 Welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Pocket season 2 episode 67. We got this episode and two more left in season 2, rebooting with season 3 with the first episode of next month. How's everyone doing today? We're going to have a killer show. We got a couple of big topics and then we'll do a Q&A as always. You can super chat in your Q&A questions if you want. You can also change my username for $2 super chat. I don't know about anybody else that's up to them. Beyond all of that, I also want to say that because they're just sitting in front of me, any $10 and $20 super chats, we'll just have some fun. We'll just have some fun. I wish I would have known in advance. I got to get rid of these. They were supposed to be gone days ago. They're still here. So, you know, we'll get super chats, we'll get, we'll get bricked up and then I'll do that on top. Okay. Extra special. All right. Here. You're kinky. I think there's some kinky in there. Yes, there is. There's some fireball. There's some McCarty. There's a rom. I don't know. It's a hot spot. Dude, I thought there was sort of like gift cards. I literally didn't know what you were holding up. You thought that was gift cards. Yes. Dude, from my, you're like so tiny and my thing, those look like you're holding out like a wallet of like, I mean, fair enough. Okay. Cool. Cool. Sounds good. I might just be blind, but. So we've got a pretty patched panel today. No, Andres restart today. He is going to go ahead and take some time and spend with his dad. Watching the Miami Heat. Nice. I'm going to be watching the Bucks and Rewers. I'm just kidding. It's my show. I have to be here. All right. Nobody else has to show up but me. It's one of the podcast episodes where I'm the only one that shows up and I'll be like, well, hi, everyone, we'll try to make this different than my normal stream. Let's, Nate, what have you been playing lately? All right. Me and me. I'm the fill in. I'm the fill in. Yeah. But it'll be a time it'll be a time that no one else shows up and then you're busy and I'll be, oh, jeez, that's what I'll be my life. All right. Let's go around and start the show the way we start every single episode in season two, but what are we in playing lately? Let's go all the way down the furthest away from me, Mr. Mike Odyssey. What have you been playing lately? But oh, and who the hell are you? Because I don't know who you are. Who the heck am I? I am Mike Odyssey. Welcome to the Odyssey. Hit the like, press play. You know, I've never heard that in a long time. Is that retired? You know, I'm actually rewriting it, you know, making it more like, I wanted to sound like a like a WWE entrance video. Yeah. Heck yeah. I'm having, I'm having the song rewritten and then performed by a rock band, like really cool. So that the new intro for the Mike Odyssey show is gonna be like that, like, and then I'm gonna be walking down the aisle like that in the green screen, but the WWE entrance with my belt and everything. That's gonna be cool, Mike. Yeah, I have the budget for that. I'm just I think you're a little bit watching a little too much. WrestleMania. Yeah, I mean, OK, this is the WrestleMania was the best of her one. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy with with the I wasn't on boy until the rock came in and made it better. And then all right, they deserve, you know, the whole thing. So it's good. But the question, the question, who am I? I'm like, I have I have a channel somewhere around the YouTube sphere and it's it's it's there. What I've been playing. I've been getting ready this week. I've been getting ready because I want to start streaming Wind Waker. I have my setup with the with the Wii U here and everything testing up pretend to pretend though and everything because I'm kind of supporting a for support of a pretend they're doing a good job. They're kind of keeping the Bible live with the Wii U. And hopefully, I don't know, something come up in that atmosphere where a third party company can take over the streaming servers for an old console and allow them to, you know, continue living. You know, that could be a good thing. But I'm getting ready for that. And of course, getting ready, still I'm getting the studio ready for the show. But that's that's what I've been doing lately. Nice. Nice. Nice. All right, let's let's go right above you to Sabrina Saffron City TV's back. How are we doing? Who are you and what are you been playing lately? I'm Sabrina, channel name is Saffron City TV. Recently, what I've been doing is I just put out a really big video. So that took me three months to make. And now that I'm not working on a four hour long video, I have been taken easy. I have been slow rad. Like it has been a nice break. And in in the in the interim, I decided to do something that I don't normally do. And in my free time, I decided to check out a new app game. Yeah, I don't usually play mobile games like almost. I do Pokemon sleep just because I like being able to track my sleep. And it's kind of fun. But outside of that, I don't do app games. But I thought it would be fun to give Fire Emblem Heroes a try. And I really addicting it is fun. And I'm just trying to broaden my horizons on Fire Emblem because I fell in love with it very recently. And yeah, I've just I want to I want to play more Fire Emblem. But in the meantime, outside of that, I do Pokemon stuff. And I've been doing so much Pokemon lately that I just need a break. So Fire Emblem Heroes is what I've been doing recently, as well as I think this week, I'm going to try to build a Gundam, a gigantic master grade Gundam. And so that is going to be in the work for this week if I can fit it into my spare time. Pretty cool, pretty cool. That's awesome. That's awesome. All right, let's go ahead and go over to, you know what, Eric, you're just kind of sitting there. What are you been playing lately? I'm currently playing Tears of the Kingdom. And who are you? Yeah, I'm Eric. I'm just here. I'm just here. He's literally right now. You can hold up a switch and show you maybe. Listen, I'm currently playing it right now in the podcast. Yeah, that's right. I'm finishing up one quest and then I'm done. You're just trying to shut up at the beginning of the show. We all know what's going on. I talked already. Did you get all the wells done? Yes. Oh, baby. I am in the middle of quest hunting now. Heck, yeah. There we go. All right, let's go ahead and hop on down to Nintentalk, an animal crossing 2026. First off, who the hell are you? What are you like? It's kind of happened, dude. No, I'm Patrick from Nintentalk. I've been playing, of course, very manly games. Super Princess Peach Showtime. It was good. I thought it was a good game. I feel like the demo did not do that game justice. When I played the demo, I was like, this is a baby game. And then when I beat it, I was like, this is a cool baby game. I don't know. The demo was kind of weird for that. And then I'm randomly playing Let's Go Eevee. Anyone remember this controller? I have one. Yes. Yes, I do. And I lost the Mew I had on it. Yeah, that's David. How did you lose the Mew? Because I restarted the game and totally forgot that the Mew was in the controller. Yeah, you can only do it once, right? Yeah, me sure can. I'm so jealous. Yeah, I do still have it. So yay, I wish I had it with me. So yeah, that's what I've been playing. Go. Thank you. Let's hop on over to Jake Randall. Mr. Albrecht up, who the hell are you and what are you been playing? What the fuck is up, YouTube? It's your boy, the two-inch destroyer. And I really haven't been playing shit, to be honest. I played those games two weeks ago, those party games. The, oh, I forget what it was called now. Do you remember the one? Oh, what the dub? What the dub? Which was so much, it sounds fun, but it's so much more fun than it actually sounds. It's such a good game. It's only $8 on the eShop. So if you have any friends at all, you should get it. And if someone say no. That would be weird. What are you feeling like at that timing, Eric? And yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm gonna keep it short and sweet. All right, let's see, let's go on over to Thunder. Steve, 85, who the hell are you and what have you been playing lately? What's up, guys? I'm a self-proclaimed lifelong gamer. What have I been playing lately? Well, first off, I have a channel on YouTube, of course, Thunder Steve, 85 Gaming. Been playing a lot, guys. I got sucked in and I knew I would. I just didn't know that it would go to the extent that it has with Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Like my life has stopped for this game. It's been wild, but it's been a great time. I put in like well over 200 hours on the game. It came out. I just played through Contra, shattered soldier for the first time in over 20 years. I'll be reviewing that. Playing to start Princess Beach Showtime, that's next up. I'm working on editing a video where I unbox about 90 games. Okay. It's insane. You've just been like really relaxed and not busy at all. Holy shit, dude, I know. I got a... You guys know that company, Nixie, that made the Wizard controller? Oh, yeah, yeah, that Chinese company or whatever. Yeah, they reached out to me and sent me some controllers to review. So I'm working on that. I'm gonna try and play it with Peach. That's the one. I got another company that sent me a gaming projector to review. Is that the one that looks like the GameCube controller? What was the other name? Yeah, I have one over in my office and then I got this one right here that's like RGB lights up and all this stuff. Yeah, they just sent me that one. Okay, yeah, so I have the Wizard one. I had bought that just myself when it came out maybe a year ago because I actually liked it. And so when they reached out to me, I was like, oh, cool, I actually like you guys. This is nice. I'm gonna give you some free stuff. They sent me the Wizard and Black and Silver and in purple. And last year for me to do a review and haven't done it yet. You haven't done it yet? No. Oh man. They sent me the same one, but now you can attach it. You can add it to your, you know, the one you have there, the last one. Yeah. It looked at the same ones, but with different names. Interesting. Hmm. Interesting, right? Yeah. They rebranded the controller, maybe? Yeah, maybe this one's called the Hyperion Pro. And I know they had a model before called the Hyperion. Yeah. And I was doing it side by side to figure out what the differences were. And I couldn't really find any differences. Of course you could. I don't know. I don't know what's happening. I don't know, man. That's what I've been up to. Awesome. It's been fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yep. I, let me see, what have I been playing lately? Well, let's see. I've been working on Age of Empires 4. After all, we built the streaming PC, but hey, look, it can game too, all right? So nice that I can run that game when my laptop couldn't. So I was having some fun just redoing the campaign. Well, the first campaign that I did, I've already done before. Now I'm ready to move on to some campaigns I haven't done. So it's gonna be fun. And then I'll probably eventually do some multiplayer with it. A little bit of Madden, only one game because my league apparently is dying, but I did win. So I mean, look, a dub's a dub. I'll take it any day of the week. And then on Switch, you know, I didn't do a whole lot. I've been playing a little bit of Fortnite on it lately, which I know isn't like the greatest thing to be playing. But I also played a little bit of Mario Galaxy as well from 3D All-Stars. Been a while since I played that one. Found out that I really do not like that game with the Pro Controller at all. Joy-Cons are fine. Pro Controller, no. Because they make you use the right stick to move the cursor around. Oh, no, no, they make you use the motion control. And I'm trying to motion control the whole controller while doing things. When I Wii, it was split. Oh, yeah. One and you with the other. So it's fine if you're using split Joy-Cons because they basically just mimic the Wii, but yeah. I don't know. I haven't figured it out. But I might finish that one up on my own because I think there might be a way so it like auto picks up star bits, but I can't remember. I do know that I 100% completed Galaxy on Switch. And then to 100% it, you have to beat it with Mario. Yeah. And then beat it with Luigi to unlock the last level. You have to 100% it with both characters to actually 100% it. I really don't like the way it is. I don't like the way it is. Maybe there's a way in the settings to change it. 100% it. I remember I did it. But I don't remember which control layout I used. Yeah. Now that you say that. Yeah. Obviously, off the top of my head, I have no idea. But I'll look through the settings or something. To 100%, you have to get like the maximum amount of stars on like all the super hard levels. So I remember some of them, like the end ones, especially with Luigi, cause he's so slippery, like being really hard to do. And now I can't remember at all. If I did have a Joy-Con, it's your approach control. I will say, I am reminded how good Galaxy is though. It's just a damn thing. Oh dude. Yeah. When I 100% of it, I just like fell in love again. Yeah. I do need Galaxy 2, but sadly I don't think we're getting Galaxy 2 on Switch anyways. Mike over here has proven a point, I think. It's proven more than enough. That's all he's proven. That's all you need. Yeah, it's not focusing now. So let's go ahead and get into our very first topic because look, it's a bit of an interesting week because the Wii U and 3DS online servers are gone, the official Nintendo ones. Nintendo network has been shut down. Some people are a little more upset than usual because on Nintendo's own website, it says you can maintain access to your DLC and downloads even after the shutdown. But if you have Smash Bros on 3DS, you cannot download your DLC anymore because it requires you connecting to the eShop which you can't access. So it's very frustrating for some people in regards to that because it's a broken promise from Nintendo where they didn't actually make sure everything still functioned that they promised would still function. But that being said, it is shut down and a new network has been around since 2018. So it's not that new. Pretendo network's been around for a bit. Previously you could only access it if you had a modified and hacked 3DS and Wii U. Turns out they had a Wii U hack that they've been holding back until the network shut down so Nintendo couldn't release an update to patch it out that allows you to just change your DNS settings on Wii U and connect to their network so you can still play all your online matches. I can't use Miiverse, unfortunately, anything that uses a web browser doesn't work. So the YouTube app doesn't work, Miiverse doesn't work, TV doesn't work. But you can use Miiverse messages in games, also things like Tingle Bottles and the Wind Waker work and stuff like that. So a lot of that's really cool that at least for like Wii U users that don't want to modify literally you can just change some DNS settings and still be able to play multiplayer with your friends if they also do it. That being said, obviously we already knew this was coming. Nintendo announced it a long, long time ago. So what I really want to focus on instead, well, actually, first let's talk about the Pretendo network. Are you guys happy this thing exists? Like is it positive for everyone? Yeah, I think so. I think it's a net positive. Yeah, I remember a long time ago, I was talking about, I was talking to somebody about, what if there was this big company that could just take over the servers from a world console and still offer at least online capabilities to a console for people to continue to play, right? And so it's good because it kind of inspires people who don't have a Wii U. If I use one, get the games and then continue to play online with their friends and stuff like that. So it's pretty cool. And then I've tested it, it works beautifully. At least what matters, which is playing online with your friends, Mario Kart and all these games that actually require online play or multiplayer, it actually works pretty good. So I did the DNS one and it works pretty good. I'm happy with it. That's awesome, man. Yeah, I haven't used it yet, but I also don't have a Wii U or 3DS anymore and I haven't for a long time, sadly. They're cheap, man, they're cheap. Yeah, I'm sure they're cheap, but I'm like... I gotta interrupt you for a second because someone in your chat, and they're a member too. They're saying Wind Waker HD looks ugly. What? I might need to lay the smacketh down. Yeah, you have a... I don't think Wind Waker could ever look ugly. I think you'll grab a specific version of it when Wind Waker can look ugly. No, I can see... I'm just fighting words. There's too much bloom, but that still doesn't make the game ugly. No, yeah. Wind Waker has always been a beautiful game, even back in the GameCube days. You just had to stand up for it, sorry. Yeah, I don't blame you. I haven't read the chat yet, so... Oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. I'm going back and back. Things are getting nasty in the chat right now. Come on, chat. Keep it clean. Keep it clean. Keep it clean, boys. All right, so... I'm Daisy now. Wait, the guy says the original looks 1,000% better. That doesn't make any sense. You know, I mean... So he thinks Wind Waker on GameCube looks amazing, but Wind Waker HD looks like trash. I mean, it did look amazing for its time. Yeah, it did look amazing for its time. They both look good, yeah. Yeah, it's in the eye of the holder, I guess. Yeah. No, I'm not saying the one on GameCube doesn't, but how can you say that one looks good, but the HD version doesn't? Maybe they just, like, read those things. It's the same guy. So I just don't get it. I don't get it. This is why I just don't read the chat. I don't worry about it. Sorry, I was starting to go. Love you guys. That's how Nate feels about you guys, just so you know. Chat's in the pocket. Look, I'm my image in what? We got seven people on this total. I got a lot of things to focus on here. All right. So set aside, pretend, though, what I wanted to kind of do with this topic, because obviously, you know, there's not much to really say about the network shutdown. Sucks happens. Sort of a modern era gaming thing. This is going to happen all the networks someday. So what I want to focus on is actually what are our favorite memories from the Wii U and 3DS? And let's actually start with the least popular platform, the Wii U. What are some of our, like, favorite games and memories that we have from that particular platform? And I know a lot of those games have come to Switch. I know. I'm aware. But some of us actually played those games back when they actually came out. And there's games for Wii U that aren't here. You know, but Chronicles X. So why don't we start with Eric, which should be pretty simple. There's only really one game you played on it. Mario. Mario Kart. Oh, yeah. Mario Kart 8. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Hannah, Mario Kart 8. You helped me 100% the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the DLC. God, that was a long time ago. Yeah, that was a little tiny part right back. Yeah. Wow. Yep, that's pretty much it. Yeah, that's literally all we played on that one game. Yep. And he helped me 100% it, too. It was crazy. Look at whatever Mario one was on there. A little bit of it. Oh, was it the Mario was you? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think you helped me. Because you and Yulia, we beat the game. But I couldn't quite 100% it with her. And then you came in and stepped in and pushed it off. Yeah, no. Eric's a bit of a completionist when he plays games. And if I'm trying to 100% something, oh, he'll be sure it gets 100% or it's happening. Your place? Your place? The completionist on the channel. In the app. I love the game with the 10-foot pole. OK, yeah. I don't know what you're doing right now. Yeah, I'll go next. I remember not having the console and not even knowing it exists until like halfway through its life. And then I heard about the switch in my life again. So that's funny, Yulia. I, too, did not have a Wii U. I wanted one because I was almost positive that we were going to get an Animal Crossing game on it. Because it had been so long. The greatest Animal Crossing game ever made. Hold on. Hold on. I will get there. But yeah, no. I could have swore that New Leaf had been out for so long. And I could have swore we were going to get an Animal Crossing game. And I wanted a Wii U for when that day came. And then they did come out with an Animal Crossing game. And it was the only bad Animal Crossing game they've ever made. Amiibo Festival? Yeah, Amiibo Festival. And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, it took you a while to come out. Look how they massacred my boy. Good idea of bad execution. Yeah. I don't know. Terrible take, honestly, Sabrina. Yeah? I respect you, but I respect you a little less now. OK, Jake. You ready to smash Bro's brawl? I'm ready to. No, we're going to settle this civilized people over Amiibo Festival. Well, you're going to have to. You're going to have to buy a Wii U, and you're going to have to buy a Wii U for me too, because I don't have one. It's pretty cheap. It was my link in the description. McCurry, it's an affiliate link, $50 for Wii U, whole set, and everything. So you know. I don't know, man. Anything Wii U can do? Switch it and do better. Yes, for that, sorry. Well, actually, all right, Sabrina, I was obviously being sarcastic about Animal Crossing, but I will disagree that anything the Wii U can do, the Switch can do better because. I disagree too. The Wii U had a feature that the Switch can't match, which is the dual screens. And having one thing on the gamepad will have one thing on the TV. And a few games took really good advantage of that. Wii U. I'm going to not name all of them because I'm sure there's a couple of them that I think other people will probably want to say. So I'm going to leave those. But one game I don't think anyone will say is Shin Megame. Tensei? Tensei. It's like Sharp F.E. It's like the Fire Emblem. Oh, the Fire Emblem, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so if you like Fire Emblem, Sabrina, I mean, that would be one. It's on Switch, but here's the thing. I played it on Wii U. And then I actually streamed it on my channel when it came out for Switch because I liked it so much on Wii U. And it is so much better on Wii U. And the main reason why is when you're playing the game, when you're playing it on the Wii U, the gamepad is your character's cell phone. So you're playing the game and uninterrupted, like when you're game playing, when you're moving on the screen, like you wouldn't like Persona. It's more like Persona in the exploration and like Fire Emblem kind of in the battles. Yeah. But when you're playing on the gamepad, when you're playing the game on the Wii U gamepad, the Wii U is your character's cell phone. So you're getting text messages from other characters like it was actually on a phone. And it was such a cool and immersive thing. And it's cool that like you don't have to go into a menu to do it. You can just literally like check your phone by like looking down whenever you want, like get these text messages. And there's other interactive stuff. And when I played it on the Switch... Oh, no. Oh, come back. Come back. Oh, there you are. Oh, sorry, did I cut out? Did I cut out? Yeah, restart that statement. Okay, so when you're playing it on the Wii U, it doesn't make the game like worse. Or when you're playing on the Switch, it doesn't make the game worse over... Oh. Oh, no. Like it's not the worst. The Ninjas are out there. The Ninjas are out there. All right, I'm gonna say this. It's less immersive on the Switch, which makes it less fun. Okay. Well, you know, I guess I can understand we're having like a screen here and a screen on the TV can actually be really fun. I could see that. And I could see it being more... And also it was cool to play DS games on the Wii U as well. Oh, sure. You could play DS games on the Wii U? Yeah. Yeah, they had it on the E-Shop on the Wii U. Like how like the... Oh, on the Wii-Shop. Okay, I got you. Yeah. Or on the E-Shop. Not the Wii-Shop. The Wii U E-Shop. Yeah. They had virtual console games. They're cool. They had a lot of them. Oh, okay. Well, that's cool. Anything that allows you to like play older games on it, I think it's really awesome. So I can see how that could be enjoyable for sure. Yeah. So Miiverse is 38% completed. They're working on it. It was good. And to answer some questions on the chat, there's only like a handful of games you can play online that are 100%, but they're working on adding some more. Just Ironfall Friends? Is this Friends? Like the actual show Friends? Steel Driver, Mario Kart 7, Kid Icarus, Team Kirby Clash. Next. Sue Maramaker, Mario 8. Mario Kart 7 was a 3DS game. Mario Kart 8 is a Wii U game. Yeah, Mario Kart 7 is there. A 3DS. Yeah. Pokken Tournament works. Five Force Heroes. Pigment 3. Pokemon Rumble Word. Splatoon. Spoon Mario Maker. And something. Oh, they're working. Yeah. Their version of Miiverse is called Juxt's position. Juxt's celebrity blip. I don't know. It's there. Let's work. It's almost done. Cool. Yeah. It's on the website. If you go to, what's that place? Pretendo.network. It shows a list of what the games are compatible and how compatible are they in the percentage? Like 100%, 50%, whatever. Pretty cool. Okay. All right. Yeah. It's the future. I have great memories with the Wii U. I still own one. Still play it sometimes. Tokyo Mirage Sessions. That's the game you were talking about, I think. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. I think there was just a lot of personality with that console. Like the menu had like little moving icons and stuff. The eShop had like music playing and like they would change the music. And I don't know. I just felt like it had a lot of personality. My favorite games were Captain Toad, Splatoon, and Hot Take, Star Fox Zero. And I know that's like, wow, a game people talk bad about, I just feel like if you play it enough and you kind of like train yourself to look at the two screens, like I felt the magic of the Wii U in that game. Like that, like I got it. I will say this. I have always kind of wanted to play the original Splatoon and that I think was a Wii U exclusive title. So it never came to Switch, right? Splatoon 2 came to Switch? Yeah. Okay. So yeah, I really did want to play the original Splatoon because it always looks really cool to me. I did play Splatoon 2 and Splatoon 3, but you know, I don't know if y'all ever get like FOMO about like you starting like a newer game. And then you're like, I kind of want to go back and play the old ones too. The old Splatoon kind of. And I mean, I know that there's, I'm sure that it's not as, I don't know. I mean, with recency bias, I don't know if I can say that it would be as good as the second or third one, but I still bet it's a ton of fun. Yeah, to a man, a man. So do you own Splatoon 3, by the way, Sabrina? Do what? Do you own Splatoon 3? Yeah. So there's a rumor out there. I'm not sure. I'm way behind because I know I've been reading of the leaks and stuff. They're adding maps. I'm pretty sure they already added the Splatoon 2 maps to 3. And then in future updates, there's no one coming where they're going to add Splatoon 1 maps. Didn't they add a couple Splatoon 1 maps like for maybe like the Splatfest or something? They did, right? Am I crazy? How long ago was this? Or didn't they add Splatoon 1 maps? I mean, I read they did add, I like five months ago, so I'm not sure if it was. Yeah. Because I could have sworn I remember playing on one. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I don't recognize this. This is new, but I thought it was a Splatoon map from Splatoon 1. There you go. Was it originally they added the maps? Or they've been around? I don't think so. I think it was a little bit ago. Okay. I just really like the characters from Splatoon 1. I liked the original 2 idols. I thought that they were really cute. So that is one thing. I guess I do kind of have a little bit of FOMO from the Wii U days is, I guess I did kind of miss out on Splatoon 1. No, you didn't. You can still go back and get it. We use a link in the description. Okay, the 50% off from a carry. And then by Wii U and then use a Nintendo. I do feel like there's a lot of like false nostalgia for the Wii U that like the games were good, but a lot of people talk positively about it now, which is great, I guess. But like, man, if you actually had a Wii U, you were waiting like six months in between games. Like, and then the game would finally come out and it'd be like scribble knots. And you'd be like, well, I gotta wait again. So like, I did like the Wii U, but we are spoiled now. We're getting like a major game every month, it seems. So that's one thing I will say, like not to be a downer here, but yeah. But I agree with you. That's the reason why we're so like, right now we're like hyperbillaming with Nintendo. Where are you? Where are you? We're like seeing our Nintendo fix. April is the first month we haven't gotten the game in such a long time, you know? So we're like, where's the game? You know, like, oh no, wait, Nintendo's getting ready for this too. So we try to convince ourselves that something is happening when maybe nothing is happening at all. Which is really. Thunderstache. Yeah, I agree. I like that, that's good, that's good. I like that. I agree, I definitely agree to that. His body is ready. Yeah, his body's ready. You know, I have to agree with all of you guys. So I got a, I got Wii U on day one. Launch day, I've got every Nintendo system on launch day since the N64 back in 96. The release schedule was awful, guys. Awful, droughts were nonstop. Worse than the N64 at times. And if you remember the N64, man, we got three games. Like within the first month, we had Mario pilot wings and then Wave Race. And then it was weeks or months for the next new games. And Wii U was very reminiscent of that. But I enjoyed it, I still enjoyed it. Favorite games, Xenoblade, Twilight Princess and Wind Waker HD, Smash Brothers, Mario Kart. We played a ton of Mario Kart. We also 100% of that, that was great. The shirt I'm wearing, DuckTales remastered. Nice. Huge fan of DuckTales. Super Mario Maker, guys. Well, go ahead. I think Super Mario Maker had to have been highly innovative for its time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's way better on the Wii U. It is. That's actually the best platform to play it on. Right. Another example of two screens making actually a real game. You actually got to move stuff here and then. Yeah. Super Mario Maker seems like it would be perfect, like literally perfect for the Wii U. Like, I think that game was really made for the Wii U in terms of that console. So quick question for Thunderstache. Listen, you had the Wii U day one. Do you think do you think that the reason why the Wii U was so scarred between games is because it was basically fully backwards compatible with the Nintendo Wii. And so there was that big library behind it. The people, maybe Nintendo was like, you know what? They have they have games to play. They haven't played this game, go play it, whatever. Try to push sales for Wii games on the Wii U. And so that that's why maybe they didn't really they wouldn't push so many games at once with Nintendo Switch. It wasn't compatible with Wii U. And so that's what we got all the ports and then we got all the stuff going on begin with. So you think that had to do anything to do with it? I think that could be part of it. I do think Nintendo is probably banky gone their entire install base. Yeah. Transitioning over to Wii U. But obviously we all know what happened there with the with the naming. Yeah. And the num chucks too. Everyone was confused. I had friends back in the day asking me if I'm getting a Wii U and what it is. Nobody knew what it was, man. Yeah. In my in my case, I'm like you. I'm I'm an 80s kid. So I've had on every Nintendo console, but the Wii U. The reason why I got didn't get the Wii U is because I didn't get the commercial. I'm like, what is this? Am I buying a patch for it? I don't need it. You know, I thought so. I saw the same exact Wii remote and I saw the little nunchucks that went along with it. And then the only thing I saw differently because even the system kind of looked the same on TV was the actual this thing was they put it on the floor and then it looked like I can't stop it. What did you do? I can't stop it. If I hit that button, it just keeps going until it's done. My bad. It looks like an accessory to me. This this I'm like, I'll get it later. That's what I said. I'll get it later. And that's that's part of the problem too is that the Wii had so many accessories, right? Like tons. A lot of accessories I would never even consider buying. You know, like shovelware crap accessories. Yeah. So I think when the Wii U did come out and they're showing a commercial for it, it just looked like another accessory for the Wii. Like a balance like the Wii balance board, right? Yeah. Like that system had more accessories I've ever seen for any console. I think we can all pray agree on that. I'm sure if we looked it up, that's what it would be. So yeah, yeah, there's a lot of issues, man. A lot of issues with the Wii U, but it had some good games. It just wasn't many. It really was not. Yeah. That's why I'm like, I'm hearing the rumors of like Switch 2 being called Switch Attached with two screens. And I'm like, are we just going back to the past again? Like there's no way this is going to happen. I know. I really don't want them to botch the name. I think we can all go say that. Yeah. The only thing I was talking about Switch Attached thing was that the Switch OLED name was actually leaked in the exact same way from YouTube, but. Yeah. Hmm. So Wii U, like man, Zombie U is one that always stood out to me. And that was really close to launch. Dude, fantastic game. And like, I know they ended up porting it. It was an Ubisoft game. They ended up porting it to other platforms, but it was so much better because of the gamepad. Because like, you had to hack doors to get in. And the whole point of it being on the gamepad is you're supposed, if you're in real life doing this with the zombies coming at you, you got to focus on trying to hack while also realizing that you're going to be getting attacked from the side. And the TV has that side view where you're sitting there on the thing trying to hack and deal with the zombie. It was crazy and insane. There was a whole bunch of different uses they had in the game for it. It was just a very, the thing about the Wii U always remembers is a very unique concept that was never really going to be mainstream. I just could tell from the outset that it was never going to be like, people have a problem. I mean, look, there's people that come to my house and they see me with two monitors for PC and they think that's weird. Like, how can you look at both monitors? It's like, well, I mean, look, if you're a programmer, I look at one and one, I look at the other one, obviously. You're gonna cross-eyed, dude. Cross-eyed, by the way. You're gonna cross-eyed when you do it. So like, no, you go wide-eyed and then alternate between cross-eyed. You have to be able to control one eyeball at a time. If you can't do that, just forget playing on two screens. You just don't have the skills. You got to get good, bro. You got to get good. You got to get good, yeah. Otherwise Sabrina's on the phone. She gets it. So whenever I see that people that aren't super into computers or into gaming don't understand how I can have two different monitors and multitask better, it made me realize that at a general consumer level, they're not really gonna get two screens. Now, obviously there's other reasons that we wasn't super successful or anything, but look, there are things I miss about it. Even in the Zelda games, we choose it in the most basic way for inventory management. I mean, that's what a ton of games just use the Wii U gamepad for. Even that was technically still better than having to bring up a menu on your TV. And some games let you do it on the fly while you're still playing. So you'd be on the screen tapping and dragging a gun in while you're still running around and trying to shoot people. That was really cool. The Wii U holds a very unique place in my heart. And the thing about the system is, Nintendo didn't deliver the games consistently all the time. The games they did bring though were just fantastic. Really only Star Fox Zero was like an Amiibo festival. Sorry, Jake. Those are the only two games that didn't really hit with me as much as that. And Star Fox maybe would have, if they would have cut out the whole tank, rover and troll thing, that was dumb. It wasn't even fun. But I just had a lot of fun with a lot of the games. I mentioned it before, I'm going to say it again. Xenoblade Chronicles X is still stuck on that platform. And it kind of makes me mad because it's a platform that wasn't successful. And yet the Xenoblade franchise is clearly successful to have two brand new games and the definitive edition on the Nintendo Switch. We need to get this game off of there. It plays a little bit different than the other Xenoblade games. And it is amazing. And I know there's apparently from interviews or some sort of internal strife where certain directors didn't like X. I don't really give a crap. Let's get this thing off that platform. I love that game. It's amazing. And some people still think it's the best looking Xenoblade game today. So I mean, I think it really makes sense for that to be one of the last ports. Yeah. A swan song thing for the Switch. Or maybe like kind of like a, even when the Switch 2 or whatever it's called comes out like a cross gen title. What are you losing at Nate? I love my new nickname. I love my new nickname. I didn't even have the mind to add them together like that. That freeman. Y'all, my new nickname is the best. That guy's good at nicknames. 10 out of 10. I don't know. I think I come in second to Thunderstance. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You call me Debrix and I don't like hate it, but come on. Want something cool? That sounds like a lie. Look at this. Look at this. Daisy. No, I didn't. It was just. Yeah, but like the Odyssey. Well, let me let me tell you something about. Let me tell you something about Daisy. OK, I'm going to tell you something about Daisy. If you were a girl back in the day and you were fortunate enough to play video games and you knew who Daisy was, your favorite was always Daisy. If you're a girl, your favorite was never Peach. Your favorite was always Daisy because she was the cool one. She was like the more tomboy like one that didn't always wear pink and have blonde hair. She was she was the champion for brunette girls everywhere. And so let me tell you, man, Daisy was every girl's favorite. Peach was all the boys' favorite. Yeah, I got you. Warrior, right? Yeah, heads, baby. For I'm Daisy and me and Daisy, we have the same hair color. So I like Daisy. You can't tell. But like, I don't know if you can tell. I have a very, very small. I'm not ginger yet. I wish I was. I wish I was ginger because I don't have the hair as gorgeous. But I do have a very small amount of red naturally in my hair. I didn't say it because I thought someone else would bring it up. But was no one else a fan of Nintendo Land? Dude, that game rocked. I like it. I have it still. There's a channel on Nintendo Land. That was like the sports level good. Like there was that took advantage of the game pad in so many ways. Yeah. There were like many games, right? But like that was a great packing game. Like that was like the Wii Sports or the Wii U. I would I won't say it's better. But in some ways, it kind of was. But it was way better than any of like the these weren't even packing. But for the Switch, they had one to switch. It was so much better than that. And you could buy it on its own for like five bucks, too. Who played this as a pack in? Yeah. They have one of those right? What is that? Yeah. Is that any of those games? It's it's really cool. Actually, they did. So this is they made one, I think, on 3DS, because on the back here, it says it includes NES remakes one and two. OK. Yeah. Is that a collection of NES games? It's not how we switch online on some of the games. Our name throws it again. Well, let's explain it. Steve, you explain it. Yeah, it's trash. It's sort of like it's got some warrior wear vibes for Nintendo, like you have challenges. It's more fleshed out than the warrior wear mini games. But it's similar concepts in that it's not like full NES games on here. It's different challenges, mini games using like the actual engines from these NES games. It's pretty interesting. And of course, you know, being 80s kids. Yeah. When you when you see this come out, you're like, oh, shit, I got to get this. Right. Can I just say thank you to Justin? I think it's Basil or is it Basil? I'm not sure. But it's Basil. It's Basil. He's out for a year now. And then I joke about about how close it is to Basil when it came up when we were talking about food. And he's like, it actually is Basil. I'm like, we're going to try to get here. Dude, Justin Basil is coming. It's just coming up with the best nicknames. I swear, they are so good. We all have such cool names in the beginning of the stream. You put in a bunch of brick up emojis in the chat. So you're my guy. Yeah, he's got a talent for nicknames, clearly. I was going to ask you, though, about Pretendo, like Nintendo seems to kill the fun. And do you think they're going to step in and squash? The good thing about it is that it's not emulators and it's not emulating anything is just providing a server to gather. So it's not like they're promoting ROMs or providing emulators or it's just a server. So I don't know. The way for systems to connect together because almost everything in 3DS and Wii U is peer-to-peer, so you just need a server to connect people. I think they'll leave it a lot like it's been around for a long time. And apparently there's they claim Nintendo is aware of them. I don't know how they would know. Maybe they've been in contact with someone to go on Harris or something. But I think because there's no way for Nintendo to lose money with this. They'll probably leave it alone. I think they'll leave it alone, too. Well, and I don't think anybody is like, who knows? Nintendo might just say screw you guys. You can't have Pretendo fun. And then I mean, so we do what? Ten million over there is like, Nintendo look faster. I know. I'm not. Actually, yeah, that's exactly what you're doing. No, actually, I have a hard stop at 10. Yeah, I have a Doc's appointment in Boston in the morning. I'll be here full amount of time next week. I did miss the Red Sox game and Jackson holidays. Major League debut to be here on the show. So it sounds like under three started a little punk. They've been the same team all year. But yeah, I'm I have Red Sox ticket for the entire first two months of the season. So I'll be OK. But yeah, I will be back next week. Love you guys. It was good to see you, Jake. Thanks, Sabrina. Never give up. All right, Chad, stay bright for me. I can't do it anymore, Mike. And did you guys know that the Sega Dreamcast? You can still play Fantasy Star online online. What? On the Dreamcast? Yeah, it's gasp. So it's so you know, in the childhood with that one. I know it's classic. So it gives me hope, though, that, hey, you know, obviously, Nintendo is crazy when it comes to using any other stuff. Yeah, it's just the fact that the Dreamcast is still online. And I think it's a similar model, right? Is it peer to peer? So I got to imagine this should be good to pretend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's cool that somebody is keeping Nintendo online services alive because there's just so many people that love it and actually will utilize it. So I'm glad somebody's doing it. That's I mean, I can't expect Nintendo to keep the servers going until like the end of time, you know? So like I don't blame them, but I am really glad that Pretendo is is doing something about it and keeping it alive. I mean, it's a small community. It's a small community. The only soul 10 million systems, plus all the systems that are out there for sale discount those. So you have a little small niche community that are just having fun with each other. So, you know, and this is going to be like the height of it, too. Like it just, you know, it's down. So like people are trying to play it, like give it a few months and it'll be real. It did. Did any of you guys and gals ever play Breath of the Wild on Wii U? No, because I have it right here and I made a point to buy this maybe a year ago on eBay. Because, of course, I got Breath of the Wild on day one switch and just like Twilight Princess. Everybody played it for the most part on the Wii, but, you know, it's also on GameCube. And I have the GameCube version as well, because I think both those games are probably going to be rare as time goes on. Yeah, I was going to say, is it still sealed? No, it's not sealed. The sealed ones were very expensive. There's a lot of great at ones on eBay being sold for, you know, of course, an absurd amount, which it's not worth it to buy anything graded at this point. Like, I mean, if you can get your hands on one that isn't graded, that's in pretty good condition. That's the only time I would buy. I wouldn't buy anything graded right now. Everything's so expensive. I agree. I agree totally. And I actually kind of wanted it to not be sealed because I'm like, you know what, there's going to come a time right where I want to play Breath of the Wild again. And I want to do it later in life to where I forget everything. So it feels like a fresh experience. And then so the next time I do dive into it, I still have my Wii U. So I plan on playing it on Wii U. And I got to imagine that, obviously, like the Wii, the Wii U controller is going to be pretty nice for Breath of the Wild, the inventory management, using the map, like figuring out where all the shrines are on the map instead of having to press pause. So I have bad news for you. What? Does it sound like? The gamepad is not used at all. It is. No, it is shocking. Like, because I I plan to do the same thing. I plan it and it was like made for the Wii U and I don't get it. Really? So they don't do anything with the gamepad. Like I'm pretty sure it stays blank or you could like, you know, go to off TV play. It's such a weird thing. Like, I don't know why they did it. Like did Nintendo think people would buy the Wii U version instead? I just so weird. I don't like that. That feels icky. That feels wrong. Like, why would you make it for the Wii U and then not use the Wii U functionalities? That makes that makes about as much sense as as a none in a strip club. I don't understand that. But it's it's similar. Like the the only thing is, you know, maybe graphically, it'll look a little, you know, worse compared to the switch. And like, I think performance is a tiny bit worse. But yeah, I mean, it's a full. But I was bummed to do when I found out because I was searching like Wii U or Wii U gamepad like functionality and it was like nothing. So what you're saying is that this listing for the while Wii U for like 10 bucks, I shouldn't get it. Not cool. I still think it's going to be collectible. Yeah, I would still get it. I do want to say I do want to say something. I do want to piggyback off of what you said earlier, Thunderstache, and I know that that's not your name, but it's the most epic. I like it. I'm just going to refer to you as that. I I want to piggyback off of something you said. You said that you want to replay games when you're older so that you don't remember them anymore and play through them again. It's like a fresh play through. I got to tell you, I was thinking about this exact same thing the other day and not not. I guess I should say I was thinking about something related. And that is that the first time there are very few things in this world that feel as good as playing a really, really good game for the first time. There's nothing like it like the feeling of wonder and the feeling of excitement and the feeling of like wanting to explore everything and wanting every experience and, you know, taking your time with the game. There's, like I said, there's nothing else in this entire world like it. And I think that what you said, that is such an interesting way to kind of force yourself to be able to experience something like that again. And I think especially for games like Breath of the Wild, I think that that's a really smart idea. I don't know. I think that's really cool. I'm about to do that. I'm going to be like, let me just never play any of these games that I absolutely love for a really long time until I forget them entirely and then go back and enjoy them for the first time again. Yeah, it's hard to do. And I got to say, I've been doing this for years, like since I I think since I was about a teenager. And, you know, I'll be I'll be 40 pretty soon here. And so I've been doing this for for a very long time. And I do this with movies as well. Oh, it's not so bad movies and video games. If it's something I absolutely love, I pull myself away from it after I beat it and basically put it in the vault. Knowing that I'm going to return to this later in life and not remember any of this. And I want to experience it again, just like it was for the first time. And it works. I've done it. It works. So you're going to be 40. You're going to be 40 now. You're about to turn 40. Yeah, I'm getting there. So by the time you turn 40, that's going to be every day. After that. So it's like, you play the game now. You forget tomorrow, you get to play over again. But I know, dude, I hear you on that happen. It'll happen for the first year. And then by the second, the forty two or forty one, then you'll kind of get the hang of it a little bit for you, too. You're still not there yet, you know, yeah. But yeah, it'll happen. I know time flies to every year that goes by, it goes by faster. We were talking about Breath of the Wild on the Wii U, how the gamepad just does nothing. And I just bought it and then they, they both do. Yeah, they messaged me. I'm sorry, I won't be able to ship this game. I would have to cancel my whatever, man. You know, all the gamepad features because they were bringing the switch. So I was going to say someone in the comments said that they saw during a three presentation, which I saw the same thing. It looks like it's a lethal loan. That's I think it's on the screen. Yeah, the game awards 2014. That's when they showed the first ever actual gameplay not a trailer and they, and it was a AGL NUMA was sitting there. And like you would like when you were marking towers or like putting your little points on it, you would literally hold it physically, like move it around. Basically, the Sheikah Slate was supposed to be the gamepad. But they literally eliminated all the functionality because they were making it a launch game for Switch and they didn't want it to feel like it was superior on Wii U. So that's right. That's right. Even though it's not about that, it ran better on Wii U at launch almost as if it was built from the ground up for that platform. We still haven't had a Zelda built for the ground up for new hardware yet. I guess that's the next hardware because there's going to be a launch game. It's going to come like mid generation and it's going to be literally custom built for Switch too. That's going to be pretty cool. So 3DS, look, I got nothing. I don't have I'll go first on 3DS. I don't have a ton to say. I wasn't really big in the handheld gaming since I was a little kid. But I will note that I played the hell out of the game that a lot of you are going to tell me is a horrendous game and you're wrong and you should feel bad about it. Try Force Heroes played the shit out of that game. Not only did I make a walkthrough for it. I kept playing it after I made the walkthrough because I was having so much fun, even though online people were all jerks and chucking me off the ledge. It's fine. Say that I checked them off too. I let them die to boss fights. Well, I took care of business. Anyways, so that's all I have for 3DS. I played all the games on 3DS, of course, I advanced wars when they brought that one over. And then I also did some fire on them on the platform. I tried a couple of Pokemon games, didn't really get into it. And then 10 dogs and cats that might have been DS. But I don't know, it was back of compatible. So I played it on 3DS. And then I'm trying to think of there was anything. I'll leave between worlds. All those other games around there. I tried out anyways. That's all I got for 3DS for my fond memories. You guys take the floor. I don't care who goes first. Oh, let's go first. 3DS games. Yes, the 3DS era was so good. Eric, you own the 3DS. What did you plan? What's your favorite game? Dude, I helped you. Yeah, you're right. You helped me with the one. I don't know if that was the second one. I have something to show y'all. I will be right back. Oh, damn. Well, Eric, what's your favorite game on 3DS? Oh, God, I didn't. I didn't play a whole lot of games and Smash. Smash with 3DS and helped you with your walkthrough. Yeah. And but the biggest thing, not even a game, but Street Passes. Street Passes, freaking awesome. I really didn't have it. And then the Street Pass games attached to it. Yeah. So collecting all the puzzle pieces that was like a fun game. So I want to be honest here with the 3DS. I did like it. I made it by the game to see the games right here. Got this one. What is this? Number two in the world. And then I got the Louise Mansion. And then I got this one, right? The the entire reason I got him because of my eyesight, right? Legally blind. I can't play in that little screen. So I've never I've never played 3DS on the actual 3DS or or on a handheld. Well, until I got my my super mega screen before that. So I bought these so I can dump them and play them on the emulator, but bigger. And that's what I've been doing. I've been playing. I got to I started playing this one. I'm playing this one right now on the emulator. But look, I'm buying it. It's legal. It's mine. And so that's the reason that's the entire reason I bought it. Because OK, OK, I can buy the games and play with an emulator. I mean, that's the legal way of doing it, right? And so, man, this game is really good. There's there's this level that's so retro. I fell in love with it and how it ends. And it looks like a 3D kind, 2D kind of thing. And it is like like the actual Super My Brothers on NES. Really cool game. This one I want to play this because I want to play every Zelda game, right? I have to play that one. It's so good. And then an intense punch like this one. And then Safrina. Hey, there's my favorite game. This one is sealed. Look at it. It's sealed. Oh, seal. Well, five copies. I have a second one, too. I don't look how much it cost me at Ross. Hey, I would buy it for five. I would buy it for five for less. Yeah, Ross. You can buy all kinds of stuff at Ross. Five dollar Wii U game at Ross. Yeah, you have no idea. You can buy all kinds of stuff at Ross. I go to my local Ross once in a while with Yulia and I'd never find video game stuff there. Yeah, it's very rare, but they are there. Yeah, that's awesome. OK, so this is what I wanted to show you guys. Oh, nice. Yeah, I loved the 3DS era, and I got one of these. So this is 3DS. Oh, my gosh, I loved the 3DS so much. Some of the best Pokemon games came out on that, like Oris. Oris came out on 3DS. You know, the remake of Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire. And one of the best Pokemon games, if you ask me. Pokemon X and Y, I mean, that's why I bought the 3DS. Why I bought that specific 3DS. Pokemon Sun and Moon. Some people say that one wasn't as good, but I have my own opinions. Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. Once again, I have my own opinions on that, but I played. I put in so many hours into Pokemon Ultra Sun. I did everything that you could possibly do in that game. I got every outfit you could get like the like the nurse joy outfit. I got that like I completed the Pokedex. I did everything in that game. I went I spent so much time shiny hunting in that game. And and that's not all. I played a lot, a lot of new leaf on the 3DS. So much new leaf. I don't even know how much new leaf I I mean, because think like what was it? Ninten Talk, I'm sure you know the answer to this. What was it something like 12 years between new leaf and New Horizons? Something like 12 years was like, well, they had like a big update. They had like the welcome. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they had the welcome like seven or eight. Yeah, yeah. But since new leaf itself came out. Yeah, I think it was like eight. I might. Oh, OK. Maybe maybe I'm getting it confused with Kingdom Hearts three. I just remember like wanting either, I don't know. But one of but I played a lot of new leaf. I played a lot of happy home designer. That game is super freaking. Oh, my gosh. That is so cool. Actually worth the decent amount too. I love it. Oh, my gosh. I remember that. But I've been a broke ass bitch for so long, I could never afford it. But like now. Hey, dude, you have all these cool ones. You got any work that I also used to have a modified one to like like record gameplay from what I sold in a while. Oh, nice. That the 3DS kills the switch in terms of special editions. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I do I do like the New Horizons one, but I just won't spend the money on it. I just won't like I I'm not going to buy another switch because I have the OLED. I'm not going to buy another switch until the switch to comes out. But I do really like the New Horizons, like the like the green and the blue. I think it's really cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. New Leaf. There it is. New Leaf is on 3DS. Yeah, some reason. Oh, how much is it? Let me find it. Should be like 20. Yeah, I'm trying to get it. You're spending money without telling my wife. I'm going to be so in trouble. I got multiple copies of games. It's weird. Yeah. So Sabrina, New Leaf came out November 8th of 2012. And then New Horizons was March 20th of 2020. I imagine it was eight years. I got you. Maybe I was getting it confused with them. Yeah, I think maybe I was getting it confused with Kingdom Hearts 3DS. And this makes me cry because I can hold it in two hands. Yeah, that's because in 2019 I had to sell my entire physical collection because I had a financial crisis. I hear that. I've had to do that before. I had to sell my N64 because I had a financial crisis and it's the worst decision I've ever made in my life. I regret it. So oh, and just to prove how much I loved Tri Force Heroes. Oh, I love the books. Yes, that's cool. I have one of those. I have a bunch of those. Oh, good. I love the encyclopedias. The encyclopedias are cool. Yeah, but yeah, there was just there were just so many good games and I didn't just play Pokemon games and Animal Crossing games. I played some other stuff too. I'm having a hard time thinking of it off the top of my head right now. But I played more games than just that on the Nintendo 3DS. And what I really want to do is I really want to see if I can find some copies of the Fire Emblem games that were out on the 3DS because from what I understand, some of the best Fire Emblem games. Yeah, yeah, Fire Emblem Awakening. Yeah, some of the best ones. Yeah, are on the 3DS. And so this doesn't sell well, we're not making anymore. And I'm like, Nintendo never says that. What the fuck? Yeah, I know, right? So like I even want to go. I want to see if I can find like some Fire Emblem games from the 3DS era because I hear that they're really freaking good. Like the 3DS. The 3DS was the best thing to happen to small Nintendo handheld systems. All people like it was really cool. Did I use the 3D feature? No, I did not. No, I absolutely freaking did not use the 3D feature. I don't know. Did y'all use the 3D feature? Yeah, I used it all the time. It would be my grains, man. I used to get the warped headaches. But then again, I I think it's just because my eyes are jacked up. Like I got one bad eye and one good eye. So I turned it off all the time because, yes, after like because when I play. Oh, no, come back. Play for sessions. And when I play for long sessions, it kind of. To the 3D is just too hard on my eyes for long sessions. So I would always like turn it off. But I would always check out every game I bought. I would start with it in three. Just want to see what it looked like. And then I turned it off after I mentioned I had the main system. I ended up playing on dementia as a 2DS or LL or something. So for you now, I just got a link, which let me let me add it. But I'll add it to the private chat. Yeah, so links in the public chat might come out now. Well, I had to the private chat. The private chat. Yeah, this is a good website where you find anything there. Here he goes. He's got to have to use the coupon code 50 percent. I will, too. Don't tell me what. Listen, when anybody on the cast uses that link, I get. I don't know how I get it. I don't care. I'll give I'll use your code and give you a kickback. I don't give a shit. Oh, that was as I got to the rising tide races all ships. Right. Use my link to sign up to Oro. You get 10 bucks. Hey, listen, man, I ain't scared. I'll use anybody's code. All right. You get 10 bucks and I get 10 bucks. So, hey, we all win. There you go. Rising tide races as well at Oro.com slash Nintendo Prime because there you can sign up and it's a 14 day free trial. You get yourself eliminate your private details. You can also get password protection. Oh, beyond all of that. I just get two hundred dollars and it costs you nothing. Can I plug my affiliate? Does it require? Does it require credit card? Go. Go. It does require a credit card. Mother's Day is coming up. Go to Wax Buffalo and use code SAFRON to get $15 off premium wax candles. Wax that. Whoa, I heard Wax Buffalo. I was like, wait a second. What are we waxing? I thought it was another Wax family. What was the code? It's a Wax candle. It's saffron. Just saffron. Yeah, go get go get you a premium wax candle for Yulia. I'm sure she would love it. By the way, I have to say this to Yulia is such a beautiful name. Like I have always loved that name. I had a friend who her older sister's name was Yulia. And I always thought that was so gorgeous. I don't know. I just had to say that real quick. Please tell me where Santa, because I will buy all of them. Oh, yeah. And they're good too. They're cheaper than Yankees. So you and get 15 percent off by using my code. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it waxed it. But no wax on my fiance. Yeah, no, her she. So Yulia is actually an extremely common Russian name, apparently. But yeah, she's from Russia. So yeah, yeah, Yulia is like the name of my favorite actress from Russia, who is in the Avengers movie. Yeah, but she's she's badass. Yeah, yeah, I bet she is. She is. I don't think you could not be badass with a name like that. She's pretty cool. She was in the morning before she went to work. She's like, dude, I'm a fucking badass. I'm like, yeah, I don't know why you're saying it. But yes, you are. Yeah, don't disagree. That's my vibe. You're in a good vibe right now. You kick that ass today. But yeah, I think I think the 3DS era is probably one of the times in my life where I spent the most time gaming. I probably game less now than I did back then, because back then I just didn't really have as many responsibilities. Like I still had responsibilities, but it was really just like go to work, come home and game. That's really all I had to do. I didn't have a house at the time. So, you know, didn't have five cats at the time. Didn't didn't have a whole bunch to keep up with. So I would just come home and get on the 3DS and play it until I went to bed. Wake up the next day, go to work. I mean, I was no life in it, made in less ass, 3DS and all day long. Like that's awesome. Well, I guess I guess I wasn't necessarily made in less because I my door only swings one way and it's not in the way of maidens. But what? Look, the first time I played 3DS, I was naked. So, you know, 3DS is a unique memory. You can't just glance over that way. I'm not made in less anymore. OK, no, a promotional thing going on. And you guys have a camera? The camera, yeah. What are you doing with the camera? Let's go in the opposite direction of where this is going. You have a selfie camera and a back end camera. I'm just going to put your back end camera. I did not think that camera was made for that. Made so anyway, so I have a good 3DS story. Don't break it. You want to change? Stop running. All right, so I bought a 3DS on launch day and I don't know if you guys remember, but shortly after it launched for 250, it wasn't selling. And Nintendo dropped the price. Yeah, everyone remember that? Yeah, I think there's the ambassador program. Yes. And so, of course, I got the 20 free Nintendo games. Does everyone know what the games were and all about that? I don't remember them all. All right, I got the list right here. I pulled it up. So for regular Nintendo, you got these games for free just for buying the system on day one as an apology from Nintendo. Yeah, this will never happen again. I was shocked, but they gave you Super Mario Brothers Metroid. These are all for NES, Zelda, Zelda to balloon fight, ice climber. NES Open Golf, D.K. Junior, Yoshi and Wrecking Crew. Solid lineup. OK, solid lineup. But the next 10 games is where it really hit. These were the GBA games. You got Metroid Fusion, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Advance 3, WarioWare, Legend of Zelda, The Minish Cap, Fire Emblem, The Sacred Stones, Wario Land 4, F-Zero Maximum Velocity and Kirby and the Amazing Mirror all for free. So that's incredible. Of course, on my on my 3DS here, I have it. And oh, my God, you know, who wasn't. We know who wasn't a broadcast bitch back in the day. I'm jealous. And I was working all the time. Sam, Sam, I feel you. Favorite games. Definitely late between worlds, both the Zeldas for 64, Ocarina, Majora's Mask, Metroid, Samus, Returns, of course. This one, Castlevania, Lords of Shadow, you had Resident Evil, Revelations. That was great. Luigi's Mansion, of course. Kid Icarus. Mm, uprising. Hell, yeah. So many good games. Seriously, I have, like, I think I have probably about 30 or 40 games here for 3DS. Excellent, excellent. Yeah. I don't know what the franchise is. So what do you all think is better? 3DS or Wii U? 3DS. 3DS. 3DS. I didn't have neither of them. So I mean, I didn't have a Wii U, so I don't think I can say it. But I just I don't think I can actually give a real answer on that. But I just think general consensus, I think, would be the 3DS. Well, the 3DS. What about you, Mr. playing the 3DS Nucket over there? But I'm naked. It is what it is. Wait. So no, the 3DS. Like, I probably put more time into the Wii U games. But the 3DS is a superior library and it's not even close. Yeah. It just wasn't the Wii U wasn't as well supported by third party or Nintendo or even Indie. 3DS literally was getting brand new games like three years into Switch. So 3DS is literally the superior system platform just due to the lineup. Yeah. So I really don't know about that. The DS backwards compatibility, of course. Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, I mean, I've got. I mean, look, we want to be fair then that bumps with you a little silver. It does bump it. Which one's that? Not much. Pokemon Soul Silver. Oh, I got it. I got it in here. I got it right here. Yeah. That's what I was talking about, baby. Baby, what about this? What about this? Represent. Trigger. You got to go get my stuff. And hey, we we failed to mention the question. OK. There's two Dragon Quest on the 3DS. Well, it was seven. What's the other one? It's Fragments of the Forgotten Past. And I just downloaded it, actually, because I mod up my 3DS now. Hey, there's a member of the Pretendo Network. Yeah, I actually did it yesterday. It is Oh, Journey of the Cursed King. OK. It was on a PS was on PS1 then remade on PS2 and then came out on 3DS and 3DS from what I've gathered. What I read is definitely the way to go. It's the best version. What? Now what? For Dragon Quest, Journey of the Cursed King because of all the extra stuff they've added and, of course, having the second screen for inventory and whatnot. Hell, there's a lot of good late releases for the 3DS. You guys think that they're going to keep while they they probably should, right? Like release switch games while the next console is out. Like there's going to be overlap. They're not just going to like. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Right now, as as we are looking at what we have now, the last two games are well, last three games on this ocean, which is bad, my mom. Hey, you just go, man, it's literally like the next brand new game on Switch. Man, we just match in HD in June and then people, Mario and in May. Dude, next month is May. Can you believe it? I'm going to have to play Paper Mario. Everybody says thousand year doors like the best thing since I spread. And now I'm like, what am I missing? What am I missing out on? I need to play. Oh, it's great. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. OK. I'm totally going to play. Including all the other Paper Mario's, including Super Mario, it's literally the best Mario RPG they've ever made. That's what a lot of people say that that a thousand year door is like literally. Jokes in it. There's a deep lore into the background of the Mushroom Kingdom. The combat's amazing. The boss fights are just it might be one of the rare, perfect games. Well, I'm going to. I'm definitely going to get that one because I haven't played any of the Paper Mario games. And I mean, I've heard a lot of shit being talked about them, but not thousand year door. I've never said anything bad about it. So it's got to be pretty freaking good. I'm down to play it. I'm down to check it out. Origami game with that game. I like Origami game. I like it, but you know, if we're talking about new games that are coming out, Grandma has not yet played Princess Peach Showtime and she will come Mother's Day. I'll tell you that. I played it today. Can I tell you what? Can I tell you what happened? Grandma's saffron city TV. Let's do it. Yeah, Grandma's saffron. I want to hear true story, true story. I played for this piece today. I fell asleep. Oh, shit. Damn, not good. Literally. I'm like, what the heck? I want a few levels in. I got a few like four, four, four levels up in the theater before I was like, dude, this is very repetitive and kind of boring. I think that I mean, I like the colors. It's very colorful. I mean, like so much colors. Very cool. I like the art direction. Yeah. So I've watched some reviews where people were like, the game was cool, but it just wasn't very fun to actually play like the gameplay itself was boring. It's repetitive and boring. You press the same two buttons the whole time and like you get introduced to almost all the costumes like really early in the game and then it's just on repeat the whole game. Yeah, it's not for my daughter's love it, but it's not for everyone. You know, just I still think my grandma would probably get a kick out of it, but she does like Bowser's Fury. So I don't know that that's a great game. That's a little hardcore here. This is she likes Bowser's Fury and she wants more games like Bowser's Fury. Like the last time I was on the podcast, you were saying like, what are some games that we would be looking forward to? Mario games in particular. And she said she wanted more games like that and more games like Odyssey. So I don't know if it'll be challenging enough for Grandma Saffron, especially considering that she also likes Diablo. Is it like Mario Odyssey? The launch Mario game for Twitch 2 is going to be. Oh, yeah, for sure. I bet it'll be right up her alley. I hope Bowser, how Fury Bowser comes back because that was like the biggest baddest Bowser ever. Awesome. Yeah, she likes it a lot. So I don't know, maybe she, I don't know if she would enjoy something like Princess Peach Showtime. Maybe she would enjoy it just to, just to get through it like once, but I think she always comes back to the more difficult games. It's in those games. That's a game. Like once you beat the game, you unlock like more challenging stages or like challenging like things that you can do. But yeah, it's pretty easy game. I don't know. I kind of disagree about like it was just boring though. Like I, What would you give it score wise? Like a high six, low seven. That's what I figured. Yeah. I'd give it like five. Now, for me is a, it's not garbage. Like it's not metacritic style. Five for me is it's an okay game. It's just not worth my time. It's just not. Yeah. It's just not a game for me. I feel like it's a game for people who never want to lose. Yeah. It's very easy. I think I died like five times in the whole game. In the whole game. I would give it a 10. I would give it a 10. I love the art. Like I wanted to keep playing because I just love the art style and I love theater. So like having theater and like musical style and like the sets are so cool. Yeah. Good feel is amazing. They make great games. I love the last Yoshi game. They make Crafted World is also another stupidly easy game. But I never got bored while playing it. Game play kind of felt like it kept evolving as you got it. But the gameplay doesn't, it just doesn't feel like it's evolving. You know, the deeper I got into it. The thing is I actually, it's funny because my very first stream that I played for this feature was I was like, yeah, this is actually not too bad. And then you kept playing. I'm like, oh, it doesn't change. Yeah. Well, and it feels, I don't know. Am I the only one that kind of feels like a lot of newer games have gone that direction? Like have gotten more simplistic or no, maybe maybe it's just me. I'm gonna need you to stop making that face because I'm feeling it. I'm feeling the burn just watching you. I'm getting indigestion just watching you. Okay, that's a little burn on that one. I don't disagree. I don't disagree. Some games are kind of repetitive. You can't handle it. It's here to the kingdom. I feel like I'm a pussy because it burned on the way down. Oh no, it's gone on. It's just, it's gone on. What are you doing? Are you drinking alcohol? This is the place for them. So like all these gifted members of any $10 or more thing I've been doing shots, Babelhut's just coming in like a beast dropout. Oh man. I can't even hide his gifted now. So I don't know what to do. If I would have known ahead of time, I would have, I would have cracked one with you. I think the decision as the stream started to stare down with all these mini bottles I bought for like, so it just hit my channel's anniversary, just happened two days ago. It's kind of weird. My channel has like two different anniversaries. There's the anniversary when it was founded and the anniversary when it became Nintendo Prime. Cause it was founded all the way back in 2008. But we weren't really like serious YouTubers back then. It was a side thing to our website, Zeldinformer. But so we were celebrating the founding of the channel on April 8th. So I bought like a 10 pack of these mini bottles. I'm like, oh, maybe we'll go through all this night. And then I had like the lowest amount of super chats I've had like in two years. And so I have all these bottles just sitting here. And I'm like, I got to get rid of these things. So let's just every stream. Hey, we're streaming now. Let's go. Right. It wasn't Yasha Berkeley? Down this shit and get crunk. It wasn't Yasha. Hey, when is, when is everybody's birthday? July 5th. May 7th. October 12th. November 24th. October 3rd. December 3rd. Hey, we're, we're, we're, we're birthday buddies. Eric. Oh yeah. All right. What's all of our signs? Baby. Taurus. Yeah, we know. Are you just serious? Yeah, you're, you're a, aren't you a Leo though? Who? Who? In July? You born in July? I'm still a cancer. Oh, I got you. I got you. I got you. Yeah, I feel like it's never like the whole month. I thought I was like. You were right. Yeah. Leo's at the end. I've never looked it up. So I don't know. Where, when were you born? October. Yeah. Yulia, I don't know. Yulia's is July 12th. She might, I don't know. She crossed over. Nah, she's still a cancer. It's not until like the 20th. I'm, I'm a cancer in multiple ways. So that's what it is. You know, I used to go to Zelda and former. Did you really? Yeah. Dude, I was editor. Really? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. I went there back in the day. I don't know what I, obviously I read Zelda stuff. I don't know if I was reading. Were you guys covering rumors back in the day? We covered rumors and news and fan theories and we'd also come up with our own theories. And we'd have to see. This was a great website back in the day. It was really cool. It's so funny. It was your baby. Yeah. Yeah, it was my baby. I put a lot of time into that thing. Well, we're full time. I don't even know why you really started dating me because literally I was working 40 hours a week plus putting 40 hours in the Zelda form. We're making nothing. I agree with also my sign. I'll take the sign. Oh, my sign is tingle. But yeah, that's cool. So you, I appreciate that somebody paid the money to call you flavor saver, but I just have to call you thunderstache cause it was epic. I miss the days. What happened? Where did the days go? That's quality. I think that, look, I will say, if someone threw up my beard and mustache one time to like a length of like this, I will say it's very much a flavor saver when you have that. You'll find some. I think that's really cool that you've been watching Nate since way back in the day. That's cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's very random. And YouTube was a lot smaller back then too. YouTube was smaller and also harder to find people back then. The site doesn't exist anymore. It was bought by somebody and then they absorbed it in the Zelda dungeon. So it's kind of like weird that there's only a select few people that even remember that place existed. And yet it was literally like the second biggest Zelda website in the world that was getting like 3 million impressions a month. It was insane. Oh my gosh. And you weren't making anything from that? Way bigger than my YouTube channel in terms of the amount of reach it had and everything. It was crazy. So how did you? How are you not making bank from that? Because as you'll maybe don't know about traditional websites and this is why they seem to be dying out is the ads make you nothing. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah. A thousand impressions for 25 cents maybe. Oh my gosh. That's a good, by the way. Yeah. 25 cents. Sometimes it's like 0.3 of a penny. So I just start making some money. When the guy who owns the dungeon bought it, he kept me on for a year. He put me on a contract to keep running the website while he was figuring out what he wanted to do. And I ran the Facebook page that was literally a stone's throw away like 20,000 likes away from having a million followers. And I was building that page up and I would sell merchandise on there. And I was allowed to keep all the profits from the merchandise sales. So I would sell and I was only selling official Nintendo stuff. We had two places that I could do affiliate links with that I would make 20% per sale. And we were just making bank, especially on all this stuff in particular, of course, but we'd sell other Nintendo things too. But yeah, that so what that whole year and the funny thing is after I was let go, I'm going to say let go. It was kind of a forced exit, but we're not going to get into that. He kept me on on the Facebook page and that literally was actually my job was just selling merch stuff and obviously updating the page, putting memes, posting the news there, all that all the way until 2019. So when I lost my job in 20 at January 1st of 2019, when he literally just messing with me and said, yeah, I'm kicking you off the Facebook page. I don't need you by. I'm like, you could have gave me a warning. Thanks. I was I was making a bank, dude. I was making like six, seven grand a month. It was sweet. Now it didn't feel like I had kids and you got to pay taxes on everything. And I don't know what the hell I was doing. So I always end up owning a shitload of taxes every year. But that was a really hard time for me because that that allowed me at that time. I was doing Nintendo Prime, the YouTube channel that allowed me that that freedom to kind of make content every day and do all this stuff because I was making all this money on the Facebook page, booted my ass off. And next thing you know, I'm like, oh, shit. Then I had a job that got another job quickly got. I want to say fired more of a difference of opinion between me and a manager on how they were running things. And the funny thing is after I got let go two months later, the company went under. So because it didn't really matter. But that was when I was having a really hard time in 2019 because I. Honestly, I thought I was going to have a little bit more time to build the YouTube channel up because we were growing. We just weren't where we needed to be yet like we are now. But I still think that that's incredible that that you were able to build up a following that large. I mean, that and back in the day, too, because Facebook anymore, because now you have to pay for people to even see your content on Facebook. Yeah, yeah, Facebook. Do that back in the day. Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I'm like, I know that like back then it was it was harder to find new shit, though, back then, like you may have gotten a lot of impressions, but as a user, it was hard to see anything outside of your bubble. If someone wants to know if that page is still up, it absolutely is. Just look up Zelda and former on Facebook. It's it's still there irony as they've kind of ran into the ground. It's lost over 200,000 followers since I left. And they're they're getting like a very small percentage of the viewers. Now, I know part of that's because YouTube wants you to pay, but also part of it's because when they booted me off and tried to replace me on the page, it was it was a people who didn't understand the community to understand what they like. So they were posting like random, deviant art stuff that nobody liked. And it was just they kind of killed the page. Even art can be cool if they can be like stuff. And and because I was with and I told the guy owns all the dungeon, I told him, like, dude, do you even understand this community? Like I been here from day one. I know what they like, what they don't like. He's like, I don't really care. I'm going to do it my way. I'm like, you own it. So it's so hard to build up something that large. You know, like I got to commend you on getting there in the first place, though. That's incredible to touch you for me because I did. I'm the reason that site was worth it. You converted that Facebook page to Nintendo Prime, right? I remember it. No, no. No, I didn't get to keep that. Oh, no, that was one of the most valuable things when they bought the place. That's right. And I have a Zeldin former Facebook page, but it's only got 50,000 followers, which is still a lot. But then again, Facebook changed their rules. So like when I put up a post, you want your own followers to see it, you got to pay them money. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's because when they start doing that with Instagram, that'll probably kill Instagram, too. Yeah. How would you do it with Instagram? But I mean, I hope when they learn their lessons, I think Facebook, by the way, is still used by a lot of people, but it's not growing anymore. And I think that you have to recognize some of the mistakes you made, forcing pages that built the following to now pay for their own followers to see content. What's the difference between that and just buying ads? Yeah, it's like you're paying your own followers to see your content. I grew a page to 250,000 on Facebook, and I just left it, I dropped it because it doesn't, you put something, nobody sees it. You have to boost everything, boost everything and boost everything so that you boost the pay method. Yeah, your own viewers can actually view it. Oh, well, boost it to your own followers. Like, what do you mean my own followers aren't seeing it? That's so dumb. Yeah, sounds like a trap. Well, and I've been seeing a lot of, like, I don't know. I don't know if Instagram does the same thing, but they do they have the boost this post button. And I'm just kind of like, no. Why would I want to know? I just want to address this quick. John Cena put up an eight bit link like on his Instagram or whatever. And everyone's like, was he just casting the Zelda movie? OK, yeah, it's possible that he was. Also, John Cena is a well-known Zelda fan has been posting Zelda pictures literally randomly for two decades. So he's a huge gamer, too much into it. Yeah, you know, a lot of celebrities like Zelda. Well, what would he what would he play again? I mean, it would be something like that or some or go on something, maybe someone in the comments said tingle. That would be awesome. That would be awesome. It is really cool, though, to see that a lot of celebrities really like Zelda, like freaking Robin, Robin Williams, freaking Lord bless his soul, his daughter, his daughter, Zelda. Yeah, because he loved Zelda so much. And it's crazy, too, because it's not just him. A whole bunch of celebrities really like Zelda. It's crazy the reach that game has. It's just like a beloved. It's a beloved franchise. He's not playing Link. Come on, people playing Link. You're playing on that link. Imagine Link, like you're a muscular Link. Look, he's going to bring the peacemaker to the series. I'm good with that. I like peacemaker. I can't see him being a gore on that. Yeah, me too, me too. And I also maybe a king. Yeah, Zelda's dad or even even, you know, have a guy go the villain of the story. Not like so. But I was in the lore of other things at this point. I was going to say to get back up on topic, though, I think it is kind of it does kind of make me sad that because there were so many fantastic Pokemon titles on the 3DS, it does kind of make me sad that we won't be able to do like Wonder Trade or anything like that anymore. Because that was such a fun mechanic. I love to wonder trading. I still do. I still find I don't. It's not called the wonder trading anymore, but everybody knows what I'm talking about. It does kind of make me sad that that's going away. Like Pokemon X and Y implemented some of the best online features a Pokemon game has ever had and, you know, they're they're gone now. And I don't know. I guess it's just one of those things where, like, I hope Pretendo can figure out a way to do the same thing for the 3DS without having to, like, hack your 3DS or, like, mess up your 3DS in order to in order to utilize the online functionality again. Yeah, like, hopefully they can do something like what they did for the Wii U for the 3DS. That would be cool. And if and or when they do, I will definitely check it out. Yeah, because I think it's worth it. I think just having the ability to wonder trade is worth it. As long as there are other people using it. I mean, the only way they could actually do something like that is, I mean, you would, if it's to get the full experience, there's a possibility you might have to deal break this so they can install their apps and then use their app for the system to kind of features. But for online play, you don't need to deal break. You just change the DNS settings and point to their servers and they'll be fine. But yeah, for online game community features or even an app that requires you to interact with other people, you might have to download something extra. Sure. Hopefully they can get away around it, you know. Yeah. So let's move on to our last one. Maybe we spent a lot of time on that topic, dude. It's tough, man. Saying goodbye. It is. A whole love of generation is very hard. It's going to happen in the switch one day. Hear the voice. Stop it. Stop it, Nintan talk. I am. Do we have enough depression and anxiety going on in this world? Don't you put that on me, Nintan talk. Don't you put that on me? Let me let me let me ease your heart, Sabrina. It is almost switched to time and it is now that the Wii U is ending. So imagine how long more would the switch will be around? I think it's a more successful system with 150 million, 40 million units sold compared to that 14 million from the Wii U. So I think that at least 10 more years will still have. Compatibility might keep it alive. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, if we get another decade still, whenever they turn off the services, that swan song episode, I will be pretty emotional. Yeah. We're like, we're like 60 years old and so I'm going to put. Yeah, I would be like a 50 year old man crying over this stuff. What did you say? Give me where all games are. I want 15 miles of people face to face. What are you doing into your microphone? So what's going on? So our next topic, because we have this topic, then, if there's any Q&A questions, you guys can submit Q&A questions with your super chats. You don't have to just change your name. You don't have to just buy me shots. You can actually submit questions. But what we're going to do right now is talk about Switch 2. You guys see it in the title, obviously. And this came across my mind. I've actually been thinking about this for a while. One, Mike Odyssey has brought it up a handful of times. If he's been on the show in the past about how he somewhat still believes it's possible to switch to come out this year. And then Andrus Restarter was supposed to be on this episode, dropped a video today about just entertaining, entertaining that possibility of Switch 2 still being here. So I want to make sure that we entertain this as well and look into things in an interesting way because, look, the people that are saying that Switch 2 is coming next year are the same people that told us we were going to get a Switch Pro and are the same people that say we were going to get a Switch 2 reveal in March. Both things never happened. Conveniently Nintendo changes their plans. Now, I do believe realistically companies change their plans behind the scenes all the time, and they probably have legit information. And this is just more of an exercise than it is. Necessarily saying 100 percent that it's coming this year. But it's April. We still don't have that direct. Plenty of time left for a possible direct this month. But if it doesn't happen, then we don't don't know about any games past June. Is it because potentially Switch 2 might be coming this year and they're just really waiting. They're milking every Switch sale. They can get every game they can release. So could Switch 2 come out this year? And if so, what are the reasons that we think it could happen? And what would be like the launch lineup to look like in a 2024 holiday window? Spicy wants to go first. So there you go. Mike, of course, like this is happening this year. I'll go first. No, I'm just saying, hey, it's April 10th. OK, it's April 10th. If we were to get an indie world and direct, you know, back to back, you know, this week would have been the indie world. Next week would have could have been direct, right? Or maybe next week. Next week is already the third week in April. It's how crazy how how time is just flying by. Right. Next week will be mid April already. Right. We were just looking at April Fool's Day the other day. And so if nothing, if we hear nothing by next week, that's my that's my prediction. If we hear nothing by next week of any type of presentation, it could be an indie world. It could be an internal direct, direct mini, whatever it is. I I I'm going to jump on a switch switch to praying, praying train this year, because I think this is just another Wii U Wii Wii Wii U 3DS little thing here that we're going through, although Nintendo was the one who denied it and then presented it the very next week. But I think that this really crazy calm that we're getting before the storm is switched to related. It is to is, you know how they say it's too quiet. It's a little too quiet, you know, if you read Nintendo's Twitter yesterday, one little tweet and then the day before one tweet when they're used to like three or four tweets a day. Right. And their tweets have been way too repetitive about the same exact games over and over again. I mean, what else are you going to say? You know, so even third party developers are quiet. You know, with games. And so I think it's just, man. Yeah, I am 99.99.5 percent sure that I think we're we're this is a switch to year. And Mario Mario World or something like that was that big giant open world Mario game that they were getting. I am in the small portion of people. Maybe they believe that Animal Crossing could be a launch game just because it's only the second best game in the switch lineup. The best selling game. Oh, but no, but it's because it is because of COVID. Yeah. Hey, because of COVID, it became the best seconds. Do this to me. Don't do it. It became. Yeah. Don't me and Ninten talk. We're about to buddy up, man. I'm telling you right now. I'm about to we're about to buddy up. Think about it. Think about it. The second best selling game on Switch. And because of, yeah, because of COVID, it got that most more fans. How many people are attached to that game emotionally, sentimentally? They will buy a new system just because they can get to experience that game that got them out of depression, that got them out of a rut and made that horrible experience of a year so much better. You know, I will say that is a really good point you make because what you remember most about the games that you play is not what happened in the game. It's not what the character it's not the characters. It's how you felt playing the game. That's what connects you to the games. And, you know, if you can associate any game with a really, really, really good feeling, that is really what keeps people returning to it. And so I will say, you know, as much as, you know, as much as I don't like to chalk up the success to Animal Crossing 2 COVID, I can't deny that COVID actually really did play a pretty decent part in the the amount that people immersed to themselves into the game and really got into it because I imagine that without COVID. Animal Crossing would be a game that would still sell very, very, very, very well. But I don't think it would have got as widespread love and attention for as long as it did without COVID. And I got to say the release right next to Doom was Chef's Kiss. Just got to say I really loved the the Animal Crossing Doom team up during that period of time. But I will say that, like, I hope that Animal Crossing does come to the Nintendo Switch for 2026. But why does it still feel so soon? Like, is it because I'm getting older and like time is passing by faster because whenever I was, you know, between New Leaf and New Horizons, I felt like that I just felt like it took forever to get a new Animal Crossing game. I mean, we went through the whole Wii U without a mainline Animal Crossing game. What if the rumor or whatever out there was 2028? Would you feel the same? Probably not. No, I would probably be like, yeah, that sounds about right. Allow me waiting between New Leaf and New Horizons. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think it's really just a perception thing. Yeah, I mean, eight years out of the way, I doubt it's going to be eight years. I mean, it could be if they think Animal Crossing is so big that it could actually be a big boost late generation. I could understand doing a 2028. I would rather them not. I would rather them do 2026. Yeah, I think they know that Animal Crossing is massive. It's a once per gen game. And I think the earlier in the generation is, I think the better to the long term support will be they won't drop it as quick as this time. So I look obviously six years is plenty of time to get another one out. We know that team obviously works on another franchise as well. But it's so it's so big. I would hope that they're expanding their teams enough to handle both. I think one one thing that gives you hope that 2026 could happen, especially for an intent punch over there is that they did stop the support for the game when they did. They released excellent DLC, which was basically something we had already previously had, but in a more glorious form. And that's cool. But then it just stopped. Like it was like a hard stop after that DLC drop. Yeah, and honestly, the DLC was also a little too late. Like the DLC was a little too little, too late for between enough. Yeah, it was too little, too late for Animal Crossing fans because we were like, where the fuck is diving? Well, why is diving not in the games? And so like it was too little, too late for the Animal Crossing fans. And it was too little, too late for the people that were starting to go back to work after covid died down. So they were kind of like, man, I got my fair share of this game. You know, I don't I don't really care for the DLC because I'm probably not going to return to it, you know, stuff like that. So if they if they do release another Animal Crossing in 2026, I would like it to be the full package and not give us old features in the form of DLC. Just if you are going to include the feature in the game, just wait until it's fully baked in the oven and then release it. Because I'm not a huge fan of playing something that's not fully finished when it comes out. Yeah, what I what I think about Animal Crossing is that because 2026 happened in 2022 was an uncertain year still, right? We were still kind of what's going to happen. Are we going to have another pandemic? Are we going to have another shutdown? I think they were kind of forced to throw instead of expanding that DLC over three years like they promised, they kind of just start releasing everything at the same time and rushed it and just then there was nothing else. They were they rushed everything they had planned for the for the long haul too early. And then that left this huge giant gap. What I'm hoping what I'm hoping happened is that at that point, they went to the drawing board for the next game for the next system. So yeah, I think it's funny that you're playing fireworks because I was literally just about to say Animal Crossing 2020 was like it was like a shitty fireworks show. It went off with a really, really nice bang. But then the the, you know, canister fell over and so they had to fix it for a second. And then it came back up and we got a nice big finale. But at that point, everybody was already in their car on their way home. Yeah. So I want to hear Ninten talk. Yeah. And Thunderstache, I want to hear y'all's opinion on this. Now, I think 2026 is is pretty reasonable because if you guys remember, New Horizons was actually supposed to come out in 2019. Yeah, it was delayed. It was like the best delay of all time. I know. And like now you only have one console you're working on. Whereas like back then you have the Wii U, you have the 3DS. Also like the Amiibo update for New Leaf. I don't think that was really planned. I think that was a way to like sell the Amiibo cards at the time because they were like brand new. I don't see an Animal Crossing coming out like this year or next year. Like I think it's too soon. Like similar to the Zelda team, I think that the Animal Crossing slash Splatoon team is like one of the most talented ones. Zelda games, you can't just like spit Zelda games out. So 2026, I think we could hear about it. 2025, possibly kind of like what they did with the last game where it's like just like a Tom Nook cinematic. And they just say like now in development or like coming soon or something like that. Yeah, I think that's when it's going to be. I'm going to be bold here. OK, I have to, you know, Nate knows me. I have no fear. I can live out the edge all the time and just kind of look over the building. Part state building. I'm going to say we're going to see Animal Crossing in the trailer. Oh, in like the reveal trailer, reveal trailer. When I see Mario, we're going to see Animal Crossing in the real trailer. We're going to see Donkey Kong in the reveal trailer. And then we're going to see Metroid in the real trailer. As much as I would love it, that would be a little scary because I think once again, like I said, I'm just I'm really, really over Nintendo and these game developers are these these production companies or whatever it is, bro. I can't fucking think right now, but not giving not giving these developers time to finish these games before the deadline. But remember, Nintendo's never had that problem. It's just a Pokemon company. But right. But but Animal Crossing did release not fully finished. So if we're announcing something this soon, I'm not interested in waiting two to three years after an announcement. But look at Mario, but look at the look at Mario Odyssey. Mario Odyssey was on the trailer, but then it was announced. It was released about eight months later, six months later. Yeah. Yeah. But the turnaround is so much more different for Animal Crossing because the localization is so much more like like that's what takes so long for Animal Crossing games to come out. It's not because the game itself takes a long time to make. It's because it takes so long to translate everything because there is so much these games are literally dialogue based. So I mean, we have AI now, so we can't really rule that out. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I think they're going to use AI localization and they have a team that overlooks the AI to basically double check it and make sure it makes sense. That cuts your your time down dramatically. That's a really good point. They use it for Starfield. They were talking about how they translated and they used AI not only to develop planets, generate worlds, but also in the translation in even dialects and even even some of the voice acting in other languages that they couldn't get a hold of. So it's a new world, you know, AI is taking jobs. Yeah, yeah. Let me continue to. I have a I have a really spicy take that I'm curious to. So I think games like Animal Crossing, I'm trying to think of Animal Crossing Mario Kart Splatoon, I want them to release Unfinished. Like I want them to release at about like 60 percent done because like, you know, I primarily make Animal Crossing content. And if it wasn't for the updates, I really think people would dive into these games for like two months, maybe, and then they'd be out. Like, I mean, look at Tears of the Kingdom, a huge game like Tears of the Kingdom never got updates or anything. You don't really see people playing it too much like people, you know. And I feel like we're just in this like Eric entered the chat. Yeah, that's true. I just feel like we're in this generation where it's like attention spans are just so like, yeah, they're so gone. So it's like you release a shiny game, like that's cool. But I think people will be over it. So I just I just think that the the features, the features from the older games should be in the release. And then if they're going to add shiny new things to it. Yeah, give us DLC. I'm not against DLC at all. I think DLC is great. I think it gives people something to look forward to. It gives people a reason to come back to the games. It gives people a reason to continue playing the games, even though they might be like, I feel like I've gotten my fair share of this. They might play it for a little bit longer because the DLC is about to come out. Like, for example, I know a lot of people right now are playing are getting back into Elden Ring and probably played Elden Ring a little longer than they normally would have because the DLC is coming out here soon. So I agree with you on that. I just think that, like, like things like diving shouldn't be left out of marking things that we had in the last game as new. Well, in a way, if that's if that's what you mean by unfinished, I think that's basically the model they chose to go with that game. And sometimes even even prolonging a feature that you had in the previous game could be a good promotion or a good promotion for the next game later on. It's a feature you're looking forward to. Even though you've had it in the in the prior game, they built so much into this game that they don't need that just yet. That they could introduce it later on in the game and in the life of the game. It's a good strategy because it's not a bad strategy, but it's just something that has never been done in Animal Crossing. And quite frankly, didn't work very well. I mean, I'm different with that one because in my case, me playing Animal Crossing and me playing with my two daughters, we we we enjoyed the game from that was our bonding game. We played the game from the very beginning. We didn't even know that we could swim or anything. By the time we got that feature in there, we were we were ecstatic about the feature. We were swimming everywhere and just grabbing stuff in there. We just went along with their with their release cycle, not thinking about the prior game, was just focusing on what what that game had to offer at the time. And I think that's what it is what it's all about. You know, I think that's a fair point. Yeah, that's a fair point. What the game has to offer at the moment in future releases, you know, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure they listen to the fans and say, we were missing this this feature from this game. And you have this water here. How about this? Let's do this. OK, they add it later on. But I think I don't think it takes anything. I think it adds to the game and into the anticipation, especially when you new players coming into the into the franchise. I think that Animal Crossing Horizon just literally boosted the cozy industry and cozy YouTube channel. It brought him into the year. And, you know, I mean, 50 million, I mean, not 50 million. What's the 50 million? How many did sell 30 million? I think 40 was a 40 for something like that. I don't know. Yeah, that was the beginning of the cozy era, like like the cozy era in terms of YouTubers. This. Right. So what about you, Mr. Flavoursaver? Yeah, I think this is a theory that I've had because I think we've all seen the success and how it's paid off. And my idea is that. I could see games like Animal Crossing. And of course, Mario Kart. Just two examples, releasing much earlier in the cycle. And they're going to be evergreen titles. And we've already seen what happened, for instance, for example, releasing Breath of the Wild. At launch, turned into an evergreen title. Sells the system from day one to the end. Now, what's going to be different here is Nintendo. We got a really good example of this working very well with Mario Kart. OK, now we all talked about the Wii and how much we love Mario Kart, right? This is the same game on Switch. We all thought, OK, yeah, we're getting Mario Kart, but we're going to get the other one later, right? Well, we never did, right, as we all know. But we got DLC and the DLC added, what, 48 new tracks. I have the DLC. It's amazing. It's like another game and they didn't screw with the engine. And they didn't need to, because in my opinion, that's the best Mario Kart game today. It's it's excellent. So Mario Kart, as we know, is the best selling game on Switch. Yes, it is by far, right? It's an evergreen title. It's sold from day from the beginning. It didn't come out day one. It actually wasn't a launch title. It came out like a month or two after, if I recall. Yeah, but it's sold throughout the whole console's lifespan. It has all of the DLC that's continued to make the game relevant and it's given you reason to return to the game. Why would they not do that again? Right? Why would they not do that for something like Animal Crossing where they're going to consistently release DLC? Not like a season pass, like some of these games do these days, but expansions. Yeah. Like we're seeing with Elden Ring, you know, like I beat Elden Ring when it came out, I platinum the game. I love it. I'm very excited to return. Was it June 21st? First out of the air tree. That's going to be fun. So that gives us all reason to return to the game. Gives people reason to buy the game that have never bought it because like now we got this huge expansion. So I think Animal Crossing comes out. Has a good chance to come out earlier, like with within the first year, first 12 months. So when we say 2026, I think that is very realistic. I don't see why they wouldn't because you want to make more money. Yeah, it'll move more systems. It'll increase the install base. Then more developers come over. You get more third parties that want to make games for the new switch. Yeah. And it's never guaranteed that all the developers will come back to the next system. We saw this with we and we it's never guaranteed. So like you got to you got to get the games out and build up that install base. You know, if you if you build it, they will come. Yeah. And with the switch being such a Renaissance console, I wonder if the switch, too, is going to make as big of a splash. Well, Nintendo to Super Nintendo. That's always, I think, a good example. And I know it's it's very old now. Yeah. But any guys, I grew up with a Nintendo. And that was our first console. The Super Nintendo is amazing. I love it. It's very special to everyone. It's it's literally the Super Nintendo. It's the Super. It's the superior version of Nintendo. But it sold a fraction as to what Nintendo did. Yeah. Yeah. So if we if we look at it the same way now, we're like, hey, switch to switch to. And what have we all hoped for that the switch to is essentially like the switch has all the great features we like, but with better graphics, you know, but what about DS to 3DS, though? Yeah, it was the same thing. Really? That that tanked real bad. 3DS tanked 3DS. Only Nintendo handheld of all time. That's why I got those 20 free games. Yeah, that's because they had to chop the price down. Yeah. So so it came out for two fifty and then literally within, I think, three to six months, they dropped it a hundred dollars. And so to apologize to all the early adopters, they called us Nintendo ambassadors and they're like, hey, we're going to give you these 20 free games. That's the same. And what's cool? These games, you couldn't even access on the 3DS eShop at the time. They didn't even come up. And when they had that, it's cool when they dropped the price on the 3DS, too, it was the first time Nintendo sold the system for a loss. Wow. Let's you know how desperate they were to try to turn that around. So we know how we and we worked out. Yeah. So like a 75 million, it sounds crazy, but that's how their their handhelds are crazy successful. Like DS sold 150 twice as much as 3DS did. So it's I think like even when you look at the long term sales for Switch, too, I don't think it needs to hit the heights of Switch. Like Switch has a chance to possibly hit 150, 160, maybe. But my thing is, and I kind of look at this like a PlayStation 2 situation. Nintendo can't look at the next system as we need to top what what Switch did. No, you want to be consistently 100 million plus. If you could just do that every generation moving forward, you're going to be very happy, very profitable. And so yeah, every now and then maybe you'll have a system that peaks up like Switch did. But I think Switch 2 could legitimately hit like 100 million plus. And even if that ends up being 40 million less than Switch, it would be Nintendo's like third best selling system ever. Yeah. That's why I stand as well. I'm mad at that. Like it could even be the second best, you know, if it gets ahead of we. So it's it's one of those things where the thing is, and I think why Switch 2 is in a more unique situation is one there still isn't a lot of competition from traditional consoles. You are getting handheld PCs. But there's still people still aren't comfortable necessarily always using PCs. And you don't get the exclusive games, right? So there are exclusive PC games by the way, but they're not marketed by these individual platforms because nobody none of these platforms own these games. Valve technically does. And they're just not putting anything out. We know Valve doesn't really make games that much anymore. So that kind of sucks. But Steam Deck is so awesome. I love these handheld PCs. I literally just said I was playing Age of Empires 4 literally like all last week. It's been awesome. But my my big thing is that Nintendo has the games people want to play. You're going to get hopefully bigger, better, even more imaginative than we got on Switch, which is even crazy to think about. Hopefully some brand new IPs at Slap as well. And they're potentially going to end up getting more third party support than even Switch got because there's a lot of third parties that felt like they missed out on Switch by not getting on board right away. And the form factor I don't think is tired in the community. This isn't something that people are sick of. No, people are loving this. They just want a more powerful one so their Nintendo games can run better. Yeah, agree. Agree. Some guy just literally hardmodded his Switch to add four gigabytes of RAM and got to run at 4K. Now, granted, I was running at like 15 FPS. So it's not like it was playable, per se. But the point was it's like, man, that's how desperate people are to just on Nintendo official hardware. Can we just play Nintendo games at higher frame rates and higher resolutions? And that's what Switch 2 has the ability to give us a more modern version of what people already love that doesn't even feel data. Like when I hold this up, despite the bezels and everything, this still feels like a modern platform. It doesn't feel of my iPhone. It doesn't feel aged out of the current technological world. So that's the thing is Nintendo built a system that just kind of fits in. So you just keep advancing in that way. And I think Switch 2 could really be a massive success for them. Again, I don't know that it'll peak like Switch 2 because Switch had the benefit of the pandemic situation that I think ended up boosting sales. Maybe by an extra 20 million or so, then it may be at what I've done. But, man, I truly think that Switch 2 is going to be another hundred million seller. This isn't going to be like a Wii U situation. And see, we felt very lightning in a bottle hard to replicate. This doesn't feel like a gimmick. This is just this is what people want. They want to be able to play on the go and play at home. And they don't want to have to switch devices to do it. Yeah, I agree. This is the motion controls. Yeah, yeah. I think that that will be a motion control. Like they kind of switches like the amalgamation of everything Nintendo has ever done, except they didn't put the D-pad on. Yeah, I would like a D-pad. I would like a D-pad or at least swappable. Like, I know why they did this because you can use it as a standard controller. But I would like, like, maybe even a swappable version where you can swap in the D-pad. I feel like that would be great. I feel like there's something. Yeah, yeah. I know a lot of people are saying that. I mean, I've said it a lot. They just said it that 2020 is responsible for a lot of the sales and I'm crossing for the Nintendo Switch. I think there's 20, 30 million sales happening on Switch. Yeah, but think about this way now. Those are 30 million more fans that got to switch. Those are 30 million people that just became Switch users that we can't rule out when the next system comes out that they just continue to support the Nintendo Switch, right? They're not just going to debuff and disappear with the Switch too. They're going to continue to, you know, purchase. They're going to buy the next time we're crossing. Maybe they've never bought a Nintendo Switch. And Animal Crossing was that Switch selling system because people wanted that. Yes, you know, though, because like the Animal Crossing, in my experience, the Animal Crossing fandom is very casual. So it's like very casual. Their switches might be collecting dust or sold or like. So I do agree, though, that you have that install base, that brand new install base. But yeah, I wouldn't say 30 million equals 30 million. It's the next Animal Crossing sells another 40 million. I will be a believer then that it is now a mega franchise. Like right now I'm a believer it's going to sell 20 million plus again. I did the 40 million plus like it feels very pandemic driven. Right game, right time, perfect time. Everyone's looking for time, waste or games. But I'm out at the time, but the other games, too. So again, if it does it again, then my God, it's bigger than Pokemon. So let's say, yeah, let's say that we are all bigger because they have all the other stuff going on. So yeah, pandemic, we gained 30 million new users for the Switch. I to be fair, OK, so the 10 million of those 30 million. Yeah, we will proceed and people who only bought Switch through the pandemic that will now consider the next system for sure. Yeah, exactly. So we came into the fans, really into the fans during the pandemic. Then, you know, they didn't only pan them across and they bought animal. I mean, Mario Kart wasn't every single bundle they wanted to give us. So, you know, they got they got Animal Crossing because I remember seeing a whole bunch of TikTok videos and and YouTube. Well, YouTube shows one that was nothing back then, right? You know, videos of people playing during the pandemic, playing Mario Kart, playing all these multiplayer games on their Switch. So, you know, Animal Crossing was a big driver because of the immersiveness of just you getting your mind away from what's happening out here and put it in here. But then so were also all these multiplayer games like Mario Kart sports, Switch sports and other games that that, you know, parents with their kids or siblings or even adults in one room could gather this to play games together, right? So, you know, they might have bought a Switch because this is the only console where you can actually find those several games and play them, you know, with their family and friends at that point. So I mean, I know 2020 was bad. It's horrible. It's the worst year, the worst year ever in history. But when it comes to Switch sales, at least I can say maybe 10, 50 million people. You can say we came fans of the Nintendo Switch and we're able to, you know, we can see them with Switch, too. Yeah, well, as much as I want to keep talking about Animal Crossing, because I love it so much. And at some point, I swear, Patrick, we just we need to do like we need to get we need to do like an Animal Crossing episode. Damn it. Oh, yeah. Because I love Animal Crossing so much. It's one of my favorites. And now it's a new one, though. We have big episode for it. Well, I will be there because I love it so much. But but I unfortunately have a hard stop. So I got to get my booty in bed because I got to get up and go to work in the morning. So I I'm going to go ahead and head out. But yes, you can find me at Saffron City TV here on YouTube, on Instagram. I try posting into the void on threads, but I don't really like posting into the void. So I don't know. I'm still like, do I take the risk and get on Twitter, you know, in the event anything happens to my YouTube channel? I do need to be able to contact YouTube. And if they're only on Twitter, yeah, Jesus Christ. Yeah, you tell you, you mentioned that, Nate. And I haven't been thinking about that ever since you said so. But I'm scared because I don't I'm not I am just not prepared to be inundated with negativity. I need positivity. I need happy vibes in my life. That's why I come on the podcast. I mean, worse, because I don't follow the account. So I mean, you have to use it. Yeah, I mean, I do have an account, but I just don't I don't use it. So that being said, I just know that a lot of communication, all basically all communication goes on over there. I'm just not prepared for the toxicity. That being said, you can absolutely find me on YouTube and Instagram. I'm most active on those two platforms. I make videos about Pokemon regions. So if you like Pokemon regions, if you like big giant four hour long videos to take up half of your morning or half of your work day, come check it out. I've got a playlist full of stuff just for you. And outside of that, right now I'm taking it easy and just working on future projects. So there's still plenty more to to come. So but anyway, thank you so much, Nate, again, for having me on the podcast. I always enjoy coming on the podcast. It's always a hoot, so I really appreciate you having me. And I really enjoyed the discussion we all had today. It was great to meet you at Thunderstache. I'm sorry, I've lost your name at this point. You're just understashed to me now. It works. It was good to see you, Nate. It was good to see you, Eric. It was good to see you, Mike. And it's good to see you, Ninten Talk, and I appreciate y'all having me. No problem. I'll hit you up for the next month. All right, I'll talk to you then. Have a good night. Good to meet you. Bye. That's a brutal. So 2024, I think it's possible. Yeah, I do, too. Look, until Nintendo tells me otherwise, until we get a direct or like, look, there's nothing happening after June. Yeah, that's where I stand as well. And I said that, I think the last podcast I was on when we talked about Switch 2 until I hear it from Nintendo, it still falls into the category of rumor of hearsay. And again, we haven't heard anything. So things are starting to add up, like you said, Mike. Hey, if we don't hear anything by like next week, you're going to start to feel like 2024 is more likely. Like there's more hope there. Yeah. And that's why I'm at you. It's not ruled out by any means. I want to hear the next directs. There's one 15 more people tap in their screen to get to 150 likes. That's why I want to like it. That'll be a 200 plus all stream. Let's go. Listen, so I think there's one more presentation that's happening before Switch 2. And this is I guarantee. I think I always guarantee this presentation is happening. And it's a Metroid Direct. If it's not a direct, if it's not a Metroid, it's not. If it's not a direct with any other games, it has to be a Metroid Direct, at least Metroid Prime 2 and 3 and then Metroid Prime 4, which will be like the breath of the wild game for the Switch 2 because it'll be a both consoles. That's how I feel about it. You know, I'm like a Metroid fan, but I'm not like a Metroid fan. You know, if I was a Metroid fan, I'm kind of hoping the game doesn't come out on Switch, because like I don't want to switch. I think I think Andrus restarted like starting to feel your vibes. And he he wants it to be on Switch, but he wants to be a dual release with Switch 2, and he's very worried now that it'll just come to Switch. And we won't get that superior version when the system's coming out like right around the corner. Yeah, it's like I don't think the Switch needs a swan song game like that. I think we're good. We're I mean, we have plenty of games. The only reason why I say it is because it's been announced. Yeah, they bring it up in every single meeting, right? It's like every meeting, we don't bring it up in their future game list as TVA. Yeah, so it's there. I'm a eShop, right? It's literally on the eShop. It's on the eShop. I think so. Metroid fanfare is on the eShop. I know it's on stores. It's thinking or just like a little place. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, it's there. It was mentioned. That's the only way. The only reason I say Switch and Switch 2 is just because it's been brought up. If not, I was going to go with Luigi's matching two. That's the last game with Switch and Switch. You can't register your interest in Metroid fanfare and be emailed when it's available for pre-order. Really? That's officially what it says on the eShop. No register your email and let you know when it's coming. Does it say in the eShop? That says that, by the way. Interesting. The next direct is going to be very, very telling. Like, is it a mini direct? Is it more ports and more like remasters and stuff? If that's the case, I'm kind of like on the 2024 train. If it's, you know, it has a bunch of exciting announcements. If they highlight Metroid and like, I think then it's 2025. I don't know. I just think Nintendo is gearing up because right now presentation season is happening. Summer Game Fast that under the steel from here on, we know I think next month is that. They could deal June with a special reveal, man. They could do it. Exactly. That would be amazing. Yeah. Those rumors we heard could be a smokescreen. Really good. Set up by Nintendo. Yep. Yeah, Nintendo sends all the guys, hey, every game's ready for next year. Oh, by the way, JK is still this holiday, but we wanted you to shut up. Yeah. Especially in the age we live in now where everything gets leaked, including full games, getting leaked on the internet weeks early, you know? So don't be surprised. Nintendo would be the one to do that. Yeah. Obviously, these leaders, because they're being trolled, let them write. But, you know, it's it's fine. Well, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I mean, we obviously don't know. You know, and again, this whole topic wasn't the shed doubt on necessarily on the people that decided it's next year, because I'm sure they have legit sources, but people would dev kits. You guys are all dev kits for a long time. It would make sense, regardless, even if you think the platforms in 2026, it would still make sense for some developers to have dev kits. So it's one of those things where I look, obviously nothing's official until it comes from Nintendo. For everyone who tries to tell me, though, that there isn't a new platform coming, then you're actually not listening to Nintendo because they have already admitted a new platform is coming. They're just not giving it a name or a release date or anything right now. So, but they've literally all the way back in 2021, they said, oh, Nintendo accounts are moving forward to our new platform in 20XX. They were just telling you right there they're working on a new platform. So they've said they actually repeated that again at their last financial meeting. So we know what's going on. And don't worry, the thunderstache is coming back. Yeah, listen, it does say Metro Prime is currently in development for Nintendo Switch. So I do think it's been very quiet. Yeah, like you said, Mike, like something feels if I could I feel it to I really do. I'm not just saying that. I've been thinking that it's been so quiet. And I'm like, endless ocean. Come on, man, like that's it's not it's not going to move systems. And I know they know that. But one. I just why that game didn't come out. The 2020 was the perfect time because everyone's at home, 30 player online. Another chill game. Man, I might have moved like 10 million units back then. Now it's perfect here and might not even hit a mill. I mean, it wasn't even in a Nintendo Direct yet either. It was in like a partner thing. Part of technically a direct. A part. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for it. I'll be buying it day one. Hey, it does look good. That three minute that. No, sorry. Three minute and like 45 second trailer. They dropped those pure gameplay. Nothing else is so good. Dude, it was so relaxing. I was an ocean animal. I'm literally watching it on my TV behind me, literally just looping like ocean animals. And I'm like, dude, this is like, I get it. This is a vibe. Let me say it. Let me let me say it. And well, I will be checking out the reviews. I mean, I'm not buying it day one, but it's not to say. I won't buy it. I'll I'll check out the reviews to see what the vibe is. See what the people are saying. If I will rule, you know, it's real good. We say, we say, we say, we say, do not eat before you do swim. You have to make sure wait an hour before you play in the social. I assure you, I'm not those treasure chest. Um, I'm interested out of a 30 player thing is going to work out. Yeah, they didn't have that in the old game. So I'm very curious how that's there's some explanations on the Japanese rough set. I went over it in the BG news episode, but I'm very curious, like how interactive it's really going to be. We'll see. I'm pretty. I'll buy it when they release the DLC with harpoon guns that you can start shooting at each other at the 30. Oh, my God. Happy great. Actually, I wouldn't be able to do a battle royale in the ocean. Yep. We're blowing the water. Isn't this a new monkey ball that's coming out for switch? Does it not have like some crazy 30 or more multiplayer as well? I think it does. Yeah. And the first thing I thought is I wonder how that's going to run. Drop all the crazy player, baby. Yeah, whatever, whatever crazy, dumb idea you had. Drop it now and see what happens. Yeah. It's only like the Lego movie, like with a little choppy choppy. You mean like how for nine runs when there's more than five people trying to shoot each other? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's bad. You'd be fair. That's Unreal Engine five now. It ran way better when it was just four on switch. That's all right. They had to update it because the rest of the game updated. All right. I think we're going to probably just call the show there. I think we're good on the conversation. Let's see, guys, if anything else switch to related, you want to add in. I didn't dive deep into the possible lineup, of course, but you can always do that in another episode. All right. So we're going to room then. I mean, I think the silence is everyone's just in agreement. So we're, oh, wait. Erica, something to add. No, oh, I thought you were putting your thumbs up because, yeah, we were good to move on. OK, cool. Well, we're moving on. This would be Q&A time, but we had zero questions submitted for the first time. So it happens. No questions. That's fine. So instead, we're going to go around, let people know where they can find us and what you have going on in the upcoming content you'd like to advertise. And then, yeah, we're going to call it there. So let's start with I can't do thunderstache. We just have to go first. That's a great name, by the way. Well, I forget the user, but thank you for that nickname. That might stick, actually. But yeah, you guys can find me on YouTube at Thunder Steve 85 Gaming. I do video game reviews, of course. I review new games, old games. My next review is going to be Contra Shattered Soldier. And that's because I reviewed the new Contra that came out and everyone in the comments was like, you got to review Shattered Soldier. That was a game I had bought. I had it pre-ordered at Best Buy, literally, I think, 22 years ago. I only know because I looked it up when it came out. I don't remember that off the top of my head, guys. So I went back and replayed it. I beat it. I got my footage. I got to write my review and do that. And then next, I'm doing UDN Chronicles. I might have said that wrong. But the sequel's coming out, I think, on April 24th, 3rd, UDN Chronicles, 100 Heroes. Yep. So I need to get that done next. But yeah, you guys can find me there. I'm on Twitter as well, Thunder Steve 85. But I don't do much there, except for follow Wario64 for video game deals. Never find the DNs. Hey, when are you coming to show? Yeah, pretty much. So find me at YouTube Thunder Steve 85 Gaming. Thanks, guys. There we go. So we're going to go over to Donkey Pun. I mean, I mean, oh, man. Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Nintendo talk this Saturday. I'm doing a seven year anniversary of my channel. I started on YouTube seven years ago. Happy birthday. Congrats. But I'll be giving away a bunch of stuff, including a Nintendo Switch. I'll stop by if you start at 12 goes for seven hours. So be live streaming seven years. Oh, then in addition to the eight, it would have been 16 hours. But I did say, hey, the channel's old enough to drive legally in the United States. So now we'll not to drink yet, though. We got ways to go for that. That might be a kind of a big celebration. That might be a big celebration. Yeah, that might be a big one. The channel's old enough to have some fun. We have to get a Nintendo Prime plushie at that time and start shoving it down his throat. Here you go. Just run a two minute. And no price bomb. Just feel, Mr. Puckett, just a beer bomb that you just dump it down and I drink it. Anyways, I'm sorry, I got too many good ideas. Or maybe these are horrendous ideas. Maybe these are I don't want to live anymore ideas. Daisy Odyssey, what are you going on? I don't know. I just realized that Daisy Odyssey is because of my shirt I'm wearing. Yeah, you just realized that. I just realized. Yeah, I just realized that. Oh, you can find me at the Mike Odyssey channel, YouTube channel is like right. It's neighbor to Nate. Although that's how I see it. When I look at my YouTube channels, like Nate is right there. So I just click on it and then it's like neighbors. So we're we're we're in the middle of under construction right now, although we have every almost daily videos on updated topics when it comes to news. But every Friday now we have the with with the next little crew out there at 8.30 p.m. Eastern time, you can pass by there and watch us live. Nate's Wednesday. I think Andres is Monday and I'm on Friday. So like Monday, Friday and Wednesday, you know, podcast week. And then the Mike Odyssey show, which is still under construction coming soon to a to a screen near you. We're pretty, pretty, pretty much a lot of cool stuff. So so yeah, stay tuned for that. I love that. Pretty much a lot of cool stuff. A lot of cool stuff. It's an actual TV show. If you look at the tonight show. It's just like if you watch BG News, if you watch Gamer's Nexus. Listen, it's everything. It's everything. It's everything without Jimmy Fallon. So it might be good, then. Yes, it's like everything about Jimmy Fallon just take Jimmy Fallon out and just put Mike Aussie in the middle like that. And then you carry instead, because that's what I'd like to host. So carry. Yeah, he'll be on the show one day. One day. Right. He'll be on the show one day. Awesome. Mr. Bricked up. What are you going on? I'm here and we're two likes away from 150. So come on. One like one like one hour one like we just got one. Yeah, I'm on people come on. Come on. As we watch it go down. Yeah, it's going to go down. Damn it. Hey, we hit it. We hit it. 150. Thank you guys. Nice. Yeah, I don't think Eric is here next week. Possibly. I mean, we got two episodes left in season two and then possible little rebrand stuff going on. We're kind of waiting to see you guys are awesome. Thank you so much for being here. You can find the general prime podcast almost everywhere. Podcasts are heard whenever I decide to pay the damn bill because I haven't paid the bill yet for the audio version. My bad. That might not get paid for a couple of weeks because I'm not paid for a couple of weeks. I missed it. Whoops. Whoops. Really important bill of mine. Whoops. We have the apple one for the apple one because you know the people with a Spotify. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's for Podbean that spreads my podcast to everything. Even Apple to even Apple. Yes, even Apple sends it to me. Oh, man, I got to get a podcast is down right now. You can't even find the audio version. It doesn't. You know, Podbean is bad. What? Is that what you said? You know what, Mike? We got to end this thing right now. Hey, let's go ahead and pop that outro.