 That's a beautiful Monday morning right here. Thank you for joining us. It's time for us to go through the papers We call it off the press open up on Kataria joins the conversation via phone open up on good morning, and thank you for joining us All right open up or let's set up with the punch newspaper at this morning It talks about economic crisis Nigeria's nine trillion narrow or revenue threatened and federal government blames theft of course our production crashes by over 28 million barrels and government miss Miss users revenue target or missus revenue target Cobb oil theft caught Recurrent expenditure to avoid bankruptcy expert tells the federal government 18 terminal operators or federal government 753 million dollars 1.61 billion naira According to the attorney general of the federation now and rep summons the NPA boss sounds like I mean there's a lot of money that's just We're losing or money. There's just somewhere that one of gets in Okay And that's it on the banner caption seven month cashless transaction Raised 41 percent heat 210 trillion naira And a quermado or hanay's a false malami and six federal government intervention I thought we said that you know the federal government We had an agreement that the federal government will stay off Caution your supporters, please warns presidential candidate and orders and 27 killed in 28 political incident in seven months Again, just before we move away legacy bad on construction convention ground traffic and please ban Hawking monkey park spreads to 27 state and cases now 172 Amosu's political relevance validity have expired apc spokesman is saying And this talks about raid bushes on completed buildings IG orders, please mend the headlines on the punch newspaper this morning Let's go straight to the nation. We have some interesting headlines there Not too many of those but the few headlines there are interesting IG raises alarm over plot to attack public facilities DCU abducted in abya and gunmen invade school killed teacher in nasa where we have a picture of the IGP in a court There which says the agerents are here by urge to Corporate with the police as many operatives will be seen in strategic areas Roots and communities in order to suppress the antics and criminal activities of men of the underworld Seems a renewed push by the police in the light of recent security breaches Around the country southeast south-south youth begin mobilization for tenable Fiora fiora over a muslim muslim ticket Unnecessary is what that headline says Anger and apc over non refund of nomination fees um So maybe a case of uh Eating your cake and having it. I don't know what I guess Unless this morning would we'll say about that customs intercepts 234 tons of fertilizer At nigeria kemron border. Thank you. I don't know if this the border we know that you know Anyway, uh kidding up king pain. What do many others get seven years jail term One dough a dough three others record 13 new cases of Lots of fever Oh, and easy federal government should wait into quermado's case Is what the social cultural Pan-ebo social cultural group is said to be saying 18 terminal operators or federal government 753 million dollars 1.61 billion naira and uh final two from the nation Why vote buying is increasing and foreign airlines? Fair currency devaluation headlines on the front page of the nation But we're from the nation. Let's take a look at the daily trust newspaper this morning 140 days after federal government loses three billion naira unhorted kaduna buja train sevens I closed my shop laid off staff Uh, you have uh that is an entrepreneur who's quoted to say Clare terrorists Cells to ease resumption security expert How disruption will affect loan repayment? It's a lot now in total loss in 140 days 3.02 billion naira is lost That's that that's what you find this morning on the daily trust as the number of daily trips is eight Now number of passengers per trip is 900 to 1000 And economic ticket is two thousand eight hundred and three thousand era And vip ticket is sold at six thousand naira But I remember some time, you know, there's an impression also where it feels like this, you know There's no revenue that's really generated here. It's actually Not so lucrative if you look at it and that's why salaries are being owed and all of the delays But I mean it's surprising to to see that this amount has been lost in 140 days It feels like there's a lot of money right there APC Muslim Muslim ticket shunt sentiment and vote quality leaders Ido Oofiessen is quoted and 50 killed many displaced as flawed wrecks havoc in Jaguar Many terrorists killed in Niger and Kaduna air strike And just before we move away from that you find total loss in the last four months Since trade services were suspended is 600 million naira monthly Coffey, that's a lot. That's a lot of money at the time where we constantly say that We don't have resources. It's a lot to be losing Absolutely, absolutely But I think that the daily trust Group must be commended for putting something like this together Seems like the headlines from some papers sometimes on some days You see they go a bit different from the normal from the grain, which is good to see Let's move on to the guardian Conscience nurtured by truth. They say They lead with this headline only six out of 54 auto assembly plants running Below capacity only six out of 54 auto assembly plants running Below capacity Is what they're saying. So it's not that they are running below They are running only six are running, but they are also below capacity is the comma there The rider to that headline is stakeholders list forex inconsistent policies as challenges We have since converted our stuff in assembly plans to after sales says cfao dmd So the even the six that are running are running below capacity is what the The guardian is saying as parents drug apc of a refund of nomination fees as party Expells umahi's opponent or opponent says troops rescue another chip or gal three others In bono that's some good news there return ex-creates 77 wraps of cocaine at enugo airport and No no mark barbock virus disease outbreak in nigeria nc dc confirms with syrian of a barbock virus disease It's another one for the books Stop prolonged audits in our great n d dc board unionists tell buhari and flood kills 50 It is places hundred in hundreds in jigar saddow on there So headlines come on the front page of the guardian and at this point we will bring in our guest this morning Open up on cotaria Mr. Cotaria, thank you for a time once again. I'd like to start with this one on the front page of the guardian Where aspirants of the uprogressives congress are Dragging the party over the refund of their nomination fees is a story that also the nation Went with as well Is this something that is normal in in the politics of nigeria that after the primaries hold and the losers would ask for a refund of their nomination fees We need to come with us from any law in this country where the great for reform and If you move out Or if you are not able to participate in the primaries Yes, I agree with the reform There is no possible Any battle that would be a reform is not to do with the party's one fee I know that with that 20 day tax order That they do reform You are both also that answer me the fact that in the primaries of 40th form For this call for reimbursement a decision by the sense of injustice Revolve the political party's cabinet where they hold This country is your poison on the political party and so A lot of people arrive though. They are angry That if you know that you're going to impose the cabinet of the country There why allow us to participate from And they They come to a protest And they are very reputant race, you know, why is that we're sorry? And it's not something that you just want to dismiss or let it be what it was Even if the money you use for this reform Of slowly, if it's very difficult to just decide the way like that, I mean It's difficult. If you imagine what you can do, what's wrong? If you decide to go and save Then you'll be denied That is why a lot of guys are calling for a reform Because of the interest they have That's where it all is I can remember All right, let's take a look at, you know, the economic situation of Niger and that's You know the punch tags that he talks about economic crisis Now Niger's oil production slumped by 28 million barrels between january and july 2022 and that's a big threat to the federal government 9.3 trillion our oil and gas revenue target by the end of 2022 now the government is blaming that on all tax Not also forgetting the fact that we haven't really been able to meet our quota We're talking about, you know, the quota that's been made Or are located to Nigeria by OPEC over time. How do you respond to this? Or There's my question to that That's why a lot of work that come on in for that of the economy When you have a government that is grounded in the morale of all you see is one issue. You can imagine the OPEC And One of them all the day They are talking about the increasing taxes and to In other words, you want to describe the masses of necessities and this is not used to the to the rich The truth about this is that The government is acting On what to do with their economy And this is as a result of the morale in leadership back to you Completely headless, rather less There is a lot of stress in the system In whole lot of stress. You can imagine on my country, they are talking of having this period You can imagine, but I show out Go to them without any compulsion in coming out to talk of The Muslim or Mexican or Christian Somebody has to go to the non-vision in jail And you are the plethora of issues I'll tell you one, whenever there is It's a light problem in the oil sector The government becomes busy Because it has no idea No second Home of the rich or they cannot be outside the box On how to address the economic issues in this country If you don't show your oil, as you think in the oil sector You have to have no grip on them when the refineries are not working That would have needed to get there exactly in the oil sector You have to be good and important in the refineries This is either ridiculous So that is the light problem in the oil sector When there is a great impact on the economy And on the earnings of the federal government That is the truth about it That is what every government does Apart from the issue of the criminals Making pipelines and so on Which is what has been activated By the government You have so many governments that are involved in these silly things And are being protected by the same government You have to cover So you have to run around with them What is happening to the run around with them? Every time money is on both sides You have to run around with business And not in the business Who says they don't run business? The government Who's the real government? And they don't make sure you don't make sense of the fact that I'm a refinerie That I'm not working That I'm not involved It's not a job, not that I'm being honest, I'm good at it I would that have the negative impact on the economy And on the grossing of the oil So, even in the example of the oil refineries You say to yourself, I know Yes, you have how many people working in that industry And you say to yourself I know that I'm one of them I'm sure What they got that is protected How can they describe that? So it all boils down to leadership They're just talking about I don't know if we have people break the pipeline Yes, we all condemn that What is that respect? What you think about it is that That might have the Thank you sense Negative effect on the economy It cannot be compared to the flow of the system In terms of the dollar In terms of what they're going to put in What to do with those jobs In terms of size And what are you? So the government Who just showed his mouth Who just showed his mouth Who just showed his mouth Who just showed his mouth What about the economy? Well, so Who just showed his mouth Who just showed his mouth What about the economy? Well, I mean you just probably answer The next question So it means that you agree with The expert who have said that The government needs to cut oil theft And also cut recurrent expenditure To avoid bankruptcy You probably agree With this expert And that's it, but let's see how All of this pans out Well, so I said You probably answered the question The next question that would have Come from me Because experts are saying that The government needs to cut recurrent expenditure And also cut oil thefts In order to avoid the economy So the next question Why would it suddenly Be said One way to say that In the context of The economy needs The government needs to cut Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts Oil thefts I mean, let's let's let's move on from that now. Sorry to interject, but um, I would really want to, because of time, we want to move on to a couple of other stories from other papers and you've raised all the important questions, you know, about about the situation as far as the president is concerned. But but another one is on the front page of the Guardian. It's something I'm sure interests you because you are an adult man to the core. Unionists are asking the president to to to be quick in in his, uh, to be quick in in his forensic audit so that he can inaugurate the board of the NDDC. It's on the front page at top of that front page often Guardian this morning. You know, they're saying that Unionists are asking the president, but how to quickly be done with the forensic audit so that he can inaugurate the board of the NDDC. What does he say? The fact that at this time, we still don't have a substantive vote for such a very important commission. Then the second one, the NDDC, which is along by the initial mega delta, I said, look, this thing I just used, they are talking nonsense. They are used to deceive the NDDC. Pretending that it doesn't be Union one, enough to all the way. Then the board will take a contact on that, and you won't get a vote from the president. That is number one. But if you decide who wins, the judge will end the game. Which has not to be. Number two, what is the importance of ending the game, and how do you end the game? Make sure you're not going to die first. What is the risk of resuscitation? You don't need me to. What is not going to die first? If you don't love ending the game, then you're not going to die first. You don't need new budgets. You don't need a new budget. Moving the future of America, just because of all kinds of dervishes, you won't come to church again soon. It is not in America that I would like to end the game. So, in the second of the end of the season, the idea you do is that if I end the game, I'm not going to win the game. I'm going to use this and power the end of the season to carry out this job of addressing the crime of the United Nations. What is the importance of the United Nations? What is the importance of the United Nations? There is no money to go. You have the United Nations advantage. You have very much of the United Nations advantage, and so on. You have that money, and it's all crime. End of the season, I'm going to end the game. End of the season. Hopefully. I'm going to want people, most of them, to come in. So, you have a major job, come out there, at the end of the season. Or it's only a thought. I'm sure it's going to be a thought, and also it is worth to remind ourselves that in the end of the season, the whole thing is just like a thought. There was the thought that was an executive thought. So, we want a well-being of the executive thought. So, it controls the situation of our country. So, it's not the point of the people. The reason it works is because it's a legal matter. It's a legal issue. But those in power are not in question. That's the truth of the problem. The end of the season, I'm going to call them. Something you also have like a thought that are a thing that are also complicitous, that also have to be called the like a thought. I don't want to do it the way I do at the end of the season. What is the impact? There is no impact, Russia, by the method of thought. Not. People put in the spice powder and the kakao. People put in the product control delivery and executes. When you put it in, it has very, very few products on the top. They present the product of the thought out. What can happen? I beg you please, for example, in the time where there's a lot of economic crisis or we're just faced with it. 140 days after, federal government loses 3 billion to halt at Keduna Abujatri in service. And that's on the daily trust newspaper. What do you make of this situation? I mean, we seem to be, you know, on the other hand, we're losing out but you also need to consider the issue of security. Yes, so the services of the Abujat Keduna train has been halted for about 100, what was halted, about 140 days and we have lost 300 billion on that. And you have a report also saying that 600 million, 3 billion, I beg your pardon, 600 million also total loss in the last four months since the train services were suspended. Yes, it's been halted. So first of all, it's really sad that we're losing money. But on the other hand, you also need to think about security. First of all, it could be a natural thing, although the federal government could get out of the game for not providing enough security, but let us make that, I mean, probably does not have to get the camera out of the way. But then, people have seen this activity. So it will be a palace for you to resume on that railway. It will be extremely insensitive. You also, this is also by the point that the federal government has not shown any form of interaction. The federal government has not even inserted in the release of this activity. Also, people are angry. And as well, I think today it is you, the train, whatever, the casino, who got, I tell you that Nigeria, this time, not the adopters, Nigeria will go and burn down what is. Open up on Qatari. I don't think it'll be fair. Open up on Qatari. I don't think it'll be fair to say the federal government is already interested in anyway in security release of these AK-9 train kidnapped victims. Because, I'm sure, I'm sure, sorry sir, sorry sir, sorry sir, please, let me just put it out. No, no, I want to put something out there to be, to so far as the basis for what I'm saying. Because last week, a guy by Shea who put out a statement, you know, he had an intimate BBC house detailing, you know, at length what the federal government had done. They had acceded to some demands of the leader of those terrorists, got some of their members who were in prison, got their wives and their children, even went to Adamawa where they were in jail, where the kids and the wives were in detention, to fly them by plane and give them to the terrorists. And terrorists said, no, now, after all, you've given us all we want, give us money. So, at least they've done something, yeah. I'm not impressed yet, but yes, I'm not impressed yet in what you'll do. I'm impressed yet in return. I'm not rhetoric. So stop the rhetoric. And let us see something concrete. Every day. I can get up in the morning to say, I'm sure as you're working on you, learn to do your PhD in America, learn to do your PhD in Harvard, learn to do your PhD. I could be deceiving you. But until I get your official paper and give you proof of payment, you'll feel payment, then you know that I'm working. So they're not interested. Not someone, a man that has been kidnapped, that has been released by the Saddam Hussein. No. I can say you're not working. Look at the issue of the court of money. Now, when Zena was arrested and co-existed in Saudi Arabia, she was to face the deck now who are in on that their commision not to be tabled. They don't imagine the decision of the woman to be tabled as the policy of the court. You should hear this government that has a spedophonic personality on issues. So the son of the man is not working. They're then deceived in Nigeria. How many of them are here? How many of them are here? So please don't be deluded by those rhetoric from the son of the government, who are not involved in the show of the father or the mother of the son-in-law. All right. I mean, you say that shouldn't be deluded. I'm just putting the facts out there for you to comment on. I mean, there's nothing delusional about it. But let's dovetail because you've raised the queer mother issue on the front page of a nation. Ohanezi, their paper reports are asking the federal government to wait into the queer mother case on a diplomatic level, I'm sure. So just speak on that for a bit. Please. Anything that didn't happen to the boy in London? The boy, for example, would have been the first life. People said to forget the past. So they said, you have to go back. But the boy told you what he was advised. Oh, you have the opportunity now. So why are you coming back? I'm going to tell you right there. God has blessed you. Read that past year. It's a real advice. And he did what he did. No problem. The facts are there. We have facts to do. It's not there. It's not there. Now, we are not saying, because the miracles won't get you scoffed. Here is one of his sentiments. They are living a black. Everybody is 100. And all you have to say is okay fine! This was gone for a technical reason. Not him well. Mr. President used Diplomatic channels to help this man out. He's going through a lot. Psychologically, emotionally, physically and otherwise. He's thinking of his daughter. In health of his daughter. Then again, he's going between freedom, liberty and jail. This man is going through a lot. If not, he's struggling maybe he has psychological problems right now. Because if you come and suppose to be about to let's talk to the government. Who I'm saying let's not intervene. This is the reason we weren't the independent president. It's a Nigerian personal problem. Let's talk to the government. Let's not intervene. If there are things, excuse me, if you want there and for me there, a crime such as murder, stealing, there always is no. A man trying to save his daughter's life. A man believed he went through the world. I think I did a procedure of breach. Not in Nigeria for a little bit. In London. Go back to me. So, what are you supposed to go back to? That's what I said. But one day now, committed fraud. Talking of drugs and so on. Insider media. Mr. President. All that, I'm going to go back to the subject. Now, if you go to the government, you see why don't you know, one of the things that it makes sure that is change discrimination in this country. You want the president whose speech is dealing with words of, in the world of, I think words of non-location and deposition. In one breath you say one thing in another breath you say another. Because it's the way the man is not. Why, you can't have a son when I could be. They have been brought in, dropped in. I dropped. So, it's the fact that I feel that when you are saying it's not that important. Life is equal to money. You say it's not that important. Not to get involved. What do you mean? They can say it's not that right. You look at yourself. You look at the process. Why not do something? Okay. Well, I was probably going to show your thoughts on this one, but we're being prompted to, you know, to call it a wrap right here. Thank you so much. Okunaba and Kataria for being part of the breakfast. We appreciate your thoughts and all of the insights you've brought this morning to the big stories on the front pages. Yes. Okunaba, thank you so much for being part of the breakfast. Thank you. We appreciate your time. We wish we had time to ask you about the gale of defections in your state, river state and whether you're also planning to join the train. But maybe we'll talk about that some some other day. I'm sure it's your good friend Chris Feinborn as well. Who's next? I'll be surprised to see you. I won't be surprised to see you in the front. Well, that's the size of it. We need to go now. Thank you so much. Okunaba and Kataria. Well, that's the size of it on the front pages of National Daily. So take a break when we return. The conversation continues right here. Stay with us.