 and then P was going through different changes with no limit, you know, um, he was having they were navigating some internal shit too, and then success hit him. It was a lot going on. What was your, uh, this, okay. Master P trying to figure all this out. He young too. Yes. He young too. That's the part that everybody don't get. I get so upset with people when they talk about Birdman or Master P. I get upset about people when they talk about these young guys who was came into this monitor, this entrepreneurial, uh, rap industry where people are not trying to figure it out. Trying to figure it out bro. To say what it is, you know, I don't think my partner cared for him and P didn't care for him. But is this the part of the sound like him? No, that was, that was, I thought about that when you, that was, uh, that was another one that would come in and out the group. Okay. But that's what I thought when I was like, no, this is another guy. So why do you think that your partner, cause it's been a long time. Yeah. Do you still, you and the guy still talk? Yeah, for sure. Why would he ever confide in you and say, Hey man, this is why I really didn't like this guy. No, what it was, it was, see, I had, we, I had the insight and the foresight to understand that we didn't have any leverage. You know, it wasn't like we had a big buzz. It wasn't like we could go to P and say, Hey man, you know, jive or sick with it and rap a lot said this, can you match it? You know, like some, you know what I mean? We couldn't, we didn't do that. I understood that him on the other hand, you know, not that he was completely wrong. He wanted to do business. He wanted to do corporate business. He was like, Hey, check this out. And the manager at the time was on the same shit. He was like, they came at P like, yeah, so what kind of advanced you talking about? You know, what's this, the contract, you know, P hustled. He like, nigga, I'm giving y'all a chance. Y'all niggas ain't nobody. You know what I'm saying? Which he was right. But then also, it can be too right. This is my point. But I knew that you're trying to do the right thing in the wrong situation. I was thankful. I was more thankful for the opportunity in my exact. I remember us being in a hotel and we talked about it. And now we're 18. We don't have a reference point of no music business. We just going on common sense. And I remember telling them, I said, bro, I said, let's just do it. I said, we don't, what do we have to lose at this point? You know what I mean? Cause if we do it and it does well, then we're going to get what we were at that point. But right now we, we go, we go back home. We ain't got shit else to do. Exactly. You know, so that was my position on it. Yeah. I like the fact that you at 18 was able to converse like this because at 18, nigga, we're going to rob P. I mean, you know, in your mind, like 18, 18. We knew we couldn't do that with P. At the end of the day, I know we can't do it, but it's hard, bro. You say that, but, but then you the same 15 year old that was still in gun. That's true. That's true. But you had grew mature enough to know that. And then I had, I had already kind of, you know, established a brotherhood with P. So that's the difference. I looked at him. Like I said, when we met, it was like we all already knew each other, but him and my partner mean for the first time. They talking for the first time, you know? So it was, it was, it was a little, you know, and then P was going through different changes with no limit, you know, um, he was having, they were navigating some internal shit too. And then success hit him. It was a lot going on. What was your, uh, this, okay. Master P trying to figure all this out. He young too. Yes. He young too. That's the part that everybody don't get. I get so upset with people when they talk about Birdman or Master P. I get upset about people when they talk about these young guys who was came into this monitor, this entrepreneurial, uh, rap industry where people are trying to figure it out. Trying to figure it out. So I get upset, bro. You don't even know. I don't play about South anyway. I'm going to be on the way. I'm kind of throw it off. You know what I'm saying? I'm biased. But that's one thing I get upset about. I'll be like, man, nah, man, we ain't have much down here. And for Peter even go from New Orleans up to California and then establish himself. That's a whole lot right there at the age he was. And being a young father for him also helped. So you and him had a lot in common. Yes, exactly. I mean, neither one of us smoked a drink. We was really workaholics. We was focused. We both were dreamers. You know, we both were athletes. So yeah, we had a lot of commonalities that, you know, I would talk to you about when he was trying to go to the league and all that, or when he did play in the league. I was friends during that time. Sure. How did what, what was some things that was messing with him during that time? And I'll ask you that kind of stick out to your art was good for him during that time. I mean, that was always his initial dream. You know, he was an athlete and a basketball player before he was a rapper and a CEO. That was his initial dream. That was him going back to his calling. Yeah. You know what I mean? So for the rest of the world, it was like, oh, what? Let's think of trying to play ball. No, that's what he started out doing. You know, he only, the music shit was a default. That was like, fuck, I got, I got hurt. I got to figure some other shit out, you know. So that was just him pursuing his dream, man. He loved basketball. He still does. Can he still play? I see him play a little bit. But now he's trying to get into, he's trying to get a coaching job. Coaching job. Yeah. With the Lakers at this point, you know, and I know he tried with the Pelicans as well. I don't hear this by a team. But he, he's entertained that as well. But Romeo, Romeo didn't take to it like that. I thought at one point that that's what he was going to do too. He did. I think maybe his passion was just more with movies and things like that. Yeah. I've seen him grow up into a man, man. As my son did his way. Like I say, I'm watching these things. And when you, when you see these are the things that you look at and you like, man, you know, I can do it too. I'm being real. When you a person that's of age and you know, these guys running about the same age, you like kind of look at it and be like, yeah, hell, if they did it, hell, anybody can do it. It gives you an opportunity to think that way. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate y'all for that for sure. Because y'all was hustling, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one.