 Let's go ahead and call the meeting to order. Let's go ahead and start this regular session by roll call. Mayor Bagley. Here. Council Member Christensen. Here. Council Member Adelgo-Fairing. Here. Council Member Martin. Here. Council Member Peck. Here. Council Member Rodriguez. Here. Council Member Waters. Here. Mayor Yavakorm. All right, great. Let's start with the Pledge. John, you want to start us? Sure. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. All right. Just a quick reminder to the public, anyone wishing to provide public comment during the public invited to be heard must watch the live stream of the meeting and call in only when the meeting is open for public comment. You can't, callers are not able to access the meeting at any other time. That is the call in, that is the call in information. We will go ahead and put that up when it comes time for first call public invited to be heard. When you call in, wait patiently and you'll be called by the last three or four digits of your phone number. All right, let's move on to section or item four approval of minutes to have a motion to approve the December 1st, 2020 regular session minutes. I will move. All right. I'll second that. It was moved by Dr. Waters, seconded by myself. Any comment? Okay. Seeing none, all in favor of approving the December 1st, 2020 regular session minutes. Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Say nay. All right. Any agenda revisions or submission of documents or motions to direct the city manager for future agenda items? All right. I thought we got away with it. Councilmember Christensen. No, I'm just going to ask, last week we approved giving some money to the Northern Arapaho. I'm wondering when that's going to happen or when it's coming back. I'm going to need you all to make some motions during city manager, city manager report on the very issue and then on carryover. Have we had a chance to, have we had a chance to talk or communicate with the business council yet? We haven't had a chance, but we're going to go ahead and ask you to do that. All right. We'll do that tomorrow then. We need to get some, I need to chat with you about getting numbers so that. All right. We'll just, we'll just, we'll have, that'll happen tomorrow, I promise. Okay. That's okay. All right. All right. Let's go ahead. City manager report update on COVID-19. How are we doing? We're doing well. I've actually got a few things to talk to you about changes that occurred at the state level and then CARES funding, but the first item that I wanted to talk to you about is actually the 5,000 that you wanted to appropriate to the Arapaho Nation. So I need council to make a motion and direct that so we can get that in the budget process. Council Member Christensen. I would move that the city manager and city staff donate $5,000 to the Northern Arapaho tribe to use in the way they see most fit for, to help their nation during COVID. Thank you. I'll second it. You're muted, but I, I read your lips, Mayor. Yes. Yes. Council Member Beck. So Council Member Christensen, did you want that to come out of the Council Contingency Fund? Yes. Sorry. I meant to mention coming from the Council Contingency Fund. Okay. All right. The motion is to instruct staff to move forward by allocating $5,000 out of the Council Contingency Fund in order to apply it to assist the Northern Arapaho tribe. And their current needs given the COVID-19 pandemic. All right. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. All right. The motion carries unanimously. Harold. Mayor, Council, I also need another motion from Council to carry over the remaining amount from your Contingency Fund into 2021. So moved. Second. All right. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed, say nay. All right. The motion carries unanimously. How much is in there right now, Harold? Do you want me to shoot that? $762,000. Okay. Cool. Plus $40,000 that we would hope to reimburse from CARES money. Okay. So $100,000? $102,000. Looks like we're going to have a cool birthday party for one of us. All right. That's a joke, by the way. Don't everybody laugh? I mean, come on. I mean, I've been trying for nine years now. All right. Casa Bonita. Casa Bonita. If they open again. That's right. All right. So, Harold, do you have anything else to report with COVID? Yeah, we've got a few things. Don, you want to jump in and help us talk through the liquor fee issue. We've had some changes at the state and since this is the last meeting, we want to get some direction from you all that we can pass on to the judge and the liquor authority. Don? Thank you, Harold. Yeah, mayor and council, during the special session that was held by the state legislature, they passed a bill, 20B-001, that waves a whole bunch of liquor licensing fees for the next year from December 7th, 2020 to December 7th, 2021. Liquor fees, it's a dual process, so there are liquor licensing fees paid to the state and fees paid to the city. The state can only waive their fees. They can't waive our local fees. So the question is, would council like for us to follow suit and waive? There are certain license types. It's mostly on-premise licenses, so like restaurants, those kinds of licensees, and it's for specific types of applications, renewals. So in the next year, generally, bars and restaurants would not have to pay any fee in order to renew their license as a way to help them to recover. So the question is, would council like for us to do the same for the same time period? The way we would do that is the licensing authority, which is Judge Frick. He would then write an order to amend our fees, but we wanted to ask for council direction first. I think that's a great idea. Councilor Christensen, you're muted, Polly. You're still muted. Sorry. Yeah, I think it's a wonderful way to help our businesses, just a little bit, restaurants and things. So I'd second it. All right. Yeah, you can take mine as a so moved. So I made the motion. Councilor Christensen seconded it. Dr. Waters? It just would be helpful to know what, how many dollars is that in terms of lost revenues or deferred revenues? Not that I don't support the idea. Just I'm just curious when I vote yes, I'm voting yes to forego X number of dollars in fees. And I do recall from Jim, Golden, that fees account for about $4 million of our revenue shortfalls in 2020. So how much are we going to add to that? This one's about $20,000, and we have some ability with some of the way we're working. I think the CARES funds it comes in for pandemic. So $20,000. All right. Thank you. All right. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Say nay. All right. That motion carries unanimously. Thanks, Don. Good idea. Thank you. Last part, we've got two more pieces. The other is related to the CARES funding that I talked to council about. So if you remember we allocated CARES funding to business assistants, child care assistants, health and human service funding, any number of things. We are screaming into the end of year. If council will remember, we have to have all of those expenses. We have to have all of that done by the end of the year. And what I mean done is it has to be expended or we have to have purchased what we need in there. One of the things that we've done as we've been moving through this, we had some of the internal funds that we were really focused on within the organization. We've had some reallocations occur based on some other funding that came in for testing sites from the county and these other places. And that amounted to about $87,196. We moved the city's funding from there into the business assistance grant process, which allowed us to assist about 88 businesses within the community. We had approximately 150 that we're requesting, so there's still quite a few. When we started looking at the health and the money that we were putting into health and human service funding and really the grants for the nonprofit agencies, we started running into some issues. And the same thing actually occurred on the business assistant side and even with some of the child care grants. And that you get caught up into this funding source in terms of the federal duplication of benefits. So if any of these groups applied for the PPP loans or received any other federal funding, then it started conflicting in the duplication of benefits. The other thing we were seeing in our nonprofit groups is there was a lot of money funneling into that world via the county, the city, the state. And so when we went through that, we've realized that of the $254,000 that we put into that arena when you look at the ability to spend it, federal duplication of benefits, and then the conversations that we've had with Dola on the accounting piece, we're only probably going to be able to allocate $160,000, which leaves about another $94,000 out in the process. And what I was going to recommend to you all is that we move that into the boost business grants because they're the easiest to spend pretty quickly in the amount of time that we have. The other thing that we've been really working on is the utility assistance grants. And so with the work that they're doing at the our center and the work that we're doing internal with our utility assistance piece, we've identified that we're going to have about $90,000 that our center has moved over to us, of which $50,000 we've moved into the utility assistance piece that we're managing, which leaves about $40,000 that we need to reallocate. Again, we're recommending that go into the business boost grants because it's the easiest and the fastest to expend. So that would add between those two pieces, another $134,000 to the business grants. What we've heard and what I've heard from Peter in this, and Peter's on the line, if you have any questions, is that would get us close to being able to assist approximately 100 businesses locally with the boost business grants that we're putting into the community. And if you're interested, we have them mapped geographically through the community. Obviously, we're putting them through our social equity lens as we were looking through this and had a diverse panel review it. If council is in agreement with that, then as we're continuing to get to the end of this, we know we're going to have money available here and there. So we've then structured a process that we could move those funds into boost, pay for PPE, disinfecting in the city facilities. We have prime go bags for our staff to be able to work from home, some work in the museum so they can continue to do virtual productions, and then the pandemic pay line item that we have within our organization. So those will be things we'll have to move the money into as we're sliding in just based on timeline. So I know I went over this pretty quickly, but as you can see, the big move is, if we can't spend it moving it into the business grants, then looking at some of the other items within our structure so that we can ensure the funding, we capture 100% of the funding locally. All right, great. Is that it, Harold? If there's a question. Oh, sorry, Dr. Waters. Your bright red sweater was not capturing the visual. Sorry. Do you need a motion on any of that, Harold? If I can just give direction or consensus from council that we move in moving the funds as I described, I think that would help me. So you don't need a motion for me? I'll give you a thumbs up. What do you want to give a motion? A motion will work too. Well, then I'll move that we authorize Harold to make the adjustments in the CARES funding in ways that he just described. Second. All right. It's been moved by Dr. Waters and second by Council Member Peck that staff proceed with the direction that Harold just described. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. All right. You've got your direction, Harold. Thank you. All right. Go to one second. Council Member Peck. Oh, I'm sorry. Harold, are you finished with your update? I've got, I was going to go over the COVID numbers, but if there's something else that I can answer. I was just curious and it does have to do with COVID. Have you heard anything about the eviction mandate being lifted? I haven't. I haven't heard anything. What I can say is that we were actually talking to the Boulder County folks that do this, and they were still talking about the fact that it's only in extreme circumstances when I'm seeing something pop across the screen. Hold on. Somebody's answering. Nope, they're not. I haven't seen that they're going to change that, Sandy. Can you jump on and see if you've heard anything from the state level on this one, or Karen? Yep, you got it. Yep. And it's only in extreme circumstances. We've had to deal with one recently, and it's really safety to the other residents in the facility. And the threshold is really, really high, and it really turns in. It's a fundamental safety issue. Okay, thank you. All right, Harold. Anything else? Yep, COVID. I'm going to try to blaze through this as fast as I can, but there's actually some good numbers, some good information in this that I wanted to share with you all. So can you all see? Yes, we can. Hold on a second. I'm having technical issues. Bear with me a second. All right, so this is the information that I've received from Jeff Zeag today. He presented it yesterday to our county administrators meeting. As we move through this, obviously we're going to be focusing on the CDPHE dial and mitigation metrics. When you look at this, so the first thing you can obviously see that we're at 572.5 per 100,000. I will tell you that that number was based on Monday. If you were to go to the dashboard now, it's actually 526. So we're continuing to move and in a good direction in terms of that number, and keep track of these numbers because they've consolidated into some comparisons for other counties. When you look at the county rate, you can see here that it's 6.4. I think that on the state's website that rate has now moved to approximately 6 versus the 6.4 that we had on Monday. So again, still seeing really good movement in terms of Boulder County. And then obviously where we set in the eight to 11 days, we're at 11 days of decreasing our stable admissions in Boulder County. When you look at the hospital surge metrics for level purple, you can see that we are starting to see some differences and you'll see this when we get into the hospital numbers. We're now one to five Boulder County hospitals are reporting anticipated staffing shortage. I think last week that was two. And then when you read see the hospitals approaching 90% of the reported surge, you can see that 0.5 are anticipating ICU bed shortages this week. 2.5 are still reporting transfer capability and tight ICU capability. So we're continuing to see that. So they're not accepting transfers from any source. Health systems are then reaching out to each other or assistance when we have situations in our rural partners. So again, still really sitting there. And I think that's a broader impact. Harold, would it be possible next week to get the delta of this time last year? Because I'm having a hard time understanding if those numbers are bad. I mean, 68% of the ICU beds bad. I mean, it's a lot better than it was two weeks ago, but I'd like to know in a non-COVID year, what are these numbers? Yeah, we can get that. We can probably have the county get that for us. The delta is the information that tells the story. Right. And we'll have the county get that for us. Thank you. And so when over that, missing a slide, something's happening with this. But when we get out of this, I'll tell you what we're seeing in our neighboring counties based on that. So when you look at the numbers here, I think, obviously, we're just looking at the trend and the graph and what we're seeing. The big piece is that we've actually had two days under 100, fours with over 100. And we've had one with 200, which is much better than we've been seeing recently. Again, we're still seeing a fair number of cases associated with long-term care facilities. And the numbers that we're putting together when we had the 25, seven of those was in our long-term care. And so those are the outbreaks that they're still working on in terms of then the asymptomatic transmission that's occurring in those long-term care facilities. When you look at this, this is really the, and the other sides we've been looking at, two-week cumulative incidents, two-week average positivity. Currently, our five-day rolling average is about 103 cases per day. This has decreased a lot since last Tuesday when the average was 129. We're actually well below half the average cases when we were at the peak recently. So again, continuing to see good movement. Over the past three weeks, the new case rates in all metro counties have been dropping, but are still higher than any time before the recent surge. As you can see, Boulder, the red line is lower than all counties, but Broomfield, in terms of the new case rate per 100,000, but we're very close to Broomfield. And obviously our population is much different as we're continuing to move forward. This is actually the slide I was looking for. I thought it was over. When you look at the dial metrics, and so when you remember me talking about 526 and 6%, what they've said is when you look at it in Weld and Larimer County, so we're at 526 Welds at 1018. Larimer's at 784. Two-week average positivity in Weld is 14.6, 10.5 in Larimer, and then 10 days for hospitalization, eight days in Larimer. So if you remember those numbers I talked about on the dial recently, that's how we're comparing to those other counties. Now we're going to get into the Boulder County numbers. In Boulder County, while we're performing better than other counties, in Boulder County, Longmont is not performing as well as the county's as a whole. Since November 1, we've had the highest case rate per 100,000 in Boulder County. Again, we've talked about the lion's case rates in terms of what we're seeing. This is what it looks like when we break it down. Now the good news is we're, all of these are continuing to trend down in terms of the county, but when you look at the relativity of this, we're staying pretty consistent in terms of where the number of cases are coming from. Boulder had 212. In the last week, 212 cases, Longmont had 407 cases, Lewisville Lafayette Superior had 127, and then the other municipalities had 101. So those, we continue to need to be very diligent in our community. The past seven days, 25% of our new cases are from Boulder, and 48% are from Longmont. So we're going to continue working our public information campaign on this issue. Again, highest cumulative rates per 100,018 to 22, 23 to 24, and then 25 to 34. In terms of children, the good news is the case rates have decreased for every age group over the past two weeks compared to the previous two weeks, except the five to nine year olds where it remained the same. Finally, when we look at this and we see the case rates continue, now we're seeing the case rates decrease among all age groups over the past two weeks compared to the previous two weeks, two weeks where we were seeing that diverge in that 75 plus age group. And then again, 76.2% have no enraison ethnicity, and we continue to see large disparities in our Hispanic Latinx population. When you get into the next slide, again, the good news is we're seeing the cases go down, but we're not seeing a change in the absolute or relative disparity for the Hispanic Latinx community members in terms of what that looks like in week to week. And as Jeff indicated, we're continuing to try to focus and communicate with that segment of our population. When we get into this, here's where the numbers start seeing look a lot better. So the five day average on November one was 6.5%. The five day average based on this was 5.2%. Again, you can see the number of tests that we have in play and the number of positives, really still what this is showing the is the ability to perform a lot of tests, which is what we're still looking for. And then this is where you can see the five day rolling average on the percentage of positive tests in Boulder County, again, still seeing really good trends in this area. The data is presented through 12.11 due to an approximately three day lag between the time a test is conducted and when the results are reported to CDPHE. Again, this is just another example where we're seeing that trend down in the data and you're going to see it again here in the seven day rolling average percentage. So we're just seeing everything. There may be a question today. Are we seeing this on our wastewater data? We're seeing that move in the same direction that Dale talked about during the last meeting. Hopefully the state's going to make that public and we'll be able to show you that when we have our next council meeting at the beginning of the year. To the mayor's point in terms of hospitalizations, this is again a cumulative look at hospitalizations. This is the dial where we're seeing where we are and what it looks like. This is also improving in terms of the cases that we were seeing today. If you bear with me, let me pull up another chart to give you those numbers in terms of what we were seeing. As of earlier today, we had 75 hospitalizations in the county, 24 in Longmont. Yesterday we had 84. It's been vacillating a little bit, but it is going down from where we were in terms of the number of hospitalizations in Boulder County. Longmots remain pretty steady in that 20 to 25 range. This is the graph that really shows what we've been seeing. Again, good movement, but you can see where it bounced a little bit. This one was the one with 85 people. Then obviously when it gets reported, based on what we're seeing today, then it'll drop back down to approximately right where the pointer is here based on what we're seeing today. Again, this is what the hospitals are looking like statewide. Unfortunately, this is a lagging indicator in terms of death. You're actually seeing that, but we're seeing more deaths. That's obviously attributed to the number of cases, number of hospitalizations. This is really the lagging indicator in terms of what everyone's evaluating. Then emergency room, they were starting to track flu, so we've actually had 11 hospitalizations in terms of flu, but no outbreaks in long-term care facilities, no pediatric deaths related to the flu. Again, when you look at the emergency department visits, and we'll try to get a baseline on this for the council at the next meeting, you can see that diagnosed flu is still really low. People coming in with COVID-related systems, we can see that peak matching the data peak and it's starting to trend down, so we're seeing that move in the direction that we want. Then total ED visits are starting to decrease. Again, emergency department visits by county. You can see where we had a dip, but then we went back, but we're still performing really well compared to other counties. In the state of Colorado. In terms of the social distancing update, this is an interesting piece of information that we're going to start trying to work in to our wastewater data to try to get a different look. 48% social distancing, seven-day average in the state of Colorado. What's really interesting is when you look at Boulder County, and we're at 56%. When we look at when we were at the stay at home order, it was 86%. We then decreased in April to 53% in July. Then we went to 41% in October, but now we're back up to 56%. We're starting to see that where we can relate the time at home. That graph, we're going to try to figure that out as it relates to the case numbers and as it relates to some of what we're seeing in our wastewater, because you can definitely see that connection in terms of the movement and a shift in the numbers. Then Boulder residents are staying at home less in the spring, but more than October. Again, that's starting to correlate with what we're seeing in the cases in the community. Again, we have all of these data resources on work with Marika to send you out the full slide deck as we're going over this. I know I went through it pretty quick. Do you all have any questions? I'll be happy to answer that. Council Member Peck. So, Harold, thank you, Mayor Badley. I was trying to work out the percentages here based upon population. For example, we have like 525 out new virus infections. We're down to that. Did I understand that correctly? We have about a 2% infection rate. Let me get that for you, because it depends on the date range. We'll talk to Dan about getting that. So, in the last week, for example, in the last week, we had 407 cases in the last week, but there's more to it than just what I've learned, just the vision of the cases by the population. So, let us reach out to Boulder County Health to see if we can get that number for you all. Because I would like to compare that to, based upon population, the percentage for Weldon Larimer, since they have tripled the population that we've got. I would just like to see what the comparison is. So, a different website to answer that question. Share a different screen with you all right now. Okay. So, if you look at this screen, this may be some help to you all, slow and slow. So, when you look at Boulder, confirmed by a hundred, so we've had 13,000 confirmed cases with 140 deaths, and then you can click on this other. So, this is the John Hawkins. It does it by county. And so, then generally you can. So, then this shows the population Boulder County, slightly over 300,000. You can see the breakdown, but this compares it. So, then we can go back here. And so, then when you go to, for example, Weld, they've had 17,000 confirmed cases, 241 deaths. And then you can look at the details behind their demographics. And I'm slowing down here at the house now because the kids are home. You can see slightly lower population and Weld then in Longmont with a higher case number. So, let us work with Jeff. Okay, that would be great. Because there's some nuances in the way they calculate it, and I want to make sure we have accurate numbers for you all. Okay, thank you. That's a good side to go to. I use that to compare across different counties and looking at how we're performing in this John Hawkins side. Council Member Waters. Thanks, Mayor Begley. Harold, three questions real quickly. What's the source of the data for social distancing, 48, 56 percent? Where do those data come from? The state, they do different scenarios, but a lot of it is so from cell phone data. So, you know how when you go into your cell phone and go, I want to go from here to, let's say, I want to go here from here to Denver, give me the fastest way. And it's pulling the cell phone data to see where it's slowing down. That's a part of the aggregate mobility data in terms of what they're seeing. Again, it can't tell me what I'm doing, but they're just kind of seeing the movement. That's a piece of it. And I can get the rest of the details, but I know it's just the approximate distance of one cell phone to another. Got it? What are you saying? Cell phone movement. If you remember when Jeff presented to you earlier, they were even saying trips to grocery stores, trips to parks. It was really just using that aggregate data from cell phone to tell us where we were going and how we were spending our time. Assuming you're carrying your cell phone. Assuming you're carrying it right. All right. So, that's not as precise as some of the other metrics that we're looking at or indicators. When we just look at the counts, numbers of whether it's cases or hospitalizations, and we see it by county, is that by county of residence or county of where it's diagnosed or treated? Residence is the way it's supposed to be reported. So, if I lived in Larimer County, but I got diagnosed here, I think that has to go to Larimer County is the way it's been explained to me. So, along my resident living in Weld County is accounted for in the Weld County data, not the Boulder County data. Correct. And that's part of what Erie's had to deal with, because Erie Yeah, it's still right down the middle lines. Last question. I was hoping we might see some of the kind of the predictive model at work of our wastewater testing. How far away are we from seeing the results? We're just waiting for the state to push that out public, and we think we'll be there on the first meeting in January, hopefully. Correct, Dale? And it's just a matter of validating the predictive model that you've developed? Correct. All right, thanks. But what I can tell you is we're seeing, movement we're seeing there is showing the movement we're seeing in cases, and it's continuing to move in a way that we would want to see it generally. All right, thanks. All right, is that it, Harold? All right, perfect. Let's go ahead then and take a three minute break while we load up the first call public invited to be heard. If there are no more special reports. So back in three, guys. Okay, folks, now is the time to call in during our public invited to be heard part of our agenda. When you dial in, you will be put into a waiting room and then we'll let you into the meeting. Please make sure that you do mute the live stream. Otherwise, you will be hearing a 30 second delay. So again, let's have you call in and we'll get you into the meeting. Thanks. So again, welcome to those folks that just called in. We will get started here shortly. Once we do come back to the meeting, I will be calling out your phone number by the last three digits and asking you to unmute at that time. Please make sure that you do mute the live stream or you won't be hearing my prompt. You'll be about 20 to 30 seconds delayed. So make sure that you do mute that live stream. Thanks, folks. All right, how are we looking? Two of us. Three of us, four of us, five. Mayor, we do have several callers. I'm just going to wait for the live stream to catch up with us here. And how many several? Let me give that account. One, two, three, four, five. Looks like six. Okay, that's not too bad. Let's just wait for Paulie. Oh, there's Paulie. Let's wait for Susie. There's Susie. All right. Let's go ahead and start it up. We'll get the timer going. All right. We're going to call out the first caller. Your phone number ends in 414. I'm going to ask you to unmute. Please state your name and address for the record. Are you there? 414? You're coming in that is a different ID. I'm still looking for 414. There you are. Can you hear us? Yes, I can. All right. You may begin. Please state your name and address for the record. Sharon O'Leary, 534 Emery Street. Mayor Bagley and council members, I am here tonight as co-chair for Historic East Side Neighborhood, Longmont-Soldis Neighborhood. With the onset of 2021, Longmont will turn 150 years young. We would like to ask you to put historic preservation on your agenda for the City Council's annual retreat. What a perfect opportunity to plan and support preservation as a birthday gift to future generations of Longmont citizens. Presently, Longmont's planning department, half-time preservation planner, was reduced to a quarter time. We have a perfect gift suggestion. In celebration, give the planning department a full-time preservation planner for one year. The gift of a full-time planner for one year will allow the planning department to complete unfinished work, update preservation files, develop architectural guidelines suggestions, and dedicate time to grant writing assistance which could support neighborhoods and businesses. For many years, the Historic East Side Neighborhood has worked very hard as gatekeepers to preserve Longmont's oldest neighborhood. We are a reflection of Longmont's beginning. The West Side neighborhood is a reflection of Longmont as citizens and businesses were successful and other neighborhoods 50 years or older reflect Longmont's continual growth. Every year that a home gets older, Longmont could be adding to potential historic inventory. What a great gift to Longmont if Council made this a priority. Future generations will truly truly benefit from the gift of a one-year full-time preservation planner. Please seriously consider the gift of a full-time planner for one year. I greatly appreciate all you do for the citizens of Longmont. Thank you. Thanks, Ms. Leary. All right, next caller. All right, the next caller, your phone number ends in 488. 488. There you go. Okay. Hi, this is Scott Cunningham. I reside at 3771 South Narcissus Way in Denver, and I'm a practicing internal medicine physician, as I think you all know. I wanted to start by congratulating the Council on voting to begin implementation of recommendations from the Citizen Climate Action Committee, including possible deployment of some type of smart metering system, which potentially brings the city closer to its laudable goal of sustainability. I want to again remind the Council of the great body of scientific, clinical, and medical evidence of the harms of radio frequency radiation inherent in the wireless variety of smart meters, such as the AMI meters, which have now become obsolete, but which are still occasionally offered to municipalities in a misguided effort to reduce the cost of energy. Aside from the well-documented, important, and serious health issues associated with these wireless smart meters, since there's no proven energy savings in these outdated meters whatsoever, I suggest that the Council begin an aggressive search for a safer, wired smart meter that can be embedded into a truly sustainable energy production and management system that's capable of reducing costs, as well as avoiding the predictable uptick in chronic and acute illnesses we would see with the unconservable deployment of these wireless smart meters. Now, I know that the Council is focused on reducing the cost of energy and for good reason. You've been charged by your community with stewarding the currently extremely limited resources the average member of your community has access to. The advantage of leveraging a wired smart meter, in addition to potential cost benefits to the community, is its inherently superior safety profile. Also, since obviously insurers are refusing to ensure these dangerous wireless devices, the city won't be required to bear the prohibitive cost of self-insuring against the inevitable entries that will result from their deployment. Again, congratulations on beginning to move toward a sustainable, market-leading, cost-effective, and above all safe power and communications grid that will truly be admired by municipalities all across the nation. Thank you very much. Thank you, doc. All right, next caller. All right, the next caller, your phone number ends in 499. I'm going to ask you to unmute 499. There you are. Hello. Hello. This is Doe Kelly of Barbary Drive in Longmont. Dear city council and staff, as we enter this sacred time of the year in so many traditions, in my conviction that we, as a community and society, are on the wrong path and our headlong rush into even more wireless technology, and of course by this I mean locally, smart meters, I take the time to quote from the homepage of the 5G International Legal Action Network, and I quote, our species is rushing toward a future that feeds our addiction to speed, instant gratification, energy consumption, and disconnection from Earth. By creatively working together, we have a chance to cause a shift. As I'm prohibited from doing my self-employed activities in the manner I was accustomed before the state mask mandates and safer at home guidelines and therefore become a ward of the state via the gig worker self-employed unemployment insurance thoughtfully brought into assist folks like me, I've come to think the very least I can do is give back to the state and in particular to my community. During this era of hopefully not the great reset as being called forth by Prince Charles, Joe Biden, Klaus Schwab, and Bill Gates, but by raising highly relevant questions and reassessing what's truly important to us in our values as a culture. How, you may be asking, well, obviously by being a bulldog and digging, digging, digging into whatever I can find to hopefully inform, educate, entertain, weedle, or cajole you to sway your opinions around this smart meter rollout so that if you have no choice but to take a deep second, third, and even fourth look at the potential boondoggle of a $15 million investment that may cause fires, we wouldn't want that would we at this time of severe drought in Colorado. Has obvious radiation health risks? Oh, what's a little radiation risk among friends? We're already exposed to the solar radiation at this elevation. Not to mention the background radiation from granite mountains and radon in our houses, never mind 5G, 4G, and all the little Gs and a partridge in a pear tree, a $15 million technology that puts the city of Longmont squarely in a position of liability for damages as no insurance provider I know of will cover the risks of this technology. And that again, with a nod to tiny Tim Shekali has equipment that will soon be, I repeat, obsolete. And yet from what I can see, you're all too eager to follow this dangerous path. Dangerous because it puts all biological life forms in even more harm's way. I have a lot more to say on the subject, but because I tend to be a little long winded, my Christmas gift to you is me stopping here to be continued in part two of this diatribes at council next time. With you, Merry Christmas and a happy holiday. Thank you, all right, next caller. All right, the next caller. We have you listed as 084, 084. I'm going to ask you to unmute. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? We sure can. You may begin. Okay. Thank you very much. My name is David Goldberg. My address is 200 East 23rd Street in Loveland. And appreciate what you all are doing on the council here. I called one of the last meetings where the discussion came up about smart meters. And I made the point, which I'd like to reiterate that from the time that we wake up in the morning until we go to bed at night, we are already inundated with wireless radiation that is hitting us from all sides, from our cell phones to our electricity to our smart meters to our wifi and everything in between. And one thing I didn't mention last time is that there are currently there are satellites getting into the game now. There are currently 864 low orbit satellites above the earth now emitting high frequency radiation down to the planet, adding yet another layer of radiation to what we're already experiencing. So smart meters is going to be another layer on top of that. I have been doing research since we spoke last time and learning more about them. And I do believe, as one of the other callers said, that the wired possibility for smart meters does exist. And I believe that you should be able to use your already existing fiber optic network, which is such a great thing that you have in the city to, to, if you're going to have smart meters to use those fire up fiber optic cables, I think the best choice would be not to have the smart meters at all because they do, even if they come in on a wired connection, they do emit radiation into everybody's homes. And like I said, that's another layer that has to be dealt with. But if the choice is going to be made to have smart meters, wiring is definitely the way to go. There are those in the utility industry who will tell you that the, the radio wave worries and concerns that we have are way overblown. And that's just not true. There is so much science now, thousands of peer reviewed studies that show the dangers of wireless radiation that actually cause autoimmune responses, very similar to flu symptoms. They are real, they're peer reviewed studies. This is not fringe science whatsoever. It's science that's just being ignored by most of the scientific community. In closing, I just want to say it seems like a lot of people will argue that this is the future. Sir, I'm going to have to cut you off. Okay. But thank you for your, thank you for your comments. And thank you all. All right. Thank you. All right. Next caller. Okay. So we have another caller with the same, nope, they hung up. So that was odd. They came in twice. All right. Our last caller is coming in with scout as the phone number. So scout, I'm going to ask you to unmute. There you are. Yes. Hi. And I'm not going to talk about smart leaders or chemtrails or big foot. Don't worry about that. But my name is John Burrow. I'm at 3734 Eagle River Drive. I live in, it's technically on the post office long line, but it's actually in Welk County in Firestone. So I'd like to give you my perspective from being in Welk County. If you don't mind. If you look at the Welk County COVID-19 zip code map, it's pretty clear where the high cases of COVID are coming from in Welk County. To me, if I just look at that from a scientific perspective, they're coming from long line, the city of long line. So I think it's incredibly arrogant and elitist to consider sending a letter telling Welk County what to do as far as following the protocol, when it's clear where the cases are coming from in Welk County. They're clearly, you can just look at that. I'd recommend going to Welk County, just type in Welk County COVID zip map, zip code map. They're clearly coming from the southwest sector, straight from long line. So just consider, don't consider, you know, your neighboring county as a source of your problem. Maybe consider the problem inside your own county and you're affecting other counties. If anything, Welk County could be sending you a letter asking for you to do better in your own house. I do a lot of business in the city of long line, but I will, if this letter that is considered to be sent out, I will take all that business away. So the only thing you're accomplishing by this letter, Welk County is not going to do anything different by sending a letter, a strongly worded letter. You're just going to hurt your own businesses. I have kids that go to dance studios there. I go shop there sometimes, frequent the restaurants, but, you know, if you send a letter telling other counties what to do, you know, that's just an arrogant, elitist grab for headlines, especially by your mayor there. So that's all I wanted to say. Reconsider, don't worry about other counties around you. If anything, the evidence that you shared earlier shows that the numbers are improving in grand counties, actually on your west, western edge, that's even worse than Welk County. So just consider the facts, worry about your own problems. Don't worry about other counties. I live right on the edge of the county, so just wanted to pass that on. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. That's it for first call public invited to be heard. Let's go on to the consent agenda. And I guess I'm not going to cut off the bait or whatever, but just would like to remind people that the consent agenda is so that we all agree that it's a consent agenda. We all pull it off, but nobody's ever opposing anything. So pull it off if you're going to oppose it. But other than that, if it passes, it passes. Supliferous comment as we pass it doesn't really add anything, but I'm not going to stop it. That's just my thoughts. Councilman Martin. I have some fairly substantive questions about item B. I have no intention of opposing it, but I would like to get those questions answered because I think they may require corrections. Okay, Dr. Waters. Thanks, Mayor Bagley. I'd like to pull off item 9G. Okay, B and G. Council Member Prokrysson. Oh, I'm sorry, but I'd like to pull off item E. All right. Council Member Peck. A question on K and there was another one, but I'll just go with that. Okay, so I'm going to move the consent agenda. Last B, E, G and K. Mayor, would you like me to read that consent agenda before we vote? No, go ahead and read it. All right. Thank you. Item 9A is ordinance 2020-02, a bill for an ordinance authorizing a First Amendment to Farmland lease agreement between the City of Longmont and Sype Farms LLC on the Newby Farms open space, public hearing and second reading scheduled for January 12, 2021. 9B is ordinance 2021-03, a bill for an ordinance amending Chapter 16.08, of the Longmont Municipal Code to adopt, by reference, the 2020 edition of the National Electric Code, public hearing and second reading scheduled for January 12, 2021. 9C is ordinance 2021-04, a bill for an ordinance authorizing the City of Longmont to lease the real property known as Vance Brand Municipal Hangar Parcel H6 to the Shook Family Trust, public hearing and second reading scheduled for January 12, 2021. 9D is resolution 2020-133, a resolution of the Longmont City Council proving an amended intergovernmental allotment contract between the City of Longmont acting by and through its utility enterprise and the Windy Gap Firming Project Water Activity Enterprise for capacity in the Windy Gap Firming Project. 9E is resolution 2020-134, a resolution of the Longmont City Council proving the City of Longmont services contract for public, educational and government access television services. 9F is resolution 2020-135, a resolution of the Longmont City Council proving the lease between the City and the Longmont public media for the Carnegie Library Building 457 Fourth Avenue. 9G is resolution 2020-136, a resolution of the Longmont City Council in support of Governor Jared Polis' temporary restrictions because of COVID-19 and urging neighboring counties to also abide by these restrictions. 9H has approved contracts for economic development services with the following organizations Colorado Enterprise Fund, Boulder Small Business Development Center, Longmont Economic Development Partnership and the Latino Chamber. 9I has approved 2021 City of Longmont Water Principles, Colorado Municipal League Policy Statement and National League of Cities priorities in preparation for the 2021 State Legislative Session. 9J has approved three Capital Improvement Program Amendments and 9K has accept 12 Capital Improvement Program Amendments approved by the City Manager. All right my motion still stands, consent agenda less, B, E, G and K. All right it's been moved by myself, seconded by Council Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. All right the motion passes unanimously. Let's go ahead and move on to ordinance on second reading and public hearings on the matter. So we're going to go ahead and take a three minute break and if you are waiting to discuss any of the item 10 ordinances on second reading go ahead and call in now and get in line to have your say during the public hearing. So we're back in three. All right Don do we have anybody online? Mayor we do not. Okay let's fly through this then. Give us just a minute and the stream will catch up to us. Okay and we're still missing a few Council. All right and it looks like you're back. All right let's go ahead and move with uh go ahead Don with item 10A. This is a second reading for ordinance 2020-65 a bill for an ordinance making additional appropriations for the expenses and liabilities of city one month for fiscal year beginning January 1, 2020. Are there any questions from Council? All right saying none we'll go ahead and open and close public hearing as nobody called in. Can we have a motion? I will move ordinance 2020-65. It was moved by myself and seconded by Councilmember Christensen. All in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. All right ordinance 2020-65 passes unanimously. Item 10B ordinance 2020-66 a bill for an ordinance emitting chapter 3.04610 paid holidays designated the Longmont Municipal Code on personal personnel rules. Are there any questions from Council? All right seeing none we're going to go ahead and open and close the public hearing. Councilmember Christensen. I would move passage of ordinance 2020-66. All right it's been moved by Councilmember Christensen and seconded by Councilmember Waters. All in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. All right ordinance 2020-66 passes unanimously. Ordinance 2020-67 a bill for an ordinance emitting chapter 14.08 to the Longmont Municipal Code by adding section 14.08.647 to allow for adjustment to wastewater billing for commercial and industrial use of cooling water. Are there any questions by Council? All right seeing none we'll open and close the public hearing. Do we have a motion? Still moved. All right Councilmember Peck moved. Mayor Pro Tem Rodriguez seconded. Ordinance 2020-67 all in favor say aye. Opposed say nay. All right the motion passes unanimously. Ordinance 2020-69 a bill for an ordinance designating James and Francis Wiggins house at 534 Emory Street is a local historic landmark. Any questions or discussion on this matter? All right seeing none we'll open and close the public hearing. Do we have a motion? All right it's been moved by Dr. Waters seconded by Councilmember Martin. All in favor of ordinance 2020-69 say aye. Opposed say nay. All right ordinance 2020-69 passes unanimously. Ordinance 2020-70 a bill for an ordinance authorizing the City of Longmont to lease the real property known as Vance Brand Municipal Airport Hangar Parcel and HT2 to KLMO Hangar Gang. Any questions or discussion from Council? All right seeing none we'll go ahead and open and close the public hearing. Do we have a motion? I move item E. Yep I'll go ahead and second ordinance 2020 the passage of ordinance 2020-70 all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. All right ordinance 2020-70 passes unanimously. And then finally ordinance 2020-71 a bill for an ordinance repealing and reenacting Chapter 11.04 the Longmont Municipal Code regarding the model traffic code and adopting the 2020 edition of the model traffic code for Colorado by reference. Any discussion? Seeing none we'll open and close the public hearing. Do we have a motion? I move ordinance 2020-71. Second second. Uh uh Tim Water or not Councilmember Waters moved. Councilmember Redaggo-Ferring seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed say nay. All right ordinance 2020-71 passes unanimously. Let's go ahead and move back to consent agenda. Let's go ahead with B. I believe Councilmember Martin. Yes thank you Mayor Bagley. I just have a question and a comment. I think that there is a typographical error in the second amendment. Um unfortunately the city covers it up every time um every time we do okay uh so in the in the second italicized paragraph which is I think an amendment by the city uh there's a typographical error where three words are run together or else two words are in are separated by a space instead of I um the last line sorry that is um it's in line 10 it says including the space what page of the ordinance Councilmember Martin um page three it's page three of the ordinance line 10. Got it. Okay and I'm not sure what it should be including the space it could be several things but it probably should be corrected before it's accepted. We can make that correction for second reading. Okay thank you isn't this second reading? This is the consent agenda. This is the consent agenda excuse me um and then the the next question I have is um um are these two sections uh that is section four and um section F I get I it's it's hard for me to tell what the organization is from the what's in in the packet um are these the only changes in the whole code section from 2017 to 2020 or um are these just exceptions to the 2020 code that Longmont is making from the standard code? Mayor Begley member Councilmember Martin I would ask Bloss if he could turn his camera on and answer that question because I am not able to do that so Bloss if you could turn on your camera and respond to that question. Okay I finally got it okay so the amendments before you for the 2020 NEC are amendments for this specific code there aren't existing amendments but I wasn't involved with those those are currently carrying through to the to the new code the new amendments that we introduced are safety amendments these amendments make the NEC more restrictive not less restrictive we are out of liberty to make codes less restrictive this code has been adopted by the state of Colorado so we do have to maintain uh the same code that they maintain however if we choose to make them more restrictive they don't normally have a problem with that the these amendments have to do with safety and they and we're talking about outlets that are on ground faults that prevent a person from being shocked in a bathroom that's the first one and then the second the second one would be a disconnecting means for power so that the emergency responders can find the disconnect and easily disconnect the power if they have to those have to be located outside of the building and then the third amendment has to do again with receptacles these are receptacles located outside of a building a lot of them are getting too close to the ground and they're they're shorting out because of the snow and rain so we're requiring those receptacles to be raised off the ground to make them more safe that pretty much covers what we're trying to accomplish with these amendments to the 2020 NEC yeah I actually wasn't questioning the substance of the amendments they look fine um what I was asking was are these three elements the only things that change period between 2017 and 2020 or is there a much larger document somewhere that we don't have a link to now now you um council member these uh these are the only amendments that we created for this specific code so there are no other co amendments out there other than the ones that have been in the books from the past adoptions we have done and I think those are we may have two or three other safety amendments that we created previously so all in all I would say there's about maybe seven amendments all together we try to keep this very small but we did we did find these hazards in homes and in businesses so it's a very small group of amendments not not anything significant or sorry I'm still not hearing the answer to my question I'm not asking about how many amendments there are I'm asking about where the full 2020 code lies I would like to look at it you would like to look at the uh the actual NEC code I'd just like to know where it is yes okay we we are going to provide a copy to the city attorney who keeps copies of all of the codes we adopt so uh those can be viewed by the public if they want to those those are located in the city attorney's office so it's not online anywhere no unfortunately we can't post uh the NEC online because it is it is copyright protected okay thank you um I move adoption of uh item B I'll second that all right any further discussion all right all in favor of ordinance 2021-03 on first reading say hi all right hi opposed say nay all right ordinance 2020-103 on the consent agenda passes unanimously all right let's go ahead and go on to uh E was that you Joan no who had E somebody pat had E I all right councilmember christensen uh okay um several months ago I brought this this contract up so that people would have a chance to look at the two things that I objected to I was this is contract and you know they they are they do not feel that they are getting enough money to begin with but I have a part solution for how they can have less to do and therefore more money available the two things that I object to the long-run public media doing which they say they must do because it's in the contract are machine transcriptions which if any of you have looked at those transcriptions they are not good and they make us look very bad because it is solely done by a machine no one looks at it you cannot tell who's talking there is well any of you who know machine transcription know that there's probably a 10 percent error rated and that's one out of every 10 letters so or one out of every 10 words it's it isn't good so if all we are willing to pay for is machine transcription we should drop that from the contract and secondly they do something in which they produce an edited a smaller a shorter version of the city council meeting that isn't needed at all and it's furthermore it's edited I don't agree with the way it's edited and our city website has a very adequate way of doing this where you can take the agenda and you can just click on what's on the agenda and it'll take you straight to the point in the video stream in which that discussion is happening so these two things are really completely unnecessary to be in the contract and I would like to have them both eliminated because they are not only unnecessary but I think they are they make the city look bad so I would move that we eliminate these two items from the contract and approve the contract otherwise councilman I would strongly oppose removing the AI transcript because its purpose is not to let you read the transcript it's to search it for keywords and it's very useful for that I would second this motion if I could get some feedback from maybe an assistant city manager or whoever does this contract and let us know a little more about Scott converse is here you see there he is Scott Scott does anyone object to having Scott technically we usually don't but is it okay if we have Scott anyone object all right Scott do you have anything to add regarding the AI transcript and the editing of city council meetings well the AI transcript is it is what Polly says it's not 100 accurate but no AI transcript is but it does get better over time the more you do it the better it gets so each week that we do it it recognizes more words it recognizes more stuff than than it did six months ago for instance so for a second the AI software itself has been paid for and it's a few hundred dollars a year so you know it's not like it's a huge savings so there's not going to be a whole lot of from that perspective a lot of savings and we have automated a lot of the process of taking the content and having the software do it basically we drop the videos into folders and the software then processes it and dumps that text out and we attach it to videos when we post them so in terms of so that's how the AI stuff works if you don't want to do it that's fine but the impact on the contract from a financial perspective is very minimal the edited version of the city council meeting is something that we do each week takes I think about 90 minutes probably we what's going on right now as you guys are speaking is we are taking notes of what goes on in the meeting and specific things that are relevant like when you guys take a vote and when there's a particular discussion and then next week actually later this week in about two days we should have a finished version based on those notes it's really just we cut we paste we make some transitions and some descriptions of what happens and we post that by Friday morning the reason for that is a whole bunch of other cities do that so we gave some examples of that during the process of bidding for this contract and you guys decided you wanted that so there is a Monday meeting we have with the city every Monday a production meeting and that is one of the topics is what goes into that and what do you want to go into that so you know you guys have control over it already I don't know what to tell you I mean it's basically like I said about probably a total of two maybe high end three hours of work on our part per week something that you're not being charged for towards your 20 hours as is now so all right thanks Scott we can take it out but there's not a lot there's really no savings either. Sandy your hand was up did you want to say something thanks Mary I just wanted to answer councilmember Peck's question you know from a staff perspective both of these things are included as Scott mentioned because they were part of the city council's requirements when we first did this contract this contract is one of the only ones that is exempted from purchasing code because it is council's decision so it really it's really up to you what kinds of things you want to see we could go either way I would agree that I think some of the AI stuff is searchable but it also isn't real accurate so I see both sides of that argument from a city staff perspective it doesn't it doesn't matter either way whatever the council would like to see is fine with us. I personally think that arguing about it is wasting more money than the $200 that we spend actually pay for the AI software and anybody who searches it is going to come across and it's going to be pretty obvious when there's an error so then they can go back in reference the reference the AI transcript and then and as far as editing goes there's a lot of times when we're doing mundane stuff for that that people just want to get over it and on to on to the vote or just to see how things go but so I vote for it for it as is but councilmember christensen well I do I see what councilman martin is saying about searchability but I I don't think that that many people used it for that purpose I I assumed that the purpose of that was for the hearing community or the people who have hearing loss would have a transcript but this is not a good transcript for them and um perhaps it's is getting smarter but last time I looked it wasn't very smart at all and I don't want something that actually makes things more difficult for the hearing community so that's why I bring this up I don't I I find this it's a bad representation of our city but if the majority of council thinks these are not I just find both of these things are not a good reflection of our city if we could make our city council meeting shorter we would I think people deserve to see the whole thing they can always scroll over everything and make it shorter for themselves I have many comments about that comment Polly but I will be quiet um what about okay do you have a motion on the floor anybody yes I I didn't move but there was no second I'm gonna go ahead and I'm just gonna go ahead and move resolution 2020-134 second all right it's been moved and seconded um all in favor of resolution 2020-134 say aye aye aye opposed say may all right the motion the resolution and motion passes unanimously councilmember peck thank you mayor bagley I do have a suggestion for Scott um because you said this gets smarter every year could we uh see when the contract comes up again can we have some kind of data that it is better because if it isn't getting better then there is no point in continuing to do this so um let's track it and see what we come up with thank you appropriate response thumbs up Scott thank you all right let's go on to item uh let's let's skip g let's go on to k real quick uh councilmember peck thank you mayor um actually I just have a couple of questions on this there are the 12 uh well there were nine I guess on our council communication and I'm looking at EL e097 the uh the electric aid to construction so my question is in the council communication we were talking about the HVAC system for some of our municipal buildings so my question here is is this available to uh construction only is it only available to the city is it available to other construction is it only available to commercial or is residential uh allowed in this as well in this amendment if I'm understanding it at all count councilmember peck and mayor bagley uh you know since this is an operational question I'm gonna have to defer to a member of the department if we have one um on the on the meeting in the meeting okay or perhaps even dale so I think part of councilmember peck if I can help with this question are you asking what the intent of the fund is I am and and who gets to actually use this fund because unless I misunderstood the council com it was uh used for HVAC system in municipal buildings so is this goes beyond the city construction or cip projects or is it only for city am I making any sense herald at all dale do you want to jump in and then I can okay mayor bagley and uh councilmember peck you're referring to uh the cip electric aid to construction is that correct correct okay that is a sort of an annual line item in lpc's budget and it covers lpc designs and builds all of the new electrical infrastructure for new development in the city and so the aid to construction project is just that it's to build infrastructure for new development and so it's not specified for any particular house or business but rather um on like a subdivision kind of basis okay thank you that's what I didn't understand if it was only for commercial buildings or any kind of construction so thank you all construction all construction okay great um the other one was uh actually this is for you again dale it is about the um rsvp and I noticed that we still needed 56 million dollars in 2024 to complete this project my question is and probably for uh jim golden as well are we as growing for any of that money at all right now or are we going to come up in 2024 and suddenly need 56 million dollars do we have a path to get that money to uh mayor bagley and councilmember peck that's a great question um we we have any number of different strategies that we are trying to pursue um at the end of the day um our first our first goal if you will is to um certainly get the next reach built which is up to boston that is fully funded and then the next reach from boston avenue to sunset is the reach that we are finalizing all of our contracts and information with the army corps of engineers so that is also funded so once we get to sunset and go west from sunset towards hoover that's where we start to go into a deficit of funding so one of the things the staff is working on right now is preparing a grant application to fema um and it's um it's a pretty substantial grant it's in the I believe over 10 million dollars that we are looking for grant funding um um that's the kind of dollars that will get us up to hoover okay once we're at hoover street from hoover to airport uh we honestly do not have a real clear picture on that funding but what's important is once you get to hoover and get across hoover all of the city east of hoover road um all of that area is is protected from future flooding it's removed from the flood plane okay so so the answer is a little bit of both we got we got we're doing it incrementally which is what we've told the citizens that we would try to bring as much federal dollars and other dollars to this effort as we could um but at the end of the day um there there may be to be sand additional bond issuance in the storm drainage enterprise utility to complete the work okay thank you uh and with that i'll move k second it's been moved by jones seconded by marcia all in favor of consent agenda item k say i i oppose say nay all right item 10 k passes unanimously let's go ahead and go on to item g resolution 2020-136 dr waters you pulled this i did um there's i i have no questions about the point that that we're trying to make here um it just seems to me that that given uh the message that we've already communicated in in what we'd like to communicate and our appeal to other municipalities to join us uh in a call on other elected officials to join us on the higher ground um the wording of the resolution might be a little more encouraging and a little less demanding uh so i as i looked at the resolution uh you have you have what what i would what i if it were just up to me the language that i would put in the resolution and if and if that was acceptable then the letter that would go uh out would reflect a little bit of a softer approach to reflect the resolution i'm assuming that the only vote that's going to occur here is on the resolution since the letter is over the mayor's signature it is up to the mayor but if but if the language in the letter it's going to go out as as it was written initially then then there's more discussion not like to have about that but it just seems to me that the appeal both to other elected officials other municipalities and the well county commissioners if we could um uh simply be more encouraging and less demanding i think we might get a better response at least from other municipalities so you have in front of you what i would what i would recommend and if you want a motion on that mayor i'll make it or i'll defer to you but let's hold on again hold on my mic i just got to plug in my computer real quick hold one second sorry about that guys all right mayor pro tem thank you mayor bagley um first of all i want to acknowledge one thing is that in my opinion i don't think that said letter or resolution will make any difference to the well county commissioners that being said i think it's important that if we do move forward with the resolution that we do move forward as a unanimous body on it um i actually do very much appreciate council member waters um alterations of the text because i i feel that that was probably one of the biggest culprits was the way it was written and the way the media portrayed that in the backlash that the council has received i feel that if it was less especially considering it was a resolution if it was it was if it was less demanding i don't think we would have necessarily received the same backlash would we've received some of course but i don't think we would have received the same amount as such i'm very much supportive if council member waters is saying that he'll only vote for this if the language is altered i'm very much supportive of altering the language because again i i think the important part is unanimity amongst the council members in this and so i would actually like to move the resolution forward with the amended language provided by council member waters i'll second that council member peck so my question is if we amend this letter can we uh agree that we just amend it and send it as it is without having it come back to council for on a second reading yeah because that would be too late it's a resolution it doesn't come back on second reading and i guess in mayor pro tem who are you kidding i i caused the backlash i get that and my whole point in doing so was to get people talking well county ignored 23 mayors who sent a nice letter and uh they might resist i don't expect them to do anything but everybody in well county understood what we said they can call us hypocrites they can call us our fault at our fault i'm i don't even i couldn't even put my finger on anything necessarily the well county citizens into themselves are doing my whole point was like him or not we elected the governor and he's the guy calling the shots right now and so we've all got to be a unified body that's it and no one was paying attention now they are so uh i think it's a great idea so anybody else have any other comments before we vote all right do you want to move that since you pulled it dr waters uh well we've actually we actually moved it yeah mary pro tem already moved it and i seconded it all right all in favor of resolution 2020-136 say aye all right all right opposed say nay all right that passes unanimously let's move on to i just clarify we can prove the resolution has abandoned yes it was as amended and and will you since it's your letter will you um do uh whatever you do with the final version of letter i will if there's a typo or grammatical error i will change it but substantively we're gonna the version that you drafted and corrected that's what's going out with my signature i have no problem with that all right let's wrap this up with general business um i actually moved that we recessed the longmont city council and convened as the board of commissioners the longmont urban renewal authority second i've been moved and seconded by dr waters all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay all right let's go to item 12a resolution l u r a 2020-02 a resolution of the board of commissioners the longmont urban renewal authority enacting a supplemental budget and making an additional appropriation for the expenses and liabilities of the authority for the fiscal year beginning january 1st 2020 do we have a motion so move all right it's been moved by councilman martin and seconded by dr waters on favor of resolution l u r a 2020-02 say aye aye opposed say nay all right item 12a resolution l u r a 2020-02 passes unanimously uh do we have a motion to adjourn as the board of commissioners along on urban renewal authority and reconvene as the city council so no second all right it's been moved by a council member peck seconded by council member martin all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay all right the motion carries unanimously let's go on to board and commission appointments so where is my uh i just need to find my notebook because that's why it was late today so i don't see it here so can we just take a two minute break please be right back sorry about that guys mayor bagley is that your television in the background you need to be muted if it is yeah yeah that's somebody's watching tv in the next room yeah i don't see you marcia where you at there she is all right so we go ahead and start with the airport advisory board we sure can mayor there are two positions available for terms ending december 31st 2023 we'll do these by motion since we are virtual all right i'm gonna go ahead and just start moving and then if you guys uh have questions comments concerns just say no all right i'm gonna move richard dean to serve as a regular member terminating december 31st 2023 23 councilor christensen and again it hasn't been seconded so no debate i'll second that okay all right now it's been moved in second councilor christensen can't we just put these people's names up and then vote on them that's what we've done before instead we don't have the information to pull up on the screen we don't have ballots since we're in a virtual world so when we did this mid-year we did this via motion and vote well since there are two regular members here can we make it one motion to move two people at once or well we can do that on others but it's there's been a motion in a second okay but uh all in favor of richard dean say aye all right opposed say no all right richard dean passes unanimously um joan go ahead i moved that we uh point russell robinson to the i'll second that all in favor say aye all right all right opposed say nay all right russell robinson is appointed unanimously let's go ahead to art and public places commission and this one has three unexpired terms mayor i don't know if you want to three individual votes or well i think that uh what i don't know let's let's just keep going one at a time okay and then uh i'm going to move treesa baxter second all right all in favor say aye all right all right the post say nay okay all right so it's that passes six to one with councilmember christensen uh objecting for dissenting anybody else or do you want me to keep throwing them out i'm actually going to move uh jennifer miller second all right all in favor of jennifer miller say aye all right opposed say nay hey all right passes six to one with councillor christensen dissenting somebody want to vote move another one on that one councillor martin i moved danielle caviney second it's been moved by councillor martin and seconded by dr waters all in favor of danielle caviney say aye aye aye opposed say nay all right then that passes unanimously as well looks like treesa baxter danielle caviney and jennifer miller are in public places folks i'm going to move for the callahan house that we appoint karen cruce and ann topson to the two regular member terms ending december 31st 2023 all in favor say aye opposed say nay okay that passes unanimously all right let's go ahead and the downtown development authority um we've got three applicants and one person um available to to have the position anybody want to make a motion councillor peck i moved that we appoint west parker to dda second and all right any debate on this one all right all in favor say aye all right i opposed say nay all right i'm so that was who is who is nay me councilmember did i go faring mayor protan did you have a comment yeah i just wanted to say that because we don't normally take debate on these we just normally vote that maybe we limit debate i thought i agree with you whole heart i agree with you wholeheartedly i just saw a couple hands go out so i could i didn't know if people were i was trying to be polite i didn't know if they were voting or if they were trying to get my attention so all right so all in favor of west parker say aye aye uh opposed say nay all right that passes six to one with councilmember dojo faring and the dissent all right golf course advisory board does someone want to make a make a motion i'll move uh we appoint justin drake second good all in favor of justin drake say aye all right opposed say nay all right i mean i move we approve approve or appoint al wolden second all right all is in motion all in favor of al wolden say aye aye all right opposed say nay all right justin drake and justin drake and al wolden um are appointed unanimously to the regular member terms ending December 31st 2023 let's go on to housing human services advisory board three regular regular members ending December 31st 2023 um i was gonna councilmember christensen i would move uh katelyn abbott second all in favor of katelyn abbott say aye aye opposed say nay all right that passes unanimously i'm gonna actually move kimberley strang second second all in favor of kimberley strang say aye aye opposed say nay all right kimberley strang passes unanimously councilmember christensen i would move deanna blair i'll second that all in favor say aye for deanna blair aye aye opposed say nay all right that passes unanimously for deanna blair katelyn abbott deanna blair and kimberley strang are appointed to the three regular member terms ending December 31st 2023 all right um master board of appeals um uh do you have a motion for who will serve the ultimate member i actually move adam goldstone to be the ultimate member okay to be to have a second i move don russell as the ultimate member i would second both of those okay i'm just i'm just trying to it doesn't matter we're gonna point all four but who who want anyone want to make a motion for the alternate member i don't have a preference all right i'm gonna go ahead and move adam goldstone then is the the alternate second all right all in favor of adam goldstone being the ultimate alternate member term ending 1231 2023 say aye aye opposed say nay all right adam goldstone is appointed the ultimate member unanimously and i'm also gonna move don russell andy ulmer and chris boswig to be appointed the three regular member terms ending 1231 2023 second all right it's uh all in favor say aye hi hi opposed say nay all right don russell andy ulmer and chris boswig or hibri uh unanimously appointed to the three regular member terms ending 1220 1231 23 all right let's go on to the mop mopc pension board um i'm gonna actually the council member christensen i would move kathy coppela i'll second that all in favor of kathy coppela say aye aye opposed say nay all right that passes unanimously and kathy coppela is appointed to the unexpired regular term ending june 30th uh 2023 all right let's go to the museum advisory board susie doggo faring she moves caldonia cordoba and i'll second that i do actually but i i'll move caldonia cordoba for the record i'll second that all right all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay hey all right so uh it passes six to one with council member christensen uh in the uh descent all right let's go on to personal privilege sure mayor it's your house could you please have the volume turned down because it's very distracting for the rest of us all right the uh i've i've turned it down but i have i'm about a year about a year ago i decided that i'm not going to impact my personal life for council anymore so i'll resign before i tell my family to stop their behavior activities based on council anymore but i've turned it down let's go ahead and do planning and zoning we'll come back to parks and rec that one could get messy all right do we have a motion for one uh one regular member term ending december 31st 2025 uh mr mayor i move judson height all right i'll second that all right all in all in favor of judson height say aye all right opposed say nay all right judson height is hereby appointed a regular member term ending december 31st 2025 all right let's go ahead and move on to alternate member terms ending december 31st 2022 thank you mr mayor i move salina color all right all in favor of salina color i i i opposed say may all right salina color is appointed an alternate member uh ending december 31st 2022 unanimously anybody else mr mayor i move on a lucachi as an alternate member i'll second that all in favor say aye opposed say nay all right analyzer lucachi is hereby appointed an alternate and then we need one more i'm gonna actually move jerry boone second all right all in favor say aye hi hi all right nay all right uh judson height is the regular member and then jerry boone salina uh color and analyzer lucachi are appointed to alternate member terms ending december 31st 2022 all right okay let's go on to senior citizens advisory board mr mayor um go ahead councilman ron yeah uh there are only uh two positions i move shila konroy and julie hauser i'll second that on favor say aye opposed say nay all right then shila konroy and julie hauser are appointed unanimously to two or each two regular member term ending december 31st 2023 sustainability advisory board i'm gonna actually move kimberley rinkins second all right uh councilmember christensen it's your board did you have a comment or were you gonna propose someone i was gonna propose on it in the claim okay well we've got a motion on the floor yeah all in favor for kimberley rinkin say i i oppose say nay raise your hand if you're in a all right so the motion fails uh three to four all right councilmember christensen i would move uh lennette mclean second all right it's been moved and seconded all in favor say i i nay say nay nay all right so raise your hand if you're in a all right the motion fails mere pletem do you have a motion yes mr mayor i move catherine or k volmeyer i'll second that all in favor of catherine volmeyer say i i oppose say nay raise your hand if you're nays all right the motion carries five to two with councilmember's uh idago faring and peck in the descent visit longmont board i'm gonna actually move stacey litwin second second all right it's been moved and seconded that stacey litwin served the regular term ending december 31st 2023 say i i i oppose say nay hey any other raise your hand if you're in a all right the motion carries six to one um let's see here and yeah so stacey litwin's it let's move back to parks and rec advisory board we've got three regular terms ending december 31st 2023 mr mayor i move dan olson i'll second that all in favor is dan olson say i i i oppose say may all right dan olson is appointed a regular term ending december 31st 2023 unanimously i'm gonna move scott conlan second all in favor of scott conlan say i i i oppose say nay nay all right raise your hand if you're in a will you okay so it passes five to two with mayor pro temo agriguez and councilmember christensen in the descent thank you move back i move nicolas novello again all right i'll all in favor of nicolas novello say i i i oppose say nay all right nicolas novello is appointed unanimously all right um that means scott conlan nicolas novello and dan olson are hereby appointed three or a regular member terms ending december 31st 2023 did we miss anything don we did not thank you mayor and council all righty yeah and and by the way i but in marsha what i said earlier was not to be disrespectful or snarky it's just that we're in covet at home and i can't have people locked in their rooms and uh they've given up enough because of my political uh hobby so i just i i they voluntarily turned it down but i just i just am really hesitant to make anybody do anything now all right so let's go ahead to mayor and council comments i'm sorry i know final call public invite to be heard it's a regular session tonight so let's go ahead and take a two minute break and see who calls in back in three down to you there i am um could you send john fryer uh what the the edited uh resolution and and letters sure will i also asked marica and sandi to do that i don't know if they've done it yeah i got a text from john i think that was on too but we'll give the uh live stream just a few more seconds to get caught up currently we have no one in our waiting room well then we'll go ahead and close final call public invite to be heard and when everybody's back we'll go on with mayor and council comments let's wait till they're all back before you'll go first councilmember christiansen i just want you i want the other three to hear your words of wisdom all right councilmember christiansen so nobody will have to deal with us for another couple weeks yay i just want to wish everybody out there merry christmas a happy conica every holiday that you're celebrating and please stay healthy and take care of your family thanks dr waters and then council yeah i should probably just shut up and seize and greetings as well but i'm going to make one more appeal um that we that we take a serious thought give serious thought to a better approach and process this whole process we just went through of appointing organ commission members and it's you know it's not worth doing tonight i just had to interview 47 people on a saturday and to go through this process tonight when we could have had boards and commissions interview recommend their finalist us who we would then interview so that way we get our blessing from the people who know best what kept court boards and commissions need it just doesn't make sense in terms of any kind of good practice to get people with the right skill sets and dispositions in the positions that are needed on boards and commissions so i won't say any more now but i just think before we do this again we need to rethink our role in this and that is the closest thing that you'll hear tim waters saying merry christmas that was that yes merry christmas to you too dr waters councilman martin thank you mayor bagley i would just like to urge that people have a safe and constrained holiday stay in your pods keep your family safe save your nickels and dimes for a really fine party next year please keep us all safe right councilmember peck i think i skipped you i'm sorry okay um yes i just want to also wish everyone a happy holidays but also take some time to drive around longmont and look at the incredible lights the lights on roosevelt roosevelt park are amazing and i have noticed that people have come out more with more lights more festivities more fun and i think it is probably a result of being in our home so much that it's a good way to express holiday feelings joy happiness so um see you next year mayor pro tem thank you mayor bagley first i might suggest that maybe not this year obviously but next year or something the council schedule a social airing of grievances festivist like i think that would be entertaining um either way i do also want to say uh you know may christmas happy holidays to everybody as well as don't forget to continue in as safely as you possibly can support our small businesses through via christmas shopping holiday shopping getting your food takeout whatever is safest and best idea for you in your household but please continue to support our small businesses thank you that includes a wrestling match though if we're going to do it right we wrestle and make sure we have the right poll and then the right poll councillor mangrover here you don't go faring i really like that idea i have a ton of grievances out on air oh man so um you know i just i want to wish everybody a very safe and happy holiday um one thing that i've learned or one thing that a good thing that has happened out of all this and here i am in quarantine i have my teaching stuff here so i'm actually no teaching from home so i haven't left the spot since 7 30 this morning and uh but um to wish everybody a very safe and happy holiday with your family um we have really connected as a family in ways that you know we haven't in years so that's that's something i can be grateful for um and i'm hoping that that is the case with many of you out there um this is a very you know i've i've worked with a lot of families i've worked with a lot of folks who you know this is a very difficult time and you know just you know i'm trying to be really patient with people that i come across and just trying to you know understand that not everyone is coming from my my perspective that everybody's having their own burdens and stresses and so kind of practice that forgiveness um among each other and practicing that hard with my significant other and my kids and and my neighbors and and other friends and family so you know that's that's the message i want to share out with everybody and something that i've been doing with small businesses is we've made the commitment as a family to either donate to a nonprofit or you know groups that have been hit really hard or the arts community so just you know sometimes i'll just throw in a 20 or wherever i can you know i've been fortunate that we could do that as a family um plus i also recently broke it to my kids that um that's their christmas gift we're local donating to local businesses and and yeah and every day we just kind of spend our spend our money somewhere somewhere local so i've been really good about posting things but lately i just i i haven't but still every day we're putting a little something out there to the community so wishing everybody the best all right great i just want to say merry christmas happy holidays all that kind of stuff and i hope that uh come january the world treats you one another a hell of a lot better than they did this year and uh i'm just i'm ashamed to be human almost if the vitriol and the hatred that people have conveyed to one another over politics it's just all it's mind-blowing to me so i'm going to try to forget all that hopefully when we come back in a couple weeks it will somehow miraculously change but i doubt it so all right do we have a uh a city manager who wants to make some comments first i want to say um happy holidays to everyone um thanks for another year this one has been challenging for all of us um and looking positive that 20 you know 21 will be a better year as we continue to move forward as a community but joanie also wants to introduce you to our new planning director joanie thanks herald mayor and council um i wanted to welcome and introduce the council to glenn vendem wagon glenn um is our new planning director and i wrote you an email several weeks ago that he would be uh starting this month so for me that's going to make 2021 already seem a whole lot better so um glenn is on this evening um and has sat in on the last couple of council meetings and will be uh coming to planning commission tomorrow night as well glenn i don't know if you want to say anything or give a shout out but either way i'm just thrilled to be here that's i'll leave it at that welcome glenn thank you more colleagues mayor council eugene why are you on a tie why are you on a tie eugene you're looking for a raise or something i was dispensing justice this morning at the municipal court dispense it my friend dispense nice so happy and safe holidays to everyone that's it mayor all right great do we have a motion to conclude this meeting it's all moved second all right it's been moved and seconded all in favor of concluding and then reconvening in what three weeks from today right three weeks don't no council member for two weeks council meeting for two weeks all in favor say aye aye opposed say nay okay all right cool then i will see you guys in three all right later guys all right