 I'm Kinsey Grant and I am here with David Callaway the chairman and CEO of the street and Mr. Callaway We're dying to know who are you wearing today? Thanks Kinsey This is actually an ox of a mass to prevent for better breathing because This morning when we all woke up here in Los Angeles It was a massive fire burning about an hour away up in Ventura. It's probably you know a hundred miles Maybe but the smoke is already here and if you go outside in the conference where a lot of the conference is Everybody's wearing these because it's really bad. It's it's very you know I don't think anybody down in LA is in danger, but it's very very startling thousands of homes So, you know what we saw up in northern California in October is repeating itself here and We can see the ramifications A little more about why the street is here at the LD micro conference Well for one thing where the exclusive video sponsor the LD micro conference is one of I would say you know for me as a CEO trying to reach out to investors There's three or four conferences that are kind of highlights of the calendar year and this is the one at the end of the Year never miss it Chris Lahiji who runs the conference business does a great job He's built it up from scratch over the last 10 15 years And there's hundreds of people here as I'm sure you'll get some footage and stuff So can you tell us what kind of trends or themes have you been sensing while you're just walking around here at the conference? Well, obviously the markets at a peak right so everybody this is where people this was Investors generally come to meet microcap companies like ours And look for value and and growth opportunities right values hard to find when the markets in a peak There's pockets of it obviously So I think one of the times things I'm sensing is there's a little bit more caution this year about where they Want to go in based on how much higher the market could go But that said, you know you get companies that make the face masks and companies to do all sorts of unusual things Mixed in with financial media companies like ours. There's plenty of opportunity if you're willing to look around