 Feeling pretty bad yesterday. As a matter of fact, I was feeling pretty bad the day before yesterday. Feeling bad yesterday. So I want to thank you all for your well wishes, your prayers. I was feeling a little bit better this morning, starting to feel a little, I don't know what it is again. Who knows? Maybe it's COVID. But two things, two things pep me up. There were two things that made me feel good. Two things. Number one, knowing that I'd get to spend an hour or so with my smart Christian family. And then the second thing that made me feel good. The second thing that just perked me up and made me feel like I was on cloud nine. Once I heard that, that was ready to go. Once I heard that I was listening. I'm still feeling bad. My throat is still sore. But I'm a champion through. I got my coffee and I got my intro song. All is good in the land of the living. All is good in the kingdom of the Lord. How are you all doing? Hope you all doing well. Hope you're all doing wonderful. You know what? Let's do a, I don't do it very often. I think I may have done it once or twice, just once or twice. He had a dog on grandkids and then one of them, my three year old grandson, who is sometime he had the audacity to ask his mother if he could stop by today to see me. And I said, well, I don't know if he should be in my presence because he may not have been the one that gave it to me or he may have. And so I decided to come on, come by. I run out, run into the car and take a look at him say hi with his little cute little bad self. But you know what he did though? This little fella, he know my name is Corey, which you all know. Hello. My name is Corey. How are you? My grandson, his little brother, his name is Corey. Now he always calls me pop, pop, not pop, pop or pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. That's his name for me. He's never called me Corey, but today he said bye Corey. Okay, that's funny. Anyway, with his little bad germ care himself. I'm pretty sure he's the one who gave it to me, but put a shot of whiskey in the coffee and honey. Well, Janice, part of me being released. I cannot be consuming alcohol, but I don't drink alcohol anyway. I've never liked the taste. I just never have. Even as a little kid, you know, the old guys, they take you by, hey, come on, let you sip a little of this beer. I would drink it because the old men were drinking it, but I never really liked it. We got to college and you'd have a drink in your hand. My drink stayed in my hand. I didn't, if someone gave me, if you put something in my drink in college, wouldn't have done anything because I wouldn't drink it. I don't, I just don't like it. So that being the case. But let me just ask you guys this question. This is a YouTube thing. It's a real YouTube thing. I just want to do it. I just want to do it every now and then. Could you just go ahead and tell us where you're from? Where are you watching from? Where are you enjoying this video from? Where are you listening to this awesome soundtrack from? I just want to know. Youngstown, Ohio. Tyra, you're in Youngstown. Listen, I've got some, one of my father, I can't remember, I think his name. He's dead now. He's dead now. But one of my, one of my father's partners in crime, and I said crime, I mean, was from Youngstown, then, then it ended up moving to Toledo. So New Jersey, Davis is from Toledo. Let's see, A. Renee, Alabama. Hey, your brother Greg, Frisco, Texas. Meek is in D. C. Spokane, in D. C. North, two people from North Carolina. Okay, let's see. Let this thing move a little bit. Albuquerque, New Mexico. Who lives in Albuquerque? No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Brooklyn Park. Brooklyn Park, Tennessee. We're in Tennessee, Jordan, Chicago. Get out of Chicago, shite, no, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Virginia Beach, Miami. Altamonte Springs. Never heard of it, but sounds like it's lovely. Miami, Boston. Do not lie. I cannot stand the Patriots. Sorry, love the Patriots. PA, ATL, Texas. Ashes in Texas, San Diego, Jacksonville, Arkansas. Is that AR? Hold on, wait a second. Arkansas. Yeah, Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Arkansas. I didn't know it was such a place. Michael, let me thank you for the Super Chat as well as you too, your guy, Ty. I cannot speak. Thank you guys so much for the Super Chat. Rogersville, Alabama. Now I gotta ask you guys, are you Roll Tide or are you War Eagle? Roll Tide, Roly War Eagle. Which one are you? Kings in Ontario, Texas. Amen for Texas. The entire state, just from the entire state of Florida. Shytown, Travis Air Force Base, there you go, D.G. There you go. Travis Air Force Base in California. Toronto, Houston, Griffin, Fort Worth. Hey, Rashad and Fort Worth. Tampa, Florida, Washington, D.C., New York, baby. Why do New Yorkers always have to put the baby on there? New York, Sydney, Australia. Good day, mate. Planet New Jersey. What is it? What time is it in Australia? I love to know. Unique Workstations at work in Los Angeles. What time? I'd love to know what time it is. Columbia, Maryland, T.T. Tony, you're also in San Diego. Okay, auto influence. People love to say where they're from. I just how many how many y'all live in the same state or the same? Not the same same city that you grew up in. Janus is in Arkansas. You all know where Forest City is, right? That's where I was in Arkansas. Linsburg, Virginia. Oh, actually, you're in Dallas. Okay. Debbie is in Philadelphia, John A's in New York State, the whole state. He's representing the entire state. Jay is in New Zealand. Amen. Amen. Amen. North Las Vegas as opposed to the regular part of North Vegas. New Boston. Where's New Boston, Texas? I've never heard of it. Never heard of it. Miami. Jade says slow moat coming. Maybe later. Maybe later. Richmond, Virginia. Daryl King. Tanya's in the UK. 24 trillion miles from Alpha Center. I like that. I like that. That's good. That's good. There's what is it? What'd they say from about about Lubbock, Texas? When I was living in Lubbock, what does it say? We are. Oh, what is it? What's the word? We are 100 miles north of nowhere, 500, 500 miles north of hell, something like that. I forget how it goes. I forget how it goes. Dynna is all over. Dynna is in uh Cal, she's what do you know? She's in Florida. But by way of New York, Sergio's in Dallas. Hey, you guys in Dallas, is it almost time to leave Dallas? Is it almost time to leave Dallas? Amen, Jackie. Amen. Oh, oh, you're in Terre Haute. Terre Haute. The if, listen, in Terre Haute, if you are a federal inmate and you're going to die, they're going to put you to death. That's where you're going. More than likely you are going to Terre Haute. That's where they put people to death at in Terre Haute. Ask me how I know. The reason I asked about Dallas is because I'm actually uh I live in a lesser city outside of Dallas right now. Okay. Some of y'all, I don't know if you're old enough, but Dallas used to be we didn't have eight lane highways and stuff like that. It is good. It's it's man. It is rough out there on these streets. It's rough out there in Dallas. It's like the people that drive on the streets, drive on the streets like they're driving on highways and on the highways. Listen, it might, it might as well be uh the Audubon. Compala, Uganda. Oh, Uganda. Amen. What is it like in Uganda? Not that I'm ever going. You were stationed, you were in the, you were in the military? Okay. Station in El Paso. All right. Let me go ahead Chief's Kingdom. Don't stop. Don't start that mess, Steven. Chief's Kingdom. But you got, you know what? You have that right. You have that right. You guys won Super Bowl. So, you have that right. You have that right. All right, guys. Let's go ahead and jump into it. I want to cover something that I wonder. I wonder. Ghana West Africa. Amen. So, we've got Africa. We've got uh Europe. We've got North America. Do we have South America? Anybody from South America? Or, oh, in Australia. Australia. That's four. That's four uh different continents. Uh let's see. Do we have any? Well, anyway. We'll never get seven unless, unless, you know what? I'll take it back. We might get seven one day. One day, we went South Africa, Johannesburg. One day, we might get somebody from Antarctica. We might get someone uh in Antarctica. Ireland. Amen. Amen. I used to, I used to be nervous about people in Ireland. Um this was back in the day with all the the bombings and so forth with uh uh what is the the IRA? Yeah, IRA. It was not no not NRA. IRA. We got Antarctica. Who's in it from Antarctica? Haiti. Haiti's here. Haiti and Antarctica. Two polar opposites. Anyway, let me go ahead and get on this. One of the things, if I just had IRA, there it is. He's always worried about that. There was every of it seemed like every other day there was some sort of bombing. Like wow man listen this rough over there but how many y'all remember when we were younger in school? My kids were asking this question. How many y'all remember when we used to have these little bomb drills? Not bomb drills like someone called it. As a matter of fact, totally different meaning now. Not a bomb drill with someone causing a bomb threat. No, a bomb drill where you know the the sirens go off and you have to get either underneath the desk or go down to the cellar to the to the mean by remember that does any of you guys have that? I remember that as a little kid. Yeah, under well, listen under the desk. We had different drills where you go under the desk. Some drills where you go in the hallways if it's or if it's a tornado but your entire remembers. Yeah, you have to remember guys in maybe the early part of the 80s but definitely in the 70s. We had to have these little drills because we never knew what Russia was going to do. You never knew. Remember what in a lot of years were moved from the the Cuban Missile Crisis and so these little air raid sirens would go off and we would wonder is it a test? So yeah a cold war or something. That's how monkey moves. Anyway, one of the dumbest drills we had there was a when the kid actually called in a bomb threat. It's a dumbest drill. We had to go outside and stand beside the building we're thinking wait a second why are we standing beside the building that they're going to blow up but no one thought that through. Anyway, I asked you guys this question some time ago so when I asked you again this is very very important. I said this thing is the most important thing that you can do as you're studying as you're growing. So let's go out on a limb and assume that every last one of you are Christians. I believe you are because why else would you be here? What did you do next? You don't you being a Christian is is great but there's a next step you want to grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord as Paul says. So how do we do that? Well obviously by reading his word and so forth obviously with fellowship and so forth and prayer and just praising him but how do we get there is by reading the word and so the question that I asked the question that I've been asking is in regards to your hermeneutics. You have heard this word before and so no one has caught off guard. What is your hermeneutics? What hermeneutics do you employ? Now I won't use an actual technical definition but all it really is is the method that you use to read. I've told you mine. Mine is a literal grammatical historical x-axis called the literal historical grammatical hermeneutic. Is that what it is? I get the order of the actual technical phrase mixed up but it's basically literal historical grammatical hermeneutic. Now you also may hear it called a dispensational hermeneutic. That means that you are dispensational or dispensational list but a dispensational hermeneutic is the literal grammatical historical hermeneutic. Now yeah Darth Kitty I'm going to comment on that either this evening or tomorrow so I will yeah I've been checking that out. Very disappointed in my and my good friend and my good friend Rick Warren. I need to call Rick up and ask him what is he doing. But anyway I'll back to this though. This hermeneutic it gets a bad look by some people because it's attached to dispensationalism and there are some people who do not like the term dispensationalism. Now truth be told everybody is a dispensationalist to some degree it's just how far you go with it. If you have your charts or you name the different dispensations I've never done that I've never done that. Wait a second I see you I see I got you Curtis listen you got some shout out to my wife Kendra Smith please Kendra Smith where are you from uh Curtis and where is Kendra? Where are you two at? I'm gonna assume that you both are in the same city that you're just separated by or maybe she might be in the right room with you but Kendra Smith hello sweetheart hope you're having a wonderful day react like a radio station now so um we're gonna start doing birthdays and all that kind of good stuff thank you did I see yeah I saw he left a I saw he left the Demon Slayer's group whatever on earth are they gonna do well there you got this it's almost like you got the DC villains and the Marvel villains over here so it that's all um one bad guy left the villains over here went over there so but the reason why it gets a a bad view the hermeneutic gets uh looked down by looked down on by some people isn't because of the hermeneutic itself I can promise you it's not that I can promise you that anyone that would have a an issue with a literal grammatical hermeneutic I could I'm going on a limb and I probably shouldn't I probably shouldn't because it's probably somebody uh that doesn't feel this way but but from the Bahamas amen I think what it is is is the conclusion that people with a dispensational hermeneutic come to now not all folks with a dispensational hermeneutic uh oh you're going to get Michael you're going to get a Greek fix today uh if I need a Greek fix everybody that has a dispensational hermeneutic or a literal grammatical hermeneutic historical hermeneutic do not come to the same conclusion the problem is it might lead away from some closely held doctrinal positions my issue is this if you read the bible and if you're not consistent then what you might find yourself doing is reading into the text your own doctrinal stance reading into the text your own ideology do you know what we call that hello Latanya you know we call that we call that isegesis now it's a dirty word in in um uh in christian circles because it should be it's you taking something outside of the bible and reading it in it's you taking it and maybe making that passage mean something else now the reason why you should never have a problem with a dispensational or a literal grammatical historical hermeneutic is because that's the one that that's the hermeneutic you always use your entire life i want you to realize this guys and i want someone to prove me wrong you have used that hermeneutic your entire life when you read c spot run when you read dick and jane when you read how many have read that when you read um what's the other dinosaur Danny and the dinosaur that's the hermeneutic that you read why because it's just natural it's just us us christians we get to the point to where we read in the bible you know what this this this mystical book i think some people believe it when they open the bible up lights just come out and angels start singing so that's not the case that's not the case now i know some people who are calvinist who have a dispensational hermeneutic that's fine i don't care i don't care what your conclusion is at least just yet i care that you read the bible the right way now we can all read the what if we all have the same hermeneutic that i mean that all of us are going to come to the same conclusion we're not but at least we know how we got there are you with me so what i want to do is i want to cover a few things i want to also as we go talk about the difference between exegesis and isegesis exegesis is is basically just reading out taking out or leading out what the passage says which is the right way isegesis is leading in reading in putting in what the passage says from an outside source all of us have been guilty of isegening at one time or another all of us have most cases though we hopefully we exegy in most cases hope we do that you want to be consistent though you want to be consistent and that's the issue again if you're not consistent if your hermeneutic or the way you read the bible changes well then the question is going to be how how what on what basis should the should the script it's a good question this is a good question should the scripture give answers by the scriptures sure in other words i think what you're asking is do we interpret scripture with scripture we should however here is where the danger comes it's gonna sound like that's crazy when you say the danger is in doing so there's a danger thank you uh monologon thank you for that here's the danger if i take what this passage is saying and force into this other passage and these paths are talking about two different things if the two passages are talking about two different things and i want to read what let's say for example classic example and we and we're probably going to talk about this today if i see what he's doing with a Gentile believers the church writ large including Jews and Gentiles and if i force that into what he said about Israel we got a problem remember there is an order to what's happening i don't believe by the way let me just say this it's all right see you later um somebody who's just super excited to be a nut job but amen amen uh you can go on your own channel friend on your own channel you can do that but what i we're gonna look at some scriptures and we're gonna see if if we're reading it correctly if we're reading it the way because remember i now i'm opposed to this really big differentiation between the old testament and the new testament i understand why we say it how we use it because it gives us a line of demarcation to to know where we're talking from i i get that but as god is is giving us his scripture if he's unfolding his scripture okay if he's unfolding his scripture he didn't say you know what this is going to be old testament this is going to be new testament uh what it ends up doing sometimes is it has the effect of causing us to look at the the the books like they don't belong like they're and this book belongs on this shelf these books belong on that shelf and there is this uh continuation of what's got of what god is doing it even causes us to look at the god of the old testament differently than the god of the new testament it's the same god i heard someone say that uh the god of the the god of Judaism is not the god of christianity yes it is that's an absolutely dumb statement to make it really is the god of Judaism is the god of christianity it's just the jews who have failed to recognize that Jesus is that same god of Judaism and so it ends up having the effect of making the two books at odds they're not what god said in genesis he didn't change his mind once he got to malachi and decided to start something new in matthew mark luke and john are you with me sometimes we do that because we see a big break a 400 year break in the word of god and so we think that uh oh wait a minute and so we shouldn't do that so i want to go ahead and even look at some examples now let me just give you just a rough definition of some of this literal grammatical uh historical hermeneutics when i say literal i mean taking the literal plain meaning of a word and or a text what does it say the literal meaning of a word of a sentence of a text the plain understanding if the plain reading makes sense then go with it if it literally if if it makes sense reading it literally then go with it if it doesn't and we're gonna look at examples where you cannot take this literally well the same thing when we read or when we speak if i'm talking to kids if i say um if if my three-year-old grandson starts hopping around and says look pop pop i'm up i'm a bunny we didn't really mean for me to look at him like he's a bunny or actually he just might take that back he just might but we use figures of speeches similes metaphors idioms in our everyday language and when it happens we actually know what we know it at the time think of think of a figure of speech or idiom that we use think of one raining cats and dogs it's burning up it's burning up out there it's a sauna outside you know what i mean by the way in in the dfw area it is a sauna it is wow it is muggy out there so we get that i didn't have to i didn't have to stop in what i said and say you know what wait a second wait a second guys hold on i'm getting ready to use a figure of speech i'm getting ready to use a metaphor i'd have to do that we get that so take it as literally as you can until you can and we're gonna look at some examples when i say the grammatical i mean applying the rules of grammar to the word and or the text this also includes uses of syntax as well we don't think about syntax uh so much but we should word order absolutely matters to some degree now in greek and or hebrew as well but mainly greek word order doesn't matter but it does matter it's one of those things when you if you start studying greek they're gonna tell you first thing word or doesn't matter but then they'll start using in examples of where it does matter it's just one just like there's always rules and then there's an exception to the rule or rule to go on top of that rule um so that's what i mean by grammatical so we'll apply that to the reading which necessarily means i'm going to need a if i'm doing yeah all grammars league if i'm going to do a study i can use a niv but i better if i'm having an iv i better have a um and i know some folks some grammarians don't like people to use uh in a language i think in a language are good to kind of give you uh get your feet wet when it comes to thinking about the languages um but you need to be able to study the actual word if you're going to do a word study you need to be able to study the actual word the niv is more of a thought for thought the kjv in a i mean asp so forth those are word for words and so you look at those words do not do this guys don't what i see folks do they'll take a word and they'll look up the english definition of the word don't do that please don't do that anyway that's good dirty pet walls i use a kjv and the niv in tandem because you're getting the thought and the word it's just hard it is just hard to convey your thoughts your feelings on paper as easily i mean it's hard to convey the thought and the words word for word exactly the same it just is you can convey the word for word or you can convey the thought but if you convey the thought you're gonna have to add some word to try to elaborate on what you're saying and so therein lies the problem of the translators and then the fact that english much like every other language is always morphing words that we use today we might not use them in 20 years or we might use them differently some words have fallen out of fashion some names have fallen out of fashion so all right anyway uh and then the historical understanding the sequence or chronology of the text books events and prophecies these are important in other words is a timeline that's happening are you with me so let's go ahead by the way and i've i've used this before and i think i mentioned before that i've got this from a good friend dr cone um but i think it's i think it's perfect the way he laid it out as we look at the timeline of the old testament the chronology of the books there's chronological books there's complementary books and especially when we look at the prophets i said before we don't have major and minor prophets we have prophets who are prophesied to different people and so those things are important so when we hear Jeremiah speaking or we hear Nahum prophesying we need to know who he's prophesying to what's happening why where is it all those sorts of things and so we will look at some of those as we go so now what i want to do is i want to get into some actual texts now before i do and i didn't catch it i didn't catch it i didn't catch it guys so go ahead and tell me again do you all know what your hermeneutic is i've heard different and especially if you don't have a literal grammatical hermeneutic i would love to know what what yours is has english existed since the tower of babble we have no archaeologically speaking we have no discoveries of english at that time as a matter of fact english is one of the later the later form languages and so no i don't think it exists then as a matter of fact greek did not exist then interestingly enough explain the ghc layman i'm not sure Wayne marsh Wayne marsh what is the biblical hermeneutic what is the bill and listen most people's why i said most christians just don't know because most christians hadn't sat and thought about huh what is my hermeneutic now the one that you just naturally used is going to be the literal grammatical historical now explain but okay i know i didn't want the words i want i want you to explain it how does that work how how does that work i heard the reason i asked a question someone said i am i um oh what was the term one guy had a historical hermeneutic okay explain that to me how does your your historical hermeneutic work one guy said i have a crystal centric hermeneutic and so when he said so i said well what does that mean what does a crystal centric hermeneutic mean any i don't know well my hermeneutics my hermeneutic centers around jesus okay the problem is then when we look at the old testament and they don't have no idea about jesus but this is supposed to make sense of them and they're reading it how does that fit everything everything points to jesus sure it does but how does that how does that relate to this passage that's my point and i'm gonna i'm going to use i'm going to use uh some passages to see how you read this i want to see if you guys believe in a i'm gonna i believe the passages for the most part some of them you won't some of them you won't some of them you will you are you will employ a literal grammatical historical hermeneutic never really thought about it i didn't either at first someone had it all right let me let me think about it why do you why do you say wait a second all right friend since we're talking about bible interpretations of what why do you say the nasb isn't good the reason why i said question is because if you if you say it isn't good one you have to tell us why you can't just hey this isn't good or this is the best you've got to give a reason why but then the problem that you're going to run into is that some of the best scholars on the planet with regards to greek and hebrew are going to beg to differ what is it about the nasb that you have a problem with is just the nasb is what about the esb what about the rsv what about the net bible so that what is about it i know i use i use the nasb i use the esv i use the new king janes version i'll go to the king janes version time and time but yeah i i agree diana i agree anyway so let's go ahead and go to some passages let's go to genesis one no genesis two let's go to genesis two and i want to see how you got no not genesis two not genesis two let's go to this passage let's go to exodus 2011 no i'm sorry i'm sorry not there not there no genesis two genesis two one forgive me guys thus the heavens and the earth were completed and all their hosts by the seventh day god completed his work which he had done and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done now here's my question here is my question you said it has i'm glad you said that it has missing verses uh that's my problem which verses are missing are you going to say the verses that are missing are the ones that the king the king janes version has how do you know the nasb has a missing versus the the king janes version hasn't added them i want to see if you can make that work and you're not going to be able to i'm just going to be honest with you you're not going to be able to anyway uh so here's my question how many days did it take for god to create the earth how many how many days i would say according to this passage especially verse two it took seven days now uh fumani says seven little days what makes you say seven little days i'm i'm well actually six days we said the seventh day we say the seventh day uh so is he so he rests he he completed his work on the seventh day which he rested on so my question is going to be the word day how how how long is that how long is a day took six days but was it six that could it have been six cycles six periods that we now call days were they 24 hours well if we take a literal a plain reading now someone non-christians might go and say well they might actually i think so too uh good juju sundown to sundown uh i think that no this is a period a million years a thousand years a hundred thousand years but you would have to start spiritualizing or reading into it good question there Henry Henry hit it Henry hit it what was time back then well here's the question when this is written who wrote this who wrote this passage moses wrote it who is he writing to who's reading it these jews who are reading it moses rices book around the same time that he's writing um that he's writing exodus leviticus numbers and do the correct how would they have taken the on or day how would they have taken it they would take they would have taken it as a 24 hour period how do i know so because if i go to exodus exodus 20 and 11 he says for in six days a lord has made made the heavens and the earth the sea and all that is in them and rest on the seventh day therefore the lord blessed the Sabbath day so he tells them to not work on the seventh day so he's talking about seven little days the way or six little days that we understanding on the seventh little day to rest and then he compares it to what to the same creation event in the past they're with me so we have a reason to take it literally matter of fact we always have a reason to take it literally until we have a reason not to take it literally are with me does that make sense i know it's a it's kind of basic but sometimes need to be basic for a little bit i got a question though can if you guys think of a time a reference to a specific time or number in the bible that's not taken literally can you all give me a number a reference to a specific time or number in the bible that we should not take literally and i know there are going to be some that are going to say well so now think about it for a second we can come back to it if you don't have if you have to go and look it up a number a specific time or a number that we should not take literally now i want you all to do in favor give me give me the the passages as well you know the issue is the issue is the it's not that they don't want to know how to avoid sin the issue is if you how do you how do you know how to avoid sin by reading the bible all of our answers are going to still come come with this all right let me look at some of these some of these questions team man says there's a good one six six six well first of all a couple things one we're not even totally sure if it's six six six it might be six one six because the the two earliest um fragments uh that deal with that passage in revelation literally say six one six so might have an issue but it may vary on that one we don't know if it's literal or figurative we have no idea because we don't know what it means we simply don't know what it means sherry says seven times seven that is actually literally that is him referring to a literal a literal time forgive seven times seven um he is making his point with israel because he's taken and he only says it to israel to jews uh he's making his point about what he's doing with israel remember he said that he's gonna he's gonna punish them seven times and so what was the seven times seven times seven d and so what is he just making his point about i think and we'll go as a matter of fact we're going to go to that passage later on daniel's um prophecy or or his word from the lord about seventy sevens um the cattle of a thousand hills he doesn't say that it is that he you would take that literally too pick a thousand hills he didn't say all the hills are only numbering a thousand so the count the cattle that are on a thousand hills which by the way that's an idiom of that day but even if you were to take it literally which thousand hills any thousand hills someone says a day in the lord is like a thousand years i mean a thousand years like a day to the lord he didn't say that a thousand years is a day a thousand years is like a day let me pull this passage up there it is but do not let this one fact escape your notice beloved that with the lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like one day notice he's using the word like hosts which is like it's as it's as he didn't say it is and we do that also when we explain something it's like this it's like that it's like fire shut up in my bones it's like this it's like that uh let's see what you say this one okay yeah that's same someone gave me the same passage let me see is there 139 is that one do you so you don't take the you don't believe the 490 years is uh you don't take that literally i i take it literally because matter of fact let me hold off on that let me hold off on that we'll come back to that because we're gonna come up to that dad your prophecy and you'll see why i don't it's 490 years total but it's not to be taken as 490 uh successive years consecutively i see another one let's see or no no that's actually literally that's little um for every not every day that you spy every day uh equate to every year which would be 40 so yeah that that's literal well remember what he's saying though the he the reason why you got to remember why jesus asked is making this statement though with the with the 70 times 7 first of all how did you count 70 times 7 okay so i've forgiven you 70 times that's one set of 70s now i'm now i'm going to forgive you another set of 70s wait there's a reason for that now is it making an illusion to what he literally said yes it's making an illusion to what he literally said about the 70 times 7 this is only some of these numbers like the 70 times 7 is spoken to jews why he's putting it by the way this is also in the scriptures for us to understand the benefit of it okay let me look at this last one and then we'll move on for one second i don't know why i don't have this after okay so you say that that's not literally are you saying that you wouldn't take uh layman you wouldn't take this um this 10 days you wouldn't take that to be literal 10 days now it hadn't happened yet and so i don't i don't know why there would be a basis for not taking it do not fear uh what you are about to suffer behold the devil's about to cast some of you into prison so that you will be tested and you will have tribulation for 10 days and and they're on deca so is days 10 so 10 days i don't there's no basis to not take it take it literally it'd be one of those deals well when it happens we'll see oh okay okay i said okay i said you do okay all right so now let me go over a few more passages and all we're really doing guys i want to just show you i want to see if whatever you think your hermeneutic is does it does it fit does it work let's do this let's go to uh let's do let's let's have some fun on this one let's go to john layman did you say that you were also uh that you um you know greek too right did you say you teach greek or you're studying it i can remember what you said but here's one where this all of us who believe that jesus is you said yes i asked you two questions you said yes i don't know which one studying or teaching it here is one where the literal yeah may help may not but the grammatical portion of the hermeneutic does so when we start reading the passages remember there are rules to our languages whether it be english whether it be spanish whether it be french or in this case he or in this case greek so so we look at it in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word was god the problem is going to come up and you're going to see people who do not name with jesu witnesses who clearly don't know how to read and will make up something like their like their uh former founder charles tays russell in the beginning was the word the word was with god now here we have this the grammatical part this is where michael's asking for some greek please greek fix and arcane halagos uh kai halagos aim prostan feon kai feos and halagos the problem is going to come up with this word with the the definite article the the definite article the the don't get mixed up because the definite article changes looks different from time to time where here the definite article the is high here it is high here is time um here is high high again here is time where's some other ones uh but here is the definite article uh hey all it is is uh tay all it is is dependent upon the noun that it's referencing it's going to change if it's if the noun is masculine feminine neuter than so too with that definite article that is going before it uh as a matter of fact if you were studying greek one of the things that you want to do is uh one of the best lessons i was taught is to circle or make a note of i would say circle in pencil every time you see the definite the definite article the it's going to help you out tremendously because it helps you know what is being spoken up points to what's happening who is happening to and so forth so anyway the problem that we have here is that uh the word for god the first time we see it has a definite article the second time we see it faeus does not the issue is and this is what you call this this uh noun is what's called a norther's means it does not have a noun i mean the definite article but here it does the definite article there one is norther's one does one has the definite article one does not the problem with it well for some people is that how come this doesn't have a definite article and why do we think that it is the god i know we don't say it the guy in the beginning was the word the word was with the god and the word was the god we don't say it like that we want to make this uh we want to make this to mean uh you know good english when you take it from the ink from the greek or the Hebrew you have to have to make it make good sense so this is where uh exactly jeff this is where syntax comes in and this is where the rules come in first part you see in english how we write something out in english we already know what is if i say that um well just like this in the beginning uh was the word well then what do i already know is the subject likely the word the word was with god and the word was that so we understand that the word is the subject but in greek we've got to figure this out also so in greek we've got two nouns which one of these nouns is the subject especially since word order doesn't matter it's possible that a word a noun can be second and be the subject however in this case though and i won't go into all different rules but there is one rule that you need to understand the first noun uh that we see is Lagos the second now that we see is Phaos or in this case Phaon so the question is going to be which one is the subject well the greek rule is going to tell us that the first noun uh with a definite article how Lagos is the subject both of them are nouns and both of these are um wait a second make sure okay so the question is which one is which one of these is what's called the uh the predicate nominative the second noun is going to be the predicate nominative the rule states of what a predicate nominative is and we have this in english also the predicate nominative is going to describe or classify what the subject is which is why this is important because god Phaon or Phaos is the predicate nominative is describing what the subject that which is the word is so Phaos or Phaon describes what Lagos is which is why he says and the word was god now interestingly enough though Kai Phaos and Lagos our english says um has word before it has has word before it has god but in greek Phaos actually comes before Lagos and so in this case we're going to have it thrust to the front and this is where the word or it doesn't really matter or it does matter because now it's just giving emphasis on what the actual subject is it would have still meant the same thing even if the word order was different but it's just giving extra emphasis such like we see in uh John 4 i can't think the passage where Jesus is stating Jesus is stating to the woman at the well she says uk andra echo and Jesus says it he says andra uk echo which is to say a husband not you have so he he gives emphasis to the andra yeah you're right a husband a husband you show you show right missy poo you don't have a husband so sometimes there's emphasis on the word by the word order being being pushed to the front that's part of what's happening here but the main point is is that this is the predicate nominative this is where the grammatical portion comes in of this verse to let us to let us know that the word is God in other words that Jesus who we know is the word this would finish reading John 1 we'll find out that the word took on flesh and we beheld his glory this glory as of the only begotten of the father that's Jesus and who is he was God in the beginning was Jesus or the word and Jesus the word was with God and the word Jesus was God or uh cafe I sang that was Jesus so I'm speaking rough but I'm trying to make the point you also have some of these greek rules she was some lost me too you also have some of these greek rules such as you have you all heard of this you probably heard of this uh and may have heard of it not even know what it's what it's talking about this rule called the grandville sharp rule this is another rule that helps us to understand who Jesus is before I do that let me let me pull up one one verse that uh is improving his deity that we don't get a lot of pushback on but I want to see if you can see the see the point here the grandville sharp rule you'll see this tsks which is uh the definite article with a subject top uh the subject the k is chi in the subject again so second peter two i'm sorry second be the one one we see this example and it's not a controversial example but it's going to show you the rule simon peter a bond servant and apostle jesus christ so we have that here we have simon peter um servant that's a subject um but and because he's a um proper noun this fits so this proper noun uh subject i'm sorry um uh the noun here chi and and then a noun again so was peter bond servant yes was peter apostle yes are we talking about two different people or one person we're talking about one person like you would say the the command the president and the commander in chief if i say who the commander in chief is we're talking about joe biden the president joe biden are with me uh or commander in chief is the commander in chief is commander in chief so that wouldn't actually work for the commander in chief and the president so in this case we see peter who is a bond servant and apostle same person not two different people the reason why i bring it up is because here's a controversial example that we have in titus 213 this rule tells us that it's still talking about the same person and so in titus 213 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great and our great god and savior jesus christ this is where this rule comes in again our great god and savior here we have uh two megaloo feu which is the definite article and then the noun followed by the chi and then another subject savior virus jesus christ so the savior and this great god is the same person one of the same according to the rule the reason why i'm not not to confuse you but the reason why i'm bringing this up is because when we even in our english are trying to figure stuff out and we're not quite sure there are grammatical rules to help us to point out what's happening same thing with greek same thing with hebrew and so oftentimes many times you'll hear your favorite teacher preacher pastor might refer to a greek or hebrew rule to tell you this is what this means this is what it cannot mean it can only mean this let me give you an example that you all can relate to even in without knowing greek you'll still be able to understand it even in english Ephesians 1 3 in Ephesians 1 3 he says blessed be the god and father uh of our lord jesus christ who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing by the way that rules right there as well that grandville sharp rule blessed who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in having places in christ here it is just as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless here is where rules of grammar take place even in the english it's the exact same working whether it's in the greek or the english we have a noun we have a verb but we also have a direct object and an indirect object i've used this example before if i say i threw the ball that's a that's a complete sentence in and of itself i threw the ball i i'm the subject through the ball the ball is the direct object our english word order dictates that granted in greek word order can change but we can know even in greek what is the direct object and what is the indirect object here's how we'll know uh he chose us the us the us is in the accusative that is the direct object and then the alto is in the is the indirect object it is in the dative so in greek datives indirect object in uh in greek accusative is the direct object so even if you don't know the greek now if you just look on the screen though you'll see at the very bottom alto is in if you look at the bottom just below me where it says pronoun third person masculine singlet in the dat that's dative so that is the indirect object so how does this work well if we're speaking about how god did his choosing how god chose who did he choose us he did not choose christ to be the vehicle that we are that we will be chosen in he didn't say christ is the vehicle that i'm corporately electing you guys to be in that is not what he's saying not according to greek grammar or english grammar granted the greek grammar takes precedent we just wrote it in good english to make it make sense uh but he chose us to be in him are you with me this is where the grammar the grammatical portion of it comes in sometimes you don't quite see it um because it's we're looking at the greek or the hebrew but then sometimes even the english and in this case the english bears it out so the english in this passage because it's written just like the greek would have it be written lets us know who actually is chosen are you with me now let's go over some passages let me go ahead and jump into matter of fact wait wait a second before i go let's go to john 316 we've covered this passage and i'll get off of the grammatical portion portion right now for this for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life so if we are reading and we are doing a study if we are reading and we're studying most famous passages that we have so let's go and look it up and see if we want to a word study for god well for god it starts off with the word hutos um not for the four of the garras post positive which is mean which means that when we translate we'll put the four in the beginning but the hutos is in this way such as this is how this is the way god showed his love now we have to go back to the previous verses verses 14 and 15 really verse 14 to see how was god showing his love like this like this what he said what he's speaking up previously but this is how god shows his love that he gave i'm sure this is how god showed his love to the world now it's not saying that he gave his son because he loved the world no that's the wrong way of reading it's not saying that god loved the world so much that he gave his son that is not how this is written it's saying he's showing how he shows his love for the world now he's getting ready to tell us why he gave his son he gave his son uh host atonement time monogany and okay so so that the son the only one of his kind he gave why did he give his son henna when you see this henna we're gonna think of in order that but it literally means in order that because of this is the reason why he gave his his son in order that this is the reason why that all the believing ones in him uh may have a lot of time i'll aka zoe i don't even wish they will not perish ever they will have eternal life they will live they will have life uh into the ages that being stated because we're doing an actual word search we're looking at the actual words so if you had an inner linear or something like that you would look at each word and then you would now it might take a while but it's fine because this this is one of these verses verses where it's helpful to take a in-depth an in-depth look at each word and how it's written okay he gave his only son the only one in order that all the believing ones what believe one if you happen to be a believing one in him if you happen to be believing now i know we'll come back and say whosoever believes in him but it's really not the word whosoever and there by the way there's a greek word for whosoever it's just not used there what he's trying to convey is that those who are believing in him will never have to perish are you with me now why is this important why is this important well here comes a historical portion of this remember jesus didn't just he didn't just wake up one day you know let me go down to earth and just start something new no he's not starting anything new as ezekiel as uh what's the guy's name i forgot the guy's name already naked demons is speaking to jesus jesus brings up this issue about being in the kingdom of god you cannot see the kingdom of god unless you first be born of what born of water and spirit born from above born again born of the spirit he you he explains it three different ways he explains it okay well he explains it three different ways being born from above which is born again going to end up being born of water and spirit and being born of the spirit are you with me this is where the literal grammatical historical hermeneutic helps because Jesus did if we go back to the passage Jesus it seems like Jesus took the conversation in a different direction naked demons as far as we know as far as we know we don't really know who who began the conversation jesus could have said hey what's going on naked demons and niggas they say hey what's going on jesus how you doing we don't know how i'm i'm being funny but we don't know all we know is this is where the conversation takes up and so naked demons says rabbi we know that you have come from god as it didn't sound like that's the beginning of the conversation it sounds like this picking up in the middle of the conversation but who knows but this is what's important rabbi we know that you have come from god as a teacher for no one can do these signs that you do unless you come from god so he's speaking to Jesus he uses term rabbi so what even if we didn't know who naked demons was we know he's Jewish because Gentiles weren't going around calling anybody rabbi they didn't have a rabbi so Jesus seems to change the course of the conversation again we don't know what the conversation was initially so he says truly truly i said to you unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of god now here's the problem though you can take this literally if we're doing a literal study but there's two ways you can go literally with this either born again a second time which is by the way is exactly how naked demons took it but there's a second understanding which is to be born from above either one of these ways was suffice Nicodemus is just confused we know it's not the the taking of it as being born a second time because Nicodemus says that and what does Jesus do says no Nicodemus you you misunderstand he said Nicodemus said to him how can a man be born when he is old can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born can he and he's like no boy pay attention so he changes how he says it the same thing he just says it differently it is hot in texas i feel okay but no i'm not sweating listen i'm not sweating mona this is this is my um my glow hot coffee cools me down anyway Jesus says truly truly i said to you unless one is born of water and spirit so we changed it nicodemus you're confused let me just say it a different way unless one is born of water and spirit now Jesus is literally referring back to something else we know that because he's gonna tell him that unless one is born of water and spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God then he says that which is born of flesh is flesh but that which is born of spirit is spirit so he goes from born again to born of water and spirit to be born of of the spirit are you with me i'm sipping pretty i didn't have a piki i want to sit by listen i gripped it come on layman stop it so he's using three ways to say the same thing three ways to say the same thing why because he wants nicodemus to get it so nicodemus is nicodemus is taking a kind of a literal understanding to be born a second time however it also means to be born from above are you with me now nicodemus is confused because he says do not be amazed do not be not marvel that i said you must be born again don't be marveled don't that you must be born again the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound but you don't know where it's coming from or where it's going so is everyone who's born of the spirit born of the spirit born out of the spirit so what is jesus's point and then how can you how can nicodemus possibly understand what in the world is this savior talking about i have no idea what you're talking about jesus i don't know what you're talking about jesus no idea let me ask you guys a question this is where this good hermeneutic comes in i've got some cold water actually i have some water i've got some water byron i've got some water i just don't like cold water i really don't i like room temperature water i just don't especially i was supposed to go to dinner today and get my get my my tooth the part the thing that was giving me a problem get that fixed but because i was feeling ill i i didn't want to go into the doctor's office you know breathing on them but i like drinking room temperature water so nicodemus is confused how in the world was nicodemus to understand this let me ask you this question we know nicodemus was confused do you all think yes or no that jesus wanted nicodemus to understand what he's saying there's the question there is the question do you all think that Jesus wanted to or expected nicodemus to understand this do you all believe that does jesus want nicodemus to to see that understand or not i believe nicodemus was expected to understand it i believe jesus wanted nicodemus to get it he expected them you know why i believe that verse nine how can these things be jesus answered it and got kind of got on him he says are you a teacher of israel and you don't understand these things meaning you're a teacher how are you going to teach and you don't know this you're supposed to know this yeah jesus ain't playing games so he's supposed to know this and you're a teacher first of all you just supposed to know it's not like you don't have access to the to the word he wants to understand this well why does jesus want nicodemus how could jesus how could jesus possibly have expected nicodemus to understand this i'll tell you how because jesus expected nicodemus to have a literal grammatical historical hermeneutic how do i know so well let's go to the past that we know we're talking about that would be why is that right there how is this right oh i know what i did you goofball i got the hebrew with the with the greek let's go to ezekiel well we've gone before 36 i'm starting in 24 for a reason he says for i will take you from the nations gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land then then then i will sprinkle and i and the reason why it's then is because we have the uh the why i'm not gonna get into this whole this whole teaching of consecutive why but this thought is being continued then i will sprinkle clean water on you and you will be clean what did jesus talk about water and spirit i will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols moreover i will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you and i will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh i will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes this is one of the things that jesus is referring to now this is the only passage ezekiel is 1119 or 1911 i'm getting confused either either ezekiel 1119 or 1911 i got it backwards one of those backwards um Jeremiah as well he's been speaking about this what he's going to do to their heart in uh Deuteronomy i want the my mind is falling on the other passage but there's several passages stop it layman uh he's putting up some Hebrew rules in here but he's expecting him to know this because i've told you this in the word and so these prophecies are necessarily a part of this hermeneutic the historical portion of it is if i've said something and i've prophesied it's going to happen then you should expect it to happen and if i don't know of a prophecy that jesus doesn't expect to come true i can't think of one prophecy that that that the lord has given us that he didn't want to come true and to come true i think literally because so far every prophecy that he's given has literally come true literally and so he's saying that once you're back in the land i'm going to start then this process and that's going to be over a course of time he didn't give all the details and they don't know fully but i will start causing men to be born again which is what peter says in first peter chapter one verse three i will call we have been caused to be born again that's him doing it and then we go back to ezekiel that's him he's the active agent doing it to to the jews who's he speaking to he's speaking to to a jewish person that's where by the way guys that's where this little chart comes into play that's why this little chart comes i think it's so helpful because when someone is speaking you'll see who he's speaking up now he makes a statement to ezekiel during the exile so when you get back into this land guys uh the process is going to start now how soon after the process huh that becomes a bit tricky because he doesn't tell us exactly when just after ever what wait look at look what i just did wait a second you still have i have something in my teeth i hope not let me turn the camera on let me look i gotta turn around the other way oh okay oh you're saying i see what you're saying you didn't okay because that's my greatest fear guys my greatest fear is to be on this camera and just have something on me and i don't even know because i can't really see me the picture of me is right well there's a delayed picture right there and then there's a current picture over here and i can't see i can't see so i'm sitting there when you said that i had i had to think i had i had to stop and look and see make sure make sure okay cool that will be a video being made about me with something in my teeth so i had to check it out by the way if you see that if you see something in my teeth let me know now i did i the phone is the reason why this phone is here is uh if the moderators will will text me to say hey kory uh slow it down or this or that whatever i don't see it i'll see it on the phone so the phone is right there in front of me that's why though i've got one two three four five screens in front of me plus the camera plus this string deck plus his phone got a lot going on right here so back to this literal grammatical historical hermeneutics we spoke about what's going on with israel but it's not just israel it's not it's not just israel god is doing a work with israel but he's doing a work with us people as well i won't go back into the whole genesis 12 with abraham and so forth um and then them being put out of the land but as we've been going to the bible study they've been put out of the land or they're going to be put out of the land why because of this violation of the seven every seven years and then we read also in exis and deuteronomy no the exis and deuteronomy read last week that he is going to punish them you all remember from the bible study how many times did god promise to punish them for their sins seven times time seven is what he said so he says time seven and so does he mean that figuratively or literally well he literally punishes them seven times seven times what those 70s um times that they messed up on the Sabbaths every seven years you're supposed to uh give a Sabbath to the land they violated this or they will violate it 70 times it leviticus 26 and leviticus 25 we cover this and also exis 23 i think exis 2310 i believe also that he mentions about the Sabbath for the land um and so god is serious god is serious about his word when he says it he's not guessing he didn't have to guess and so if you violate this thing i'm gonna punish you time seven is what god says they violate this 70 this thing seven how do you sin 70 times well i can't you know what i can i should ask that question i know perfectly well how to sin 70 times i got pretty good at it you did you did too and so what is he gonna do he puts them out of land for 70 years as they're getting ready to come back into the land Daniel because Daniel can count Daniel says hey god what's up getting ready to take us back into the land right this now Jeremiah told us when we're going in these false prophets came and said no Jeremiah nope nope nope nope nope nope god won't put us out nope these false prophets are going around telling everybody everything's going to be good and by the way the Bible tells us that these folks are prophesying all these good things which is the same thing that they're doing now prophesying good things and so Jeremiah says no get comfortable kick up your feet marry have kids you're going to be there a while but god will bring you out Daniel's like okay wait a second so now we're here what's up Daniel i mean what's up god Daniel gets a word from the lord and so let's go to this word uh what's up oh Daniel i was getting ready to ask what passage we're talking about Daniel Daniel let's well i won't start the first one let's go to 24 after the angel comes to him after you know all he's speaking to him about his prayer and so forth he's going to even tell him why he was held up and so forth um he says lord are we are we going back what's up we're ready to go back home the angel says hold up Daniel i got something for you 70 weeks have been decreed now the word weeks is the word uh Shabia or yeah Shabia Shabin Shabahin i do not enjoy reading Hebrew i really though i really though um when a word inflects it it just changes and the nouns and so forth i i can read it but speaking it nope sorry but 70 Shabin 70 77s that's this word right here that's highlighted 77s that's the word sevens have been decreed so it doesn't mean it doesn't mean literal weeks well Cory do we take it as little little weeks well no he didn't really he didn't literally say weeks he didn't he did not literally say weeks he literally said 77s have been decreed for your people and your holy city to finish the transgression to make an end of sin to make atonement for iniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place so that's what these 77s are going to do why is it translate it's a good question why is it translated weeks because it's also the same translation for weeks as well you can take sevens seven is a week also in Hebrew the word seven the word uh uh week the word Sabbath they're all derived from the same three words three three words three letters so you'll see that that's why um but a seven because what is a week seven days so but he's saying 77s so someone could take it as weeks as a figurative week but it's actually um i mean as a figurative seven which would mean a little week but no take it as a little seven so seven 77s now the sevens is in seven days is seven years so said stop it layman stop it so 77s now in this 77s there are going to be all these things are going to take place inside of these 77s to finish transgression i'm sorry yeah to finish transgression to make an end of sin to make atonement for the for iniquity to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place all of those things have to happen inside or before or inside these 77s something's got to happen now we can count if this is years if this is years then it can be 490 years could be 490 years however we don't have a basis to believe that this is going to be 70 consecutive sevens look what he says so are so you are to discern so you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until Maasai the prince there will be 70 there will be seven weeks and 62 weeks so he gives two different numbers there will be seven sevens 49 years and then 62 times seven so now we're at 483 so there's two divisions the problem is the the first two divisions just happen to happen back to back and so the assumption might be made by some that the next seven will happen immediately after that uh so go back to what he says Maasai the prince there will be seven weeks and 62 weeks it will be built again with plaza and moat even in the times of distress then after 62 weeks Maasai will be cut off now here's the point how do we distinguish where there's a different seven that's not consecutively after the 483rd year is this little word right here the then this consecutive why then after the 62 weeks Maasai will be cut off so sometime after this is just taking a literal reading a literal reading will cause us to say then after so then after sometime after that uh that second set of numbers that's 62 weeks then Maasai will be cut off if we were to number from the time of the rebellion of the wall up to then it goes right up to 483 years then Maasai will be cut off after that which is his his uh death his crucifixion the problem is this last seven then Maasai will be cut off and have nothing and the people of the prince who was to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary so after that point in time these things are going to happen didn't tell us how long and so we shouldn't assume or act as though we know when it's going to happen it's certainly now it seems to be speaking of it seems to be speaking of the temple being destroyed well that doesn't fit in 490 years so we've got this break in this seven which is why we have this this belief of this seven-year tribute which by the way we we understand this seven-year tribulation because of Jeremiah 30 and seven and Daniel uh is the 12th so we understand what's going to happen there's a another seven that's left to come this last seven the the the 70th seven is left to come so Jesus when he's making this statement he understands this 70th seven is left to come to deal with you Jews to deal with you people Paul brings this up when he states that there's this partial hardening that has happened a spirit of stupor a part of that as come over Israel these Jews a partial hardening has taken place why or for how long we don't know but what's going to be happening in the in the meantime of this partial hardening the fullness of the Gentiles that's you and I that's us coming in that coincides with what God said he's going to do with the Gentiles also their hearts being changed also their hearts being regenerated are you with me these are all these things so if you have a literal grammatical historical hermeneutic this is what I believe you come up with now if you go to these passages and come up with something different it's only because you're not taking it literally are you with me because if we get if we go back let's matter of fact let's go back to this prophecy um if we start taking any of this not literally we can go anywhere with this we can go anywhere with this and if now is it possible that we are to you hear this term allegorize or spiritualize a text is it possible that some of these we might have to if we do what governs my allegorization and your algorithm i i spiritualize a text and go this way with it and you go that way with it who's to say we're right well i'm using the text so am i well i have the holy spirit so do i this is why i would say as best you can this is what me a literal grammatical historical harmony this is where because it's a consistent reading are there times where i cannot take it literally sure there are sure there are when he says that that he will sprinkle clean water on us is that literal water no he's not going to take our hearts out of our body and literally put water in it he's not going to literally take our heart out and put a different heart in no so that's where the literal doesn't work so if i can't take it literally what are you literally trying to say with this figure of speech with this metaphor or with me that's the that's the point would you say where do you suppose the silent years between the events of the old testament and the new testament as to why people hold to a post millennial eschatology um huh i'm not following you however the the post millennial eschatology um there's there i think there's some problems with it um because why daniel lie you think that are you think are you i'm not sure what you mean by that william first of all if you look at the world the world doesn't seem like the world does not seem like it's on the same um course as the post millennial belief but then there's some passages there's some passages that indicate how bad it's going to be and if we take these passages literally uh and some of these passages weren't weren't passages that we would take up to uh the uh the temple being destroyed so there was i think what he's referring to and i'm trying to see are you asking for a correlation between the silent period of the old testament to the new testament and well i don't know i don't know what sort of correlation there is i don't know which passage speaking of kneeling tell me the passage and i and i'll go to it criminals need the gospel to i don't know what that's about but okay uh bj's life says exe g first peter two nine this better not be difficult first peter two nine or you say two nineteen two nine okay but you are chosen race a royal priesthood a holy nation of people for god's own possession so that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who has called you out of darkness into a marvelous light or into his marvelous life so but you who's the you the question the issue is going to be who's a ue speaking of anybody have any idea of who who who do you all think that peter uh is literally speaking of well let's uh well the case could be made i'm making it for yesterday the case could be made this is actually what we're going to do yesterday so the case could be made um that he's only speaking to jews who have placed their faith in masai here's the reason why if we go to first peter chapter one verse one peter and apostle of jesus christ a living i'm reading the title to those who reside as aliens scattered throughout parches glacia capedotius a asia and bethynia who are chosen according to the four nods of god the father so who is he likely speaking to he's likely speaking to these jews who are scattered the gentiles weren't aliens in this land the jews were the aliens that never scattered now a case could be made i think should be made that even though it's written to the jews do we believe that there will be some gentiles uh in their midst that would hear this yes but if we go to first peter again so let's go back to first people since his primary audience is the scattered jews he says but you are a chosen race a royal priesthood a holy nation of people for god's own possession so that you may proclaim the ecstasies of him who has called you out of darkness into marvellous light so the the primary application as far as i would see would be to these jews but this certainly is a secondary application for us meaning um have we been chosen are we his people yes but not great he's speaking of them and we would also do the exact same thing he's calling these jews to be light in this place like they're supposed to be you who have been chosen chosen taken out of darkness into this marvellous light best for you guys please do so can we glean something from it as well as gen as gentiles absolutely we are supposed to be doing the same thing as well so if that helps bj let me pull up something is revelation you said is revelation seven four literal or symbolic well let's go to it and see and i heard the number of those who were sealed 144 000 sealed from every tribe of the son of israel from the tribe of juda 12 000 were sealed now i won't read all because now he's going to name the of the tribes and it will add up to a hundred and forty four thousand do you think that he takes this i don't say monotonous because it's not that that super detail doesn't take a long time to write this out and spell it out but to give the detail of how many from each tribe and it adds up to be a hundred and forty four thousand to me seems literal i think i think there literally will be 144 000 who they their names and so forth don't know possibly 144 000 men who have not defiled themselves with women who have not been with a woman but i think the number is literally a hundred and forty four thousand i have and there's no reason not to believe that it's not literal remember and i think this is the point that i think we need to get that we need to understand god can be literal and what he literally say will come to pass we don't have to because i think sometimes what we do is we try to make things fit let me give you an example and i doubt that any of you are probably old enough to uh to know this or to to say yeah i remember that but before israel became a nation again many people on the planet who are christian we're trying to help god out we're trying to figure out a way to make the bible not be jacked up to make sure that yeah israel's a nation and but we're it's all what they do since israel is no longer a nation on the planet then we are israel trying to help god out make sure that no one can say yeah our bible is is flawed well it's not flawed now that they're back in the land then we know that god literally meant what he said because they are literally back in their literal land and the bible tells us uh how they are they them being in the land and oh by the way they need to be in a land with their backs turned against god they need to be in so so everything as is with israel is just like it's supposed to be a hard-headed um state who god is going to punish them he's going to flick them so um that being the case i saw something i someone asked hold on and i won't be before you too long guys but i want you yeah we're still yeah we're still yeah as we're we're using our hermeneutics to run through these passages to see select like on this one if my hermeneutic on on revelation seven four is not literal historical grammatical then if yours if if you have a different hermeneutic how would you interpret this he's literally naming the names he's literally giving the numbers and so forth and this is number that that was heard from heaven of these witnesses i take it literal now we have no way to prove it one way or the other because it hadn't happened yet but we see this being alluded to in the passages previously and so what did you say oh i'm sorry let me let me pull up kneeling so the whole point is to uh to figure out what hermeneutics should we possibly use which hermeneutics works okay so oh we're still in revelation kneeling wants to know easy question easy question he says what are the uh the seven spirits so let's go there to the angel of the church in sardis uh he who has the seven spirits of god and the seven stars says this i know your deeds that you have a name that you are alive so what are the seven spirits of god and what are also what are also the seven stars what would you also now this is this is a vision obviously it hadn't hadn't happened yet hadn't happened yet so who would you all think that is being referred to as one of the stars as well as the seven spirits now let's keep reading wake up and strengthen the strength strengthen the things that remain which are about to die for i have not found your deeds complete in this in the sight of my god so remember what you have received and keep it i mean heard and keep it and repent therefore uh do not if you do not wake up i will come like a thief and you will not know at what hour i will come but you have a few people in sardis who have not soiled their garments and they will walk with me in white for they are worthy he overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments and i will not erase his name from the book of life and i will confess my name his name before my father and before his angels he who has an ear let him hear what the spirit says to the churches what would you say first of all what would you all say is the well you know give me give me both answers give me both answers what would you say is the spirit of the seven of the spirits and what would you say are the stars apostles and prophets okay i'm just trying to see what you guys are saying now question can you take this literally can you can you can you take this literally no it'd be kind of difficult to take it literally i'm fixing something right now seven fold seven fold spirits churches messengers okay all right let's go back to it uh what verses it churches and messengers seven stars are the angels of the seven churches okay hold on one second the but oh i'm sorry the bible is going to speak of also taking their um their candles or their candlesticks away depend upon your versions um that would represent the actual um the actual church itself and pull this up real quick hold on one second so let's let's do this let's go to revelation one where this is first referenced i'm mentioning seven churches john to john the seven churches that are in asia uh grace to you uh from him who is and who was and who is to come and from the seven spirits who are before his throne and from Jesus jesus christ the faithful witness by the way you all will be happy to know you all will be happy to know that i'm finally getting my eyes examined you have no idea how difficult it is me looking at this at this thing going from here to here to here and uh i can tell that my prescription is at my first was bad when i first got the glasses and now the glasses my eyes are starting to adjust to these glasses i thought they were um now the question is going to be this though who are the seven spirits it's difficult to say it's difficult to say um i would i would be i would be uh inclined to believe this is i'm inclined to believe that this is probably the the spirits of the seven churches were in essence referring to the holy spirit i'm i i i see this probably likely as the holy spirit although it's just not clear however do you have to have it do you have to have it uh does that part have to be clear it might be referring to something but now i think that so i think the seven spirits might be referring to just the holy spirit governing these churches uh and if these churches don't do what they're supposed to do then that church will cease to be a church a local church by the way you all do realize that it without fail at least so at least thus far i shouldn't say without fail i shouldn't say without fail virtually every church that was established has gone away it seems to be like a time for a church this china thank you deatrous did i say deatrous or detris miss carter there seems to be uh a length for each church but most churches churches from the 1700 there are some churches that actually do that actually do still exist but churches of antiquity they they tend to fade and then end up getting replaced uh when do you decide then what is what take literally and what's not well so in revelations particularly or other prophecy by the way most prophecies not found in revelation but that being the case the same way that you the the same rule applies whether it's revelation or whether it's zikio whether it's Jeremiah whether it's malachi whether it's matthew doesn't matter uh again you're going to read it literally until literally doesn't make any sense and so what you're going to do is you're going to look at the passage and especially this when you see uh let's start in revelation one the revelation of jesus christ which god gave to him to show him to his bond servant of things which must soon take place and he sent and communicated it by his angel was bond servant john blessed his verse three is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy and he's the things that are written in for the time is near john the seven churches that are in asia uh to you and peace from him who is with who is and who was and who is to come and from the seven spirits who are before his throne and from jesus christ uh the faithful witness the first born of the dead and the ruler of the earth it almost it it almost reads like all these different names uh given to kind of descriptive terms of this triune god to him who loves us and release us from our sins by his blood and he has made us to be a kingdom of priests uh to to his god and father let me see uh i'm i john verse nine i john your brother and fellow partake in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in jesus uh was on the island called patmos because of the word of god and the testimony of jesus i was in the spirit on the lord's day and i heard behind me a voice like now you're gonna see a couple things you're gonna see uh one this term host or like so you're gonna see him trying to give some sort of description to a word that he's i don't know how difficult it was for john because again he says he was in the spirit and i don't know what it's like to be in the spirit of that degree like john was or like paul was when paul's describing being called for the third have he didn't know if he was either caught up literally thick physically or just in the spirit of no uh i don't know what it's like but he's using um an analogy he's using as or like to kind of give a this to give a description of words that are probably hard to explain a vision of something that's hard to explain give a description of something that's hard to describe and so you'll see this and i heard behind me a voice like the sound of a trumpet so a lot of times you're going to see this given before you you see these metaphors you see these figures of speeches sometimes oh you don't see it and when you don't see it such as the seven spirits huh what does that mean well what you do is just take it put it aside take a word or an understanding that you don't quite get and see if it still makes sense without that so who are the seven spirits don't know put them to the side if it's if it's referring to the holy spirit before these seven churches um fine if it's referring to seven angels fine put it to the side at least in this case though in this case you still don't miss the point of it to the angel of the church in sardis rites he who has the seven spirits of god and the seven stars says this you don't miss the point of what's being written if you're not totally sure of what the seven spirits are are you with me because he says i know your deeds he's writing what the point is he's writing to these particular churches now these are actual little churches because they are in now will someone say well no i don't think these are actual little churches you know these are actually little churches it was a church in sardis are you with me there was in church in philadelphia uh and i believe i would say that he's writing to the person it's over the elder or the or the uh the pastor uh the bishop whatever you want to call it over these particular church i'm gonna take that literally because at least literally that at least makes sense if it's not now i've got a problem i've got to figure out well who who else could this messenger who else could this angel of this church be is it a is it a angelic angel well why are you writing a letter to an angelic angel so it has to be an actual person or persons no i'm not making this video for slow learners the video for the for the slow learners for the rest for everyone else for all of us really is the saturday morning bible studies the saturday morning bible studies is believe it or not guys we are employing this hermeneutic or really even your hermeneutic even if it's not this hermeneutic we are employing it on saturday mornings why because we stop and take time and ask questions well who's referring to was he what was he speaking of this way as we're going slow on saturdays we can literally because we just read it either the week before or a few weeks prior or a few minutes prior we've read what he's talking about we see the point for example in romans and i'm getting ready to leave romans nine we had this conversation before about uh spiritual israel and is israel the church that was a good plug what a good juju that was a good that was a good plug for the saturday morning bible study um yeah layman i tell you would give me a give me send me an email um to the smart christian at channel at gmail uh and i may i may just turn around give you a different email but send me an email at smart christian channel at gmail um but we were having this discussion one time about romans nine ten eleven and the issue came up about israel being a spirit is literally israel the literal israel or a spiritual israel well so paul is not speaking a of a spiritual israel he's speaking of a literal israel we can see this in the text i'm telling the truth in christ i'm not lying my conscience testifies with me in the holy spirit that i have a great sorrow and unceasing grief in my heart for i can wish that i myself were cursed separated from christ for the sake of my brother and my kinsman so now he's telling us who he's speaking of my kinsman according to the flesh who are israel so even if you thought according to the flesh you thought that he might have meant still us gentile believers he says who are israelites to whom belong the adoptions of sons uh and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the law well that clearly is us i mean uh physical israel and we know he's not speaking of a spiritual israel because he says a partial hardening has come over israel the spirit of stupor has come over israel until the gentiles how many gentiles have been fulfilled so it couldn't be that spiritual israel is a gentile and then also we've got these other gentiles no because a partial hardening has not been given uh over us gentiles no so anyway now here's my my point all of that to say this all of that to say this brian is from to make you look california all of where is that at is that on the coast or is that inward the other part of california the california that tends to make no sense all of that to say this i want you guys i want to keep begging you want to keep asking you to think about bible do this do this go let me see if can you do this let me do this let me let me google different hermeneutics all right yeah type in google is your homework type in on google different hermeneutics and just look and examine the different kinds you've got time you don't have to you don't have to do it by tomorrow but look up the different types of hermeneutics and then listen what they say don't take my word for it just listen what they say how they describe them and see you know what i think mine closely aligns with this mine is most like that okay once you get an understanding of it then start applying it as you read so just pick a book just go to john go to matthew go to mark go to acts go to revelation no no don't go to revelation go to roman go to old testament passage and just start reading it and start applying your hermeneutics now most cases i can promise you this guy most people employ a literal grammatical historical hermeneutics until we get to the prophecies until we get to the things that kind of differentiate us between a covenantal theology versus a more literal theology or dispensational theology or or eschatology so i agree with you layman i do but i won't say that i'll let people find it out because if you if you're if you're a hermeneutic begins to change over time if when i look at something and you say well that didn't mean what it means less the way signal if we're employing a literal hermeneutic or historical hermeneutic would have you within why does it change now well because well now we got a problem but i'd be interested to hear what you guys have to say so go and type in on google uh different hermeneutics and um then come back and say well this is what i think mine is it started using it core you will probably have hair in heaven no i won't no why why would i need hair in heaven why wouldn't why wouldn't i not want my scalp to soak up all of that glory yeah you guys get a haircut in heaven and have a tan not me not me so anyway guys i hope this has been beneficial by the way i've got an announcement to make i'm not going to uh was i an og i've been called that i'm gonna make an announcement probably in a few days uh the moderators know moderators don't tell anybody interesting interesting smart 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so anyway guys thank you all so much god bless you thank you all for the prayers i will see i gotta i got pretty good with tomorrow we are gonna have some fun tomorrow anyway guys be blessed i will see you later