 with the idea that, you know, occasionally, we'll just do that one instead. All right, we're live. Well, hello, everyone, and welcome to our video. I'm gonna start. Don't let me forget the Twitch. Twitch, don't forget the Twitch. Don't forget to stop it, too. Yeah, no, exactly. That's what I'm asking, in particular. And if it continues, you should probably see a doctor. If your Twitch live stream lasts more than three hours. I'm twitching and I can't stand banned. Okay. Thank you, Big Jim. Step into a big gym. He's a big guy. I don't know if I'd snap into him. Okay. Yeah, I feel like if you call yourself big, somebody, you're either really big or really small. Yeah, and we can't be like an average height. I've met him a couple of times. He's not like a giant. Is he not proportionally? No, he's just a big guy. He's, you know, he's a big gym. Yeah, that's his nick. Just keep him consistent. Yeah. He's not like sideshow big, just like sideshow big. He's not, you know, Big Jim's like, I is fat. I don't think you're fat. You're not fat. He's just big. It goes. I wish that term would return because it would be used to buy clothes for kids. All right, here we go. Ready? Three, two. Do you like listening to advertisements? Me neither. Want to help and support creators directly? Then head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support and help us reach our new milestone today. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, January 22, 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane. And I'm Veronica Belmont in an echoey conference room in San Francisco. San Francisco, San Francisco. Also joining us, Roger Chang, here to produce the hell out of this show. Produce the heck out of it. OK, see? Already doing his job. Yeah, earning his paycheck. Coming in a little hot for a Monday, don't you think? Yeah, I know. I don't know why. Usually I'm Garfield about Mondays, but today I'm OPI. Are you normal? Can I be normal about Mondays? Yes, yes, please. So much. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Facebook will use information gathered from its ongoing quality surveys to determine which news sources people generally trust the most versus not trust. The company also made three posts Monday sharing its findings and how social media affects government, including one by Cass R. Sunstein, a professor at Harvard Law School, that argues Facebook increases political divisions. Hard to argue about that. At the Bet Education Show in London, Microsoft announced new Windows 10 and Windows 10 S devices with the cheapest being Lenovo's $189 100E laptop. Microsoft is also partnering with the BBC, Lego, NASA, PBS, and publisher Pearson to bring mixed reality and video to schools. Microsoft also plans to add a free chemistry update for Minecraft Education Edition this spring. Intel Executive Vice President Neil Chenoy advises users to skip its last round of Spectre meltdown patches entirely to avoid those reboot problems. Maybe he heard Linus Torvalds call it utter and complete garbage. Was it utter and complete or complete nutter? I don't remember. The issue has been identified for Broadwell and Haswell processors and a new update is on the way for them until says it's actively working on solutions for the rest of its affected processors. And this just in slightly before we started recording today, Netflix reported its Q4 numbers earning 41 cents a share on revenue of $29 billion. Essentially meeting analysts' expectations. Good for you, Netflix. The company added 1.98 million subscribers in the US and 6.36 million subscribers internationally. All of those numbers sound sort of like gobbledygook. Think of it this way. Netflix is now worth more than $100 billion. Woo! I mean, if you're a stockholder. Yeah, that may not be to me. All right, we got some more top stories. What do we got, Veronica? Nokia is removing the pulse wave velocity feature from its body cardio scale as of January 24th. The feature essentially measures how fast your blood flows as an indicator of arterial stiffness. Nokia has not said why, but the scale is classified as a wellness device which is prohibited from making medical claims by the US FDA. Nokia is offering $30 coupons or a full refund for existing body cardio scale owners. This is where we are with health and wellness gadgets. We haven't got into the rhythm of what's allowed and what isn't. Right. I think that something that just tells you like, hey, this is your pulse wave velocity. We're not telling you what it means that that would be okay. And I'm sure that's what Nokia thought. But the FDA may have, we don't really know why they removed it. Nokia isn't saying, but the best guess is that the FDA said, that's medical claim, can't do that. Well, even if you add a disclaimer, you know, you see that all the time. You know, this product is not meant to replace a doctor. It's purely for entertainment purposes, even if it actually does help somebody. Or even if this is just data, talk to your doctor about it. It's not definitive either way, but it's just, I don't understand why more information is bad. Yeah. And maybe there's some health professionals or doctors out there in the audience that can explain, maybe there's something about pulse wave velocity that is diagnostic in and of itself, right? I suppose I could see that, but it does feel like, what was it the way they were presenting it or was it claims they made about it in the software? That seems like it should be easily fixed rather than having to pull it entirely. And they've paused selling the scale while they go and reflash everything so they're not sold with this. Yeah, it's a big deal. Yeah. I mean, it could also have something to do with the fact that it's not accurate. And Nokia has some reason to believe that they could be misleading the public. Sure. That is, I hadn't even, that seems obvious. Now you say it, right? Yeah, it could just be wrong. Like their software could be off and that would be bad. I don't know. I do know arterial stiffness is my heart cover band. Sweet. What? I'm, forgive me. What is arterial stiffness? What is that? It's my heart cover band. No. It's arteries? Yeah, it's whether your arteries are stiff or not. You know, if they're impeding the speed of the blood flow. So it's not your heart rate. It's like, oh, blood. According to News Medical, arterial stiffness indicates two major terms, arteriosclerosis and a thermomatosis. These are also combined, often combined to a theriosclerosis. A theriosclerosis is a generalized thickening and stiffening of the arterial wall and is related to high blood pressure or hypertension. Got it. Okay, so this is the thing that you don't want. Definitely not. And yeah, well, maybe Nokia can, you know, get his act together and help us all be more healthy. We don't know what's going on, but interesting nonetheless. What we do know is what's going on is Amazon Go, a new convenient store with no checkout clerks opening for the public on the ground floor of Amazon 7th Avenue building in Seattle today. So as a shopper, you need the Amazon Go app and then there's a QR code that you scan to enter the store and then they know who you are and what you're doing. From there, cameras and then a machine learning system tracks you, automatically adds or subtracts items from your bill as you pick something up or put it back and then automatically charges you when you leave. Amazon has no plans to expand the technology outside the test store, at least for now. Lots of discussion, at least, you know, in my friend group about people saying, oh, well, that's the end of people having retail jobs. You know, this is why malls are closing. This is, you know, why, you know, the retail experience is gonna change and people are gonna lose a lot of jobs Tom, you kind of set me straight earlier in the show. You were like, well, the store is full of people who work in the store. Yeah, I mean, you see a lot of articles talking about this is a store without people and that's like very misleading. Yeah, there are no checkout clerks, but anybody who's worked at a grocery store knows that the checkout clerks do way more than just stand there and check you out. That's just part of their shift. And of course stores have been putting those vaguely irritating self checkout lanes in already. So I don't know that this gets rid of a lot of jobs or not. What it does is it frees people up to do other things and even in the Amazon Go Store, you have people just kind of monitoring security. You have people checking IDs for alcohol purchases, which is legally required. You have people cooking the food. A lot of this food is fresh made. So there's people back in the kitchen doing stuff and they're stocking the shelves. Although theoretically, I guess Amazon could get its robots to do that in the future. So... And there's also people who are helping with tech support because there's still things that are going wrong from time to time. The way I think about this now, at least for the short term, is if you look at an Apple store, for example, I mean, technically a lot of the products that you can purchase at an Apple store, you're allowed to check out using the Apple app and you just walk out of the store. It's not nearly as advanced as the, you know, the computer vision that Amazon is using, but at the same time there's still gonna be people to help you find stuff. And like you said to check IDs for alcohol purchases and so there's still stuff that they're gonna need people for, at least for the near to medium term, I would say. The grocery store that I go to most often is Whole Foods, which is of course now owned by Amazon. And depending on the day and the time of day, it's not always a nightmare, but sometimes just getting through the checkout process is the nightmare. Putting stuff in my cart or my basket or whatever, that's easy, I know what I want. And then I gotta figure out what line is the, you know, that is gonna go as quickly as possible. So in that sense, hey, if you're just really trying to relieve people of the bottlenecking that makes grocery shopping sucky, great, love it. There are other questions I have though. So if I'm walking around a store and sometimes, you know, we're all in a zone and you kind of pick up stuff and you look at it, you put it back and you just, who cares, right? This is your life that you're living. Well, if Amazon has a lot of information about stuff that like I seemed like I was about to buy, but then I didn't, that's stuff that sure would also apply if I was shopping on amazon.com, you know, that was in my cart and then not. But that stuff kind of follows you around too. So it does change a little bit of the kind of data that a company would have on physical retail buying habits. Oh yeah. And I don't know what that means. Like I'm not saying that's bad, but it's different. Well, there's two things, right? In aggregate, which doesn't bother me as much, they're going to know a lot more about what makes people purchase something and what doesn't. Like why do they put it back? Oh, if it was on shelf three, we saw exactly how many people put it back whereas we moved it up to shelf two and they put it right in their cart, whatever. Then there's the individual stuff that you're talking about where, you know, you buy a jar of peanut butter and then for the next week, everywhere you go online, they're like, hey, we know you like peanut butter. Here's peanut butter related items. What do you might want to buy? Well, imagine a grocery store clerk following you around, you know, kind of just like watching what you're doing. Like that would be super weird, right? Like if you want help, you'll ask somebody for help. Hopefully he'll, you know, be around. So it's, again, it's like, this seems like a really efficient way that grocery and retail shopping in general will go. And certainly the US is not at the forefront of this in certain other countries. They're way ahead of us in this sense. And I know a lot of people listening or watching are probably gonna write in and be like, here's my experience. You guys don't even know what's going on. Yeah, yeah. Actually, let me jump in on that point because I was gonna make this point earlier. We'd spent an entire year talking about all the different alternatives because Amazon announced this December, 2015. They were supposed to open it up to the public last year. It took a year because they were trying to get some of the kinks worked out, although that's not what Amazon says. They found it to be more popular with its employees than they expected. So they didn't need to open it to the public, but whatever. We have talked on the show before about lots of different alternatives to this, but very few of them do exactly what Amazon's doing where they don't require you to scan anything or use a special card or anything like that. Yeah, it really, I loved the comparison that the New York Times made to shoplifting because apparently it feels just like shoplifting in a lot of ways. And I had that same kind of sensation scanning things in the Apple store and using that system, but not even having to scan anything and just being able to drop it in the bag that I'm using for all my shopping and walk out with it is pretty amazing. Yeah. There was that song called Shoplifters of the World Unite. Yes. Yeah, nothing to lose. Is that am I right? I was like, is that a song? I think it is. I just remember that ad. There was that ad where it showed the shoplifter going through and putting stuff in his coat and then he walked out and the cop stops him and is like, you forgot your receipt. It's from the Smiths. Yeah, it's the Smiths. That's what I was gonna say. Do that. Montana Governor Steve Bullock signed an executive order Monday requiring ISPs with state contracts to abide by net neutrality rules starting July 1st. Now, the US FCC obviously has voted to adopt rules that prevent states from creating local laws like this that supersede the federal ones for consumers, although those rules have yet to take effect. So this wouldn't be prohibited yet because the FCC rules haven't been published in the federal register. Those of you who are like, ah, net neutrality is gone. Well, it's not. We're still under the old rules until this gets published in the federal register, which will probably happen soon, but hasn't. Even when it does though, what Montana's governor did was not change the consumer rules, which is pretty much what the FCC rules prevent. Now, there's a whole question about whether the FCC can prevent states from doing that, but Montana doesn't seem to be even bothering with that. They said, all we're doing is saying, if you wanna win a contract with the state of Montana, you have to abide by these rules. And of course, all the ISPs, AT&T, Comcast, et cetera, that operate in Montana, all the big ones anyway, have contracts with the state of Montana. So Montana's not saying you can't do paid prioritization or throttling. They're saying you can do that, do it all day long to the citizens of Montana. But if you do, you lose your government contract with the state of Montana. Snap. But it's kind of like what the government does with highway funding, right? We're like, well, we can't tell the state not to do something but we'll pull their highway funding if they do. And, okay. It's clever, right? It's trying to get around the FCC prohibition without having to go to court. And plenty of people are gonna go to court over those FCC open internet guidelines anyway. But I'll be curious to see if other states attempt what Montana is doing. What are the contracts with the states like? Does that mean only state agencies are affected? Or, I mean, how does this help consumers at all? Does it, like, is it twisting the ISPs arm in a way that could eventually help consumers? I just don't really know what effect it would have. Well, yeah. So let's say AT&T has a contract to provide the internet service for the capital building at Montana. I don't know if they do, but let's just pretend they do. What Montana is saying is, great. You can't engage in any paid prioritization or throttling as part of your business plan. Which means that if you're a consumer of AT&T in Montana, you would not be subject to that. Or AT&T loses the contract with the state. Okay, okay. So they can't just, like, change how they're bringing the broadband into specific places. No, it doesn't seem like they can be like, well, we're not doing paid prioritization to the state. So that's fine. I don't think they can do it that way. Okay. That's a good question, though. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if other states adopt this tactic, and I know it varies state by state, but good on you, Montana. Clever stuff. Uber Eats has acquired a company called Ando, the delivery-only restaurant founded by Momo Fukushev, David Chang. Ando will shut down its New York service and integrate with Uber Eats. Ando had focused on developing food and packaging suited well to delivery, because there wasn't anywhere to go except delivery. Wow. Yeah, that's cool. Okay, so this is, I've been talking with some friends about, because I have an Uber Eats addiction because I'm, you know, one part lazy and two parts, I don't know, I like apps to bring me my food. And I use it a lot, and there's some really great places in my neck of the woods that have stuff that's like, it's not really that much more expensive, even if you add the delivery fee. And a lot of restaurants to just exist as delivery restaurants. I mean, there's a particular ramen place that I order from all the time. I have been there. You can go there and sit down and order ramen, but I never do. I mean, of the 100 times I've eaten ramen, it's like, it's just delivery. It wouldn't matter if that physical location went away. And I think a lot of restaurants, particularly if you can streamline the process to just be like, all we're doing is delivery. We don't have to host anybody. We don't have to clean the floors. We don't have to have signage. All of that stuff goes away. I think we're gonna see a lot more of this. A restaurant in, there was this restaurant space near where I used to live in the mission that was like, I don't know if it was cursed or haunted or what, but all these great restaurants moved into this spot and they could not stay open. And I'm not sure if it was because the dining room was too big or if it was like that specific block, but it just didn't work. And so this really popular Indian restaurant that had done really well in New York moved in and they actually are gonna be closing and going to delivery only because they found a place that they could open a kitchen where they could make all the same food but don't have to pay the high rent and don't have to pay the servers or the bartenders or, and so they're gonna be able to still deliver the food but they don't have to keep the restaurant space open anymore. There's a cheeseburger place that we've ordered Postmates from, supposedly near our house that we cannot find because we're like, oh, we should go there. And we're like, you drive to that part and it's like apartment blocks and a Jewish temple. And I'm like, maybe they're operating in the Jewish temple but I doubt it. Like there's no signage for it even then. And the temple has its own coffees place, right? So you'd think if they had a cheeseburger place they'd have that sign right up there in the coffee place, right? So I wonder if that's another example of this. It makes, it makes the economics make sense in a lot of ways. It depends on the cuisine, right? It's like, there's certain cuisines that people tend to order pizza, Indian food. At least I'm talking about myself, ramen. But, you know, in Momofuku for anybody who's not familiar with it, that's like a really, really well-respected noodle house. David Chang's big deal. Yeah. Before we move on, I really wanna emphasize that I love this idea of making the food that does well in transport too, rather than just taking whatever the restaurant makes. And sometimes, you know, sushi, sushi doesn't really feel right in delivery. Travel quite well. Yeah, exactly. So that is fascinating too, where it's like, no, we're gonna make food and put it in packaging that makes it taste really good being delivered. Well, changing gears a bit, a report from US childcare professionals has reached a similar conclusion to British academics that parents should not limit children's screen time. Instead, parents should guide that time to be used actively in creative activities rather than passive viewing. Ta-da. I'm curious what Roger thinks of this, because he is the only one of us who has a child that uses a tablet. And the conventional wisdom has been limit one to two hours per day. And what both of these organizations are saying now is that's not the right way to approach it. It's not that you shouldn't limit one to two hours a day if it's video watching, because they are saying limit passive watching. It's that just saying one to two hours of screen time is overly simplistic. I say yes. It's one of those situations where, you know, if you give the child something to watch, as long as they're not being, you know, a screen potato or I don't know what you call them, screen squash or something. An eye potato. Yeah, an eye potato. I totally see what they're getting at. Like, Ellie watches things on the tablet, like, you know, YouTube videos or whatever. And she'll try to replicate. So she'll move away from the screen and like, if they're doing something, she'll try to copy it. If it's music, all she does is dance. Like, literally all she does is dance. So she's definitely getting exercise. Really what I try to make sure she's not staring at the screen, you know, continuously for more than like 10 or 15 minutes, right? Like she is moving her head. She's looking at different things. She's moving around, you know, and really it's ensuring that they don't get stuck into a habit of just kind of use it as kind of a pacifier. Where it's like, you know, you pipe down, here's a tablet. I mean, they do it for trips. I was gonna say, there's always a moment that every parent knows where they're like, I'm just gonna use it as a pacifier even though I know I shouldn't. You try to limit those situations. You try to limit those situations. And if I do so, you make it special. I think that's important too, is by like limiting those moments when you're out to dinner with your friends and the kid is with you, like now is the time to present the iPad as a special thing you can do for the next half an hour while the grown-ups talk and drink. Fortunately, she's rapidly aging and things like that don't really stick. Like she's, it's funny cause she gets bored now with just looking at a screen. She'll like, just get up and just walk away. Cause it's like, I've seen, I mean, cause she chooses the videos, like I've seen this before. I don't need to see it again. The interactivity I could see, it's obviously, it's gonna stimulate a part of your brain that passive viewing wouldn't, but it also really just varies by content. I mean, back in the day, you know, I learned lots of things from Sesame Street, right? Even though I was probably sitting there silently most of the time, but I was at a party over the weekend and somebody had set up like a TV in the backyard for some kids. I don't know why, but they had like an old Nintendo where somebody was playing for Super Mario Brothers, you know? And we're watching it and we're like, what is this game? Like this, I mean, it was many, many, many, many hours of my time after school for years. You know, I don't know what's teaching you necessarily, but it's certainly interactive. Oh, hand-eye coordination, I guess. I guess, yeah. I think Sesame Street probably taught me more than that, but. It's interesting you're bringing up the Nintendo aspect because that's why I'm so fascinated with Labo, right? Is that what you pronounce, Labo? Yep. Yeah, Habo. The little cardboard accessories for the Nintendo Switch because if you can use the screen but not make it the main focal point, but rather like a portion of it to kind of enrich whatever their play experience, that's great, right? Like if it's not just you interface with the screen, that's it. It's like, oh, you used the screen as part of it, but it's not the only thing. I'm totally excited because it allows me to give my kids something that they can play with, not feel bad about having them play with it. And, you know, and be generally assured that something there's happening that I hope is positive, you know, toward their development. You know, she, you know, like with Sesame Street, she, her alphabet and counting skills are both school and video based. So she sings it like they do in the videos, but, you know, it's reinforced in school. And it's very interesting to see that kind of interplay because, you know, growing up I had a TV and it's not like you drag a TV with you everywhere. Yeah. Are you worried about the Labo cardboard being too flimsy? I, you know, the thing is she plays with so many cardboard boxes and they hold up pretty well because we get a lot of stuff from Amazon and she's always sitting in it. Wait, your child is a cat? Ha, ha, ha, ha. There's Jen, my wife, who used to have three cats. There's a lot of similarities. And it's very interesting because in my, on the face of it, cardboard doesn't seem that strong, but if you fold it in a specific way, it's actually incredibly strong. And if you look at the way the Labo, at least from what I can tell the way they've designed it, they look pretty sturdy. Now that's not to say if you spill water on it, it turns, it won't turn into mush. Yeah. It is cardboard after all. Yeah. Science reports, and by science I mean the publication, not just science, science. Science says. Science reports that scientists at the University of Glasgow have created a process that can produce pharmaceuticals using a $2,000 off-the-shelf 3D printer. Four different vessels carry out chemical reactions in 12 steps like evaporation and filtering. Now, these are things that, these reaction vessels are things that you could probably use on your own, but what this does is coordinate it and make it really efficient if I'm understanding it right. Chemicals are kept in self-contained cartridges as well, so you don't have to come in contact with them. That's a little safer. Researchers were able to create a muscle relaxant called baclofen, an anticonvulsant, and an ulcer drug in their tests. And it seems like this is one of those research papers where they're like, yeah, this is pretty much ready. Like, you can make this right now. So it's all about the regulations and the abuse prevention before we bring this thing to market. Yeah, I mean, my first reaction is like meth labs. Well, that gets easier, but it's clearly for people who could use a drug and could get it more cheaply, not necessarily that the regulations are gonna allow anybody to be doing this in their own houses, but just the fact that it simplifies the process when the drug is necessary and helpful, really cool. Any advancement in medicine is going to get misused by somebody. Like that's just a given from the beginning. The positive side of this is places that can't afford medications might be able to afford to make them. You could make medications on site in certain situations because you could bring in these materials and then manufacture them very, very affordably. So there are huge upsides to this as well, but that's why they're like, yeah, we could totally do this. We're not sure how we do it right. So we limit the abuse of it, but yeah, this is a pretty big deal. That's, I think that's, it's super cool that we have this technology or that we're starting to create this technology just because especially medicine is so unbelievably expensive. And like, I can't, yeah, I don't even wanna get on a rant about that right now, but where you could make it more easily would be really nice for a lot of people. Well, and it'd be interesting, like I don't, I also don't know enough about margins when it comes to a company that would supply a certain chemical to a big pharma company where then they would put it all together and then sell it to us for some catastrophic amount. I don't know enough about that to know what the margins are like, but I have to assume they're pretty high and that's why pharmaceutical companies make so much money. So if for some reason, you know, let's say you're one of these companies that provides a chemical to Pfizer, right? I'm just throwing Pfizer out there because it came to mind. If you could sell more of this chemical by being able to sell direct to consumers somehow, again regulations, very gray area, that first company might actually be better off. Yeah. I don't know. It's gonna be an intellectual property situation, right? Where the pharmaceutical companies are gonna bring out that old refrain of we spent all this money researching and making this so we have to make our money back and it would be DRM patterns that you download for the 3D printer that you would be paying the pharmaceutical company for while you're going directly to the manufacturer of the chemicals themselves for that. Let us make our drugs. Hey folks, if you wanna get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to Daily Tech Headlines. Available on the Amazon Echo, on the Google Home, on the Anchor app, and of course as a podcast at DailyTechHeadlines.com. You know what I'd like to do? Check in with Chris Christensen for some travel tech info. This is Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler with another Tech In Travel Minute. I have an interesting story today about a now defunct startup called SWMonkey.com. In the United States there's an airline called Southwest Airline. Many of you will know that airline. And one of the things that consumers like about Southwest is that they have no change fee so that when you book a ticket and you decide you can't make it, you can easily trade that in for a credit for a later flight. And that's good, but there was a website that was created, a small startup called SWMonkey.com that what they were gonna do is give you an alert when your ticket price dropped because then you could change in that ticket for the lower price ticket without incurring a change fee. You can imagine that Southwest did not like that. They were also gonna charge you a small fee to give you that alert, to basically set up that alert. And Southwest has sued them out of business shortly after they got started. And this was not a big startup. I think the company made $45 before they went out of business. They say they're going to spend the money going out to dinner probably. But Southwest, while I like them as a consumer in that way, the one thing I don't like about them is they don't allow their prices to show up anywhere else on the internet other than their website. If you go to Expedia or Kayak or any of the other booking sites, you'll notice you don't see Southwest prices. And so it's interesting, I guess that is the reason that they charge this company with computer fraud and trademark abuse and several other things and sued them out of business. I thought it was an interesting model. There's a couple of things like it on the internet, for instance, in the hotelspacetingo.com by TripAdvisor will automatically rebook your hotel because many hotels also don't have a change fee for canceling one reservation and creating another one. So if you're going to reserve a hotel for a year out when you're going to pay a premium, you go through Tingo and if the price drops, which it probably will, then they'll rebook it. But not apparently with Southwest. That is not something they're going to let happen. I'm Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler. Yeah, Southwest. TripIt has a fair protection thing like SW Monkey had, but it only works with airlines that let them read their reservation systems and Southwest stops that. So I guess what SW Monkey did was get around the terms of service somehow and start reading things that they weren't allowed to. It's too bad. That's cool. Yeah, I haven't tried any of those kinds of things before. All right, let's check the mail bag. What do we have in there, Sarah? Well, we've got an email from Eric, who's writing from Sweden, who says, great show, thank you, Eric. I was wondering how the show is made behind the scenes. From what I understand, you do almost no post-processing before publishing, right? For instance, it seems like you're adding sound effects live and if so, how are you doing that? Do you use special software or hardware? How do you make it happen? Well, without trying to trigger one of those sound effects on the video, I'll hold up the iPad that I use particularly for the sound effects. I use the Boss Jock app and I'm able to play them as they go into a mixer. It's a ProFX 8 mixer. If you kind of wanna see how this all works from the technical end, we have a video up at youtube.com slash Daily Tech News Show. It's a couple of years old now. It's from 2016 and it shows the process I would go through then. Of course, it was before we had Sarah on every day. It was before Daily Tech headlines existed. The process has changed a little bit, but it does give you a view of how I put together everything. Wow, it's even from before I was wearing glasses, so kind of old. We should do another one of those soon. Hope that answers some of your questions, Eric. Also, I know Tom and I have talked a little bit about our processes for Daily Tech headlines. This show is, I mean, we've kind of got it down at this point, but we do things differently. We achieve more or less the same result, but it's not at one size fits all type thing. Yeah, and if you're backing us on Patreon at the co-executive producer level, we do a bonus show where we've decided to kind of lean into behind the scenes stuff. So we'll talk about more of this kind of thing on there. Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com and facebook.com slash groups slash Daily Tech News Show. And thanks to Veronica Belmont for a show of 2018. 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The top is AmazonGo is checking you out. Nice. The iPotato. Yes. Clerks, Amazon doesn't need you, Dante and Randall. Was it Dante? I guess it was Dante and Randall. All right, I just assumed it was right. I don't remember. Randall, I remember Randall, I don't remember. AmazonGo skips the clerks because it was straight to Jay and Silent Bob. Particularly the Silent Bob. I get that, yeah. AmazonGo in real life. AmazonGo, that feeling you get when shoplifting. Whereas we used to call it the five-finger discount. AmazonGone. Oh, I like that one. AmazonGo shoplifting. DIY drugs, DIY pharmacy. DIY Walter White Edition. Until gotten a loop on the pulse of health claims. Cashless to cashierless. Your child is a cat. Science says, freaking bad in 3D. Veronica is normal. Science says, make your own drugs. I can totally see a lot of self-medication with that. AmazonGo is checking you out or an iPotato are at the top. But what do you like, Roger? What do you think is the best one? I like AmazonGo is checking you out. I don't know why, I like the phrase checking you out. Sounds good to me. Do we have an accord? No, I have a Camry. Are we, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's a switch. Oh, Sarah's being awfully quiet. I'm sorry. Hold on. You guys were doing so well without me. And we've all agreed that AmazonGo is checking you out. It should be the title. I just wanted to make sure that you heard your voice. Yeah, it's fine. Thank you, though. In Soviet Russia, AmazonGo checks you out. I, not that I'm complaining about having freelance work, but there's certain people that I work with and won't name names that just be real. No, no, not you, definitely not you, not any of you. But it's like, even though, you know, I've said so many times, like just so you know, between, let's call it 1130 and 230, I'm invisible, right? Like, it will be very hard for me to get back to you unless it's an emergency, whatever, you know, and then it still happens. So that's what I was doing. I have people who are on the show. Some people don't listen. I'm not going to name names, but I'll say there are people who are on the show. So they obviously know what it is who will text message me during the show, not the one they're on, but like on a different day. And I'm like, dude, I'm like, I don't do that. I don't do that anymore. It's not Veronica, everyone. It's not Veronica, not me. Definitely not me. I don't know what you're talking about. When did I text you? I don't know. It's I don't want to name names. It's you're literally talking about me, but I don't literally all of you. To be honest, I'm trying to think if there's anyone who hasn't done it. He's hedging. I've never tested you during a show. No, because you're always here. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Lies, slander. I don't. Yeah. No, I think you've all done it. I really do. Slander. Slander. Well, Harris did it the other day, and then we plugged his thing. So there you go. But I didn't name any names. Well, you just put one name out there, right? I did not. I didn't put any names out there. There's a line to go into the Amazon Go store. Oh, really? A store without the post ever waiting line. I was going to say, like, who's minding the line to keep people from, like, who's. Oh, definitely. Amazon employees are wearing that. Yeah. You know what? What's going to happen is one of these days, just going to be a rowdy bunch of people who are way too happy from New Year's Eve or something. They're just going to, like, en masse, flash mob that store and take everything. Well, but that can do that to a regular convenience store. That's not a failure of Amazon Go's technology in that case. Oh, no. I'm not saying it's a failure. I'm just saying that they'll need to update it to take account. Well, but they can do that to a 7-Eleven right now. You only got, like, two employees in there. It depends on the employee behind the counter. Well, then the same would go for Amazon Go. They have employees on site. It's not like the place doesn't have any people in it. All right. It's a free-for-all. I gotta get back to work. All right. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Thank you. See you next week. See you next week. I, with your permission, gentlemen and patrons and everyone, I could also do other things. All right. Yes. If you need to go next time. You know, I got a trap, like, or it's a travel week. And so, you know, I get all stressed about things. For some reason, I thought you were about to say, I have a trout on the line, like as a metaphor. I'm fishing in a pond, and it's become challenging. Like, you know, I got a trout on the line. I'm kind of busy here. I got a trout on the line. I don't even know if that's, I don't know what that means. But yes, no, go do things. I do kind of have a trout on the line, so to speak. I still don't. I don't know what I'm saying. Go enjoy your fish. I will. So, yes, just a reminder to everyone who likes to know our whereabouts. Tomorrow, doing the show as usual, I will be in San Francisco. And then Wednesday, Tom will, will, has the day off because he's busy doing stuff. I'm going to Patreon. I can say out loud. What I talk about there, I don't think I can talk about, but the idea is to give him some feedback. And who knows? Maybe you'll come back with some information that you can share. Yeah, totally. And if I can, I will. But Roger and Scott Johnson and I will hold down the fort. And it's going to be a great show. And I'll do my best to, well, I was going to say, I'd give you a shot of the Golden Gate Bridge, but that never really works every time I do that. So let's not get our hopes up. Maybe it'll be foggy and it'll look better. But yeah. And then that's it. And I don't know why I'm still talking. Because you wanted to make sure that we had given the best update possible. And now we have. So off you go. All right, guys. Great show today. See everybody soon. All right. Thanks, Sam. Thank you. Bye. And then there were two. So Roger's like, oh, Tom, I have to go too. Tom, my fetish. I need to go. With that be a reason, I guess it would. If you told me your fetish didn't you had to go? I'd probably be like, oh, okay. Go take care of it. Put Sam on it. Exactly. Put some ointment. Feel better. See, Mike. Thank you. W. Scott has won. Stop the twitch at a time that is appropriate. To stopping. Yeah. So I think I think we can we can end the live stream. Thanks everybody for watching. As Sarah said, she'll be in San Francisco tomorrow. I'll be gone Wednesday. And then we'll all be back in our normal places on Thursday. So talk to you then.