 the right ingredients and we have to do the job, and that if we have the right ingredients and we do the job, that the vaquita can be protected. Welcome to our rolling coverage of the war here in Israel. I'm Nicole Zadik live in Tel Aviv. It's been 19 days since Hamas launched a full-scale attack on Israel. Israel has yet to begin their highly anticipated ground incursion. As Israel continues to pound the Gaza strip in preparation, more terrorists are still trying to enter Israel. A handful of Maas terrorists attempted a seaborn attack near Zakeem Beach, but were killed by Israeli naval forces. Meanwhile, Syria fired rockets towards Israeli communities in the Golden Heights. The IDF struck several Syrian military targets in response with fighter jets hitting mortar launch sites. Now the United States is preparing for this type of a regional escalation, sending a fighter squadron to the Middle East with F-16 fighter jets. While this says political leaders go head-to-head at the UN Security Council. After Security General Antonio Guterres suggested Hamas's brutal attack on Israel was in response to Israel's continued control of Palestinian territories. Now certainly quite a lot to unpack with all the latest developments of the war here in Israel, but we're already again on Israel's northern border where I-24 News correspondent Robert Swift is standing by. Robert, a relatively quiet night overnight but still this sense of tense calm and that escalations could erupt at any moment. That's correct. I mean yesterday we were saying it was quite quiet and then there was a couple of large security incidents so the quiet can be quite deceptive. Last night about five hours ago Israeli jets struck Syrian military positions. That was in response to rocket fire into the Golden Heights which took place towards the end of yesterday evening. This was attacked against Syrian military infrastructure and mortar teams and it was the second retaliatory attack from the IDF with artillery firing into Syria shortly after that rocket attack. Now at this stage it's unclear if the Israeli military is striking Syrian positions due to the fact that it has information suggesting that it was Syrian military that fired those rockets or if it was part of Israel's policy of holding Syria responsible for any fire that emanates from its border. Now there was also further deaths announced by the Hezbollah group. Its fighters were involved in a clash with Israel just in the hours of the early evening yesterday. A large-scale fight which took place when Hezbollah fired anti-tank missiles and mortar shells onto Israeli military positions. The Israeli military responded with artillery fire, tank fire and a drone. That brings the total number of deaths announced by Hezbollah so far since the beginning of hostilities here in the north to around 39. Robert, definitely the sense that it's not just Levin on border we're keeping an eye on Syria as you mentioned as well. For residents in the area up to five kilometers they've been asked to evacuate, correct? But many I hear are still standing the ground still staying in the area. What have you seen as far as the residents up there? That's right. So communities up to five kilometers have been ordered to evacuate and it's sort of a mixed bag. There are some within that five kilometer boundary that do still appear to be there. Not everybody has the financial means to leave. Some, you know, they just don't want to leave their homes. On the other side of the coin there are some people beyond the five kilometer boundary who have chosen to leave. One village that we filmed from yesterday was about eight kilometers away from the border and one resident there told me that they thought about 30 to 40 percent of the population had already chosen to leave. The five kilometers range that's about the range of an anti-tank weapon. So that's possibly the reason that the Israeli military has set that boundary. But Hezbollah and the other militant groups are operating around there. They do have other weapons systems that can go beyond that range. So, you know, some people just don't think it's worth being here whilst the hostilities continue. Our correspondent Robert Swift on the northern border. Thank you so much for joining us and giving us the latest on everything that's happening. I want to bring in my studio guest with me right now, our senior editor, Guy Azriel, joining us. Guy, quite a lot of action that we've had. And before we unpack all of the latest, I want to get to what we're happening on really the three fronts of the war now. But before I come to you, I want to introduce another guest, retired Cornel Mary Eisen, who's joining us. She's the director of the International Institute for Counterterrorism at Reikman University in Israel. Mary, thank you so much for joining us. I want to talk to you because as we were speaking to our correspondent, Robert Swift, who's up near the Lebanon border, he was speaking about those recent strikes in Syria, really preparing for possibly a much more wider regional war. And that's exactly what the United States is preparing for as well, sending in a new fighter squadron, F-16 fighter jets to the Middle East, all kind of in preparation for this to really escalate further. There's no question right now that we are looking at the challenges that everybody understood from Saturday, October 7th, meaning Hamas started this attack, Hamas committed those atrocities. But we've always been looking at what is Hezbollah doing? Because I remind us, Nicole, that we were expecting an attack like this from Hezbollah. They prepared similar type of plans they were practicing and training for similar type of plans. So when we look towards Hezbollah, we look towards Lebanon for the last decade since the Syrian war against Bashar Assad and the retaking by Bashar Assad, they have deployed, they, Hezbollah, have deployed their own forces on the Golan Heights. And there's been an in into Syria itself, different Shiite Hezbollah backed groups that are the ones that are firing against Israel. So that's most definitely what's been under the surface for the last two and a half weeks. And it just keeps creeping higher and higher. Mary, you bring up such a good point because Hezbollah has truly been the greater threat for Israel for years now. Hamas was kind of under our noses the entire time, but proves that they were a very large threat as well. And so now as the military is preparing for this ground incursion in the south, saying that they are going to completely eliminate Hamas is now the time also to completely eliminate Hezbollah as we've proven that our threats are sometimes even greater than than we think they are. It's so interesting, you know, it's like we want to talk about this on a theoretical basis. So I want to be clear, does the IDF have the capability? Does the Israeli country have the capability? Absolutely. As we see in trying to and going forward in eliminating Hamas, Hamas is within part of the Palestinian civilians that are inside the Gaza Strip that both support him or don't support them, but they are all interconnected. It's very difficult to do the difference between them. And so when we attack Hamas, Hamas weapons, Hamas caches of weapons, Hamas tunnels, Hamas booby traps and Hamas terrorists were also being there are civilians that are surrounding them, both supporters and non supporters that we keep telling to move. So to your question, Nicole, what do we do with Hezbollah that is in the same type of situation, but in Lebanon, a sovereign country, a country that has in and around 10 million people, Hezbollah, Arabic speaking Shiites in Lebanon are part of that country. So to eliminate it, as I said, the IDF in the state of Israel, we have the capability. The price is one that the Palestinian people and the Lebanese people will pay very difficult to decide. Mary Eisen, thank you. I want you to stay with us. But I want to turn to my guest in the studio, Guy Azrael. Guy, just yesterday, we saw from the United Nations Security Council, definitely some major claims coming from the security general himself, Antonio Gutierrez, about these brutal attacks, October 7th, claiming that maybe there was a reason behind them. Yes, a lot of backlash, a lot of fire from Israel. Obviously, following this remark from Antonio Gutierrez, saying that the attack did not happen in a vacuum, obviously, Israel was not willing to accept any excuse for this Hamas attack. Gutierrez later going on Twitter, saying the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the horrific attacks by Hamas. Those horrendous attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people, nonetheless, as well as called on Gutierrez to resign from office saying that he justifies a crime against humanity. And I made that a lot of news coming from the US as well regarding Israel's plans in terms of the ground operation in Gaza. President Biden was asked yesterday whether Israel should delay its ground operation and his response to Israelis are making their own decisions. We also heard from White House spokesperson, John Kirby, about the possibility of a ceasefire. Maybe let's take a listen to what he had to say. We want, as I said from the beginning, we want to see all measure of protection for civilians and pauses in an operation is a tool and a tactic that can do that for temporary periods of time. That's not the same as saying a ceasefire. Again, right now we believe a ceasefire benefits Hamas, a general ceasefire. Yeah, so obviously the question of the ground invasion is something that is looming here in Israel 19 days into this war since the Hamas attack. Israelis, many Israelis are asking themselves, what is Israel's waiting for? Obviously, there are so many different factors involved, including the readiness of the idea of preparing the operational guidelines to the troops on how to eliminate Hamas. This is not an easy task. In the middle of that, a lot of talks about certain negotiations for the release of more of the kidnapped in Gaza. We saw four women released so far. Obviously, there are things under the surface that we are not aware of as well. And speaking of just those hostages who have been released now reports also the IDF is dropping flyers throughout the Gaza Strip, urging any Palestinians with any information to come forward about these hostages. But how reliable is that and how likely are any Palestinians who actually use this so-called secure line? I have to imagine there's a lot of fear. Obviously, look, the IDF is investing a lot of efforts, both in terms of the operational efforts and the intelligence efforts. So that is certainly one of them. Obviously also interrogating or just questioning those who managed to return from captivity. We heard from one of them, you have it yesterday speaking about a massive operation of tunnels there. Underground. We know that have been separated. She or self was part of a group of 25 people later separated into five, each of them being taken care of by a separate guard. So that is a very complicated task. But if the IDF will get information, at least about a group of people that they know their exact whereabouts, obviously, we can expect that they would do whatever it takes to release them. OK, and as you're talking about everything that is happening in the Gaza Strip, I want to turn to our correspondent, Jonathan Regev, who is in the South right now near the Gaza border. Jonathan, as we were hearing from Guy, just about the imminent possibility of this ground operation, whenever it does happen, it keeps being delayed 19 days now. But what exactly are we preparing for? Is this going to be full troops going in or is it going to be a mixture of troops on the ground, little by little, airstrikes? What should we expect? The truth is no one really knows, no one really knows because the notion was a week ago and two weeks ago that it's just about to happen. And now we're hearing more and more voices saying that Israel should go in, but only after basically a pounding, the Gaza Strip pounding Hamas compounds as much as possible from the air, there was a sort of an understanding that Hamas was well aware that after such an attack, Israel would come in and therefore was well prepared for that and going in right now with full power would be sort of falling into a trap. So maybe it would be better, first to pound from the air and second, to have sort of a siege on Gaza, not so much on food and water, but especially on fuel. Why fuel? Because that is something that Hamas would need to keep its bunkers going and if fuel does not go in, therefore eventually there will not be enough electricity to run, to provide for example air conditioning or communications in the Hamas bunkers and then the leaders would have to eventually pop up and eventually be killed. There are many in Israel that now believe that this would be the right thing to do. First pound Gaza from the air, have a siege as much as you can and only then come in with a lot of ground forces but what will eventually happen, we simply do not know and have to wait. Jonathan meanwhile as we're talking about what is being withheld from the Gaza Strip we know that also more terrorists are still trying to infiltrate to Israel. Just yesterday we saw an incident near Zakeem Beach, the IDF also now striking back at some of the tunnels that the terrorists used to infiltrate into Israel. Yes, Hamas still has surprises for Israel if for example on Monday there were far fewer alarms and rocket alerts throughout Israel and there was perhaps a notion that they do not have the ability to fire as much as they did in the first few days. Then yesterday, Tuesday was completely different. There were several alarms in Central Israel and in Be'er Sheva and Hamas proved that it could still fire and it also proved that it could still, it still has a possibility to at least try and carry out some sophisticated infiltration attacks. This one specifically in Zakeem was thwarted, it's not clear exactly how many terrorists were killed but it is clear that there's quite a large number of them trying to infiltrate from the sea so this thing is far from over and Hamas despite all these really actions still has quite a lot of abilities. And meanwhile Jonathan I know we're keeping an eye on this out there but also another front, the West Bank continues to be very hot. We heard overnight also the IDF striking and killing three Palestinians in Geneva. That is true. Israel is using the fact that all the attention is now on Gaza to have quite a large operation against terror cells in the West Bank mostly Hamas. There's always before this war began a concern that an operation that would be too strong in the West Bank would lead to a response from Gaza. This concern is now obviously no longer there and Israel is acting strongly against Hamas in the West Bank. This is a clear opportunity to get rid of Hamas not only here in Gaza but in the West Bank as well. A very strong Israeli interest and this would also be a Palestinian interest. The Palestinian authority does not need a strong Hamas presence in the West Bank Israel and in the West Bank and Israel clearly doesn't need that either. Jonathan Ragev reporting from Israel's south to the Gaza border thank you so much. Now I want to come back to Guy Azrael who's joining me in studio as we were just speaking to Jonathan about the three fronts of this war really. I think it's important to remind our viewers about how hot the West Bank has been for months now. Nightly arrest operations, nightly raids really all eyes were on the West Bank yet now that seems to be kind of put to the background. A completely different reality from what we were used to for so many months now. We've been reporting here in studio about the influx of terror attacks across the West Bank and also some of them inside Israeli territory but emanating from the West Bank, mainly from the northern West Bank, the areas of Jeanneen and Nablus the IDF has been conducting nightly raids, nightly arrests to take these terror operatives during their operations. At the same time the now Gaza has transformed the entire attention obviously of the IDF and of the world media but the fact is that these terror operatives do continue to be active in the West Bank that is still a danger for Israel obviously with the fact that it is much much easier to infiltrate Israel from the West Bank from the West Bank as we at least thought that it is difficult to do so from Gaza, well that fence did not hold up but for now the makeup of the troops on the southern border is such that doesn't allow that free infiltration much easier in the West Bank and therefore it is very important for the IDF to be vigilant for the sheen bet and obviously they have much better intelligence there than they do in Gaza. And meanwhile I want to turn back to retired colonel Mary Eisen as we're talking about just the intelligence that we need in order to prevent these attacks the IDF really stretched onto all forces right now not only the northern border the southern border the West Bank and abroad all of this intelligence is crucial though in continuing to prevent these attacks continuing to the different terror cells that remain all throughout Israel and its borders. Have Nicole and that's something as I said before that the IDF certainly the intelligence community know how to stretch and know how to do obviously it's very challenging but let's be clear right now Hamas declared all out terror war on October 7th what they're trying to do right now is to get the West Bank Hamas supporters and terrorists to come on and out they are obviously hand in hand with Chisbala in the north and as we've said Chisbala is 10 times stronger and we haven't even mentioned in our discussion this morning Iran behind so when we're talking about yes no ground operation it isn't just trying to get to and destroy Hamas capabilities trying to get and rescue the hostages it is also about the broader sense none of us none of us Nicole want in anyway for Hamas to be portrayed as winners and right now they're continuing attacks of going against Zikim of trying to do things inside the West Bank that's them for their audience their base trying to show see we're in a war we're doing well they are not they started a terror war we are eliminating them they are hiding behind the civilians and they do have a lot of supporters and that's part of the challenge all of the time those supporters can surround them and when we target the terrorists we bring out leaflets two civilians in the Gaza Strip and saying don't stay around the terrorists because if you do we will see you as terrorists as well we're telling them that upfront so I really do think that in that sense it may or may not be ground operation today or next week but this issue of Hamas the connection to Hezbollah that greater connection in behind to Iran that's all part of the decision making process on when to do it and hovering around everything the hostage issue Mary you're talking just about this greater threat that we all know and it's Iran and all of Iranians backed proxies that they're using to fight in this war however as Iran and other outside threats continue to get involved it seems that other outside sources United States now reports that Australia sending troops to the Middle East as well all backing Israel and other factors I hate to even pose this but as Iran continues to get involved is it beneficial as Israel continues to receive this support from western allies right now what we're seeing is the response of the entire international community that is on this side that understands what we're talking about that this threat is not a threat against Israel this is not about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and I say it with a heavy heart in that sense and I've said it so many times before the biggest losers of Hamas's terror attack are the Palestinian people when we look at the participation of the United States and at both the visits and the behind the scenes actions all for diplomacy certainly when it comes to the hostages but all of the world right now is worried because Hamas is called Muslims in the world that's 2 billion people this is not about Islam but that's what Hamas is trying to do and we have already been through horrific wars in a decade ago with the rise of ISIS Hamas is trying in that sense out of the Palestinian world and this is not the Palestinian world but they're trying to raise those voices again so this is not going to help Iran this is going to be very clear cut and it isn't a question of believing we have both the capabilities and capacities to destroy these terror forces it's not about the civilians the price will be high Mary Eisen thank you as we continue to keep our eye on all of the different proxies continuing to target Israel but also as you said the threat to all of the western countries now one of the items that is absolutely complicating this is the hostage situation I'm joined now by another guest Talia Lebanon the CEO of the Israeli coalition for trauma Talia thank you so much for joining us now as we talk about the hostage situation this is all part of the trauma that continues to build within Israeli society at least 220 families still without their loved ones this is incredibly difficult and as the weeks go on the trauma continues to build yes absolutely it is really only part a very difficult part of what the Israeli society is facing but there are other parts there is the part of the families that had to leave their home for 20 minutes those who lost family members I think what you are referring to in speaking about the hostages is the fact that for many families the uncertainty of what is happening is adding to a very deep feeling of loss and anxiety and really not knowing where this will take each and every one of them but unfortunately that uncertainty for everyone in Israel right now Talia Israel is built on trauma really as a country the Israeli population has this shared trauma throughout the country so by another incident like this I know the trauma continues to almost unite people in a sense I'm not sure trauma unites people I feel that we are all sharing a very deep sense of loss and grief of many many things the loss of people but the loss of basic assumptions such as the meaning of what home is not safe being a parent for many not safe anymore the government or people who will take care of me not safe anymore hope is something that people are trying to figure out where do we find it resilience these are things that we've been holding on to for many years and now many of them are broken we don't take them for you know as part of our lives and it's a very big process that everybody is going through whatever wherever they are on the circles of impact because now where so many people are drafted so this is a countrywide uncertainty too and so when somebody asked me whom are we sharing to when we speak about who needs aid and therapy or care I think nine million people in Israel need it because everybody is exposed in one way or the other for what is happening but of course the first and foremost are the people from the south who have been exposed to this I don't even find the words to this horror well and speaking of those families those communities in the south as you mentioned so many of them evacuated from their house after experiencing unspeakable atrocities how do we move past this how do we build off this how do those people return to their homes after such a scarring experience well first of all I don't I don't think we are still at the place where we are talking about moving past it these people are in grief for many reasons the chapter of the current war has not ended there are still seems to be more terrorists still in the borders of Israel there is a lot as I said and you said uncertainty about those who are kidnapped who is still alive and what will happen to them and also they just came out of this experience in their home so they are slowly I think I hope they are trying to stabilize themselves you need to imagine leaving your home with a plastic bag within 20 minutes now you are staying in a hotel room one hotel room with 3 kids because you want to make sure that there are enough hotel rooms for your neighbors this is going to take a while so when we are talking about where we are at the moment I feel as a mother and as a therapist and as the director of the Israel trauma coalition that we are slowly connecting to basic values exactly and so thank you so much for just all of your insight on this Talia Lebanon joining me from the CEO of the Israeli coalition for trauma certainly a lot to unpack we are going out for a break 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with Hamas continues we bring you first hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by Hamas follow us as all fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on i-24 news 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 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