 Join us now to look at the unfortunate incident is a security expert, Dennis Amakri. Good evening, Dennis Amakri. Good evening. Thank you for having me. Now, quick one. This mishap is one of too many. It has become a real current decimal. Don't you think that the security agencies should have worked with the reliable human intelligence report on ground before any offensive attack which would have prevented the death of these innocent citizens? I agree with you. I agree with you personally because I think it's either intelligence failure for us to have this kind of casualty. And of course there was also some lack of cooperation between the Nigerian Air Force and the Nigerian Army. Although I know that there is a flying wing among the Nigerian Army, just like you have in the Navy. But I think it has been agreed that most of this kind of operation against bandits is going to be joint operations. What should the government do to nip in the bud this national and international embarrassment? Because everybody seems to be talking about this incident across the world. What should the government do to nip in the bud this incident? There are two major things that could happen. First of all, one is to strengthen our intelligence infrastructure. And that should come in the sense of trying to get some of the locals on ground to be working with the security forces. And then number two is that I believe, but I want to believe that the new technology that is being used, those predator drones that are being used, there should be more training on them so that you know exactly what is happening. You talked about locales. How can these prevent anything? Locales being on ground. How would they communicate with the military guys, I mean the Army, to prevent this kind of issue? I'm looking at you talking about being on ground locals. What could they have done differently? This particular thing we are engaged in, this insurgency, banditry and all the rest involve locals. And in fact, this particular situation that we are talking about is where the bandits have used human shields. They are using the public, the citizens as human shields. They go and mix up with the locals and then in case you attack them, then you also will attack ordinary citizens. So we need to talk to locals. We need to have agents on ground to cultivate some of them in such a way that if there is an attack going to preeminent attack that is going to happen, then they should be able to transmit it to the control center where the attack started. And then of course, they will also learn how to isolate, isolate the terrorists from the bandits, the terrorists from the public. So these are things to be done. And when you do that, then you will know that whichever attack you carry out is carried out precisionally. They have to be serious precision, especially when you are dealing with predator drones. Okay. The military announced a compensation plan for the diseased families. We'll know that no amount can wipe out the indelible trauma on the families who have lost their loved ones to this ugly and unfortunate mishap. What kind of compensation plan do you think the government can put in place that will go a long way and bring some sort of so-called to the affected families? One thing is this. Even the natives that were there, the community people, they were not actually looking for compensation. It is the military and the security agencies after their meeting on yesterday decided to look. Some of the people who are dead are breadwinners of this community, although they don't want any kind of compensation, because some of them, especially those of them who are Muslims, were saying that it's the will of Allah. But there should be, there is a need to help them at least get through this particular problem, medically and of course otherwise to keep them from suffering what has happened. So they can do that. They can do that. And at the same time, there are other things they could do and which is major. And that is try and clear out the bandits, clear them out. We've been fighting these bandits for years and look at where it has brought us to. You know, we need to clear them out right from when the former president Guhaire was in power. These bandits have been there. As a security expert, are you talking about clearing them out? How can they do this? How can they find a lasting solution to clearing these bandits out because it's been a major menace in the country? Well, I think one of the ways of clearing them out is what happened on Sunday night, whereby they were attacking them and then trying to decimate their numbers. And of course, the military has got some wins. This is not even the first one. They've got some wins where they've even captured their leaders, decimated them where they were hiding in their enclaves and stuff like that. That can be done. Number two is the dialogue side of it where I don't think it worked out very well. Talk with them and then send them out of the country because some of them are not from this country. They are not Nigerians, you know, so there is need also to make sure, maybe we can use the carrot and stick that the military is using now, deal with them up to the extent that they are ready to talk. And then when they are ready to talk, tell them that okay, it's high time you leave this place alone. Thank you so much, Mr. Dennis Amakri. Thank you for having me. We've been discussing with Dennis Amakri on the issue of the bombardment that happened in Kaduna State.