 Alright, thanks for staring at us now. A Twitter user had earlier taken to the comment section of a post by Abikeh Dabri on the recent happenings regarding Nigerian students at GD Goncah University in India to call her out over the ill treatment method out of Nigerians in Indonesia. Now, the Twitter user further berated the NITCOM boss for being part of the present administration which he described as a failure. She should go to Indonesia and see how Nigerians are being treated. Mumu Uman supporting a failed government. That was what the person said. She is equally part of the failure. Eye service. That was his tweet, right? Now this tweet seemed not to have gone well with Abikeh Dabri, who fired back at the individual and called him or De. Which is another Nigerian slang used to describe a fool. Now or De. You go to Indonesia, carry drugs, do cultism and come begging to be rescued from death sentence. Thank God for the NDLEA, right? Now saving people like you from death row. Now the NITCOM boss's response to the troll had however continued to generate mixed reactions from all Twitter users while some berated her for using such language saying a diplomat like her shouldn't have responded in that manner. Others are full of praise for the NITCOM boss. A former minister of education in Nigeria, obvious sequesterly, who retweeted the post described it as messy and asked her to clean it up. Dear Abikeh Dabri, what is this? Kai, this is messy. Please clean it up quickly. Please responding to now, that's what she quoted because I'm reading everybody's quotes small small. Now responding to the former minister of education, Abikeh Dabri then said, is not the said is not the type of public holder that succumbs, that she's not the type of public holder that succumbs to online bullying and won't clean up the post. She added that if it was okay for the guy to refer to her as Mumu, there should not be a problem if she returned the favor and insulted the guy calling him or there. Now today we're addressing the situation and we're asking was her reaction to the troll on social media necessary? How do you see that reaction? We all know that internet never forgets anything, especially when it comes to hate speeches. So we are asking should her position have influenced her response, right? That's the conversation for tonight. Now please let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081-803-8466-3. You can also see that as a way to after one has shared with you. Who is your day here? It's going to respond to me. Okay, so these things there. I wish Enoma was here. Enoma was supposed to join us on social, online. I don't know if she's there, but you see there's something she's always saying about consideration, right? That sometimes you must always put yourself at the next person's shoes, right? So this habit of always going online because I've heard my own fair share. For me, I'm very, you see, let me tell you something. How I respond to things like this. Honestly speaking, you can't catch me because I am blind. I am deaf. I'm dumb. I don't even bother like I see it. I see it. I just move past. But some people delete the tweets. I don't even delete the tweets. I just leave it there. Continue. You know your finger that you used to type it. You'll be okay. I know what pains them the most when you don't respond. Right? So I mean, so I don't understand why somebody in a because debris status sees that kind of a tweet, right? And says, no, she's bored enough. I'll be watching they call and she does not cover. That's not covered eyes. Right? Sometimes silence is the best response to things like this. But hey, who am I to judge? Because I don't know the kind of one that I will be insulting me that I will meet to tomorrow. My brain will touch. But hey, let me hear your thoughts ladies. What were your your initial like response or reaction when you saw that back and forth going on on social media today? Let me come to you Chinalo. Okay, so first I was like, how about why did you have to call him one day? You know, but then I thought about it again. He called him. So that was probably like hard. What they call that in reflex. You know, but then let's go back to we know. Okay, maybe I shouldn't put it that way. But I think I've case a very outspoken human being. So I'm guessing that's why she actually reacted in the manner that she did. But then also I saw it's with someone responding and said something about stereotyping. Why did you have to bring in caring drugs? Because he lives in Indonesia. I don't think that was right. So I think that's where she actually messed up completely. It's okay if she had just responded to him and you know, said whatever she said and then moved on. But then now it was very clear that she was out to, you know, deal with the guy because even after obviously reached out and said, you know, clean up the mess, she said, what mess are you talking about? And I mean, I read that in her voice and in Obie's voice as well. What mess are you talking about? When he was calling me, where were you? Didn't you hear that? And then she didn't stop at that and not be decided. Okay, you know what? Your choice. Go ahead and do whatever it is you want to do. And she still went ahead and responded again. And I'm like, Sister, don't you have work to do? What's happening? So, you know, I have mixed feelings about him. The first bit, the guy shouldn't have, there are so many cyberbullies out there. He shouldn't have said that to her. But I think that was also coming from what had happened not too long ago with, I think he was in care or kangaroos or something like that. Something that happened in the secondary school or something and had sweets about that wasn't particularly nice. So I think it was all of the grudges that people have held from that sweet that made that guy respond to her that way. But all you know, you're a diplomat. Sometimes, hold your peace. It's not sometimes. All the time. All the time, hold your peace. You know that saying that they say that if a king, right, is seated and a scorpion walks, um, crawls into his shoes, even with this thing, you go sit down there quiet, you act like nothing has happened. Because I don't, I don't understand why somebody in your position of leadership, right? Now, somebody will be questioning me that, oh, I should not allow to vent. No, you are not allowed to vent. People have called me all sorts of names. I just keep quiet and I move on. You know, these things really, nothing means anything except the meaning you give to it. So you are the one that has given a meaning to it that you have said that, OK, this thing is an insult to me. You call me Mumu. It's for your pocket. You call me your day. It's for your pocket. But let me hear your thoughts and I'll come to you, Mary. All right. That, you know, that statement you made a few seconds ago is very apt. Nothing, nothing has any meaning apart from the meaning you give it, meaning things are important as you take it. So whatever you make important, if the insults you make, if you personalize it, then it becomes that's why she went personal on him, because I'm sure over the course of her work with government, I'm sure that she has been called a lot more than this. Yes. I'm sure she has been represented in more negative ways than this. So why this? So and another thing is that I understand from the part from a human angle that sometimes people say things and you're probably having a bad day or it just rubs you off the wrong way. But one of the most important etiquettes of social media of handling, you know, being a part of social media and actually using social media is you have to think before you post a back and forth conversation like this between an ordinary Nigerian, I'm sorry to say, or someone who on a regular day would be inconsequential to her life and her progress. And having that back and forth based on her state and looking back at her status, you wonder, it makes you wonder a lot of things. I saw one of the comments and someone said we're running a country of I think that like this is an animal farm and we're being ruled by animals. And it got me off the wrong way because yes, because sometimes you can be affected by what people say, but how you allow it to affect you and what you say thereafter is what shows people who you truly are and how you're able to take it up. That's the situation. You're in a public office, you're a public servant. You should know that everything you do and say is a representation of the government that you work for. Yes. So when you're having that kind of back and forth, it's almost like Nigeria is having that kind of back and forth. And I know a lot of people support it, but in a couple of years, I don't know why people don't think about what would happen when in a couple of years, your information is punched into the Internet and people, things like this come up and pop up. You know, it's interesting because Chinelo took this story about the India right yesterday. That was your what's in the news when he talked about and I said something to you yesterday. I said, see, you think these guys are crazy? They are not. They see everything. And because he's online, we, we, they carry our dirty linens and we put them online. They see how our Nigerian government respond to things when things happen. They see how the back and forth, all of these things, they are seeing it. So tomorrow, if there's an issue, you understand? And the government is supposed to fix it. They can't fix it because if their own government treats them anyhow, we too will just continue suits, right? But let me hear your thoughts, Mary. May I initial thought when you saw this? It's a case of she should have been a bigger person. I was annoying as that sounds, but yes, she has more to lose than the person behind. Besides, she knows, she doesn't know who's behind that Twitter account. She holds a public office and she should be careful of what she tweets out there. By the time Obie had replied her, I think that was a little bit caution for her to, you know, just, just leave it, just let it be. It's annoying, but why would you go back and forth and be fighting? It's not necessary. I don't think it's necessary. There are some things, like you said, silence is really the best answer. That's the mature response to this. You'll get to a point where it's even the followers that will be rooting for you to say, ah, you say, why would you call this woman a mumu? You know, you know the work that you're putting for the country. You know the work that you're putting for people in diaspora. So why do you need to come and be exchanging words with some nobody who are you even sure is really in Indonesia? So, you know, you know, again, you don't understand, you're not even sure that is, you know, you don't know who's behind the account. So, you know, the problem that I think Abikeh's position, Diabere's position is, you know, already Nigerians in the diaspora feel very neglected. They've had series of issues. Is it from the Dubai matter that they couldn't get their passports or they couldn't get visas or they couldn't return home? They, so her seat is a hot seat, right? Is a hot bed because a lot of Nigerians want to, by all means, go outside of the country. And most of them end up like she rightly pointed out. Most of them right end up at the wrong side of the law. You know, is it that they have illegal documentation? So many issues. So she's already at a position where it only takes a high level of empathy and understanding she does not have the liberty to burn out or to shout or to scream because you are in a position where already people are frustrated, you know. So if somebody comes and calls you a mumu, right Abikeh, do you understand? All you need to do, you look at yourself in the mirror. See, I tell people that the three things I do not joke with, right? My mind, my life, my mirror. Why mirror is in that equation? It's because if you call me today and say, you are a dance, have a look at myself in the mirror. What do you see? Am I a dance? I'm not a dance. And I move on. And that's why it is very easy for me not to respond to trolls. So I don't understand that you have grown to that level in your position, in your capacity. You already know that the position you occupy is quite heavy. A lot of Nigerians are out to get a woman. Honestly, let's even leave jokes aside. Let's leave that. OK, she's out. She's this. Everybody, if there's any little thing that happens that is linked to diaspora, Abikeh that brings names all over the place, right? She already knows. So I understand that she might just be overwhelmed by the back and forth and backlash she's always getting. But that's why you are on that seat, right? That is what your position. You see, the thing is that you cannot pick the seat and leave the pain. You will collect both the pleasure and the pain that comes with the seat. You know, so how would you as a as a government official? And like you rightly said, NJ, when she is responding, she's not responding as Abikeh Dabri. Anyway, she's responding as the Nigerian representative. So what people are seeing, and that's why they will continue to tag it back to the failed government. And that is on one hand the position she occupies. The fact that the Nigerian government to the eye of the average Nigerian, the young Nigerian, they believe that this government has failed woefully. That is another battle she then needs to fight. So that's why you shouldn't even put yourself in a position where you begin to go back and forth with these people. So I don't understand. Like, I mean, is it is it just me or is something that people just people have been called names? When Jesus Christ said in the Bible, I have to bring it now to the Bible. When they slap you here, what do you do? It didn't tell you that you should return the slap. Do you understand? It was it was said for a specific reason, right? Because provocation is never in a shortage. When it comes to provocation, there will always be provocation. And because the quality in the in the country, the situation in the country is already heated. So you should expect as a government official, anywhere you are, they will fish you out and they will lash at you. You know, so I am tired of our government official always putting us in a bad light. You know, I get her pain and I'm trying to I'm not trying to be insensitive to the fact that she's actually under a lot of pressure. But you see, in that pressure, you must be able to take control yourself and curtail what it is that you type because it is your hand. Before you type and type and type and you go read that. Before you click post, you go see. Read down. Do you understand? So why would you leave it there and say you are not part of the people that will cover to whatever? So now let me even bring it back to responses. Right. I don't believe that she sees a tweet. She does not have the luxury to respond. She can respond. Recently, I've been going back and forth with someone on an email, you know, what I do the mail respectfully. You know how British man, we tell you to go and die that you look. Oh, my God, you know. Do you understand? So there is a there it's what's called. There's an etiquette. Yeah, to it to it to it. There is the wordings that you will use that you will not even understand. That's what we actually think. She will rethink and look at himself. So there are communication tools that people have looked at and said, you know what? They are right language to respond to trolls like that. So when she when she did that, what she just did, she brought herself to the mud and they are now fighting dirty like pigs. And now when when somebody comes, we don't know who is the pig and who is the human being because both of them are all covered in mud, you know? So it's a way to respond to messages like that. But I think for me, she just, you know, completely she lost it for me, but a lot of self-control on her. And because like we can all see for her position, there's a standard etiquette, there's a standard way of behaving. You can't you can't just say anything you want to say. Because like I said, you represent a government. You represent people. So playing on the same level as someone who is you don't even know who is behind the account. That's the thing. The account is not even, you know, a verified account. You know these things that they say, you give me to me, I give you both. That's what is happening. She's going to learn from this kid. He never responds to it. I don't know how he doesn't respond to anything. There's nothing you want to say to him. You just have to learn how to have a to go and think skin for things like this. Because if not, you react to everything. Absolutely. I want people to know that you're a reactor. They will keep talking about it. Yeah. I'll take a break. I want to hear our audience on this matter. I want a BKW fans. Please don't insult me. Because me. Let me just tell you now, when we'll be right back. Alright, thanks for staying with us. Let me just tune in with our ladies night out. And our honorable BKW is on the hot seat, right? We're discussing her reaction to thralls on social media, thralls on social media now. Please let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081-803-4663. You can also tweet at us at Weshaw Africa One with the hashtag Weshaw. Now, our phone line is now open. The number to call is 070-25-007749. Remember the rules. Please turn off the volume of your television set. No insults, please. We cut you off. Yeah, I know how to cut people off. But how would you react to thralls on social media? Now, let's bring it back to ourselves, right? Let's keep a BKW away for a bit, right? How would you react to thralls online? And would you say that as a representative of the government, do you think it was right for her to air her mind just like that and, you know, call the guy another day? Because she was called Imumu. I mean, not be so. So let's hear your thoughts. The number to call again is 070-25-007749. All right, so, I mean, I've had confrontations, right? People just, you know, want to attack and all of that. And, you know, the reason I know that this can never be me is not because I've not lived it, right? I've had, like, physical confrontation, not even online. They did the online one. I ignored it and the physical one. And, you know, it didn't just take because that's not me, right? I don't know how to go back and forth. I don't know how to... I'd rather just stay quiet, stay silent. I don't say anything, right? I suppose just come in and attack in. And so, because now when I see people do this kind of things, it tells me the kind of person you are, right? And it's not so much of the person on the other side of the key fold that somebody says something and you respond like that. It means that there is also an element of what that person has on their inside that is also inside of you, right? But what are your thoughts? Would you respond? I think we have a call. I'm a bit lost. We have a caller. I'm sorry. Hello. Good evening. Yeah, good evening, ladies. Thank you for calling. Yeah, Steven. Who? From my mind. Yes. That woman is a journalist. Okay. She works in NTA. Haven't become a politician representing the government. She should be able to absorb this stuff. So, I have to tell journalists what is expected so that people not react. She's one of the privileged journalists coming from NTA and today a politician. No, not a amount of robots or whatever one that is given to her that she should not be able to accommodate. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. That's interesting. It says... And you know, that's also the pain that people have with Avikadabri because they had so much hope, you know, expectations, the work she did as a journalist. So, it just... And that's the anger that she's not seeing. She's just seeing trolls. But people are actually bitter because they felt she betrayed, you know, the Nigerian people that so much believed in her when she was going into politics. And all of a sudden because she was whining and dining with politicians, she became one of them. And all of a sudden, they could do no wrong in her eyes. These were the same people she had actually called out in the past and all of that. I think, so that's why I'm saying that when you see things like that, it is deeper. You can't just wake up and then now say you want to just be attacking and insulting. So, I mean, there's... And that's why you see people would now say, okay, there's a bit of guilt because it means that they are telling you and it's hitting home, right? So, I mean, you should just plainly ignore or better still. Yeah. So, you did your best. But let's take some comments. We have some comments. Go ahead, Mary. I think we have a caller quickly. First of all, then, Mary, you take a comment. Chowson Potako, thank you for calling. Good evening, Wah. Good evening, ladies. Hi, thank you for calling. Yeah. So, I be care that very... What I was very unfortunate is such reaction from her. It's least expected. I mean, for somebody of her set to. But I wasn't really surprised because I believe she has a temperament issue because I could recall, there was a video that trended some time ago when she had an altercation with David Ounday over one Nigerian that died in Abidjan. I think that the... I think she wasn't aware that that retu-station where she was having that interview was being recorded or so. So, immediately, David called. She was trying to tell the lady there that she should put it up, put it up, put it up. And the lady refused and allowed David to continue speaking. So, while the communication was going on, there was a very serious verbal altercation with David and her. So, which I was really surprised, somebody of her set to, to be having this kind of conversation. I mean, it was surprising to me, the kind of people we have in authority. And I was really very unfortunate when we had this kind of people in authority. What does this speak for our image outside this country? I mean, you could imagine the government official, Adam Mata. Nigerians are really going through outside. I mean, Nigerians in the outside are really going through a lot. And for her to be coming up, even when the minister of education tried to call her to order, she went ahead. I mean, that was still, that was really, really very unfortunate coming from the government official. She said, people in government were supposed to be serving us. And not just looking at ourselves, I think maybe we are living on their back and core. That's really very unfortunate. That's not the way, that's not the way, I mean, the government has been done on the other part of the world. Thank you, ladies. Good evening. Thank you so much. You see that the matter is deeper than, that we, you know, so, and that's what she's failing to realize that it's not about you. Right? So, people have, she in particular, people have watched her political journey. And how it seems like every single time, you know, you always want to defend something that you, we clearly can see that maybe something is going wrong, but you still look at it and trying to find, so that's where I think she's not seeing that picture. So when you see this kind of attack, it is not even, it's not advised that you would, just look away and just move quietly. But, hey, I'm not her advisor. The internet never, never. Never. Go ahead. I became a devry, need come for a great journalist when she was working with NTA and a politician that was once a lawmaker. She just got a national award last week from President Bawari, or they means Mu Mu, Wawa in Hausa. She was tempted and she fell into the trap so easily. Meanwhile, her party APC wants us to vote them again. Abike should retrieve that with these. Bobby Kennedy, Jaleen, go to her other stage. Thank you. We have one more. My first time actually, but first thing to understand is the best of a human is human. You can't keep trying tantrums at people, feeling everyone has the chest to take it. She is in a position where she sees how frustrating it is to represent Nigerians in diaspora and still gets in such a comment. She has been received more, she has been received more of those trolls, she has received more of those trolls which are responding. So there must be a frustrating factor in that speech. I know, because she has, and in her position, that woman is. I understand it's a tough position, but... I mean, there's something called public relations skills. For you to hold that kind of position in the government in the first place, you need to possess very strong public relations skills. And I think that's where she's... I mean, there's no human being that's perfect, but then she's lacking that seriously. She needs to, she really needs to learn that. Okay, my comment here says, the difference between you and the pig after a fight in the mod is that the pig enjoys lobs and leaps for birth. Don't be a pig. Just learn to deal with trolls. We'll come with a lot of type, self-discipline and self-control. Own who you are, no matter the situation or circumstances that presents itself. Well done, ladies. You live the life. Well, this is from Nama. Hi, Nama. She doesn't look ahead. Okay. Austin from Delta says, I became unformed by hand. A diplomat of her standing shouldn't descend that low, even when another Amazon I admire for her brain and astuteness will be advised her. She shone her hava. Please ask her if she gets to the river, kept her clothes and is having a bath. Can she run out and get to poetry in Madman who dashed the way with her clothes? That's a deep question. That's a really deep question. That's a recommendation. Please recommend any part of this content to her. Braceful of common sense. How do you manage to be cool at the time, all the time? And then the other person is saying, I don't get into admins with stupid people. I just cut the shot and say, Yeah, you're right. You're right. But that is completely irrational. I said, oh, you are right. That's it. Let me take young guys' old man, your life. I have to tell you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I can't say the exact same thing. Okay, we will. Go, go. My problem with the madam, she needs to understand that every appointment is political when it comes to presidency. And she's part of that. And with the way things are happening, it's only the few that are getting small, small, a lot are recharged from them. We smile over them. But for me, if I'm going to advise her, she should stop handling most of her social media accounts. If I'm a small boy, I will get away with the host. They give me 20 or 25 K every month. Make it the handle of those things for you. Before everyone reply, you go to show your mother and say, this is what they talk about. Give her, look, we take her. By then you are calm. Some of these tweets can come to you when you are in need, starting when you are in need. It's a kind of pressure or you are trying to handle something or you're afraid to do. You all come up with your hands. As soon as they see the tweet, you go on call the client. So something I think people should go more professional. She's already big. She's getting the funds. She should learn how to do what to cause division of labor. So this is what you get when you don't divide your labor. So for me, I would advise her as rightly, but she got it wrong. You understand? You are there to stop the people and you just have to understand that some people, they would like to pour their frustration on you. So it's time to... In fact, they don't even know who is the handler. Maybe it's your background neighbor that is busy there, pumping those things to see how far you are. But people should understand and be more intelligent in this time and I would at this week and time my error, the error and time. Other than that, sure. Somebody should advise her. Get one small... You know, the way all these employees say they work for computer now, they will help you on the situation. But if you start more professional and your name will be there, before they shoot, they will ask you, you check in and out, check the back of the everything and know if it's the exact person. Even a computer will try that thing for you. So they should be calming down. That's all I need to say. Absolutely. God, you are the best. Almost one hour. Sorry. Sorry. You know, I mean, Mary had said it that you don't even know who is behind that keypad. Like, you don't understand... I don't know how you respond to people. Really, I don't know how to respond to. I've seen messages on my social media where they just say, work up, just move. I don't have that time, right? Someone says, I felt for her, but that's the imperfection of a human, right? But this comment, what can you say that she has saved the lives of many good-for-nothing people? That's wrong. You see, that's the thing. You're using fire to quench fire. It's not going to work, right? You see, that's the point I'm trying to make with her is, if you really wanted to solve this problem, right? First of all, I don't see you can't respond. You can respond, but you can respond in a very decent way that the person will go and think of ways to respond back to you. But let me take Austin from Delta. Then I'll come back. Austin, you're alive. Yeah, Austin, I'm from Benin. Oh, from Benin! Oh, yeah. Thank you for calling. Okay, so I'm just reading you, Julie Duchy's comment on CISA now. He is saying that if someone calls you a mumu woman, you go class for a mabi. So, the thing is, if someone is a government official, then everybody should be calling himself on them. It doesn't make any sense now. Let us not criticize her so much. If also, she was under some kind of pressure at that particular time. And I know even though maybe this person is one person that is very jealous of her achievement and everything, and then you... Why would you call a married woman a mother mumu woman? It doesn't make sense. But Austin, let me ask you a question. And this is where we're coming from with this conversation. If somebody... If I called you a mumu now, how would they come up to you? My point is, if you are not... What's it called? You know clearly that you're not a mumu. Some things you can just ignore. You don't have to respond to every troll. That's my point. It's not like we're attacking her. We know, and that's why I try to establish how difficult her position is. That position, she has gotten more backlash than any government official. So I'm saying, would you, if you are calling a mumu now, would you accept it? Or would you just look away? In this society, let me tell you, in this society, people get envoys of one another. It's a very common thing in this society. It's someone who is just jealous of her achievement and what have you. You know, just wants to insult her, just like that. It's not good now. Okay. Alright, thank you. We should not just condemn her like that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank your people. Oh, sugar. Okay, sorry. How about that? You know? When we look at it now, I understand where it's coming from. But who has more to lose? Hmm. Who has more to lose now? The person is just sitting down in the water. You understand? But now your name is all over the place. And you know, everyone is... It would have been a silent situation. In fact, it's the people who will be fighting for you. You understand to say, and why would you call this kind of person a mumu? But now, people that... It's not as if we're not supporting her. We don't see that she's putting in an effort. But it's just all your efforts now goes to waste. Everybody, they won't look at any other thing. Because... They won't look at any other thing. Yeah. Except from that. Absolutely. Which is just really sad. Which is really sad. That's what we're saying. We're not attacking her. We're just trying to say that. Something just look away. Let me take a comment from Daniel Illo. Good evening, my dear beautiful sisters of water. You say in ways. Honorable Abike W. Erewa has fallen in my hand. And let me down badly. She's occupying a very big office in government. And there are things you should not say in public. You know what? She overreacted. Sister Erewa gave a very simple example using the mirror. She said that it is... It is not what people say that matters. Right? Say you are that matters. But who you think you are. And God thinks you are. Now Honorable Abike W. Erewa should be careful with her utterances. Where are my two beautiful ladies? Nicholas and Isiya Fodile. They also resumed. Don't worry. And my... No, no. They also resumed. They are actually on a very long training. My name is Daniel Illo. You are Waze Regula fan. This will be back. And Jennifer is coming back. Finally to Lagos. I love Ma from RBI Belief. Thank you for calling. Good evening, my sister. Good evening. Thank you for calling. Good evening. I want to let us know. There was a time in the Bible. Jesus said at the disciple, Who do men say I am? When you are occupying an important position, try to know what people are saying about you. Any reaction, any negative reaction can destroy the personality. See, just look at an example. One of the callers did. Abike W. Erewa reacted in the speech. So from that, not everybody say who you are when you are occupying an important position. On one side, you call yourself to other. Because if you want to call yourself to other, because you are occupying an important position, before you know it will destroy your personality. So if you have this opportunity to tell Abike W. Erewa, please, let your position count for me. Thank you very much. Thank you. We are begging her. So we are just saying that Abike W. Erewa, right? We understand the pain that you are going through. Your position in Nigeria is one of the toughest. Because every little thing that we see that happens in anything that is linked to diaspora, whether I consign her, you know consign her, they will put her inside the matter. So I understand why she will get to that point where she is reactive. But at the same time, like Mary rightly said, people behind the key part, they have nothing to lose. She is the one, now it's her name that is all over the place. Do I remember the 100 of the person that said the thing? I can't even remember who said the mumu. When we take Richard, then we take our comment and we wrap up the conversation. Richard, you are live. Hello, Erewa. Hi, Richard. Kwanabiu. Ah, Kwanabiu. Okay, sharp sharp. That's something that she just turned 60. That was one. And again, she just got a national award. That's two. Do you know people in public office, they need crash courses on emotional intelligence. Thank you. One thing I just want to say here is that wisdom is not the sole preserve of the aged. Have a fantastic night, my ladies. Thank you so much. What a way to wrap it up. Thank you. And it is really lacking in our leadership, emotional intelligence. I think this thing he said about Crash Course, we should go and call Biola Champ. He's the king of emotional intelligence. Let him go and do crash courses for them in the public. Someone says she has made a big mistake, but honestly she won't repeat it again as Rafael. Absolutely, I believe so. Because I think she didn't even expect how this was going to turn out. Like you rightly said, it's her name that is everywhere. But quickly, we have another caller. Oh my God, we have John. You are live. Go ahead quickly. I have like a minute to this. Johnson, you are live. Johnson. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm Johnson. Go ahead. Go ahead, yeah. Yes, so I want to contribute to what you are saying. Okay, what I want to contribute is that people should not be judgmental about the VKW because somebody is already in a public position. People should not be abusing technology by just abusing people and passing the soil to a grandmother. You should call a grandmother, so we should be very clear in our judgment that people should know how to use technology and abuse social media to abuse everybody people, responsible people, because it's holding a public something. So anybody called grandmother can just be abusing her in such a way. We should be clear in our judgment. That's what I want to say. Thank you so much, Johnson. I like what you have said. And I want to also repeat it that they will always be true on social media. The bigger person should take the high way. You know, Michelle Obama said something. When they go low, you go high. And that is what you must understand as a public official. The kind of trolling that Donald Trump did to Michelle and Obama. If they wanted to reply, the way of VKW is right. They are not going to remember Donald Trump the way that we read them. Now, Michelle Obama, so that's the thing. Nobody will remember anybody else. Let's take our comments and we move. Okay, so this person says, remember when Macron was slapped in public, he was calm but the offender eventually got arrested. It's unfortunate that people who are hurt always look for opportunities to hurt others. That's where empathy, understanding, that is knowing that the other person doesn't know better and wisdom comes into view. Well, not everyone knows they are normal. People are already tense and any situation can trigger them. What needs to be done is for people. And in this case, Madam W needs to learn emotional intelligence. Or for her peers to book an appointment with me. She's been on normal. Normal, if I'm not wrong. I need to try to sell your markets. Thank you. But thank you. I think we've had it fantastical. The phone line is still busy. More than obvious. We've ended the matter. Please do not come and follow us. But you can follow us on social media. Don't follow us also. Thank you, Chinelo, NJ and Mary. Follow us on Instagram, everywhere social media. Like, share, invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation. Abike W Erewa, we really love you. And please, please, just rise above some of these things. Your position is actually tough. We understand. But you must not respond to people that are just out to call up your skin, right? So if you miss today's quote, here it is again. In this digital age, open discussions and freedom of speech, right? Or freedom of expression are always welcome online, but not when it is reckless, irresponsible or harmful to others, right? So we acknowledge and recognize that there will always be reckless people. Your own is to just be the higher person. We'll see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m. Let's bring another great conversation. We're discussing the flooding situation. Make sure to tune in. David Houdain will be here. Stay with us. Abi, we'll see you tomorrow. I said, stay with us.