 This is like such a crazy thing with fighting and you know people talk about it in jiu-jitsu like get past the panic zone You know get good with jokes and like hold on a little bit longer Don't panic get comfortable that and you know learn to went to tap and all that sort of shit But you know what from striking and real fighting whenever I've gotten a fight and I'm winning You know which Back in my 20s just wrestle the guy down and like fucking spit on him and like grab fish hook his mouth or something and Say who's the fucking master and then having to cry steal his shoes and make him get naked and walk home or whatever The fuck it was but like you know I'd take the guy down and nobody knew what to do So I just do that. I felt fucking good, right? I felt good and Then like when Matt hit me because it was like shoulder bump and then I'm like cool And then I just see this fist like and it's just this stoic look on his face because I can remember he's just like boom And it was just And in that moment you go through a process and if you're not used to it You know when you get rocked because this guy could hit like like with insane power man and um Basically it's like oh fuck And then you're like hurt. You're in pain You're you're like shit. What's going on and then you're pissed You know, it's about two seconds before so if you're in a fight one or two seconds Of lag time is not good in in uh, you know, if you're fighting and like we were talking about earlier You're you're whatever you are you have some advantage You you're start fucking somebody up and you're kicking ass you feel good You feel on top of the world and then one thing happens that inflicts pain that you can't avoid You know that you're a dorphins and dorphins can't override It's like It's an it's a pretty insane moment and I think that Guys who aren't aware of that uh You can just see a fight switch. You know, we were talking about that too Like if you get in a fight you like arm bar a guy And you're in a street fight or you do something like that As soon as you let go they fuck with you. You have to hurt them or you have to inflict like defeating pain Yeah, we either with head trauma or choke them out or Hurt their knee or something, you know, you know, you can see it too You can go actually go on youtube and find some fights you can see when guys have In that fight the first time they ever got hit or you know, actually some of the girl fights you can see that too They just they just shut out not everybody does that some people are natural born fighters You know, but some people it's such a shock to the system that they freeze And I had my very first fight when I was a young kid I froze a guy hit me like eight nine ten times and I was just at the deer and headlights my whole Side of my jaw was bruised for two or three months by my whole cheek And I just remember freezing not my whole body. Everything was like not just frozen. Like what the fuck was that? And it's that happens. That's why the experience has to be You have to know how you're going to react once you get hit And some fighters can go a long time and not know how they're going to react when they're in trouble You know, that's what sometimes guys can have a really good war And come out of that much better fighter because they were tested and and they may not stouted themselves like Me I I'm I'm pretty well tested and I'm pretty much know that if I if I were to go in a cage fight fight and get Started to get beat down. I quit I'm not that tough. You know, I'm not built like that. I'm not I don't I don't You know, um, not all the time I think I wouldn't I wouldn't fold in a in a street fighter would still try to survive But um, but some people are just like they can go into those deep waters and that's what makes the fighter You know that they can base their whole game off of that And other guys don't even know how they'll react when they get hit and you've got to know like I know how I would do in those situations And I because I've proven to myself that a I can get I can get through it. I've done it before B to me. It's not worth it. I'm not really like I'm not willing to put myself through that So I'm not really that tough to to do it but um, but it's the experience of knowing like When guys go when guys go into MMA and they get a really good training camp and the guys are beating the shit out of them They're training partners and their training camp is harder than their actual fight It's real hard to finish those guys. They may get caught in something but but when They because there's something that happens. It's almost like their whole being gets stronger as a result of getting beat down And this is this is the truth and that's not the recommended training method all the time But when you have those experiences behind you you keep those to a certain extent if that makes sense So just getting your ass beat, you know May save you in five years to know that okay. I can get through this. I've gone harder or it happens like Um, I used to wrestle on fridays with dox. No, he's what how big is that? and I just use it as a as a time to Call my my emotions and wait by my time on the bottom and try not to panic and Turn the tip turn the tides But what happens as a A result of that is that when I go wrestle other people They're not narrowly as tough or strong and I just naturally beat them because I'm already used to a higher level Right, you're saying so it's putting yourself in those situations of experiences that changes you on some level And and but you don't want to overdo it like that. Um, right. Yeah, you know Matt Hughes in their training camp used to be notorious for hurting guys and Yeah, yeah, and and so a lot of guys You know the injury To reward factors is it gets too much at some point it's in my opinion It's almost almost more important to go there at least once or twice When you know, it's gonna happen, but to get taken in those deep waters then it is to do it all the time