 Hi, this is your host of the party and today we have with us you all what her Open 19 project fellow at the Linux Foundation. You all it's great to have you on the show. Great to be on the show Thank you for having me. What is open 19 project all about? Open 19 project is about creating a New way of sharing hardware technology. It's an open source environment for everybody wants to participate in The environment of developing hardware commonly and creating a common phone factor But at the same time enabling commercial value so adding members into our project Which do have a commercial interest and as a result We don't limit them into create commercial value into their product by defining the framework But not defining the actual Hardware itself we live in a software driven cloud centric bird all we talk about is software software software So can you talk about the importance of discussions around clear metal and hardware because the fact is no matter How much we like to talk about functional service or serverless? There is a server running somewhere. I think the bottom line for us to look at this is that Every application every aspect of our life is running on a server It might be a server which is running multiple virtual machines It might be a server which is which is running a containers, but it's still a server and That server need required to actually be at the top notch quality top notch Availability and performance and that's where bare metal comes in bare metal comes in one and actually defining the capabilities of the server and The capability to run a virtual machine Properly or running it purely on a bare metal bare metal solution today are actually a Part of a significant part of what we're doing today in machine learning in AI We were not running virtual running on bare metal and we are showing different aspects of the future of Applications is going to be dominating the market in the future. So bare metal is super important Even though a lot of the software engineers don't really care where their application is running But it is critical for the advancement of the industry to be able to have a creative way to create bare metal Especially in a community way like we did with open 19 one more thing that I want to talk to you about is the kind of growth or Adoption of edge computing and it could be both either you look at end devices, which is IoT devices or we are looking at edge data center And as we do look at especially you mentioned AI ML and all those workloads It first of all poses a lot of challenges on its own latency is a big challenge, you know Compliance can be a big challenge. So do you think that with the emergence of edge? Developers will actually have to start caring about edge because now there is no virtualization happening there You have physical edge devices where you are deploying your your software. How will edge change the equation? Yes, so when you look at the edge edge has two parts for it One is the aspects of how do you collect the data? Shift the data in from cars from cameras for phone from any aspects you connect to the network and the other aspect is How do you start processing it? Edge is offering something very very unique and new in the industry and that's very low latency Very high bandwidth specifically associated with 5g and and then we need to look at the definition of what is edge cloud? Edge cloud is a traditional cloud That you see in the public cloud, but it's very very close to the endpoint It's a cloud service which enables you to operate in very high bandwidth low latency and serve applications that we don't have today So the edge is growing very fast It's gonna run virtual machines or on bare metal as long as you can maintain high bandwidth and Low latency the applications that will need the edge cloud other applications They just can't back hold their data into cloud and edge cloud will be very distributed. It's gonna be a cloud solution that will be Associated with endpoints in a localization Matter so it means urban areas will be sliced into sub blocks So it may be 10 cell towers every one of them a 20 cell towers every one of them And they will serve those 20 with a very strong backbone connectivity between those blocks of edge cloud That solution is actually a solution which is emerging right now And it's gonna be dominating the market in the next five to ten years Because of the fact that more and more applications will be written and will be requiring the bandwidth that we need To be able to process today one of the biggest bottlenecks of cloud is actually bringing the data in and pushing the data Out edge cloud is solving this problem completely and enabling applications like VR gaming or Remote medicine that we can do today with cloud services. So if we go back to Open 19 project, are you going to cater or look at all these use cases? Or you're looking is only and only at data center servers open 19 the way it's defined It's actually defining a form factor Network connectivity and power distribution It does not jump into what's in the server which plugged into the open 19 But it does address a lot of the requirements that we have both in the data center as well as in the edge It's actually the most simplistic way and operational Operational free to actually be able to install open 19 and actually plug-in server open 19 was designed originally that the UPS guy who delivers the servers can actually plug it in and run it and as a result will create it a Extremely simplistic way. There's no cabling in open 19 There's nothing that needs to be done beyond the initial installation Which is being done when the data center is built at first. So it's highly applicable to edge locations where you're going to have less Manpower to actually run them and the manpower that you're going to have running them Probably going to be has lower qualification compared to large data center operators. So that's why a Open 19 is highly addressing highly addressable to this market because On the simplicity and the availability of it when you look at open 19 into large data centers It's absolutely still very valid technology for that Because of two main reasons first it's actually reducing the cost of the overall solution that you are purchasing because of the architecture is being built with centralized power and Centralized network, but at the same time it actually creates a process which is simplistic in installation and And maintenance of servers up to the point that you can have in large data centers Robotic hands that would actually remove and insert servers because there's no there's no cabling involved in it It's much much easier to implement a full dark data center with no people in it if you have open 19 installed You're talking about, you know, the the kind of origin of Open 19 price. So I also want to quickly understand How the project got us started and then I would also like to know why you decided to host the project at the Linux foundation Yeah, so the the project initially started with LinkedIn LinkedIn and decided to actually try and optimize our footprint LinkedIn is is was running and still running off bare metal and we were trying to optimize our operational build out of our data center In the process to do that we get to the point that we said, okay You know what? this is a technology that can be applicable for a lot of other companies and Since our compute aspect was not a competitive advantage for LinkedIn LinkedIn's competitive advantage is the platform of LinkedIn com We decided to actually open it up and we started a foundation which was the lead Open 19 foundation to actually create a different kind of Hardware sharing platform for communities that were Wanted to get involved and the peak of this we were actually running at 28 companies Which were involved in the open 19 foundation the open 19 foundation decided to To join the Linux foundation because of the aspect of creating a solution into a much larger community Which is the Linux foundation community and enabling us to participate in hardware projects in the next foundation Which is open 19 is the first but at the same time start integrating software projects from the Linux foundation Into the open and team platform and clear create a much more Elaborative solution that will give us the ability to drive solutions into the market Which are going to be more comprehensive open 19 originally to be able to participate in open 19 as an end user You needed to have some level of capabilities in-house for software management, etc and with the integration to the Linux foundation we have an option to create a Solution which is very comprehensive and will enable companies which don't have those resources to still be able to use the open 19 platform as their platform of choice as part of the Linux foundation What is going to be I mean of course you have a very well-defined, you know What is the objective of the project? But what will be your goal and mission as a LF hosted project our goal with the LF is to create a wide community and a wide community of contributors and end users LF as a as a platform gives us the ability to create alliances and create collaborations within companies that usually will compete with each other But at the LF level they actually collaborate on different projects And that is probably one of the biggest values that will bring into the open 19 platform by having all of those Companies collaborate and try to create a first target with open 19 We did do it just in the past we show the first platform which ran an HPE Super micro in-spoor Servers running on the same chassis But the Linux foundation is taking us to the next level or not run that and enables us to integrate different Software packages from different competitors to be able to create a solution across the board Can you talk about what is the structure of the project? What does the governance look like? What kind of help and assistance you are getting from the foundation? Yes, so right now the the open 19 a portion project within the Linux foundation is being run by a steering committee Which is a comprised from the four top leaders of this project that steering committee is actually Spinning out right now working groups which are gonna work towards version two of the open 19 foundation and the enhancement on version one Of the open 19 project that combination will bring us to a level where it's actually highly integrated The next level for us is actually integrating other sub projects into the the open 19 projects Which are gonna be mostly around software Now the Linux foundation is giving us the full coverage From perspective of everything that we do which is not technical or everything which is not requiring us to work on Directly like marketing Back-end and ever every other aspect program management every other aspect that we need in the data in the Sorry in there building their project itself And I think the Linux foundation is giving us a slew of hosting Which is much makes our life much much easier and let us focus on the actual implementation and not on the Logistics around it the project just got it started So it's kind of not fair to ask anything about long term especially in this burn We cannot but if I ask, you know, hey, what does your pipeline? What are your plans? What are your road map look like what are the things that you want to execute as the project? You know grows and matures within the Linux foundation the first step for us is is version 2 of the open 19 fun Project version 2 of the open 19 project is going to enhance the original open 19 project Which has been created five and a half years ago It's gonna enhance all aspects of the open 19 project and enable us to go into the future and future Proof us that's in the short run, which is the next six to 12 months of our work is gonna focus on that The the longer term and like I indicated before is actually integration of software packages into the open 19 projects and enabling Completely self-sustained project that will create for people the way to deploy data center without worrying about the requiring very heavy Engineering work on their side if somebody is interested in joining the positive how somebody can get involved So it's very simple you just go to open 19 org You're gonna go to the membership tab and the membership tab You'll be able to see if you can join it if you want to join as an individual if you want to join as a corporate and There are multiple easy path through the open 19 org membership tab to show how to do that and We will come as soon as you click on join We will contact you immediately and be able to actually make a smooth Integration into the Linux foundation as well as the open and team project Yeah, thank you so much for taking time out today and talk about not only open 19 project but also talk about The whole landscape the importance of discussions around hardware and as you said this is I If I'm not running the first or the only hardware related project links foundation So good luck with that and I would love to talk to you again soon. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you very much