 I could take criticism. Like that was a valid point. What is up everybody? It's Chris from the Rewired Soul, joined by Dailey. Hi. Rewired, Wired Soldier. Yes, yes, yes. And yeah, we talk about the problem, focus on the solution. And yeah, so I'm in California right now. Dailey is actually from my hometown of Fresno, California. How do you like Fresno? It's all right. You can be honest. You know, you've got to deal with the cards that you're dealt, but California is nice. It's close to the mountains, close to the beach. So if you want to escape, you can pretty quickly. That's what I always tell people about Fresno. The best part about Fresno is that you can easily leave Fresno. Exactly. Like you got San Francisco right up there. You got Soquel down there. Yeah. So yeah, anyways, as I'm in California, I'm going to be doing collabs, you know, with other YouTubers. And something that I was thinking about is like, I want to, I wanted to grow because I'm trying to get everybody else to grow. So I decided, I'm like, Dailey, you live in Fresno too. Why don't you do a video with me? Because I want to do videos with other people and just ask them like about my channel, how I can improve if I'm a dick and I don't even realize it. So, so yeah. So, okay. So Dailey, so here's what I'm asking you to do. Yeah, be 100% honest with me. Totally. Don't worry about hurting my feelings. Got it. And I, I'm going to try my best to not get defensive because that is a flaw of mine. I admit to that. All right. I'll get defensive sometimes. Exactly. So, so yeah, but I don't know. Tell me about, tell me about as a, as a rewired soldier, you've been around the channel for a long time. So yeah, I've seen the channel quadruple in size since I've joined. So talk to me about that. Like, because one of the criticisms I get, especially from people who have been around for a long time, they've talked about how the channel has changed and all those things. And so like, when, when did you find the channel? I found the channel about the time that you were going through the Shane Jake series. And that's when, because I think I saw you in the Shane video where he did feature your clip. Okay. But I think I found and was recommended a video of yours a little bit before he used that. Oh, but it wasn't until I talked about Shane that you finally, finally clicked on it. Okay. So, okay. So what, what is your view of the channel been even during the Shane Dawson series? Because like one of the, I don't even like, see some things I don't even like calling criticisms. One of the complaints that I get is I cover the drama and everything like that, but you see like, and, and daily and I are going to do another video right after this. But like you have found what I'm trying to do with my channel, but like in your opinion, like, I'm not, yeah, let me ask you your opinion on this. In your opinion, why do people view my channel as a drama channel? Because you have clearly taken tools from the channel. Like one of the first conversations we had was you telling me like the things you were doing to work on yourself that you pulled from my videos. So like from your perspective, so I can better understand why do you think people perceive it that way? Yeah, I think it's so easy for people to see it as a drama channel. And I mean, even the people who are making videos on the rewired soul now, they're still like, he says it is an drama channel, but it's a drama channel. And I don't agree with that. I do think that it's a fine line. Yeah. And I think that's something that you know, you have to be careful with when you are talking about people's personal but public lives. Yeah. It's easy to get mistaken, especially when you haven't seen a variety of your videos. If you haven't watched multiple videos, I think people watch a small bit. They think they get an idea, especially if it's a high caliber YouTuber video that you're using as an example. I think people watch those. And then they think they have an idea. Yeah. And what am I, what are my biggest concerns? And this is why I've asked Daily to be 100% honest with me and hopefully she is. But anyways, I don't want to get stuck into a bubble, right? I don't want to be in my own bubble. Like something that I'll be, I haven't made this public yet, but all of you watching, let it be known. I haven't blocked anybody or deleted comments until the last week. Okay. And one of the reasons I haven't done this, there's two reasons. One of the reasons is I want to have you like edited what comments are acceptable like as far as language. See, that's, that's now, now I'm like trying to figure that out more too, you know, because one of the reasons I haven't blocked anybody or deleted comments is because I want to show people that you can take like this hatred and be fine, but it's gotten to a point where my channel's gotten so big where it gets too much. And if like I, so one of the type of people I've blocked is where I've noticed them comment on multiple videos just talking like that's it. I'm like, you're not bringing anything constructive. You are toxic. Get out of here. I'm setting a boundary, right? But my fear is if I do that, I'm going to put myself in this bubble where all I have are people telling me kind things and you know what I mean? So, but like you were talking about like, now I have this whole new thing where I'm like, where do I draw that line? So let me ask this. Who do you think, like in what scenarios do you think it's okay to block somebody and then another one? Because I don't want to be looked at as the guy like, oh, he just deletes all negative comments. Yeah. You know? So what, what would your suggestion be on that? On how I could, like you're, you're an avid viewer. So tell me as a YouTuber what you think is fair in that situation. Something that I think is really important that I hope, and I mean, I'm going to tell you this and I hope that just the channel continues in this kind of direction is that you're an educator. You put out these videos to inform people, to help people to share your experience. And so a lot of your viewership is going to be people who are continuing to learn. And so you're going to get viewers all in different spots of their journey and where they are in their mental health. So I think it's really important where if someone is coming at you a little sideways to pause, see if there is, I know to see if there is something valid in there that maybe you can respond. And I know that you get so many comments, you can't respond to everyone. And, but beyond maybe saying like, hey, buy my book, just maybe go a little bit deeper, see if you can say, if I were in their shoes and I was in that spot, this is maybe where I was coming from too. See, and this is the hardest part for me. Like when people drop things that I tell other people, like this is something that I would tell somebody else. So, and you brought up a good point, like I'm an educator, but not everybody passing through is looking to get educated. Like a lot of people click on my videos because you guys, I'm aware, I'm aware of the way I make my titles and things like that. Like I want people to be tricked into thinking it's drama and then they actually learn something from it. But something I have done, but from what I'm taking from you is I should do a more, is that I've had people come to my videos who say, you didn't even talk about these people. All you did was talk about yourself. I'm like, yeah, because that I'm not a drama champ. So I should do that more often, I think and explain to people and something I've been tossing around and nothing set in stone. I've talked to Tristan. I've talked to one of my mentors, Roberto Blake, about this is I've thought about like kind of redesigning like how I just brand the channel because I say I pull different topics and try to turn it into something to help you improve your mental health. But I've been debating on like saying like, I do YouTube commentary with the purpose of trying to educate people to improve their mental health. So that's something I'm toying around with too, you know, but like, I don't know. Something that it comes down to and something that I think is one of the biggest lessons that I've just learned in life and especially in adulthood is how important phrasing is and everyone's, you're never going to be understood by everyone. Everyone's going to misinterpret or misunderstand a word or a phrase and they're going to just take it in their own head and spin it with how they hear it and that's inevitable and that's going to happen. That's one of the struggles I've had. See, look, I get my YouTubers to come give me therapy. That's one of the struggles I have is once somebody gets it set in their mind, I mentioned this in my video about Katie Morton the other day. Once somebody gets it set in their mind that I'm a bad person or a manipulator, like, it's like, I have to ask myself how much energy am I going to spend trying to convince them otherwise, right? Like, I've had people who have come to my channel, cussing me out, saying all this stuff and I posted on my Instagram, this one woman said, I wanted to apologize. I was off my medications for a while, watching your stuff, convinced me to go back to the doctor and I'm so sorry and that's that empathy, right? I never know what they're going through. Yeah, I just watched a little clip that Gary Vee just posted, I think today or something. She watches Gary Vee. I do. I take off my sweater, by the way, it's hot. And Gary Vee, he was having this interaction with this subscriber, the supporter of his where they were talking and the subscriber was thanking him and he was saying when I first came across your content, you know, I was mad, I didn't like it at all. But I kept watching because a little bit knew it was the truth and I think that's what you want, right? If anyone does come to your channel and they do have a bad taste and they do decide to put you in that hate category or that bad guy category that there's something that resonated that could bring them back. Yeah, so let's ask this question. Like, something that I'm trying to figure out. Like, are you watching enough of my videos? I find perspective fascinating like what you're talking about, right? And so you have some YouTubers who get pissed that I've made a video about them, right? But I think Illymation is the best example of somebody who thanked me. Yeah. She thanked me for it. So why do you think that some people get pissed? Like some people like, I don't know, I'll say names. Trisha Peta said I was using her for views, I'm trying to make money, da, da, da, da. But Illymation, I talked about a way more sensitive subject. We're talking about abuse, all sorts of stuff. And she thanked me because it helped her better understand. Why do you think that is? Like, and I don't want to like lead your answer, but it just popped in my head. Do you think it's people being at different parts of their journey and people, you know, accepting truths or what do you think that is? A little bit. I think that Trisha being such a big YouTuber, she's had a lot of people not as fair as you come and attack her in drama channels and she deals with a lot of stuff like that. And now she's making me empathize with Trisha more. Good. I think that you should a little bit more because she's got her stuff going on. And not that Illy isn't a big YouTuber, but I think just the difference in their channels, they aren't quite comparable. But I think that someone like Illy who has gone through her journey the way that she has, she's in a better position to understand someone taking what she shares and then spinning it in their own take to give you a little bit of a different perspective. Just maybe word it differently because that way it's more accessible. It can get to more people. People can understand it in a different way with more perspectives. And that's all the thing that the drama channels do too. They take it and they give you their perspective on it. And there's some value in that because you can see other sides, but people are going to be more accepting of others giving it their own commentary when it's their life. So I think someone like Illy is comfortable with you making a video commenting on what she had to share. Whereas Trisha isn't comfortable with everyone having a perspective. That does make sense. And the other thing is too, what made me think as I continue to empathize is not only are their channels or both their channels different, both in content and in subscribers, but Trisha has been on the platform for like a decade. Oh yeah, such a long time. I remember seeing Trisha 10 years ago. And Illy has had tremendous growth. Like Illy's got her million in about a year. So like you're saying Trisha has spent a decade of a lot of people commenting on her stuff just talking trash. So, oh man, that's a good point. So let me ask you this because we'll wrap it up pretty soon. Okay, so one of the reasons I asked daily and I was like, this is perfect for what I'm trying to accomplish is you've, I've witnessed you like you guys think I don't remember you in the comments. I don't remember me. You have, you have mentioned, I forgot when I forgot where, but I think I even remember you like defending me at some point on Twitter or in a comment. But you mentioned that you don't always agree with me. And I've caught it a few times where you don't. Like what, what's an example of that? And for me, and the reason I asked that is, because something I've been kind of like talking about recently is like, like I take in all criticism, but like at the end of the day, you and I still might disagree on something. Totally. And that's cool. But out of curiosity, what are some of the things and use whatever examples you want, whether it's how I said something, whether it's a video I made or whatever. So like, what do you disagree with me on, or what have you, if you have an example? Right. A lot of it does just come down to how you worded something, how you maybe titled something. Okay. I can remember there was a video where you used both Gabby and Tana in it. And I think the wording was just a little bit off for me because I was ignoring them a little bit too much. Yes. For my taste. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. And, and here's my thing too. So especially since you both, yeah, because I know, yeah, I remember your comment too. And I 1000% agree. And here's one of, so let's have a conversation. Like this is one of the struggles that I have is finding like my titles, like some people know, like when I make my titles, you have no idea what you're getting into. Yeah. Right. But like, where do you think, I don't know, and maybe it's case by case, where do you think that line is? Because I make a title like my title could be like, well, so-and-so exposed to, and it's not even really about that. Everyone hates this person and nobody. So where do you think that line is? Or do you think it's a case by case basis? Because you know I do that. Yeah. Right. So when you saw that clearly, you had a reaction, but I didn't thinking in my YouTuber brain, this is going to get people to click and then we can talk about a serious subject. Yeah. It is a fine line. I think it is a little bit case by case. But I think it's just maybe some words that you will never include. Like ones that we'll compare. Better than, worse than. Yeah. Just little changes like that where it gets to maybe someone can feel like you're labeling it as that's how it is instead of- Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember that video too. I was trying to show the two situations and discuss why do we give some people more lenience? Why are we harder on others and that can get into a whole different subject about like even just like discrimination and things like that. Like people are just people and that's how I see them. And like working in mental health and working with people, I don't see like this happened in the Facebook group not that long ago where some people just said like, do you think that some people are just pure evil? And I'm just like, I think some people are just sicker than other people. You know, and that's just kind of how I see it. So I see what you mean by that. Okay. See, that's something I could take. See, I do take criticism. Yeah. All right. So last question I want to ask you. Okay. Sitting here with me right now. Am I yellow or do we have a lighting problem? Lighting problem. Lighting problem. Okay. So I get my vitamins. Damn it. All right. But can I say a couple more? Heck yeah. Lay it on them. Because I kind of had some organized thoughts like a little bit before. Do it. Okay. I think one thing that a lot of people are and you're going to be getting this constantly because new people are going to be coming in. They're going to be discovering you more. They may watch one video. They may watch a couple. A lot of people aren't ever going to be okay with you just being a normal guy who do does these videos. The tie with mental health brings in a lot of ethics questions for people because they're like well the mental health ethics are this way and then you're not following that and but you say that you're mental health and I think people take it a little bit too stringently. Yeah. And I think people don't quite realize the value in a normal guy sharing his experience and you and you're not a normal guy. You do have some experience in the field and you have worked in addiction recovery and treatment which is totally adds value to your channel as well but I think when people try to get really messy with the ethics and just the way that you're viewed and how people try to say that you claim to be a therapist or all of that. I diagnose people. Consistently. Oh yeah or that you diagnose but when you consistently say that that's not what you're doing and I mean I think that could possibly be helped by just disclaiming the heck out of the fact that this is your opinion, this is your opinion, this is your opinion. Oh yeah. But you could say that a thousand times and you'll still get some comments. Yeah sometimes you're diagnosing. Yeah sometimes a damned if you do damned if you don't because that's the other thing too. I yeah I like that too and saying my opinion, I used to stress that a lot in earlier videos. I haven't as much but I think that's something that you know it could find a balance of doing that more might help people in understanding where you're coming from. But here's a quick question with all the books I read because you've seen videos where I include psychological studies and stuff like that. Like that's no longer my opinion. I'm talking about statistics. Definitely. Study results and all that. So yeah do I just say hey this yeah you just said a study right and so it's not my opinion that's a study. Okay. That is just getting really clear on like what is your opinion. I saw earlier you posted it was the comment about someone saying it was the 12th step comment and they were coming out you sideways. That was. But one thing in the way that you worded it is you said you are one of the reasons that people don't like 12 steps instead of this type of commentary is why people don't like 12 steps. See I'm out of town and Tristan isn't here to help PI. I should have had you around before I tweeted that but I absolutely 1,000% agree. Like I was just having a conversation with somebody earlier like don't hate the person hate the actions. Yeah definitely. Like especially when it comes to addiction and that's a whole another video. See look you guys you give me valid criticism I will take it I will bathe in it. Yeah and it's hard to sometimes see the validity when your audience is growing and they are dealing with maybe some irritability maybe some sassiness on occasion and they come at you with emotion and comments sometimes. I think the part that you have to do as the creator of your channel and what you want to achieve here is to just take those pauses see are they coming at me a little sideways maybe but what are they trying to say. Yeah something I'm working on especially after recent backlashes like because what happens for me just to get you all into here is like I like just comment after comment like I pause I pause I pause I pause and then as I hard when you also are flooded with oh you're this oh you're that f this yeah all like after like the 15th one I'm like okay you're getting it all right yeah but anyways you want your social media links in the description sure um my daily life uh daily with an e before the why uh that's me it's uh just uh kind of I'll start posting videos soon I plan to do maybe a little I was about to say press your into starting your youtube channel yeah this girl is doing work and yeah so start your channel but I'm working on it but yeah I'll be posting videos soon I'm gonna do a video maybe on what it was like filming with Chris I think that'd be pretty cool that's a good start right that would be a good start okay so we're we're keeping daily is all about accountability so we're gonna keep her accountable on that so youtube instagram and twitter my daily life I'll put all the links my daily life down in the description I'm daily all right and we're gonna do another video now so bye bye I'm gonna do air quotes all right