, Dylan Motley Henry, who's now a friend of mine's son, who told me when he was a kid, Dylan's dad, Mark Henry, he's a good friend of mine. He said, Dylan's going to play for Bradford one day. And I'm looking at the team sheet and Dylan's names on it. Dylan Motley Henry. And then you've got Ben Richards, Everton Isaac Clayton, Donaldson, Bryce Hosanna. These are all present. I mean, there's about 10 black players who Curtis Guthrie, you know. And then you look down the other list of like when I was there, Joe Cook, Wingrove Manners, I don't know if you remember him. You're too young for that. Then came Darren Moore, Isaiah Rankine, Chris Kamara, Don Goodman, Mackie Wells, Richard Leibard, Jamie Lawrence. He could just go on and on, can't he? It's like, you know, I'm not saying Bradford set out to do this, but what an inspiration for somebody who, you know, who wants to play football and live in that region. And they see all that list and, you know, they know that if they want a chance, and it's, you know, obviously it's down to your ability. But you know you're going to get a chance. You know they're not going to hold you back because of your colour. It just highlights where we are. They give us a month out of 12. And that's what's happening there. One month, that's what we get, you know. And as a black ex-player, you look at it and you say, well, when you look in terms of percentages, there's not even a month of interest in terms of coaches that's represented, if you're looking at percentage-wise, 12%, 1% of, you know what I mean? It's just not enough. And that's how it makes me think. I'm thinking, well, why just give us one month to look at the problems that we have. Let's take a whole year and sort it. And it's something we should be constantly thinking of how can we address this? How can we make this right? How can we create opportunities? But yeah, I mean, I'll take a month. But it's something that should be expanded on, you know. We really need to see change. Not just make it. We need to see it. We need to see change now. We've been talking about it forever and ever, you know. I mean, when I played in, I made my debut in 1970. It's now 2020 and we're still talking about the same thing. It's just not on really. Let's see change. That's all I have to say. I think we need to take a leaf out of Rafa City's books, really. Give the opportunities to a black manager like they did with Chris at Rafa City. Give opportunities to black players like they did with me and look after them and be fair to them, you know. Make it exciting for black managers who, you know, who want to play, to manage in the game when they come out of play, you know. Like Darren Moore, you know. Darren was at Bradford, played his last few seasons there and then went on to manage. Is that Doncaster Rovers now? Yeah, so he must have seen, you know, and learned like I did and be excited about becoming a manager. You know, so they're the things that we need to do. We need to be looking at this. And the reason I can speak up so openly is because I cannot blame Bradford or point a finger at Bradford City or the fans, the way they treated me. It's quite different to the way I got treated when I went to play elsewhere, you know. So I just wanted to thank them for that. But I really want people to understand that it's time for proper change now. It really is time we see a change. There were no more excuses, no more excuses. You know, it's time for change. Simple as that.