 Well, welcome to our last full day. It's amazing how these treats just seem to go whoop, zoom past. And we've had a number of people come up and say, oh, you know, I'm just, what's going to happen when I leave here, or how can I be connected, or what is available to stay connected, or what do you guys do? Do you do anything else besides these retreats? Yeah, quite a lot actually. So just thought we'd run through a couple of those things. And there's quite a bit actually. So I'm just going to touch on a few areas. And if you want to know more, you can speak to me or one of the residents here, which is, you know, Sue and Jeff and Pete and Colin. And Jeffrey there is not a resident, but he's very familiar. He just travels around filming David. So we have a lot of books. If you haven't been in the parlor here, we've got a lot of different books available. David always talks about, he's never written a book, but there's a lot of books with his name on it. And what's happened is that there's a number of us that are being drawn to David. Just extremely drawn and resonating with these very deep teachings and put together his teachings in the written form. And then it's come out in all different other packages and ways as well. So to start with with books, there's a lot of them in there and there's a lot of different books there. We've got one's Unwind Your Mind Back to Guide is an amazing manual. It comes from a site that those had for some decades actually. It's a teacher of teachers site. And so that's a great Q&A type book. If you've got basically any question you can think of, it's in their book. It's 528 pages, so it's quite a book. It's actually three books in one. Three books in one. And in some of the other languages, we're actually starting to do them in three different books because they are so large. And so actually each book is so comprehensive in itself. But there's many other books. There's The Quantum Forgiveness book, which is an amazing book combined with Physics meets Jesus. So there's an idea of quantum physics, Jesus, movies. There's a whole lot of different areas that come into this book that in fact some publishers have looked at and said they're interested in some of their books and say well you've got too many things you're trying to bring together here that we feel we've put together so beautifully and a lot of people resonate with. So that's Quantum Forgiveness. There's a movie Watcher's Guide to Enlightenment we've got there. There's a book called Going Deeper which we might be just about out of. We've got a reprint coming in. There's Too Late. So there's a lot of other books I can go into on and on about them because I just love them. I'm very passionate about it all. So there's some of the books in there and there. One of the ways that a big way that people find David and the Living Miracles community is through YouTube. So David's YouTube channel has got probably a couple of thousand videos on there and that's all free and just an amazing resource. So if you go to YouTube just type in David Hofmeister you'll find him on there so that's a great thing to do. It's a very searchable woman, have you? Spreaker. So people have been asking about this Spreaker or audio or these actual talks are actually filmed live. Actually now we've actually got them straight on to Facebook so even on Facebook you're seeing a lot of these talks now and Spreaker is an amazing archive of David's talks over the years so it's Spreaker with a P and it's Spreaker. You just look up Spreaker online and type in David Hofmeister you'll find David's Spreaker channel but if you go to literally almost any of our websites there's actually a Spreaker bar down near the bottom you can actually click on that and you'll find the Spreaker channels. Lots of different websites, lots of free websites and just one, I'll just mention one for now because it's a good portal site, it's called ACIM.biz it's easy to remember ACIM.biz so that's got a lot of different ways to many different websites, the YouTube channel to get to Spreaker you can find everything through ACIM.biz or most things I would say, there's still not everything on there. Of course online or a friend, I can't afford to look Yeah, a fully searchable, one of the sites is a fully searchable site called A Course in Miracles Now.com Jeff put that together actually, it's a great resource because the whole course including, and often times you can't find the course with the sum of prayer and the psychotherapy pamphlet this site includes all that and it's fully searchable you can just type something in and you'll find it there online so that's a great resource NMWG is one of our very popular sites the movie watchers go to EnlightenNWGE.org that's an amazing site we've got the book here but we've got way more things on the actual website and that's a subscription site and it just helps keeping that site going and any funds of course that we get through any of the resource sales and things all help with extending this incredible message so NMWG is just an amazing thing we actually, what we did the other day where we had these movies like Holy Man Last Night and The Ultimate Gift and what have you, we have David's commentary there's a whole lot of those on NMWG, many different movies you hear us talk about these ones and I know a lot of people take notes about this is a great movie, this sounds really good there's a lot of those with actual David's commentary on that site that's a great resource NMT, Mystical Mind Training so this is an incredible resource this Mystical Mind Training course is something you can do over two years so there's 24 modules, 12 modules per year I'm just about any topic and think of 24 modules and that's, you know, if you work on about 12 hours a week I think it is when you get through a module there's a lot of information on there, it's multimedia there's text, there's audios, videos, there's a lot of different things to help really absorb these teachings and to really apply a course of miracles there's also assignments and things that you can do that are very helpful in applying that actual module even the introductory course on NMT if you just go online and go to MysticalMindTraining.org the introduction is just incredible I had a mystical experience basically watching the 9's clip on there, I've got to say it you were there I think, yeah, I saw it so that's a great, that's amazing actually Topics like true and false empathy pretty difficult, and I think it would be a good place to get covered in depth yeah, guidance and trust, lots of different topics it's just beautiful so that's very, I've only just touched out I've only got many many websites so I've just touched on some of the other ones we've got there again if you want to know more you can speak to any of us and ACI.biz is just a great portal to find a lot of this stuff, so I'll just talk about Utah for a moment a long way from here people have been asking about the monastery we've got a few things happening at the monastery early next year in April there's a retreat following an Easter conference in Utah and then there's this mystery school in May sorry the mystery school, the tabula rasa mystery school is something we've been working on for quite some time and the very first one is May next year it's for a whole month and then there's other ones there's one in September in Mexico and then in the winter I'm not sure where that one is I don't think we've decided on that yet so this will be a whole month residential, fully immersed in very deep teachings you've had a week immersed and this will be a month with all different non-dual teachers as well just really immersed so that'll be an amazing month and if you want to know more about that we've got a site that's non-dualityonline.org is it? non-dualityonline.com there's brochures in there if you want to find out more about that that's probably enough of that Utah for now and if you want to stay linked there is a great mailing list if you go to our livingmiracles.org site livingmiracles.org there is a mailing list that you can get onto there it's called Circle of Support also if you want to volunteer or look at helping out in some way you can go to circle.livingmiracles.org and that will take you to this all these pages you can actually go into to look at how you can be involved and help out what we can do is actually have everyone who's actually involved in this retreat be involved in the mailing list and if you don't want to be on the mailing list it might be easier just to say oh no I don't want to be on your mailing list it's great though the mailing list is actually it's full of amazingly great teachings and then you get to find out about events that are coming up around the world so if you don't want to be on that just tell Sue otherwise we'll have you on I think most of you are already on the mailing list anyway so other people have been talking about well I'd love to stay here can you stay here? Yes you can you can have a devotional stay here at this actual centre and other centres around the world as well so there's an application form we have online for that it's a devotional stays you can go to the Living Miracle site under centres there's a drop down there that has a devotional stay before we can go to our ACIM-Australia.org site and .info sorry ACIM-Australia.info and there's an application form there if you want to come and join us here I'd love you to stay for a few days or a couple of weeks and it's different but being here at the retreat we use backdrops a lot as a backdrop, projects as a backdrop for healing in the mind and so it's beautiful, really immersing here with those that are very very devoted it's a very contemplative time and it's a time of really just allowing up whatever's there can be very very authentic it's very very very safe like you are here at the retreat and it's a time of deeper immersion so if you've got a spark about that you can fill out the form and we'll be joining further after you fill out the form so it's a great thing to do if you've got a tickle for it we've got a Sydney gathering on the night after tomorrow so Friday night a few of us are going down David and Francis and Melanie and I and Geoffrey and Svala down to Sydney Eastern suburbs of Sydney down near the beach Kujie we'll be gathering there from 7-10pm Friday night any of you want to join that'll be a great night that's most of what I wanted to say about that I just wanted to talk about Melanie and I who are hitting the road we may be feeling things around relationships there's a lot of people talking about relationships there's a big topic Jesus has nine chapters dedicated to it it's a big topic Jesus has nine chapters on it we're we're looking at going out and being totally open to being hosted because everyone knows who Melanie is you want to stand up or put your hand up or something so we're actually going to be hitting the road and that's totally up to invitations which would be really good we're looking at doing a gathering or whether it's a couple of day retreat we're sort of open to just discussing what you feel a tickle for and of course they can open up to basically anything you want to talk about but the relationship seem to be the topic or is the thing that we're going out on there may be a bit more structured to it sounds like it might be coming in coming to Sydney maybe once a month do you want to say anything on that but it's more about once a month than possibly then being in we're open to zooming or skyping in and joining virtually so there was a possibility of doing that weekly as I thought and maybe coming in person once a month so if anybody again has got a tickle around any of that we're open we're all about following the call I was born at Brett in Australia but I haven't been here for over four years and just got back a few weeks ago and I just went to Utah for a few weeks as far as I knew so you know but the call seemed to be in North America and then we went to Europe and you know Canada the states and then Mexico and now I find myself here which feels like it's going to be some month so we're all about the call we simply follow the call and that's what tickles our hearts and and uh if you want to join us in that we can just talk about it we just love joining in the truth so yeah yeah absolutely yeah it's an easy flight yeah it's close to the western Australia I think isn't it so yeah yeah you're like Fiji we should have a center in Fiji yeah yeah okay anybody got a tickle about that yeah yeah yeah right I'll just finish off by saying there is this great little card here called see that it's quantum forgiveness it's the cover of that lovely quantum forgiveness book we've got a lot of our websites on there there's the free sites and some of the all the various sites some of the sites on there there's plenty more than that but that'll give you a good a good branding or a good start and the ACI in Australia card is there to have the ACI in Australia website which is not actually on that other card okay thank you very good and Jackie is going to come up and join me this morning Jackie's been a very big part of our community for quite a few years and I mentioned last night after the movie when I was talking a little bit about autonomy about her daughter Kirsten who's also the author of I married a mystic and so this is the mother of the one who married a mystic it's a family affair because a lot of times people think oh well my parents will never get into all this and that happens a lot but it's quite interesting it's a vibrational thing and Jackie became quite interested Jackie was actually Jackie and Mia were the first two to draw me down to the South Pacific where they joined together and thought let's bring David down to the South Pacific and that was quite a few years ago maybe 2004 or something like that and then they put my husband on Mia's husband Lars heard of Lars in the real world this was Lars that were from Sweden and that got things going and that helped spring me over to Australia as well so Jackie's been very involved down here of course in miracles in New Zealand and Australia and it's kind of like the resident mystic you have seen her around a lot because she's been in mudgy with just taking quiet time and going inward and in a very devotional time of going into the silence and so I thought as we talk about some topics today and we also welcome you to participate in Living Miracles Australia Jackie would be a good one to talk a little bit about that because when I first started coming to Australia she became more keen more interested and I remember one point we said well we need someone to help to organize like a week retreat up in Nusa and you basically just stepped in and organized the whole thing and townhouses and all kinds of things around airfare and typically I would come down and tour up and down the coast of Australia for a period of weeks and then we would culminate with a week long retreat like what we're having right here and we had some pretty big numbers too after all that touring sometimes somebody was saying up to 60 that one time Eric Elf was saying we had about 60 for that one where we washed the feet in 2008 so that's in that stretch I'm very honored to have Jackie here this morning so she could share a little bit of what this has been in her journey Thanks David and thank you everyone to start with when we invited David down to New Zealand we had been in a course group and got the metaphysics under our belt we thought that was a mistake and thought but David stood out as the one teacher who was actually living uncompromisingly the course and that was what drew the heart and I've got to say from that point there weren't really any conscious decisions it was being drawn just following following following oh I feel yes do it yes do it and this deep knowing in the heart the calling that we all have that brings us all here together can't be doubted because you wouldn't find yourself here without it and so that when it's tickled when it's triggered by the presence then it can't be denied although we try pretty hard like I I was in boots and all because right from the start when David came Kirsten joined him and went straight to the peace house so there was the although I'd introduced Kirsten to the course she was actually taking the steps and I often say she did it for me because when we have the wisdom to watch and to learn and to really really listen and pay attention to what's gone before it can hasten our own journey and our own learning but we do have to be willing to actually be open to that and there are times when I wasn't you know I was things that really upset me a couple of things stand out when one visit when they came down to New Zealand Kirsten was calling me her biological mother that went down real well how dare you deny me what happened to be cleaning the windows at the time boy did they get cleaned I was raging but the rage needed to come up it was all about the special relationship and although I didn't see it at the time it was a blessing it was a gift and that's where everything that can be exposed in these environments with this one purpose of healing which is what brings us together that is the tickle that is what the presence draws from us when that's triggered then all of this other stuff that doesn't really belong that we don't want that we have no space for in our holy minds that gets cleared it gets exposed we see how ugly it is and then when we're with those people who can actually be the display can be the demonstration for us and hold that space to say this is not who you really are this is not you this is what you need to release to know the you to know who you are and so that's the gift that we can bring to each other in community for each other we hold that space for each other and that truly is holding the space of the presence to see the Christ to know the Christ to want nothing more than that to want that for ourselves and for everything that we look upon and that's what is supported and that's what takes us to the mystic it's that desire that absolute devotion to the purpose that we're together and that's what brings the tide of love the overwhelming tide of love that you can feel here that you know in your hearts that's where the safety is that's the presence you know Jesus said in the Father you and you are in me and that is the experience that's what we come to know of each other Jack is a good witness the presence of love is you just let it take you and you live in it and you are carried by it and it transforms perception it doesn't really take anything away it just retranslates perception so there's no sense of loss I think that's the thing that's been coming up in the retreat like wow if I keep moving in this direction could I lose something could I lose a great deal it's a retranslation of perception there's nothing ever lost you might say it just keeps expanding and it keeps expanding awareness does but there's no loss in expansion and a good little parable that was the time when Kirsten and Jackie were down I believe down in Sydney walking along the streets of Sydney and some of you know of course the Matrix was filmed down here in Australia another film that's in our collection Dark City very profound film filmed in Australia has known for some of these deep kind of transformational movies that go all over the world and maybe Jackie can share a little bit about it but Kirsten and Jackie were walking and then an event occurred that from the perspective of a mother and a daughter it would be perhaps considered quite traumatic but from the perspective of the mighty companions walking along with Jesus rejoicing in the love of God in the love of Christ it's a very different perspective but Jackie's heart stopped beating while Kirsten and Jackie were walking along and maybe you can share Kirsten shares that a lot how beautiful that was because there was such a calm and such a joy that there wasn't a sense of panic or drama it was just no different than a bird chirping along the street in a tree Yeah we had seemingly believed in us lifetimes and we had nursed each other in death one or the other left and so there was something there very deep that needed to be healed and when when this happened and my heart started to slow down it was oh, okay I got taken off to the hospital and she came and the perspective was how can I describe an experience acceptance and surrender to what is and knowing and knowing that everything was perfectly in place there was no tragedy there was nothing to hold on to there was no one to leave and in that stopping pause when the presence is fully filled there was a coming together of everything and everyone in the mind and the realization that nothing is left everything comes along and in that realization was the healing of even having to take care there was a sensation of oh, this is done this is complete now and so any specialness or any stickiness within the relationship could be released for it to truly become a holy relationship where the only purpose was for healing and it was a profound moment of actually seeing that play out in the divine in the presence of it I really don't have words I think with these experiences they can't truly be explained but that was the healing that was what came from it we've had many shifting moments too we were down in Sydney going for Kustin's green card application and we'd got on a train we were up near Morissette at the time we'd got on a train which was supposed to be the first train down to Sydney and it started stopping at every station we were going to be late for the appointment so we went into deep prayer alright, we trust that you've got it that if this is to be it will be if this is the script this is the plan and so we went into deep prayer and the next thing over the Tannoy came this train will stop at no further stations we will be going straight through to Sydney now so we got to Sydney out of the station and we'd done a run through a couple of weeks before so we knew we had to go two blocks left by a park up to the square and I've been to Martin's to the embassy we got off the train went a very short distance and the traffic lights where we were to cross weren't two blocks down they were right there the park was right across the road two blocks had completely disappeared saving us the time that we needed to get to the appointment on time so everything collapsed in that moment and it was really just to show us that you don't have to believe it you really don't have to rely on this world for anything it will be just surrender to what is just be with it and go with what's presented and that's why in community one of the first things that we do is learn to follow listen and follow and trust and we do that with each other because ultimately that brings us to the full surrender and the full trust that we need to give over we need to give this world over completely to have it all given back in the miracle to be in the flow of it in the flow of what's given it's beautiful because we have talked a lot because we've had some really deep movies here but we started to talk more and more about the present moment and the past and future our defenses against the present moment and then there was interest in approaching that present moment and basically it's done through the miracle of time and I've mentioned before that Jesus says if you'll be a miracle worker for me I will arrange time and space because as human beings there's a pretty fixed belief that time and space are set they're like absolutes like human beings exist in time and space very much like fish swim in water even humans are in time and space actually Einstein came along and he was so brilliant but he basically said that time and space were not absolute up until that point it seemed most everybody all scientists were basically saying time is an absolute and space is an absolute and Einstein came along so time and space are relative and Jesus talks a little bit about this in the course he says time and space are the same error there's nothing absolute at all about them more recently we've had physicists like Brian Green who have done beautiful programs teaching that how would you talk about time and space being relative when most everyone on the planet one second is one second is one second for example if somebody came with you and said one second in China it's the same as one second in Canada it's the same as one second in Russia a second is a second a second doesn't matter what country you're in it's an absolute a second is always a second you must remember this a kiss is still a kiss a sigh is just a sigh fundamental things apply as time goes by well actually Brian Green did what they did was they took an atomic clock which is the most precise clock we have on earth for measuring time an atomic clock and they had two atomic clocks one was on the earth and the other they set up in a supersonic jet plane that would fly around the world so they had a clock on earth atomic clock and they sent one up in a plane and zoom it goes flying around in different gravitational fields obviously when you get up beyond the earth and so forth and then they come down the plane lands they had these two atomic clocks set precisely to be in sync with each other and when they plane lands they looked at the two clocks and the clocks were different one second not one second one hour is not one hour and if you for example a hole depends it's tied in with gravity so if you went into a black hole time would be enormously different than it's perceived on earth not a little bit different what's the movie with Matthew Mahoney Interstellar that's probably one of the best movies so how radically different time is depending on gravitational fields so okay we have to begin to say okay it's relative and it's perceptual time is actually subjective and we know that because I was talking last night about how when you're having a lot of fun you can lose track of time but you may be with somebody else who's not having fun or a hangnail or a migraine headache and you went wow I can't believe four hours have gone by and I hardly noticed it at all and the one with the migraine might say I noticed every second of those four hours boom boom boom their perception of time is very different from a happy, joyful I had no awareness of the passage of time to I was aware of one pounding second from the next it's relative Kirsten and Jackie have had a lot of these great time-collapse moments that was the green card moment where the literally downtown Sydney collapsed also she had one in New Zealand so it works in New Zealand as well she had another Kirsten moment it was Kirsten was going for a renewal of her R1 religious visa and they both had prepared and let's get to sleep and make sure we get up because they had to go from Hibiscus Coast to Red Beach down into downtown Auckland to the embassy and they're all prepared all prepared same kind of thing happens this time instead of the train they oversleep they oversleep and they get up and they go oh my gosh they've totally overslept and the traffic going in that morning down to downtown Jackie had seen it both of them were huge traffic congestion not only did they oversleep but to go in to make this appointment at the embassy when you make appointments at an embassy it takes a long time to get them and if you're not there, you're not there then too bad so they got up and they started to head to the highway and when they got to the highway to drive in quite sure that they would be very, very late and miss the appointment they got onto the highway and it was like ghost town there were no cars there was no traffic congestion they just glided it was faster than ever because there was no traffic congestion at all and it's like it's just the right morning like every would have bet that that would be when you know a city, you think you know congested, congested they glided down, they got there early actually because there was no congestion woke up late got to the appointment early and they were like Jesus rearranged time and space and they were an entire highway away for this appointment Tiger Woods was playing golf the whole community went to see Tiger Woods and left the highway completely open on that particular morning so you see these are examples I had another good time-collapse with my friend Raj and Suze and we were going to somewhere I believe quite near the Gold Coast but we had huge delays on leaving the house and I think Raj was sitting in the front seat driving the car maybe it was Kirsten up there and then Suze and I were in the back seat and Raj was, he was our organizer he was quite stressed because he was having the gathering at a venue and only he had the key to the venue and as an organizer he hates being late when people show up they come to a parking lot and the doors are locked and they're early and on time for the event and you can't even get in of course it is my thing people may leave, they're going to be angry they're going to be upset, the doors are locked he was very frustrated and everything but he and his partner Suzanne produced this beautiful magazine called Way of the Heart and in this edition the recent edition of Way of the Heart it was an interview with me talking about time collapses how everything is in divine order, how all things work together for good, how you never can be late how you might as well just rejoice in every moment because you're never late and you're never early those are just false perceptions no need to stress, the script is written and you're always in the right place at the right time of course Jesus says it in the course with his double negatives, you cannot but be people go why does he do that, cannot but be who talks like that cannot but be you cannot but be at the right place at the right time I always say you're always in the right place but there's no reaction to that so we're going along and Raj is like he's steering wheel we're going to be late we're going to be late the door is locked I've driven this many many times many times and I know we're going to be late and he was very upset and very anxious and he was quite stressed and meanwhile Suze is in the back with me laughing in the article oh honey she's tapping his shoulder I'm reading David's article right now looking over me and we'll have a time collapse we're in the miracle we're in the joy in the back seat here and we are going to we'll probably be there early and he's like I have driven this many times many times and absolutely we will not be early I know the world I know this route I've driven this my SUV many times and he was quite concerned she said no no it says right here all we have to be is in the joy and everything is provided we'll have a time collapse join me in a time collapse ugh the wife says join me in a time collapse the husband's going ugh I know from my past experience this is going because I've driven this many times well we got there and he got out and his people came hey welcome welcome and they all seemed happy and he looked at his watch and we had actually arrived there early he said I he had this look of astonishment he'd driven it many times how could time and space be collapsed so those are examples of when you're in the miracle things everything in time and space is you might say it's soft it's relative it's based if you're in the joy you'll lose track of the passage of time and literally things can be orchestrated in ways where there was one time when Kirsten and Jackie were driving and Utah towards our monastery and they were running out of gas and they needed a gas station to like a mirage just appear they'd driven that route again many many many times and then they look up just when the car needs gas and there's a gas station and the title of the gas station is Big G like the movie last night G and they're like what where did this come from it just came up on the side of the road it's still there too I have to tell you I drive by it's still there the permanence of the miracle yes the permanence of the miracle they not only manifested a gas service station but it's still there nice when you go into the monastery to have that there but we have to start to think that this perceptual world is a reflection of mind and when you need something if you're in the joy if you're shining the joy and love and happiness of who you are as God created you then Jesus says I will take care of things and I will arrange time and space it can seem a bit like a fantasy world it can seem a bit like a very happy fairy tale and at times I've described so many miracles that I've had for the last 30 years that people have said that doesn't even sound like a regular life it sounds like a fairy tale but a very happy fairy tale in which things appear when you need them and that's important those miracles need to be passed on and shared just because when you have all this fear like Jesus saying what's going to happen to my life and if I let go of these standard traditional ways that the beaten path that people are walking what will become of me is a great fear or what will happen am I stepping off into the unknown will I be cared for that's part of the reason why we share these miracles and parables in our community is because we've had a boatload full of them over the years and we share them amongst ourselves and that's helped all of us to continue to take these steps since you have something so morning hearing what we just shared in terms of miracles and this has been kind of going on in my head as well you touched on it yesterday that healing only happens once you don't have to keep repeating your healing if you have trust in God or trust in Holy Spirit but in life I observe the symptoms still continue you know like in a particular relationship or particular situation you have done healing as per the course but the symptoms still continue of that particular event or behavior or situation so is that mean if you are in a joyful mood or as you just described that if you are in a joyful and the time collapses and the reason the symptoms continue and they are not the miracle is not happening according to me therefore I am talking about from my personal experience more healing maybe the previous one hasn't worked or go to another retreat another course and I need to keep doing this so my question is if the symptoms in life continue then I am not joyful or my time is not collapsing or there is something not happening otherwise I should also have like big G time should collapse if what you are sharing is right then so can you explain a bit more on that why the symptoms continue or if the healing only happens once I want to understand a bit more about that Yes well the miracle is that time collapses and and ultimately the atonement is the atonement is the correction and it is described by Jesus as the first miracle and the last miracle and all the miracles in between so that is your big A we talk about the big G the big A, the big atonement which is really the goal of the course is it is synonymous with self realization or enlightenment in which the mind has pulled its attention away from appearances so it is not going to be capable of judging some appearances as symptoms and some appearances as not as healthy because it is a merge it is a unification of perception in which all things are simultaneous and all things are healed in that simultaneous holistic perception so when we talk about symptom removal whenever you are focusing in on objects or people or places or things that is still the ego there are some great parts in the workbook that basically talk about the sickness is when you start to pull apart away from the hole and give it a name that is a very deep description for example if I try to pull this glass of water out of the entire cosmos of time and space pull it out as if it is an individual object and then give it a name glass of water that is the separation you see it is the mechanism of trying to pull apart from the hole that is the sickness symptoms are more like overlays some of us grew up in education we had a lot of education and this thing is called overhead projectors remember the overhead when you go and you sit in the theater and they turn it on and then they start with these overlays all it really is is bright light just shining and reflecting back on to the wall or the screen and then you can add overlays overlays so symptoms on a body you might think first about putting a little caricature of a body on there it is just a screen it is just an image it is just a shadow and then you could draw a little thing maybe like a little blood get a little red marker out and make a little sore a little blood dripping off there and then you draw it on there and you overlay it so all these are just like overlays that are just images there isn't really a sickness there the light is not sick but when we start to overlay in our mind all these concepts so we end up with shadows on the screen and we believe that they are real so the body can't really be sick it is completely neutral to the Holy Spirit and it is completely unknown to God and that is why people have even misinterpreted the story of Jesus they think wow Jesus Christ he reached a state of perfect enlightenment and self-realization and then he went around healing the sick raising the dead and then at the end it turned into a bloody mess to use the British phrase it is a bloody mess on the cross there is blood leaking all over the place there is nails and spikes and arms and legs and blood and crown and blood dripping off the forehead and over the ears vinegar the soldier and then eventually with this thing going on finally a spear stabbed up into Jesus's ribs and more blood you can imagine it was quite a bloody scene for one who self-realized for one who knows himself as the Christ people have said to me what happened to Jesus at the end he manifested a lot of symptoms a lot of symptoms on the cross that was just part of a teaching device the mind is not in the body he had no guilt he was incapable of sickness he was incapable of suffering so that's why the Christians typically got it wrong upside down they thought that Jesus suffered and died on the cross for the sins of mankind that doesn't say much about God if God permitted his beloved son to suffer and die now the rest of us are supposed to be free of that because God was savaged with one son now he's going to be nice to the rest you know if I won't crucify you you can just take you in the end it doesn't make any sense it's just like with Yogananda it would be impossible to believe that Yogananda and his final meal what he's talking to his apostles before he laid the body and the world aside was suffering he was in bliss Ramana Maharshi maybe his body looked thin but if you've seen pictures at the very end his eyes are like glowing brighter than those two light bulbs back there I'm looking at those two light bulbs his eyes were brighter than those light bulbs and the body was very frail and skinny and so on and so forth so what it means is we can't really interpret anything from the form if we're looking to form to inform us not good we are never going to experience the miracle, the time collapse we are never going to be experiencing healing if we're looking to the form to tell us and inform us about healing and that's why when Jesus is asked should healing be repeated and he's saying if you doubt if you doubt a healing you have great need to come back inside and come back to the Lord come back to the miracle because it's perception if you're perceiving something that doesn't seem to be healing then you're misperceiving it's basically what he's saying so the serenity prayer from 12 Steps is very good is of course the miracles summarized there's things that you can't change there's things that you can't change and then the Holy Spirit is the wisdom and the difference you can't change the world but you can't change your mind about the world and when you change your mind that mind is healed and looks upon a healed world it won't matter what the world events are people will say we have bombs dropping over Megasaki and Hiroshima does that kind of pull you out for a bit or World War II Invasion and Normandy and all the catastrophic kind of events tsunami meltdown, nuclear meltdown in Tokyo and near Japan all of that is just perception and it's all part of fragmented perception when you come into a healed mind everything is unified so you perceive everything and everyone in that unified perception very much like Jackie there wasn't a whole lot of words to describe that but how you take everything with you it's not like you leave anything behind in that unification you see that everything not only you take it with you everything is with you is you that's so different from our human perspective and we think that we just have a tiny little piece of consciousness that's in the body and for most people if you ask of where is your consciousness located many people will you point to their heart or point to a part that's behind their eyeballs and in between their ears they feel like well I'm looking out at a world so I think there's something in there behind the eyeballs and I'm hearing a lot of world and so many people perceive that consciousness is the brain and is literally inside and behind those eyes and in between those ears but no, consciousness is so vast and all it takes is one good out of body experience which people will come up to me and they'll go David I was gone from my body and I say tell me about it I was up in the corner of the room and I was watching my body from the top of the room with the eyeballs really big I said what did you do I know I tried to swim back but I couldn't swim because I didn't have any arms I was trying to swim back but I could I got to get back in there this is not good I should be in that body I shouldn't be up here at the corner of the room I said so you could see the body yes did you have any eyeballs up there in the corner of the room no could you hear the body yes I could hear everything happening in the room did you have little ears up there in the corner no could you smell yes I could smell I had all my five senses but you didn't have any fingers no ears no eyes no eyeballs so I say to them what does that teach you that my consciousness and my perception through the five senses is not in the body oh I say what an awareness you have there let's go explore that a little bit so you see without eyeballs yeah it was amazing I could see everything so clearly I could hear without ears and eardrums you smell without a nose what does that tell you that the five senses are not in the body they're in my consciousness doesn't that contradict our earthly human experience where we so associate those things with different objects that are part of the body the ego has tricked us into thinking that we're in a body we aren't even in a body so when you look at all that you can see that if I start to look at symptoms and I say oh this is red or this is bleeding this is not good those are just interpretations when I started to join with Jesus I started to feel such happiness and joy and feel this expansive state of mind and start to feel the glee and joy that I wasn't located in time and space that I wasn't actually even in this body and we talked about that at the end of the movie the other day where it's like what if what if we'd ever even existed before this moment how profound it is so this is very profound and the way you can tell that you're in that state of mind is by your reactions watch your feelings watch your emotions there was time years ago where I went to brush teeth and I went and I put the toothpaste on and I went and I went I put the toothpaste in my mouth and I went I brushed my teeth and then I went to rinse and I spit out into the sink and all this blood came out into the sink and I remember looking down and going it was so pretty it was so pretty the bright red wasn't the toothpaste now a doctor would say that is not good blood should stay in the body if it comes out of your nose if it comes out of your mouth your ear urinary tract not good urine yes blood no when you spit out of the mouth blood red is bad bad color panic terror problem I was like it's so pretty I stopped brushing my teeth it was like the sink was lit up with red and I was like wow I had done a painting I'm not even a painter but I had painted a beautiful red painting and then I just continued to rinse and went on my day because because again that's an example from a worldly perspective it's like going there's a symptom it's an out of patterned experience you're not supposed to have red coming out of the mouth that's a bad thing but from the higher perspective it was more like a child like sense of wonder and you know how children are when they do something when they poop on the carpet and they're just so happy playing with it and mushing it around and then you see the parent going ah that's a white carpet god you know these are the kind of things that happen because there's a different perception going on there from the child with the poo and the parent and the poo and the white carpet there's a big difference because of what? because of conditioning the child's like cool this is cool I have not seen this before I like this I'm going to enjoy this and the parent's like work all they see is work the child sees play the parent sees work it just shows you we need lots of examples of variable perception to realize wow I am responsible for what I see I'm the one who's interpreting that and I would be the one that would interpret a symptom Jesus wasn't interpreting spikes going into arms and legs as something significant because the teaching device had been used as a communication device especially those three years of public ministry healed the sick raised the dead all the sermons, sermon on the mouth all these great sermons he left, he was friendly he had a great time those three years of public ministry it's like taking a sweater off you know and the ego makes a big deal about taking that sweater off he died on the cross he bled he suffered for the sins of all mankind he was like please he took a sweater off early Gnostics they had Jesus off on another mount sitting on another mount laughing at the whole whole scene because the early Gnostics had part of their theology that the world wasn't real so this was a very different perception of the crucifixion than many that were watching and then for subsequent thousands of years people have perceived the crucifixion as a time of suffering but not the early Gnostics they hit him symbolically off laughing at the whole thing like amused by the scene so that's the answer right there we need to be lifted up to a higher perspective when this heart started slowing down after years of mind training with the course of miracles the experience was different than you might expect than a human perspective of a heart stopping that seems more like described as more of a heart attack whereas this was not there wasn't an attack in that perception if I am still writing information from that form that continues to then put onus back on me that I am still looking at it from an unhealed mind perspective and you are telling me that if I am observing that then I need to go back what Jesus tells me to go back into my own mind and get connected with Jesus and be joyful and stop getting that information from that form because I am seeing it separate from me that's what I am getting from what you are telling me my next question comes and this is where I get confused in the course as well if that's the case why does course take us from time to time your brother and it appears as if when it talks my brother is separate from me for example there is one of the lessons we say your lesson for today is in the situation involving dash dash dash in the situation involving with so and so then there is nothing my holiness cannot do something of that and then you repeat that during the day and you put some names instead of putting name why doesn't it say in a situation involving with your own unhealed mind why it seems to me at times it takes me to duality and at times it brings me back to the non duality and when you say that you then try to bring a picture of that brother or that name or something so why does Jesus does that then why doesn't it always say it's your mind, it's your unhealed mind where the brother brother doesn't exist then the course is written it's a big book it's like it's like to make an effective pathway to God it's almost like the course is like a ladder so here's a deceived mind that believes in separate things in separate people, places, objects and it's more like Jesus is like lowering a ladder down into this mind and he's saying grab a hold anywhere you can grab the bottom or grab anywhere grab the ladder anyway almost like if you were drowning in the ocean and somebody threw you a rope would you be debating whether to take the knot on the end or would you be debating which part of that rope should I get or would you just go for anything that happened to go by where you could get a hand on it that's kind of the way the course is so it's just symbolically like a ladder he's like grab anything many people we can say from the perspective of the ego there are many different levels of awareness and we know that so it's not in reality but it seems that way in the dream so it really is just written and so when he's saying your brother or you and your brother already he's generalizing to use brother instead of brother and sister there was a time the whole thing seems to be a correction of like a patriarchal masculine masculine pronouns and all this system is there so he's correcting it using that language and then when he dictated the song of prayer to Helen Shekman who's a female he started using sister he goes all seven years with masculine pronouns and then all of a sudden sister, she, her he flips Jesus flips to the feminine in the song of prayer almost like saying oh yeah it doesn't matter there is no really masculine so it really depends on your level of awareness if you're reading the course and those parts of about brother are still having a connotation of flesh or something like that then you begin to transcend that you don't have that doesn't have any meaning for you I had a girlfriend years ago who studied the course and she came to me one day after years of working with the course and she just started laughing at this you and your brother stuff she said I'm past that now and I said great because it was in mind she didn't have to try to interpret a meaning onto you and your brother that was just one of those little rungs there there's even a part of the course where it says God is lonely without you now that, you know that that's not literally true and then there's another part that said God weeps God weeps divine love weeps you know but for someone maybe who's coming from Christianity and they're picking up and they're scared of the course and everything and they're shaking when they're reading the book God weeps he cares about me God loves me you see how the interpretation of God weeps could actually be very comforting for someone who's very terrified that God cares about me it's all just interpretation so you're on the right path right now and basically it's like you can just start to realize you have to kind of pray for Jesus to give you the interpretations that are helpful and you start to let go of some of that literal stuff you and your brother you've just talked a lot about the body and the symptoms but could you please you said the cat ran under the car and then you did not take her to the vet but you used the power of the mind and the leg came back together can you please talk more about that you're talking about Mo Mohandas K. Gandhi my cat well everything in my perception is a reflection of my mind so you've heard of animal communicators that communicate with animals we had kind of a relationship where we were mind trained together we're mind training partners and we're coming into this state of mind to see that everything is a decision of the mind nothing happens from the world it's just an interpretation and so Mo and I were meditation partners mind training partners and then when cats don't usually go out for a walk but I didn't have a leash and he decided to go for a walk with me then he ran in front of the car and then the car tire seemed to go over his hind leg and then he was dragging the leg and off to the side of the road and up under a bush so when I came to him I was communicating him with my heart with my mind like both of us had let go of looking for intervention from from medicine and doctors and veterinarians we'd already transcended that point and so we had our communication about the mind and it was all very telepathic and everything and I said I'll go and get help to come and to bring the body back to the house but that was just with Mo I also had this with my tripod where tripod was adopted and she was a tiny little three-legged kitten she was born with three legs and when she came into my peace house and over the years we she had, what is it, spayed or neutered or spayed and after that we were just communicating by mind and she was like listen that's enough of that I am not wanting anything like that again, it was a medical procedure she said I want to let's go without the medical procedure so they said alright so I made a contract with her in my mind and I would never take her to the vet with her ever this was part of our mind training and at one point I remember coming home and there was a man named Jeffrey who was living in the peace house I think Kirsten was living there at the time and I walked in the door and I heard this blood curdling scream just this scream going on and I said what's going on in here and it was tripod I think Jeffrey has decided to put some if cats have fleas that you can put this kind of gooey insect repellent medicine on them he had tried to put this medicine on tripod a direct violation of our sacred contact and it would sound like a rape or a murder happening as I'm walking in this three legged cat is screaming and I'm going what is going on I went up there and they said we're putting we're trying to put medicine on to help her with the fleas and I said oh she does not want anything like that we've been through this before mentally and so basically that was part of her teaching contribution too was teaching that you can live your life free of medicines that was her contribution later on one time her eye started to turn crazy colors yellow all kinds of colors and it got strange she looked like a pirate if she was a pirate we would have put a patch over her little eye but it just started to do crazy things and one of my friends came over who was an animal lover who had started an animal clinic and she came in and tripod hopped with her three legs over to her and looked her in the eye with this pirate eye and the woman about freak she's like oh my god the cat's sick and I was just looking at her with this bright yellow eye almost something out of like a star tracker episode or something when you go to a planet she was just like please please let me take her to the vet at least let me buy medicine for her eye and I just smiled I said you have no idea you will not be able to get that medicine on her she's taken a vow she's taken a vow she's not going to a vet and she's definitely not going to have anything to do with any medicine you get because it was all her perception of the symptom that tripod was sick she was like I can't stand to look at her and oh my god and I want to do something to help her and you know all those perceptions and interpretations so no no she won't allow it she's taken a vow eventually Pam came back in a few weeks and the eye had changed back to the regular color and tripod was just looking at her like is there a problem like you know or maybe even thank you for honoring my vow it was just used for teaching purposes but it was just an appearance so that's pretty much the way it went with Mo it was like I didn't perceive that there was a problem and you know I fed Mo and Mo he kind of looked like Walter Brennan wanted this guy a TV series that would hobble around and limp around we all got used to Mo just hobbling around the leg was never set there was no cast we did nothing absolutely nothing that would be a veterinarian would say you had to do and eventually Mo started moving around faster and faster chasing other cats made a full recovery but it's a state of mind you know when we're in the ego we're so used to thinking in terms of causes and effects if you run over a leg we would say medical science, veterinarians would say you've got to do something to that leg you can't just pray but actually that was our strategy it was just prayer Christian Science they've had cases of basically I say with Christian Science it's just pray first Mary Baker was so aware of the power of the mind there's no mind in matter amazing things happen but they actually had cases where through some sort of accident a limb an arm had to be amputated and basically through the power of prayer the entire arm was regenerated the entire arm was regenerated they didn't have to try to do a transplant the power of the mind literally regenerated the arm after the amputation and when you these are documented cases in Christian Science so once you start to open your mind to that then you start to go whoa I need to put my care and attention on my mind training because Jesus tells us only the mind can be sick he never once says the body can be sick in the Course of Miracles and he even goes so far to say don't ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body he says that in the Course ask the Holy Spirit to heal your perception of the body that's right there just that one line don't ask the Holy Spirit to heal the body if you want to do much care and attention he wants you to put in your mind training and how little you know still be practical if you feel to brush your teeth you feel to bathe if you what you feel guided to eat then eat follow that guidance that's part of your mind training you still be very intuitive and follow what you feel intuitively but don't put such care and concern out onto the body and the world it's actually the world is an unreal effect of an unreal cause and the unreal cause is the ego it can't really make anything because it doesn't have a parent so it can't really make anything so if I see another so if I see another with an illness my sister suffers from Alzheimer's um my question is and I think that's what I understand from the course that I just see her whole I don't see but is that a violation not to see Alzheimer's do I look at her how do I see her as I do I do I my question how do I see her what is the course asking me to do well the point that you perceive is it comes from an interpretation and if Jesus and the Holy Spirit are wanting to to lift the mind and to higher and higher interpretations then you could say that first of all we'll say perceiving your sister as you're perceiving her as part of a dream just like if let's say if your sister you went to sleep at night and your sister was in your dreams at night you would say oh I saw my sister we see her in the daytime we see her at the nighttime it's a dream either way a lot of people who get into dreams they get into dream symbols like what does it mean what if you saw your sister in a dream and she had Alzheimer's a dream analyst might say what does that mean for you your sister has Alzheimer's in the dream you see it's the dream analysis is starting to look at the meaning or what color was this you know green is supposed to represent but the challenge for me is how to be present with her and then what is the most helpful way to be present with my sister what is the most helpful for my vision and in a way you can say she's just the subject of my vision that somehow that feels rather heartless well why don't you be quite honest and look at your just as your emotions for example at some point my grandmother was diagnosed who seemed to be legally blind with breaking blood vessels in the eyes where she lost her vision she could see objects vague blurred objects moving but she seemed to lose her sight and then at some point she was diagnosed with dementia so we're talking about Alzheimer's dementia and part of that was that she had lost her short term memory she had some long term memory she could remember songs from her childhood and everything but she could tell you who she had lunch with or what had happened during the day or anything like that her short term memory was gone but for me I see everything is just a reflection of my mind she had dementia the world would say that she was forgetting aspects of her identity and also her family's identity her memory people the world would say her memory was failing her that there was a memory problem going on I was there to extend the light and love and joy and we always had a very deep loving connection but it was beyond the words we talked about and so when I would go and visit her they had her in a wheelchair and I would push her I would push her around in the wheelchair and oh we would have go-how all these holding encounters and she was so loving and so friendly and there was no sense of her even saying something to me until at times she would turn and she would go Dave is that you we were having so much fun and for as far as she was concerned it was a man pushing her there was no what I can hear is don't buy into the fear of it and be the joy just the joy that you have with her just be the joy that you have be the joy appreciate the joy the same thing happened with her her son my biological father he got more into the joy of going to nursing homes and just feeling happy and sharing that happiness with different people in the nursing homes and that's really our function we're always teaching by our attitude we're not here to be diagnosticians we're not here to try to figure something out we're actually here to be the presence of love and to experience all these beautiful reflections of that I do actually when I go I feel quite happy to be in her presence but then I think what am I supposed to say nothing unless you're guided yeah right okay there's hands going up everywhere but this is convenient I'm convenient I like to be convenient when you were talking about cause and effect and I I always get a real racing of my heart wanting to share when the Holy Spirit wants me to share something but I also sometimes have that battle of cause I'm sharing it is there any ego in that because I want to share something and that's I just wanted to sort of put that out there that that's my battle of him I think teaching me to speak when he wants me to speak and not coming from the ego but I've sort of been really wanting to share an example of that he's shown me since we were at the retreat when you were talking about cause and effect yesterday and I've sort of had a whole day of watching myself walk through the day and just waiting for his leading whether it be stopping and pausing for a few moments and just had so many miracle moments happen and one of those where we were Dale and I were led to going to town and we ended up at a cafe having coffee to have some sharing time together and we were talking about cause and effect and I was looking across at the waitress behind the counter thinking well I'll use her as an example like if she spilled a drink on me you know and the reactions and that and then as we were talking I felt a drink spill on me and I looked up and there's that dark head waitress who just spilled a drink on me and I'm like that's never happened in my life I've never even seen it happen and as she's sort of freaking out and grabbing the cloths and everything and as she goes to grab the cloth I said Dale you know and I told her what I was thinking and what I was going to share and by the time she came back we're giggling her heads off and I'm so sorry and I said it's okay it's my fault you know it's my fault because Dale was saying yeah the power of the mind and all of this and I'm just oh my god wow and that was such a lovely experience in itself but when we went to leave I could see that she was behind the counter and she wasn't going to look at me she was looking down and I just felt I said thank you so much for spilling that drink on me we were just talking about examples of cause and effect and I went into it and she just lit up and I just reached out to hug her just not even thinking and it was just one of those I don't know it was like a collapsing experience but also after the event going through that in my mind that struggle of do I share that how do I share that is this sort of open to share everything or is this the ego telling you share something can you sort of talk about that a bit about when to share and how to share and if the ego steps in yeah it's really that's a very subtle question but really is still a version of the workbook lesson I will step back and let him lead the way that it's a lifelong journey of discernment and what I can't point to is where is all the heading because that can be helpful where it's all heading is to get so relaxed so peaceful and so relaxed that this should I do or should not question starts to fade away because you start to realize that miracles are involuntary Jesus says and should not be under conscious control and when we're debating should I have said something there or not and the mind can spin on that for a long time it can go back and forth I could have said no that was the spirit, no it wasn't the ego that was I was inspired, no you weren't it's pretty wacky in there and sometimes it's a whole committee you've got a whole committee like oh oh there's a whole committee going on in there should I have said it? oh no the committee goes oh no that was ego but ultimately the more you relax in it and the more you can just let the miracle come through everything becomes involuntary and it starts off where you start to see the miracle is involuntary the divine ease that comes with it and then the more you become habitually miracle-minded habitually right-minded you think oh my gosh this whole world is involuntary you take it away from pressuring like yourself around conscious choices because as you don't hide and protect anything your subconscious becomes conscious and as you keep doing that fully conscious isn't that a wonderful idea like you're fully conscious and then if you're fully conscious who in their right mind who fully conscious would choose to be sick nobody nobody in their right mind would choose to be sick sickness is always some kind of subconscious sabotage attempt that you're not aware of so that's the beauty of this life it becomes easier and easier when you start to realize it's all involuntary and that those struggles go away when you start to realize you're just beholding you're smelling the roses you're watching the flow of everything and just appreciating everything just watching and appreciating in practical terms I just say do it and watch you know if people's eyes start today's over stop look at that look okay we have questions here, there there we'll take note there's hands going up all over the place here I just wanted to share something very quickly and then ask you a question at the end many years ago when I was working in the hospitals on ward around one time there was this elderly man who had dementia and he had completely lost his short term and his medium term memory he only had his long term memory anyway he was a widower his wife had died probably 8 or 10 years ago and every morning he would wake up and say to the nursing staff where's Gladys and they would say Gladys died 8 years ago and I witnessed this on more than one occasion where his face would be shock, horror he'd be overcome with grief and sadness and sob and sob for a long time until he forgot what was said and then he'd be happy again and after nearly a week of this I sent the nurse can you please tell the staff just say she's gone down to the shop to get milk or she's out hanging washing on the line so that's what they did and then he stayed in his happy state and to me it's an example of the point of powers in the present in fact there is only the present moment and all that suffering that happened allegedly so many years ago he was reliving that because now this is only present moment because he lost his memory so that was just a little example about time and present moment but my question to you when you said the people were praying about the amputee do you happen to know were they praying for the arm to regrow or just for the will of God to be done can you imply that if there's someone in our life or that we know of that is say, terminally ill with cancer and unconscious can we pray for them for a particular outcome or do we just make it a more open that you will be done or does the prayer have to come from the individual and if they're unconscious what can we do in that situation in our lives where people we know will care about a terribly ill as we perceive to be terribly ill well the most effective thing again, if you would talk to like Mary B. Grady or a Christian science practitioner no they're not praying for the specifics they weren't praying for the arm they weren't going come on come on Jesus let's do it let's manifest an arm here where there isn't one that doesn't work that way you go into the glory the wholeness of love God, you go into the gratitude and thankfulness there's no mind and matter there's no life, truth, substance intelligence and matter people say well what about breathing there's no life and matter we you know it's a joyful experience and any metaphysical practitioner would tell you that you soar up in the fact and that's a fact you soar up into the spiritual fact and then you've done your part and it's always for we'll say for ones on mind you're not you're not really like praying for others you're just connecting with source is all it is and you could say well what kind of words would I use to connect with source take your pick the course workbook is full of them I Am As God Created Me is a great prayer to go into you see there's no specifics in that it's not I Am As God Created Me and can I have an arm you know it's I Am As God Created Me and going into the glory of that and also I think it's recognizing the power of the power of thought right before today's election day in the United States and right before I came here I saw a little Facebook post and it was Barack Obama telling a story of one of the worst days of his life when he was a senator where he was on his flight and the flight got in really late and he drug himself through the airport he said got his luggage and he made it to the place where he was going to stay and just as he was just ready to nod off one of his assistants came to him and said remember we got an early morning appointment you've got to get up we had six o'clock in the morning and he was not feeling good and then when he got up he got showered he got the shave he got ready for the appointment on very few hours of sleep and he went out and he looked out and it was just pouring down rain he was raining and he was like so he went out and the wind blew his umbrella and just destroyed his umbrella and so he got all wet and then when he got in the car he was soaking wet and he was just like oh and he did say that he got a newspaper and there was some negative article in the New York Times or something about him on that day then his umbrella the wind destroyed that and then he got soaking wet when he got in the car he said I think it was South Carolina how far do I have to go to this early morning meeting it was like an hour and a half drive an hour and a half and soggy socks and clothes it's a bad day and it was turning into a bad bad bad day the next day and he was going so he finally gets to this hall and he's looking around he's come all this way got up in the morning he's had a terrible day and it was like 15 people and they're looking at him like what are you doing here they're not happy to see him he's having a bad day they're kind of looking at him they're not even happy to be there's a rainy day it's wet it's just a bad bad bad day all around and then he started talking and everything and he said then some lady in the back just starts piping up and she starts saying fire up he's sitting there in his wet clothes people are looking at him he's gone it's bad night, bad day it's early morning fire up she keeps saying fire up and then the people go fire up she says fire up and he's thinking they're crazy they're crazy they're yelling fire up fire up and then finally he goes fire up and then she goes are you ready fire up are you ready they go fire up are you ready he's just like thinking what are you doing here he said but as the meeting went on it just kept happening this is what the meeting was fire up are you ready he said as he sat there in the worst he started to go he said I started to feel fired up and he starts chanting in right with him fire up are you ready and so he was using this to make the point that even if you're having one of the worst days possible if somebody there has a spark it can change the whole room and then he went on to say it could change a whole state it can change a whole country it can change the whole world one person holding this thought she was just yelling fire up are you ready or something for that effect he loved it he had a great time he forgot all about the soggy clothes and everything else it turned it around and that's what we're called to do take it's thought system and to join with the vibrancy all that love and joy and give ourselves over to it and we're told it will change not only our perception of the world but it will change everything it will change our mind we will literally rise above and transcend sickness and death through the power of our mind just giving ourselves over to this thoughts isn't that wonderful as you can people talk about being saviour of the world not you personally saviour of the world but to have your mind be the salvation of the universe you know that's exactly what this is calling us to to give ourselves fully over to I am the light of the world the light has come to to being in a mind level the saviour of the world we're not talking persons the persons go out and they're on the street corner they say I am Jesus Christ or I am the reincarnation of Jesus we're not talking that we're talking at the mind the mind becoming clear pristine clear free of guilt free of judgment glorious that's everything that's what this is all about and that's really the way we're to think of it if we had somebody that we perceive that we perceive as sick we have to come back to go there is another way of looking at this I don't have to hold on to this tiny interpretation that the ego is giving me because there's something much more glorious and I'm entitled to that glorious perception I'm entitled to miracles and to call on the miracle we just need to get into the habit of doing that and of course all of us have doubts like miracle worker me I remember saying that to Jesus at one point I said to Jesus I said do you really think that I'm qualified to be a miracle worker I said to Jesus and he said your qualifications do not matter I will perform miracles through you and I am ready and it turns the conversation around from am I qualified am I ready and him saying I am ready now and I will do them through you but my miracles cannot come through if you have doubt even if for an instant you can suspend your fear and doubt I will perform the miracles through you and they will convince you that you will have that happen more and more and more but it's Jesus who's doing the miracles there's not a human being doing a miracle Peter's got something over there just a small one mate you used the term a little just in that lovely story about the black he said he dragged himself through the airport and I think in America you used the term drug as a past tense or drug as a past tense for drag did you mean he dragged himself through the airport what did you mean he dragged he dragged I love that little twist here it's a drug to be drug along whatever yeah it changes a little bit that story he was like tired he was struggling to get his luggage that's it David would you just clarify the two terms mind and consciousness is it a different thing is consciousness different from mind thank you yeah the way Jesus uses consciousness it's the domain of the ego so so you might say in heaven there is no consciousness in the way Jesus uses it in the Course that's an invention of the ego and how can we even tell that it's involved with the ego is because throughout the 60's and 70's we talked about raising your consciousness and levels of consciousness ooh I want to go to higher levels if it involves raising if it involves levels it's definitely still involved in the ego because the spirit is just this absolute perfect oneness there aren't levels of spirit spirit is what is and so mind is described in a lot of different ways but it's described as the activating agent of spirit and it's described as if it has two parts and he puts as if in italics in the clarification of terms in the wrong mind and so basically that's using mind in terms of your thought system are you thinking with God or are you trying to think against God which wrong mind is trying to think against God but mind is also used as mind of God mind of Christ so it's you might say in its pure state it's abstract and consciousness is not abstract and consciousness can be trained so the goal of the course and forgiveness that's all within training the mind to go higher and higher in consciousness to become fully conscious or to have unified awareness which is the tippy top that's where you start to go beyond consciousness entirely yeah until you're ready for the final step or the leap which is really just a way of saying creation because God doesn't really take steps either that's the metaphor but it's basically saying oh you're ready to forget consciousness and remember God at that point it's not like there's a step somewhere in the future it's more that that divine light is what creation is and once consciousness becomes so purified that you're just ready to actually forget, have amnesia and forget the ego and remember the light remember God okay we're probably winding down but I think Elf and Pam I've seen hands going up but mainly Elf will be the last question yeah we could talk after Elf's question we'll talk about that I just wanted to share a miracle about six, five years ago Sue introduced me to the founder of the beautiful little bigger heart song choir and I wept when I met him and it was the most beautiful feeling to belong to that lovely choir but it was just before Christmas and I didn't have time to learn the magnificent all the words of that that was to be presented that night because I was new, people were helpful but in the cloisters out before the concert took place the spiral binding came off my folder the pages all sort of got mixed up and unfortunately I was caught and I had to be in the front row of that choir and for this Christmas concert there was the highlight of the year there was I unable to sort of maintain my part and learn my words or what was coming out of my mouth I felt was sort of confused and I really felt as I let the pages all by now all loose and they dropped to the floor and that I had really let that choir down when later we had assembled in the hall for supper I was quite miserable and I caught the eye of the driver, the carpool driver and she said yes we were nearly ready to go and I moved towards the conductor and I said to Jeffrey I want to say happy Christmas but what came out of my mouth was can we sing only in God and he looked at me and he said do you mean in God alone it's a taste I challenge and I said yes and he said I don't have my recorder and somebody I think of as his wife he handed him the recorder he put his wine and his biggie down and we started another alto and myself we started without part of in God alone and the whole choir came to surround us and him and everybody singing as they came so all of a sudden it felt as though it was so magnificent and when then I made my way to Jeffrey after it there was this silence and wonder and so forth and he said thank you for joining our choir and it just felt as though the miracle had happened and it was just so amazing because I can still hear them all as they are coming there's a problem, there's an abasis and the tennis and all the rest of the altos and that was just so wonderful that's great in God alone there is no past everything was wiped completely beautiful well I just wanted to mention at the very end here before we get off ready to go to lunch that just to welcome your participation in Living Miracles Australia down here I started coming here as I mentioned first in New Zealand then over to Australia I think it was around 2004 and came for seven consecutive years and I've been here twice now this year in 2016 but really this is a time of like we have fertilized and we've prepared the soil and we've been planting seeds and it feels like there's just this has been a great gift and a great extension and so just you coming to participate and be here with me and be here with us is just such a huge gift that we can all share this together a whole week together it seems amazing and the beat goes on I just want you to feel a warm warm welcome to participate in Living Miracles Australia because it's very dear we end up being mighty companions or as they say down here mighty mates you're part of the mighty mates to here to support each other but it's a very very deep journey and as we go deeper it gets more uncompromising where we feel we don't want to we don't want to harbor any ego thoughts we don't want to harbor any doubts any fears we're here to support each other and I feel the strength of that support and really that's that's what draws our community together that's what drew Francis and I to come on our world tour from China and Japan to come down here is it's your calling in the calling of your heart that's really drawn us together like this this is like a quantum moment where it seems like there's a group of people in a beautiful room here but it's actually a reflection of our mind's desire for awakening that this is a reflection of our mind's desire for awakening and I want you to keep drawing that forth and keep calling it forth a lot of times as we start to wind down towards the end of a seven day retreat there will start to be more questions like how can I keep the fire bright in my heart how can I keep myself aligned how can I stay strong and that was very much a part of Michael sharing all the resources it's fun for me to know of all of the resources to know the community that's here to know all that's available for all of you because it's huge online we've just for many years I've just put a lot of stuff and we make it freely available and Sarah reminded me I guess in the last several months she said David all the stuff we put up is available free we just have some sites where they're like time savers where you can zoom into the free stuff faster and so it helped we have subscriptions and things like that to help maintain it but it's just a way of saving time and just avail yourself of it when I traveled in the early years I would just go from place to place and I would go to gatherings like this and rejoice and then people would say to me do you have any like materials or resources and I'd say no just my happiness and I would say and I'm off to the next one so there was nothing really to follow up with it we didn't have internet back in the early days I would go and we had phone booths back in those days where you put coins in phone booths I would call people on putting coins in phones in phone booths and there was nothing like that now we have so many different symbols and resources and things are available so I just say take advantage of them and for some they come in they learn about it through like YouTube's but there's a lot there's so much that's available it's huge and there's nothing like the practical application so taking the lessons from the YouTube's and from the audio's and putting them into practice that's the only way that things will change I know after David's visit and after I'd been to the peace house and a devotional in Kentucky M&T the mystical mind training program was just getting launched and I'd been a part of some of building that and that was the Holy Spirit in my computer I was alone in New Zealand really there wasn't anyone who wanted to go to the depth that I did and I was ready to just move with it and start as a symbol to let go of relationships and the world and as a symbol everything has been given over and I still work on giving over the mind fully because however far we think we are there's a point of humility you get to a stepping stone you feel comfortable on it you share it, you feel it and it's not a stopping place like you say you can't hang out on a rung and one of the things that gets you off that rung is to keep practicing practicing and being open and surrendered what do you have for me now what is it now and it will keep us moving long and that mystical mind training program I know at the time there was a question I would open my computer and the answer was right there it's practical there are assignments there are videos there are tasks to do which keep the mind focused on the spirit whatever you seem to be doing you can call on the spirit and in every moment when you have that support it's the mighty mate that's there we have community now come and stay with us you're invited we love it you're a gift to us whenever you come it's a divine divine place in the heart when you come and join us we love it so do know that we're here and that we invite you to come learn what we do come live with us just see how it works