 I want to give you a quick report, and then I'll give it to Jack in detail if you want. George Wallace, last night, released his delegation from their commitment to him. He will not, probably not attend the convention at all. A man named Jesse Lanier of Bessemer, Alabama, will attend. He says, of course, you're not on the ticket over there, that the backlash is unbelievable. That's potential no one's for you, that he's going to support, he's not going to support Goldwater. I didn't, didn't categorically say that, but indicated it. Said he was going to support all the congressmen over there, although they didn't support him. And then he went on and... Yeah, who is this? This is George Wallace. Oh, George Wallace, yeah. Alabama. But Lanier, Lanier is going to speak for him? Uh, Jesse Lanier will be chairman of the delegation. Now, he says it's probably the Alabama delegation going to the convention to raise hell. Uh, he doesn't, he doesn't think you ought to be kicked out, but he particularly thinks we're in trouble over there and going to be in trouble. Doesn't know that there's anything we can do about it, except to quiet the talk as fast as possible. He said he would like to support the Democrats, he doesn't intend to support the Republicans, but he's going to spend his time working for the Democratic congressmen in his state. He said, uh, there will be uncharted hell if, uh, under this bill the funds are cut off under any federal programs in the state. It's about the net of it. No, uh, no vice presidential, uh, problems there. The problems we'll have will be, uh, both presidential and vice presidential. Uh, but nobody's working on these vice presidential candidates. Got no problem. Jack Campbell, New Mexico, there, there, he's in charge of their delegation. They're just waiting to, for you to indicate, uh, who you want for vice president. They don't have any problems with the delegation. They think they got some trouble in the state, but they're not too worried about it. They are worried about civil rights backlash, but they don't know how deep, uh, Jack doesn't know how deep it's going to be. John McKiffen of Louisiana says, rough, rough, rough. He said Northern Louisiana and his opinion would go 80% for Goldwater. Northern Louisiana. He said that he talked to some of the senators from two parishes in South Louisiana last night. They indicate you can't carry South Louisiana. Uh, they think New Orleans as of today would go to Goldwater by substantial margin if you can't carry New Orleans. In South Louisiana where they have a heavy Catholic population that you can't, there's no way you can carry Louisiana. John McKiffen is worried about it. He's very doubtful now that he would even go to the convention. Uh, if he doesn't, Marshall Brown, the National Committeeman will go. He's talked to Orville and Faubus. Faubus says that things are extremely rough in Arkansas. I couldn't get Orville. He's out of pocket. Uh, he just has a say that, uh, you can't carry Louisiana. Uh, he said last night he had a meeting with a bunch of unions in the upper state, uh, upper part of the state of Louisiana. They're not AFLCL. Most of them are independent unions. He met with them. They supported him against, uh, the Free Port Oil Man. And, uh, he was working out some patronage problems with them. He said that those, uh, laboring people, he just said there about it does nothing. That, uh, labor goes to you to a man. I'm reading you some notes. Uh, delegation is split. They're all types. They range from liberals to, uh, segregationists. Uh, although there's basically no problem. They've got control of it, uh, if things go well. He says that if Mississippi and Alabama are not seated, uh, in the convention, that he doesn't know what will happen. He just thinks it would have unsured hell. Uh, he says he wants to be for the Democrats. That he is not going to support Goldwater. But, uh, if, uh, vice presidential thing turns out where he can't, he can't support, uh, take it while he's just going to go to sleep, he said, taking a nap. Or he's not going to do anything. He is violently opposed to Bobby Kennedy and almost equally opposed to Hubert Humphrey. He says the situation is extremely serious for Louisiana. Who's he for? Oh, he's for you. No, I mean, uh, for vice president. He just, uh, almost anybody. He just says anybody that won't hurt him. He said Humphrey and Kennedy both would hurt. He said, it don't make a difference who it is, just so that it's not somebody that rave a wet flag. He said, I don't have a candidate. Couldn't care less. John Dalton in Missouri is going to be chairman of the delegation. Delegation, mildly conservative. He says you definitely do not need a Catholic. And he said, if we ever get this idea that you got to have a, uh, a ethnic group or religious group on the ticket, he thinks it's a great disservice. He felt pretty strongly about it. He said Bobby would wreck us. He said Pat Brown's a thug. Uh, couldn't go with him. He said he'd take Humphrey over McCarthy. But, uh, there'll be for you and for whoever you want for vice president. He said Miller's not going to cause you any trouble, whatever. The fact that he's a Catholic. He said Miller's a low grade individual and a low grade Catholic. He said it's very little back in your eyes on civil rights in Missouri. He said you're in excellent shape in Missouri. The mayor of St. Louis told me, uh, that he had been mayor many years and he'd been in politics all of his life and he's 67 years old. And he had never seen people as likely to go wild as now and there's absolutely no way you can anticipate him. And this thing could just, uh, could backfire so quick you don't know what to do. He said that they just, they, everybody's got something that they've been against through the years and they're quite frustrated and everybody from a woman having changed life on down to somebody that's afraid of never going to move next to him or somebody that's afraid of never is not. And he just says that he's surprised that everybody getting jobs and doing well just finds they are but that is it and don't underestimate it and so he who does, does so at his own peril. That's exactly my tip. This John Dalton gave me the only good report. He said the local Democratic ticket in Missouri is not in good shape and it's not a good ticket necessarily. He says that as it now stands you can carry the local ticket through but the local ticket isn't going to help you with that. Well, Long tells me that he thinks that my parents stay and work on a dam and promising things can help you through that yesterday at lunch. Senator Long but he says his son has got the worst opposition he's had. He'll make it but he said to Governor they may elect the Republican Governor. Well, that's about what John Dalton says. Now John Dalton says if you get somebody like Bobby Kennedy on this ticket you can frankly beat the whole local ticket. And he's talking about Governor Senator and the works. He said I don't think it would mean the president would lose Missouri but he said I think he'd beat everybody on the local ticket. He said you'll have to carry the local ticket because it's basically weak. He said if McNamara were the vice president he'd call some grumbling among the old party hacks. He used that expression but they'd fall in line. So that wouldn't be their first choice among the party professionals. Don Russell of South Carolina says we're going to have a hell of a time in South Carolina that he's for the ticket he's for you and he's going to support you. He said please, please, please anybody but Kennedy Rumpfrey. He's going to head the delegation from Thurmond's already backing out and now says he can go. Now incidentally all of this is in confidence although I think they all understood I was going to tell you but they called some names that they didn't know. I'm sure it won't you to pass on. He said many of his delegation are getting weak needs. Strong Thurmond's already found some excuse now why he can't go. He says that he thinks very definitely that the southeast needs of whatever bomb and whatever salve now you can give them. Now he said those of us who stood against Wallace and Don Russell did he said we did it and took a hell a lot of heat and hell a lot of pressure. He said as far as I'm concerned I'm damn glad he's out. I'd prefer to have him out eating though some people might think it's going to help goal water. But he said if Bob Kennedy is on the ticket heaven and hell couldn't save South Carolina. He said he thought he saw some Bob Kennedy activity because Fritz Hollins tried like hell to get on the delegation. He couldn't get elected either at large or from his district. And a district attorney who was appointed down there wanted his wife to be a delegate. This district attorney was forced down the two senators vote by Bob Kennedy but they began to smell a rat so she's not on the delegate list and then suddenly the DA had just come from Washington at the time he made this move to get his wife on the delegation. Nor the DA are on there. He said Hubert Humphrey is not much ahead of Bobby as far as their choice is concerned. All of it on the count of civil rights. He said that if the Alabama Mississippi had not ceded it would cause serious problems and be extremely embarrassing for them and they don't know what would happen. He said he could go for Dick Hughes or Jackson or Flamington or down to anybody. I believe what Roosevelt once said that you never get a vice president it will help you. All you want is one that won't hurt you. And he said you got to get the president's got to get the votes himself. So the best thing you can do is get somebody that ain't gonna hurt you and you don't make a damn of what he helps him or not. It's not gonna help you much in any way regardless of who it is. He said that brought this up. He said he doesn't think that any Catholic could have ceded it on the ticket. He said almost identically what John Dawson did. He said that if we get the idea across the country that you got to appeal to this ethnic group for that religious group to make up a ticket to run for president or vice president we do a great disservice to the country. It's Don Russell. Ferris Bryant says things are in much better shape. Down there the suits out of the way and said very frankly and confidentially that the congressmen and senators are very reluctant now to be identified with the Democratic Party. The chairman of the delegation for instance won't go to the convention and won't serve on any of the committees. They won't put some of their congressmen on these committees and they don't want to serve. They'll find excuses. He said we're in real trouble. He said he thinks you can carry a date in Broward County. That's Miami and St. August. One other big town. St. Petersburg, I believe. But he said Go Water's going to carry the rest of the state. The other day 45 senators met state senators and only three of the 45 would now say they're going to be for you. He said it's not that bad but it's an indication that only three of them would pick up and say they're going to get out and actively support you. He said he's going to support you. He has supported you. And he said to his successor, the nominee for governor has said that he's running for governor. He's running his own business. He has nothing in common with a national ticket. He's not running for president. He's running for governor. He said that's about all he can do. If he says any more he's going to tell me that. Humphrey says would hurt Bobby would be disastrous. He says he's going to lead the delegation. He's going to be helpful. He wants to be helpful. If Alabama and Mississippi are not seated, he says that he don't want to help. That would be extremely embarrassing. Albertus Harrison is going to head, Virginia is going to head the delegation. He says of course that everything is civil rights. In the area he comes from in southeast Virginia, he's had a 70% Negroes in school age, 30% whites. It's going to be a very, very serious problem. He doesn't know at this moment what's going to happen. He says it's a little too early to tell. He's going to support the ticket, has done so. He's going to try to do everything he knows how to do. He thinks that we've got to have a little time and the more we can play down this civil rights thing, he says you've got to stop these rights. He doesn't say we've got to stop the rights and the disorders. He said if they continue, God only knows what's going to happen. He said there's not any way we can hold this thing. He said Bobby Kennedy on the ticket would be disaster. He said he'd just forget the deal. It's not overwhelming. Now those are the only ones I've been able to get. Carl Sanders is in New York, Paul Johnson is out camping. Frank Clements is out camping. Paul Johnson I couldn't get. And that's about to run down. I think that's an accurate report. That doesn't change anything that I thought. I felt that way and I think it's going to get worse before it gets any better. I think that the craft pole in Alabama shows how deep the field is. That's kind of a weather vein of what ultimately spreads on this kind of a nation. Now I don't know how anybody can stop what they're doing on the Freedom Party. I think it's very bad. And I wish that I could stop it. I tried, but I've been able to. And I've had O'Donnell trying. He hadn't been able to. It may very well be that Bobby started it. I thought last night I couldn't sleep about 2.30. I woke up and I tried to figure what I would do if I were a candidate for the last president. And I was going to be confronted with what he's going to be confronted with.