 What up fam surprise fucking motion graphics are going on my about a new desk I'm pretty excited with it my second standing desk just fucking dope Anyway, welcome back to the red man group episode 140 Anthony Johnson air CEO and co-founder the red man group president 21 Studios the Manusphere 21 convention 22 convention 21 University We're sponsored today by 21 University comm go there sign up free trial for 30 days And it's 20 bucks a month 1999 to stay if you want supports a channel red man group 20 in studios 21 convention all that stuff You can also search 21 University on the app store Google or Apple download the free app same thing free 30-day trial It's got all the exclusive new speeches from 21 convention there early ad-free censorship free I appreciate you have an account downloading the app leaving a review all the good jazz Now without further ado today's episode is 140 of the red man group It's gonna be a guest starring today, you know on the show DDJ doomsday Jesus author of the feminist lie You guys should take that book out on Amazon's fucking dope bestseller very very hot item and it's a great deal I've met him in real life. So I've kind of vetted this guy. No, I'm spent a couple weeks over in Florida Back in 2019 very good man. He's been in the show a bunch of times and today I'm talking about the truth about McDowell, which is the predominant community in the tribe of the Manusphere that DDJ Bob Lewis is from he's one of the most respected leaders and The wisest leaders of my judgment in the McDowell community right now and we're talking about the McDowell community itself What it means the misconceptions the truths about it the falsehoods and how it compares to the other tribes and such in the Manusphere itself PUA dating coaches red pill MRA men's rights things like that now without further ado Welcome to the show today. Mr. DDJ himself. What's up fam? Hey, what's going on man? It's good to be here Thanks for having me on today. Fuck yeah, man. I'm very excited I think it needs to be done, you know, we've done a lot of truth about videos lately Last week, of course, we did the state of the red pill with undead chronic and his buddy the party frog I thought they weren't really good So I'm excited to follow up with a much more focused video on McDowell itself. So again, thanks for coming on man Yeah, and you know, one of the things I have to say that I was really impressed about with regard to undead chronic and ribby is that both are well-spoken Both really consider kind of their message what they're gonna say prior to saying it And you can tell that both have a fair amount of not just education But they really spent a lot of time about thinking about these things and the reality is is that stupid people can't do comedy And they demonstrate, you know, that because they're able to successfully do comedy, you know They have a couple more brain cells Well, that's why if you notice no one my enemies that I fight and make fun of and stuff that you see a lot They can't even make any memes back. There's such losers. They're just dumb Right and you have to be intelligent to have a high Q to make memes and I'm the memelord obviously like a well And yeah, and and and just as importantly you have to have a sense of wit. So so I totally get that So while I've been disclaimer hang on real quick, I'm not make tell by the way for anybody new to the show I do have a respect for the community and an interest and I think it needs to be discussed That's during the show today, but I'm kind of a neutral party looking to observe and you know Investigate this community with you now He he says that now No, no, you're good, you're good. So for those people who don't know me um I got into law accidentally. I was uh, you know, joe schmo blue collar worker in my early 20s when My children got into a situation. I was a single father with custody of my kids and my kids got into a situation where they were being Physically psychologically emotionally and sexually assaulted by their stepfather and When I went out of my way to protect them Um The entire system was arrayed against me I mean you would think that when you report a crime to the sheriff's department, they would step in and go Yeah, let's do an investigation that never happened You would think that shop protective services would step in that never happened You would think that there were you know other opportunities for people to come in and protect these kids because That's their stated mission in many of these cases like the family court and all these things none of that happened And so, um, let me increase my volume. Hold on. Is that a little better? Yeah, it's fine for me. I was just asking the audience to make sure on the chat Right. Well, I just turned mine up a little bit. I hope that's better for the audience Okay, um, and so anyway my my biggest concern In this process was protecting my kids But what I found in the process of doing that was that not only was I the only one or not the only one going through this But there were many other fathers many other not even actually in some cases mothers going through this same sort of thing and It was really frustrating Because we were all on the same page and we were all trying to protect our children and this actually created a um A natural transition for me just kind of being normal to walking into the mra community We fast forward a little bit farther. We passed a couple laws But what I found was over the course of time Was that, you know working in the legal field I ended up becoming a paralegal. I've been a paralegal since 1996 Focusing primarily on what I refer to as high conflict litigation So a lot of people think divorce in general is high conflict and and while emotionally charged From a legal standpoint, it's not But when I say high conflict I'm talking about issues of child abuse issues of multiple streams of ligation Accurate accusations as well as false accusations in defending against them And one of the things I found in researching the case law in writing the briefs doing the research and learning from all these attorneys was that For every person you help there's three or four getting screwed And and I realized very quickly that I had to be able to find a way not only to help myself and move on But I had to figure out a way to my mind To help other people in a way to where they can help themselves And you know a lot of people they want you to fish for them, you know, they don't want to learn how to fish They don't want to do the work necessary. They think it's daunting. They would rather Um, you know go watch the sports game or go play the video game This is my fishing handbook by the way Probably a good divorce rate Well, and and I'm getting ready to actually write a divorce manual. Uh, how to how to survive family court type of situation Um, so yeah, so hashtag shill alert check out the book Um, you know and to that to that regard too When I wrote the book, I thought I was going to be like the old man. I'm a grandfather I thought I was going to be like the old man screaming, you know get off my lawn, right? The book became a best seller in multiple areas It's got a 4.5 out of five stars nearly 400 reviews um A lot of people have read it. I believe it's necessary reading for any man 16 and over And as far as all that's concerned, you know jumping back to to kind of where I come from When my second divorce failed, see I made the mistake that a lot of guys make I got divorced the first or got divorced the first time and I went. Oh, that's her fault Which was somewhat accurate But really I should have probably never been married to begin with to that particular person. I chores poorly I was young. I was dumb, you know, and when you're young and dumb, you think you're invincible You think you can do no wrong And yeah, it's the old saying young dumb full come right it is. Yeah, and and really, you know My lack of knowledge was replaced by an overestimation of my, you know, aggression and confidence And let me tell you something nobody out alphas the family court. I don't care I don't care who you are. You are not out alpha in the family court You are not going to out alpha the law enforcement agent with the gun standing by your car pulling you over a ticket or anything else, right? um And if by chance you do Trust me, you're gonna end up dead at some point very soon from, you know, government and law enforcement. So but that said, um I really Realized with my second marriage and its failure I realized the problem wasn't me and What I found was was that in addition to, um Really focusing on The core of the problem. I realized the problem was bigger than the family court. It was bigger than Discrimination against men or you know, it what it was is it was a it was a form of institutionalized misandry that had been Happening for a long time But it's just like the immigration debate, right? So like I was one of the first people When the conversation about immigration came up. I was one of the first people on the internet that said look these illegal immigrants are being taken advantage of just as much as Everybody else is concerned and part of that is because you had illegal traffickers human traffickers Both in the ngo's and working with the cartels Who were going through and they were telling these immigrants a lie So you get these immigrants heading up to the united states the women like 70 80 percent of these women are getting sexually assaulted Many of these men are getting assaulted All of them are being extorted and and basically by the time they get to the united states borders They're crime victims and they're suffering from PTSD and a variety of other things. Well, the same is true With regard to institutionalized misandry as it relates to Men and women so a lot of women have been lied to and they've been told look You have found this nice youtube channel by the lake on miss andrew today. It's a great family. Check it out, man It's not only on youtube miss andrew today is now on bit shoot and it is also on minds.com um But but the point is is that Not only were these men being lied to generations of men being lied to We're being definitely misinformed, but on the same token The women were being lied to as well. They were told look you can have it all You could be a professional you can go get your degree You can do anything a man can do and we've all seen the videos of the female cops in the uk just getting wrecked because They don't have the physical capacity as a male police officer and and they don't command the respect We've all seen the articles and you can go back 10 years And there's articles from professional feminists from like I said up to 10 years ago and they're miserable And and I want to say there was a lady in The united kingdom who was a second-wave feminist. She opened up the first Men's shelter domestic violence shelter in the united kingdom And she said I think it was a men's shelter. I don't quote me on that part. I don't remember completely but what the one thing she said was was that Feminism is really good for a woman under 30 Any woman who's over 30 all of a sudden by year feminism that the The advantages of feminism go down And that's because in part Feminism promotes the ideology of me in other words the the individual over everything else And so it destroys. Yeah, Erin. Pizzy. There we go. So it destroys Families it destroys marriages. It destroys men. It destroys children and In the end after all those things are dead and gone and that familial legacy is dead And trust me divorce creates Multi-generational trauma. It is your children go through it Their children go through it. It becomes your family history Legacy go ahead and we pause on that because I'm sure you have some stats We can pull out here pretty fast and I'm vaguely familiar with them too It's that once you get divorced the odds Well, number one if you're married and you have children someday if they get married They have a chance of divorce like anyone else, right? Sure absent other statistical factors and democratic factors The issue I think you're getting at is that the once you get divorced the parents The odds of the children getting divorced go up and then that passes on to the grandchildren who will then themselves Have a higher probability. You know what I mean? Like it's so it's assuming that it's assuming that your children get there So you have to understand that like once that divorce happens You're talking this is this becomes full spectrum trauma for these kids So these kids even before they turn 18, they're more likely to be suicidal They're more likely to live high-risk lifestyles. They're more likely to do drugs and alcohol be suffering from Depression and all those other things that are there, right? And then on top of that, but here's here's a secret that most people aren't going to tell you about divorce A man and woman get divorced, right? And let's say the woman is suffering from bipolar or she's suffering from some other mental health issue Or maybe she's you know an alcoholic that got out of control. Maybe, you know, she was like the binge drinker And now she's the day drinker type of thing You go to court the man gets raked over the coals in court He brings all this to the court's attention. The court doesn't care. He loses custody of his kids Now part of that is because the courts are misandrous and I've said this many times And I'm going through other cases where I'm helping clients and they're finding this to be true You're going to get a more fair court case if you are an african-american male And your judge, jury and executioner is all members of the KKK Then you will in family court in front of feminists Now with that said What ends up happening then is then here's the dirty little secret those children become job creators And what I mean by that is is that once the divorce is over once the woman is one She's like, yeah, I'm a woman hear me roar, right? And everybody else kind of carried her through like it's kind of like her um, what do they call it the uh I can't even think of the word right now But basically she doesn't do the work herself like everybody else carries her through it, right? So anyway, my point is is that once everything is done once the divorce is said and done And then the kids go to school and the kids tell one of their school counselors, you know Mommy likes white wine, you know, mommy likes red wine or mommy likes, you know, vodka cranberries or whatever it is Mommy likes all the wine mommy likes all the wine or whatever the situation is right They tell their counselor this cps comes in and swoops up their kids and takes them from her too because They put these children purposefully in harm's way In order to take the kids from the mom to put them in the foster care system So not only is the family court earning income and getting federal dollars as a direct result Of dad getting divorce raped in the family court and just getting raked over the coals, right? but in addition to that The court and the state and the local governments are only They're also getting federal funds from title 4d programs Then when you transfer these kids to child protective services You can now triple dip into the federal dollars under title 4e, which is the juvenile court system So the point here is that these children are job creators these children are are are, you know, basically economic power houses That basically create and maintain These county and state level welfare states And it is an absolute tragedy So the reason I want to bring that up is because I think that talking about the welfare state You can't really have a well educated well informed conversations about Missandri about migtao about the manasphere or about men without really talking about the damage and the destructive power of the welfare state Now with that said Now that you kind of have that context in your mind Those were the things I thought I was thinking about when I first discovered what I wouldn't say discovered I mean, I had been kind of online since mid 2000s between 2000 2010 probably 2003 to 2007 or something um And I started thinking about migtao and I started discovering migtao content Um, and many people weren't really discussing it in those terms Um, you know, but like puas were discussing it in those terms at the time and those sorts of things Now with that said Migtao made sense Walk the fuck away, right? And and the reason that that was so compelling and so powerful to me is because you see once a man loses the divorce Once he loses custody once he's forced on child support normally set too high by design by the way They just keep coming anytime the man says something anytime he becomes a protective parent They rake him over the coals. Listen. I dox myself to file my lawsuit against google, okay My divorce is public record Anybody who who is interested who hates me or or or respects me enough who wants to look at my background My divorce is public record my failed appeal to defend my divorce or my post divorce was a public record It was a five-year fight. Do you have some haters in the manusphere like myself? uh I have some people who identify as being a portion of the manusphere who are haters, but I mean Nobody important enough to bring up. I mean, you know, you look when you're when you're over the target generally asking I I don't yeah, of course I do Of course I do Of course I do you I mean, but there's reasons for that and we'll get into that in a moment but I think that what i'm saying is is that I was a protective parent. I didn't do anything wrong with my kids And they raked me over the coals. I have like five or six volumes at the trial court level Folders huge folders of documentation Showing how they just completely wrecked me Yeah, and again, I didn't know what I was doing. I couldn't get anybody to defend me and everybody in the system was corrupt and so Part of walking away is I and I even tell men I said look when you get divorced leave the fucking state If you don't have custody of your kids Get out of the jurisdiction get out of the state and in 2021 That is more important today than it was when I got divorced the first time in 1993 Or when I got divorced the second time, you know, 2014 to 2016 so You have to understand that the idea of the of the migthaw philosophy As I see it and as I perceive it and as I understand it This isn't anything that's new it's been going on for 15 20 years and there's been a lot of really intelligent insightful witty and Worldly experienced men Having these conversations. This isn't just something that like blue collar america figured out These are conversations that were happening globally on forums and things like that and backward google hangouts was a thing There were hangouts about this stuff before many of these content creators that we know about now Ever even existed and I know this because I've done the history now with that said My idea my conception my my perception Of the migthaw philosophy and it's not an ideology. It is a philosophy Because these are choices men make and the philosophy as I understand it consists of three prongs Now with that said I want to make one caveat before I get started Okay, and this is going to be something that people are They're not really going to be happy about But the red pill truth is not to coddle your emotions, right? Nobody's going to hold your ball sack for you So one of the main criticisms of the migthaw philosophy that people make outside and including traditional conservatives puas dating coaches Regular conservatives within the manasphere Is it mid tower cowards that they run and they hide while society deteriorates that they've identified the problem But they refuse to be part of the solution And when it comes to modern migthaw voices These people are are absolutely over the target. They are right on point migthaw Too many of these modern voices Is it helps each man, but it doesn't help Men as a community and it doesn't help men from a multi-generational fashion Now the reason I bring this up is because the question then is If migthaw helps men individually and it helps men generally and it helps men in You know multiple generations of men Then what is it that migthaw does to do that because people aren't seeing it so to that said The reason that that perception exists and the reason it is accurate is twofold One it's misinformed people criticizing migthaw and two it's migthaw voices ignoring The roots of their philosophy and what I mean by that is is that there are a lot of migthaw voices out there Who advocate and this has been going on since about 2014 2015 who advocate men to avoid voting And avoid other forms of political participation either on a national scale or on a local scale Okay, they say no migthaw is an apolitical philosophy and and that's how it should be Well, hang on because even in the wider manuscripts such as the red pill They had that I have this apolitical stupidity and we've talked about it Well, and and and I want to address that right on the nose before we get into the philosophy Because I think that a lot of people well, they kind of had generic arguments about that The problem is is that no one until now to my knowledge with the exception of me You and a couple other people have ever really addressed this head on so think of think of The idea of being apolitical By using the following analogy, okay The migthaw and the manifestor voices Who advocate being apolitical? Are the same as cuckolds who advertise online for other men to sleep with their wives Now, why do I say that? It's because the only difference between these political cuckolds And literal cuckolds is these political cuckolds sit by and watch While commas and socialists bear back and spit roast our constitution Leaving it with potentially incurable ideological stds in an effort to kill it without ever interfering with the sole exception of maybe recording it on their phones Then like literal cuckolds They're forced to drink the socialist after flow of the communist policies designed to discriminate against men Now, why do I bring this up? Why am I sitting here? I mean, this sounds like I'm taking shots across the bow and the reality is I'm not that is an accurate description And if you don't believe me, look at our look at the united states political climate 2015 and then look at it today in 2021. Okay the the amount of Political participation is at an all-time low when it comes to men, especially self-reliant men And it isn't at all time high when it comes to socialists and communists and people who want to destroy our government In fact, it's so popular with them. Some of them are voting two three five times Other people are actually coming back from the dead and voting hence the reason we have the current white house but that said The originators of the migtau philosophy the ones who coined the term migtau the ones who created the manifesto They had a solution for this And the solution is this You promote limited government The government should only be as large as necessary to serve the people at governance and to protect the constitution Now the reason I bring that up is because socialism communism feminism and misandry cannot exist Without the financial and legal support of a bloated welfare state backed by corporate censorship and backed by corporate sponsors Which is really what the united states and many countries in the western world have devolved into So this is the challenge that a lot of people have is that This is a red pill a lot of people don't want to look at and again There are times where you can look at this and objectively go. Hey your vote doesn't count right So like if if you're in a deep blue state and you want to vote for a gop person odds are that might not work Does that mean you shouldn't do it? Does that mean you should give up? No, you can't and and somebody brings up the roman empire The reason the roman empire failed was because of imperial overstretch It had nothing to do with any kind of political trigonometry or trigonometry or whatever the fuck it is pardon me so my point is is that You know when you transfer from a from a supply and demand economy and you transfer into a financial economy And you start giving out massive levels of welfare plus you have imperial overstretch and you can't financially support these things That's what destroys empires. That's what destroyed the mayans. That's what destroyed the romans and today That is the basis of what we see happening in the united states We are sending money overseas to countries that don't pay us any tax revenue. They don't compensate us We're providing them and all for all intents and purposes. We're providing them with welfare And americans are being taxed without representation. These people are not Voting to support other people's countries. Okay now the reason I bring that up is because one of the three pillars of the original mig town manifesto was Limited government the second one was masculine men now there's a lot of conversation about You know alpha males versus beta males versus whatever and the reality is is that Most men in in western cultures had children a lot of men did a lot of men had families Especially prior to the rise of second wave feminism And there were many men who chose not to for a variety of reasons And so, you know supporting masculinity is extremely important because you know you want to support men who are not chivalrous You want to have men around you who demand respect within reason? You want men who are independent who are self-reliant? And you know the and and and by living those lifestyles These men become Role models for other men for the next generation So by keeping that limited government where it needs to be by rejecting the lie of socialism and feminism And the misandry that comes with it and then Combined with men that are Strong I think that's important because men who were who are internally strong I don't mean just like lifting weights and bro You know how much do you bench and how much do you deadlift and blah blah blah, right? I'm talking about You know internal emotional and psychological fortitude A lot of men don't have that today because they lack the multi-generational mentorship because of decades of misandry And institutionalized discrimination against men and then finally The the hang on before you go ahead move on to your next and final point I do want to make a point and I like doing this frequently because I really mean it I interviewed you for my first time. I think ever it was either the first or second time we ever talked way back in like uh late 2018 early 2019 It was an interview just about the extended family in america the fall of it And you're the first guy I've ever seen in the hemisphere never mind the rest of culture Focus on the collapse of the extended family on fox news and all this rino craft stuff You know, you hear about family values and the nuclear family and all this stuff Not enough by the way, but you hear a little bit at least and I think but mostly it's kind of like smoke and hot air And with a little bit of truth to a little bit of Passion to a little bit of intensity not enough But you focused on the fall the extended family and that was like damn that is a simple insight but a powerful one that People just haven't taken the time to sit down and think about and I'm like that's exactly fucking right You know when I know that my parents are growing up They had a much closer contact with their great uncles their uncles their aunts their grandparents And I had some growing up. I think not enough and I should have had more And I think kids today like gen z and shit. They're gonna have way less You know for whatever a myriad of reasons call me too Well, and and and what makes things even more difficult when you talk about multi-generational mentorship in the extended family The younger generations have been taught and they keep reinforcing this most idea that they need to hate the older generations Yeah, it's dumb. It's very dumb. I mean there is some Some of it I can understand like the boomers for example or an easy target But even then you can't hit all of them and you can't hate boomers all the time Like they're americans like us and they went through a lot of shit or the parents didn't have passed off them Well, I also want to mention though my sister's in the hospital my sister's in the hospital right now And I'll be having a third nephew. I think by the end of the day So I'm pretty excited uncle. I throw hashtag uncle life. There you go You know, I think that the other side of it is though is that people don't really understand what boomers Went through to get where they were. I mean none of this was handed to them, right? And yeah, they lived in a different society But they lived in a society that didn't where in the eliciting the united states We didn't have the welfare state back when they were you know of breeding age, right? That welfare state didn't exist family values still exist All these things existed the world has changed and and now Does that mean that everything they say is ignorant? No, but I think that when you talk about this idea of Ignoring the wisdom of older people the reality is that The only thing that has changed Between 2021 and let's say 1921 is the technology I mean, there's there's been very few advances in the field of psychology. There's been I mean legitimate advances, okay? I'm not talking about social justice propaganda masquerades of science, right? I'm talking about actual psychology And and I'm not talking about Science viewed through the communist lens or math viewed through the communist lens. That's not what I'm discussing But that said that multi-generational mentorship is extremely important And the problem that we have is that when you talk about a lot of the experts many people Who you know have phd's or scientists their social scientists? um They allowed feminists to frame the conversation And feminists frame the conversation as opposed to you know the individual woman Versus the nuclear family and the other side went feminist Feminists took over almost everything in culture over the past hundred years not just psychology and science and this and that I mean it's infected fucking everything Right, but when the first governments, I mean the internet holy fuck. It's everywhere Right, but when the first when the first anti feminists in and mra's which by the way are two separate groups When they first opposed feminism, they made the mistake of allowing feminists to frame the argument And by allowing the game you mean, right? Yeah, they set the rules of the game They set the rules of engagement and everybody knows that when you walk into war you walk into win You're not you're not fighting by the you know the the way they call the queensberry rules or whatever They are boxing, right? And that's the thing that people don't understand about family court when you walk in a family court You're not fighting for your divorce You're fighting for your life. You're fighting for the lives of your children. It is full spectrum warfare They will have you arrested if they can they will have your job destroyed. They will destroy your reputation They will violate your second amendment, right for you to bear arms under false allegations and pretenses without ever being convicted of a crime I might add And what a lot of people don't realize is that the red flag laws that are sweeping the nation today Were based on domestic violence civil domestic violence restraining orders that were created in the 1980s by a woman named ellen pence and two of her cronies And they admitted that they they basically Created that whole body of scientific work based on fraud. They admitted it in 2000 in a in a textbook So a bunch of a bunch of nasty women, huh? Well, yeah and and and that brings me to the third pillar So the third pillar is to support feminine women And so that's why a lot of migtown men well anybody really in this day and age Who identifies as a migtown man? This is why they don't get married They don't get married because they don't want to the easiest way to avoid divorce is to avoid marriage and You know, they think that in order for a woman to be feminine She has to be nurturing. She has to be supportive. She has to be respectful honest She has to be not only responsible, but she has to be willing to take accountability for her mistakes These are all traits that modern women don't have And it's not that they don't have because like, you know, they were born with a vagina So they're automatically irresponsible. That's not what i'm saying I'm saying this goes back to what my previous statement about how women have been indoctrinated to be this way as well as men And so you have all these women who were like, I can do it all, you know, I'm going to go freeze my eggs And I'm going to work for another 10 years and then I'm going to get in vitro fertilized and go from there Well, how's that working out? Number one, you're you're more likely to have a child with an extra chromosome It's like it goes up to one in 32 Number two, a lot of these women that go through this situation The the the eggs die You know, the eggs they get frozen and you know, they unthought or they thaw them They're dead and then they try to impregnate the women. There were a couple cases where they've tried to impregnate the women and these um The eggs don't fertilize and then where the eggs do fertilize They most often ended miscarriage. So I think that you know, the challenge here is that You know, the idea here is is that modern women just aren't worth it And and even if they were worth it on an individual basis The laws are so misandrous that you know, you're basically gambling against the house and it's a rigged game And the house always wins. So you have this scenario where you know, the idea of mig Tao is this It's not anti it's not anti-feminist in the way that a lot of people think it is. Okay the mig Tao Doesn't fight feminism That's a men's rights activism. That's an ideological thing What mig Tao does and the creation of mig Tao and the the main thrust of mig Tao On a on a practical in a practical sense is that it gets out of the way of feminism, right? Because mig Tao men know that by ghosting and getting out of the way All feminists can do at that point is talk to themselves They're like feminine thinkers, right? And eventually they all devolve into circular firing squads and they become self-cleaning ovens and we're seeing this now with the schisms between Caucasian feminists and feminists of color and Turfs versus trans and all these different little sub tribes as everybody vies for power because that's the reality feminism is a case of uh, let's give an example look at the case of What's the author harry potter? The famous woman jk. Yeah jk relin's yeah Yeah, I mean she was a pretty hardcore feminist as I understand it But then she went against the trans stuff because that was she saw that rightly so is an attack on the rights of women And they're you know their status in society or whatever And she got fucking, you know, basically excommunicated. It was a huge shit show. What was that last year? Maybe six to 12 months ago Yeah, it's like no one that woman's you know, mega billionaire or whatever and she's even she's not, you know Safe as a hardcore feminist Well, again, you have to understand that this is just another demonstration Of the feminist lie, right? It's not about protecting women It's not about protecting these situations It's like tucker carlson was on was on television last night And he went through this whole scenario of of these trans individuals being transferred to women's prisons And then assaulting the women while they're there, you know, so But let's let's address a viewer comment right here. I think we could both have some insight on this Our own 1983 says sounds like pua dating roaches eating their own daily same phenomena False in my opinion false and my judgment bullshit because we are cleaning house in the manusphere We're cleaning it of frauds, which is a healthy and productive activity to do Like explaining right and right the feminists are eating each other. That's well, well, let's let's let's let's take a step back You know rm whoever that person is um So while it's not the case with anthony's situation um It is the case with many people in the pua community because they're trying to you know Pseudo-intellectually out alpha each other because they want to try to you know They want to try to quote unquote protect their brand and and they're threatened by anybody else who has you know A voice or is considered credible inside Any kind of you know, manusphere dating coach type you mean has a pair of balls basically Yeah, yeah, you know functioning functioning functioning parables. Yeah, and so I think that that's Yeah, there's a lot of dating coaches out there that are eating their own lately and those types of things I don't think that the Um, you know the issue about combing out frauds and things like that. I don't think that qualifies as the same thing That's like saying look if you have a philosophical difference with somebody or you have a values difference with somebody That you have to be able to um You know Have it turn into some sort of you know be for anything like that And I think that people can have differences of opinion and I think that You know my my so we're clear. I'm not a leader in the migthaw community I'm just a voice that people listen to I'm one of many But I think that this idea I think you're a leader. I think you're the best So it's my opinion and I appreciate that but what I'm saying is is that you know There are a lot of people who disagree with with with my perspective as well You have a bunch of people for example that are on social security They're living off of other people They're they're they don't have jobs by choice not because they can't get hired And those aren't self-reliant men when I say you're a leader by the way I mean you lead by example and you lead intellectually which is what really matters You know, you're not on marching the streets with the dick hat on and I don't fucking care And I don't think you need to do that. No, and I don't think I don't yeah And I don't think that anybody needs to do that either, but I guess what I'm saying is is that Um, you know, if you're not a self-reliant man And you call yourself You know a man going his own way Maybe you need to consider trying to become more self-reliant, you know Find things that you can do, you know, if you've you know, I mean look you go into small town america And and small town america is swarmed With people who were disabled people who have Life-altering disabilities and you know what almost every one of them have They have a job They go to work, you know, despite their disabilities despite their their genetic failings or whatever their set of circumstances are They have a job And many of these people end up buying houses. They end up buying cars. They become financially self-sufficient so this idea that that I need to withdraw from society or I need to not you know participate in society is a self-reliant man because I can't get laid look You got it backwards And and the idea is is that you know, if if you're one of those people who's not mig-tau You're just in the manna sphere You're here to try to get some wisdom and that kind of thing And you don't want to be mig-tau great more power to you But I can tell you this right now if you go get a job if you shower every day if you groom every day If you exercise every day there will be a woman out there for you now if you look like quasi moto odds are You're not getting a supermodel, right? And so you'll get somebody but you're not getting a supermodel And and you know, that's one of the reasons why I did this video about 80 20. It's because you see these guys Same if you look like quasi moto, you get like an old fat woman like the red pill dating coaches Potentially. Yeah. Yeah, you might listen and the woman you get might actually be dating them at the time She's banging you and they just don't know it. So All I'm saying is is that you know when you're when you're talking about this, you know, that's another issue Now the other thing I want to bring up is that um, you know, there are people in the manna sphere Who mistakenly think that the problems that men have had Started with the 19th amendment. It started by the passage of women's rights And and I want to put that to bed once and for all Using verifiable facts and observable reality And in order to do that, I want to talk about e-bell for it backs e-bell for it backs Was a guy who died in the late 1920s and he was living in like the late 1800s and he was a solicitor In the united kingdom He was also a prominent anti-feminist and he was a prominent men's rights advocate and again He was an attorney. He was a highly experienced litigation attorney and he wrote books about How feminism was infecting england and and more importantly even back then He had his thumb to the pulse of feminism and was talking about how feminism was impacting the united states at the same time and one of the things he's talked about is a lot of the same things that I talk about in that even in family court back then women had more rights than men and a gynocentrism was was Basically, there weren't there were no substantive rights that women didn't have that men did and what I mean by that is is that Did women have the right to vote no But they weren't prevented from it There were many stories and things even I even talk about the in the feminist lie There were situations where if if you were a landowner male or female you got the right to vote You know that was typically the law in a lot of places There was other issues in america too where women got the right to vote if they submitted to military draft or something Yeah, and and feminists voted that down Yeah, and and and that brings me to my next point which I think is me or feminist the biggest con artist in america uh I wouldn't say the biggest but I would say they're the most successful They're they're right up there with communism and socialism. Absolutely. Um, yeah, but but I would say that they What people don't understand is is that you know, I don't advocate and I don't think it's practical to say Let's take women's rights away or let's do this how the jihadis do it and I've said this before because here's your problem If you go out and you say I want to help men And my goal is to help as many men as I can and I want to help multiple generations of men Then why would you put men in an unnecessary conflict to take women's rights away? If really what you're doing is walking away from women It just seems like a uh like it's counterintuitive to the migthal philosophy And and thoughts on this too. Um, when you're when you're up, yeah, just let me kind of finish my thought before I lose it because I'm getting old So my point is is that It's not it to me. It's not and it's never been about women's rights Okay, I don't give a shit if women have equal rights to men. That's fine. And here's why I want equal consequences Okay, if a man gets drunk and gets behind the wheel of a car and he hits somebody He's held accountable If a woman gets drunk and has a sex with a man and she consents That man is now a rapist That that so so how are you going to hold men accountable for being intoxicated? But you're going to tell women that when they get intoxicated, it's not their fault Well, if me and you get shit-faced and we fuck some some women, right? They're not held liable for rape That's this is fucking delusional like how did I how did I consent to this woman jumping on my dick if I'm shit-faced? Well Right and and thomas pollock in the chat. Yeah, the legal subjection of men That's that's one of them. And there's another book that he wrote in 1913 I forget the name of it right now, but I'm in the process of reading it now with that said The reason I sound young by the way is because my testosterone is at a healthy level And I don't have to shoot myself in the ass with testosterone. Anthony's met me. He knows but that said You know, I think that If you if women have equal consequences to men that changes that changes the playing field. So for example If a if a man murders his wife They throw the book at him. It's you know, it's domestic violence. It's intentional homicide. It's whatever they can throw at him, right? But if a woman kills and murders her husband The first thing that comes out of mainstream's mouth the first thing comes out of the court's mouth is What did the husband do to deserve it? Right, it's not let's hold this murderer accountable. It's not let's put this person on trial for first-degree murder It's what did that woman do to deserve it? Here's another example and this comes from my book It's the domestic violence chapter in my book the feminist lie. There was a there was a woman's rights advocate She was a dv advocate In I want to say federal way Washington and this was probably back in the late 90s early 2000s And she had a history of violence. She went out to a bar in south Seattle She walked outside one night this guy and she was smoking in front of the bar This guy walked outside asked her for to light a cigarette. She pulled out a gun and tried to shoot him It was a revolver. She emptied the entire revolver. She only hit him once because the guy kind of dodged around a little bit I don't know if it was like a matrix thing or not The cops never charged her because she said she was defending herself from sexual assault And this was back before cameras and everything else So they they you know, this guy's walking around with a bullet in him and she gets to walk free You fast forward and again, this woman has a history of violence. She's a complete Maniac with anger management problems everybody that around her admits this when the trial comes out, right? Yet. She's the head of this domestic violence Uh branch or office or whatever and one of the ladies she's trying to help They're doing a custody transfer And the father shows up the father has a sister in the car They drive to the custody transfer mom is there and this maniac is sitting in the car with her They transfer custody. They try to instigate a fight with the father. The father's got a witness there He's trying to cover his own ass. They get the kids they get in the car and they drive away The mom and the psycho Follow him Okay, they follow him he gets to his house. He said he tells the uh, um, he tells it pardon me Just getting a drink there. Um, he tells the sister take the kids into the house So the kid they grab one of the kids Bring the kid in the house The maniac gets out of the car rushes up to the driver's seat Plugs this guy twice in the chest with a gun the guy falls to the ground that she stands over him and she murders him And then she calls the police and tries to say it's self-fucking defense Okay, now there were witnesses to the shooting. Thank god Or else they would have gone with what she said because of who she is Okay, so they were going to charge her with first degree murder and they were going to throw the book at her But thanks to all the feminist advocacy in the state of washington at the time They dropped it from first to second degree and then they only gave her like 10 years prison Even though she was absolutely 100 guilty, but here's the thing that really that really is is something that it was missed by everybody What did they do to mom Mom was an accomplice Mom is the one who drove her there. Mom is the one who made up the story that that sick this rabid dog On this father in the first place Mom never got charged. Mom never got arrested. Mom was never investigated at all So you have to understand um, you know, this is a serious serious issue And it's something that people don't really talk about if women had the same consequences as men Both in violence in court at work and all these scenarios Then there it is, you know, if you sit here and you spray paint your clothes on and you go to work And you expect not to be cat called Well, that's just not reasonable You know, unless you're built like the backside of a bus or you're a tugboat, right? But i'm just saying that like this is this is you have to have equal consequences When they've done studies when women get convicted of crimes They serve their sentences are 40 to 60 less than men So, you know, we have to be able if if if we're really going to talk about equality Then we have to be pointing out the lies and that's what that's what migtau does It points out the lies not to fight feminism but to teach men how to avoid it how to avoid You know stepping into the bear trap that's going to to potentially lock these guys there make them starve to death and die So my uh a follow-up point on that I wanted you're mentioning a lot of what you're talking about There's just basically women receiving equal consequences, which are 100 dead, right? They don't And you've cited now a couple examples of where that happens in culture and stuff My point is harking back to what we the initial uh question popped up about this And you're looking in the chat too like me a lot of discussion about 19th amendment take a moment's rights away blah blah blah So like you uh number one. I don't support that. I don't think it's politically feasible Like ever I think the country would much sooner collapse in a major catastrophic way You know like rome style stuff before we we remove the 19th amendment, which is no fucking chance I don't see that happening with dedicated effort for 100 years straight. It's not going to happen So I don't even know why guys advocate for this stuff. It's it's the well I think that they they they advocate it they advocate it because you know, they know that this is what their audience wants to hear It's like fan service, right? They're pandering pandering, right? But but but the problem is is that you know when when you make a black and white statement like that That statement has to be well versed in fact And a lot of people believe especially the misinformed believe that the issue of feminism First came to be a problem when the 19th amendment was passed and I'm telling you that's not the case Not even close. No. No, it was it was an issue Since mill wrote his his little thing was called the subjection of women in 1868 It was an issue when the Seneca papers were published in the 1800s I believe just a little while before that right around the time the communist manifesto was was published Then go Seneca Falls is 1848. I think and even the reason you had feminism going before that in the early 19th century Correct. So so and the problem is is that the more educated voices in the midtown community they actually admit this so Feminism was an issue and feminist laws started getting passed in the middle 1800s, you know, 1860 1870 1880 1890 1900 All of these things, you know, if again simple math dictates and again This is for those people who have opposable thumbs and you're not rocking an extra chromosome They all happen prior to the 19th amendment passing So it's it's it's it's the 19th amendment I think my only problem with the 19th amendment isn't that women got voting rights It was that they had none of the consequences and none of the duties required to And keep those voting rights. Okay, and here's what I mean by that If a man at 18 years old doesn't register for the first selective service the draft Okay, he can't vote He can't hold a federal job and he can't get federal financial aid for school If a woman chooses not to register for the draft, hang on It's actually worse. He can go to jail for that shit and face $250,000 in fines. I don't think it's ever happened But that's he can if he gets called up. Yeah Yeah, it's serious But it can be yeah, it could be real serious But but the point is is that women don't have those same consequences Yep They don't have the same consequences and so it's a question of consequence now Are women ever going to suffer the same consequences as men per se? Honestly, I don't think they necessarily have to but let me tell you this If you want The same jobs as men if you want to be a CEO of a company if you want to be a leader or you want to be An elected official for example Then you need to show that you've earned it Right, you know, like so in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s people were like, well, you know There aren't enough women CEOs or not enough women board members and this and this and that Well, guess what? Back then we actually our our economy functioned on merit. That's what we functioned on it wasn't, you know A reach around program. It was merit. And so the point here is is that many of these men were They had worked in that industry for 25 freaking years Okay, they had earned their right. They had worked their way up the ladder They became industry experts in whatever company or whatever industry that company that they set on the board was They didn't just bring, you know, joe schmo off the street like hunter biden and go, oh, well, you're a crackhead Yeah, have a board seat. You'll be great, right? That wasn't what it was, you know, and don't get me wrong I'm not saying that crackhead shouldn't sit on boards But I think if you're a crackhead and you sit on a board It should probably be a feminist organization because I guarantee you you're probably more clear thinking than most feminists that are out there Yep, let me hit on this comment. So this is the guy who's been talking about the 19th amendment a lot I want to dig into it. It's not just him, right? This is a he's representing a segment of the manuscript that thinks this way in the mctowel even But even beyond mctowel, I think it's beyond it's also in the reptile sometimes Sure. So you're hitting the nail on the head men earlier and even more recently here in the conversation It's not that women have the ability to vote today that is the issue It's number one the uneven completely unequal uneven consequences They come with uh unequal responsibilities, right? I said in my speech in 2018 I think at the 21th convention the future is still masculine That the 19th amendment actually represented the death of equality in america The death of equality between rights and responsibilities And consequences are part of that equation too because when when you have the rights and an associated responsibilities The outcome of that is associated consequences with that, right? Like getting you know drafted into world war one or world war two Getting your well Yeah, and let's take a step back here and let's define our terms so that so that we don't confuse anybody in the back I believe in equality in the same way that martin luther king did and what that means is you equal the playing field May the best man or woman win Okay equality of opportunity is what I believe in I don't believe in equality of outcome And the reason I go it's it's communism. It's socialism, but most importantly It's fraud you destroy merit when you reward the idiots Yep Well, I'm going to finish my point here now on this because number one. I agree with you number two I think I'm going to take this somewhere. You're really going to enjoy So, you know these guys They're making a point about woman voting and I want to make it clear that in some way actually limited way I agree with them Women voting has consequences Especially when they don't have the associated responsibilities consequences for voting, right that come with that So this is creating an uneven outcome that is really fucking up all culture. I think in society and government stuff My point is they're not really upset about woman having the right to vote. They're they're upset Justifiably in some ways about the outcome of women voting Which even if there was associated consequences for them, I don't think that would be perfect I think woman getting the right to vote was done in the worst way possible And that means like for example them not being drafted and the associated associated responsibilities Number two, though, even if those existed, which they don't right Even I think recently there's a federal court that decided finally that maybe women are going to be subject to the selective service or something But that's what we're gonna fucking happen, right? If if there is world war three, they're gonna get fucking They're gonna all cry, you know, get pregnant or whatever and cry whatever the fucking excuse to get out of it Well, what they're gonna do is is is while their male counterparts are getting murdered They're gonna have sex with the the invaders. Yep, then you get out. Yeah, they go But here's my point though It it's not woman voting that is the issue It's that woman voting has consequences and a lot of unintended consequences Or ones that were not even fucking considered for two seconds when the shit was being decided a hundred years ago, right? So what we have to do is we have to find this is why advocating for women's rights the 19th amendment being removed is stupid It can't be done and it's counterproductive makes you click a fucking asshole and ultimately you miss the point It's a woman voting in culture in a way that is destructive and has consequences that are legitimately negative for cultural overall, right We need to address that in a way that makes sense that respects individual rights And that's what these fucks are too lazy I think these mixtape dudes who are like obsessed with women's rights That is bitch and bitch and pander pander about you know 19th amendment 19th amendment No, you have to find a way to solve the issue rather than wish for the impossible which I don't think is good Anyway, I don't think it's good to Dictate who votes and who doesn't based on the way you're born this to me. I don't like it's that's fucked dude black white Asian male female tall short. I don't give a fuck Like you need to be born as an American and your ability to vote should be Should be available to you in some way at some point universally, right? And that doesn't even you know universal suffrage I don't actually support that what I'm saying is we can solve this two things like for example Limiting voting to taxpayers even in tax filers. I'd be okay with even well. Well, hold on. Hold on. Let's let's let's let's actually clarify our terms Okay, first and foremost Let's let's tie in what you've said to the current situation. All right So The president has said That no amendment is is is permanent or written in stone I can tell you exactly what I'm going to do because I'm an asshole if they decide that they want to hold a A constitutional convention and they want to repeal like the first or second amendment I'm going to ask them to repeal the 19th Yeah, I'm going to say look you open the door, bro. You know no under normal circumstances That would be the most absurd thing to do But I think you say yeah, let's repeal the 19th amendment too I would absolutely be down for that like I would carry a sign for that and the reason I would do it Is because I think that people need to understand there's natural consequences, right? And I guarantee you you would see all these white nationalists come out going we need to repeal the 13th amendment, right? The slavery. Okay. I mean again, you know, you would watch this saying go full retard so fast that it would be worse than an adult swim Okay, and I mean But the entertainment value would be massive now with that said I have to disagree with you on one point Well, hang on. I'm gonna I've been finished on point. Let me go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead again It's the out. It's not even we say consequences. Let me be more specific It's the outcome of woman voting In the situation that's factual it's existed for a little bit over a hundred years now Where they don't have equal responsibilities and consequences, right? So the outcome of that is negative and it's fucking up culture, right? It's fucking up voting demographic It's fucking up. Why do you think we have so much national debt? National debt is fucking skyrocketed in America since women got the ability to politically influence Directly the government through voting, which is what that is voting is forced, right? You're voting for lawmakers and law enforcement officers with guns to physically forcefully do things different to other americans around you Women have a hand in that now through voting That they can't follow through with because they're not being they're not at risk of getting drafted and shit like that, right? My point is uh, we need to solve this in a way that outside of the constitutional convention and all this, you know 19th amendment No, fuck all this shit If you limited for example voting to only net tax payers or even people who file fucking taxes You would massively shrink the voting base For example, who's actually going to vote and you would shift it in the direction of men naturally And if women want to then make it equal it out to 5050 then get in the fucking workforce Or whatever and file your fucking taxes or get married and file jointly And if you don't do that, you're some single cat lady and on only fans You know hashtag thought audit not filing your fucking taxes and you don't get the ability to vote It's that fucking simple So I think that would actually solve the all these mixtape dudes that are obsessed to the to the We're only talking about here as a segment. They're just like they talk about every fucking day, right? They bitch, bitch, bitch It's dumb. It'll never be done and a real solution would be just as an example I'm not even saying this is the BLM doll Limit voting to fucking tax payers only or tax filers. Even if you make one fucking dollar or lose money I don't care. Did you file your fucking taxes last year or not? Okay, you did then vote you didn't then no fucking vote and all these thoughts that don't file their taxes They wouldn't have the ability to vote then anymore, right? This would solve that So I think that would solve a lot of issues. Well, it's it's simple. It's not even that I think that tax filers is probably casting the net too wide So the you know a long time ago a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago When I was on the tfm show and this is kind of first brought my attention to it Because we had a lot of conversations about it tfm's original position was If you're in the military You can vote for president because you're it's your commander in chief, right? That's good. If you're not in the military and you're a net taxpayer or a property owner Then you could vote for congress or the legislature I think that and and of course if you're either one of those things you can vote for the judiciary for those Judiciary positions that are up for the vote now. This sounds pretty reasonable and pretty legit like this is what I was after with this kind of stuff Yeah, yeah, and I mean and that was that was his original position. I don't know if it's changed or modified since then Coming from that retard. I'm kind of surprised You know tfm's pretty smart on a lot of things no disrespect to you or anything like that He's really smart on a lot of things but again, I think that when you talk about this Basically what we're saying is at the end of the day if you don't have skin in the game If you're not financially invested or you're not, uh, you know blood sweat and tears invested in your communities in your government in your um You know and you're a non-tax net taxpayer Then then yeah, you shouldn't vote because here's the thing right? Let's say you have a town of 50,000 people Okay, and of those 50,000 people. Let's just say everyone for purposes of conversation Every one of those people is a is 18 and older and they're all registered to vote legally, right? They got voter ID the whole thing And of that 50,000 let's say 13,000 of those people are homeowners and then A third of those people whoever's left or half of whatever's left is a They rent right and then the the the last third They're all in welfare Okay, so the people who rent compared to the people who own it might have differences in opinion And the people who are homeowners across the united states traditionally will vote for more conservative positions America first You know constitutional rights law and order those types of things The people who rent often will go go either way, right? So you have some that are conservative some that aren't and so they vote a little you know differently The problem that you have is that all the people on welfare are going to vote for welfare They're not going they're not paying property taxes. They're not supporting the local school district They're not supporting any of these things um, you know in any kind of real way they're basically they're they're Parasites on the system And I don't know and again, I'm not saying everyone, you know, there are people out there who are They're veterans and they've got disabilities because they served in war or maybe they were hit by a car Again, there's there's a lot of legitimate reasons people are disabled and they're living on the system, right? I'm not shaming all those people But what I'm saying is is that you know if you're on social security disability because you just happen to be a drug addict because it's tuesday, right? Or um, you know and not because you've gotten a car accident and you got addicted to doxycontin Thanks to you know purdu pharma. I'm saying, you know those other types of people um, the problem that you have is is that People on welfare are always going to vote for more welfare and people who are landowners are always going to Um, want to truly support their rights. And so that's why anybody in welfare should have Temporarily no ability to vote like that should be a trade-off. Well any kind of welfare no voting free until you're off of it Well, and I also think too that you know, they've done studies on this If you have a job you have higher self-esteem So that's that right there is a mitigating factor for like depression Bipolar many mental health, you know things plus all the mental health Uh situations that go with social isolation if you're sitting home all day and sitting on the computer because you can't get out You know because you don't have a job. I think that and that was one of the points I was trying to bring up early on was that look there's a lot of small towns in america They have a lot of disabled people in these towns and almost all these disabled people work And some of these people were you know, they're born with an extra chromosome or they've got these other You know burst defects they have that affect them for their entire life. I think If you can work you should work Now I don't think everybody, you know is fit to Sling a sludge hammer, right? But I think that you know, you should do a job or at least get some basic job skills so I think that when it goes toward where we are today The idea of I mean again unless biden calls a constitutional invention convention or somebody else decides to call a constitutional convention I don't think I yeah, I don't think that I don't think that we're going to see the 19th amendment on the table But I'll tell you what if they if they call a Hold on. Let me say too. Oh god. God if they call a constitutional convention for the memes I will absolutely Call for repealing the 19th amendment as as a massive troll because fuck them if they can't take a joke But that said we live in a feminist culture though if there was a real constitutional convention tomorrow I don't think it's off the table. They would remove men from being able to vote That's a fucking crazier culture is Like I wouldn't would you be that surprised if that happened? No, well the problem the problem you have the problem that you have is that voter fraud is so rampant that you can't trust it You know you I mean think about it for a second, right? Steven Crowder has about I don't know what four million followers on youtube, right? He did a live stream the other night during president biden's convention President biden was streamed across four or five channels and between all those channels. He probably had 50,000 people watching him live Steven Crowder had 76,000 people watching him. Okay So so you're telling me that this supposed president who's the most popular president in the history of the country Can't even get the view. Steven Crowder gets right That's my point So, you know when you have donald trump showing up and it's you know 10,000 people in a live event. It's made for five Even more, you know, right. Yeah, you know and people are are waiting a mile away You know, I mean you can't ignore the facts on the ground Now what it was their voter fraud Maybe the vote was definitely rigged and and here's the thing They admitted it. I think it was in news week. They admitted time magazine time magazine They admitted they said we had a cartel together and we did all these things to do that But what they did even though they admitted the crime They tried to act as though it was somehow okay Because committing misandry against a man and giving president trump the family court treatment was somehow justified Now, I'm not a big trump fan. I'm not a small trump fan But what I am is is every man who lives in a country should be you should support your country You should support your way of life in your culture, right? Irish people who were born in ireland should support irish culture and and and to that end Let's have another real quick hot take from ddj If you were born in the united states You're indigenous Anybody who was not born in the united states but enters in here illegally is a colonizer I want you to think about that the next time you hear some bigot politician Voice reading their script and they say Oh, you know, we need to protect the rights of indigenous people and and all these colonizers and and all this oppression Well, guess what? I agree. I agree. I was born in the united states. I am an indigenous american I am an indigenous american citizen. Anthony johnson is an indigenous american citizen Dude, i'm a third generation american, right? Okay, and and and we're sitting here having to get our rights subverted For these colonizers who come from other countries and our taxpayers are going to these people We're being taxed without representation because we never voted to financially support crime And illegal immigration is a crime. It's one of many So, you know, when we have these conversations, let's talk about the objective definitions Let's not play fuzzy definitions like what webster's been doing to satisfy the social justice warriors And then finally here's another hot take that has nothing to do with any of this The chauvin trial where they found him guilty People were concerned because the the jurors basically were given death threats if they found him innocent Well, guess what they did instead Now these jurors are basically crowdsourcing bribes for their guilty verdict How is that not reversible error? How is that not jury manipulation? These people are being their financial incentives To convict chauvin Well, plus emperor biden chairman biden. He was advocating publicly for them to convict. I am right Well, and yeah, and jury tampering is that yeah, and and the ideologically compromised FBI said well If they were going to let him go we were just going to arrest him. Anyway, they were going to basically do a julienne assange So, you know at the end of the day when we're talking about justice when we're talking about, you know, civil rights when we're talking about Being an indigenous people of this country I think that we really need to have these conversations from an objective standpoint Whether we're talking about the mana sphere and how feminism has been cancer well before the 19th amendment or about how It's a lot smarter to tell women look you want equal rights have equal responsibilities and have equal consequences Because if you can't do the duties that are required of this job Then go do the duties of the job that you can do and don't bitch about it when the pay is less because it's a different job description Okay, well, I think naturally that women struggle with taking responsibility and fatherhood a good father is key beyond key to Making them into mature adults like an accept responsibility as a mother and a wife, for example Or whatever else she chooses to do in life So it's like I'm sure you're gonna agree But it's like culture is stuck in this downward spiral with feminism rowing the boat a thousand miles an hour to make it go even faster So it's like how do we break that cycle before it just fucking crashes on our heads? Honestly, I'm gonna go anyway. Honestly, I I I don't think we do. I think that you know as You know, I think that it's important to support limited government And so I think that if you live in a place that has an over bloated welfare state Or you have a extremely out-of-balance gender-centric government And you know, you're in the minority because you're a self-reliant male And even more so if you're Caucasian leave Leave go to Go to a flyover state go to a small town in the state you're in Find some community that you can live in that you can reside in Where you can exercise your self-reliance and not be shamed for the privilege And there are many places now, especially because there's a I mean in response to this massive Socialist imbalance we're seeing across the united states There is a huge revival in evangelical christianity And I'm not talking about the the uh feminist infiltrated christian churches I'm actually talking about christian churches that follow the original bible And so in in those communities Those men are not shamed in the same ways as men are in men in even in suburban communities, right? and so You know, there are still operative. There are still places in the united states that is still america and Gino-centrism has existed for centuries, but there's always been a balance There's been kind of a a natural order a natural balance to things And and the laws have followed But I think that I mean look at the founding of the country. I don't think the 1770s 1780s 1790s I don't think they were gino-centric almost at all. They'd be not at all So certainly nowhere near what we see today or even over the past few years They were gino-centric because women had the babies, right? And so back then women were the prize But the difference was was women wait wait wait, I don't think that qualifies as gino-centric The gino-centric to me means, you know, what we're seeing today is a high level of it Everything I think that I'm in feminine bullshit. Yeah, let me step back and define my terms then I believe that what we're seeing today is gino-centrism that is out of balance But I think that if you take this from a survival of the species standpoint, which I'm doing for sake of conversation I think that you see that gino-centrism at some level has always been a facet of human society In that, you know, all these men competed for certain women All these men competed for the right to to breed with this woman or to have her family with her those types of things But the thing is is that once that woman chose the man that she wanted to be with That was the man she was with and she did the work I guess my disagreement comes from the fact that if Based on that, I don't think we can claim that the species is gino-centric and that it's always been that way That to me would defeat the purpose of labeling a current climate culture society Generation as gino-centric. It's like if the label has meaning and impact that has to be specific to a current time period And I don't doubt that chivalry and you know gino-centrism has been morphing over time and has been fluctuating We see it now to really spiking and it sucks right for culture and for men and for boys and fathers But I don't think we can say a hundred thousand years ago that the human species is gino-centric There was men and women in tribes and you know grok fucked the woman and then made babies I think yeah, I mean listen, I I know that there were tribes that were like that. I'm not saying that's not the case That's why I clarify the terminology and I say gino-centrism versus You know gino-centrism out of balance or unhealthy gino-centrism or you know Those types of things right? So that I guess that's what I'm saying. I mean we don't necessarily need to quibble about semantics I did want to hit If you've got a one head on someone asked about tfm earlier, let me get this tfm this fucking weirdo So this guy is saying the tfm classics are gold I don't doubt that that they were a lot better than what we see today ddj I used to work with them years ago And I know that there was a fallout and I've heard the you know You're side of the story and frankly, I think you're correct in the actions that you took corrective actions to You know heal the mctah community and make it a more positive place And for doing the right thing you get bitched at and screamed at and called judas and all this fucking Garbage that actually to me means you did the right thing That's a signal that an indicator that a bunch of ignorant idiots They don't know jack shit about what happens behind the scenes they bitch out you can do in the right thing It's like you've seen in movies and stuff a thousand times right someone does the right fucking thing and people the mob hates you for it But you have balls so you stood up and you went through with it My issue with tfm who by the way is a former guest of the show. He was on the red man group probably episode 30 25 to 35 somewhere in that range a long time ago The episode still up on rich groupers channel people go watch it My issue the tfm and people are talking about this in the chat to the dolls and shit He's like obsessed with the dolls blah blah blah So my issue I'm not even gonna get into the dolls too much other than the dude has married a doll and has a long-term relationship With the doll an inanimate object. This is really alarming from a psych perspective Like any therapist would be really really legitimately alarmed by this because it's a universal He has a completely unilateral unilateral power dynamic over an inanimate object This is something people do that are deeply disturbed and I think a long time ago He wasn't into that so much. It was much more hands-off much more distant kind of thing That he has an instagram for this doll and is obsessed with the doll and talks about the doll Like it's a real fucking thing has conversations with it This is sick twisted behavior and his signal. It's a signal that this guy's deeply disturbed and fucked up He needs mental help He needs professional therapy with a licensed clinical psychologist or therapist or psychotherapist or whatever the fuck anything This is dangerous and it's elliot rogers level behavior over a longer period of time So I think it's extremely alarming. I think that's an objective observation we can make I think that's controversial and I think any psychologist feminist or even anti-feminist like we would see in the Manifphere for example guys who are much more legitimate Much more assertive and aggressive in a culture that hates men and fathers and stuff Guys like shawnt smith can incur in these things I think if you ask them they would be very very alarmed by this and shawnt smith for example was on that show tfm I'm not going to get into his opinions on it that he shared privately you guys can go ask him He's free to comment on that as a public figure, but I can tell you fly out This is not fucking a difficult conversation or controversial thing if you marry a doll And this isn't like some fucking joke you did for a day on twitter Like this is really really bizarre behavior. It's dangerous. It's someone who's fucked up on the head I have no no bones about it. I don't take any of that back. The guys are fucking whack at a whack job 100 And ran All right. Well, let me kind of share my views um While I did watch a lot of content before I ever went on tfm show I always came back to him um tfm is very articulate He's thought about this stuff a lot And while I disagree with some of his conclusions You can't really fault the man for taking the time and thinking about the things and the way he has Now my disagreements with him. I'm not going to rehash them here Um, they're not disagreements with him as a man um I considered tfm my friend for a long time and You know, we had a falling out. It is what it is. I moved on but I think that um You know tfm. I believe Still wants to help men. I think he's still trying to help men, but I think that um You know one of the valid points that he originally made and I think he needs he deserves to be credited with this Is that and this was a conversation actually it was a series of conversations He and I had behind the scenes, but it was also a series of conversations. We had while live streaming So like I'm not doxing a private conversation per se It tfm made a really valid point in that We don't shame women for sex toys We we we consider these women who have sex toys Let me be clear. I'm not shaming them for this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no Yeah, yeah, yeah, just just hear me out. Yeah, hear me out. I I know where your your defensiveness is coming from but let me finish so We don't shame women for having sex toys for for objectifying man to the point of of a phallus Right because that's really what a sex toy is is these women are objectifying men and they want to have this double standard now So in response tfm is trying to say look if you're a man and you want a sex toy That's okay too. Now. I think you bring up some valid points in that if you do things So often that they become an obsession and it doesn't matter what those things are right You know if you are in a job and you go and you have a couple beers after work And that's just kind of your thing you have a couple beers with your buddies That's fine, but then if you start becoming an alcoholic now You're not doing things in moderation anymore and you've taken it to the next level or let's say You know, all of a sudden you're going to decorate your truck in Budweiser gear, right? Right and now you're driving the Budweiser truck because you like beer so much um You know, I think that those types of things become out of balance and I think that the challenge here becomes you know Where do where do you? Where do you helpfully implement something in your life? Compared to where do you take it so far? That it becomes an obsession Or it becomes psychologically unhealthy for me the the answer is simple. It's a relationship. Absolutely. No, no, no I I understand that but I guess what I'm trying to say is I think that's what people need to think about because you know, well I've already stated my views in previous videos and you've stated your view here. I think really the takeaway is this is it That's a symptom You know, if you do anything too much, it's going to become an obsession and it's going to become psychologically unhealthy You know, and you I mean you see this all the time with people. In fact, you could even Go to the gym and over train. In fact, there's many cases where the United States military You know military people will over train And then what ends up happening is is they get injured as a result because they've trained too much So I think that when it comes to those types of things, you know, I think that his goal initially was trying to You know, basically say look if you're going to stigmatize men for sex toys You need to you need to stigmatize women as well and and we don't do that now where it went from there you know I don't I don't agree with where things have gone from there when it came to Celestina because again, um You know, you can't You can't walk away from women And say or or shame men who date women If you're going to date a facsimile of a woman or you're going to marry a facsimile of a woman It's no different and and so we're clear. There are a lot of mctow guys out there who date women They have sex with women. They just don't cohabitate or get married or put themselves in a situation Where they believe they're going to be taken advantage of now obviously for every man The the anti fragility factor or the or the risk factor is something that each man chooses to weigh There are men out there that are monks and they're great guys. There are men out there who They date women. They're great guys. So, you know for me I think that that, you know, again looking at the political element and and and my belief or my Discipleship, I guess of the mctow philosophy Is based on the manifesto because to me that makes the most sense from somebody with 25 years of legal experience from somebody who You know was involved in politics for a period of time For somebody who did a lot of research on this somebody who wrote a book on these issues, you know To me the the manifesto makes a lot of sense. It may not make a lot of sense For a lot of people, but again, you know men can choose What they're going to do your books dancing now. I see that But I but I think that again, it's it's one of those scenarios that You choose your own way and you hope for the best But if you're living in a healthy lifestyle, if you're not a self-reliant man If you're not trying to make your life better or challenge yourself to be a better you Doesn't matter if you're a better me. It doesn't matter if you're a better, you know, anthony johnson What matters is is anybody listening to this? It's about you being better based on where you were yesterday Where you were a week ago where you were a month ago Don't don't compare yourself to anybody else because as long as you were living your life And you are self-reliant or you're moving towards self-reliance and and you're happy with that Do you just don't get caught up in the in in in the psychological Damage or the or the physiological damage of any kind of addiction whether it's sex addiction Or alcohol addiction or drug addiction and and make sure that you live in an environment That is psychologically healthy that is a psychological sanctuary as opposed to a high stress environment and and I think that When you live out of balance, you're more likely to get obsessed And when I mean by out of balance, you got to have you know, you've got to have some financial stability Potentially be financially independent. You've got to have social connections of some kind unless you're a schizoid No disrespect to schizoid, but they can live alone and that's fine You've got to have Your your intellectual needs met so in other words, you know, you can't be starving intellectually And then finally you have to have your spiritual needs met and and what I mean by that is is that There are a lot of atheists out there in the world and they believe a lot of things And there are a lot of christians and muslims and everybody else in the world who get their spiritual needs from that The thing that we're seeing today with a lot of atheists on the left Especially feminists and communists and socialists is that they've turned those political ideologies into religions And they've become like, you know, the socialist inquisitions so to speak Government has got to them for sure. Yeah, absolutely. So so understand that these are kind of the natural order of things So even if you're an atheist, don't don't don't start worshiping something that's going to destroy your life Sure, I agree and government is particularly dangerous like fire to worship. So it's stupid I do want to pause here and kind of clarify because I know that someone's going to clip this like tfm Or somebody to criticize it and attack it and they're going to take my prior comments out of context What they're going to do is sort of straw man What I said to say that I'm shaming men for the dolls and sex toys and all this bullshit And therefore it's a double standard because we don't uh criticize women for using dildos and vibrators and whatever, right? That is specifically and exactly and diametrically the opposite of what I'm saying, right? That is not what I'm saying at all. I do not give a fuck like this guy's talking about He's like, oh, you can't get a sneeze from the doll. The doll can't take you from on all these blah blah blah He's talking dolls up basically, right? That's strange on its own to mainstream culture. I'm not even gonna that's obvious I don't care. I don't give a fuck about you and your doll or whatever the toy, right? That doesn't matter to me What matters is the relationship that dude has which is pathological with a doll With an inanimate object he has a in his head It's like a real relationship and my from what I can observe and when I can tell as a third party like an observer And that is deeply deeply fucking bizarre and it's dangerous and it's it's twisted It's I called him in the show here earlier in the chat. I called him a school shooter with the youtube channel I mean that I'm not I'm not fucking around If you follow db tfm a long time ago like when you were hanging out with him dj I don't have a problem with that I don't doubt that's like someone was saying some of the shows were good and stuff you were on it So this would in my mind give a lot of credibility to that What I'm saying is this dude now currently and for a recent amount of time Specifically after you you're split with him, right? He has a relationship with a fucking inanimate object that's completely gives him a hundred percent of the power That is like some silence of lamb shit. That's some what is that guy's name? Bill wow bill wow bill buffalo bill buffalo bill shit. That's buffalo bill shit I'm not fucking around if you think tfm is anything useful to say today You were fucking idiot the guy's mentally deranged he belongs in padded room and looks like long-term therapy This is sick a sick individual who's still in the fucking on youtube and shit. He's fucked up in the head I'm not fucking around. I make no apology for it. And if you disagree, I think you're done. Fuck bottom bottom line And again, I don't care about the doll and the toys. None of that matters to me. I'm not even gonna argue about it I don't care. It's fine. I don't give a fuck. It's the relationship The relationship itself not the items involved in the other little details and shit irrelevant If you know what you're saying relationship with the doll you're fucked up in the head So what you're saying is that you're not going to marry the shotgun that's hanging behind you and try to Bang the 12 gauge. I put a ring on the barrel yesterday, but I had to take it off. He cheated on me or she cheated on me Right, right I was I was putting my dummy rounds through the snap caps and she she popped off on me that bitch Yeah, but no, it's sick and you know, but if you don't see if I'm telling guys straight up man This is what any fucking psychologists would tell you feminist douche bag or savage motherfucker Like Sean Smith or Ken Curry and the guys Robert Glover would tell you this is not a controversial issue You know anything about mental health. It's pathology and people need to get away from it. It's sick, man. It's sick Now I do want to get some questions meant for I got some some malign items I want to get through hot seat for dj. All right, let's do it All right, talk to me about the relationship between migtow and the red pill two different tribes of the manasphere Which would be I think best illustrated by reddit on the red pill subreddit You had about 300,000 guys for the quarantine on the migtow subreddit You had about 300,000 I think for the quarantine So two different communities that were at least recently instilled to some degree centered on reddit Red pill manasphere tribe versus migtow manasphere tribe. What did you take on that? And what are the differences and what are the agreements and all that? Well, I think that again this goes back to my my previous statement that you know in the last probably since 2014 2015 there have been a lot of migtow voices out there that Basically kind of moved away from the manifesto and have kind of tried to change the definition of what migtow originally was Because it was a more convenient definition for them and their particular brand But I think that if we're really going to talk about the difference between migtow and the manasphere I think that using reddit is a poor comparison because Primarily when when migtow got started when these guys got started they were talking on forums They were talking on you know the comments on blog posts and websites and those types of things and while they used reddit reddit wasn't the primary Thing for a lot of them, right? It was just one component And so I think when we talk about migtow versus the manasphere, you know, there's a lot of people I mean puas have been around for a very long time. They've been around since before the internet Dating coaches same thing. I think though that the proliferation In the manasphere, I think that you see a lot of of migtow wisdom from from the originators of the philosophy A lot of these things are parroted across the manasphere in fact if you remember there was a a website out there called return to kings and Return to kings was kind of a it was ruseous thing before he took the godpill and became a christian And there were a lot of people He's not even taking godpills all bullshit. Yeah, but well anyway Regardless of what you think of it. My point is is that You know years ago on on on on his blog They were people who were talking about the migtow manifesto and they were talking about the no-man blog and things like that because A lot of these people got their ideas and got their belief systems and and got their philosophy And got their manasphere knowledge and got their red pills From the original migtow content creators. Some of these people were on youtube Some of these people were writing for blogs. Some of them did both like bar bar had been around forever He wrote a blog and on top of that You know, he had a youtube channel. So, you know, I see them. I see them as distinct communities That's why I brought red it up red. Well, they are they are the same community The only difference is is that again it goes back to that cult of personality. So, well, no, I think they're I think they're different Man, that's what I'm trying to bring up and I don't think that I think it's a physical fact We can observe they're not the same thing and they fight the migtow is sometimes Well, the red pill and the red pill would make fun of them I think that I think that that's an accurate observation if you go back about five or six years But I think prior but I think prior to that I think that the manasphere and the migtow community dovetailed each other more than they thought And I think that one of the challenges is is that again You know five or six years ago You started seeing all these manasphere personalities pop up on youtube and the internet And then they decided they wanted to grow their channels So they created these drama marketing beefs with each other and you know, oh, we're going to fight for the customer base so to speak and so You know and again, you know If you're selling dating coach classes or dating coach courses or you've got some product to sell No matter what that product is You're going to shame those who don't use your product Because you're trying to market your product is a better way of life It's like the 1950s when people had you know, they were marketing washers and dryers to housewives They're like look your life will be improved with this washer and dryer You won't have to manually wash it anymore and they sold them, you know left and right I think the manasphere at some level is the same way. They're not necessarily Admitting that you're just selling some fucking cheap dick webinar. They're trying to sell a lifestyle They're trying to sell success porn And whatever whatever their personal definition of success is and so when it comes to that I think that the main differences are Is that people were threatened by big tau the early manasphere voices were threatened by big tau and so they they had to attack mig tau in order to Try to create some credibility for themselves, but I will say this Some of the Pretty much and and the other thing I would say is this is that You know some of the criticisms of of mig tau that have happened say between 2015-2021 Not all of those criticisms are baseless Many of those criticisms have their basis in fact because again There were people in the mig tau community at some point that were trying to promote their own personal brand And under the guise of helping men and so you know whereas my view of the mig tau community and the mig tau philosophy is Not only do I want to help men today But I want to empower those men so that they can help the next generation of men I I don't want people to come to my fish market and buy fish from me I want them to come to my fish market and learn to fish so they can fish for themselves Now if they want to buy some fish until they learn how to fish that's fine That's up to them But again at the end of the day, you know, I can't care about you more than you care about yourself So That's that's that's the truth right there. So if you invest in yourself if you invest in improving your life You know financially psychologically emotionally and socially and spiritually Then yeah, go do you and and make those decisions Um But don't don't expect everybody else to give it for you But there are people out here in these communities going oh look you have to take a daily red pill Let me ask you something, you know, I'm a fucking 50 year old man. I'll be 51 this year Do I really need to be told not to put my hand on the hot fucking stove when I learned it at three years old? Really? Do I need to be reminded of that shit every day? Do I need somebody to infantilize me and say oh here you go, baby dj Don't shit your pants now walk in from oh my god, you did so great. No fuck that We're adults. We're self-reliant men, right? Some of these lessons that you learn in the manisphere some of these lessons that these men Learned from migtail voices mine or anybody else that they listen to they don't necessarily need to to hear it every day And you shouldn't be consuming Migtail content every day or even uh video content from everybody else every day The point is is to live your life It's not to hear about how to live your life because i'll tell you if you spend all your time Reading about how somebody else lives their life or watching somebody else's drama on youtube Your life will pass you by and time is a super powerful Non-renewable resource and you are in control of yours we'll put Next question for the hot seat dj What's the relationship between migtail and the black pill the black pill is this new Not a new pill necessarily, but it's been rising in popularity and prominence That's say about six months 12 months in the manisphere I think that the concise definition of migtail and the black pill or the differences. I should say the comparison is that black pill people are nihilistic and So some of them not only want to watch the world burn But if you take Nietzsche's view of nihilism What they do Is they they put their shoulder to the plow so to speak and they try to make the world burn and really In many cases that is the essence of the black pill whereas migtail says look step one walk away Walk away from the drama walk away from the bullshit walk away from the gyno-centrism that's out of control Walk away from the feminist trap Don't play the rigged game But once you've left Make a life for yourself Try to be happy, you know participate in your community You know make friends have a job get some self-esteem and if you need psychological help or assistance Find like-minded people in your communities in order to do that because you deserve to live a A full and complete life and just because you don't necessarily want to get married Doesn't mean that you shouldn't enjoy life and it doesn't mean you shouldn't participate in a community and so in in many ways Migtail especially those who follow the manifesto Those migtail have hope those migtail have lives those migtail shower every day. They're financially independent. They they know how to You know manage their lives in all these different arenas They've just they've listen. They talk to women. They communicate with women. They interact with women. They just don't marry them And they don't and they don't support women who are not feminine You know feminine they don't support women who are not honest In fact, they don't even support men who aren't honest. So I think that when it comes to do we just got to all get along bro We got to unite against feminism. No, we got to unite with the frauds, bro We got to I tell this I tell this to christians as well There's nothing in the christian religion that says you got to tolerate sin Okay, it's the same thing with you know Ethics and and that's the other thing too one of the things that's missing from the manisphere the modern manisphere is is Ethics it's integrity and I'm not saying like, you know, you have a duty to do this or a duty to do that per se But I am saying that look As a migtail you can walk away. You can build a new life for yourself. You can um, you know, basically say here here's the ugly truth, right And and the thing about black pill is that black pill people see the ugly truth for what it is, right? They do but They don't have any solutions. In fact, they have less solutions than modern migtail do And that's the problem is that you know, when you when you become nihilistic and you just want to see the world burn Or you want to you know, you want to have your your civil war or anything like that Usually the people who are promoting this have never been in war. They've never been in a life or death fight They've never been in a situation where their life has been genuinely threatened By someone else. Yeah, they're bunch of beta male beta male police beta male dorks being well You know, I don't like to use that. You know, I'm trying to get away from alpha beta But I think the more accurate term is They are ignorant and unworldly if you talk to somebody who's been in war who's been in a combat zone their view on physical altercations whether it's one on one or whether it's civil war or anything in between You know, they are justifiably reticent To create those situations because they know that you know Once you go down that path things get really unpredictable really fast And the thing that nobody wants to admit to is this it doesn't matter what your skills are The closer in proximity you are to a dangerous situation, whether it's physical emotional or psychological The less your skills matter proximity always overcomes your skillset And so that's why mig tau walk away. You don't want to be around the psychological damage that feminists create or the abuse of missandrist environment that they foster and so You try to create healthier environments for yourself. So I think that but but to kind of circle back To the to the you know mig tau versus black pill, you know I perceive black pill as being more nihilistic because I don't see them coming up with any kind of sustainable solutions At least not from a societal level now if we were living in you know mad max or if our life was you know Run by a video game then then that's sort of black and white thinking might work But unfortunately that's not the case and we don't get any extra lives. We just get the ones we have right now Yeah, good take man. I appreciate it Next question another hot take question. What's the relate you've mentioned a little bit here throughout the show Men's rights activists men's rights community. Uh, that would be guys like, you know I would say the current leader informally be like paul elam Obviously, dr. Warren ferrell will be like probably the godfather or the founding father in a way of the men's rights community uh activism Maybe not the only one but one of them for sure one of the most prominent He was on the red man group with me last year great dude But what's the relationship between the men's rights community and that whole wing of the monastery or that tribe And the mixtape community I'd say the men's rights are probably a little bit older for example, but both have been Both are very dominant. I'd say communities in the monastery So what's the relationship between the two some of the similarities and the differences? I think that there's a portion of the mixtape community and the men's rights community that dovetail But I think that that those in the mixtape community like myself for example You know, I come from the men's rights community But the problem with the men's rights community as a whole Is that it's part of that out of out of control Out of balance gator centrism. So what's happened in the last probably 10 or 15 years Is that the majority of the larger men's rights groups have been taken over by women? And then what's happened is is that these women some of which by the way end up you find out later Are our feminist infiltrators who who basically get into these leadership positions? They manipulate their way through to get in the leadership position to defang the men's rights group that they're in And this is called entryism and it's a communist tactic that that Came out in like the 20s and 30s 1920s 1930s And so it's called the trotsky french turn. But that said The men's rights community as a whole in a general sense has not been very effective And the reason it's not been very effective is because men in society in general are considered utilities And I think that the idea of men's rights Is is the wrong way forward And what I mean by that is is that? Feminists and the enemies of men have really done a fantastic job of Stigmatizing the term and stigmatizing groups that are men's rights I think the reality is this and you could talk to any any father in family court And I think that he will probably agree with me is that Really what we should be discussing is family rights And what I mean by family rights is is that you know a lot of men myself included You know we go back family court to protect our children. It's not just about getting divorced or anything like that It's about protecting our children. It's about protecting our genetic legacy And it's about protecting our future And so you can't have a family without a father not a functional family and the study is all backed out But family rights is not going to be I like the terminology. It's a it's an effective cultural weapon I would agree with that where I would disagree is that I don't think it's going to be encompassing enough And the me too movement How toxic that is is an illustration of that. Well, but here's the thing that you need to understand Secular movements don't survive they never have And you know, we talked about tfm a little bit earlier on And one of the things tfm talks about consistently is the success Of religious communities such as the muslim communities the amish communities the menonites and how they are able to successfully live In societies that are not out of control like western societies I can push back on that in a pretty useful way. So you're saying secular, but really what you mean is Philosophies that are not supernatural not religious necessarily No, I what I what I mean is I don't hang on a religion is just a philosophy. I'm not talking but hold on. Hold on I'm not talking about This in terms of a philosophy the men's rights movement. It's not a philosophy mig tau is the men's rights movement Is an ideological stance. So it has political implications and what I'm telling you is is that When you have movements the movements that survive The only way they survive is to is to have a cause greater than themselves So when the founding fathers formed the united states, they formed it on christian morality Even if they didn't necessarily always openly admitted it, right and then those religious beliefs Guided that morality and created the basis of the country that we have today And all I'm saying is is that if you rebrand from men's rights to family rights Now you can involve christian communities and you can Um, you know incorporate christian communities as allies because the thing about christian communities is they understand the value of family They understand the value of of raising your children with a level of empirical morality Some of them do a lot of them are just feminists today. There's I'm not discussing the heretics, right? It's a lot of them It's a lot of them, but but I'll tell you like I said there is an evangelical wave that is coming back And they're not all just rebranding themselves, right? But I will say this I think that that men's rights and in mig tau I think men's rights have the right idea But the problem was is that they allowed feminists to frame the conversation mig tau don't Make tau say, you know what we we you know, we're gonna cut bait We're gonna go home We're gonna go over here and we're gonna let feminists talk to themselves because we know that's a self-cleaning oven And we know that they're gonna create a circular firing squad. We'll come back We'll pick up the pieces and we'll rebuild society once it's done Okay Next question I wanted to ask you a similar hot sea question What's the relationship of the stance? So, but I would say the relationship more so between mig tau and track cons The mixtiles I think most not all not all something not all not all but some at least would call it track cons like trad cucks and shit like that So I see stance there a mixtile versus track on stuff. Well, I will say this that you know, I About a year or two ago. I realized that there is a civil war Amidst traditional conservatives in the same way that there's a civil war Between the Christians and the heretics who were trying to take over the church And I kind of did some history to kind of educate myself because I really didn't understand the history And I find that if you look at history it kind of informs the present And what I found was is that back in the 70s and the 80s Neo conservatives were actually democrats They were voting democrats and some of them before being voting democrats were open out and loud communists And so now they rebrand themselves as neo conservatives They show up with the republican party of the GOP and now they have massive amounts of influence So you have a large swath of the conservative movement today That really are our communist light. They want big government. They they want imperialism They want all these different things. They want foreign intervention unnecessarily and all these different BS things right and then you have your traditional conservatives, which really are truly traditional conservatives Who don't believe in any of those things and today those people have been rebranded as like maga conservatives or america first conservatives those types of things and so The differences between mig tau and the conservative movement as a whole With with that context of that civil war going on is that a lot of mig tau especially the self-reliant ones Who involve themselves in in pushing for limited government who are politically active whether they vote or just informed on the issues These mig tau. I think in a lot of ways Act with a lot more clarity than you see with traditional conservatives So for example things that the mig tau community was talking about specifically myself and other people two three four years ago Are just now started to be talked about in the mainstream Because they're just now figuring it out and I think part of it was that They just were afraid to confront these issues, you know The the red pill when it came to those issues was extremely bitter to swallow And they lived in denial for for a great deal of time. They had a normalcy bias that unfortunately Um may be fatal to the conservative movement And I think now we're seeing a huge house cleaning happening in the conservative movement and I when I completely support But I mean you have every tom dick and harry going. Oh, I'm conservative. Oh, what's that antifa sticker? Oh, that's the conservative branch of antifa. We're a different kind of republican. Yeah, okay, whatever, you know Line up against the wall. Okay, get George a george bush republicans. Yeah, exactly. You know exactly that's losers So there you go next question. Okay Uh next question. So what's the mctau stance on the patriarchy now? It's kind of related to track on stuff, obviously, but you know, I mean much more legitimately like a hardcore christian Lay michael foster a good friend of mine. They've been on the show a lot with us Uh spoke at 21 convention. He's a christian pastor evangelical like hardcore dude And uh, he's all you know, 100% patriarchy. He says patriarchy is inevitable, which I love to me That's very similar to the future is patriarchy and he means it. He ain't fucking around. It's not like a joke or some slogan He means it So what's the mctau stance on something like patriarchy past president the mctau? The mctau don't try to force patriarchy that like that's not the main motivation But they also understand that patriarchy is a natural consequence of supporting masculine men and feminine women That's it's a natural consequence and it's one of one of multiple But the idea is is it okay? Maybe patriarchy happens neat now if you're christian Then and you're not a heretic then you're going to support the biblical idea of patriarchy but I think the people thing people don't understand is is that Patriarchy doesn't necessarily mean that women are chattel but it does mean that Women have a role to play and it's not at the same level as men and and it's not is is subordinate As what a lot of feminists try to falsely paint it to be And so I think that when it comes to that, you know, yeah, women are meant to obey their husbands and meant to do all these things However, husbands have duty to their wives as well Right and and that's that's the christian belief of that And so while I am christian and and I do kind of consider myself evangelical i.e. not a fucking heretic Not that I have an opinion I also consider myself mctau within that within that framework in in that guideline And I think that, you know, we talked about the difference between the trad cons and and the mctau Listen, if if if there's any traditional conservatives listening with, you know, any kind of political influence If you want to fix society the first thing you have to do is repeal all the laws that discriminate against men And then what you need to do is you need to get rid of anybody working in government That is supportive or was ever a member of socialist organizations The communist party or is ever donated financially or volunteered for antifa blm Or any other organization that hates the united states there has to be like a macartheism 2.0 For the country to survive without a civil war Next question Well put man. Fuck yeah Uh, so last question. I think on this set the hot seat ones What's now we've talked about this a little bit, but I want to get like a clear take on it What's the relationship or the stance of mctau versus pickup artistry and the pickup artist community that was a really Seduction community even was called a huge part of the manisphere and in some ways still is it's kind of like dissolved or diluted into the rest of it But it was massive in 2000s and even a lot of the 2010s. That's how I found it 2005 Last point on this by the way last night there was a stream And uh somewhere in the manisphere some small channel like 500 subscribers I'm actually claimed that my company 21 convention and the event started in the men's rights community And I'm like the fuck like that's you know that you talking to ddj. It's complete bullshit We started in the pickup artist community, which is where I started and I even invited paul ilum Men's rights advocate speak at 21 convention back in like 2012. He told me to go fuck myself Specifically because of all the pickup artist stuff, right now we're in good terms now He was on the red man group last year and stuff and we talk he's a good dude But yeah, I mean this the idea that my company was founded in the men's rights community is completely factually stupid nonsense Pick up artist stuff And so that's where I come from too personally and then my company and even red man group Through 21 studios really comes back to the foundation in the pickup artist community And I was not red pill. Let me make that clear like in that time of my life I was much more purple killed my red pill ideas only came from very physical Uh, you know cold approach style interactions with women and that gave me a red pill understanding and a lot of pickup artists I think would be red pill, but it's very limited To that and then beyond that like the other issues of mctown stuff focused on even men's rights They're not red pill on and I think it's eventually why the red pill community even got started As a hive off of maybe both the pickup artist community and even some of the mctown stuff like you're talking about But bottom line relationship between mctown and pua Uh, I think that mctown myself included don't really have a lot of respect for pua and for myself Um, I think that the main reason I don't have a lot of respect for puas is because you really have to ask yourself a simple question What are the what did these men do for a living before they became pua? And I think that's an important question to ask Because what happens is you separate the self-reliant men from the grifters, right? So a lot of these puas pretend. Oh, you know, I care about men. I want to get you laid. I want to do this I want to do that. That's all fine and good But the problem that you have is is this is a business This is a complete business for these people. They're trying to separate you from your money And the other side of it is is that when it comes to the pua communities For many of these people it's a grift, right? So, you know, they'll take you to vegas and they're gonna they're gonna show you the field test And you're gonna walk up to the super hot chick and pick her up But what they don't tell you is is that a week earlier they paid this woman to be you know to be the pickup Right to give you always a case. I'm not saying listen. I'm not saying it's always a case But I'm saying it does happen too often, right? Yeah, to the point. It's a fucking meme But my point is is that these guys sit here and and They're trying to basically go. Oh, look how I do it. Look at this and this and that The number one lesson you can learn from pickup artists is this You don't have to be a genetic alpha male to get laid Because many of these pickup artists, they're not they're not super model material. Okay Let's just be honest. They're they're guys who who, you know, they they have nice clothes. They have decent grooming They have decent social skills. They have a little bit of uh, you know, social acumen They know a little bit about the world. They've been laid a couple times Um, you know and and they go to the gym occasionally, right? That's that's it. That's it Migtal say focus on yourself Don't don't focus on her focus on yourself And I have to say that, you know, there's a dating coach out there named Steve the dean Williams And and we disagree on a fair amount of things But I'll tell you what I have nothing but respect for this man because he says what's on his mind He'll say it to me and the one thing he's absolutely correct on and this is where we agree and that is this If you work on yourself pussy will come out of the woodwork You don't need a you don't need a a thousand dollar webinar to go do it and you don't need to approach You know every woman under the sun Like a like a desperate thirsty cuck because let me tell you something if you're a Yeah, yeah, if you're a self-reliant man, right? And either you're purchasing your own house or you're renting a nice house You're clean. You're relatively fit. You don't even need to have a six pack, right? You got a decent car. You have a little bit of personality The women will find you That is the reality and that's what that's what Steve the dean talks about. Okay women women are just a They will show up In the weirdest fucking places you'll go to some places like god damn There's gonna be no women here. This is gonna be fucking great And then you turn around you like are you fucking kidding me? Jesus christ I went to the god damn in Antarctica and now there's these three bitches down here trying to fuck me Bitch, how did you get here? Right? And so, you know, but that's the point. The point is is that mctau say Focus on you Focus on your life make your life holistic have hobbies have interests, you know People always say like smart people anyway. They say women are human beings Men are human doings go do things. So are you telling me Steve the deans of mctau? No, he's married. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Right, right Yeah, I mean I'm not deans mctau damn son now now. I will say this I mean, I I appreciate that, you know, steve the dean may not always Be actively married, but it's my understanding that he is Right, I don't know. Not my turn to babysit, but I'm saying but I'll tell you what there are a lot of guys out there Who deny their mctau and they are and some of these guys are pua dating coaches. Some of these guys are, you know Trad cons, you know, they're not married. They know they don't want to get married like the guy who played superman He took all kinds of shit What's his name the the recently sure uh, Dude, uh, no, he's a british. I think, uh, Henry cavill. Henry cavill. Yeah, Henry cavill. Henry cavill's mctau He came out and fucking said it just I mean he all but said he said he basically said That he didn't want to date modern women because he thought that they were cancer. That is a mctau viewpoint, right? That's a true statement as well. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, why do you hear a thing mctau? No, look if you need to get laid all you need to do is do a booty call You don't even have to go to a date, right? It's like that old school rap song. You're thinking lobster I'm thinking burger king. Okay. It's that whole scenario. It literally that's where it's at And there's a lot of guys out there that are within the mctau community Who they still see women, but they still have lives. They you know, they own their own car They own their own house many of them own their own business and all these people Whether they they identify with the term whether they've heard it or not They know that you don't hang out with trashy women if you want to get married They know that you don't go out and and bottom feed, right? I mean, you could even go to chapter seven in the bible for proverbs for anybody who wants to read it The whole fucking chapter is about avoiding adulterous women Okay mctau understand most modern women today are adulterous And the thing is is that you know, there's a lot of guys out there who are going to shame men And some men get rejected. I got rejected That's not where the story ends. That's how men discover the red pill. It's not where it ends Men sometimes get sent their own way only to find out they can choose to go whatever way they want to And men who couldn't get laid because they're insecure or because you know, they're Funnily not financially not secure. They're stressed out. They remove those stresses from their life They remove all those other things from their life. They become self-reliant They dedicate themselves to being a better man that they were yesterday Then at that point they can choose to continue to walk away from women They can choose to date women they can choose to get married if they want to that is up to them mctau is not meant to be A fight against feminism All mctau is there for is to educate men on the dangers of feminism And the and the modern women monsters it's created and to say look Now you have the warning what you choose to do with that warning is up to you Based on what you feel your risk tolerance is that's it Okay, we'll put Two more questions. I'll kind of wind it down here then and the show it's been a little over two hours So, uh, what is your take uh take on and I would call it off brand mctau Guys who like were mctau and then they rebrand and repackage into something new Legitimate reasons or not or somewhere in between. You know what I mean? Well, there are a couple guys out there. So I actually know a little bit about this I've spoken with some content creators out there probably about two years ago when I kind of stepped back And there were a lot of people in the migtau community that were not only misinforming people They were using their youtube channels as like their cathartic personal therapy without a therapist, right? And so you were watching like the psychological deterioration of their life, you know one video at a time and A lot of these long-term migtau people some of these guys had been in the community for 10 more or more years They realized that the migtau brand so to speak um put a bullseye on their head and Basically created more problems than it was solving for these guys. So a lot of them Behind the scenes remain migtau But they don't actually say the term because they're trying to to game the algorithm for youtube And they're trying to limit their exposure to cancel culture and things like that now with that said There are just as many guys out there who will Start out as migtau channels And then they will switch up to either dating coaching or they'll switch up to whatever And they'll drop the migtau brand because they what they want to do is they know that um You know a lot of guys who follow migtau content They don't listen to bullshit, right? They're not they're bullshit detectors on high because migtau constantly gets shamed So they're they're reticent. So when people start speaking universal red pill truths What ends up happening? It's like, oh, yeah, let's follow this guy Well, then his his audience builds up and then he ends up leaving the community because he's like, okay And he was never migtau to begin with. I know there was one guy like voltair Um, you look at it coach greg adams. For example is another. I mean, he's a pua. He's selling dating I mean he may call himself whatever he wants. He's a dating coach, right? And don't get me wrong I mean if he wants to follow the free anus lifestyle, he can be a free anus as much as he wants But he's not migtau I will say this pause will be about migtau over all the tribes in the manasphere migtau, pua, red pill and mra is And even the patriarch dracon dudes I think the migtau are probably some of the most savage and maybe the most savage tribe. They're savage Like I think you know, these guys not getting pushed back from their own their own fans and stuff Those are the migtau dudes who are pissed off and they're not pussies And we'll pick up right the nice thing about yeah And the nice thing about migtau is like look if i'm wrong and I know that i'm wrong and somebody calls me out I admit it. I'm like yeah, I'm wrong or if somebody disagrees with me Nobody has to agree with me. This is my opinion, right? I'm just I'm just a person. I'm a guy I'm a nobody behind a keyboard. I always have been I always will be And anybody who thinks they're anything but that Is going to end up falling on the sword of their own hubris And so there are you know, there are many ways to get where you're going But if you're full of shit or you're a grifter Number one, I'm gonna probably call you out if you're if you're a grifter number That's number one and I've called out many people over the years for feminine. That's feminine. That's drama Yeah, I got I got your feminine energy. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I look behind the sack My point is is that But on the same token You know, there are different migtau content creators that appeal to different audiences So wherever you're at you have a choice of of migtau voice That's my next that's my next question is what do you recommend for guys for sources? Like obviously there's uh, your channel Well, who's your channel? Who else do you recommend? Well, go go to go to missandry today dot com Okay Is a link up here? Yeah, I think that's it right there. Yeah, I'll pull it up in a second air Okay Um, I would say that if you want good solid content Um, first and foremost, I would look at a lot of the old content creators. I would look at Uh, a lot of bar bars content while I don't agree with everything. He says he's got a lot of good content He's been around for a long time. I would look at stardust I would look at, uh, human I would look at sunrise hoodie All of these guys Are great content creators and then what I would do Is I would look at coltain I would look at paul proteas. Um, and by the way, uh rest in peace paul proteas in my view he he He had the biggest, uh impact on me kind of going toward the red pill and going my own way and You know, he's an everyman without any kind of ego So there's a lot of people like that. So coltain razor blade candy paul proteas Stardust human, you know, these guys are migthau grates Uh, you know bar bar a lot of really solid good content from these people that is more than just Feminist response videos or gotcha moments or these are the godfathers of migthau essentially um loosely speaking I think I would call them the elders Okay, the elders of migthau now the thing is is you have to remember each one of these content creators Offers something different. They have a different perspective They have a a different way of communicating and so you might not necessarily resonate with stardust But you might resonate with human or you might not resonate with paul proteas What you're going to resonate with bar bar and and they all take it from a different perspective But they're all sane in general terms. They all say similar things, but they all have their their grains of irrefutable wisdom that They're they're undeniable And and I should also say this even if somebody doesn't um Yeah, I I don't I don't respect the bitter bachelor because because it let's be honest If you look at a lot of his videos a lot of what he says is a regurgitation of what tfm said years ago All he's doing is recycling old content and trying to monetize it I'm not convinced that the bitter bachelor Is truly migthau and I am deeply concerned that he is one of those people That is just trying to use the brand and go from there with that said I don't know a lot about the bitter bachelor other than things I've seen and who he associates with But the videos that I've seen it's the same shit almost sometimes word for word of what tfm has said years ago so While again while we all kind of say a lot of similar things we say it in our own way But yeah, there's a lot of people who Are really good. Yeah, and two people I missed undead chronic Terrence pop Those guys are those guys are phenomenal and then I think about like Terrence pop is he's more mainstream And he appeals to the military And so, you know a lot of red pills happen in the military Even if you're not part of the mana sphere just because guys are trying to take care of other guys when they're in foreign countries They become brothers and arms so to speak so those are good solid content creators as well And again, I don't necessarily agree with what any of these people say But I think that it's important that People understand who these people were because right now We don't have a lot of current content creators out there that openly identify as migthau or have openly identified as migthau That are out there trying to help men Yeah, what's that man? I like sand man stuff. But the problem is is that sand man is a self-admitted shill He does all his videos are sponsored videos. They're videos for pay You know sand man's there to make money. He says a lot of honest and true things But I think that and and I don't and I don't mean sand man's a shill in that He's only out for the money. I believe he believes what he says he's doing So you think sand man is a net positive to the man's sphere in the big town? Absolutely. Absolutely Sand man is a net positive for the man's sphere, but I think that sponsored videos Each and every video he does. I think he's just using it to promote his lifestyle But I will say this I respect sand man. I respect a lot of what he says even though I disagree with some of the things he says But sand man actually had a career before he ever became a migthau content creator He was a wedding photographer. He actually had a skillset Yes, I did forget about fucking spetsnaz. You got me. There you go spetsnaz as well Spetsnaz is super important. So But the nice thing about sand man is Sand man does a really good job of kind of like a migthau one-on-one sort of thing from an anecdotal point of view So he kind of explains it. I'm just not a big fan of the nasal voice Sand man here so You know and and again, it's just that's my own personal thing and again Dude, I actually thought sand man was a robotic voice He was like using that he bought or something to say words until I saw him on a live stream I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. That's his real voice. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. And again, he's he's you know I'm taking shots at him and I'm sure he'll take shots at me. Whatever. It's all good Going on. Yeah, I don't I don't have any ethical issues with sand man other than like I said, you know He's he's just trying to make a buck doing it. So Oh my god somebody somebody pulled out black dragon. Oh god I forgot about him too. There was a guy is are you talking about the black dragon bra blog jared? That's that's kaleb jones I don't think he's migthau. I know he spoke with 21 convention. I met that guy There was a guy from black dragon blog who was kind of a Pua type, but he's spouted a lot of migthau wisdom. I don't maybe maybe that is maybe it's someone else though I don't know. Maybe jared. I don't know. Maybe somebody. I don't know. I will say this That's funny So he said donovan sharp is the big mess big nut content creator. That's hilarious um But I think you know, like I said, I think that you know, these people approach people from a different viewpoint um Somebody just mentioned howard dare Uh, apparently he got doxed and I don't know if it's truly him But the dox that I I saw on video howard dare was married and he was like a college professor um But you know a lot of people liked his stuff. Yeah, he had a lot of people listening to his live show So the sharp mama is not migthau in your opinion He never has been in fact. He's actually uh before his channel got struck down. He did anti migthau videos I know um, and yeah druid um, erin clary no respect for him He actually doxed bar bar and stardust according to razor blade candy that video still up on youtube Not a big fan of doxers So yeah, so you know, but I will say this I think that you know the The migthau community is is there's not a lot of current creators that are out there So one of the reasons I wanted to bring up the website my website So I have a website out there for those that don't know it's called missandrytoday.com And if you go to the website as he tries to bring it up here So one of the things that I've done on missandrytoday.com is this is not just a landing page So my videos are there. There's articles from myself and other authors that are there If you want to write something on missandrytoday you want to be a contributor or an author Reach out to me at ddj at missandrytoday.com, but also there are memes here. You can download some of the memes I've got a bunch more. I'm getting ready to upload. There's a lot of This is interesting. Well, we're going to get there in a second. So we also have research there We upload research papers to the site so that people can Deal with that. No, ma'am is an important aspect of the site. It's the migthau bible in my opinion If you scroll through it, uh, I would start with the masculine principle Um, oh a book of poop. This is cool. Correct. Now not everything is there yet But what we've done is is we've backed up the entire no-man blog which is thousands of pages And the reason we did that is because no-man blog is hosted on google blog spot And you're gonna show alert you have ads bro. You're not you're not pure bro. You have to die now You're just show bro. Yeah, whatever. I don't care. He's kidding. He's kidding. Yeah So so my point is though is and we've also got permission from the guy who runs the masculine of the men's tribune And that's under the no-man side as well And what we've done here is is we've taken all this this information some of which is 20 plus years old And we've put it here as kind of a library of alexandria of the manosphere So that people can go to the site and they can just kind of read it and they can do, you know And and and go from there and and again, there's no there's no pay wall or anything like that You don't have to enter in your email or anything. Um, it's just You know, you can surf anonymously check it out A lot of really good content and you're gonna find out too if you spend some time on no-man on this side Or if you find the original blog if you spend some time there What you're gonna see is you're going to see a lot of the stuff that a lot of content creators have said the last four or five years They plagiarized off of no-man So there's a there's a lot of stuff that's out there And I think that that's extremely important to know because then you're going to get a better idea of things More importantly, you don't necessarily have to watch a 10 or 20 or 30 minute video or a six hour live stream In order to get the red pill knowledge you're looking for you can go to the migtail bible You can scroll through you can search the website and you can find what you're looking for now As you can see, it's a pretty decent website It cost me money to host it cost me money for traffic Everything there cost me money if you want to support the website feel free to buy my book Feel free to subscribe to the unsubscribe star now if you go to the shop on the right, there's a drop-down menu for the shop You can buy Miss Andrew today gear All this supports the website. This is I have a job I don't necessarily need the money for myself, but I would like to have My content financially support itself And so there's products you can purchase. I even have I even have Miss Andrew today underwear. Okay? I don't care about the underwear. I'm gonna I'm gonna get a mug though. Yeah, there's mugs Uh, you could you could graffiti with stickers You can go take them buy 100 stickers and run through town and stick them on telephone poles Um, you know I feel like a mug salesman now by the mugs folks buy the fucking Hashtag shill alert goddamn that ddj is a shill Um, I'll tell you what though. I I so I had a couple other stores Um that I was gonna go through I actually built my my guide my web my web admin admin Built that store from the ground up. He did a lot of work on it because every store they're like Oh, no, you can't use the term Miss Andrew today or you can't have the Miss Andrew today logo or your mig towel We can't do it. So you have to understand like Everything on this website was professionally built from the ground up Everything and and we had to And again, it's because of you know, cancel culture and things like that, but this is good, man I like we want this website. Like I said, this website is a destination place You'll find videos there. You'll find articles there. I try to blog at least once a week there now Uh, if you're interested in writing for the site or you have an opinion that you want to share Feel free to contact me. We'll publish your article on the site. Um, again the no-ma'am stuff is really super important So It's it's very because again, I don't want this knowledge lost because I don't want some grifter to show up and go Oh, you know, here's the thing This is a knowledge that I only have and you got to go behind my pay wall and and buy my $1,500 Webinar in order to get the content. Well, you can go here and get it for free There's uh, if you go back to the no-ma'am, there's actually a A seduction book there that one guy wrote. I'm not a pua, but I'll tell you what A lot of what he says is valid advice So and you know, and if you're more of the philosophical type, you need to read the book of puke So again, I just want to make sure that people understand that this stuff is there My goal is to help men, but it's to help men help themselves. It's not to babysit you Me too, man. That's good. It's a very good model to have and it's healthy. That's what, um It reminds me of the scene. Yeah, that's why it pisses me off so much in the man's sphere I'm gonna come out and say it so many dudes including some guys are still like like I like I still kind of I'm frustrated with Terrence pop. I think he's making a really bad decision That seems to be consensus among the migtail and many others on youtube and publicly That's my public opinion and it's I think it's a pretty common sense for me to take honestly But you know, so many dudes in the man's sphere, you know, whatever the specifics of it are You know, the the fraud father, for example, is a much more egregious Malicious issue. I don't think Terrence pops malicious in any way shape or form But people talk about saving lives saving lives saving lives Uh, I think this is complete bullshit. Like wherever these guys think this is this is not how things work or they're it's definitely not How they should work if you think back to the matrix, uh series where of course the red pill Fucking came from in the blue pill is an analogy in common popular culture What did Nia say? What did the killing reef say as an actor? I think the second movie, right? You know, I didn't save you kid. You save yourself And that idea seems to be completely going over everybody's fucking head in the man's here, right? Oh, he saved me. This guy saved me that cult of personality saved me that dude on youtube saved me Uh, you know, it's it's different. I think too when they say a person save them versus a thing The man's sphere like saved my life out of divorce rate migtail saved my life That to me is not perfect, but it's different from a person. That's where you get codependency and this weird shit And a lot of these dudes will fucking promote it. Rollo is the worst of all by far No one's even in his category of promoting this crap That's like, dude, you didn't say I get people emailing me and the speakers and stuff that I know They emailed me directly if I don't like to mention save my life It's like I appreciate that it was a tool for you to use to help you improve your life and even save yourself from some really serious Shit, including maybe, you know, you were legitimately suicidal But you need you saved yourself like you're responsible for your own actions I didn't fucking save you unless I physically pulled you out of a drown like a pool like you're drowning You save yourself. You did something you took action. So all these dudes talk about saving lives. This is fucking weird, man I don't like it. You know, they need to be saying I didn't save you you save yourself And they don't do that very rarely do men do that these leaders they feed off this shit, especially the fraud father You know, roll out. Well, and and let me kind of say this too I think I think you bring up some good points and I kind of want to dovetail a little bit off of that um One of the biggest complaints that I've seen about feminism and communism, especially now today in cancel culture Is there's no concept of forgiveness Right, you know, we we're humans. We're all fallible and and I'm no I'm no less fallible than anybody else I I fuck up. I make mistakes. We all do and I'm married to hooker, bro Yeah, yeah, we all did just some of them didn't identify as such at the time All I'm saying is is that uh My point is is that When we make mistakes in the manisphere you see people make mistakes, especially if you're like a migtau voice, right? If you make a mistake in the manisphere, you have a difference of opinion Many people in the community not just migtau, but in the manisphere many people in these communities There's no redemption. There's no there's no trying to understand the other side It becomes a myopic me versus them Which is the thing that the manisphere is supposed to be standing against It's about, you know feminists and communists deal in absolutes Totalitarians deal in absolutes and you know when you're teaching your son how to ride a bike and he falls riding the bike You know, do you pull out your your open carry handgun and put a bullet in his head and go? I'm sorry you failed Right. No, you don't you go You know, you okay wipe the blood off, you know, don't worry about the broken bone It'll it'll heal itself get on the bike and start riding right, you know, you give him another chance to succeed and and men need to understand that and strong men do True strength sometimes especially when you're trying to help those you care about is concealed in gentleness It's not some totalitarian Darth Vader bullshit Men have emotions and feelings like everyone else. That's number one So this idea that that no man Can can be redeemed of a mistake they make is is completely totalitarian Now i'm not saying that like, you know, if you're a murderer or a child abuser that you know, um You don't necessarily deserve redemption I'm not going to be the one who gives it to you. That's only something God can do And the best I can do because I care is make the appointment But that said I think that that's number one number two Self-reliant men who think for themselves have the right and the duty to disagree where they do No one should be feel like they can't speak their mind I speak my mind all the time and I get a lot of criticism for the shit that I say But I believe in what I say, which is why I fucking say it Okay, if you look at my subscribe star right now, I'm not making any money on subscribe star I'm not making a shit ton of money off of my website And even though youtube is monetized me and yeah, you can watch my videos in the background to to help my monetization But i'm not making a lot of money off of that either But the point is I'm not doing it for that the only thing I care about is the the work I do online to help Men is self-sustaining. I don't need to pay my rent with this money I don't need to to pay my electricity with this money or to purchase my food with this money I have another source of income, but I want this to pay for itself And if you find value and that's great, but on the same token If you don't agree with what I say don't listen Go listen to sandman go listen to someone else skill, you know, whoever whoever you resonate with And and the reality is is that even Even the people I disagree with like I disagree with someone with sandman says I disagree with some of tfm says these two men are helping men They may not be helping everybody But there are men out there that they've helped and I'm sure that there are other men out there that they will help in the future Because regardless of whether or not I choose to disagree It's not my turn to fucking babysit neither is it theirs. They can go do their own thing their own way I'll go do my thing my own way just like stardust does just like human does and everybody else And I think that this idea that that we're not allowed to respectfully disagree Without everything turning into world war three. That's some that's some totalitarian bitch thinking stuff And and we should never Tolerate that now again It's what people do when they surround themselves with yes men and sycophants the fraud fathers Yeah, a perfect example of that. Yeah, I just agrees with this do the gangs out with anybody who does gets as communicated Case in point Dr. Shawn Smith got a debate with rollo publicly I'm rich group is channel still up Since that happened he blocked Shawn Smith and it's all fucking dead and all of a sudden Shawn Smith went from this great dude with a great book to who's that? I don't know the fucking dude I mean the level of it's immature bullshit like little kids basically they can't tolerate They can't tolerate honest honest debate and honest disagreement like hey, I don't agree with you and And discussion where it's not gonna agree fuck it. Yeah, that's fine. I don't got a problem with that Yeah, I mean that's that's my point, you know Every man is gonna go his own way in a different way, you know within reason, of course But I think that You know just because one content creator don't make it us versus them The only time it's appropriate to make it us versus them Is when you're standing against someone who has no ethics when you are standing against totalitarianism When you're standing something deeply corrupt deep yeah feminism communism socialism, right? And they're followers or frauds if there's a net negative in this community then Yeah, absolutely, and and and I'm not I mean I know undead chronic likes roast videos and that's fine He can have them and I know sometimes I roast people but I don't do it specifically because I'm roasting people I do it specifically because it's a public service announcement and and I want to you know, if there's there's a greater Motive behind it. It's not just I want to make somebody, you know, I don't want to hurt somebody's feelings or something But again, it doesn't matter Whether you listen to you know Who will you ever you listen to on the internet? My point is this Get the red pills from wherever you can get him my website Missing Andrew today is just one resource of many But there's not a lot of big towel content creators anymore That are making videos on the caliber of stardust or paul proteas or you know, some of these other people and human stuff is good But again, he may not resonate with you and you know because he's from australia He may have a very australian point of view whereas maybe if you're in europe You may have a you know, you want somebody with a european point of view or something like that So whether those I mean all these guys are great guys But whether you you know what you choose to listen to is fine Just don't let some fools separate you from your money and don't let some fool lead you down a dark path because They want to create some kind of cult or because of some kind of uh, you know They want another world war or you know, they want the in-cell apocalypse or anything like that walk away from those people Ghost the shit out of them, you know, when does the in-cell apocalypse happen before or after the single mother apocalypse run now? Honestly, I think it's going to be about as successful as most in-cell suicides because they fail at that too Okay, damn. Well, hey, we need to wrap up. I gotta I gotta bounce. This has been a pretty awesome show though Man, I really appreciate you hopping on today That we got a lot done a lot accomplished here investigating that the migthau community The migthau history and its relationship to the rest of the hemisphere and stuff like that. It's been awesome, man I appreciate you having me on and I appreciate everybody kind of keeping an eye out and watching and Um, I I also for those that do disagree with me. I see a couple in the comment section Um, I appreciate the fact that the disagreement was civil All right guys, we're gonna wrap up today show up civil and 40 dg I thank you very much makes you pick up his book on amazon. It's a very good book very thick. Look at that spine I'll look at that. Oh fat nice fat book like a thick woman. Get that shit. 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