 We're here at the ID Tech X show and I'm on the booth of PCAS with Swan. Swan, hi, thanks for tuning in with us. Hello. Tell us a little bit about the company, what do you do? So we are a custom manufacturer of specialty chemicals. So we're working with the companies on our project, for instance. So they want to design a new molecule, but they have no chemical expertise. We ask for us to add some properties to work it a little bit more in order to also make the synthesis easier. And then at the end of that we can do the abscade part also. And so do you develop your own IP in this area or is your client's IP and you're acting with us a consulting service to them? Both, actually. So mostly on the custom part it's the IP of our clients. But then we do also have some proprietary molecules that we can use for OPV or OPV applications. And these are for the semiconductor layers or OPV or some of the other layers involved? Semiconductive layers. So we try to exit the lifetime. Right, right. And how are you doing on that? Where are you up to? So actually we have worked with Lab in Canada. So it was Mario Leclerc teams and we had these new polymers, which is called carbazole. And we're working on different radicals that we can add on these molecules to have a beneficial effect. Tell us a bit about the company background. How old is the company and how long have you been involved in printed electronics? Actually the company, PKS company, since 62 in France. And then in the 80s we acquired Saint-Jean Photochimie, which is a Canadian R&D contract services type of company. And they had an experience in photochemicals. And we actually added this experience to our portfolio. And since then, so 30 years ago, we have this expertise. And are you seeing more uptake in the industry? You see more interest coming around organic electronics and printed electronics? Yes, we have a lot of demons. Actually the problem that managed here is the supply chain is not really well set up for the moment. So you have a lot of questions from the applicative sites, asking for some developments about materials. But we're not doing R&D with a big R. And so we're doing the development, chemical development. And for that it's real difficult for the application side oriented companies to find good partners all along the chain. Right. And what would you say to summarize differentiates you versus your competitors in this space? Wow, to sum it up in a few words, I would say the low metal expertise. So that's for organics. So we're not dealing with metal materials. And we have various applications also. So working on OPV, OPV display, it's really interesting to see synergies in the different materials or the different quality systems also, as we're doing some from microelectronics and to replicate it in the printed electronics. Great. Thank you. Thanks so much. You're welcome. Anytime. And thanks for the event. Thanks. Thank you.