 My name is Shah Abbas, thank you for joining back again with Imam Hussain TV. So I've got a second guest, Khulud, we're going to be discussing about under one flag during our discussions about the Arbaid walk itself. And we're also going to discuss about the lessons that we've learned when we were doing this Arbaid walk, the humbling experience that we've shared and how we get implemented when we go back home. So Khulud, thank you for joining us on Imam Hussain TV. So under one flag we've got millions from all over the world and what does it mean in a bigger picture? What is it the idea? What statement is getting made? What state of unity is getting made? I think the most beautiful feeling about walking from Najaf to Karabala and then getting to Karabala and walking in Karabala streets is that every step you take, you hear different dialects you realise that you're not, there's a uniting sense where you cannot understand the other person but you know him or you can understand why he's here. It's very beautiful, very magical how you and a million or millions of people that you do not know are walking to one direction or through one direction to one destination and we all on that street start as Khulud, Abbas, this person and that person, Lebanese, Persian, this person and that person but when we get to Karabala, when we get to the shrine we are all lovers of Hussain. I think we were speaking with the guests earlier on itself is the stages of love, of how much we are in love with the Ba'abda Allah itself that we are walking from the Najaf to Karabala and one of the ways that we are showing the love is by carrying out this task of putting away the comforts of our lives and taking that step before then coming back. So how was your experience when you walked? Did you enjoy the experience? I think I was so keen on getting to Karabala I was longing to it, I skipped sleeping some nights because I just wanted to get here as soon as possible but it was also very humbling to see people who literally have nothing to serve but find something to give, if it's not water, if it's not food then it's a massage, then it's a smile, it's a chat, it's a socialization session it's just so humbling to feel like people are treating you like family when they've never met you before they feel a sense of responsibility towards you to help you when they have nothing to give but they're giving you so much I think the most important thing about the walk that we do is we have the blessings from it there's a lot of blessings that you do for the walk every step that you take reduces your sins by about a thousand and adds a thousand blessings and increases your status by about a thousand percent and the most important part of self is to think about it as you're a real person you're giving up your time, you're giving up everything for a man that you love the man I made a stand for in justice about Abdullah Hassan Ibn Ali who did that for us so going back home now what are the lessons that you would be taking home with yourself? I think it's, well it's that sense of that sense of who am I and what am I doing to propagate this message of love and kindness the most beautiful thing about walking from Najaf to Karibullah is not just that your sins are being forgiven with every step of the way you are being enriched with so much emotional openness and you are actually discovering yourself and you're not just like your physical stamina but like your emotional stamina having to walk past people who are handicapped or have problems and they're still walking you're complaining because your legs are hurting and then there's like a person who has one limb and they're walking and they're not complaining and you feel like a small speck of dust the bigger picture of yourself is you giving up your comfort level you're going to go home, would you appreciate that more? of course I mean you will understand one you will understand that you are very blessed and you definitely will appreciate your food more your luxuries more, your comfort, your water the easy accessibility of things you will appreciate them but I think the bigger thing that you will feel is that sense of I'm ready to give this up again and go see that man again and again and again it becomes like an energy ball like an energy sphere of love walking from Najaf to Karibullah not humans from London or from Lebanon or from India or whatever it's a huge sphere of light and love passing through from Najaf to Karibullah to meet its vortex it's so beautiful I think for me personally when I was walking down from Najaf to Karibullah number one, very humbling experience challenging, it was not easy it was difficult but it made my mind stronger I learnt that I could achieve these things that's the way, number one number two, as you said, food clean water, I would appreciate clean water and food more than I have family, I thought I was home actually I didn't feel like I missed my family at all I didn't even think about my family when I was here it was like a quick message to sending it a message to your family just to keep them posted about your safety I didn't think about them at all I think it's just so beautiful to think that for me, for example I came to Najaf to walk to Karibullah with a lot of pain inside of me because I have gone through something very difficult but during that walk I think I had the time to reflect to understand, to see other people combating difficulties and I realised when I got to Karibullah and got to go into the shrines I realised that that pain was gone I forgot about my pain I forgot about everything I could only feel Imam Hussain I could only feel Hazrat Abbas I think that every single step that we make the blessings apart from that was when you're thinking that I am in pain you think about Allah when you're thinking about water you're thinking about Hussain Ali when you're thinking about I am tired the insanity of love of Abba Abdullah is that by the time we got to Karibullah my ankle was swollen it was painful but I wanted to see that shrine I wanted to walk all the way to that shrine I didn't want to give up and every time I felt the pain in my ankle it was more of it's okay feel that pain it will make you someone who deserves to see Abba Abdullah it's your declaration of love to Abba Abdullah that you're ready to feel all that pain to see just the dome of Abba Abdullah shrine absolutely I think the lessons that we've learnt that we can implement when we go back home number one it's a thank you for what we have grateful for what we have number two it's the feeling of giving the giving the feeling of every single person in the land of Karbala taking us to their houses giving the food it's phenomenal it's all free I haven't put my hand in my pocket unless I want to buy something for food they beg you to they beg you to get so number two is the act of giving it's the selfness giving number three forgiveness every single time you're on the stall you're asking I'm so sorry if I hurt you you're walking on the street you're worried that you're just a bumper to someone or you're your luggage it's you know how crowded it gets and it gets really like cramped together and maybe when you're home you do not tolerate that you're like you'll probably start a fight but here it doesn't faze you patience it doesn't faze you yeah you feel patient you feel it's worth it it's for Abba Abdullah I can put up with this even if they're crushing my bones I'm fine I'm fine it's worth it so it's patience it's it's that sense of there's there's a bigger purpose to things just you know I'm stuck in this moment it's a bigger purpose I think there's a lot of lessons that we've learnt on the walk itself and it's a part of going back and implementing it our day-to-day life and also telling the world about who is saying it's Elf who is your mum saying it's Elf who is Abba Abdullah who is Elf but the lessons that we've learnt the education was stronger not just a physical experience emotional experience as well is that I've got to know my mum's more better than I would and now I think it's a matter of us going home and reflecting and energizing ultimately it is it's taking all that love and peace that you feel in the shrines and around the shrines and taking it for a rainy day back home when you feel like you're drained and tired from your routine and you remember Karabala and you feel like you left a piece of you there because you start longing to it like I'm already dreading leaving so I would like to take this opportunity to say thank you very much thank you for having me for having me Imam Hussain TV and my dear brothers and sisters we've just a day passed Arba'een we've just completed the walk from Najaf to Karabala it was a very humbling experience there were a lot of challenges but we put our mind to it to get it done I suggest and I recommend if you have not done it to do it next year inshallah and if you have done it to do it again next year inshallah and thank you for watching thank you for changing for that office salamu alaykum