 Back to the Nintendo Prime podcast season 2 episode 39 or shall we say the Milwaukee Bucks podcast today? Today, we're gonna be talking with Damien Lillard being traded to the Milwaukee Bucks We have a heat fan a Celtic fan and two guys who don't give a shit He was wearing the Brewer attire, so I was like priorities at the moment Well, I Just want to start out by saying I don't appreciate being banned in the chat. That's not keeping it clean The problem was the person saying he wasn't keeping it clean But I said even get hidden it says filthy yo in it. I'm just No, someone said they were keeping it filthy. So I said hey, don't be keeping it filthy. Yeah You see but by saying that you're contributing to contributing to be keeping it nasty. That's fine. Oh, it took a turn Alright Today when we talk about what a shocker Nintendo switch to and also sort of the shocker of the day Jim Ryan stepping down over at Sony and what that might mean for the future of the company because feels a little sudden But we don't really know how sudden it really was only because they don't have a replacement It wasn't like when Reggie stepped down and they're like, oh, yeah, Doug Bowser stepping in No, they don't actually have a replacement for him right now. So quite interesting How that decision came to be we have no idea because it was all behind the scenes We'll talk about that and then we'll be taking questions from the chat if you guys want to get questions in for our last topic All you do is you super chat it in for as little as two bucks get your question And we save it for the Q&A section unless it's extremely relevant to whatever we're talking about them on with them We might bring it up, but Otherwise we should get our pockets started the way we always do introducing everyone and what have we been playing lately So let's start it with the keep it clean guy All right over there. We've been playing lately. Well, I've been keeping it clean first and foremost Always got to keep it clean Rated about PG is in your playlist this week. That's well, yes I actually I got I forgot that I ordered it, but I got the Pikmin one and two physical on Switch, so I I've been playing that and then I was going to play Lies of P But I bought it the day before Pikmin showed up my doorstep. So I've neglected that haven't touched it Um played a little bit of Pokemon just competitive online battles as usual Uh, a couple weeks ago. I was playing uh, Pokemon stadium two haven't touched that since Um on ns. So so not playing a ton this week, but that's pretty much it Okay, cool. Andress What you got going on and uh, what are you gonna play? I haven't been playing much. I'm a fake gamer Hey, hey keep it clean You think him I'm just messing around. Um, I haven't played that much. I I've played a little bit of tears to the kingdom. Um, that's it I've been kind of on a I've been binge watching a particular show recently What show suits suits nice I actually got through all nine seasons Yeah, nice. I'm I just the first eight on netflix and then they have the ninth one on uh prime I've heard Yeah Yeah, no, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I like it. It's kind of like, um Like a more realistic batman and robin I kind of I kind of get what you're saying. Yeah, I heard that description before It kind of makes sense though thinking back I just finished it like two weeks ago. They actually refer to themselves as batman and robin a few times. So I think there's so many good References to other movies within that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, those two have so many Yeah, just I I'll just say I hate to say the final season's disappointing. Is it a is it a finale season? Does it actually end? Yeah, it ends. Okay. Thank god. I hate there's one thing about it. That's really good, but the lack of Returning cast is not yeah. Yeah. There's one thing. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean It's the fact that there has to be returning cast. It's also part of the problem I'm in season three. You don't ruin it for me guys All right. Also, I I had no idea Like finished the show. I was like, oh, that's what she's famous for You didn't you didn't know the one the one main woman in there is you know married to the prince, right? Yeah, Megan Markle. That's what I just said I messed up that the end of the show basically was She basically was supposed to keep it clean. She wasn't keeping it clean Yeah Anyways, anyways, I don't want to ruin it because obviously there's a lot of seasons before you get to that So it's like I'm just gonna pretend it's all honky-dory. So no, the show's amazing It really is. Um, I miss it. I miss it. I wish I wish there was more but you could just rewatch it Yeah, it's just no. I don't re rewatch things that often I rewatch And this doesn't even replay old games So I we've had this conversation many a time, but I think For the shows and games that kind of really like leave an imprint upon you like the ones that actually hit you It's okay to go back to them after a few years and re-experience them It's okay to go back anytime you want. I it's just not okay for me That's one of my favorite things to do That's what I've watched Breaking Bad seven times and counting just because I've done the same thing actually some bro, but like so one of my favorite things When it comes to old games the reason I like part of the reason I like to revisit them Is because sometimes when I try to play a new game, especially like modern generation like games coming out today I have like I have to pay so much attention and like learn the controls And sometimes I feel overwhelmed trying to explore every nook and cranny and sometimes the game like here's the kingdom That's a really fun experience But sometimes I want to shut my brain off Yep, and there you go something where I know exactly where to go. I can grind what I want and And and it's just like comfort food for me for the soul. You know what? I mean, I'm right there with you Comfort food. I just play house Yeah, I hear you there. That's keep it clean for me rpg's Like a lot of rpg's It's really tough for me to get into an rpg Whenever I especially like whenever we're like watching a talent director and like oh look at all the menus and all the stats And all the customization and I just see oh, that looks like a lot of work. I don't want to get into that You know what games look like every time they show it you take that back But it's you can't deny Yes, if you're not a fan of the series or you don't know about the series It does look like you watch one of those debut trailers. There's so much shit going on Sure I mean there is a lot going on that the combat systems are pretty deep and there are several different things you want to kind of account for to really maximize It's just for like new players. I can see what's overwhelming. Yeah And I guess the interesting thing about xenoblade though that it's beyond just the rpg stuff, right? Like it's a real-time combat system. So like like and each one they make sure feels different from all the others And each one is like very deep and feels very satisfying wants to get the hang of it Yeah, especially xenoblade too, which is like the hardest to figure out Yeah, that's true. Um All right, uh, eric what are you even playing lately? I mean you just found your switch. So like yeah, no Stop panicking about that. Um, yeah, so nothing because I couldn't find my switch till today It wasn't for lack of trying to play um Yeah, I just couldn't find my switch and then I have I was texting Nate yesterday And I'm like I happen to leave my switch over at your house because I bring it over. I actually have it here today um And he goes no no, I'm like what the hell I had searched my room top to bottom And then all of a sudden I walk into my room and look down on the floor and it's literally Literally laying right there and like as if someone left your room. Yeah, right? Pick your room. Yeah, not me. Was your room dirty? No keeping it dirty Is it messy? Keep it clean That actually surprised I don't know if I've ever been in a we all know where our switch is because we keep it After your mom cleaned it in high school That's fine if he's keeping it clean. I don't I just realize a switch to you feature that they should have Well, you're gonna bring that up in the switch that one of those, uh, iphone style beep where it's at Yep, type things. Yep. That's it. Yeah, and he goes both ways. How are you wanting to take wavelength right now? What just happened? Well, eric talked about losing a switch and it's a mobile gaming device and andre said I know a switch to feature. That's boom right there My iphone for my watch all the time No, him and I would be really good partners in law and in suce. We would be like we'd slay it. Yeah. Yeah, there you go Yeah All right. Um So eric when playing anything. No, I again not for lack of trying. I just So, yeah, I tried to play games this week. Hey, you drafted a player for me. I didn't I did he's the best player in my draft I did. Thank you. I win 94 speed hidden running back. That's right. Okay Take the leak by storm. Oh guys prepare to be height Detective Pikachu comes out next week Next week Yeah, I gotta play the 3ds one It may have a lot of 3ds. Did you know it's surprisingly easy to mod a 3ds? I need to do that to mine still I haven't done it It's actually so easy and you just get a One terabyte sd card put the whole library plus bs and gba. Yeah, there's no reason for me not to do that I'm glad you said that actually that's gonna be a project for this upcoming week Well, it's cool. So sombra. What do you got going on one? I haven't seen you in like forever Yeah, it's been a while. I gotta talk about behind the scenes stuff. That's that's you Yeah, no, no, thank thanks for remembering me even in the long absence. I appreciate that I was texting you throughout here and there. Yeah, I was just checking on my friends Um, what are you going on? What are you even playing? I know you've been playing something Yes, not as much as I want to but I actually have a fun story and it actually ties into Replaying games that we love so So when me and my fiance rolled the credits on tears of the kingdom and no spoilers But the final boss fight packs a legitimate punch in difficulty And my fiance was not like she's not like a core gamer. Like she was in a party game. She knows I just didn't hear that tears of the kingdom tears of the kingdom legit hard final boss fight and I mean Like, you know the part leading up to the very end and very legitimately hard in my opinion So she's got a warm description. Yeah, so that's keeping it clean. That's keeping it clean I'm trying trying to live up to your standards, jake So we rolled the credits on that and then I realized I'm like, you know what because she wasn't such a core gamer before I'm like you you're you're ready for the next step You got to play like a hardcore challenging game that's going to make you like hate yourself And you're going to have to get good enough to get past it So we've been playing through dark souls remastered together Which is a reason for me to replay one of my all-time favorites in hopes that she'll get hooked into the whole soul series And I'll have a reason to replay all of them And so far past Ornstein and smoe right now past the whole What is it the forgotten says the something fortress A giant fortress with the swinging axes It's like the true test of the game and when the game really opens up and you get the warp after you beat that It's like right outside the giant walls that lead to the yes the double boss fight. So that's where that's as of last night That's what we got to in that game, which has been great. Also Jake, I noticed you mentioned lies of p earlier I played just the beginning portions of that game and as somebody who is like I mean souls games are at the top all the way up there with zelda and metroid for me And I'm very picky on souls like games Like I've I've played a ton of them that claim to be souls like and the mechanics just never feel like quite On point enough it feels like you die because the game messed something up And that's one of my favorite things about dark souls is it's like you die because you didn't do it Right or you or you have to learn the mechanics enough to get past what you're stuck on Lies of p has a very very similar feeling to a dark souls slash bloodborne And I'm pretty impressed with it just just beating the first boss and getting like kind of that payoff I was like, all right. I might be in for the long haul in this game. That's what I've been hearing that it's like it's like It's it's not quite there, but it's so close It feels really good compared to other like souls clones But I also heard that some of the customization you can get with like changing out your arms and stuff like deep into the game That's crazy. So it adds something new that makes it really fun, too So I have to try it. It's cool lore and story to it also like I mean, I it I'm legitimately impressed by it I've I'm not far enough in to say very much, but I'm impressed by what I've seen so far Yeah, I've always wanted to play it to me timothy shall we video game. So I'm excited. Yep Definitely worth it. Yeah, that's it for me lately nice Then we get to uh good old me that nobody cares But you know, we'll we'll just briefly mention a few things I've touched on this last week Little bit of a world of warcraft both the dragonflight and classic Leveling in there and my mac puts age of empires four as well on my uh laptop here because again Microsoft won't bring it to mac you bastards. Um, that's okay People who care about their job well, that's not keeping it clean I'm sorry. Um, let me see. I played a little bit. Here's the kingdom this week I'm a switch. I had some fun that put a few hours in Still just sort of going for all the shrines and everything and doing my thing Because I do plan to get all the shrines in the game and I do plan to do all the side quests eventually Um, we'll not be 100 because I'm not going to do all the corex seeds. Just don't really feel like it Uh, what else? Uh, I also dabbled. I finally played at 0.99 It's fun. I forgot to play that. That's fine. That's that's a lot of fun I almost I balked out my switch. I almost played it on the on the podcast last week I basically played like a couple races the night before I go to bed So it's it's a lot of fun. Have you gotten a have you gotten a dub yet? No The people are getting too good. It's like too too good too quick. I think Yeah, but it's okay. I get lucky and play at the right time and get matched with like people that Yeah, you know, all the kids get out of school at the time Anyways, let me see Uh, what else I play I feel like there's a game I'm missing. I mean, I dabbled a little bit in Madden this week But I play that every week. Um I think that's it. I think I'm gonna kind of just chill in waiting for the next wave No, we got like that's a that's a lot of things to be playing in one week Oh, that was the other one I forgot I put a couple more hours Oh Did you game break? What do my game break? No, my game break I uh As you know, I'm one of the people that that gave up on starfield only a few hours in and Again, they're interested enough. Don't think it's a bad game. Just could tell it was a very but that's the game And I just knew it wasn't gonna be for me What I've heard what I want to ask me is that like it's like the 10 hour mark on average where Everyone says oh it gets so much better really Have you gotten that far yet? Are you like getting about seven hours in so okay? So you're like getting I'm like in the home stretch of the tutorial. Yeah, do you see yourself finishing the game? There's no such thing as finishing a game like starfield It's a man credits. There's credits main quest though I don't know. I don't know. I'll finish the main quest to be honest. Here's the thing I've heard a lot of people say that like You want to finish the main story as quick as possible And then going around to other places is a lot more fun But for me it was like I don't I just don't want to put in all that time. Here's the thing I'm probably not gonna finish it. Um, but that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying it like that's It's gotten to the point that every video game that comes out wants 100 plus hours of my time And I'm just not gonna give it so there's only a select few games that will get that time out of me Um, and for the most part it's because I like playing such a wide variety of content that I'll play it as long as I'm still entertained here and there and if starfield ever gets to the point that I'm not as entertained Or my desire to play other stuff is bigger than it'll be dropped and I just won't play it anymore That's a nice thing to a game pass those. I don't feel guilty. They didn't fucking pay for it Yeah game pass is nice. I didn't pay for it. So like it's not a big deal I think lies that he was on game pass. That's how I'm playing it. Yeah Damn it. All right Like a drop now Starfield might get dropped now. Damn it. Yep. Download it Okay, I think somebody told me that in a live stream too, and I just forgot I should just Literally during my stream now just go download it um Anyways, yeah, that's a lot of stuff that I've been playing I suppose and again I'm just waiting on the next wave the assignment superstars coming up spider-man 2 mario wonder Uh, we have a big month. I mean just have to pick a true returns as well Well, I'm gonna wait and see what the reviews are like on that before I pick it up. I enjoyed the first one a lot So I'm probably that's like that's my goals to pick up the first one for a little bit this week I saw the movie. So I'm probably fine to just jump in the second game, but I like to play in order if I can Yeah, well, I mean look the first one was pretty good. So I'm like, oh the second one's probably good too But I'm just gonna wait and kind of do with the reviews. So how long it on average it took you to beat Nate I mean, I beat the first one in less than 20 hours But okay, I mean 20 hours kind of a lot And not today Well, no, no, I yeah not in general what I want to play the game next week an hour game for 20 hours Oh, yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying if I want to play the game next week and some of those games are like 10 hours But wasn't like the order 1896 or whatever the hell it was the people bitched it because it was too short It was three hours. Yeah So honestly, that is a great game because there's no filler. It's just on the whole way through it was Started to finish. Yeah, I want more but also damn. That was really fun. I don't you don't have that much fun in a three hour period That's sick Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean whatever. I understand like, you know I like I like a variety of game lengths and I do like a game that you can beat in one night or like a couple nights Yeah, so Yeah, I miss those days because there's not that many games anymore that are like Very rare game comes up. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm done it tonight. I can just Say say This is say Genesis SNES era you're renting a game for the weekend and beating it by time It's time to return it, you know If you can yeah, sometimes you have to repeat rent the same game like six or seven times before it finally happens No, yeah. Anyways, at that point you might as well just bought the damn thing Cost on renting, uh, but you know what you just never had that 60 bucks at a time You had your weekly allowance, but just enough to rent it Um, anyways, oh, it's this main main story on detective Pikachu is 12 hours completionist is 14 hours Oh, well, I took longer. It is what it is Yeah, I mean that's that's in the range, but that's good. Well, I mean it's it's I don't power through games, you know I just kind of chill and play and Sometimes it's like it's it's like my next door neighbor is doable You know, I can get I can get that back man Sorry, mr. Jenkins is a wonderful man. I shouldn't talk about him like that That's hilarious That is actual babe. I shouldn't laugh but mr. Jenkins mr. Jenkins. Hey Don't call molding Jim Jim was a jingle hymer smith. Yeah Oh boy. Anyways, yeah Let's get into our first topic. You know people are kind of waiting for us to actually talk about video games. No Um, don't do that. We're doing it. We're doing a good next The latest on switch 2 is our first topic Look every week there's at least a little bit of something that seems to happen for switch 2 some rumors some stuff floating out there Didn't even touch on the zippo stuff that I could toss in there if anyone wants to bring it up um It's up to it's up to the audience if they if they want to hear any of that stuff I already did videos on it But some of the more incredible things out there that we could probably stand behind a bit more things like Necro Felipe today from nintendo universal coming out and saying far cry 7 is going to be day and date on nintendo switch 2 That tells you two things and then he was asked Oh, do you just mean day and date like when switch 2 launches and he said no day and date with the other consoles Which tells you yep that the system will launch before the game comes out. So there's that Game is my 25. I'm confused. I'm just going to ask a clarifying question. Yeah Was that the dev that then backtracked on it? No, it said no, no That was that small indie game The freaky dinner Big triple Dermi not those I think I don't remember the exact name but it's it's a spanish game. I believe are portuguese. Yeah, so Far cry 7 much bigger deal. Yeah made it as a 2025 release Possibly 2024. We don't really know because ubi-sauce hasn't really talked about it Story details for it leaked today. I don't know if that means it's any closer to being talked about or not But we're not going to talk about the story details of spoilers And the the really neat thing for people that actually are like nintendo fans pay a lot of attention Is he kind of sort of said that the next monster hunter game? That's going to be on like ps5 and xbox series x is also going to be on switch 2 And it was weird because somebody asked them a follow-up question Oh, is this going to be just like the next generation monster hunter game and being on switch 2? And he just said yes And nobody has ever said that it's actually that's going to be on switch 2 the new monster hunter game That hasn't even been announced yet, but it's obviously going to come except the huge franchise So that's kind of cool. So like is that monster hunter world 2? Yeah, we never got the first monster hunter world on nintendo. Obviously, so we got monster under rise and stuff We did and which is really good But monster hunter world is their best-selling one ever So the the sequels highly anticipated and never been on a nintendo platform And yes, I see you furling your brow. It did outsell rise Well rise has been out for less time, but Yeah It's not really that it outsold even when it came to like a pc and other platforms. It's still outsold. Yeah Yep It's still with the success of with the success of rise though. It would be silly for capcom not to You know for not to do it. Well, I mean rise is traditional Rise is traditional monster hunter and world is more like a westernized version And both are popular in their own right, but the westernized version really took off the dlc for it Absolutely blew up and they released that a standalone at one point. So I do Whatever we obviously don't know which monster hunter is being talked about here. Which which one's going to be the next I don't care one monster Well, that's the thing. Yeah, like we're he basically said we're getting it Even though it wasn't something he brought up a fan brought up So Like we should just expect it anyways because monster hunter sells so damn well on nintendo that it'd be stupid not to bring it to switch to this time but still technically It wasn't just far cry seven talked about today by necrophilipe Since we're uh, since we brought up capcom. I have to do my obligatory capcom. Please Make the mega man legends collection a switch to launch title and then bring us mega lend legends Three that would be killer man. Oh, what have you keep it? It would break the internet gosh, honestly, it'd be super clean I uh, I do have a quick thought on this, uh, if we can dive into the topic So I I think I think that far cry seven that's that's cool news And I think the monster hunter is also really cool news that this is potentially headed to switch to but I think this really could potentially be setting the stage for What every nintendo switch gamers actual dream is which is that nothing really gets left out from Nintendo's console anymore like there's at least a chance Outside of exclusives outside of exclusives clearly spider-man 2 is not coming to nintendo switch But in terms of yeah, but spider-man 3 probably not in terms of Outside of those microsoft x or microsoft and sony first party exclusives in terms of all the major third party AAA games I think there is a lot of devs that probably are like I wish we would have worked with the switch more or there Because the success is there this time If they are sticking hybrid form factor and they're hopefully maybe even sticking with the switch name There's a lot of reason for devs did not want to miss out and then like bobby kottick saying At the activision blizzard thing. I wish we would have got call of duty. I think on switch I think there's a lot of devs that probably felt like that that this time are most likely asking nintendo ahead of time For switch to dev kits and that's probably why we're why we're starting to hear some of this these kind of reports. So I Get the best of both worlds game changer especially like year one and two maybe three when Before there's like a refresh for the ps5 and xbox series that's right Maybe certain titles because but you got to look at it Like the amount of work it would take to make a competent port on something that has the power that We believe the the next switch will have Yeah, it's some work like it's you know to port it to anything that's different architecture is some work But the amount of upside like Just the install base that system is going to have It's going to be it's going to be it's going to be more than worthwhile like Of course every dev is going to want to dedicate resources to making sure stuff is going to be on the switch too Yeah, I you know To make a new point because I think everything I say have said it makes sense. Um It it kind of feels like maybe we could be looking at a scenario where Developers are perhaps seeing that What nintendo has established is something that's consistent And it's something they can rely on In other words the same way how people Go into a a new generation for sony and microsoft and expect that certain games will be coming because that's just the norm It may become the case that that will now be the new norm for nintendo as well Which would bode well for sales of switch two doesn't mean switch to beat switch one But it means it won't be a market failure Which no, I I think it's a good point to make because like it's been very inconsistent The difference between the switch launch and the switch to launch and we've talked about it before how Nintendo has been bad with transitions from a good selling console to the next console But the difference is like the we you they messed up so bad so many of these companies Just didn't even try on the switch for years like some of them still barely had anything And I think the difference is a lot of those companies including some like there was never a far cry game on the switch So companies that never put their game on the switch at all Are immediately saying yeah, it's going to be there. So that's a huge difference And that's just going to build up so much momentum right from the start I would also like to quickly point out that the xbox series s actually really helps this argument because microsoft Requires content parity in a version to be workable on both the series x and s And if we're to believe that this is maybe as powerful as a playstation 4 playstation 4 pro or even Potentially a series s but it has dlss to fall back on It shouldn't be that much harder for devs to get a version working If they're already going to do it for the series s and it's a major third party triple a game I don't think the switch two is going to be far away at all That's true. I could I don't know later in the gen especially when xbox does the refresh that was leaked I could see devs just saying I could because some of them have already come this close to saying screw the series s Right and but I could see them absolutely being like absolutely will put on switch two And like switch two getting games that won't run on the series s a couple years down the line I can see that happening It's a little crazy because since it'll have dlss potentially even 3.5 That it means that like unlike the series s they can target like 720p And get a really crisp image on your tv which they can do with the series s So like when you target those lower resolutions, it gives you so much more headroom on performance with your cpu and gpu that Um, it just might be literally just easier to bring games to switch to than it is the series s Now maybe that'll changes because fs r3 is supposed to hit those systems at some point I don't know how that's gonna perform yet on those systems because we just don't know it's not here There's just all hypothetical at this point, but we actually know what dlss can do because it's already out there We're being used right now What I do find interesting as well Is thinking about just the prospect that like far cry 7 is a Next generation or we should just say current generation. It's current now. Yeah, I always say next gen It's not going to the last generation consoles And we're just starting to enter that period where that's what's happening now, right? We're finally starting to get hey, we're not making ps4 versions of games now We're not making xbox one versions of games anymore And what's interesting is nintendo Somehow perfectly positioned themselves To not need to worry Like they maybe had to do a switch on getting all the third party support Because their system's coming out at the just the time the games are now starting to only be on ps5 and xbox mpc And with that they're now dropping the system that oh by the way, you're just starting to make those games exclusive Now we just dropped the hardware you can put it on Which is really really interesting Thinking about the timing of this because it's almost like this cross gen stuff That's sony and third parties and xbox have been participating in I know just help nintendo For a while like if the switcher still able to get things a mortal combat one. I know I know I know what the reviews. I know what people are saying, but the bottom line is we still got it We're not gonna, you know The switch shoe is gonna come out and we're I honestly think if we're trying to far cry 7 Obviously monster hunters a little bit different story because monster hunters always been big on nintendo I I truly think that like we're gonna get all third party support now ubisoft's always Been pretty close with nintendo this whole time anyways, even when they weren't really in their big games But this is one of their big games and if they're releasing that we're gonna get the next assassin's creeds We're gonna get all their big stuff That are gonna bring all of it and what what's they're gonna stop other companies We already know we're getting call of duty contract signed done that deal just got approved by the cma It looks like it's gonna close by the october 18th deadline. So that's gonna be all done inside and sealed So we're gonna have call of duty Who knows what else, you know, I don't know if we're gonna get anything else from like from from those companies I don't know what microsoft's finding to do but ea, you know, it's probably already reevaluating Hey, man, if it's that easy to put games on here, why wouldn't we do it? We're just pissing away money We already have 2k support right we're gonna get nba 2k except we're now we're gonna get the better version of it Unlike this year when we get the the worst version of it Which is fine because they're finally moving on to again making features that are for more powerful platforms So they got to leave the old platforms behind um, so I think we're getting to the point where You know, we're hearing rumors like red dev redemption already came on switch Now red dev redemption 2 might be coming out on switch Does that mean we're gonna get gta 6 on switch 2 like we're hearing that that might even be announced coming up Not announced is coming this year, but unveiling the game It's over possibly. Yeah. Yeah in october lots of reports around that and rock star stuff always leaks like this So it's probably elder strolls gonna be exclusive to xbox and pc according to their slide its own Yeah, it's ps5 that in that conversation, which why I think it's one of those games like oh Why would they bring it to playstation? Sure, but I guess i'm asking because what can it be on switch 2 What will be funny is if microsoft starts deciding to keep things to xbox Into pc and nintendo and then just leave sony out of the mix Not doing great in sales, but you know who's is let's reap the benefits from that screw So I think it's part of phil's long game I think honestly, I think Sony and microsoft could actually have a much better relationship moving forward with jim ryan stuff. Well, yeah We'll talk about that in a moment. That's true. I would need to go to therapy Therapy But no, I so it's interesting Just looking at what the switch 2 is going to be able to do in the games that's going to be able to get obviously You know as a nintendo fan You're always super stoked to what the hell nintendo is going to do because this is insane They've never had this level of power and capabilities like what's that next xenoblade going to gain going to be man Like what what's retro studio is going to do with this, you know Everyone talks about the 3d mario what the hell is this 3d mario game going to look like with this kind of The next zelda what the hell is the zelda team going to do with it? Yeah, like look what they did with tears of the kingdom on switch This is insane What the hell are they going to do now that they're going to feel like they have unlimited power Imagine if they go back to that, you know realistic style twilight princess But no even better the tech demo that they showed off that was super realistic Had a little bit last week too. Yeah, I imagine I already know what they're going to call it though What's that this is going to shock you that i'm going to predict this It's going to be called the legend of zelda keeping it clean I knew you were going there. Well, it's going to be clean with all that deal Just the way you lined it up is With the pause keeping it clean make i gotta say though like just thinking about that zelda tech demo And like the tech we're hearing about in switch 2 like I can see Like if you go back and look at the zelda tech demo like there are some pretty cool effects Like you see like the light reflecting off the floor right and it's like so it's it's trying to emulate At least for the time because it came out what back in 2011 Just trying to emulate some pretty advanced like graphical effects and like I could kind of envision like How the switch 2 could take something like that and just nintendo did ray tracing first Ray tracing would look so good in the game that's built around that style and then like uh Oh, it could it would look And it's a suit and they ever do that style then again Well, I think let me say again would it destroy the sales of cheers of the kingdom if they went with that style I would You know that open world's not going anywhere. That's the one thing they said for sure. We're not I don't think I think if they went with an art style, they would be like that because we know they're not going to do the exact same thing That's not gonna Unless it's an actual sequel again, they're not But but I guess the the main point is are they going to go on an art style that's Maybe somewhat I obviously that tech the most not realistic Win raker, baby Full win. Let's go. Here's my thoughts on it. The world's I would be perfectly fine with that. I mean, I feel I was I just don't know that it's a Well, no matter what they go with they go with that they go with realistic whatever People better not freaking bash it give the game a chance like that would make me so It got that treatment of like people just get mad at I honestly think when they reveal it in like 2027 2028 our jaws are just gonna be on the floor drooling Like what are they doing? We already thought we saw the best the system can do what what's happening I I think that it's not gonna be too in length though. I don't think they're gonna make a home concert No, I don't I don't think they're gonna go back to that. Yeah, I think I think they they know that the kind of like young adult or Somewhat adult link is kind of like the go-to kind of link for the masses So That's just what I think they're gonna do Not to mention when you go with that link it makes more sense to kind of incorporate romance and clearly Zilla fan base appreciates that so I just I don't think it's a blatant romance, but it is definitely like So this is I'm not like I'm not joking here like I I've always believed this I I think that link is asexual I think he just doesn't care Because no he doesn't talk to be fair. So we really don't have a good point of reference Not just that like he just he has a lot of characters that express interest in him and he just Does not have any interest back like only one character. He's staring at the ass though. I'm just saying Hey, you know what that's not keeping it clean All right Um I could see them revisiting a time Where you start out as child link and go to adult link within the game though I don't think that that's totally off the table Hey, I create a time remake. Yeah. Well, besides for our credit time remake like incorporate that in some kind of I'm okay. I mean I imagine If they're both in the game in that way, that's fine But I just I just kind of think they need to have like the older link in the main I think I think they stick with that from here on for the most part, too You ever think they would do like a gritty like Lincoln is like thirties Do it They won't but it would actually be cool if they went full on like age kratos got a war with link, you know Like links already been the hero. He's already saved the day He thinks he's all done. He's retired. He's enjoying himself and all of a sudden this grizzly 45 How about that? Ready you play you play as an older link, right? And you like do all this stuff you save the world And then you're like going to this last castle And you die and as you're dying you give a sword to the link from the length of the past All the links are descendants of each other, so right so This old man grizzly link actually has a younger son who's like in it 15 16 ready to do the adventure But here's the problem you start off playing as that character and he dies In the first half hour of the game and that's what brings the old link out of retirement like no no no you took my son There's the motivator that's Nintendo would never do that but that would be sick. Yeah, that would be sick Whatever they do, I want it to be its own thing. I don't want it to be like I don't want to be like any other game. I want it to be like original Zelda team fully Yeah, and they'll take as long as they need and they'll come up with the most original creative idea ever and well I have so much faith in that team. They have yet to let me down and Yeah, I have more faith in that team and any other any other team in all of gaming Eric quiet down over there. Yeah, I'm kidding. Eric. What do you what are you thinking about this whole like third party game stuff? Like started to come out as hey, this is coming. Hey, this is coming. Oh, this is coming More games for me not to play No, no the more games is better. Heck yeah, bring it all bring all I am I'm all here for yeah, you're gonna play everyone, right? Damn straight You'll least purchase them if not play them Well, we have a million subs by then and he'll be working for me. So that'll be his job to play the games I'm good with that. Yeah, I'm sure you are Um So what I wanted one of the bring up is just a couple of things Apparently it's a hiring posts are sort of heavily suggesting that switch shoe is going to have hdr I think this was probably mostly expected at this point. It's kind of a modern Feature that everything really supports, but there's a lot of different hdr standards Uh, for some people hdr looks like crap. I'm sure it'll be optional. I'm sure you'll be able to turn it off If it doesn't look good on your tv But that is something that's just sort of needs to sort of bring up not really shocking Nothing really talking I made the argument in my video about the subject, right? Yes, if the system supports hdr It's it's obviously doesn't if one does not confirm the other But I think it increases the chance that maybe the screen that the switch to itself has also might support hdr But you don't know so The handheld screen you're talking. Yeah, right. That would be interesting It'll support it on the OLED version later So you see I mean lcds can do hdr though with a cheap asset I mean, it could be an hdr enabled but not impressive. I mean, that's that's very much a possibility because you can buy a pretty cheap panel Here's my argument why hdr requires high nits. They're not going to do that because it drains battery It's just not gonna be there. Well, so hold on. Um, maybe they give a lot of the choice You're wrong Well, there could be a battery warning on toggling it on. Yeah, like wouldn't it come down to the developer? Yeah, you can like on any other console like ps5 xbox you can turn hdr on and off And on this on a switch device if you turn it off that would consider battery If you have it, I I guess my perspective is If you're going to have these features that are going to enhance the games And then turn them all off When you want a portable mode I mean, yes, you can do that. Obviously in portable mode you hit at least on switch like if you switch as a standard Yeah, there there are certain things that are different in portable mode But in general they try to have the kind of scale down relatively well So obviously, you know, maybe nintendo could decide. Hey hdr just not an option in portable mode No, just put it they could give developers the option or super People already turn down the brightness to say a battery sometime. It's nice to have the option Yes, in every other console hdr is under the brightness So like every time you go to the brightness that can also be something to toggle so it's right there so you know what it is You think they'll let dlss be usable and portable Absolutely, I don't I think it would mess up game games like the whole development process If if you can't use it in portable because then you're going to be developing a dock Like like almost two separate ways that the game runs if it can't just be pulled off the dock and played the same with the lss I mean, I don't I'm not claiming to be a developer. I don't know exactly how that would work But I just can't imagine it being disabled in handheld mode. In fact, I also want to develop it But that makes sense to me. I also think that the hdr I think nintendo is gonna put that on there more as an extra sticker to slap on the box and kind of like Oh, we have hdr now. We just like a 4k whenever docked, but it's not It might not be impressive in handheld mode at all, but it's just there just just because it's there like just yeah Like sony with the 8k on the box. There you go. Exactly marketing at its finest makes sense. Okay, technically we can have 8k image Okay, cool. That's that's nice. Good for you. I'm glad I come up with an 8k screen shot Games can't hit 4k 60, but we're talking about 8k Anyways, my point is I think there's a chance that hdr is at least possible in handheld mode in a vaccine The case that implies that that lcd that's also rumored may not be as bad as the lcd Give me a mini lead. That'd be sweet I mean the greatest thing to do would be to do a dock setting and a handheld settings Well, it's probably gonna be and then probably be doing You don't have to go into the settings and change them every freaking time. That should be a thing That's a great point that should be totally separate based off the profile If you're a doctor if you're portable have two separate setting profiles. Sure There's also this running theory out there because of some smash amiibo That potentially we can see a hardware reveal still this year What are you guys's thoughts? I don't want to go into the whole talk about I think it's I think it's Definitely possible. I do How likely is it that I'm a totally up in the air on And supposedly with a lean towards not this year, but I would like it this year I'm on that same train of thought I would love for it to happen this year But I don't know that it's really that I mean it's it is possible if nintendo The one way I could see them doing it in november Is they're already telling us that it's the mario kart 8 bundle and then they have the switch lights with the animal crossing designs And then they're like surprised black friday sale and through the holiday season We're going to do a price drop And you know you get the switch base model for 250 because you already know that this new console is going to come out But I think that that seems like a stretch compared to them just Riding through this holiday season and then doing an early year January to march range Here's your switch to announcement and it's middle of the year or late I would love for that march box to be the watch window, but I think it's more the reveal So after the holidays because they always sell right in the holidays And now that they're going to have like that that bundle which they I mean to be fair they always have But then they have the animal crossing switch lights Like there's no mario wonder is going to be on the shelves following up the success of the mario bros movie You know right one question So let's say obviously it's not revealed this year by the way none of us even know but let's say it's not revealed this year That's the expectation. We're not going to see it this year Why are the bundles in the beginning of october instead of november? There've always been november until now all right because they are trying to clear stock They just want to do it without a price cut. Yeah, um, I think it's so Yeah, pretty much right. I think the answer is related to but it's not because we're going to see switch to it Because this may be the last holiday where switch is the main Nintendo console so they're doing what they can to sell out as much as they can And also maybe that's why we're getting the amiibo restocked as well Just because they're just trying to push out everything they have left for that last major holiday of switch Before switch 2 arrives I threw out an idea during my podcast on monday that I It's kind of interesting because I think everyone's pointing to all but the amiibo restocks always coincide with a major announcement or event And people are like well the only possible Huh 16 days either way or wouldn't they come out right? So what's interesting about that is that everyone's making the assumption not everyone right? That's an exaggeration But a lot of people are making the assumption that that has to mean switch to because the directs are done That the nintendo lives have happened right like what else the amount of amiibo For the games the amiibo represent It's substantial. Yeah, there's nothing happening You know that we're aware of that would involve that many major ip's unless That's that's what I had an idea. I had an idea that makes more sense They give us a trailer That showcases or teases the nintendo museum Oh, here we go The main thing is not even broke round yet Huh, there hasn't even broke ground yet. Let's start teasing it. They showed us a render Hasn't even broke ground I just don't see them teasing that right now like that's gonna be done for like two years I was surprised that was in the direct at all because it's not like an international attraction to the point where Everybody's flocking to japan to go see that thing. You know, maybe i'm just that high on museum Don't get me wrong. I'd love to go but yeah, yeah, it was it was strange It was even in the direct because it's not an international attraction. It's just like uh Hey, if you happen to come to Kyoto sometime, you should probably stop by here if you're a nintendo fan. Okay So what do you think's gonna happen, Nate? What do you think's gonna happen? Yeah, well, let's tell me what do you think's gonna happen? I mean, I don't think a console is getting revealed this year. I think it's a little unrealistic to expect it Sure, but what is gonna happen? Um, I think I think they're just gonna announce Uh at the beginning of november They're gonna announce a nintendo classics line and they're gonna drop the price on like mario odyssey to 20 bucks Press of the wilds 20 bucks. That's right dread. They might even do a price drop to 40 Um, they're gonna do a nintendo select line of games. They do this late in the generation all the damn time It could literally just be a nintendo select line of video games That's pretty good No one's talking about it, but they've done it for like three straight generations. Why the hell Well, I mean and they have games like mario odyssey that aren't even really selling anymore drop at the 20 bucks You'll sell a bunch of holiday This might this this might there might be scientists idea. I might do some research on it. You know, I think By the way, I think it's three generations. I think it's only we we you Um, yes, did it? Yeah Gamecube had a had a Player's choice. Yeah, I have some of those yellow bars at the top of the gamecube cases that I hate. Yep The gameboy advance have something That I don't know I don't say they're ready either. I'm not sure. So at least console wise gamecube did it. We did it. We you did it And to like to add to your point, Nate Like I think maybe that's the reason a lot of people aren't talking about it is because a lot of people Like obviously us that create nintendo content or you know, the chat that's very interested in nintendo content We already have most of those games that we want So it's not very exciting or like the hardcore community And you won't put mark like people. Oh, finally. Mario Kart 8's gonna be cheaper. No, it's not. I'm just letting you It's a top 10 seller, right? Mario Odyssey Like a big nintendo fan you've you played it Now there might be some exceptions for some people, but for the most part It's not as exciting as thinking of you know, one of the other things that you mentioned happening I think I have a counter argument. I think it would be a good move I have a counter argument Maybe the reason why we tend to see these players choice Discounted in nintendo games towards the end of every generation is because they are running out of steam They're trying to think of ways to maintain momentum But when they have such great great momentum at this point, there may be no need So i'm not saying you're wrong I'll say this we usually have the line of games out by now that that's like the counter argument is they've never waited this Late into a generation to do it. They've already well started it two years ago Um, so there there is an argument to be made a they don't need to do it for starters. It's still selling really well Uh, yeah, they have some old games like mario odyssey. They're not really selling anymore But maybe they just don't care because they have mario wonder coming out I know I mean come on mario is not being forgotten. Literally. We're gonna be bashed over the head with mario for the next six months Uh, so let's also not forget that they did bring back the buy two games Yeah, and they also have that that could be their their, you know, their replacement for it Yeah, right so I So my thing is like I that I just threw that out there because it's happened so many generations and rummy Someone mentioned him in the chat like it's been happening since super nintendo. So it's like, okay cool like that actually makes sense But if that's not what it is Nintendo museum, baby. We're getting that trailer If that's not what it is then I actually start to entertain the nintendo switch to idea And the reasoning it would be because it's coming out march And if it's coming out in march, they want you to know now If it's coming out in march, I do think it has to happen this year The price drop they can think it's coming out in march. They are because they don't have a game in them So they're not actually still technically I could I could see it being announced in january and coming out in march That's more time than sony announced the ps5 and it came out technically they first mentioned ps5 They did that during a holiday they first mentioned ps5 in april of 20 But they 19. Okay. I guess that's true. I guess I'm thinking when they announced it was actually like pre-orders Which nintendo would do it They're gonna announce when you can get it. Yeah, they won't be available to failure right away I have wondered if we'll see this generation transition have the shortest ramp up like almost apple style that you know nintendo's like Here's our reveal and it's up for pre-orders next week and it's gonna be it's gonna ship to you two months later I do think that nintendo march would be the shortest. They've never done you right it's six months for the switch, right? The good thing about You know hypothetically it is a short lead time, but hypothetically doing like january to march Is that that is there like worse that is all the video games industry That's the worst selling months So that's the best time to have people like maybe stop buying games because they're waiting for the new system Can I just from a financial perspective that would be the best time My idea is That uh, I do entertain the idea of the november reveal with a price drop that keeps the sales there And it starts driving hype because I don't think people are going to stop buying switch games If it's announced with backwards compatibility because you feel confident to continue buy switch games so If they if there's backwards compatibility announced with him by the way when I say announce it like we're I'm talking like an october 2016 teaser Like they'll do a full event in january Sure blowout, but but like they'll do the teaser where they show you what it is. They tease it is Don't even be honest. I was kind of thinking they would announce it in september, you know, like as of a month ago I thought it was probably There's a lot of people that thought they might they might do that. Yeah, can I share something with you guys? It's it's something that I along you keep it clean Oh, you shared your streaming before just keep it clean. It's clean. It's not even google this time. It's it's it's my Wait private hold on We're going to private images. I'm not sure if I'm okay with this I'm actually debating. I shouldn't share and save it for a video Oh, jeez. I'm gonna promote my only that many people watch this podcast. Oh, how popular It's fine I'm gonna hit videos dude two three times that I know this is a preview. Let's call it that. Are you ready? He's teasing You're ready. Given you a reason to subscribe. I've been ready. I'm waiting to click. Okay Okay, I gotta make sure it was clean before I get all right All right, so you guys see this clearly. Yeah. Yeah All right. So like for the video today, I just decided that it would be easier to kind of just like show Something that may be kind of illustrate how next year could go Right because my the point for the video today. I was just talking about donkey kong, right? If if there would be a new donkey kong announced for next year like where does it fit? so These three games already confirmed that there's 12 boxes here, right? I'm trying to kind of think Okay, Nintendo has at least one major published title per month, right? You got January, February, March, April, then, you know, all throughout the year, right? So January got another code recollection mario versus donkey kong in february princess peach showtime in march Because of princess peach showtime, Nate, I know you disagree with me on this But I feel like there's kind of no way we get switched to in march But you still have these other nine remaining months now. Luigi's mentioned the rest is unconfirmed very speculation Luigi's mentioned to hd. We know it's summertime. So I have it slotted here in here for june But you know, maybe it somehow is she comes out late may or it can still come out july or august Thousand year door is just 2024. I think that strongly implies it's the second half of 2024 title But I personally doubt it's like a holiday title So I have it in here for like, you know around august like maybe september like that's kind of a thing And then here I created like a mario image, right? So this is me implying 3d mar from maybe september Which I think is one switch two comes out prime four for october because that'd be a fitting time And then there's going to be a pokemon game in november because that always happens and then december is just kind of vacant So that's just kind of like, you know, me sort of spitballing Somewhat if we can maybe sort of guesstimate might be nintendo's lineup next year But there's there's still vacancies, you know, we there's still games to be announced and Right, um, but it just kind of at least for me it helps me to sort of Maybe think about what would make the most sense for nintendo to do like does Maybe does it maybe make more sense for Nintendo to release the system in the middle of the year is that conceivable? And if that's the case like what is the launch title for this for the system, right? Like do we still assume 3d mar was a launch title? And if that's the case, do we want it to be in between luigi's mansion and thousand-year door, right? Like say it comes out july See, I don't really care about any of the games coming on switch. I don't think they're determining anything. So Obviously when I think it can come on march with princess peach. I don't really think anything. Yeah, you don't care It's not that I don't care. It's that you can only think nintendo doesn't care You can only sell so many systems at launch and there's still 130 plus million people that need to buy games Yeah, well, I shared another code right idea a little bit So I don't think another code recollection will be their only game and in that particular month too I think that's like more of a fan service game And I think there's a lot we don't know about 2023 and what nintendo is going to reveal game wise. So I don't know. It's an interesting argument, but I do wonder I do wonder the same I don't think that um I think that whenever switch two gets announced whatever the direct is after that will like Color in so much of the year because there's no doubt that they've been holding back some projects to help try to launch that thing I do think that 3d mario launches it Is like if it wasn't going to be zelda, it's going to be mario Which maybe means that there's a really short turnaround time for an announcement on a 3d mario game like that to when it Is ultimately out What do you think? I don't know. I was just I was looking at you know, because andre spread up the uh museum And that's supposed to be opening in march of 2024. What better way to go? Hey, come join us at the museum for switch to launch Wait, that's keep that's keeping it clean. That's keeping it clean boys. Yeah. Yeah, it is supposed to open in march Like that could be a trailer in november Yeah, why would they have a trailer for a museum? I don't I just because it's cool It's gonna be combo There's not gonna be anything in the museum until like january They can have plants they can have stuff they can be building things what they want to show us the tyrannosaurus rex from mario odyssey in the opening of the museum because we're trying to mimic, you know We wouldn't even see the real thing I'm gonna go go out on a limb and say that the nintendo This nintendo museum is not in any way shape or form related to the switch to launch in any way shape or form Well, not the switch to launch. I'm just talking about the secret november thing Okay, yeah, I do wonder because there's a number of buildings attached to the museum It is possible that maybe they want to build like And because it's a museum, there's other uses for this They could build a stage and have their own stage there and that could actually be where they would do a switch to presentation Because everyone else seems to have the Sony's got their own stuff. Microsoft has apple doesn't museum So, yeah, they could have a stage in the museum because there could be other attractions They do They don't need the museum to promote the switch to I'm just saying they would Let me just finish finish the sentence. Let's keep it clean. All right Well, it would be it would be great promotion for the museum To show the switch to at it There's a lot more a lot of people that don't even know what it is don't care But might if it was the place where the switch to was shown off featured It would get people more interested in that. So there is a way in which it would financially benefit them So when you talk about there being a stage in the museum where there could be performances My first so you understand how my brain works. My first thought was oh They should do what they did with pauline in mario odyssey and emulate the concert from the game at the museum How cool would that be? Yeah, I'll right now. I'm just like a nintendo bad boy mode. Like I'm just like All right They did a bunch. They did like the um The music presentation for like animal crossing Like they've done like stuff like that. So it would be great to have their own venue All right, andress recently you talked about sponsorships before we got started You need to reach out to everyone and be like i'm looking for a sponsor for the trip to the museum That's what I want. I want my tickets my hotel paid for let's go Like continuing on this subject though Like think about how many like different like exhibits and tenos put together for their different events Like the animal crossing one is all the one they've done others like mario odyssey like They have a lot of really cool like statues and set pieces Like they could they could make an amazing museum Like they could legitimately like put together one of the best museums ever made No doubt about it. I mean that's a little It's really I think so for foray. They could make one of the best museums ever made for a nintendo fan If you're you're not into any other stuff, you're not gonna care In terms of gaming They gotta put it somewhere In terms of gaming they could probably make the best museum with their history. I would argue it'd be so cool Imagine they partner with sega get some of that stuff in there too. There you go Yeah, they would definitely I I could see them doing that. They would have to have a sega portion where the commercials are playing Yep They play the nintendo commercials, but they're censored. Yes Anyways, um, anyway, I guess getting back to the point, um I I think that uh the amiibo restocks are They're very loosely related to switch to but it's not because there's they're going we're going to have a teaser that soon there's also And this is obviously the pessimistic that comes up because here's the thing every time there's been this many restock It has meant something in the past. So I can't dismiss the correlations that have existed But also correlations not causation. It could just be it's holidays and they think they'll sell some So they're just releasing a bunch before holidays And they're gonna black friday sale them And they're gonna end up no to be fair last big switch all the way The listeners listening to from greece, which doesn't have a black friday. So That's the why some people have dismissed the black friday theory because We have evidence of the restocks because of greece But it's just to me. It's just one of these situations where I Don't know that in this case There the correlation is a causation for anything Just because this is potentially or should be the last holiday featuring switch And it could just be as simple as hey, we just think we're going to sell a bunch of these to solid day These are the most popular ones we've ever had these ones always sell out. So we're just dropping a bunch for the holidays Um, it could just be that simple But again, it's always correlated to other things in the past And we know there's a system coming and we know as we're seeing every week that people won't shut up about it It's like the worst kept secret in gaming So and we just got done with tokyo game show Give it like two weeks and we're gonna start getting stuff from tokyo game show about Here we'll leave and take that long For yeah, well, it was whatever it was more like a week It was a week after games com whenever it started or something There'll be a report from someone this time next week. We're gonna be freaking out Okay, we might be we might be Could just be the same demos from games com and then we're just Or maybe we hear about another one But here's the thing if it is to be believed that it's somehow going to launch in march We should start seeing actual manufacturing leaks soon Yeah, because nintendo's I mean shintaro for akawa said that the way that they're going to try to fight off the scalper situation To investors is just to have more playing out as much stock as Humanly possible to try to meet the demand of consumers. It's probably still not going to meet the demand But the way he that's kind of how he answered that question on what are you going to do to try to fight a scalping situation with your next gen console? He also said they are exploring Other methods like looking at things like what playstation is done with ps direct and having weight lines They're looking into all that stuff. I'm sure but the problem is they can't control like the walmarts and targets and You know best buys of the world and that's you do not allow in person pre orders You have made the greatest mistake Stop making us fight online when some of us can just go to a retail store the night before Camp out and just get the pre order in it's so much easier. Yep That was one of the biggest thing I know it was because of covid so it was a very unique situation about not doing in-store pre orders but damn man We're just require online pre orders to have an active nintendo account or There's about 200 million of those and they're absolutely free to make because I don't think it's gonna do anything That's gonna stop make it so it had to have been active with a purchase in the last You know few months or whatever, but the problem is is that nintendo at the end of the day They don't even though they want it to end up in the hands of gamers They also just want to sell, you know of the console like they don't want to put up any barriers I disagree uh Because what happened to the sony microsoft is they don't buy games Yeah, they were they're all sitting on the scalper shelves and no one was buying games and it tanks their software So yeah, so long. That's that's a good point. I'm just thinking about it from the perspective of PS5 like yeah, congrats man Nintendo wouldn't want to let's say you're a brand new nintendo gamer You didn't have a reason to sign up for a nintendo account They wouldn't want to like age or like wall off anybody who's going to be a brand new gamer to their system But at the same time you are right They definitely don't want to help us at the same time someone's going to be a brand new gamer Probably going to buy that much either So I think they would be incentivized to and also it would be a good move to show that they're loyal to the people That have supported the switch, especially if they just bought it during the holiday or whatever To be like, hey, you know what like that's that's going to be the priority for our online retort You could still you know through other retailers by oh that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense But you know for the nintendo website We're gonna have a specific amount of stock for us that we're just you know what I mean I could that's a nintendo move too. It's like not too far fetched to think No, I agree if it's exclusive to their online store I actually think that makes a ton more sense because then it is them signaling to like we care about our fan base What we're gonna do for the loyal long-term gamers We're gonna x you know put out this x amount of stock just for you guys You know, I that would actually be a really cool move. I feel like for the for the core nintendo fan base I do too and for a lot of hardcore gamers that would make nintendo look really good compared to Sony and microsoft sure So speaking of sony jim ryan Announced today officially by sony. It technically was leaked out by jayson shryer. He broke the news And then sony's like oh crap cats out of the bag. We better release our little pr Press races on this uh jim ryan the leader of sony interactive entertainment He's essentially the leader of playstation. It's the way you can basically look at him. He runs all things playstation He's been working at sony. I think they suffer 30 years So he's been there a hell of a long time. I don't know that until that news post. That's kind of crazy Yeah, I remember I didn't read everything so much or how long he ran He's worked at playstation longer than the playstation has existed That's a good point sony's longer than playstation But they said Yeah, he wasn't I don't know how that works by our time He wasn't running playstation. Then there was other I hope the I forget there was a different president. Even the last like 10 years. He wasn't running it the whole time I don't know when he became ceo, but Anyway, um So he's retiring to march of 2024. We don't know the exact day and it's fine. It doesn't really matter for us um Heroki to toki is assuming the role of chairman Of sony interactive entertainment. He's already you know a big member of the board and a bunch of stuff He doesn't want your roles of sony already So he's sort of like I guess running the show until they find a new person Well, the thing is it's a working towards finding and jim ryan is going to work at nintendo And he has to announce the switch to in march So anyways, it's a conflict of interest jim ryan is quoted Um in insane his little goodbyes and he actually said like why he's retiring It's quite interesting. He's not really retiring because he doesn't want to do the job is retiring because he's sick of living in europe But having to work in north america interesting uh Interesting because honestly the north america thing is actually quite recent that's the sony moved everything to north america It was in japan for many many many years So that's a first world problem. Yeah, it is Oh man, I live in europe I have to work in north america ryan jim ryan Ryan jim ryan i'm out pace um So anyways, uh, this is sort of a big deal Jim ryan's been the face of playstation for a long time to cry and jim ryan memes and all that um You know pretty much everything good and bad everyone points the fingers of jim ryan So Uh, which happens I mean everything good and bad you pointed out a lot of who's running nintendo before so like this first names You can't trust them Jim ryan stepping down I don't think there's anyone obvious to take over for ceo at this point That's why they didn't make any announcement. They're trying to find the right person So to me that also feels like maybe it caught sony off guard that he was going to step down at what I presume is the end of his current contract Because they were probably in contract renewal talks and that's when he told them. Hey, I'm not going to renew um, and then on top of that uh What what's jim ryan's legacy because honestly playstation has stayed consistently successful underneath him but Like that consistency overall Yeah, I mean It's hard to pick one thing but that's just because there's been so many good things that happened So that's not a bad legacy as much hate as he's gotten over the years. I mean he's handled the hate pretty good I'd say overall I agree Yeah, I mean it comes across cocky sometimes, but you know what? What's he supposed to be playstation has been on top of the world for a long time? He's a business guy I think like everything like that he's put out there is kind of expected from a You know anybody at a ceo level or when you're running something like that's You rarely find somebody who doesn't have some of those things like where they over promise on certain stuff Or just like the things that people call them out for which to be fair I mean like lyin cry and jim ryan like the the lies were there. We believe in generations And it's only powerful with the it's only possible with the power of the playstation 5 and then the games come out of Nintendo will make the same kind of statement. Yeah, that's what I'm saying I don't think anybody like hey like hey the switch is coming out But the 3ds is going to be supported for the entire time the switch is like well the entire time They just said it's not a 3ds replacement. They heavily implied it like that. It's going to be continued being supported by them And not even not even a few months The last nintendo game for the 3ds was published. No Last first party nintendo game. Yeah, no ever oasis was published by nintendo that came out in 2018 Nintendo first party game. Yeah, we had this talk before like nintendo was publishing games all the way in the 2019 Yeah, the 3ds was supported for two years after switch came out. Yeah, right But what first party nintendo came out after after switch they were publishing when I say supported I mean they were publishing first party titles until 2019 Okay, I could pull it like for you though. All right. I'll look it up myself. You don't have to pull it up All right, I know there was a lot of remasters to be clear, which is exactly what they're doing with switch right now The last version first party title for the 3ds was uh in 2018 Warrior wear gold warrior wear gold. Okay, but month without Uh, doesn't say, um, I'd have to look up warrior wear gold. Yeah. Yeah I just think nintendo stays silent about some of those things more and they just do it anyway Like no like they nintendo believes in generations because they maybe have one cross gen title And then it's just like maybe third party stuff continues to To come out Um mario and luigi bowser's inside story plus bowser's junior's journey Kirby's extra epic yarn and yokei watch three were published by nintendo offered 3ds in 2019 Which sorry, I was reading this which games andres Mario luigi bowser's inside story plus bowser junior's journey I know it's a mouthful at Kirby's extra epic yarn and yokei watch three We're in 28. Yeah, those are those are three published nintendo titles for 3ds in 2019 I mean And there were you can't watch live You can't watch them published by by nintendo outside of japan Um, right, right. It's not a first party nintendo game is what ohm's like Yeah, that's technically not first party, but they didn't publish it outside of japan and if they're public I mean when they're publishing it that becomes a blurred line situation Some rights to the game. Oh, yeah, and that's that's fair, but I was specifically referring to not just publish But first party develop sure, but there's still two in it other nintendo ip that were Games that came out in 2019 The point was that they kept supporting the system About the studios that made them not being nintendo's main. I mean one of them went out of business No, here's the thing. I think everyone's right in that jaco say in their main studios were obviously making games on switch Clearly, uh, you don't get the kind of output on switch without that happening. That's all I'll say you're right But 3ds technically was also being supported by nintendo the whole time as well for about two years. So Sure, and that's and they might be doing that I'll concede I'll concede to that I guess it's probably gonna happen. Um So I I think I just think it's interesting thinking about jim ryan's career um Because obviously consistency is the one thing I'll always think of like playstation out of all of the platforms Super consistent maintaining audience Maintaining, um, I would say mostly consumer happiness, you know, most sony fans are pretty happy with their sony systems by the end of a generation um, you know Even being consistent in Some ways in which they've handled uh recent services and games and playstation Plus and you know adding adding free games every single month. Sometimes people aren't happy with it, but sometimes they are also Hey Under jim ryan sony made the decision to bring their games to pc So pc fans can also be thanking Jim ryan for making that decision because he ultimately had to come down to him making the call and say hey We don't think there's a lot of crossover in audiences. We don't think it's gonna hurt our sales Let's bring our games to pc a year later It's worked out for him so far I think that there's been a lot of things That have been more negative with him Recently like in the past year to like this jet console generation problem And that I feel like has led to him You know some of them retires you don't really know what was was talked about behind the scenes if like maybe he was requested To retire but they what sony wants to look strong They want it to make it seem like his choice. You don't know if there was any of that going on the background obviously like People were upset about the ps plus price increase Then last year when he tried to rebrand rebrand all of ps plus and um, forget what he was even called before Places should now yeah into one thing And that did nothing like let's be like, you know what I mean negligible and then For a whole year didn't add any ps2 or psp games And it's like on its own Whether they did or didn't that would Really would be so negligible how much money they would make which is why he didn't care because he is Big push for pr2 and then now no one's even talking about it anymore Right and then the choice of the playstation portal was weird And well, he is not responsible for all those things. They all happened under his leadership And so it looks it does look good for sony as a whole to have a new ceo And that's if you go on twitter or whatever that's a lot of the conversation Like people are more excited about it than sad about it Plus people are mad like they think that he's responsible for all the japanese studio shutdowns Um and just the way he came off during the entire fbc case with with microsoft Oh, he looked horrible in that case That's probably a bigger part of it than anything i've said so far He looks really bad It was his job to block that merger He knew his job was on the line if it didn't get blocked and now here he is resigning Let's let's be real. He kept it nasty He kept it filthy At least he was using to get it blocked And then like microsoft the whole time like what are you talking about? Here's the actual facts of what you've done to us Do we want to get into what you've done to us? Because let's air your dirty laundry and then those contracts come out Where they're just literally bad talking xbox for like two straight fucking decades of when when he when he says He literally is quoted in an email or something somewhere that is like i don't care about call of duty I just want your merger block, you know, like all all the tactics Yeah, all the tactics you're like, oh, it's about keeping call dude. It's about i don't go fuck about call of duty Yeah, it's you just want to fuck you over. That's all of it. There's other motives. Yeah It's like you don't know that but like you're not supposed to say it and I mentioned this earlier on the podcast we were talking about how maybe Microsoft can make exclusive that are on micro on xbox pc and switch and i mentioned like It also bodes well for sony that maybe i don't think they're gonna fix their relationship completely with microsoft But it's gonna it can't get any worse There's a possibility of improving that relationship to some degree in the future And does sony now have a new motive to fix their relationship with microsoft considering that activision blizzard is going to them and all That feels past is brian's fail after all the pettiness and all the bad books he fails Now phil what do we have to do to put game pass on our system? Then phil will be like, all right, let's talk. Otherwise, I don't think they're gonna talk I honestly don't think those companies are ever gonna talk again Unless sony reaches an olive branch out and says hey, we're considering allowing game pass on our platform That's it. That's that's what microsoft cares about they care about the subscriptions That's true. That's all they want To nintendo could you see microsoft like Their next console that was leaked being their last one if sony agrees so like keep game pass on there like Um, I don't think sony's gonna agree to that anytime soon Maybe the reason why they they're just trying to delay things as much as possible because if they can delay things a couple extra years Maybe the xbox division will be just cut It's not that now that I know but you know, I'm just saying like They're what they're gonna be rolling in the money man. They're gonna be making them so much money I think I think with the activision blizzard thing looking like it's gonna for sure close That puts them in a much better position than some of those emails we were reading But to be fair, there was some legitimate concern that if they didn't grow game pass by a significant amount of time But I think they said end of 2027 that they would have to consider exiting the concept of the gaming space 2026 I think or just in time. Yeah Phil Spencer, yeah, I noted too after all that that he's like, hey You know, it sucks this stuff got out there. We made a mistake But also like these are old emails before we even acquired zennamax let alone before we acquired You know, obviously Activision blizzard. So it's like their plans have clearly changed like they're not trying to get nintendo. No doubt about it You know, it's all like hey like we were talking about them We were pipe dreaming it would be a career moment to get nintendo like yeah, of course it would but also Realistically realized couldn't do it nailed down zennamax nailed down activision blizzard And now there's it's different like activision blizzard I do think was a turning point like if they didn't get that deal because he was so upset When the cma was trying to block it back in that week after redfall came out and then that ended up being a disaster too So a really bad week and he went on that kind of fun Give him I give him a lot of credit for still deciding to go on that podcast No joke that week and then on that pocket He was just like I've never seen a ceo be that honest just being like dude. It's a bad week You guys can't trust a damn thing I say Like literally next time I tell you a game is good. Just tell me I'm a liar I'm like, well, what is going on right now? Where's the reggie spin? Where's where's the hey, we'll patch this everything's gonna be good and no you're gonna straight up saying this is a bad game And I screwed up and then going on to be like in this merger, man Like if this doesn't go through I don't really know we don't really have a backup plan right now And that's like what what are we are you about to lose your job? Are they about to act xbox if this deal doesn't go that's what it felt like and then Lo and behold the deal is going through and now it's probably all coming up roses And because they know how much money that the at division blizzard king's projected to make over the next 10 years They know they're going to get that 70 billion dollars back So and because they finally got it the big thing for them is they finally got the in to mobile Like that's the thing. Microsoft is really out of all the modern tech. They're they're massive in on servers They're massive in obviously on all the windows devices and the surfaces and the tablets They kind of couldn't really pull it off making their own phones But they wanted to get big apps on You know phones that make a lot of money and the only one they really had that's done anything is office And they're like well, we need something else. We need something that actually drives consistent revenue We need games and they couldn't get any game like they try to age vampires mobile didn't really take off They tried a bunch of mobile games And now they got king So they're in They're in like towards the top of the pile of the highest grossing games Highest grossing apps, you know that there is so That's really what the deal that's why like I don't think Microsoft ever cared about oh call of duty exclusivity Why do we even care about that the real money's king? Yeah, call of duty makes a lot of money. We're not gonna like that's not how we're making 70 billion dollars back You know, and if we are gonna make 70 billion back, why don't we just give everyone call of duty? Oh ubisoft you want to stream Microsoft blizzard game activation blizzard game go for it, man Like we'll we'll give this in the uk you want to you want to be a streaming service provider We don't give a shit our money's our money's keeping candy crush And what yeah, I don't even know what else the king has going on but candy crush is like massive so I don't know it's interesting So we want to know where andress meant he he's still here Uh, typically when he dips out like that, he's just got some in real stuff He's dealing with he'll let me know when it's time to get back in he's not right now He's not keeping it clean so he'll be back That could be if he comes back and we see a tip of a lotion model on the side Wait, I don't understand. It's okay. You don't have to be You didn't explain it No, we keep it in like in five The fact that the two inch destroyer doesn't know is almost disappointing That's because I can't I don't need anyone. It's clear that he's on only fans too. So yeah Do we do we have any final thoughts on that Jim Ryan stuff? We all forgot the real reason why he's actually stepping down He's scared because Nintendo's opening the museum in March. So that's like Going to March Duh, there it is. There's I'm just coming back at the perfect time Eric just said the reason Jim Ryan stepping down in March is because the museum opens in March. He's scared. He's scared He's scared of the museum. That's what it is. Yeah, he likes chat. We can't let no one would come to a Sony museum Yeah, nobody nobody's coming to this Yeah There it is Uh, you guys got anyone else got some final thoughts on the Jim Ryan stuff I Mean look he's been an industry icon. Yeah, I'll tell you I'll tell you this I I kind of am a little bit on that hype train of who is it going to be next and Do we see big changes while? Yes from a business perspective Jim Ryan? Who Reggie fees about oh god, dude, that would be a legendary moment The internet I don't I don't care But I hope they're like I hope they're like kind of sexy, you know That's why I read you fees of me Yeah, I think Nintendo would be an upgrade in job because he'd be running the entire playstation division Nintendo would probably hire Reggie back as a face just to stop him from going to Sony I think that that would be the biggest might offer him a deal that Nintendo can't they do have a That's that's very true. I think ready. He's like cool. No. Yeah, he's made his money. He got the bag from games He's still making the bag. What are we talking might be making more now than he ever did at nintendo Dude, he's got book sales going on book tours. He's got paid appearances and speeches He's a finger gun supporter He just works when he wants to have photo evidence of him doing finger guns with me in new york a few months ago Well, there you go. See my proudest moment No, but I I do think that it's it's exciting to see if we're gonna see any changes in Sony And you can say from a business perspective we you should just try to stay the course because they obviously what they're doing works And jim ryan navigated this entire time that he's been there with them staying very successful at the top But I wonder if you know, we get somebody in there that really tries to shake things up and just do like Crazy stuff that we haven't seen sony attempt for a long time You know, maybe do they get back into a true handheld gaming space and You know the the portals not just what they offer anymore, but something dedicated to know about that Like extreme stuff right away, but I do think In order to help sony's image more whoever does come in It's gonna do stuff that's not hard But that like is very consumer friendly that people will like partner esteem deck Like adding a bunch of ps2 and psp games to the I mean Small stuff that's like not hard, but just makes them look like oh, we're really turning a new leaf now You know what I mean lower the price of all of our subscriptions because we heard you It's over right right. Well, that'd be a big move. That would be a Huge like that. There's gonna be something Well, whenever this person's hired their first moves are going to be like super consumer friendly And I will say don't get fooled by it. They're trying to buy loyalty Yeah, of course exactly what they're gonna buy loyalty. That's the name of the game Yeah, but uh because of them watching suits everything this entire conversation just feels fair There's a lot more Is a lot more going on. Yeah, there's a lot but there is a lot of stuff going on We don't know everything's an ulterior motive. No, it's being honest with you There's no such thing as a good person But you got to make suits so good because it's actually true And there is like ulterior motives to all of this business shit all of it unless you're in love Oh, here we go. There could even be ulterior motives there Let me yeah, there is so um All right, we're gonna get through our last topic. This is the fan question topic Where are you guys gonna submit your questions in all you gotta do is super chat at least $2 at our live show And we will feature your question and or statement if you want us to just comment on statements you have um So yeah, you guys if you want to do if you don't you don't know be as long as you guys make this segment Be because of the last segment of the podcast today Our first one is coming in here from taker six 10 for two bucks saying, you know It might be switched to that outsells ps2. Do you guys think it's gonna happen? Disagree Why? Well, the way it's phrased it's implying switch one won't and I believe switch one will okay Switch to may also That jury's still out on that. We need more details I will say that something that seems to be boating really well for switch to Is that it's gonna have the best third party support we've ever seen for a nintendo system I mean at least based off the rumors. I think it's an easy yes. I mean, I think at some point even like The worst selling systems will eventually outsell the ps2 just because like over time So many more people game and it's just so more socially acceptable than it was when the ps2 came out Brandon what the ps2 had when it came out that really had it going for it was being a cheap dvd player as well Absolutely, that's that's what's crazy about it was cheaper than other dvd players At the time and it also played games. Yeah a lot of people never even used it to play Crazy the amount of houses that I went over to as a kid and Literally in the living room how every family watched their movies was on the ps2 and they didn't use it for well The kids used it for games, but to them the parents that was the dvd player I mean that that's that's why a lot of families bother people used to like play music on their tv's a lot And honestly, I think you look at how the ps2 is like that and that's what Xbox was trying to do with the 360 and then literally calling the xbox one the xbox one they wanted Like I wanted that multimedia the all-in-one device and now like any device can do all that so it's like whatever I fired my playstation it's That it has been to either streaming app that was logged into I mean it's true you're just waiting for spider-man 2 Hmm the movie So I don't think switch one's actually gonna outsell ps2 I've been on this, uh I think I'll come up just short. I agree with you. I but I think what you do well I think it might pass Yes Might like it's at 130 million. I think it'll get to 145 ish million That's something But I think once switch two comes out then sales are gonna nose dive so bad That I just don't think there's gonna be an extra 10 to 15 million in trailing. All right, so what I As of is some Why does that break your heart because like it doesn't have to outsell it like that's yeah, oh wait They could have ever hoped for can you guys answer this like why do we care? Why do fans care if it outsell ps2 like what does it matter? Why do you watch sports? Why do you care that another group of men are beating another group of men or women because why do you care? But video games aren't a good Oh, no, no, no, no, it's competition. How is it competition? I don't give the fucks how well other systems do I'm not I don't buy a switch thinking Fuckzoni, you know what though? If you've got that fanboy mentality, that's not keeping it clean You gotta keep I'm a red sox fan I'm a video game fan. Yeah, I love video games. Yeah. Oh, yeah You know what? I mean care. You're not keeping it clean right now. I just need you to keep it clean. Can you give me a favor off? I'm just kidding. I love you andre. I'm sorry. Thank you back Anyway All of us here care about switch sales, correct Well, yes, but I think it's fun. I think it's fun And I think this is why people care about it too is if it's historical Like you can say it to a friend who doesn't like why do I care about the dude? The switch is the best selling console of all time in gaming history. You're gonna miss out on that You know, like I don't know. I feel like it's a fun fact to say. It's not that it's important trivia Yeah, like, okay, but people do care about it Especially the core audience your average consumer doesn't but the core nintendo audience they care That's about our audience member because I just don't care. Well, either Hold on. Why are there news articles about box office sales for movies and things? Yeah, people care about stuff like that People care about Box office matters because if you don't do well, there won't be any more Well, same thing goes for a console if the nintendo repeated the we you we would be in a big problem right now Alrighty, we've already hit the sales mark where we're getting more right But In perspective to say it went down as the best console ever, you know How many tears of the kingdom sales videos did you make? Two only two. Yeah Only two that the launch sales and then the updated sales and then I release the numbers I'm gonna pose context of how well the game did not be like, oh, it did, you know We've only had two sales reports of tears of the kingdom. So what are we talking about? Did I get kicked out? No, it just I just like I lost you guys for like 10 seconds. Yeah, thanks for a second I'm gonna pose a wait. I'm getting owned and I couldn't even hear it. Which how would you own me? I didn't own nobody did I was looking at the chat. I just agree with that. I just agree with that As I didn't hear the response 90 of the time I take offense to that also. That's not keeping clean But but I mean we all pay attention to news because we care about how successful things are And it doesn't have to mean you hate other other platforms like good going back to the sports analogy I watched basketball teams just because I think they're good. Um, yes, I'm my favorite team is the Miami Heat, but I'll watch other basketball games. Yeah, I just enjoy exactly, but you also care about games. So, you know Maybe I don't care about Sony and Microsoft as much as you do Nintendo. There's no like allegiance. There's no local allegiance I just don't but here's the thing. That's a good point too. Right? We're just talking about three companies versus 30 NBA teams Yeah, but but it's still like one of those things that like yeah, but the the you can watch basketball Just to enjoy it, which I do but when obviously my team is playing I want them to win and I care about that I don't care. I'm on like like people look at me like oh, you're nintendo prime your team nintendo I'm like, no, I just play what I enjoy. I own all the damn system. I don't care who the best selling system is It literally doesn't matter to me all that matters that it sells enough that we keep getting more of them Like we debated. Oh, but here's the kingdom sell more than rest of the world Does it really matter as long as it sells well? I mean, that's the big thing. It sold well We're good. We're getting more as elbow We still talk about though because it's interesting to talk about it's a good indication of health to say that It's also a good indication of health of the business or or the console or even the franchise To say that wow the newest one that they released broke all the previous records, you know I'm not saying it doesn't mean anything I'm just saying as long as They are in the best financial position possible, which they really wouldn't be in a different position financially if it broke the record They're gonna be equally good no matter what. I mean technically as you can say yes, but You know what? I mean, we're like we're at the point we need to be and that's Now would it be cool like does that matter? Yeah, it does, but I just I think the thing that matters the most Has already happened and that's why I'm like, uh I'm gonna go out on a limb though. Takeer six times specifically brought up switch two I am just gonna make a prediction. It will outsell ps2 I also outsell the the original switch I agree. I'm gonna hit on more markets It's going to be more friendly and it's going to have all the games and Generation in decades where nintendo hits it back to back and keeps that momentum going All right, I'll make a different prediction I predicted switch three will outsell switch one and not switch two combined But it will also it will be the best like nintendo platform ever, but I do not think switch two will be The switch three is even gonna exist is already a big prediction. Oh, yeah. I'm bold nintendo doesn't do triplets like this So this will be interesting. Yep. I do nintendo. I do triplets like that However, has nintendo ever had back-to-back platforms that have sold over 100 million systems? No No And we'll if you count portable Um, that wasn't that's out same time ds and we was same time They literally That you could argue that was a golden age of nintendo at least in terms of 150 million systems And one is pretty insane. Yeah Software sales are strong now though. Yeah, the strongest they've ever been first system. They've had to go over a bill Yeah I would like to pose go ahead and under us if you're still No, I'm going on I would like to pose an idea that could I mean, it might it might be thinking too far in the future But the same way that yes, there will be a bigger gaming market and every kid that grows up now pretty much as a gamer there's also the argument that Games are evolving and that the traditional consoles might not sell the way that we're seeing them sell right now five ten years in the future in the sense that you have Say apple steps in and really tries to double down on the iphone 15 pro being a native game machine or Microsoft gets xcloud figured out to such a low latency thing that it's kind of like whatever device you have is what you game on Like we could very well be talking about a somewhat different landscape By the time we're getting to the end of the switch twos lifecycle than what we are seeing right now I don't think I think that's maybe like a generation Maybe the switch two does actually outsell the switch and it is just done better And then that kind of starts to be more of a factor like ten years down the line But I could see a world where the same way that There's not like that one big popular franchise that every kid is obsessed with anymore because there's so much content out there Between netflix and youtube and everything else That could kind of fizzle into gaming too where everybody just plays on the device that they have and there's not that one mega success That breaks those type of numbers in terms of console sales. It's a thought Sure, yeah, I mean another way that they could do it Is they just call it like the nintendo switch plus and they argue that it's the same family of systems and just keep extending this and If this has the switch name and they somehow pull off the game boy to game boy color thing where it's in the same family I case closed it's gonna be I mean But then that that just feels like that's nintendo counting it that way at that point Instead of them really winning it I would I think I would be like against that I would too. It feels like they're cheating. I mean If we actually do agree that we care about them winning that trophy quote-unquote or not of the best historical Gaming console sales of all time Then it would be cheating to call something seven years later, you know or eight years later The uh in the same family. It's not gonna be It's not gonna be I just I just had a throat out there is for fun. Uh, no, I mean it's that's it's definitely Was they took out backwards compatibility for ps2 games on the ps3 After like the first couple models. So like within a year They cut the price on the ps3 in order to do that they removed Backwards compatibility and for that reason they started making the ps2 slim Which was like $99 and they sold that sucker till like the 20 in the 2010s Yeah, I think the last game that came out for the ps2 was like 2013 or 2014 And because the ps3 wasn't backwards compatible That's something that really lifted the ps2 In addition everything else we talked about and I think the switch 2 will be backwards compatible Which leads to what nate said That the when the switch 2 comes out the the sales will really die because there is no reason It's true, you know unless they pull they did that with the Nintendo did that with the we if you think about it at the very end They took out the gamecube support and then they sold it for wasn't it 99 also or something crazy dirt cheap So imagine if there's a world where even though it's yes I don't think so either. Yeah, I wasn't the same way I think that worked for the playstation 2 because there was still games coming out for it and We you could play we games So yes, yes, and no one no one wanted that anyways So I do think there is an interesting difference Well at the beginning that everyone that wanted one already had one true Yeah, I do think there's an interesting difference to make with weak backwards compatibility though because smash was such a big deal And may lace like using game controllers and smash was such a big deal That taking the backwards compatibility out of the we and not being able to plug in your game to controllers anymore That matters more than other systems that lost backwards compatibility. Just putting that out there Not that I think it made a big difference, but you know You can't plug in your game controller to play brawl. It ain't right I was so happy when I saw that USB adapter that they released for the Wii U for smash like because that's that's how important the game to this day I only play smash with the gamecube controller. You can still plug into your switch. That's how that's how important it is I actually have no problem playing on the pro controller. I think the pro controller is great A lot of people some of my friends that I've grown up with playing my entire life on smash bros have now switched to the Pro controller, but I just can't I can't bring myself to do it. I love the button layout on gamecube Here's the thing about smash Beautiful you got there. It takes no skill. You can just smash buttons and just be good as any good competitive player Just because I have to say one thing to get me cancelled. Yeah, I was gonna say a jake's trying to get cancelled tonight Hey, that's not keep it a clean All right then, okay, um Charles Trudeau coming in here Uh, just a comment from earlier for two bucks and oh the november amiibo offered nintendo select So is that the like when I brought that up is that the first time you guys even thought about that idea? I've just thought like we're so far past the window when nintendo normally does it that they're probably not Going to do it on the switch and I also don't think they will If switch 2 is backwards compatible because I think they know there's a whole percentage of people who are going to go buy it For the first time and buy tears of the kingdom at 70 bucks and they're going to buy Super mario bros wonder at 60 bucks or anything therefore Well, yeah, and they very well could do that as well, but I would still have the two game deal on within his friend So members, so I could see them Doing it for certain games like mario odyssey was a good one because well Evergreen for a while it really died off So giving you know People that haven't had those games or possibly people that didn't have an og switch A bigger selection of software to choose from at the beginning to get them hooked on the system I mean there's things about it that makes sense Yeah, so I guess the So the thing is they've done deals throughout the generation like there was a mario deal During the 35th anniversary you get certain mario games for cheaper every once in a while They have a sale for a certain grouping of games and not a permanent Like yeah, not like a price adjustment It's better that way because they they can keep could they continue They can continue to come up with different strategies to try to get to it by different groupings of games And I just I just think they're gonna do that I I I don't think that I thought it was a good idea But once I thought about a little bit more and how they've had different types of deals Throughout the generation. I think they're gonna continue with that. But also something else to consider is What was I gonna say? Damn it brain. Damn it. I had something. It's gone All right, I'll come back to it later. It happens to like one out of five guys. I think don't worry Not keeping it clean over there It's just because it's past my bedtime It's not even this is actually early on the podcast right to be honest. It is don't tell me past your bedtime I don't hold that you stay up. I didn't even have any I didn't pass my it's past my time to be interacting with people I've seen your podcast go later than this. What are you doing? I I I've I've I'm done by this point you watch my podcast if you watch my podcast past 10 30 You know that I'm like delirious already. Andres is supposed to be watching The topic you got 100 you're gonna be dreaming about suits I think I legitimately had a couple dreams about suits when I was like in the middle of injuring it. Yeah, so Um, we got this this internal prime guy coming in. I don't know He owns the owned the private island. I've been told Um, he says you have any advice for what it takes to be as successful on youtube keep it clean I got this one great super ready ready guys You find a friend who's on youtube you jump on their podcast and you say absolutely nothing That's how you do it. You should take that advice because I would I wish you would say less And I'll leave it to the experts So I'll throw that to the other fellow youtubers out there because I feel like it's a little ironic if I answer the question So Well Whoa, whoa, whoa, I said most successful. I was arguing but that's relative Yeah, success is success is relative Yeah, Eric you're successful. Listen. Listen, Eric has has the most notoriety with the least Well, I don't I don't think I'm gonna stop talking because no matter what I say I feel like I'm gonna insult somebody So I'm just gonna shut up I was gonna say that you have the most notoriety with the least amount of effort That you're not wrong. I would agree with that. So and what was he saying? Have a friend do the content creator or just be on the show and say absolutely nothing Good advice Honestly I'll say this real quick. I mean I think if you're just starting youtube or you have a like a very small channel like Less than like one k subscribers I think the best thing that you can do in this day and age on youtube is live stream Even if you don't want to be a streamer because when I started my channel it was Late 2019 basically 2020 But all I had I had zero subscribers and all I did was live stream me playing pokemon For five to eight hours a day every day for 30 days and in 30 days I went from zero to one k And that brought me a small base of people to start watching my videos and then I would make more videos about I always made videos about stuff that was trending but also stuff that I really was passionate about And interested in and that helped a lot like when animal crossing came out I made a bunch of videos that popped out for that And of course a lot of you guys know six months after that When I tried to pre-order a ps5. I started live streaming that And then even though I never wanted to be a streamer. I started and I started enjoying live streaming But even if you know that you don't want to be a streamer and you and you don't want to fall in love with it by accident You just want to make videos at your only goal. You never want to stream Start by streaming because that because your videos won't it's very low chance. They pop up in the algorithm But if you stream you'll have a loyal group of people that will always check out your new videos for the most part That's good advice. I would say to piggyback off of that not only just the Play around probably with different content styles and see what you enjoy the most But also make sure you see so much because nowadays people associate youtubers with like high income And it's like okay, that must be nice for the people who are pulling that off But you really have to make sure you don't pick a niche or whatever you're going to target for Paying the bills. It has to be something you like truly care about love and are passionate about because Otherwise if it feels like a job, you're not going to want to do it it's not going to be a like To keep yourself going to like consistently post content if that's what you want to do You really do have to Make it about something that you love to talk about naturally And then it's and then it's something you're excited to do as opposed to it being like Ah, I got to do this because I committed to this or whatever it is I also think so many big games came out that I skipped over because I just wasn't interested And then like after animal crossing the biggest thing for me was the pokemon sword Sword and shield dlc and that was my first live stream where I got over 10,000 people watching like it got over 100,000 views And that was like the most obscure random thing to pop off And but it was something that I really cared about like and I had the background on it So it was easy for me. It makes it way easier when you're passionate about it That's just I just couldn't agree more with everything you said Done anything to add andress Um, I think I remember what I was talking about with the amiibo Um Yeah, you guys may it wasn't really kind of discussed But I just was going to say that you know, I think nintendo keeping the pricing of their games Where they're at having the discounts But also by keeping the price it facilitates the evergreen sales to maintain until it doesn't like to drop the value of their games And they're still doing well now Then there's no need to drop the prices of them permanently That said in terms of like youtube advice Not that I feel like I'm extremely successful on youtube, but that is all relative It is ultimately down to Being very unhealthy about about this because it's it's very competitive And I think if you don't love it, you shouldn't do it But also, you know, you have to be willing to try and I I've talked to way too many people who have Had ideas And don't execute You got to try if if you if you waste too much time Um, just thinking about it and like kind of envisioning it but never actually doing it You're gonna miss the boat. You just got to do it. Uh, that's that's the most important step And I think that's the biggest barrier of entry for most people and you know, um, I think yosha should be should open to to experimentation And when I say that I don't mean do weird stuff. I just mean try be willing to try out different ideas um Not a public space Anyway, like yeah, you should you know Explore different things find what you enjoy and when you find that thing you enjoy continue with it That and if you truly enjoy it You will be willing to put more work into it than other things and that will eventually The number one thing I hear people say that want to do youtube is they like It's just not the right time like I'm gonna wait till I buy this equipment or I'm gonna wait till this is happening Like no, just do it now with whatever you've got going on. You have some free time Especially if you're a gamer, you know what I mean take some of that Time to talk about gaming news or whatever even if so even if you're using your normal video game playing time You're still talking about something that you like like yeah That's kind of can sound harsh, but honestly, it's just to try to help you like you can do it In your current circumstances I mean Like just The the big the biggest thing is don't think too much about it Just do it if you're thinking about it just do it like you're I mean even mr. Beast gives that advice sometimes like hey, man Go look at the first videos on my channel at the garbage Like it doesn't matter. He just knew what he wanted to do. So he just did it And so just do it like the the the hardest thing is like waiting or thinking you need to quit man Or think I like dude if you have a cell phone you have everything you need You can record your voice with your cell phone if you want to be on camera You can do video with your cell phone you can even edit on your cell phone Like everything you need is already there in your pocket just to get started Like it's it's not it's easier to get in now than it what it used to be I'll say that yeah, I remember Back in like 2010 2011, you know when I was starting college um, I had this idea to do kind of like um Like this sort of blog with a couple of friends like we called it half a plan Like it was meant to just kind of like have fun and talk about different cool nerdy things Right and I wanted to talk about games then but since it was half a plan I only it only went on for like a month But you know, I kind of wish maybe I devoted some of that effort into doing youtube Then because had I started doing youtube then I probably would have like, I don't know a million subscribers right now. Um, so I think the sooner you start the better Yep, you would yeah if you started doing nintendo content. I bet the switch would have helped sold the ps2. I know probably In general, but like passion is important if you're not passionate about it Don't do it. Don't waste your time doing something you don't like also don't This is like the biggest advice I get to people when I get asked this question is just don't go into youtube expecting to make money Do it first and you love it and if you want to build it into something have a plan But first remember that you're doing it because you love it And If you like and this happens to youtubers There's a lot of channels way bigger than mine They get less views and it's because they lost the passion. They're just doing it still because they make money um, and like That's a hard thing too is if you do get to the point that you're making money that actually matters on youtube Still don't let that distract you from why you're doing what you do and why you enjoy it because if you focus so much on the money Uh, you end up like not enjoying it. I get this person. Well, they why you make it so many switch to videos Yeah, obviously they get good views, but it ain't just because of the money. I actually love talking about upcoming technology It's something I'm super passionate about. It's something he's been passionate about my entire life. So like This is not this is what I like to do. So I'm I love that I get to hype up this system and stuff like that Um, what's another thing that you guys saw me do a lot of videos on I'm super passionate about zelda So I had all these zelda videos. It wasn't just because they were getting views I actually legitimately love reporting and talking about zelda stuff. So oh, that was such a fun time Every day every day with some news. I'm excited like oh a few The footage in a commercial you get super hyped about it and like people are like, oh, you're just doing it for the money No, I'm legitimately sitting back here smiling Making content loving that like I'm hyper examining these three extra seconds of footage. It's fun If anything I I would say YouTube comments suck Yeah, the media comments in general can suck. Well, they so yes. Yes. Yeah, social media. It's just being online in general But you definitely get the more shit you get and it's it's it's kind of it's kind of unfortunate because like It's totally right. Like you should do this because you love it and if you are under the impression that youtubers do things for money You're in for milk. I'm milk. Like you just you just don't understand. You don't get it Unrealistic people think you make way more money to do there was a there was a person on x the other day that was like Oh, yeah, you just make these videos to get 10,000 views to make money and I'm a dude Yeah, I'm really salivating that 20 bucks. I made on my last 10k video. He's like, oh, you're lying You forgot a few zeros send him a screenshot. Oh, don't you know that you could change things? I I know that you can go on to the the browser and make it say whatever you want All right, cool. Well, here's a video of me going into my back and clicking on the video and hey look at that I only made 21 dollars. Yeah, like it doesn't make as much money as you think it does Um, and and here's like I actually do youtube full time. It is my job It's been my only job since november of last year and the crazy thing about it is the only reason That I can actually do it full time is because I happen to have a ton of community support on all of my live streams That I still don't understand why I'm getting it and where the hell it comes from I don't get why there's You know, we have like 307 members paid members at the moment 120 something of those are gifted five dollar memberships. Where the hell is that coming from? Bama hut. Yeah, shout out to you, buddy But like it's crazy like the the amount of community support That I get and that's really what enables me to keep going not what the views are on the videos Like yeah, it'd be nice if my videos made all the money and it's cool But I it's not really like there is a goal in the back of my mind because it's my job but also I'm good like I love what I do and Look, it switched to bombs. It doesn't do well. I'm still gonna make videos like it's I'm passionate about this stuff I'm not good people like are you gonna pivot me a ps5. Oh, no, I'm passionate about nintendo I'm gonna keep making videos on nintendo stuff It is like you gotta you gotta love what you're doing. That's first and foremost even if I ever quit doing it full time Go back working a full-time job somewhere else. I'm still gonna make videos. I'm just not gonna make them as often But I'll still make them. I'm not going away. I love it. It's it's interesting because I um There was a point where I wasn't really even kind of thinking about Trying to do youtube full-time like but shortly before I went into being youtube full-time full-time effort. Um But I I was kind of thinking like oh I'm just gonna do this forever like there is like I'll even if I have to do another type of work Like I can't really envision myself stopping. It's part of what I do Because I enjoy this. I like talking about games. I like making thumbnails I like making really cool crazy nintendo theories that gets me going. That's why I do it nails I might need to hire you Because I hate making thumbnails. Oh really part of the job. I hate making thumbnails. You know what I hate doing b-roll B-roll is one of my favorite parts Finding the perfect parts in a trailer to put on my favorite part is adding background music I I do like that part and we'll have the perfect youtuber who loves everything What if we did each other's parts like I'll make the thumbnails you could put the background music you do the b-roll Could work we all keep it clean That's the name of the channel keep it clean keep it clean. All right, hold on. I do want to throw this out there though for Andre Andre Um You have over 10,000 subscribers, right? So you are already doing better than 98.2% of youtubers Just to throw that out there. Yeah, I'm on me. Yes Uh, I have 32 but yeah, I know you have over 10,000. He's the same because you have over 10,000. You're at the top You're probably in the top one and a half percent of youtube. Yeah right now. Oh, yeah, I would also Oh, I don't know. It's all relative. Well, here's a relative fact. You're in the top 1.5 of all creators. Have a good day Yeah, also just to like, you know, my final thoughts on that is like Comparison is legitimately the thief of all joy in the sense that if you're looking at everybody else around you And what numbers they have instead of valuing like the community that you've already built or That's how I feel about You couldn't have said it better That's a good way to tie it back to that Maybe that's why we have that difference in philosophy. It's very possible I just think that if you're starting out Nobody's gonna be I mean, and I don't ever have aspirations to make it to mr. Beast level. That's not what I care about I care about doing something that I love that can hopefully one day pay the bills full time. That's that's it But for some people Like mr. Beast being the best on youtube is actually what drives him and being the most popular and the most successful But that doesn't mean the but if you're starting out you shouldn't like let the fear of Being a small channel stop you because the minute you start to get one or two comments from people that you can go back and forth Have an enjoyable conversation with that's already a win and more than what some people ever accomplish You just got to like enjoy the journey all along the way too. Absolutely important absolutely Um, we have one last question submitted unless somebody else gets them in. Oh, look, it's that nintendo prime bastard again I don't know what he's doing. He says remember you have to super chat to get your questions in five dollars. Apparently I'll do a shot. I don't know where he is He's already doing the shots He asked what are your top five favorite games of all time and why what a fun question That's a great question. I'll let one of you guys start fair. You know what mate? You've been taking them last Why don't why don't you take this one? Keep it clean? Well, here's the thing. I've already answered this question Like seven or eight fair It's I don't have a top five Do you know yours off the top you're in? You don't have a top five It can it can not be like set in stone that's yeah, you can say like what you think your top five might be in this moment In this moment. Oh, that's okay Prime one two and three there's three Here's to the kingdom Now i'm gonna pick different games just to spite you It's yours. It's your list. You're spying yourself Oh, he's gotta go google it up. It's gotta go google it up. No, I'm i'm i'm i'm i have a stick my sticky notes up Oh I'm not not completely sure on my order, but I know my number one and I know I think I know my top five Okay, you go first. All right. So number one easy final fantasy seven og on ps1 That's probably the game that got me into gaming. I played it when I was six years old and like It changed my whole life um Again, that's one of my go-to games that I replay. I just like That game fascinated me and just stayed with me forever um My most recent game that's in my top five for sure is uh god of war ragnarok nice The story I thought god of war for ps4 was okay Didn't didn't go crazy about it. I thought it was a pretty good game but for some reason ragnarok just like blew me away that like a game hasn't so that's probably my second favorite because that like it's was since final fantasy seven to experience A game blowing me away like that because and again, it was the story. That's the x factor for me and my favorite games um, so that's probably number two then Oh, yeah, tears of the kingdom I mean breath of the wild Became one of my favorite games, but then here's the kingdom for me. I know that not everyone feels the way but for me It improved on everything Breath of the wild and sure there's a couple niche things that breath of the wild might have done better, but for me just I don't know when I first play breath of the wild I've told you this before I didn't really like it and I put it down And then a year later I came back to it when I was stuck in the hospital for like three weeks and that's when it clicked And then I couldn't get enough of it But then when I played tears of the kingdom It was that same experience as when breath of the wild clicked, but I had it from day one So that's why that's why I put tears of the kingdom ahead of it and then I'll probably pokemon heart gold full silver as you know, I'm a huge pokemon fan and I really like The first two gens the most though Even though I've I've played every gen a hundred times But what they did in gen four with those gen two remakes I thought that was peak and probably persona five Probably my favorite ps4 game And if it's not it's tied with Horizon zero dawn for ps4 so I again I might be forgetting something, but I think that I think that would be my top five All right I'd just get your sticky note ready. You need more time Kind of yeah, I got it. Okay. I'm gonna cheat a little bit all right Because it's just it's just so hard because there's certain games. I loved I didn't like, you know like I like paper Mario games luigi's mansion wave race kittakriss uprising Dark souls blood borne monster hunter like it's tough. Um So I'm gonna give you 6.5 games 6.67. Um, all right, so this is this is honorable mention. All right Oh, I have this is just a terrible list anyways, so I'm just gonna put blanket super mario because I can't just pick a single 3d. It's 3d mario game specifically But I can't pick a specific 3d mario game, but I have 100% at every single 3d mario game and let's see You're telling me you can't zero in on sunshine on undress. Come on I lie actually I have That's the one that's the one game. I haven't 100% of the 3d marios. That's my controversial take on 3d marios That's my favorite one. Believe it or not But I think interestingly I have a lot of nostalgia for mario sunshine I do plan on 100%ing it actually it just haven't gone around to getting all the blue coins Um, it's tough, but like and I can't just pick one above them all. So that's why I'm just saying blanket super mario I will mention anyways wasn't but yeah, you are referring to specifically 3d mario, right 3d. Yes. Yeah I don't just But but yeah, I I do include 3d land in that lineup though Which is obviously 3d world Yeah, it's in it's in there. Yeah. Um, right. So that's your top five. Thanks All right, so this is that all the 3d marios are just missed the cut Yeah, it's probably it's probably like one of those things where they kind of steal votes from each other Yeah, probably so that is it's what it is. Um On that note, uh, this is also like a a bs answer. I'm just gonna say xeno blade I can't pick a single xeno blade game, but I I will replay all of them And I have at least removed two from the list No No, I actually almost picked you wouldn't put three or one over two Personally, I just really enjoyed the story and world of two like a lot. I really love the cloud sea I love the giant the giant titans That you can see moving in the background. I really love the cast I No, also the combat system is the best They get just No, can't all right. All right. If anything I might even you might even be convinced me to put two above the rest I sound like you're convinced to yourself. I don't know because three is really good Yeah, but once uh Just xeno blade, okay Just you should just play you should just get all of them and play them from beginning to end and then do it Again, even though they are completely independent games We'll move each other is uh top five that is not true. Um, the stories are all connected In the way final fantasy games are connected connected That was a pretty good literally connected if you play everything But they're but you can you can enjoy them without playing the other ones Yeah, yeah, they are self contained in like the story they tell within but there is a world The world is connected. Yeah Well and characters and those characters and there's You'll see they drop like connected everything Sure Which is also true for function. That's a future connected ammo. They're they're it's very They're very connected except for zeno blade x that one's a Yeah, anyway, uh now i'm getting back to more like single games. Yeah, like so f zero gx Whenever I play f zero gx the straight Complete bliss it gives me It's just it's out of this world Like when you play f zero gx and you boost above a ramp and you are just gliding At like thousands of kilometers per hour and you hear the music kind of blasting Like it just gives you this this incredible sense of freedom And you're just like less freaking go and you just boost all your life out If you hit anything you blow up put stakes makes it more interesting You just barely get first with just like a millisecond left like I have a difference between Oh, yeah Yeah, that's your gx. It's it's just an amazing experience that I kind of wish they Would have announced that already, but maybe it'll it'll be even better on switch. Yeah, they better. Yeah Yeah, 99 is great 99 is great, but 99 is just like I did it to me when they first heard about it Yeah, but gx is is to me literally the best racing game ever made That's how I would I would agree with that statement believe it or not And I think it's especially whenever it comes to fast reaction times and how fast it feels like you're moving like you said Like to drive home that point it is literally You feel like you don't have like less than a millisecond to react to anything that's about to happen Any twist or turn and you really have to memorize the stages to have a fighting shot at doing that thing on the highest difficulty I mean, it's insane so much fun It's it's amazing, but yeah, also it may lead to you breaking your gameplay controller. So that too Then not out of frustration all that could be an option It may just because like if you try to just to do um snaking Which is a really in Mario Kart. It's not as crazy of a mechanic, but in f0. It's like an insane thing You'll probably rip off like the thumb pad of the control stick after a while. It's it's intense anyways Yeah, gx the best recent game ever made Um, the best horror game ever made is Resident Evil 4 and I've replayed that game like 10 times which version I That's a good question. I haven't played the remake yet. I probably I I'd absolutely need to um So that's I Are you like do you like the Wii controls or do you like one of the controls are very good? Yeah, I would say that Resident Evil we addition is better Is the is the best of the original versions? Um Because it takes it has the gamecube visuals, which were better than the ps2 But it has the ps2 extras and it also adds the pointer controls Which I think actually make the game a little bit faster and a little bit easier, but it they're fun Yeah, it's a good game for that works well. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess I would say I would I do kind of refer the Wii version although I will also argue that I don't like the setup of the Nintendo Wii how there's like a sensor bar And depending on how your living room setup is or wherever you're playing they can get kind of awkward So in general, I don't actually like IR controls just because this if you don't have the setup right It's really annoying. So when the setup is right, it feels really good Otherwise I um, I guess I I'm fine with the modern remastered versions Which are you know, it's a game like I I have no problem playing on switch. I have it on switch. It's it's fine I like it as is but after that For I guess my second greatest game of all time It is metroid prime Well, I I played games so I said xeno blade f zero resume four and you know, it's a oh, yeah xeno blade I forgot about that. Yeah, okay, even though I didn't pick a specific one Yeah So but yeah metroid prime It's it's a it's a straight masterpiece. I think everyone agrees. So Yeah, it's it's incredible I've replayed that game many times. It's one of the most it's a very that's actually one of the things that kind of led to me Doing this list every game on this list I've replayed Multiple times and I have no problem going back to them. They're that good But also they are amazing the first time like it's Just incredible. Um But the final game zelda Well, about that It is zelda, but it's not one game I just bunched breath along to the kingdom as one game because I can't I it's hard for me to distinguish it for me It's one continuous adventure and I'll tell you That shortly before Tuesday the kingdom came out. I was undecided if breath as well as my favorite game of all time Uh, because I would say for years Growing up. I was always like, oh ocarina of time ocarina of time like that was kind of like the easy Me me as well. That was the easy choice and it's funny is it because the right latest zelda is almost like Ocarina of time is like no longer in the list anymore which feels unfair, um And then also wind waker while I print this those are also like they're they're all up there, right? But uh, Yeah, breath of the wild and whatever I play the game Because the side project like not like a replace the mainline release, but oh, I really hope they do that I think they need something zelda early to kind of showcase a switch hardware So I'm I'm hoping they could do another Brand new 2d zelda They should do that too. I think I wouldn't be surprised if that's already done Yeah, in the gap between the next That was my all of that should be there for the Nintendo Direct. They would just drop like announce that title screen I You know how it's showcasing how like there's some gaps next year, right? Even if we assume like the switch to launch like I could see 2d zelda being I think something zelda's coming out next year one zelda year, right? And we have nothing on the books, right? roughly Yeah, either that or it's why the princess wind maker finally get dropped 2022 kind of Killed that though the one zelda year. Yeah, but that's the one exception I think it just because they had here's the kingdom planned That's true and It was coming out may it's such a big release So they figured it probably makes more sense just to delay that and not shove in another zelda when we don't really need it And yeah, it's hard with 2021 drive. Yeah Yeah And I think they just figured they would save twilight princess and wind maker for The long gap it made more sense to save something like that for then as opposed to just rushing it out I agree. Yeah satisfy that rule. I think that's what they're doing here Yeah, so but yeah awkwardly time. I mean, uh, oh awkwardly time for That's the real number one. It's it's come back. Uh, no, but breath a while. I think It's just there's elements from breath a lot in series of the kingdom like together Like they just do so much for me Like I was rewatching the ending scene for tears of the kingdom for like the fifth time Still giving me goosebumps. It's still giving me goosebumps. Yeah crazy One of the best ever in the whole series so good. Yeah All right, I'm bro. Oh wait, Eric you ready to go to Eric. Eric's got games. He's played enough for five I just want to make sure you play five I've only played five total games my whole life, but you know, um Madden No, none of the maddens will make any of the topless I mean, if I wasn't an nfl fan, I would not even play I was six with the old training camps was not probably the best one 2k 5 Yeah, 2k 5 was better 2k 5 was the best. Yeah playing jamey kennedy exhibition Yeah Yeah playing jamey kennedy Oh goodness so Tears of the kingdom is obviously in my top Probably the top Then in really no specific order um It meant one Congress bad for a day. Yes banjo kazooie. Yes snowboard kids great pick Yes, which one which number is one or two? This kid loves the n64 He loves the n64 One probably more than two, but still I like them both. Um, and then Left for dead because I had one or two. Yes, that that one. Yes that one. I can't That one is I had so many freaking nights playing that game with friends. Yeah, it was just I can't I can't pick question the tears of the kingdom kick mario 64 off Yes Breath of the wild did too. Okay. I mean, I'm just asking because I know that used to be in the top five No, for sure. Absolutely. Yeah, and and It's it's right there. I mean, I love mario 64. I pretty much love all of my 64 games just because that's what I started out on and I just had a lot of days playing those and yeah, and that was when I can actually play games It's funny all the n64 games and you see tears of the game then he just slips in left for dead Just out of nowhere. Hey We gotta have some uniqueness on this list. So yeah, that's kind of where I'm at for five there Just mainly mainly because of they were A lot of games that I I'm a gamer who likes to play with other people or watch other people play games I'm couch co-op like that Um Because I'll sit down. How many days did I come over to your house and we just do a set and watch you play Zelda Stare at me playing video games back then. Yeah. Now. I'm like, dude, you have your own switch. Play it while I'm playing What are you doing? Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what it is, but uh, it was more of a I had so much fun playing with all my friends back in that day And my you know, my sister my family everything like that just with with those games that You know, it's just hard for hard to beat that now because A lot of games you necessarily can't do that Nostalgia that too Sorry About the last of a series. I just got to give that a mention. That's it Here is what I will say Anyone that uses nostalgia in a negative sense does not understand what the definition of nostalgia is It's a positive feelings positive affirmations Nostalgia is not a negative If someone likes something due to nostalgia, you should say that's awesome I'm really glad that you can have nostalgia for something because that's an extremely positive feeling I love that feeling. Um, you know, it's kind of neat, uh, like Getting that feeling for games that have even come out during the switch era Like whenever I look at things Like it's interesting playing tears at the kingdom because it kind of gives me nostalgia for a breath of a while Which is kind of funny even though like given how recent it all is but It's cool like looking at Like I'm just thinking about different switch games that I have nostalgia for which is just weird because how recent it is But I think that kind of goes to show one how long the switch generation has been But also I think the games that do give you that nostalgia They they actually they did something to you, right? They left an impact on you. They've permanently kind of there's a term For this it's called instant classic Something instant classic is where you're creating that happy nostalgic memory in the moment And you just recognize that this is that moment that like this is I mean that happened for the rest of the while But like I knew in that moment that this was a nostalgic moment for me And I'm literally experiencing like I there's a recognition that this is an all-time classic And I'm going to be nostalgic about it in the future because I'm having so much fun Um, yeah, yeah Um, I did forget my favorite switch game of all time on my list ahead of tears of the kingdom Oh Is it the trumpet game that just came out? Dragon Quest builders too You've heard me say it before. Yeah. Yeah, you've brought it up before So some bro, I have no idea what games you play. So this is gonna be interesting See, I have an idea on jake. I understand I talked a lot eric I literally knew his top five before he said it Um, I was almost shot. Well, so tomorrow 64 to make the list. I didn't know that wasn't gonna happen, but Some bro get ready for a lot of zelda Three of the three of the five or zelda I'm gonna spoil that I'm gonna start at the top because similar to what jake said Instead of it being final fantasy 7 zelda akraina time Is what made me a gamer because I had played games before that super mario all stars on the snes I really got into But I had never like been so hooked on a game that it's all I could think about When I wasn't playing it like my first priority was to get back to Riding a pona through hyrule and finding out what else I could you know uncover and The progression of the dungeons in that game and I mean that's why I still want more Unique elemental dungeons to this day because of how epic it was to conquer the forest temple fire water You know spirit and shadow to have that whole thing come together the way it did It's just And not to mention just what it did for 3d games with zlok on targeting and just if you just look at it for How it progressed the 3d gaming you know era as a whole. I think that alone makes it It stands the reason why it is where it is in the metacritic score Even though that's not an end all be all type of metric But anyway akraina has to take number one just for that particular reason I would love to slot majora's mask side by side with it, but i'm not going to Just because I think one game does So well what the other one does it and vice versa and majora you get the closer look at the npcs and akraina time It's more of the broad grand adventure But believe it or not number two, we're going to leave majora off this list even though I absolutely adore that game Number two is actually wind waker Because when I first got a game cube Funnily enough wind waker what I had originally gotten an xbox after having an n64 And I did not play my xbox near as much as I thought I would probably just because of the age That I was at the time. It wasn't quite in the halo crowd yet And while I enjoyed a lot of stuff that was on there Then maybe two years after the console release. I can't even remember what year it was that I got it But I want to say it was around the two-year time frame wind waker I knew it was the zelda game that was on game cube. That's what motivated me to get a game cube or ask my mom for that christmas to get one And uh, it was on sale for 20 bucks as a player's choice in walmart And I bought wind waker before I even had a game cube knowing that I would get a game cube that year for christmas I think that the price of the game cube was down to 99 dollars around the time That was probably exactly why like I got it as a second console Because normally it was like you were getting one game console for whatever like pick playstation or pick Like that's why you always had the friend that had like the sega genesis or the you know They had something you didn't have type of thing. That's at least how it was for me anyway Wind waker I studied the the box art the back of the cover everything before I finally got to play it And when I did like that just cemented me as like, oh, yeah, okay the zelda franchise like apparently I love this series more than anything else. I've even come in contact with Because the story in that game is incredible It's legitimately therapeutic to sail the open seas and see like that like that cell shaded art style at the time Like it was before I was online enough to know that people were talking shit on it constantly But I legitimately like enjoyed that for a zelda game and I thought it looked incredible I still think that's why that wind waker looks more impressive in its hd version now than a lot of games um So that's that's top two zelda And then metroid prime Is number three and that's really hard to not put in the number two spot That was a five dollar pickup from a game exchange that literally It was towards me owning the game cube for a while and I was just looking for more games to play And I'm not a 3d first person guy for the most part like Third person all day long showing my character But when it comes to like aiming and shooting and first person's just never into that stuff And still to this day, I don't play first person shooters like for the most part But that lock on targeting and the exploration and the platforming that came along with it and the constant progression of upgrading You know unlocking samus's new abilities the puzzle aspect the backtracking even to find out like oh now I can unlock the store that I couldn't before enthralled with that game like through and through Primary master just reignited that talk about a nostalgic Trip that was incredible So that that's immense easy at number three and it's hard because all these games could easily move around for different reasons then dark souls 3 is actually I would say my most enjoyable souls game and it's really close for 1 through 3 But that is that scratches that itch from like being a kid and not being good enough to Like pass a game and you just have to keep doing it over and over and you finally get that payoff Some of the bosses and the fights that you have in that game are so intense That when you finally have the run where you successfully conquer the boss that you were Stuck on for you know god knows how many tries or hours Like you have to go to bed angry one night failing The the black dragon that's towards the end of the game Because you can't beat him and so you come back the next day and try and fail all day the next day And then you try again and you finally do it that that rush is like at the top of my list of just gaming experiences Uh and then to round out the list at number five is tears of the kingdom And that's hard for me to even put tears of the kingdom at number five It's incredible and I mean the story it took zelda to the next level in so many ways But for like the other reasons I just had to rank it at the bottom of top five, but that's still an extremely like selective list so And tears of the kingdom I actually think You we can't even fully appreciate how much it's done in terms of like the open air concept Like that is something you really don't see like you can be technically impressed by graphics all day long on the other platforms But as far as diving off of a sky island and literally being able to go straight into like When you make that statement that you haven't played dragon quest builders too, but that's fun I'll I'll accept that because I I don't I don't have any experience with that game. In fact dragon quest is a series I actually need to give a a chance to builders is more like zelda breath the wild than it is like minecraft It's like really pomenachi life mixed with animal crossing mixed with zelda Okay, except it does a ton of quality life improvements that are better than tears of the kingdom and breath the wild Like a lot of the new ideas and tears of the kingdom came from dragon quest builders too Like you can tell we're like directly, but i'm going to shut up about it. I just love that I just want people to give it a chance. I'm not saying to point your top That's a solid I mean that's a solid argument. That's a solid argument to check it out. Honestly. Um. Yeah, that's my best sales pitch Yeah, yeah, it works. I mean, I Yeah, that's but that's it that's the that's the top five I keep going forever if we if you let me but I'm not gonna be Andres and do six point six seven. No, I mean, we all we all rocked for a while. No, I'm joking. Eric's the most Yeah, Eric had the most going on he was talking talking and talking um I actually think a six through ten More interesting than a one through five. Yeah, you're probably right about that. Well, you get some more widespread I was text messaged by Nintendo Prime himself. He wanted the ass top ten Unfortunately, he figured that that might take up like three hours of conversation. I mean that should be its own podcast Yeah, that's like a that's like an entire maybe we do a six through ten next week. I don't know. Yeah Next one you tell the chat to put their Wait till we go through every system of all time and go top ten every system go You know be an even more interesting list Okay, give a top five of games that are not in your top ten Which I guess is That's not keeping it clean Convoluted little convoluted a little dirty 15 through 10. Heck you joy CJ chiming in with the fiverr first off joy Thank you so much. I Guess the idea was just trying to get it. It's just like Think about good games that people aren't talking about that much. Yeah, honey. Got it Rose three I will say this if we had we could do a top 20 someday and we can kind of like breeze through a top five Like we don't have to really explain it because we already did it Had a time, you know, I let you guys know Hey, we're gonna make the time next week want to put your list together There is guys get more time than no, no, no would actually be kind of cool You guys thought you must not just one or two games That is in maybe it's even in your top ten, but it's like my pick Dragon Quest builders to where they are just More obscure like they wouldn't be in most top ten list that you see And we could send you a few of ours me and then you pick Naruto clash of ninja see yes up like that. I like that I know what that is on the on the on the NES before Okay, see that's the value of it, right? We're like what what's that and now we want to know return to Anyways For that joy CJ. Yeah, I did I just did it. I just did it a question for the Zelda fans What's your favorite song one come on? Do any of us like Zelda? I don't know. I'm not sure What's your favorite song and or score from the Zelda series and why is it the dragon roosting that is her favorite? That's a solid. That's a solid pick Let's go. What do you guys got what's your favorite pick one hard to pick one? Very hard to pick one. Zelda's lullaby for me. What do you think music was the first thing that pops in your mind? Zelda's lullaby still gives me goosebumps to this day when I hear it when it's played like the OG track There's been a few different videos. I've made about the ocarina of time PC port And I'll use it as the background and I'm editing the video and I'm literally like, oh, oh, hang on. I have goosebumps here I'd let me yeah, like this Yeah, awesome. Nice. That was mine as well. Zelda's lullaby. Yeah, I think it looks like opponents So, oh, those are all those are all amazing Those are all amazing, but I'm gonna I'm gonna be real with you guys Like the music that's been stuck in my head over the last few months has been tears of the kingdom music like I think about Rara's theme like it just plays in my head It's so good. Can we play Rara's theme? Can we play it right now? Is that possible? No, no Everyone's and then we're just sitting here. Yeah, but it's so good I will put it as the outro music on the audio version Okay The whole thing play Okay, you know, right, but There's just the music design to the king was just so good like when you dive down Yeah, especially the first time Well that part but I was just thinking from the sky right when you're coming down from the sky and then it changes As you land but when you go through the depths and the horn. Oh, that's just crazy Rara's theme Well, maybe Rara's theme but also what the theme that plays when at the very little of the last Gameplay moment of tears of the kingdom. I'm not saying what because I don't want to see yeah The last gameplay moment of tears of the kingdom. There's no spoilers. There's no spoilers Right, but that the music that plays then and how it adapts and changes is just so good. Yeah It's magical. It is magical So Which song then is number one? I have no idea what that one's You said Robert's theme as well. That's currently the song that literally plays Got it. Yeah, what do you got? Honestly, my my favorite I don't I don't I can't like think of like one favorite But for me like the music that like comes to mind whenever I think as Zelda as much as I love tears of the kingdom is Ocarina time and I think that just goes to show what a good game it is It's why you said Zelda's all the way I would think like Larrow fire the the temple themes. Yeah, what's the one? Yeah With a chanting right? Yes, but not not not the song you play but they do have the chanting in the background Yeah, yeah, that's that's what I mean. I don't know. I got you the dungeon I was thinking of the teleport themes to get you to the dungeon Though the one to get you to the spirit temple that would be a roof. That's a close That's a close one there. I'll bolero fire. Let's just So There's a lot of songs to pop my head My favorite has typically always been the final song in spirit tracks during the maledicts fight So good all the instruments coming together in that moment. Oh, it's just it's just great, but Oh It's the grudel valley. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah top tier That's my favorite recently by the same thing called garros theme is my current favorite on repeat double song I'd also like to make a solid argument for song of healing. It's so good. Oh drop happen That drop is insane. I don't even want if you haven't sat down just listen to call garros theme It has a drop in it that if you are a wind waker fan It's gonna drive you nuts like it just in pure bliss when they drop it So that was my that was my first boss fight major boss fight. No, it's like, oh, yeah This is when I when I got to that moment. I was like, oh, yeah It's the best game ever made like that like that was my thought when I got to that moment Yeah, it's like this is actually pretty good beat cool. I like it I like you it's kind of repetitive for a bit all of a sudden it just brings that drop and you're like What just happened? Well, the entire Dungeons music is good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's just that boss music just really caught me off-guard when they did that drop I was like no way they didn't just do that This literally is what I was live streaming guys I literally said this was my favorite moment in gaming ever in that moment the drop happens the fights going on I've been dreaming of soaring through the air to fight. Oh, man It was so good and I'm like, well, it's not even a hard boss fight, but it didn't matter. It was so fun Can I ask you how you beat the boss fight? There's a right way in a wrong way There's a writer wrong ways in tears. No, there's a right way in a wrong way There is a way that's really freaking cool and there's a way that's kind of like yeah, that's that's what most people do He probably did this I go with part of the same when he arrows and break the shit. What are we talking about? Yeah I Thought was really cool in tears of the kingdom is the side again No, it was with a side quest with musicians and how once you're all done the full band is together every time you go to a certain location That was a really cool thing. Yep Nice We had a $2 one come in just sort of a statement than a question. I want to see a square remake chrono trigger I think it's gonna happen. I think I don't see that happen someday. Like I don't know. It's shocking. It hasn't happened Yeah, they really just announced I think this month that they're gonna be paying attention to a lot of their Orman IPs to try to bring in this is What crown triggers why are they considered by many to be one of the best j-refugees ever the fact that hasn't been remade at this point baffling Even like an HP 2d with that being If they wait till after a Super Mario RPG comes out they can kind of use that to build up hype for chrono trigger I mean they came out. I mean very close. They're very similar We just got see a star as it's supposed to be like a spiritual successor to it. Yeah, I started that I have put it down. It's loaded on my switch and I'm just Keep watching suits instead Five dollar one coming in so I got another shot to do here from J2 blue in the sky saying favorite box arts for games on switch The top of that doesn't come up often. I have the correct answer for this and I would like to see anybody prove me wrong I want to show these super Smash Bros. Ultimate just hands down If you just look at the box art It's just Nintendo and all of its history at its finest And they all look like they're included DLC characters. That's my counter argument. Well, but what does you know what I mean? Like I know until Nintendo makes that it's not gonna. I know I think I think With the ultimate edition as in yeah true since you're Smash Bros. Ultimate Yeah, I mean deluxe edition. Yeah, I can't Yeah, it includes you includes like five more characters as well. Oh, yeah, that'd be cool I Think that that's my favorite. It's a top switch box art I think Jason wanted to go literally grab it and show it I think this is where I exposed myself because I've downloaded too many of my switch games I'm trying to think Having a hard time thinking yeah, I'm not good at it. Yeah, I'm not good at thinking Oh Man, so I keep thinking of all the box arts because I don't all my physical collection is gone now I'll leave that because of 2019. So I'm like trying to think what's my favorite There's there's some that popped the pop into my mind Let's see here boxers to which games I'm trying to remember exactly which one I'm thinking of So just give me a second. I feel like I'm looking at it and Link's Awakening looks pretty crispy too. Yeah Wasn't that was nice? Yeah One was really nice. You know what what what to me and maybe this is just the nostalgia talking I really love the Metroid Dread Box. Oh, yeah, that's the Metroid Dread box art is so good But I know there's nostalgia kick with that same Metroid Dread But dude, I'm gonna show I'm gonna try to show that box art actually right now Um Anyone who maybe hasn't played it Haven't played it with wrong with you That's neat Dread amazing. Oh, that's yeah Yeah, so let's see This is the regular I knew it was gonna go to the others But it's reversible so I have it flipped out. So it's like the Awesome, that's not that's not usual. So that's keeping it clean boys. It is asking the clean. All right, I Got mine is Blank That No, I'm just rolling. Okay. Hey, some people like super super simple So, you know, yeah, if you're into like the minimalist style that probably is the best. Yeah, and then this which box art It's pretty good or any game stop case. That's a replacement As the title you're good to go Anyways, I do think I would say it's the best but they Know it's a pretty good one. That's a good job Yeah, I will also I'm breath of the wilds like this just feels Yeah, yeah, I just don't count it Right. Why don't you count it? It literally would have been my number one. I don't count it because I view it as a Wii U game Again box art I only count the outside. I know it's a very good I know oh by the way, I think because I have this back this shows that I got it and that's a collector edition version Yeah, that is collectors addition only without Let's see I'm I'm I like Luigi's man can't believe Choose in a blade chronicles to Luigi mansion three. Hmm. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good boxer, too Oh, yeah, the nobody twos is pretty sick. Nope. You're already You're already you're showing yours. I'm just showing the inside art Maybe I'm thinking of the the special edition because I thought One right and three I gotta Not sure. Oh, I have this one's neat. I it's just kind of cool because so higher where it's a bit of addition, right has a map I think That's kind of cool that is cool nice nice nice Yeah, Paul gave never wanted to give his top five quick He used his member chap to do it breath of the wild at one Ocarina of time at two Super Mario 64 3 Street Fighter 2 at number 4 Metroid Prime at number 5 and then he had to have honorable mentions tears of the Kingdom Super Mario World Resident Evil 4 deserve top spot Mario Mario World that that can now that's another game that yeah Oh man, so good. That's a good list promise as more games comes out It just becomes increasingly more and more unfair to have a top five It's a solid argument. I Feel like we should just talk about like it's easier to talk about top fives for per system Yeah, that I agree to that that does even then there's even that is so hard though Especially whenever we're like in the switch era, you know It's what you're still ongoing, but like yeah, I think Metroid Dread. I don't know even then it's tough. You should do it per genre persistence Oh, here we go. Here we go Alright, I think I've been a regular to clear is like four genres. Oh, yeah All right. Well, it's gonna wrap up our show this week That was episode 39 of the Nintendo Prime podcast season two. I mean next week episode 40. Dang does that even matter? 40 a number we celebrate the podcast will become a man. I don't even it's for you said the numbers Yeah, I know like the numbers shouldn't matter But that's anniversary. So it's different. So then we're okay. What I mean ages just a number Let me know when we get to 69. Okay, so I You know like I'm 37 but I'm actually probably more like 17. That's why I don't keep it clean a Problem too young to keep Anyways Thank you guys so much for tuning in. Let's go around the room tell people who are who you are where they can find you and what you Got going on We'll start with Jake Randall find the use in his name. I got rid of the two Well, there's my stage name. My real name is two inch destroyer Also known as keeping it clean guy and I just want to say keep it clean boys keep it clean There was mr. Clean over there and also that two inches are more than enough and you can find them at Jake Randall on Only fans Just go with just two inch. Oh, maybe it's already taken I'll just restart we got going on. We're gonna find you Andre's restart research that you'll find my YouTube channel. You'll see Nintendo videos every day Yeah Eric, where can I find you right here and on Twitter? I'm gonna not call it that's X baby We don't meet anymore. We post. I don't give a shit. It's Twitter. We post and repost at emo 8790 you post and you watch X videos No, no, it's not actually Yeah, they copped out when they couldn't handle they couldn't handle the comparison. You know what handle the thing they bitched out Let's just be honest They had an awesome meme they could have ran with it for years they bitched out Sucks I don't know. I don't know if those sites bother to copyright or anything, but if they do they might be copyrighted Advertisers probably wouldn't like it. Yeah, they won't know. That's definitely true. I'm gonna run ads on X videos That's gonna look great on the balance sheet Some donation where you got going on work may find you yep sun donation on everything X YouTube primarily, but if you want to reach me honestly Formerly Twitter is where I'm hanging out the most As far as just ease of access but six videos per week. I sometimes seven it's rare And all Nintendo focus news stories and everything that's going on in gaming That's right. That's right, and I swear some bro and Andres give him a year Because of switch to they're gonna be bigger bigger than I am just hard cuz I'm three inches Really anything more than a few centimeters is probably more than you need but I mean I'd say like 1.25 inches is solid Whatever gets the job done they say the sizes of what matters Things like this and then you start to question yourself Anyways, all right guys, thank you so much for tuning in. I am Nathan Robodance from Nintendo Prime You can check out Nintendo Prime pretty much just type me type in Google a bunch of stuff will pop up Hopefully mostly good things. I don't know. There's probably some bad things out there, too There's the memes of me telling people to f off that happened during the live stream once it is what it is I am who I am. I'm out ashamed of it You guys can also get the audio version of this podcast everywhere podcasts are heard Officially beginning the day after because finally I'll pay the bill on the damn audio version So we can actually get like five episodes up rapid fire Sorry, I let that bill lapse and I didn't pay any attention to it And then I every time I go to upload I'm like, oh, I probably should pay that and that day I just happen to not have the money in the bank every time I remembered to check I don't know what's wrong with me I probably should just prepay for a year and be done with it, but you know what You're not rich. That's not my style. I'm a youtuber I ain't rich and the fact that I couldn't come up with 14 bucks out of nowhere means I've definitely not rich So I know you're in the top like half percent. Yeah, what is the word? What's the hundred K percent? I'm technically even higher cuz I'm 131 and then no Jake over there. He's just Look top top. You might push them over Or Possibly because he's already known. He's known as the man to go to if you want to get pre-orders I mean I've known NBC twice once for the today's show and once for this NBC tonight I'm here for prime time right now. I'm here for Nintendo Prime over a hundred thousand is 99.7 What's the I'm gonna get he's like 175 or something on summer one I remember when I took those tests back in elementary school and they told me I was in the top 1% Last can't get no more is 99.97% 99.97 well, none of us are at a mill so So thanks for the irrelevant you know, that was that really meant a lot It's in between there it's in between point zero three percent and three percent Somewhere in there He said he said point nine seven Zero three zero three and he said and he said I'm three. Oh, we're 100k technically. I'm higher than 100k So I'm even higher than three percent. Anyway, it doesn't really matter What matters is do you love your life and I do thank you guys for tuning in We'll catch you guys in the next podcast next week. Bye