 Live from San Juan, Puerto Rico, it's theCUBE. Covering Blockchain Unbound, brought to you by Blockchain Industries. Hello everyone, welcome back to our exclusive coverage here in Puerto Rico of Blockchain Unbound Global Conference with the leaders in the industry from entrepreneurs to investors and everything in between from San Francisco, New York, Miami, South Africa, Russia, all over the world are here in Puerto Rico. theCUBE's coverage, our next guest is Naomi Brockwell who is hosting the event here on stage. She's emceeing it all. You go to our YouTube channel slash Naomi Brockwell, check out our videos, host events all over the industry, Blockchain, celebrity, thought leader, futurist. What else are you? You're very, very kind, it's all not true, but I have been in the space for a while and I love Blockchain tech, so it's exciting to be here. Well, I'm really impressed why your stamina and passion on stage, what a lineup today, so give us the quick highlights. What happened today? We were here filming, what happened inside the venue? So some great talks come through there. Yeah, we saw some great ones. I mean, probably a highlight for me was seeing Elena, she was the former CEO of Satoshi Labs, which created Tracer, one of my favorite hardware wallets, by the way. And it was just great listening to her talk about security because that is something that is so important and people do not take seriously enough. Like I have people telling me, oh Naomi, I started up this wallet and I stood in my public, I was like, so did you write down your private key and all that sort of safe place? I was like, yep, it's in my Dropbox. And I'm like, no, what are you doing? This is no good. So hearing her basically say anything that has touched the internet ever, any device that has been on the internet ever is not secure, do not trust it. Like you need to use offline things. There's a lot of wallet grabbing going on digitally. That's come up, I saw some stuff on Telegram. People that we know are like, hey, beware, a lot of hacking out there. You've got to watch your coins. And also, I mean, there's just huge gains to be made, right? So it makes sense, especially if we expect the price of Bitcoin to go up, you have hackers just targeting specific wallets and specific vulnerabilities and they just keep going until they get through. So you've got to be vigilant and you've got to take every precaution possible. Is there a best practice that you've observed? Absolutely. So don't store anything online. And another thing people are telling me, yeah, I have my private key written down. I'm like, great, you wrote it down twice? They're like, yeah, I just printed that out twice. I'm like, no, your printer stores an image of everything you've ever printed out and it's connected to Wi-Fi at all times. That is going to be hacked. Do not print out your private key, your paper wallet, anything. You've got to write this down. So paper and pen is the best practice you can use. Going old school analog, big time. Absolutely. And it's not funny. Like you have this amazing new tech that's fantastic cutting edge and what are we doing to keep it safe? Pen and paper. Yeah, turn off all Wi-Fi. Put on some vinyl records. Exactly. The A-track recorder, going old school. Okay, I got it. But holding your own coins, holding your own money, having control of your own money, no one said that that's the easiest practice. They just said it was the most secure and is going to give you the most power over your funds. And so if you want to do that, there's a price to pay and that is being vigilant about your security. Well, one of the things that I'm interested in talking to you about is being someone who's present at creation of a big movement like this. You've seen the evolution. What's the growing pains in the industry? Because we're seeing a lot of the people who are the pioneers now, the people coming in. I won't call them tourists because they're still young and emerging. But you have a lot of, you know, get rich quick schemes. Those are obviously being filtered out pretty quickly by the community. But you're seeing, you know, new entrants come in. You got financing, you got big numbers coming in, big money. How has it evolved? I mean, what's your observation? How is it maturing? What's some of the vibe? You got some factions over here. You got some factions over there. People are still getting along. What's the overall sentiment? So I've been in this space for about five years. So in this industry, it's like being an absolute veteran. And what you've seen is it started out as this very libertarian space. People were interested in taking their money out of the control of government, in having more autonomy over their funds, having more control over their funds. And blockchain was invented as a tool for giving people more freedom. And what you've seen now is a bunch of people who've entered the space who don't necessarily share that ethos. But what I love about blockchain is that they're taking this technology that is inherently taking people towards a more decentralized, more free society. And they're applying it to all different industries. So my point of view, it doesn't bother me at all that the new entrants don't necessarily share this passion for freedom that the people who've been here since the beginning have. But the fact that they are taking this and making the world a more free place regardless is really exciting to me. And that's a really opportunity because inherently the ethos is blockchain. So it's not so much a political orientation or a list of rat, it's how you apply it. Exactly, exactly. And so blockchain being a decentralized ledger is great because when you decentralize any power structure, no matter what industry it is, I mean, you're really making people more free. You're giving them more responsibility. And I like seeing things become decentralized. Certainly we're a media company. We're kind of a new guard. We don't believe in a central gatekeeper. So I got to ask you the question as a YouTuber who has a big fan base in the community, it's really disheartening for me to see John Oliver take down Brock Pierce, although it was a hilarious video up until the point where he maliciously went after Brock in a very vicious way. How does one person have that power? I mean, it shouldn't be that way or the New York Times or a certain publication that they're the gatekeeper still. So we have a, I mean, that was an example. I looked at it and said, that's where blockchain can disrupt media. I mean, it's great comedy, but it kind of went over the top. I mean, he got fired by the EOS project. They wiped his name off everything. I mean, that's just, I mean, I just see that as a problem. You, what's your thoughts? When you say how do these people get there? Like John Oliver is a funny guy. I see how he got there. He's very talented. He has a great team, great writing, but that section, like I thought it was pretty spot on for most of the Bitcoin segment. It got to that section. I was like, oh, this is kind of sloppy research. So that was disappointing. I saw that Brendan Bluma had a nice response that he posted, he's the head of EOS. What did he say? He was just very funny and playful with John. So that was nice to see. He said him straight in terms of saying, like what does this technology enable? Well, he was basically arguing, blockchain doesn't go far enough. It doesn't fulfill the needs that I see in society. So I created this other thing, which does XYZ. And so he was authoritative in stating that no, you just don't understand the tech. And he basically clarified the Brock situation and said, no, actually having him involved was really great. He's not involved for various reasons. But yeah, it was an interesting segment. It was so funny at one point, I'm like, oh boy. I was enjoying it up till then. I was like, okay, this makes sense, you know. And then it gets up to that and I'm like, okay, this just became an ad hominem attack. This is a cheap throw. And people do that with Bitcoin. Since its inception, you've seen people and mainstream media in particular target Bitcoin and they're just adopting the government narrative saying, oh, everyone in this industry is corrupt. Oh, everyone in this industry is an ICO scammer. Oh, everyone in this industry is a drug runner and they're all selling drugs on the dark web. And it's like, you know what? Like you can do some research and do a bit better than that. So to see John Oliver perpetuating those ad hominem attacks was disappointing. But at the same time, we are seeing the narrative shift and you're seeing more news outlets become more positive about Bitcoin. Also the data is the self-government community has the data, the truth is going to get out there. That's the purpose of Bitcoin, Blockchain and crypto. You got consensus, you got algorithms, you got machine learning. Okay, cool. So what are you up to? You're getting exciting, a couple things going on. You got a lot going on. So take a quick minute to explain your big project. You are exciting, cool things, share it. Got some fun things going on at the moment. So while I'm not MCing like 20 to 40 Blockchain conferences a year, which is exciting, but takes up a lot of my time. I'm a television producer. I have my own show. It's a Bitcoin Blockchain tech based. And then on top of that, so I'm a film producer, television producer. We're working on a really exciting series right now. It's called the Hard Fork series. And it's this dystopian futures, the sci-fi thriller and 18 million, well, it's a large budget. And we have the guys from Ozark, Netflix originally. If you haven't seen it, you should see it. It's a great show. Christopher James Baker as our lead and the community support we have garnered for this project is great because we have not only Hollywood types, we're our directors and Sundance alumni. We've also got people in the crypto space who have a huge amount of credibility. We've got Bruce Benton, Jason King on our board of advisors, people who understand the space. So the community is excited about for the first time having a mainstream production that is being created with a large budget where people in the industry have control of the narrative. We haven't had control of the narrative yet. That's true. The government's still controlling it, mainstream media's still controlling it. And so to create a series that could potentially expose people to this technology for the first time and to have control of that narrative is exciting. So is it going to be inspirational? Is it going to be comedy? It's going to be gritty. It's a sci-fi thriller. We call it a crypto thriller noir. Is that not the best genre you've ever heard? It's pretty cool. So it's this idea that in the future, the government has their own blockchain and there's crypto coin that they have. It's all centralized and they control the populace with this augmented reality where everything is gamified. Basically the idea is the government's trying to distract people from important issues by gamifying everything. You have this group of renegades who comes in and they're like, no, we're going to decentralize this. And so they come and work their magic. Is Mr. Robot meets Black Mirror? Oh, yeah. Kind of thing going on. It's pretty great. Basically is a tale about the power of decentralization and how it can disrupt authoritarian rule, which I think is just a great topic for right now. And what's your background? Were you out of LA, New York? So I'm based in New York. My background actually, I was an opera singer. That's how I got here. I moved to New York as an opera singer and then pivoted into movie production and from there went on to television production and I got into the crypto space because I'm really interested in Austrian economics and love the philosophy that Bitcoin was created on. So it's been an interesting journey. You got addicted. You touched the way to the light. Yeah, I'm bringing everything together now with my Bitcoin economics-based crypto thriller noir. So it's pretty exciting right now. Well, I'm super impressed and congratulations on all your continued success. Great job MCing the blockchain on the bound. Great energy, great mine. Great to have you on theCUBE. Thanks for sharing. It's wonderful to be here. It's great to be here. Thanks for everything. I'm John Furrier. He had breaking down. We got all the action in Puerto Rico. Thought leaders, entrepreneurs, investors, people in the industry sharing their story, sharing the data with you. That's our mission. Thanks for watching day two tomorrow. We'll see you then.