 All right, so we'll go ahead and move forward. Although we do kind of need Ray for this first item. So it's the Moretown Select Board. Got a couple of people jumping in here. Let me grab them. Hey, how are they? So it is Monday, May 17th, 2021. It is the Moretown Select Board. We are meeting through Zoom once again. And let's see, it looks like we have who's 9954, is that you, Don? Yup, here I am. All right, so we've got, who we're missing on the board right now is Ray, but I'm sure he'll pop it at some point. Or I hope he does anyways. So let's go ahead, first agenda item we have is general public comments. And I don't see anyone on, it's new or different, but if they went on the board Hadley, do you have any comments? No comments from me. Hi, Sasha. Nobody. All right, so let's go ahead. We have the first agenda item, pardon me, MOU, discussing final lives in the MOU. Now I know we talked about this a bit when Ray Dagle was on. We were talking about getting him some documents before they just break in June, as far as the MOU, I think current one as it's written, I think not a lot of changes there, but we had to discuss and go over. Here's Ray. Hey, Ray. Hey, Ray, how are you? Greetings, reading to everybody. All right, so Ray, we were just started there was no one for general public comment. We're just going on to discussing the final lives in the MOU. And when Ray Dagle was here, I think the document that we have now is fairly comprehensive and I think is inclusive of what we want, but there was the question of the parking lot. I think a few of you guys, I'm not sure where there's John, you and Cheryl and we're going to work on some pricing for that because we wanted to present that in that as well. Does anyone recall that or have been doing anything on that? Well, because of this, because of the changes and the design, the parking lot and the water garden slash whatever you want to call it, we don't really have any exact pricing yet. So I'm shooting for this Friday for a meeting for Ray and myself with Howlin, Becky and the Schultes. At this point, I don't know whether it's going to be first thing in the morning or last thing in the day. That's what Howlin had suggested. So that's the only times he's available. So anyway, I will nail that down. And then after that, hopefully we'll be able to figure out how much we're going to have to put up for that. But that project there that you're talking about, that's the, I'm going to call it the drainage project. Right. But the parking lot, that's a separate issue, right? I mean, that's the parking lot itself. I mean, that's all I'm talking about. Right. No, and we don't have anything on that. I believe Sherlin was going to dig into that, right, Ray? Yeah, I gave her some numbers, I think, last month. And I do need to update it because I think there's a little bit of overlap between the drainage, the work that they're going to pay and the work that has come out of the town pocket. And I will definitely get that done here within the next, within the next week here. I just got to look at the quantities and put some numbers on it. It won't take me too long. I just got to sit down and do it. Yeah, that's fine. And just as long as we're working on it and we have, by the end of the month, an idea of what it may be. So we can put something together for the hardwood Hageen 5 board. Yeah, I will get that done by the end of the month and get it out. Thank you. Any other questions on that for anyone? Callie or Don, any questions on that? No. All right. I'm good. So let's go ahead and move on. So last meeting we discussed and we decided that we would meet at our first meeting in June. And that's June 7th in person. And certainly based on what the guidelines, the new guidelines that are coming out, I feel like we shouldn't stay for them. We were two weeks ago based on what the governor was saying. So are there any, I know we've had success here with the Zoom meetings and I think a lot of people have been able to attend them. But I don't think that we need to go forward with them. My anticipation is that both Orca and the Mad River Valley TV will be covering it. It's like it had been in the past and we can set the meeting room up and we can space each other out at least three feet apart. We may need to limit the number of people that come in at a time, but what's everyone's thought? I guess I could go first, right? You're going ahead. Yep, go ahead, Don. I was thinking similar to what you just mentioned that we could space out as much as feasible in the room and also maybe just as people come to the meeting, maybe limit the amount of people who are in the meeting. And since we're moving into June, we could probably have a couple of windows open that might just help with the circulation of the air, I suppose, and then it's just a matter of questioning whether we wear our masks or we don't. If everybody's vaccinated and what the CDC has been saying and Scott, I think we should be able to go ahead. Thanks. Yeah, I think the windows open. Even people, if they want to listen, they can sit out front with the windows open as well. Ray, what's your thoughts? I would like very much to see us go back to a public meeting at the town office. And I'm willing to work with the rest of the board to make it happen. Kelly, do you have any thoughts? I'm perfectly fine being in person with everything. The only thing, even though the CDC guidance has changed, we would technically all still have to wear our masks. Because we still have our town ordinance in place. John? Yeah, it's fine with me. And Chris, I agree with Kelly on the mask as long as we have the ordinance, we still have to do that. And that's something we can discuss then whether that's something we want or we can even tonight is there any discussion on the ordinance? I mean, I think sooner rather than later it's gonna be a discussion anyway the way things are going in the state. I mean, being the fact that we're first in the nation with vaccine rates, more and more people are getting vaccinated at this point or have been. So, and looking with the governor's projected date of having them be recommended by July 4th. I mean, if we, we should discuss it at some point in June, if we don't do it tonight. Yeah, you know, I think we should make it an agenda item. There may be other people in the community who may want to have input on it. So, Sasha, if we could have that on that June 7th meeting have that probably our first item to address. But thank you, Kelly for bringing that up. So, all right. And we'll make sure that I think the next day after the meeting we should have it cleaned. So, Kelly, I'm Sasha, if you could arrange for that to make sure that the cleaner comes through in the morning. And of course we limit ourselves to the public side anyways. So I think it will certainly be a pleasure for me to get off the virtual meetings although I think we've done a good job with them. It's gonna be nice to see everyone. Sasha, did you have any thoughts? I know you're gonna be there as well. I know you and I had talked, but is there anything that you wanted to share with the board on it or any opinion on that? I'm gonna be fully vaccinated by then. Great, so you'll be good. Good. All right, so we'll go ahead unless we hear something different between now and then there's some huge outbreaks or if we're sick and certainly if anyone is feeling not well, any of the things of those 14 questions you've asked wherever you go, any of that, don't come to the meeting. But I look forward to seeing everyone there. So Sasha, why don't you go ahead and we have some reports at all. All I have is, there was an email from Martin going back and forth with Jeff Newton and I didn't know if everybody had seen that. Is that with the sand bed? Yep. Okay, yeah, we'll do that. We have the sand bed, we have a greater repair and we have a compactor for the town garage that we need to discuss. We'll do that at town or old businesses. We'll get to that, which we'll do fairly soon I think. Okay. So nothing else from you? Nope, I sent out a copy of the personnel policy to everybody and Ray had asked a question on it. The only thing that changed were the insurance numbers. Okay. That's... Very good. Callie got anything for us tonight? I don't. Like you're sitting there in the sunshine and doing yourself. The sun is in the right spot on the back bed. What about, how are the bugs over there? The black flies. I haven't seen any yet. Like they're about... We're gonna get them really bad because we have a pond. So we get bugs, our bugs are awful, but. Yeah, kind of the black flies here are terrible. John, can you save us from black flies? Oh, I'm good. I got nothing. Nothing, John. How about you, John? No, just what I mentioned before and trying to get this meeting up and going. That's it. Hey, Ray, anything from you? See, the only thing I was gonna talk about again, I don't know, we talked about it at the last minute, a little bit regarding Jeff Ladoo and his, the road that goes up past him to his camp by A Bears. So the town brought roughly six yards of stone up there, which is two one ton loads. And Jeff would like one more one ton load. And when I talked with Martin about it, he felt that he has complied with the town policy, road policy on what we have done for that. And so I talked a little bit further with Jeff about it. And I needed to actually talk to John, oh give him a little bit about it. Are you still on there, John? I think you're still there. You went blank. I'm here. Back in the early 2000s or mid 2000s, I don't think I was on the board, but I remember this happening. There was quite a bit of discussion about the location of the trail that goes by his camp to him and A Bear and Paul Gillis. And what Jeff remembers is that after we spent or the town spent roughly $1,500 or so trying to locate where the trail was through Gillis, it couldn't be done. And so there was an agreement that we just go with where it is and the town would give him a load of stone every year to kind of make things work all together. So, and he was at that time referring to a 14-yard load. So I guess my question to you, John, is do you have any recollection of the town making that decision? And do you think we should continue with that? Well, I don't believe we had any agreement to give him a load every year. Okay. The last, now this would be the same trail where we had the sign there that immediately got torn down. Yes. Yeah, okay. No, I believe that we did make an agreement to give him some stone at that point. And I thought that when you were on the board, because you were on the board when that sign came down, right? Well, that I've not, I can remember the whole incident and I might have been near the end when I was on the board or something. I know I remember looking at the area and trying to determine where the trail was and it looked like the trail just moved over at some boy, but I remember the sign going up but I just really could not remember an agreement about the stone. No, as far as I know, there's no agreement. We could certainly check back in the minutes and see, but I don't recall that. I'm kind of mixed feeling on this. I feel like we did make an agreement, we should comply, but we do have a policy. We all know that we want to enforce or do the policy of equal treatment to everybody. So I'm not sure what we should do at this point. I don't want to be there, but we have to make our decision. I don't know how the rest of the board views about it. You know, remember, it should check with Cheryl on that. That would be a good idea. Yeah. Cheryl might know something. Yeah. So is that something you want me to check on Ray or do you wanna or? You know, if you could check on it, John, that would be giving me kind of out of the middle here a little bit. Okay. I mean, if nothing else, she probably could steer us toward where, you know, the minutes might be. I mean, you know, which minutes, she's pretty good with chronology. I'm not as good with that. I know we have given him some stone here in the past. I don't know whether it was for some agreement, but certainly since I've been on the board has been probably a two to three times where we've given him some stoning including this time. So John, if you could check with Cheryl, she may know something about it. Okay. I will do that. Okay. Sounds good. That's all I have. All right. So we have the meeting minutes from June, or I'm pardon me, June, May 3rd to approve. I make a motion to accept the minutes of May 3rd. All right. It's your seconds. Second. All right. Thanks, Kelly. There's no discussion. All in favor of the minutes, vote aye. Aye. Aye. All right. Thanks. All right. So that gets us right along here at Old Business. So let's go ahead and start with the town garage. So first off, why don't we, we have the sand bits. If you all recall, Newton had the low bid Sasha, I don't have those in front of me, but it was significantly lower. And the question was whether it was a two year contract or not. And so the answer is it was not bid as a two year bid. So when, when Jeff Newton put it in, he was anticipating a one year contract just like every once. However, going back to him, he is willing to make it a two year contract. So that's something I think the board should seriously consider. I think it's a good idea. And I don't think it's putting into the other vendors out at all. We're all looking, everyone was looking at a one year contract. Newton got the low and as a good business, we asked to extend that. And they're willing to. So if we could get a little comment, maybe Ray, not from you, because you do work there, but everyone else, please. John. I think it's fine. I mean, go ahead John, sorry. I do have mixed feelings. I mean, certainly his price was quite a bit lower and I would sincerely doubt that any of the others that bid on it would have come down to his price if we locked in for two years. But once again, everybody was bidding on just the one year and now we're awarding the contract to Newton and then saying, and he said, well, we're asking if he can hold that for two years. But I also agree with you, Tom, that it's probably not gonna change. They may come down a little bit, but certainly not to the price that Newton had. Yeah, no, I don't think it's bad business by seeking out an additional after it was a fair bid through one and extending. But, and I understand that's what you said too. But Don, what did you have for comments? Well, I agree with what both of you were saying and the only thing we could do a little bit differently if we wanted to keep it even playing field, so to speak is reach out to the two other companies in an email and saying, what would your bid be if it was a two year contract and just to give them the opportunity so that three years from now, they don't just say, oh, we're not gonna bid more down. They didn't really, you know, that type of thing. Alec, what do you think? I mean, I'm fine with it being a two year contract. I do kind of like Don's idea and just reaching out to them. I mean, they're not probably gonna be able to meet that price anyway, but just in the idea of giving everyone that same playing field, but that's also that kind of put us out in this process a little bit as well. So... Yeah, you know, if everyone's feeling like it's, you know, again, like I said, we need to have valid people bidding on our stuff. And, you know, I'm sure next year we'll send it out and it might cost us a little bit more, but, you know, maybe we don't annoy anyone. So probably it would be worth it that way. So maybe we should just go ahead with a one year contract, award that, and then, you know, throw it up again next year. And then if it's something that we wanna do next year and wanna look at that two year contract, then throw it in, throw it in the information. Yeah, no, we'll just make it exactly in the bid. We'll just ask for one in a two year contract price. That way it's clean, it's clear, and no one feels put out. How's that sound for everyone? Yeah, that sounds good. That sounds good, yes. I think we saved it by five minutes, but we have to do a new contract one more year, yes. Tom, you're all gargled. You're all gargled again. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, there we go. Tom, would you? I would move to accept the Newton contract that we received at our last meeting for the one year contract. Second. Is there any other discussion on that? Excuse me. If none, I'll take it over on I. Hi. Hi. All right. Thank you all. And I have a story. Yeah, I thought you probably did. So now why don't we talk about the compactor? I'll just bring you up to date real quick. I know there was an email out there. Last fall, Martin applied for a grant. There was several different things we could apply for or that were in the grant. A compactor was one of the pieces of equipment and that piece of equipment when they were in ditches and whatever compacts things. So we've got a grants for that, but the machine that they are looking at and they didn't go out to bid, there were three different bids. Is it about $650 more than what the grant was for? And the reason they were looking at a higher end one that has reverse, which I hear is very nice to have when you're in a hole and you can't kind of jimmy around or turn around. So I pulled Martin, I thought it was a good idea. I recommended that we go ahead and buy that, but I just wanted to make sure that the board approved as well and the money would come out of the budget that we currently have. That sound all right? Definitely, I would all make that motion if we need a motion to get the reversible compactor. All right, thank you, Ray. Is there a second on that? Second. Thank you, Kelly. All in favor, vote aye. Aye. Aye. Thank y'all. All right, so the next item, and this was something that I think came later today in the mail, but it was on the grader. And if you recall, we had a breakdown the month or so six weeks ago, and it was a wire that had been rubbed bare and the suggestion at that time was to put a new wire harness in. So the estimates come back, I believe it was 2,800. Is that where you have that in front of you? I think it was, yeah, I think 2,825 or 2,800, something like that. Yeah, 2,800 parts and labor rest to install the harness on site in Moortown. That is really good. So yeah, I think, I mean, we have that again in the budget, but as I think last time we had asked them just to make somewhere on those repairs. So I think we should probably go ahead and get that done, Ray. What do you think of the machine guy? Yeah, I would rather fix things now than have it break down in the middle of a grading operation in the middle of the day or at the end of the day or whatever. So I wanna make a motion that we move forward with the greater repair work the estimate of $2,800 in change, whatever it was, 2,860. It was 2,800 flat, yep. $2,800. I make the motion we go forward with repairs, not to exceed $2,800. Oh, it's back up. Thanks, John. All right, unless there's any discussion, all in favor of the motion, vote aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you. All right, you're great. Have you got anything else from the town of the word? No, I have not heard back from the survey people about putting the property pens in, but I can't tell you if it's done or not, but I don't know, I haven't seen an invoice either, but that's the only other thing that we had going on. All right. All right, for other old business pending, it's not down on the list, but we had talked about having a walk or site visit up on Freeman Hill for that trail. And I don't think it's a good idea on our first June meeting, but possibly the second meeting on the 23rd, pardon me, 21st that we have a site visit at Freeman Hill, I think it was legal 15, to kind of take a look at that, get a little more of the background because we may have some survey work to think about there. Is everyone good with that? Would that be like in 530 or something before the meeting? Yeah, probably go up at five, Don. So we're there. Oh, five, yeah. Yeah, take a little time and then we have time to get back to the office. Yep. We could go up and it would be just to take a quick look and see what's going on there. And then we can, I think there's a few things I know possibly with that road that you were talking about, although you guys said that Dillis said you couldn't find that road, right? Jess road, yeah. So, but that's something we may want to be thinking about in the future. Some of these lost roads or trails, we have one right now that we're still finishing. Now that COVID restrictions are letting up, hopefully we can get that taken care of on the other side of the mountain. So, all right, moving on. We get old business, couple little things. Our next meeting, Don, I know you're kind of doing this. We're gonna have your group here. Giving up presentation, is that correct? I know it's going to be a bad agenda. Yeah, we're preparing a little presentation on the town hall, but we'll, you know, we'll keep the, maybe it'll be two or three people from the, from the working committee. Yeah. So make sure, yeah, no, I think we all want to hear. Just make sure as you're, if you're having any meetings, they need to be complying to the Vermont Open Meeting Laws. So that means getting Sasha, you know, I think it's at least five days prior unless it's an emergency meeting and agenda. Okay. What you're gonna do so it can be posted. And then within number of business days, some minutes so that she can have those posted. Pardon me, my cat's not here. But otherwise we look forward to seeing what you guys have put together. Great. We're looking forward to it as well. Stefan, I see you're still around. Do you have anything that you want to share with us on dog catching business or anything? Or fire department? No, I'm all set. I'm just listening in. All right. I don't see anything else in old business that we have that's pending. Road closures, I think, Ray, you and Callie are still working on some things. So let's go ahead. And is there any new business that anyone has they want to bring up tonight? Don? No, I'm good. All right, the only other thing tomorrow I'm gonna be on a conference call. I know Cheryl Lynn is as well. And it's something that BLCT is putting on. It's on American Recovery Program or ACT. So we'll learn a little bit more how the state's gonna distribute that money. And again, I think we're in for a fairly large sum of money, but we'll see what the state has to say about that. But based on federal guidelines, I think we'll all have an opportunity to get some of that. So we'll report back on that. But that's all I need. Excuse me. Yep. John, excuse me. What time is that? I did see that come through. And I was thinking of joining that as well. You know what time? I have a meeting at one, I wasn't sure. Yeah, it's actually, it is in the afternoon. It's at 1.30. This is my phone. Okay. 1.30. I'll just make sure. I can send you the link to it. Yeah, that'd be great. Maybe I can just do my meeting and then join in or something. Okay. And so that's, I know another thing that actually has come up. Sherilyn has said that she's had people, and I can't recall the person who came in, but, and Don, I think it may be someone that was working on your committee, but was looking to get our town didn't number for to apply for some grants. And I think we've all talked about this. We need to be very clear that Sherilyn is the person who handles all the grants. We'll take all the information and all the input we can on them, but people can't go out on their own and start applying for town grants. Oh, no one was doing that. We were just doing a little investigative work about a grant that might be available. That's all. You know, and then if it comes to be for sure, we would go through the right process, you know, we do work with Sherilyn. Yep, perfect. Just so that, yeah, it's, there are a lot more. Actually, the easy part is getting them. We know how difficult that is following up and making sure we're doing all the right things. And so if audits come out, it is even more difficult than getting it. So I appreciate everyone's helping us. I think that's all I have. So if anyone does not object, we'll adjourn tonight fairly early, unless there's anything new or something anyone would like to bring up, discuss, or whatever. The only thing I think we may wanna think about at some point in time, is Sasha sent out the VLCT piece about ATVs on the road. And a lot of it relates back to, there was a lot of confusion with what can actually be on the road, different levels of roads. So it kind of streamlines the process for what can be on the roads, what type of road they can be on. But I believe it would be something we'd have to have more of a warned meeting about so that people knew we were talking about it. And if we wanted to make any changes, they're what we wanted to state on that. That's something, Callie, maybe you and Ray, as you're putting your thoughts together with the road closure thing, you can kind of incorporate that in. You say, look at these vehicles here are permitted. These are not permitted. We can permit these and we can do things. So perhaps in your discussions or thoughts or presentation, you can think a little bit about that. Not that you have to do all the heavy lifting and do it at all, but bring some discussion points and maybe some solutions or ideas, maybe how that might fit into the problems that we do have on the roads. Sounds good. Yeah, so you bring things up and get work. What was that, Don? I'm sorry, I didn't know. Oh, I thought you made a comment. All right, so we'll look forward to hearing about some of that stuff as well. I know in some towns they've allowed them on the streets and it's an economic boom in other places. It's been a nightmare for them. So I think there's a lot to think about when we're looking at those type of things. All right, I've moved to adjourn. Second. All right, all in favor, go to aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you, everyone. I hope everyone has a nice evening. Enjoy the weather. Okay, same to you all.