 Off topic Tuesday is just gonna cover altered carvings. I finally got this guy to binge watch it I well Almost I binged most of it. He binged most of it binge watching the thing You just scratch off your day and say there's nothing going on today I'm just gonna watch a show from start to finish Well, and I will admit though This is a show that has a lot going on in it So I did have to kind of there were points. I had to go back and like wait a minute You know like something would happen that we kind of like wait a minute Who is that again or like, you know, what what is that? And so I'd have to kind of you know, go back and like kind of watch another like 10 minutes from like a Previous show episode or a previous in that episode or whatever. So, you know, I got he's a little methodical about it. I He's a writer. It's a writer. It's what I studied. I Study story. Yeah, so he's fascinated by the story now If you haven't seen the show spoiler alerts ahead Why don't watch it go binge watch it come back just pause binge watch come back It's only it's it's 10 episodes at like 10 hours. Not even that because it's like 45 an episode It's a little under 10 hours of your life. You won't regret that worth it. Yeah, so other things you can do for 10 hours However, and I'm sure we'll cover this don't get to like episode 5 and be like, oh, I totally figured it out I don't need to watch the rest of it because you didn't figure it out, right? I'm gonna tell you that you think you did you did not get episode 5 you figured it out You did not figure it out. So let's let's dive in there. So I'll do carbon in the series In maybe you'll still watch it even if you haven't watched it Maybe this is why you watch this and then you go chem I'll waste the however many minutes on these guys Talking about it, and then I can go waste time watching this. Yeah, really when you get down to it I mean, you know, but our vlogs go about a half hour So, you know, you've only got like 15 more minutes and you got an episode of Elzer Garvin. So yeah Yeah, you're all you just may as well just Broke it up so one. Yeah. The good news is that the action is fast-paced If you're looking for by the way, and I do this occasionally and I got to stop so I can enjoy a movie If you're looking for every little plot hole or saying that couldn't work Just don't watch those shows watch documentaries or something. I don't know Because that's I actually sometimes I catch myself doing it So you tried to overanalyze and take apart a movie and you realize the movie is there Do you enjoy it? So I Mentioned this guy because he started taking apart a couple plot holes And I got in me we're gonna talk about them because we still disassembled at least a few ways They maybe we're gonna armchair this as if we're producers and say we could have a better view On that writing staff. This is how we this is how we would have done it. Yeah, it's clearly someone's hired us to do that Maybe they will after seeing the brilliant insights that we give them on this vlog. Yes Now this is actually based on a book So if you're not familiar alter carbon knows a book written a few years back 2002 I think is when the book was ready to 2000 2002 yeah, so a few years back the written book and it's a this is an adaptation now normally an adaptation I'm I wanted to I didn't read the book So I didn't have any vested interest in this but you a lot of times hope they keep it to the original Especially if the book was really popular And there's very few times that occurs though Harry Potter is actually one of the few that and I didn't my daughter's had The books not me I'm lazy. I just like to watch the movie, but I understand that they kept very very close to the book Which is great. Yeah, it was a lot of other times. I've read the book and I don't read a lot of fiction But some of the ones I've read and I've watched the movies and I'm like, yeah, they really diverged But sometimes it's harder to tell in a Story, yeah, but I used to get like really upset if they if they went too far away from a book or whatever But then like I kind of had to realize They're two totally different mediums, right? Yes, it's it's it's printed word in a movie Like it's different languages that that's different storytelling methods. So you can't expect a movie To just be word-for-word verbatim what a book was work that way There's a very different structure to the way you present things and you can literally you're leaving everything through the imagination So I just got to put a big dome with lots of lights on it versus someone has to draw a big dome with lots of lights But There were some actually fundamental changes and I read I believe there's some director's notes I thought I'm pushing a link to it because I read it. I read it and then I didn't bookmark that and I can't find it But with the notes some of the notes and a change for the book were was the book Had a lot more killing Wait, I'm gonna screw up people's names. Yeah, my understanding is that the book was was much darker The book was much darker much, but also the the concept of Where's the guy's name and the show is pretty dark already? Yeah, yeah, but yeah, what things I was reading it said that Even like the world itself like the you know the world of the book itself was just a Griddy or more dystopian Yeah, more even it was pretty dark in the show. Yeah, so the entire concept is there's a Stack as it's referred to and the stack is inserted During like Rafter birth apparently I think it was like they said when kids are like a month old whatever it is Yeah, they insert this thing like a bris. Yeah But they're adding to now Different thing So the concept is your consciousness lives in there and therefore your body can be replaced in your consciousness lives on and they apply some of the problems we have with With disparity and wealth and things like that and they expand upon that what happens in the future Well only rich people can afford these perfect bodies and they become So wealthy that they are almost omnipotent because there's never anything a lot of times disruption and wealth happens when people die Or we see some of the wealthy people when they become at the Right-bold age of near death of 70 years old they become very heavy into philanthropy So me and Marvin were actually talking about this would this stop some of that So Bill Gates is someone who's been controversial of her some very cutthroat business practices He had he's now a philanthropist Mm-hmm. So would he ever stop being the dominant? I want to own everything and we looking at that at Jeff Bezos now does end of life what turns them into philanthropists or is it they just never become it because there is no end of life they live forever they What's the guy whose murder we're solving his name is Lawrence Lawrence so the whole time it's not like you No, no Lawrence Lawrence. I'm bad with names Lawrence Bancroft Lawrence Bancroft Yeah So the whole premises shows you're trying to solve his murder But he's still alive because the ultra rich also every 48 hours can have their entire mind backed up Well, yeah, and that's the thing that I mean they do a really great job that that presents a really great hook because Bancroft hires Kovac to solve his own murder right like that's a that's a thing right like so he's like I want you to solve I want you to solve a murder and he's like well who's he's like mine, you know, and you're like well, but you're alive And that's how it starts out and they promise is because these people have it backed up So someone killed him just before his backup Therefore he's got 48 hours missing or 46 hours or 47 hours of his day missing Because he was killed just before his next backup. So there's a whole 48 hours of his two days. Yeah, two days There's not extra hours in this future. No so the concept is really interesting that kind of lays the premise for it and Kovacs is someone who was a freedom fighter who was against the entire like the betterment of humanity is why this whole Technology was developed and the ultra rich said we can just live forever and never have to transfer wealth Okay, yeah, and it also they they actually play in all the problems of all of his children that he has Yeah, so you have this super rich guy with all these kids But they never get to inherit dad's wealth or become king of the empire because the king never gets to throne because he never dies Yeah, that becomes a big issue of like he's he basically keeps his children his children like the one The daughter says something about being like 63 years old. Yeah, but she's she's the body of like a 20 year old Yeah, and it's something else a rich can do they can just keep swapping to these young bodies So they stay in their youth the whole time Well, one of the things I find interesting too, just as like a side note was travel how it how it like changed travel because you can Needle they call it. Yeah, like I got to go to Tokyo which is plays into the show like Like you just like beam your consciousness to a clone if you have it or a sleeve They call the body sleeves a sleeve, you know available and like now I'm in Tokyo Yeah, and this is and this is a service only available to people that can afford it And this is where you see in a very beginning the sad case of it So yeah, if you commit a crime they remove your sleeve. They they decommission your body your consciousness goes into prison But you as as your body gets to be used by someone else while you're in prison And it's the poor they give it to so if you're poor and something happens it goes wrong with your body You get however killed in some manner They just give you some prisoners body right which of course creates some really awkwardness because they have the Sad part of beginning is like a six-year-old girl gets hit by a car or something I think they says yeah our accident and they just give her some worn-out prison body Yeah, that's something from a drug addict. Yeah, this yeah It's like 40 50 year old drug addict woman. Yeah now is like who the six-year-old girl was living in So it's like so everybody's entitled to a sleeve like who is not a criminal But it's unless you're rich like you don't get you don't get a nice one you get right and when you're the ultra rich You get to just have them cloned. Yeah, this is anything with when when the officer is dying, what's her name again? Oh the Ortega Ortega Ortega gets she gets really torn up by Ling and They have to go fix her body Well, they put her hand everything just put your hand on it and that's how they do the payment Oh, it's not a credit card, right? It's all DNA. It's all just DNA and they're like, oh, we see you're dying But get in line you don't you don't have money to do this Yeah, and then of course covax has all the money because that he's been hired him and given a big fun So he has to get her body fixed and it's it's our health care system here in America Well, I love like this you like you know, I like to study the symbolism right like he because it's DNA He spits on the like he's holding her right because she's dying and he like flops her hand She's like, oh, she doesn't have the funds and he literally spits on the counter Yeah, it hits his DNA and she sees like he had just has Goo gobs of money and immediately she's like, oh, oh, sorry. I didn't realize you're platinum status Right and so he like buys her like a new arm and he's just like whatever like I got so much money They've paid him. So he's just like whatever. I think she even said at some point He left an open tab for me at the hospital. Yeah, like so she could just go in and like Yeah, if you need your arm fixed anything just go ahead and go ahead and take care of that We'll fix it for you. But yeah, very much is Like that's still an issue our health with our health care system Is it money and our friends in Europe are sitting back laughing watching this. Yeah, you don't have these problems It's funny. This is literally discussion. We're having on one of the IT boards because it's international audience one I was like We're one of my American friends complaining because their health care cost went up to over $50,000 a year for his company and just for a handful employees. Yeah, like yeah, that's that it is like a massive business fix So yeah back to off topic So the the other things that are interesting is with the whole body in prison They also can take your consciousness and put you in a VR construct. This leads to some very interesting torture scenes Now this also comes back to fundamental writing changes that they did When they take covax out to torture him when they capture him and torture him for a while They do things because they could just keep killing you over and over again and keep torturing you infinitely because you never actually die So they make for some just horrific gruesome things that aren't really really happening But they feel like they're really happening and they can just reset and start the sequence over again In the book they changed your writing about this because the and I like the way the author said this he thought the women didn't have Powerful enough roles in there So he rewrote some of the characters that were male-dominated characters to Balance it out where you have women kicking ass and them but also the torture scenes They would sleeve him into a female body to torture him further by being a female with abuses related to that So that was another fundamental writing change they did but also they wanted it to be him being tortured not some Torture fest where they put him in a woman or just torturing some girl Yeah, I thought that was actually writing enhances where they differed from the book that make a lot of sense Well, I think it I think it to you then you kind of lead into like these people watching it basically as torture porn Yeah, if some people just want to watch them torture things like that. So that's not you know, it's it's different Um, I think it was the right decision. I mean I did not read the books So I don't know but anytime you can give more powerful Female characters. I'm all for it. Yes, one of the things we'll and I'm sure we'll get into is the character of Lizzie Yes, and Lizzie doesn't exist in a book in the same way. She exists the fact that she was one of the girls who worked in the Head in the clouds place. So she was one of the hookers there that got killed. Okay That part is still in the book What's not in a book is the story of her recovery and turning into a fighting machine, which was pretty awesome Like I said, if you haven't seen it This is a complete spoiler. She kicks a lot of ass and saves covax ass at the end of it I just wanted to kick more ass because Because it really is a great hers is really a great story of like a redemption right because she was literally broken Yeah, and that's a very interesting concept as well. So she gets killed, but they have her sleeve It's alive and a build a VR construct that you can live in but when you've gone through too much psychological damage They need they call them a psychological surgeon to fix the damage because you're stuck in a crazy loop as they call Well, they call it a trauma loop trauma loop Yeah, she's just literally laying in an alley while rats like crawl all over her and like in her in her construct That's what yeah because she build once they put you in a construct your mind builds that construct and That's the construct. She built for herself just kind of in a loop and no one could talk to her And that's where Poe comes in the saber. Oh my favorite. He's already one of my favorite authors, but yes, they have These I think even by the time we're in this story these theme hotels have become passé But it's these theme hotels his was called the Raven and it's Edgar Allen Poe as an AI artificial intelligence Running the place. So you have Edgar Allen Poe as your as your host And so that's where Kovac goes to live and this is very interesting because this is also a fundamental change from the book The book it's called the Hendricks and it's a Jimmy Hendricks themed hotel But for any of you who are familiar with how licensing works Apparently they didn't have the budget to call it the Hendricks, right? They would have had to pay a lot of royalties to the hey Jimmy Hendricks Estate so they change it to the post. So it is a fundamental writing change But they did it so damn good. I love the character because everything Poe is in the public domain now. So yeah But yeah, he I Shotgun just made me I don't I I don't think I would I know I wouldn't like it as much. I don't think I can picture a Jimmy Hendricks AI doing as great a job. Yes, the Poe I mean just having Poe. Yeah with a shotgun and the and the the Machine guns that come out of this. Yeah, like the whole thing is like he's you know, he's your host So like he and I love the scene where Kovac is like getting just a crap beat out of him when he first is checking Into the hotel. He's these goons. It's all that's like our first episode. Yeah And like and like Poe is just sitting there like drinking his tea and he's like once you you know Once you check in I can provide all Protection services. Yes, blah blah blah and finally Kovac gets there and gets his hand on the thing and like Pays and then like machine guns out of the ceiling Poe has a shotgun I just start killing everybody annihilates these dudes. So like once you're there He will go to any links to protect. Yeah, and it that there's a whole um a lot of spinoffs They can do off this because there's meetings the AIs have with each other because they Poe happens to be someone who's studying Humans and what it is to be human. So there's almost like a side But they don't dive deep into it But the AIs have their functional meetings and their own little things they do They're always playing a poker match and discussing what it's like to be around the humans Right, which is becomes like this interesting side story, but they don't really dive in depth with it Yeah, they do and I mean that itself is great symbolism of the poker game with these AIs like cuz like Poe is Exists in this, you know kind of as the other AI see it this like useless sort of like like they're like Oh, you have a like Kovac is his first guest in like 50 years, right? And so he's all excited when he used to the poker game is like oh like I have I have a guest and they're like Oh, it's only been 50 years like the one guy runs a whorehouse. So he's like, oh, I mean I got Right, you know, you really need to change your he's telling Poe like you need to change your business model And like do what I do cuz don't be a whorehouse Basically like you like it's hand over fist. You're making money. No pun intended. Yeah So it's really interesting too because all these leads to so many weird concepts Because of the way you can just change bodies and this is the whole head in the clouds thing is if you can just change bodies You can go kill people and just buy them a new body and drop them in there's a lot of fight scenes like this So one of the rich people just find people to fight and kill each other and the winner gets a new body After they die. Yeah, it upgraded better by upgrade a better body. Yeah loser gets downgraded It's down at the one party. It was it was a married couple That they had hired to fight each other to the death. Yeah Which I mean So there's yeah, I won't go there. Yes. Oh, all right, man. You have this pots and pans discussion with sorts When it gets a new body, yeah, yeah, they also in they one of the problems is the The couple Lizzie's parents they sleeve them in they sleeve his wife who was killed who's a hacker They get her out of prison, but they put her in a man's body instead of women's body That's actually something that didn't happen in the book kind of an odd choice But it's one of those weird things that can happen. Yeah It seems odd. I yeah, I think it was I was okay with it because I think the the actor who did it I think did a great job. Oh, yeah, like Portraying that like Really portraying like that femininity that is that would be within You know, like he is he is a woman's consciousness, right? So yes, like you I don't know I'm not that I'm trying to not sound misogynistic or anything because it's not he isn't by no means weaker I mean she is like the super hacker like she can get into anything. That's why she was put in prison So, you know, she's like definitely a hero of the story, but the actor himself like just did a really good job Like like I totally bought him as the mother of Lizzie and the wife of Now my favorite use Which one the his friend the military guy that was his dad and yeah, Lizzie's dad. I'm low. I lost Lizzie's dad Now my favorite was this guy Which which was his name? Oh, he had many because he went many names Yeah, he was basically like a sleeve that gets passed around. He first shows up as just a criminal. Yes, it was like Like knocked out or whatever. Yeah, so he shows up as a criminal. Yeah, it's a guy with the Spider spider web on his head tattoo. So you got this thug-looking guy, right? So he shows up there and he's he's a bad guy criminal don't know what he really did He's in a police station. No one really wants to deal with them. They tease him and knock him out and it's The day of the dead, how do you say that in Spanish? Dia de las muertas. Dia estate emojis and Halloween basically Halloween. So or tega or tega This is this is where this gets fun. She Every time the day of the dead you think about this for a minute. They bring grandma back to life Yeah, grandma something we didn't something we didn't touch on was there is a religious movement of People that believe you should die. They believe you should die. And so they have their sleeves coated So that when when they have sleeve death like when their body dies, you are not allowed to spin them back up, right? They have to stay dead, right? The family I guess apparently can choose to do it For dia de las muertas kind of things But like their religious belief is that you you cannot be spun back up, which is a becomes a big plot point Yeah So so that's why grandma wasn't just sleeved into another body and like living with them like this It's a it's a her or tega's family kind of most of them believe in this in that religion Yes, that people wasn't we have leave us dead when we die But when this criminal guy comes in they're like she's like well There's a handy body for us because they knock them out and they they slip grandma in there and they bring grandma home So you got this guy with nose rings beard tattoos on his head of everything and he's a white supremacist Yeah, yeah, yeah, essentially of that era fog the fog is a white supremacist like he still has he has like some tattoos that are like supremacist well, yeah, well, that's it's a nod to ms 13 by putting a 14 on his head Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so gang gang affiliation. Anyways, so he shows up and he's hugging the grandkids and Stories hats off to that actor. No kidding because they use his body for numerous different people So first he's the asshole that comes in there Then he turns into these grandma and then he turns into The rushing guy the rushing guy who wants vengeance deemee deemies and then actually somebody between grandma and Demetrius Yeah, I think he's someone in between but they really got their use out of that actor and as an actor That's got to be tough as he played physically one physical look, but three different roles. Yeah I actually for I give a lot of credit to Like all of the actors in this because there's a lot of personality switching that goes on Yes, or taiga ends up like, you know, her sleeve is used by you know one of the villains And so each whenever that's happening like you you really are playing another person You know, so I give a lot of credit to the actors and actresses because they really pulled it off like yeah because especially or taiga because the actress playing or taiga Kovac's sister who we haven't mentioned yet She likes sleeves into her to like, you know get some more information out of out of Kovac. So she's playing She's playing or taiga's sleeve being run by the sisters mind Pretending to be or It's just like that. This is self is just mind-blowing. Yes, and this is where things get really deep Yeah, it is because of those type of dynamics in the show I'm amazed one of the things I kept thinking of watching it is like the amount of trust that people have that I'm really talking to the person That I'm looking at you know what I mean, right because like I If that was me like I would anybody I looked at I would be like I don't know that you're really the person I which is a big concern. So you're talking about when you tell my identity theft This isn't level. Yeah, exactly future identity. That's really strange Yeah, cuz I mean by the construct the construct that they have constructed like I could conceivably just take Tom's consciousness out Put it in a VR and be Tom for the rest of it like right, you know, just that's it I'm Tom now and Tom is living in beyond that. I don't But I would I would definitely get an upgrade I will say that Maybe I want to drive the toaster around for a while you could do that anyways Anyways, I'm the toaster. I'm the big thick of sourdough that just doesn't go in the We can't fit Marvin in a toast no matter how much you push it down Well, yeah, we'll leave you that visual So I'm realizing there is so much we're gonna have to do a two-parter my gosh I know so much to the show. Yeah, but we'll cover it. We'll kind of wrap it up here though So do you have the envoy? We'll talk about that real quick. So these are some freedom fighters So Kovac starts out as a working for the military essentially Realizes they're corrupt be by start working for the freedom fighters who fight against the system the man Which are not as in-depth on there I don't know if the book has more or less on that topic But there are groups of people who are fighting this and fighting the way the systems are run because there's so much inequality and problems and Blah blah blah. I mean the rich people literally live like the poor people literally live at ground level Like they're called rounders and the rich people live in the in the clouds Like yeah, their houses and everything and they're literally floating in the sky Yeah, so you have all that dynamic going on and he's part of the freedom fighters Well, he gets busted as a freedom fighter and captured which leads to him being on ice for like 200 years before And things get worse. I mean this is one of freedom fighters They kind of destroyed a bunch of the freedom fighters 200 years later they revive him and he's like oh everything's worse Then what this is what we are fighting against and now it's even gotten worse and but during when him and his sister They find each other because he's fighting corruption. She works for the Ikuza yeah, so she works for the Ikuza and they meet each other in battle In that's how he kind of runs back into his sister. He was a still being like a criminal organization I just got back up a little bit. So him and his sister had lived with abuse of family dad kills mom eventually Kovac kills his dad like kills kills him like realism real death because if you shoot someone in there Where their stack is like in her neck you can kill kill them. There's no reviving him They that gets him arrested and that's where they lead him into the path of working for the government as a Essentially like the military where he works. He doesn't know what happens with sister They say she gets a better life. They don't really follow through with that That's also what turns them against the government because they told him one thing and didn't do another So that's kind of how that dynamic and where it all comes back together They meet in battle which seems odd like that. They don't kill each other They somehow recognize each other even though they're wearing masks. That is a weird plot point the way they meet But yeah, his sister is Supposedly Killed and this is what you think was it probably episode five or six Yeah, something you think his sister's dead because he goes one way the freedom fighter camp where he gets caught and everything Goes awry Everything goes awry there. She seems to die She seems to escape in a pod but then appears to die. This is where we think there's a lot of weird plot points And it comes to writing style not that I'm picking apart the whole plot, but his sister allegedly dies Well, his sister sabotaged The freedom fighters that were supposed to get away and she's the one who killed them She's apparently like a megalomaniac herself determined to be the richest person So the 200 years that he's on ice and prison not in a body She's a massing wealth and becoming one of the wealthiest people of all time and being a higher gun and running Whorehouses and becoming everything that they fought against In concept, but she never seems on board They kind of give you that impression that she's like yeah, I'm hanging out with my brother because I'm hiding from the Akusa I guess I'm against the military. The kusa wants me to So I kind of got to hang out with the freedom fighters because I don't fit in anywhere else Yeah, so you kind of get that impression from her, but then she's trying to save them the rest of the show And then she becomes his Trying to get him to do this So here's someone who's cutthroat doesn't care about human life. It's it's the rich for the taking. She's like not apologetic I don't care that I let them kill people for real and I've done this and done this all this cool all this crazy evil person stuff But she wants to save her brother all the time and that's the part doesn't make sense Like why does she care about him so much like is it it's the only family? But he's still no matter what fighting against everything she does That's the part that becomes like a weird and even if she even if you buy that like okay Well that she loves her brother so much because she claims that she did all of this She amassed all this wealth and all this so that she could get him off ice and you know They could happily ever after so even if that is the case that she loved him so much as why she did it Why why did she go through so much trouble this ruse of like This as you find out like she kind of manipulated all of this to happen to get him off to get him off ice right well If she has all this wealth already And she's running the type of business where you could very easily blackmail somebody. Yeah, she's running on a whorehouse Where they get to kill whoever they want Yeah, like you live out of and like you live out this fantasy of killing people and like sleeve death is Illegal like even though like the consciousness lives on like you can't just kill somebody They call it sleeve death like you can't just kill a person and you know Yeah, so she has to find volunteers for this. I mean, she's got an entire massive underground operation of killing people in a whorehouse Yeah, but beyond that she doesn't care about the the the hookers that are working there So she could very easily just get a person of power like lorns bancroft They they do their thing. They kill the person They absolutely really kill the person they give them real death, which is absolutely illegal Like why didn't she just do that like bancroft is there he kills somebody and then she says Oh, hey, I can make this go away. All you got to do is get my brother off ice Right. And so that's a weird plot point. Like she is so just has a complete disregard for any human life or value of it It's only The world's for the wealthy and for their taking it's her entire mantra and attitude But hold on my brother's off limits here like just yeah, or if she has that much money She seems to be on par maybe not quite as much power as bancroft has I why couldn't she just pull the strings that bancroft can pull right right? So that's kind of a weird point on there and the other weird one was ling So he's the guy who can't be seen on cameras. He disappears from any camera. He's on he's one of the sister He's like the hired gun for her. Yeah, he's like her her muscle Why can't I remember but he's he worships her like a god and this is a weird thing too Yeah, he seems to have a religion around it But is it a religion if it's just him or does he just like her a lot? I don't he just seems Oh, you're not a believer. He says to the other people. Yeah, so he's really ruthless killer And like and if you're rude to her, he will kill you. Yeah, like she is to be revered and and yeah He wants utmost respect as if she's like a god Which is so weird because there's not really any like I don't know He's I guess just a nut But he does he comes off as if you don't believe in the ones you're not a believer Because if he's talking about religion, but you're like what religion you talking about like there's not anyone else like you Or are there people like you and they just didn't include anybody else in there You would think you would have a team of cult followers, but he's like a one-man show Yeah, I I didn't get his I well, I mean, I mean, I knew why his character was there I didn't I didn't it was like they either they didn't go far enough with his character Yeah, they they they went why tell why have him worshiped someone without explaining his his thought process behind the worship Just make him a hired killer awesome Especially sense. You know what I mean? Like especially sense spoiler alert Like it's not like he's gonna come back and you'll get that explanation later. Like he is rd. He is he is Real death. Yeah, he is giving real death here. So they removed him from the show So it was like they it was like they went Farther than they should have for a throwaway character. Like he seemed like he became So it's like they didn't go far enough and explaining You know the things he can do and everything is like why why go why make him that why go through that trouble of saying Oh, he can not appear on cameras and and then not explain to me why right? He also or leave it open for it to be explained later Yeah, and they also I didn't like the way because it maybe it's just the way I think of things Because you know technology and backups like oh, we can back up a human and clone them To another consciousness and they call it A double sleeving all this other stuff cool. They got all those technologies But then ling destroys the aisis to make it on po. I'm like, we can't have a backup of po We can't just like restore him and he destroys them somehow and makes him go away and you're like You can back up a human conscious, but you can't back up an AI conscious. I don't know But that's how they eliminated him. So I'm kind of like I guess I guess I kind of assumed that because what he used, uh, you know A um like pulse. Yeah, I guess I I assumed that he was destroying everything backups and everything Right, I assumed that's what it was. But I guess at the same time Something we preach here all the time have an off-site backup. Yeah Is there not an off-site backup of po? We're not sure. Yeah, I really hope there is because I want him back Yeah, so that was interesting I liked at the end too when he had to address the fact that there's two covaches and I got to figure that part out Yeah, so that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, and so Part of the issue other issues that I had was was with the sister actually the sister sort of Shows back up somewhat out of nowhere Yeah, like save the day and then she becomes spoiler alert again She becomes really the villain of the whole thing you find out. She's really the whole thing and so For me, I would have I think it would have been tighter writing if she had been along for the ride Um from earlier in the series she shows up in like episode six and she's there But she's not in herself. She's like the little girl at the place, right? So she has interaction with them. So it's weird It's I don't know I to me. It just like she It just she just came out of I say came out of nowhere. But I mean, yes, you're right She's showing up as a little girl and you're getting flashbacks and stuff like that, but like For me, it would have it would have made she was a little girl at the museum too Right. Yeah. So I'm saying she was a little girl and and then but you also see her in flashbacks and flashbacks But for me, it would have been more of a I guess a betrayal or a more powerful turn or powerful twist if she had kind of been along with with present day Current kovacs sort of like helping him or like being an ally to him Somehow right and then like making that turn because she just kind of shows up When kovacs is like pretty much, you know at the bottom like he's about to be killed. She shows up saves the day Which even that when I was like, oh really like the sister just kind of showed up Yeah, that's like she's sort of like, you know, like I had no inkling that like there was no foreshadowing or anything that she might be around like to me It was a do-sex mock and that kind of thing. She just showed up and saved the day. Yeah, and now Oh, we have her here. Let's twist. We're gonna make her the villain Yeah, so that was weird too because he showed it. Yeah, but the fight scene the fact that he had max headroom in there loved it Yeah, he's not playing max headroom, but I will always know him as max headroom. Yeah And it's a great character too. Oh his character is really good. The costume and everything costume and everything I know I saw somebody there was a forum post or somewhere where they refer They they thought that it was the guy playing him was kramer from uh, no It's not it absolutely is not but like I read it and I cracked up because they were like Oh and kramer when kramer showed up and I was like that was not kramer dude. He's max headroom Well, thanks for watching. Um, I don't know if this made you hate the movie love the movie Let us know your thoughts and if you have watched it, um, or if this made you want to watch it Or if this makes you never want to watch us again, we may have rambled and jumped around way too much. Yeah We took we took an already confusing show and made even more. Yeah, if you're not completely confused watch this show And then you'll be more confused. So yeah, tell us what you thought about the show Yeah, we're curious. Yeah, give us your Furies and we want to do this because I got busy and didn't really also I didn't put together a lot of news stories because that's becoming it's kind of A work in progress of coming up on news stories all the time for these So I'm trying to well it trying to keep them in the off-topic genre Um, well, but I think this is because like alter carbon itself Like it sort of was like the little show that not a little show But like the show that could because I did not see any Advertising about it. Like no, they've done a great job This show has grown word of mouth pretty much. Yeah, and hands off to Netflix for doing that. So they did Production value really high 4k everything really amazing. Yeah, so It's lots of visual eye candy. So I'm a massive actually most of the movies. I like our sci-fi That's my preferred genre of anything. I watch the sci-fi. Yeah, they do a good job building the world It's very blade runner. Oh, yeah, the world that the visual look the world that they've built. Yeah, um Uh, if I we probably I mean they warn you but there is a lot of nudity A lot of sex like a lot of nudity a lot of sex If you're bothered by nudity sex and violence, this is not a show for you And and if you're bothered by nudity sex and violence all happening at the same time Oh, yeah, yeah, it's really not for you. It's really really not for you I like what my one like Kyle said so don't this isn't a family movie you let you watch for my parents I'm like, yeah, not not yeah, right. No, no, I wouldn't do those scenes are awkward for you Not too long ago. They did a they did a A sketch on snl that was like a family watching terminator But like everybody has forgotten that there's the sex scene in terminator And so it's like the kid and the parents watching it like then they do like the voice overs like Oh, I completely forgot that they had sex. It's just like the uncomfortable thing of like watching a sex scene with your parents Yeah, so there's that it's uh, not kid friendly. It is no not at all. It is not at all But all right, thanks for watching if you like subscribe Let us know if you hated it give us thumbs up if you want to be notified of new videos as they come out get the bell We got more stuff Yeah, you got more stuff coming. Um, I really do want to hear what people thought of the show and any other theories You might have or you know things you like didn't like in ways that could have made it better You know be an armchair producer like we were yeah, yeah, and you have an opinion on things Especially what we do in a sci-fi where we have lots of opinions on these things. Yeah I don't really want to hear my opinion when I finished the star trek series And I got some opinions on that and it should not be called star trek. So that's a whole new one the new one Yeah, it is a star trek inspired series. Uh, the orville is way more gene rodin Mary's orville. We should do a show on the we should do a show on the or I want I want yes All right, thanks