 All right. So a little after six. So why don't we call the meeting to order? Are there any requests to add or add anything to the agenda? All right. Hearing none. Is there, are there members of the public present? I do not see any members of the public. Okay. Is there anything on the consent agenda that folks would like to remove for discussion? All right. Hearing none. So again, a reminder that we don't vote on the consent agenda. It's essentially adopted without the need to vote on it. So Sarah, I believe the next topic is code response information and updates. So we had a request for some financial updates for. It's going on COVID and just general operations updates as well. So we can provide that. I've got Josh Tyler on the line as well. And I believe Josh ST is also here. So you have in your packet some quick numbers that NOLA put together for the financials year to date as far as, sorry, as far as the expenses that we've incurred due to COVID. And you can see those. Again, that's item number four. And we, as I mentioned in my executive director update, we were informed that we were not eligible for one pool of money that the state had available. We are still submitting, gathering our documents and submitting for the elder, the local government expense reimbursement, and we'll be collecting those documents through the end of the calendar year. So we expect that we will be able to receive some reimbursement for those majority of those COVID expenses. We had already let them know what we had anticipated our expenses would be. And they, the entity that is organizing that grant has indicated that that fell well within their, their program. So that is the financials as far as operations. We are all of our, our drop off centers, all of our facilities are open with the exception of the admin office as far as to the public. So we do have every drop off center is operational. We have the depot, the Murph and the ODF. So we are updating our emergency closure plan for while we anticipate this, this next wave that we are feeling that we're in the midst of. So we are working on that this week. And we can, we're looking to try to again, as much as we can keep folks in one spot. It's a little bit more difficult with the drop off centers, because we do have employees there who are in and out of Williston, we have more than the, our normal pre COVID staffing at Williston, just due to the amount of traffic that is coming through there and the materials that are managed and being handled. And because we have reduced some of the days and the hours at the other drop off centers so we are cycling more employees through Williston, but where we can keep folks to their kind of their home base we will to minimize any additional exposure. We have, you are still obviously requiring all of our employees to follow all of the COVID procedures that we've had in place since late March. All employees are required to wear masks. They are required to wipe down their services throughout the day, where is possible to not share equipment they don't share equipment. So we have to maintain a minimum of six feet of distance between themselves and any other person. We do have the plexiglass shields up in place at our drop off centers. So all of those precautions continue to be in place and are being enforced. Josh, I don't know if you had other kind of operational updates that you'd like to provide. One of the things we identified as a potential risk was when it gets really cold where people were going to get warm at. So the things we did, especially at Williston because it's our Bellard just site is we actually bought a six by six, a little tiny warming hut. We moved it to the farthest management area of the facility, which we needed anyway because that keeps a position or keeps a person in that position to manage material as it comes in but it also gives them a place to get out of the cold when they can. We did purpose to couple other structures as well so that we can minimize the amount of time people will be, you know, exchanging in and out of the booth for the most part so that was one thing we identified one of the good things that works for us is that by nature our business is outside, you know for operators so that's working in our favor. So the most current wave of COVID cases is coming from, you know, residential backyard gatherings. So you know as far as workplace COVID increases. It's not really taking place you know people kind of know how to handle themselves at work. So that's one of the things that we're really reinforcing right now with our staff is to follow the procedures we have in place. We have to be diligent, you know, so that you can say with a straight face that you were six feet away from somebody at all times and that you followed our protocols. So that's really kind of how we're focusing with our, you know, our staff and our operators right now. So we're going back to the per bed pricing at the DOC as well away from the flat fee, and we're taking nearly all of the materials that we did before there's still a few that we are still struggling to accept like hard cover books is still one of those items that is going to be tricky for us to take this time for a variety of reasons. Just there are one or two other items that are a little sticky, but by and large most of the material that people were used to being able to drop off at the docs they, they can. I think it continues to be steady at each of our sites and be happy to answer other cover related questions if we haven't hit on them so far. I did mention in my update that we will be as far as the administrative office. We are keeping that office closed. We don't have adequate air exchange in that office building to be able to house the 20 to 22 bodies that we normally do on a daily basis so we will be those who can work remotely are going to continue to work remotely through at least March. I will be looking at the situation at the beginning of March and reassessing the needs there as well. People are in the building. So the finance department is regularly on site as is operations, and they are still abiding by the protocol of, you know, to your corners and making sure that they check in that they take the temperature that they are doing the contact tracing. And that, again, things will wipe down as people are leaving and just following again those best practices protocols. So, but again, most of our folks who, again, who can work from home will be through the very early to mid spring. Questions from commissioners. Sarah, did you say that you're like preparing plans for the potential for closure or that you're expecting closure. We're up, we're updating our, our plans so just in, in case you know we don't want to have to feel if we don't have to shut everything down again like we did, we don't want to, but we need to be able to kind of put on paper, the if then. So we had some draft plans back in the summertime in anticipation of the potential for this. So we want to be prepared so we can get that out to our staff get that out to the board to say, if this happens, here's our process and here's how it will, what will look like. So we're not necessarily anticipating that we actually don't want to. But it really is if there's an outbreak or so. At this point, I don't think it's, I don't think it's going to hit to create closures and essential businesses. Yeah, and again, that's a good point we just for the newer members of the board we are considered an essential service. So we really don't want to have to close down any of our facilities. In the event we do like we had to in the spring where we had between eight and 10 people leading to quarantine at one time. That was pretty devastating. I think our main area of vulnerability is with our roll off crew. As with everyone in the country drivers with CDL licenses are few and far between and are getting fewer and far between. And we are very sensitive to the availability of our crew so we are looking at the possibility of hiring another driver. We do need additional maintenance maintenance support. So as much as we can bring another person on sooner rather than later, we want to do that so that's actually something will be going back to you next with next month because it's not in the budget. So we are now crunching our personnel budget now to see if we have space in the existing budget to be able to add a person for the beginning of the year because that that really is our main area of vulnerability. And just we do have backups with local haulers who have CDL license, but if we lose our roll off staff, you know what we accept will change. You know to more of a basic model. So it's, you know, how we're affected and what type of employees infected, affected will kind of be dependent on how we respond. And that'll that's all kind of part of that. That review document. Other questions. I have a question about the credit cards. Is it possible to speed up that process at all. Yep, so we have a call into our credit card. We have a merchant merchant person. And I'm just waiting for a call back so that is in line for Williston, and then Richmond. And then john needs to probably step in or no one can fill in on what the, the needs would be for rolling others out and how quickly we can do that. But certainly by the end of this calendar year will have those two up and available. I'm not sure if Miller or John. Yeah, John good. Yeah, we'll be ready to roll with Milton in South Burlington early soon. Essex is the one that has a little more complicated situation but we're looking into that hopefully tackle it soon as well. We'll be able to get away from cash, but we're less concerned about physical coins and paper dollars now, but we, we've long wanted to putting credit card convenience. So it's a good time as any. And so we will be putting those in and that will I think help. If there's any lingering concerns of our customers that will help with that as well. Other questions. I am curious kind of teeing off Ken's question. Just before the meeting, is it is a possible to do a virtual tour for commissioners of any of the facilities or spaces. I know that there was a connectivity issue with with the compost facility but I'm curious if there's any other opportunities that we could offer. Sure, I think the connectivity was with a Facebook live so having it be a live version but we can certainly just table walk through. That's, that's easy to do. Yeah. If, yeah, if there's some maybe dates or something that we could explore and then in the next month and a half or so. We can use some interest in that. Yeah, we could tape, tape a walk, tape a walk through, and then post that to our YouTube channel just for to see, and we can send out a link when those are available. I'm, I've not been to the Heinzberg the new Heinzberg drop off center that's one that's a particular interest I know they're only open on Saturdays. So I'm kind of reluctant to go on a Saturday if it's going to be busy but I would like to see a walk through of the Heinzberg operation. Good idea. And Heinzberg isn't too busy in the mornings that's actually the one I visit frequently so if you didn't want to go and take a look it's cost of admission is roughly $2 for a for a small bag. It's, it's no longer no more than my experience is no more than a two minute wait. So it's, it's got this is before noon. Just as an FYI. Thanks. Other questions. All right. I think we can move to the next agenda item. So let's see. So the next agenda item is the revised lease agreement for the town of Richmond and Richmond's DOC lease agreement ends on December 31. And when I attended the select board meeting last month, the select board had requested instead of a standard five year extension that they were interested in a one year extension. And they want to talk with us further about the conditions of the lease. And I think, you know, given the, the back and forth with the town over a variety of issues and their desire to kind of work with us on improving the experience for the residents at the location and our, our desire to improve that location in general, knowing that it kind of goes beyond just internal, you know, repaving and things like that we're talking about potentially a road, a new road and some pretty decent capital investments in that facility. I thought it was, it was certainly reasonable to bring a one year extension to the board and I know Logan was on was at that select board meeting as well. And they brought the red line strikeout version that you have in your packet to the select board. It was a past Monday, Logan, and there were some questions about one of the strikeout so on. If you're looking at the red line strikeout document in the packet. If you go down to page two. In section six letter E. They had a concern with language I added where it says the drop off center will be open to district residents, not more than three days per week throughout the year. They added not more than three days per week to essentially reflect that right now we are open two days a week due to staffing concerns and ability to move materials in and out. And that's due to the roll off driver concern. So the town came back with some suggested language that would essentially require require us to be open the three days but for, unless we get approval from the town manager so they just recently. So send some language for our consideration that I can either read brand or I can share my screen and show. I think it's okay if you read it. Okay. So the suggested revision it says the drop off center will be open to district residents, three days per week throughout the year. And the schedule will be posted on the Richmond front porch forum. I also want to recognize that there's some folks that are visual learners so if there's, if it would be better to see it then. I can, I can copy this into the chat box if that's comfortable for some folks unless you want to screen share it again. Are there any other leases where we have hours of operation listed. That's a good question. I think Milton does because we're closing things down. And we need to look at and then reopening things we need to look at you know what the days were, were at Milton, and their language is very similar just says if there is a days of operation. We just need to confirm with the town manager. So it's that's not unsimilar to that. And I'm pretty sure that lease does call out the days that we are open. And I believe the Williston host town agreement also specifies the days being six days a week that we should have a facility open in Boston. So Milton, could you allow me to share my screen, please, or open up the chat box for us. Oh, I wonder if I'm weapon. Oh yeah. I've got a set now I believe you can share a screen. Share everything. That's not true. And Sarah, just check me to make sure this is the most recent copy from from our town manager. This is good. So the new lease would run from January 1 2021 through December 31 2021. Did I hear you correctly and you said that it's only open two days a week now. Correct. It's only open two days a week currently pre covered was three days. So do you have any concerns about signing a lease that says you agree to be open for three days, knowing that you're clearly not now. So I would also be sending in the request and that was one of the concerns with the back and forth that I did have with the town manager today was, you know, if we didn't, if it was required that we be open, and we couldn't we just couldn't do it. What are the repercussions to the district and this is where he came back with this language to say that to make it a little softer in that allowing that the out of the hours and days of operation would be modified after consultation with the town manager. Originally they wanted head in there that we could only modify with the approval of the select board. Prior to that it was they had force mature language in there. So this is definitely a much more, I think, you know, reasonable approach, given that, you know, force measures that's a big deal. And if we had to wait for the next select board meeting say they had one on a Monday and like today on a Wednesday we needed to close tomorrow. We would have to have an emergency meeting, we, you know, it just works. So with this, I can text or call Josh and send and say here's the situation. We and I would copy Logan, we need to close the doc tomorrow for X reason. I'm a little personal person and I don't anticipate that, you know, you would say no because we don't take this lightly we want to be open. It's not that we want to close our facilities. So this, this is definitely a good compromise that came from a bunch of flurries females afternoon. I feel comfortable. So should there be something in there about holidays during the week. I mean if they're going to get this specific and we need to protect ourselves with respect to, you know, if a holiday is on a Wednesday and that's one of the days that we can. So that terminology or verbiage on it in there in my opinion. Okay. It's open on the weekends to it can be hard to reach people. So if you have to consult somebody and you also can't open, then that might be difficult. Yeah, so that's what I would need to request and I'm not sure if it needs to be in the lease document but I would just need to have Josh's cell phone and the ability to reach him at any time. I don't have anything in the, what about weather. If we have a 24 inches of snow overnight, probably not open it tomorrow. Right and that was what they think they were thinking was a force major but that's not really, you know, 12 inches of snow is not a force major. Sarah, maybe it's worth reiterating what their greatest interest was. What was our greatest interest. What was our greatest interest. So, from what I saw on emails the select board members. They wanted to prioritize ensuring that it wasn't the language of not more than alluded to the fact of not more than three days alluded to saying that there would be a higher frequency of less than three days. So removing that language, it took away some of the concern and that, you know, the district's interest is to be open at least three days, as much as possible. And not less than that. So it, it, I think it was an attempt, some of the wordsmithing was an attempt to say, most conditions we will be open three days a week, barring unavoidable uncontrollable unforeseen circumstances, in which case, the district will contact the town manager and coordinate a response and notification to towns. That's what I got out of the email. I like that one because I'm the town treasurer so people come into the office all when we close down when the collection place closed down. There was a ton of folks coming into the office complaining about a call and complaining about it being closed, as if we could, the town could reopen it. So from the town's point of view. That stability is important element. But I think it's important to say, you know, as much as we possibly would, as much as it's within our power, we're going to be open three days a week. And let them let them know that that's our intent. That's what we want to do. And if COVID comes up and we can't do it, then that's not within our power. But citizens in town were pretty irate that the place wasn't open. I say that from my point of view as town treasurer when people come and call in the office. And I did communicate exactly that to to Josh, when they brought this originally to the select board meeting up two weeks ago. So there was another email that said, it is absolutely our intent to reopen three days as soon as we can. This is temporary due to COVID so I had listed that in my correspondence with him but we didn't get that into the lease and it seems just too much to put into the lease like that specificity. And so it's Sarah doesn't say that the town manager has to approve it it just says you have to consult with them. So you're going to do what you need to do. Is Sarah this is Tim, I guess, three concerns the first. It doesn't say that it's our intent to be open three days it says we will be which sort of implies an obligation and I think that that's sticky language then this other this other word of consult. I, there's this other minor disagreement going on at the national level about what some words mean for example the word ascertainment right to go ahead and give access to GSA offices to the potential president elect depending on what side of the political spectrum on. This consultation implied you know there's a big difference between consultation and notification. So I would just argue that this basically for me it opens up a bit of a can of worms saying that the town of Richmond it has the right to go ahead and mandate when we're going to be open and approve any decision that we do otherwise. And I guess the other one is not specific to the language but just in general. I think we're really. I don't understand why we're wordsmithing individual leases with towns, these should be boilerplate very standard and if the town doesn't like it and they don't want to renew it then we should go ahead and not renew it. You know and I say that the town that doesn't have the benefit of a drop off center so you know worse. This costs a lot of money it takes a lot of board time legal time to review you know this isn't free. So I don't think we should get wrapped around the axle I don't think we should ram it down the host town's throat necessarily speaking but I don't think we should. I think we should be very direct and not have a lot of flexibility. Any feedback, additional feedback from conversations within the town or with the manager is like board. Only only to share that I think that the town has been very pleased with the responsiveness especially in light of the last couple years of interactions with CSWD in the process of coming to this language and it has both like symbolic value that that Sarah and the town manager and the select board have been able to like spend, spend that time to Tim's point and and some of that capital to to say we're really serious about working together, and we're a great way to make this work and to sort of repair some relations and make sure that there's some sort of mutual beneficence in terms of like what this does to tee up further sort of town district relations. We're not working together we are a member of a district this is a collaboration that working together implies that it's an adversarial relationship. And set up and interpreted in any way I'm not sure why but I think that needs to be put to bed. Just frame of reference. So this is just a one year extension, which gives us opportunity to kind of revisit this in a year. So just to also keep that in mind. I think the option, the alternative was for the town to not renew. So if the town did decide to not renew the lease or or approve the five year extension. Then we would have needed to notify the town that we would be vacating the site, and we would have had to begun decommissioning the drop off center Richmond, which is certainly an option for the district. I don't think we want to do that. And along those lines, I don't think it's the town and the current select boards intention to pursue that either they want to find a way to like work this out and and remain engaged in this municipality. Sarah what do you need from us right now. We would be approval. Actually, and I think everyone's also with this language living can release the screen share. We would, I would need the authorization to sign on behalf of the district to renew the to renew the lease for one year. Given the language. We have proposed language for adoption. No, I did not prepare a resolution but the resolution would be to as the executive director to find a one year lease with the town of Richmond for use of the drop off center property located in that town. I moved. Second that all in favor, what I'm sorry, discussion. With what language, what are we are the strike out our strike out version or adopting Richmond's proposed modification. The strike out version with the proposed modifications. Thank you. I have a question on that. Who will be responsible for putting notices in which form the town or the district, the district, which we, we would do anyway. So we don't normally make Michelle is on here somewhere to when we have regular either no enclosures or anticipated closures we will post those obviously on our website. We always post emergency closures to front porch form because there's sometimes a delay. Anyway, it doesn't always appear the next day, or certainly doesn't appear the same day. But we were depending on the type of closure. And I think, you know, to the point here about weather. Well, I can certainly see clarification with Josh that he's not talking about, you know, 12 foot 18 foot snowstorm that it's more along the lines of a covert closure or something that is more longer term versus something that everyone's going to say, oh yeah, of course, you're going to close But I can clarify that. And Sarah, I believe we're also doing sending push notifications for facility closures through a new app services. All right. We have a people can sign up for text alerts. So we can certainly do another push on that availability and for people know that that is a service that we do provide so yes. Okay. Any further further discussion. All right. Request the vote, all in favor. Hi. Any abstain. Any, anyone object. Okay. Motion passes. We can move to the next topic Sarah. Yep. So the next item that we have up is a review of the capital projects and so Josh Tyler is here, and we did this review with the finance committee couple of weeks ago. And what we wanted to do was just to ahead of the budget season and budget work to talk about the projects that we have going on right now, the ones we anticipate being able to move forward with this. This year, the ones that we are thinking are probably on the fence for not moving forward and need to be pushed to the next year. And then things that we may have kind of coming up in the next year to two years to three years. So we did include in the packet, the draft minutes of the finance committee where there's a lot of detail in those minutes about the funding that that committee had, you know, for reference so Josh if you kind of want to lead this group through that. Feel do feel free to be looking back at those, those draft minutes of the finance committee for additional details as Josh is walking through. And if it makes sense for him would you like me to share this place. Okay, so I will share. Can everybody see that. Yes. Um, I'm going to start out with just this is our three year outlook for capital we're starting at the Murph one of the things I'll preface this with which was brought from the finance committee we are working on a timeline and again you know just just an overall package to bring to the board and the finance committee on what our Murph is going to look like. You know, before COVID hit, we were moving forward with, you know, citing a new Murph we were going to bring some more numbers more refined thoughts back to you. We've kind of pushed that off for six to 12 months, just so that you know that. In FY 23 we see a significant amount of capital investment into our existing Murph. And that is there because a lot of the infrastructure that we have is over 30 years old. So, at FY 23 that was a pertinent time to really start if we weren't going to move out of the Murph really start taking a hard look at what needs to be and replaced. So that's when you look at that far right column and you know that $724,000. That's really what that is in the event we don't construct a new Murph or not in the process of constructing a new Murph. If we want to get another 10 years out of our existing facility we're going to have to start really making some investments so that's that's what that is. But walking you through buildings and repairs you know our tip floor is old and has holes so we constantly spot repair it. We are going to purchase a new loader this year for the Murph that's part of our contract. It's a seven year replacement the existing loader has 20,000 hours which is an exorbitant amount of hours for a loader. That is actually currently in the process of being bid right now. So, this fiscal year we're looking at $256,500 and as we get to the bottom of this whole capital projection. The Murph is the one facility that through its tip fees and sale of material it covers its own expenses for capital so we have slotted in our budget this year to put aside, you know to make sure that we have that $256,500. So, that's what that'll that's what that means when we get to the bottom. I'm sorry could you scroll down or is there any questions on the Murph hearing none I'll move down. We'll jump into the next. Next program which is the organics diversion facility and as we brought to you last month we are currently amidst the construction project we got a very favorable bid from a contractor to construct our site. We are hoping to stay under budget we're looking that we are going to stay under budget. But general, you know, this year is a heavy organics diversion facility investment year for rolling stock as well as the construction project. We're looking at about a million dollars and that is including the $348,000 we will get reimbursed by the state through a $500,000 grant it's a 6040 split. We're looking to replace one of the older loaders with a brand new loader. We are looking to purchase a dump truck that 120,000 we set aside for the dump truck we will be coming to the full board because it is over $100,000 for a purchase, we have identified that we may be spending more than that for a more equipment that fits the needs better. We're looking at a larger rock truck it would be used. So just you know as far as giving you guys an idea of what's coming down the road. That is something we will bring back to you that probably won't be the $120,000. And again, as I said we're on track with our construction project it's looking to be completed probably by the end of December but all our site visits and all of our inspections with our contractor been great. And so we are full steam ahead with that it we're really excited to get that going. One of the integral parts of that expansion project is to get that new loader that new larger loader, and to get a haul truck. So that's what we bring in the haul truck purchase amount to you, hopefully by December, maybe January. So just wanted to get the board aware of that. Josh, that was what we discussed at the last board meeting. Yes. Landfill. If you can see down there it says closed LF that's our closed landfill that we managed. There has been concerns with PFAS or PFAS. Those are chemical of emerging concern coming out of that have affected drinking water sources. Landfills have been identified as a potential source. And the state took a very, I think, a very, a really good approach they are monitoring, you know, right now so we are currently in a five year monitoring process. So that's a residual from last year because we weren't sure where where that PFAS kind of mitigation was going to fall so we have an eye on that but we do have it in the budget for FY 22 for $220,000. Our closed landfill is also about six years away from our 30 year closure plan so when you close, depending on where you close it, we fell within a closure plan of 30 years for post closure care. After that 30 years you go into what's called custodial care that's when you monitor to make sure nothing bad is happening but that has a significantly reduced financial requirement. So if we get closer to that one of the things we're putting in there is that our liner we want to just identify that our liner is totally intact and make sure that it's it's good for for moving on forward so we've got that in FY 23 for $100,000. Those are the two expenses there. And Josh on the 20 that may or may not be needed we don't know yet. The 220,000. Yeah, we that that's, that's not a, yeah, that's, we have it there in case, you know, we get the letter says you have to do something now. And so we can go to the board mean it's still over $100,000 so you'll see whatever it is we wind up doing. But I don't anticipate at this point that that will be spent in FY 22. And we're in, we're in a five year monitoring period, I think we've got three years left of our monitoring period. And at that point there's going to be a lot more research available and see what you know the effects of these low residual amounts of PFOS are in our in it's out of our leachate. We recycling leachate Josh. No, no goes to the Essex waste water treatment plant. The leachate that comes out of the system. Yes. Are we still generating electricity off off the gas. Honest answer is not really the operator has not been consistent with keeping that facility online. It runs out December of 21. And at that point what was signed for the completion in term of that contract is that we would take control of the building and the we pretty much terminate that service. So that's moving forward the plan right now. Understand the amount of gas is going down. So I don't, I don't blame the operator from not, you know, taking a ton of time in because there's just not a lot of gas left there we do have three flares on site that are up and running we manage those on a monthly basis. And those are all working then you guessed it does get generated we burn off. But there's no more closed landfills roll off and maintenance. So this is something we kind of knocked this part down or this particular programs capital budget down due to COVID expenses. So the big, big ticket items are. We are looking to purchase a new a rack truck that's our utility truck that we use throughout the district. We will get a good resell value on the one that we have that's slotted for $55,000. If we start seeing significant financial hits due to COVID. That's one thing that we can, you know, postpone, we can push that off. I don't anticipate us going out to bid for that for a couple more months. That's something I kind of want to wait and see where we wind up with this latest wave of COVID and what our inputs are as far as you know trash and recycling go are many loader. So one of the things I'm looking at doing. Oh, sorry to load Merff loader. Our South Burlington facility could use a loader so that we don't have to drive from Williston to South Burlington it also gives us the ability to manage material real time on site. So if open top containers for your containers get full we can smash it down with our own piece of equipment. So I'm looking at, as I said, for the Merff we're going to replace that piece of equipment I'm looking at hanging on to it, because it has 20,000 hours it's resell value is pretty low, but instead of, you know, instead of a 60 hour work week if we kept it at South Burlington, it would have a three to four hour work week so the refurbishing is just to go through it make sure it works and we can get 1015 years out of it we've done that before. So that's a little from the original transfer station from 1992 that's up in Milton right now. And really it's just to keep our existing loaders off the road it's a waste of gas to drive them any significant amount of distance, and in all honesty operator time. So that's one of the things we're moving forward towards is trying to get that loader into South Burlington. And that's what that 35,000 is. So basically, we're getting a new trailer, we just we haul larger pieces of equipment when we need to read them. So that's what that trailer is we've actually already purchased that trailer, because the old one was 14 years old and needed to be replaced. So that's the bulk of maintenance and roll off. One of the bigger take items just in the three year projection is we will be purchasing a new roll off truck next year. And they're pretty integral. We had to for multiple years, we kept one instead of training it trading it in as a spare and that is actually, we've seen the fruits of that decision because when trucks need to be repaired. We don't, we don't go down to one truck. It also gives us the flexibility if we're seeing say we we we contract with specific materials to manage from outside haulers. They are getting too expensive, or if they're scheduling doesn't work with ours which has happened that happened with metal. That third truck gives us a flexibility to take on managing certain materials which actually is economically favorable to us. So that replacement is in FY 22 is for our, our second oldest truck. So that's that's roll off and maintenance drop off centers. So, we're going to replace a few compactors Essex specifically the recycling compactors pretty beat up recycling in general with all the glass that goes through glasses pretty abrasive. It, it shortened it just, it takes a lot more life out of the compactors so we're looking to do two things with Essex, we are looking to get a larger mouth or so a larger opening compactor. And one of the things we've identified is that we have two yard compactors for all of our sites except for Williston we went with the larger four yarders. And what that does for us is that we saw that it works out really well for our recycling compactors that they don't bridge so it doesn't cause an operational nightmare that you get you know a large, you know, refrigerator box stuck in it, and then all of a sudden the compactor goes down so one of the things we're adopting is to move forward with buying purchasing four yard compactors for recycling the two yarders still can handle MSW. So that's going to happen. One of the things on here. We were looking at doing a full reap a grind and repave of the Richmond doc. We're going to hold off on that. One of the things we identified through installing Heinsberg and using that as kind of a newer model. With the special waste building, we're seeing a lot of efficiencies with that. So, part of that one year lease that Sarah had discussed gives us a chance in the spring to discuss with the town of Richmond, upgrading and updating their site. One of the real big conversational pieces in that in that in that negotiation is whether you know our queuing line, you know, there is potential for us to add queuing line space with some older farm roads that are next to our property. And so we really want to hash that out so I, it was $55,000 that we set aside for that regrind it's, it's in Richmond under site work. We're going to hold off on that this year. And so we negotiate with and also to make sure that, you know, after one year they're going to sign another lease with us. You know, there's no sense in making an investment if we tear it out of the ground. I feel relatively confident that that will will be at Richmond for a while. But that's those are the major ticket items there. Josh wanted to point out that in the third year out the Flynn Avenue that's the crystal ball estimate of when the work would actually happen on the Flynn Avenue site. Yeah, that was a that wasn't more informed that used to be a little higher. That was more informed lately by our Heinsberg construction. You know, we saw that there were areas that we could potentially save in construction and, you know, looking at Flynn have just because it's a bigger footprint. It's not going to be a significant increase in cost, it will be mostly more asphalt, you know, we're not going to build a bigger tip wall, we're not going to build a bigger booth. We're not going to build a bigger site. So that's why the difference between the 460 we spent at Heinsberg and the 550th Flynn have it's it's not a significant jump. But yes, that's that's our crystal ball. And FY 23, if all all comes to fruition, everything works the way it's supposed to then we will, you know, with, you know, boards blessing will go ahead with that. Any other questions on DOC's. Moving down to the hazardous waste facility the two big ticket items on all of that they're the roof. As it had at the hazardous waste facility is from back when it was a bio cells facility that some of you may remember it's old, it can stand to be replaced so it isn't. It isn't critical, but it's getting to the point where we should put you know shame on us if we don't replace it and something happens. So that is one if the new wave of COVID or something happens economically due to COVID. That's another one we could push a year, but if we don't have to I don't want to that's kind of, that's not one of the priorities to to push, but if you know push comes to shove that's the 70,000 will will save in our capital expenses. The other big ticket item is a new rover, which I think we might have yeah and under rolling stock. On the bottom there it's an FY 23 we've got a new truck as well, so added to purchase and and that is just for the straight out purchase we will trade in the truck we have or look to sell it so the net on that will be less than that amount but that's the capital amount we're anticipating for. Any questions on the hazardous waste or the paid facility. I have a question about the roof replacement, have you set up an RFP for that. We hired a new project manager and he was there today, looking at site looking at the roof. I have had our local roof construction company out there they they walked it two years ago they were up on top of it looking at it. So we've got a pretty you know that 70,000 educated. We've got a pretty good idea. The difficulty is there's not a lot of large scale roof companies in Vermont there are in New England, and to get a competitive bid will probably have to expand it to New England. But yeah the bid the bid is you know we can queue that up pretty quick. Are you wondering about solar. I hadn't quite gotten there, I was thinking about timing and, and if the expense was reasonable with within market rates. And I was also thinking about timing I mean we're coming into winter so I can't imagine that that work will be done until the snow melts at this point. So just thinking about timing was was that aspect, but certainly, you know, worth talking about solar to. You know I don't I don't know that that is within scope for this but those other questions are my primary questions. Bar in a critical failure this would be a springtime project. And we don't anticipate a critical failure. Hazardous wastes and latex. Any more questions. Are there any changes to the inside of the of that building I know we've talked about renovations from time to time. And I just don't see any anything on the list. We, we looked at some significant renovations and what we actually want to be doing was moving the paint program out of the building. So we had shared hazardous waste and paint were shared in there with moving that paint out. We found a warehouse that works in suits our needs. That's way less money than the retrofit we were looking at. So that's why you don't see those on that that on there anymore. All right, we'll move to the next one which I think is it. So we've got slotted a new server, our existing servers five years old. I won't pretend to make up anything about the server other than we need a new one's five years old, any questions to defer to john on that. But our network is extremely important right now. And that's really the big ones there. We've got a system in FY 23. Oh, and again, we've got some investment at our existing admin building for repaving the parking lot and that's, you know, that's to be discussed I think down the road with any kind of more significant Murph talk and what we're going to do with our admin office. Do we want to invest in that or do we want to rent, or do we want to build a new one, because we are running out of space and what coven is taught us is the things that we've been limping along really don't work that well sometimes. And that's, you know, that's why we can't go back into our facility or our admin office for quite some time. And adding on to that too. It's not only just the space. We are our maxed out or we were close to maxing out and then we were able to move our outreach staff moved their office into the ODF office building. So we were able to kind of disperse a few of our folks to ease up on the crunch but there was, you know, as Josh said due to coven. Now we know that we really need to take seriously the, the air exchange within that building so we are going to do some more research on the value of remaining there. And, you know, should we look at a rental or lease situation that may already have those investments made. I don't think, not even I don't think I know we wouldn't be able to retrofit that building the way I think people would be recommending that we would need to. So we'll be doing some more, more research. A bunch of firms and other businesses have looked at this work at home situation and are, you know, talking about needing like a third or less space and, you know, are we giving that some, some potential thought for the future. I think we need to and, you know, if we're looking at leasing a space we certainly wouldn't need to lease as large a space as we thought we did a year ago. So, I think it does make it more affordable for us. If we're looking at, you know, again, even if it's, it's, you know, maybe it's not everyone is permanently work from home, but we do have some employees who, who really do prefer and just have found they work better and can very easily do their work from home. So that does absolutely factor into Allen, and that's why, like I said, we'll be taking another look, you know, prior to the decision in March about how long to continue to not be actively more actively in the office. We'll take a look at those, those needs and take a look at what may be available to rent. I was just saying in summing it up, you know, the program input blue line I'm showing you is that's input from the Murph. One thing I haven't, it's not on this and will be brought to you in detail is our third party agreement, our potential agreement at our ODF. So, you know, if we go down that road, which it looks like, you know, through MOU will have a lot of back and forth with this group. We will look to probably, we will have to change the ODF setup. And so, for instance, the existing scale which is slotted in there to be replaced it's from the biosolids facility as well so it's roughly 28 years old. And that's a new scale. So there, there's going to be some site augmentation at the ODF on the active kind of working yard area that's not in here but that will be every step of the way brought to the board for discussion. But that's just one thing I haven't shown and that probably will show up till FY 22 anyway. Because we'll, we'll work through the negotiating piece of how that relationship will work out what site augmentations we need to make, and then kind of we'll be able to put numbers to that as well. So just wanted to bring that up to the board also is that we do have things to discuss for FY 22. I wanted to share that the, I don't know if Leslie's on the call but we went in at the finance committee the other week we went into all of this in quite great detail and we're generally satisfied with what what had been presented to us. I just want to call out to the rest of the board. Again, the $740 odd thousand dollars in three years out related to refurbishing the current MRF. The finance committee recognized that that really brings a lot of focus on the need for the board to focus on the new MRF and kind of make a fish or cut bait sort of decision in the next couple of years. That really rises to the top of our agenda, and we all need to pay a lot of attention to that. Otherwise we're going to be facing a lot of significant expense that potentially really won't be worth it in the long run. You're exactly right and we'll be bringing more information to the board in January about that. Jen and I are going to be working more over the next through the end of the next, this current calendar year so through the end of December on what are some of the different scenarios maybe we'll bring Josh and Nola into that as well as far as, you know, what are some of the financing options funding grants etc, so that you have a better idea of some of the options going forward because you're right and I think what the board will need to know in order to make that Fisher cut bait, you know, decision is what's it going to cost and what are we looking to ask our communities for. So, we need to be bringing that information to you sooner rather than later as well. It's also important to point out that you know we did an upgrade in 2014. We're talking FY 23 FY 24 that upgrades 10 years old so you know the do nothing option is going to get expensive soon, because we do have to upgrade what we've got, or at least recondition. Sorry. Yeah, Sarah a few months ago we looked at kind of three high level options for potential Murph sites for example, could we get something similar and if so in what timeframe for administrative least administrative space. Are you looking for just for least administrative space or for the Murph as well. No, I'm sorry, no just just for the something similar to the Murph but just for the administrative space I'd like, you know just so we get some high level numbers to understand what the implications would be because I just know the current space was was inadequate before the pandemic, and it's certainly proven to be totally inadequate now. On the other side, I think there's going to be some, you know, some, some companies that have rented space are going to realize they no longer need it. I think we may need less space but we absolutely positively need space and, you know, what, maybe I think now is probably the time to move and I would rather not see us hitch our wagon to saying oh we're just going to co locate with the Murph because then I feel like we're being painted into a corner as a board. I think that makes a lot of sense. And yes so we can certainly do that I think we would. I will talk to Amy and and Josh and Tim about that be Tim Shay, so that we can get information to certainly to the finance committee ahead of the or in time for the budget conversations. So, those start going in earnest in February so if we can have it for you for the board in January, I think that's a good goal. That would be great. Okay, thank you Tim. Other thoughts or questions that had a question about our it security and granted we're small peanuts compared to UVM but knowing that we're an essential service as well. I'm curious if there's any aspects that need to be factored into improving our information security and our backups. Yeah, I'm here. That's one thing right now we're, you know, as far as backing up our data and our infrastructure we're relying on what would be considered just a straight backup system. We've entertained the idea was called a disaster recovery system so it basically the infrastructure we have on site, typically on another remotely located machine locally and then a cloud based backup. So you sort of are triple backed up and that would be part of the somewhat higher price you're seeing for a server replacement in the capital budget. So that's one piece as far as network security itself. I'm pretty confident we're up to speed right now. We contract with an MSP who provides us with all the network security services and any virus and all the expected utilities you have there, as well, bringing all of our facilities on to our network for securing our network from, you know, having more attack surface that we've had in the past so we're eliminated so that attack service by bringing all of our sites on to a secure VPN. I didn't hear it. Alright, are we good on questions there. I had asked Sarah to bring capital projects back in front of the full board as that's an evolving topic and really don't want too much time to go between getting updates even if there's nothing to vote on. I think the discussion goes a long way and and things change rapidly and sometimes not that quickly all at the same time, it seems. So just want to continue to be diligent about bringing the conversation back and giving updates where are we on this, even if there's not a decision point so I do think there's a lot of great discussion tonight and it was worthwhile. I think so hopefully you felt that it was that way as well. So before we move on any other thoughts. Alan, the only other thing that I can mention is that, you know, the finance committee shouldn't be driving the capital budget train. The board should be. And so, you know, I get a little bit concerned when all of it's been, you know, reviewed and agreed to by the finance committee before it comes to the board. So that just my opinion. Now in my opinion is that we didn't approve it but that we're functioning really as the eyes and ears of the full board getting into a little bit more granular detail. My sense is that sometimes these things can be glossed over to full board meeting, but certainly it's not my intent that we would do anything that that usurps the full authority of the entire board. And I would I would certainly oppose anything that did that. Finance committee meeting. Thank you. Thank you so much for having and the, what we brought to the finance committee and to what we just reviewed right now was what was approved by the board in the budget in May. So it was more of a like been set an update on where we are the projects given all the coveness and what things have we had to push, etc. So this was just essentially the update mid almost midway through the fiscal year. I think we are going to be as far as the spending to date, spending that we have in the pipeline and potential spending or not going forward. So thank you. Thank you. Alright Sarah, I think we are ready to move to the next topic. So I believe that's the executive session. There's nothing else to cover. Thank you, Josh. Thank you, Josh. Alright, can I hear a motion to the language read to move to executive session. I move that the board of commissioners of the Chittenden solid waste district go into executive session to discuss ongoing and pending litigation where premature general public knowledge would clearly place the district and its member municipalities and other public bodies or persons at a substantial disadvantage and to permit staff in the solid waste district attorney to be present for this session. Thank you. Quick moment before we vote. Everybody should have all the commissioners should have a second link that john sent out. If you do not have that please stay on if you do not have that readily available please stay on the call so that john can work with you to make sure that you get it. I just wanted to make a transition over the executive session came from me. So, so john can text me if someone doesn't have it or can't use it and I will read forward the invitation. Okay. And so at this point, I will take a vote all in favor. Well, we need to move in second. Sorry. Second. Thank you. Now we're ready. Thank you. All in favor. Any abstain. Any objects. Okay. We've officially left the executive session. At this time, we would like to discuss the date for a special meeting. Sarah if you can walk us through that. I would like to send a special meeting of the full board of commissioners. I recommend Tuesday, December 1st. Time is up to you we normally meet as this board at 6pm. I think it's fine is keep the 6pm time time slot. This special meeting would be an executive session as well so it would be a one topic. I would like to send a special meeting and held an executive session. Are we. Can everybody just confirm that we'll be so that we know that we can have a quorum on that date. Yes, I can, I can make it. I can make it. That's just good. Yes. Richmond will be absent. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I'll be there. Yeah. All right. I think we will have a quorum for that night. Logan, I'm not sure if you'll have an alternate. Available. But certainly we'll invite them. Okay. The meeting will be publicly warned and we'll get that out to everybody. Have the date. All right. Is there any other business at this time? I do not have any. Right. I would entertain a motion to adjourn. We adjourn. All in favor. Anybody object. You have to stay here. Anyone abstain. All right. Thank you all very much. Thank you.