 Hello, everybody. Welcome to another awesome episode of esoteric Atlanta. I have Cindy back again from sacred garden yoga You guys loved last time she was here as do I and I love these special guests that I have come on That are really gonna be Transformative in the way we walk into this new timeline or this new age of Aquarius that we're entering into leaving the age of Pisces behind and transferring into a new age and As you all know as we transfer into a new age the veil begins to lift and we start to rediscover Who we really are sometimes that's fun Sometimes that's not so fun But it all comes down to your work And so we're gonna start off talking a little bit more about that that's gonna lead to another fun Subject that kind of goes with being able to see more and to understand Your own perceptions more. How are you today Cindy? Great. Thank you for having me here again. It's such a pleasure being with you and your piece Yep, we're just a family on this channel We're gonna start off because Cindy and I actually as I've told you guys before out of all the people I work with on YouTube most of the people I work with on YouTube. I've never met in real life I feel like I know them because we do so many zooms together But Cindy it was my friend before YouTube even started I teach at first her awesome studio in Marietta I shouldn't even call it a studio. It's a yoga school. It's literally what she's running is literally a yoga school Which is what it should be and so she is the best person to kind of help people Start to understand how to examine yourself as you move into this new new new age And so one of the questions we got Cindy and I thought this was an awesome question We talk a lot about the shadow work And that's a big thing for people who are used to doing their own spiritual work regardless of whether it's yoga or another Discipline the shadow work comes up a lot and I think sometimes I forget that other people don't really again know what that is We know what that is so maybe we can first start by Re-explaining what shadow work is and then somebody asked how does one start doing shadow work What's the first step in on that long journey? Yeah, it's a great question. Well, you know the term shadow or shadow work was originally coined by Carl Jung psychologist back in the day because he realized that a person's psyche was very much determined by Aspects of themselves that they have pushed down or repressed or haven't looked bad or rejected about themselves And so he coined the term shadow work as a way of going into yourself and finding and reclaiming those pieces and parts that push down So, you know, his work is very much along though the subconscious level and we talk about I'm sure most people are hard about like the conscious mind and the subconscious part of ourselves the conscious mind is a part that we know that we we're in the conscious mind and a lot of times when we're asking For things to come into fruition or we're wanting to manifest No, we we manifest very often from the conscious part of our mind, which is only the tip of the iceberg Where the subconscious it is most of what we are and it has a lot more magnetism than the conscious mind So shadow work is a process of making the subconscious conscious The subconscious again since it has more magnetism than the conscious mind When it where we're working with our own awakening and then you know Just start manifesting and how we're wanting to show up in the world How we want to share our gifts with the world how we want to help this planet during this transitional period that we're going through making Uniting our conscious and subconscious mind. In other words, it's what we would call uniting your will So in other words on your conscious mind, you might have like this deep deep, you know, you're you're saying Oh my gosh, you know, I want all this beautiful stuff to happen in my life But if in your subconscious mind Your self-sabotaging yourself, you're saying something like well, it's you're not worth it or No, you can't you're afraid of your own power That's actually a big huge one for spiritual people and light workers. They're afraid of their own power They're afraid of their own light And so these are the fears that start to get pushed down and then your will becomes divided if that makes sense So your conscious mind is saying yes, I want all these beautiful things But that's only this much part of you But your subconscious mind which is like this big is saying well now that's too scary Don't go there. You have to come out of hiding You know, you'll actually have to face yourself You're gonna have to do the work and you know, that's just too much. So let's not let's not do it Let's stay small because smaller is more comfortable Mm-hmm, and that's where the work is. So again, the shadow work is about Pulling up all those beliefs and ideas or last time we talked about trauma responses You know pulling up any of those emotional responses that are still holding in your body That's holding you small and holding you in fear and they're bringing the light of your awareness on it So you're not fighting yourself, right? In other words, all of you every single part of you is Going toward your highest destination instead of you being divided into pieces and parts And I will place guys if you missed the episode that we the previous episode we did with Cindy I'm gonna place that in the description box below So if that's something you want to go back and rewatch or even if you watched it that time I just need to go back to refresh your memory I'm gonna place that there as well because it is almost like inside of you. You're you're playing this tug-of-war. Yes, sometimes the Subconscious is way more overpowering than the conscious. It's like the fat kid playing tug-of-war against the skinny kid The weight is not even and most people understand that idea of self sabotage We're just and the hard thing I find about shadow work And this is why practices like yoga and other forms of spiritual practices are actual practices Is because sometimes we don't even know what that shadow is So that's my subconscious. Yeah, it's we're so out of touch with that And I will say at least from my experience in the however many years I've been doing my Practice, you know people have this idea when you do a spiritual practice that it's all beautiful and light and you're just relaxed all the time But most of the time you're having to shine a flat a flashlight on some really ugly parts of yourself And that's hard and to realize how much that you've um been nasty to yourself Yeah, like where that comes from and healing that part of yourself in order to then Equalize it if that makes sense. Yeah, it's not a pleasant experience these days the whole shadow work thing is becoming more of a Trend I mean that's not a bad thing, but I think sometimes folks don't realize that it's gonna get ugly When you go into and to prepare yourself for that I mean you can do it you can handle it, but it's not like this room I think something like anything like how yoga gets romanticized when you're talking about like yoga is this Blissful thing where you're just going to be all happy and peace and blissed out and zoned out all the time um And it's actually the shadow part the shadow when you're doing yoga. I think that's very much But is there any kind of spiritual practice? It is the the process of making the subconscious conscious whenever that happens It's going to get a little you know a little marley a little salty Yeah, no, it's like it's like opening up pandora's box sometimes And I know we say this like in the system of yoga that I practice and teach You have a specific already pre choreographed um asanas that every which is a posture that everyone has to do And they're pretty complicated and difficult and so immediately you're forced to kind of pull You see it in people like you see it immediately like the the the the side of them that that wants to run Um where they would just run away from it Actually, they have to stay and it has to become evident And it has and they have to be presented with that and so You know and you see it as a teacher when people are all of a sudden like in that moment You see the frustration and the anger and it has absolutely nothing to do with the teacher or the practice itself It's everything to do with what's coming out of you and and you're your duty And your job as the student is not to project that then take it and throw it on someone else But actually pull it out and look at it and try to start the process of almost healing it Which it's not a quick fix guys. It doesn't happen overnight It's it can be a long long journey of trying to Connect the two and and do that shadow work to move forward What are some of the gnarly experiences that you've had Cindy if you want to share of of your own shadow work? Oh my gosh Well, you start to get Probably one of the the deeper deeper ones when I had more of that dark night You know like when you have a like a true dark night Of the soul. Yeah um It was it was actually with My relationship with my husband we were going through just a really challenge and we've been married for um 20 years So, you know, it's normal, you know, when you're in a relationship for a long time things are going to happen and Just an answer also to the question of the person who was asking How do you begin shadow work? It can happen anywhere can happen. It can be triggered by relationships It can be triggered by um, just like you go any any time you're going into the this world With the idea that you want to awaken It's going to pull you into the stuff that you don't want to look at yourself And so it can be triggered by your work and be triggered by relationships. It can be triggered by not just your Partner relationships, but children's relationships. It can be triggered by so many things Yeah, but anyways at that point in my life, it was it was definitely triggered by Uh, the the situation of my husband and I were going through And when it did It pulled up so many issues inside of me that had to do with like just deep deep senses of like the trail and Abandonment that was even beyond what he and I were going through right and Then to have to to look at how My relationship with him pulled up all the the sense of betrayal and abandonment No from from my real father and then from not just From that I went through but then from what like my mother went through and my grandmother because there's a lot of repeating patterns that happen And by the way, that's another thing Uh when you're doing shadow work Like how do you know where to start with your shadow things that repeat in your family line? That's another good way to look at and see well, what's what's What situations are repeating not just with me, but you know what happened to my mom or happened to my grandfather happened to my father or happened to you know To someone in my family So that's another good way to look at where your shadows are So anyways, I brought up like every sense of feeling of All that and I felt myself literally shattered And that you're I mean I was literally shattered I could feel the shattering and I was uh I remember I was here in my home and I was walking up the stairs and I knew I was like, okay I'm gonna walk up these stairs I'm gonna go into that bed in my bedroom and I knew Something was going to happen. It's like I just knew it and it was in that moment that everything did just kind of shatter inside and um It was when you're having like a dark night, you know, how they say Do one day at a time one day is too long. Yeah It's Just simply one breath. Let's take one breath. Okay, if you can get if you can survive this one breath You can survive the next breath You can survive the next breath Yeah, um, so very often the the shadow or it or is it for me it will create a little shattering But it's also the shattering of The ego of it's a mini death shadow where it becomes like this mini death experience Where all of your hurts and pains from this lifetime and many lifetimes will come up And we'll show how it's entrenched in your body and in your dna Absolutely And I mean and that experience that stays with you for a little while and then after a while you pick yourself up and You know, you can breathe again. It's not so much one breath at a time You can go back to one day at a time and then you can go back to um, you know Yeah I trust me. I absolutely I've been there and I liked what you said about like if your purpose You know, again, I know it sounds cliche, but it's truly truly true Especially as we go into this new age We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human experience and we make agreements Before we take our avatars. Yes, and if your agreement was to Grow in your consciousness Then you best believe the universe is going to hold you to that agreement and you're going to experience a lot of As our friend Tamara from Australia was saying, you know, you're going to sometimes people that have the biggest spiritual work in this world have had or have Have had horrific lives in a way because so many things were thrown at them For them to then pull it out of themselves and to grow in their consciousness if that makes sense Yeah, and so much of the shadow work is also about integrity And what a finding integrity within yourself when there is pulling yourselves all back together against that you can be full It's not so that you can just be Pure love and light right because they in your I mean in your divinity you you are that already But when you're having a combined divine and human experience It's wholeness And when you understand that part of your wholeness is your humanity And then when you understand that humanity is going to come with all sorts of levels of experiences and emotions and the dark experiences and when you can begin to Um, except like lean into it and accept that that's what you are that you are and Here's another thing with the the shadow work too that I think a lot of us don't like to look at You know, it's easy when well, it's not easy, but maybe it's a little easier When you see yourself as a victim Then when you look at all the places within you when you were a perpetrator Yeah, no one likes to look at how we've hurt other people or how maybe we have contributed But that's also part of your human experience too. I mean, you're going to come in and you're going to be victimized And you're you're going to be both right Absolutely when you can see that okay, this is part of my my evolution as a As a both spiritual and human being to know every single spectrum of the light that you are You're not just on the light side of the spectrum. You're also on the dark side of the spectrum Right, you're going to you're going to be every all of it. Right. So we reject You know, we push things into our subconscious. We'll reject the things That's one of the things is it any any time where we've been the perpetrator Or things are um emotions like jealousy. For instance, we don't like admitting like we're jealous or when we're envious Or when we are secretly wishing someone harm We're not saying it out loud like out loud. We'll be like, oh, I'm wishing you the best but inside there's just something like going Yep, you fail Like you don't like admitting to that kind of stuff But it's everyone feels it So yeah, you see for me and that's part of the shadow work too is Acknowledging when all that comes up instead of just pushing it down saying, oh my god, that's such an evil thing to think It's like, well, you know, it's a little it's a little dark But yeah, that's what humans do and acknowledging that Evil things but yeah, at least see that you have that emotion inside of you like You know, most people do right. Well, it's I've been saying this a lot on my channels too because we see this You know as most people where there's like two timelines playing out right now And it's becoming more and more and more and obvious and on one side of this board of this chess game That's happening as we transition into the timeline is we, you know, the word trigger has become a big trigger word And so people are now one thing that drives me crazy is that You know, people have to have so many disclaimers because we all want to trigger people And if if you're bigger than it's somebody else's fault for triggering you you guys your triggers are your your roadmap To your own understanding of the shadow work like when you're triggered first of all, it's nobody else's responsibility of what you're feeling inside of yourself That's something to show you. It's like a highlighter. It's like a highlighter highlighting Something that isn't Isn't really you're feeling that emotion and sometimes I say this to my students a lot, especially in the beginner courses I teach when we look at these repetitive thoughts or the shadow work sometimes It is just an emotion you feel like there might not even be a story you remember attached to it It's like an emotion that comes up around a certain Topic that you try to then suppress and that needs to be examined. So it's it's well Let me ask you this too. So we have people that are new on this spiritual journey that don't feel like they have a support system at their house or or what like Someone to have kind of help guide them into this work Would you be as a healer someone available to like help somebody over zoom like counsel them through this? Is that something you know, I mean that's I feel is one of my my greater gifts is actually Have because you know, I had to go through all those different that I mean that was only one experience that I went through Well, you know with my husband and you to Do the work as the helping people through their little shadowy stuff Yummy, I had to do the work myself. Right. Right. And I think about that was also I mean, it's one of my more Specialties, I guess you yes. No, it is. I know I can go I can go through the body And find those places that have been fragmented or disassociated or the things that we push down or the things that we Chosen to forget. I usually have the help of my spirit guides as well. I mean, I was also In a way initiated and I can't say I was really initiated by a particular human I mean, there might have been one person that helped me where The connection with the the sacred darker mothers like collie Lilith and all these other shadowy sacred mother goddess beings They very often come in and they're they're able to because you know if you work with collie She doesn't at all She comes in when You've been giving the hint in other words the the god has been telling you for a while Yeah, do this do this do this kind of gently that you've chosen to ignore it But then then collie will come in Especially if you're so praying like you're praying for awakening But there's a stubborn streak inside that most of us and you're not You're not going they're turning toward the direction that you should be She'll come in and we'll tear things apart for you Yeah, for the sake of your own awakening And so when we say that you're having a collie experience That means you're having the experience of disruption In your life when things are like that time with uh with my relationship with my husband that was a full on Collie experience where you just you know your life totally becomes disrupted Because you need a disruption because for some reason you're not getting it I like how you said that because there's like subtle for you. Yeah, there's subtle like when you're you know You always you know be careful what you wish wish for and like even in the bible It says ask and you shall receive knock and the door shall be opened unto you seek and you shall find When you're praying for this spiritual awakening and god the universe is giving you like a like a kiddie pool like kind of But you ignore it He's going to send something then that you can't ignore and someone an energy like collie It's not something you can just ignore it. It's it's no very much So so yeah, that's so for people who are Wanting to awaken and you're trying for it and you still haven't just wait That might come but that's one thing. I actually really appreciate about like the hindu faith I know like in the ramayana. This is a big aspect of like, you know us coming from the western world We're so inundated with the church Which is actually and cindy and I've talked about this off camera a lot And you guys know because we are going through the missing books on the bible The original christian faith was a very mystical faith. It was an extremely mystical faith That actually was very very similar to what you see in like hinduism and all these other eastern faiths. Um They Especially like with the ramayana. You see these concepts of like demons or these dark forces And you battle them in these stories, but they're also there to give feed you information Yeah, there's also a learning experience from this as well And I love that because when you do do spiritual work, you can't Understand the light until you've walked through the darkness in a lot of ways You know talking about those kind of sacred texts, even if you look at the bible of ita When shiva shows himself I think it's it's really the 11th the 13th chapter and he shows himself to arjuna And his he's deem. He's like a demon. Yeah It's frightening frightening like fire coming out Putrid and just all this stuff in arjuna is like begging him Please come back. Please show me the other way and it's what he's got point You know that arjuna realized. Oh my god. He's you know, he's like he he means it. This is the real deal and um that this idea of Shiver god It's pretty full spectrum. You know, it's not just This one aspect, especially when we come into to our human form that um That's why we came into human form is is to know and to understand and to make peace with things like death Yeah, yeah, and that's that was the big thing with in the body By my need to with arjuna is this concept of death And that's a big thing our mortality And and that's what a lot of yoga students, especially in the ashtanga world That actually is a huge trigger because all of a sudden we all know that we're going to pass away We all know that in our minds. We know that we're not forever But when you start to do this work And again, it doesn't happen overnight It's like this slow pulling back when you really start to realize your mortality Like you really start to get it and you really start to understand the human you are Is not going to be around forever And what is that? You know and that is a that that kind of causes a bit of an ego death and kind of gives you a dark night of the Soul where people start to kind of been Dive into this the shadow of themselves. Um, britchard freeman who is a Pretty famous senior ashtanga teacher and he used to say that Really we're preparing for death is what we're doing when we're taking on a spiritual practice in a lot of ways We're just preparing for that so that we can enter into that realm that we don't want to discuss as human beings Because that itself can be shadow that itself can be a taboo You know and and that's what I laugh when you talk about arjuna because if y'all haven't read the bug bugita throughout the whole book He's like begging to see the full extent and when he finally gets what he wants. He's like no, no And one thing I love about arjuna like in this story too Speaking of the shadow work and like the misconceptions we have on this and spirituality when we're coming from the west The whole bug about gita arjuna if y'all don't know the story he's standing on the battlefield and he's facing off between People that he's loved in his life family members teachers and he has to go to war For this like piece of land basically and I think it's christina is the avatar It's like talking to him and like coaxing and basically like it's like a come to jesus moment but it's you know it's a different avatar and And arjuna's kind of looking for some like get out of jail free card, you know, it doesn't do this Don't make me do this. Yeah. Yeah, and christa's like dude. You're a warrior. You got to do it Like there's no you got to do this And it's kind of this realization that that We have to do that like we can't just be happy all the time We can't just be in this is blissed out state where we ignore Our path in our dharma and that was that was eye openings for me in that story where he was like dude You have to do this like you have to you're a warrior. That's your dharma. You have to go and fight You have to go and cause death to people basically And and what a hard pill to swallow that is but that is such a metaphor for like what we go through when we're also Like we have to do this. We have to face collie. We have to face the This is crude But I tell students sometimes when they're first up in our beginner courses down at a y a I always try to like Give them the raw truth before we get started to make sure they if they don't want to do it They could leave but I'm like this practice is going to show you where you're an asshole sometimes like it's gonna It's not going to be flattering. You know, there's going to be times when you when you don't like who you are You don't like what you're seeing but um, but then you work through that and that is where I mean, it's just a constant I don't think there's ever a time where you've Exorcised every shadow out of you. I think it's a constant Reexamining of of stuff like that. So um, so yeah, so speaking of so again before we get into the next topic that kind of has to do with this if you guys want help if you want somebody to kind of Teach you and guide you through this. I am going to put again Cindy's links down in the description box below As I said, I've known Cindy for a long time before youtube ever happened and I will tell you she's the real deal She's she's helped me a lot. So so she is awesome So she's awesome person to get in contact with and she can help you if that's something that you want a teacher Sometimes it is great to have a teacher because you have that accountability. You have someone that's not Emotionally involved in your life It's kind of like a therapist who is an emotionally involved in your life and they can kind of see through You know when you're kind of lying to yourself or trying to dissuade yourself They can kind of see through that and therefore help you stay in the correct path So again her contact information will be down in the description box below. That's something you're interested in So now this is something I'm super excited about talking about and y'all there should be a fly on the wall So I teach on at Cindy's yoga school on sunday mornings and after the students leave usually sunday and I sit around and have Probably the strangest conversations Normal people that are at the coffee shop down the street They probably think we're a whack of you if they heard because we talk about the weirdest stuff ever And and and we talk about it with sincerity So i'm super excited Excited to bring this up with you guys because I think all of you guys on this channel could totally hang with Us and have these conversations But we the the subject of Ouija board came back up because I talked to kodi from mystery archives about that And we started kind of talking about when you do start because we talked about the clairvoyance the different clairs of of seeing You know of things that aren't readily available to us and as the veil lifts We start to recognize that there are different types of Dimensions we should say with with entities and i'm going to let you take it from here sunday because you had some great insight into that Well, yeah, I mean just doing the work that i've done with people it with the the shadow and the retrieval and looking at What's holding into people's energy patterns? You have to realize this, you know, especially that when you start, you know To awaken and maybe get very excited about the things that you see and all that stuff That everything that you see is not going to be for your highest and best that there are Very many four dimensional beings that are out there and that they'll even they'll pretend They're fourth dimensional beings that will pretend to be the light And we'll try to trick you to talk about the trickster the trickster entities that are out there And they'll come in and they'll trick you and they can even Show a light but the light looks different than the highest like the highest vibration of light is is Very dimensional, you know, like multi-dimensional Where as someone who's pretending to to be the light their light is going to be flatter Right more like Not as fully domestic more one dimensional almost you see your name. Yeah Anyways, there are these entities that are out there that will that can mess with you and that will You know that will not have necessarily a very good influence over you And to be aware of that You know, especially as a clairvoyant being or as a light worker or someone who's getting in touch with With elements that are unseen with the with the regular with our regular five senses That what you come in contact with isn't always going to be be good and to recognize that one that that is a possibility and to to Why it's also so important to do your work Including the shadowy work that we're talking about because the more you do your work That's going to be the biggest protection against such beings I mean, there are things where you can like if you're feeling weak that you can You know surround yourself with light But this is my opinion. My opinion is just do your work So that your energy is you know, we're talking about electrons and chopper systems and the the anatomy of your higher spirit Doing the work so that that just fully blossoms and then you can't be Fooled if you laid it or tricked Um, especially if you go in and you're feeling hurt Or you're desperate for for answers That's when these beings can come in and and sucker you into believing that You're getting into something good when when it's not so good So in other words, that's not just human beings that do that. There are entity beings that do that as well Yeah, you know, you always hear well, don't play with leady boards That's why because unless you're specifically working and you know You're calling in the highest highest vibration of light and you know what that is when that feels like Anything can begin to start to come through the group Well, that's part that's part of doing the spiritual work is being able to tap into your own discernment And sometime discernment is real. I mean, I think we all think we have discernment, but even in my experience Discernment gets greater the more you know yourself and the more you're able to work through yourself And um, and I love that yeah Because a lot of people will play with Ouija boards who don't really have that much of a spiritual background And so they will bring in an entity that's not there to hurt to help them But hurt them, but they're kind of tricked by it a little bit Whereas when you and we talked about this with tarot cards too because that's something that People are starting to realize that these divination tools. They're just tools Like that's what I say when people ask me about the tarot cards They're just all that is is a tool the divinator is the person that's being able to read and Cindy I talked about this on sunday and my favorite one my favorite people in the world on youtube is tarot by janine I just love her and she's so good at what she does because it's hard to read those cards, isn't it? Oh, yes That is not easy work So yes, it's amazing the people that have cultivated that as their skill set And you see and people people get so afraid of especially people coming from a more um traditional or conservative Christian background they get afraid To use these tools of divination, but the tools themselves are not what's hurting you It's your own ability to to divinate and to have discernment and to tap into yourself and to to know yourself In a lot of ways and and you know tarot cards can't all tarot cards really do is give you a Foreshadowing overcast that's basically it so that you can make better decisions or kind of figure out And it was sometimes in tarot cards It'll give you like two different paths that can happen and it's up to you And how you work as to which one's going to come into fruition and it's not something I mean they're not it's not something to be afraid of is it sunday that the some of these tools of divination as long as you're you're you're going in there and Whenever i'm doing any kind of work like that's pretty safe in space for yourself You know like really make sure that you're you're calling in Or you're listening to courses that have your highest and best interests in mind and you can often you can you know Just ask a lot of times if you feel something coming through they The the higher beings of light will only come through with pure unconditional love and you can even ask that Are you here with unconditional love for me? And they you know and if they're not because you can have beings That are not like demons, but yeah in half way. Yeah, they have their own agenda. Yeah um and I think it's an I think it's even in the uh because there are these belief systems and it's not in the Gnosticism when you you're you go in and you start to read about Sophia The goddess Sophia. Yep. Yeah, we talked about her in the chat like a descent And and in her descent this fake god was created. They called that the Demurech the Demurech Yeah, Ie rge. I don't ever know how to say it Yeah, and this is in the Alistair Crowley even talks about it I think within his know within his teachings as well But it's uh the Demurech. They're the fake gods. Yeah And they so there is like this fake god And he has You know, he I guess it would be he has his forces, but then we confuse all that with the higher being of light and the and being aware of when these the fake god and his Archons, I guess yeah come in Yeah, try to You know manipulate and control us, but they're very talented That's the like like we've been doing all this other stuff as humans That's basically what they've been doing for a long time and and it yeah there we actually guys I'm gonna tag down below I'll try to we did the apocryphon of john which was a band book A band heretical book from the bible lol that talks about sophia and and the main one that she kind of has is yelda buff And it talks all about that so I will put that down that does come from the original gnostic christian fates So I will put that down below and I loved how you say you can ask if if the entity or the group The gang is there for pure love. It's kind of like with police officers when they're doing like a drug bust And I've never I've only seen this in the movies I'm just gonna clarify that right now But where they they someone asked them if they're a police officer They have to say they are if they you know like if they're trying to yes So there has to be you have to say that they are or not Yeah, there has to be a level of disclosure when it comes to that And something that cindy has helped me with a lot too and actually a lot of spiritual leaders that I look up to Like cindy that have helped me with Everything in the universe Basically goes off of one law and that's the law really a free will And so when you when you feel an entity trying to come in and manipulate you into doing It's bidding or to using your energy source or whatever it is. They're doing if you feel that You don't really have to fight it. All you have to say really is like I don't consent Yeah, you gotta you gotta go away and they will because they have to unless you made like a deep contract A contract with them at some point or another because in some of the work I've done too Um people will have like little implants on them. Yeah implants from uh other dimensional beings It's you know, sometimes the implants are simply informational base. They're they're wanting to get information from you And so they use these implants. Sometimes those implants are to To take away your life so that you you can't you won't be As willing to do the work that you want to do, you know In other words, it might cause like just bad feelings inside of you So it makes it harder for you to do your your work your gift as a spiritual person or as a light worker to help that There are specific things that happens for those light workers or spiritual beings like there is a Forces out there that will target those beings specifically And yeah, you can get implanted. Yeah things like you'll have little implants of stuff and Having to remove some of those Yeah I know I've I had an experience once where I've often on have had back issues But now I've learned um my back's gotten so much better But now I've learned like when I feel achy when I get up I've kind of learned where it's and this is if this is it somebody's first time on my channel You're probably like what the hell are they talking about? But now I've kind of learned when it's an actual physical issue Maybe I'm about to get my cycle or something like that and when it's not an actual physical issue having to do with me If they somebody's messed with something and I usually say I'll say it in my head too like whatever you put in me You got to take it out now and there was one point where I and it might have been after a conversation We had Cindy months ago where I said Whatever was consented to before this with you I withdrawal I don't sit anymore and it and everything went away Yeah, or would I totally have the power to do that? You know, sometimes what I'll do at the end of my yoga classes When I remember is will say Or I'll have them just repeat it in their head anything that doesn't belong to me. I release it now. I delete it I delete it and uncreate through all space time dimensions and reality because you can pick up not just stuff That's out there, but uh collective emotions and feelings Yeah, so that's another thing that you can be very easily As well, if you feel like you picked up on stuff, you know, I delete release and uncreate through all space time dimensions In reality anything that's not from a high skill or anything that doesn't belong to me Yeah, just letting the the earth take it just give it Give it a touch of mama another Yeah, you know the funny thing is too and I want to I want to say this before I forget guys Even when you say like I'm done. I don't consent take it away. It will try to come back again It's always going to try to come back to renegotiate. So this is something you'll constantly be saying I don't consent. I don't consent, but there was one time I did a Ceremony with one of my other friends who's there. I know I've talked to you about her before Cindy She does reiki too and she's very um spiritual and we did a lot with like ancestral work and when um My five times great grandmother who was I talked about she was queen victoria There was an agreement that had been made and when they were doing the ceremony to break the agreement I kid you not it was the wildest experience and I've had a lot of paranormal experiences It got so hot In the actually we're in this room and this room we were in and you could just feel Just the aggression coming from that entity whether that was victoria or whatever entity she was serving But it severed it severed and that night I slept harder than I have ever slept in my life. It was like my body just completely Gave in to being healed and being like restored And I know that for people who are new to this this I know this sounds like crazy, but um, but I mean Y'all this stuff's real like it's real and and these these beings that live On the other side of the veil or in the different dimensions. They're just as real as we are right and part of and we were saying that by on sunday part of um Awakening as you start to have these experiences because you all of a sudden start to be able to see what you couldn't see before And it is hard for people who are new to this or especially come from like a super Conservative family where this stuff wasn't talked about You can fall for the wrong thing. You can't be a real freaked out You don't know that you're you have your own power And I think yeah that the it's funny I laugh when we go through the missing books the bible we talk about all the angel the angelic beings And the whenever they appear to people in their full in their full form because I do believe like those beings can take human form To for if they need and necessary the first thing they always say is like don't be afraid like whoa, whoa, whoa Don't freak out. It's all good. I don't want to scare you But darker entities aren't really going to care as much about again It's that pure and unconditional love that you have That they have for you Yeah, and so and so it is just learning that discernment I do think that coming into this new age more and more people are going to start to learn how to use divination techniques and learn how to have that divine um relationship With with the spirit world and with well, it's powerful And I think when you start to get into it, you need to realize what you're actually getting into Yeah, because we think oh, this is just kind of fun and I'm just gonna have a good time and I'm just gonna play I'm gonna do whatever And you don't realize what you actually I mean it's kind of like the movies that they make Yeah, they're out playing and then suddenly they awaken some kind of force that They weren't supposed to I mean that does happen on a certain level Right, right. Well, you know, I was laughing because I was I was telling Cindy about Janina Obviously, you guys know Janine comes to this channel at time and she's such a strong reader of tarot cards and she just reads so quickly and she's so Spot on like if you go guys go back to her channel watch her old videos everything she said has come into fruition But Cindy and I were talking about like she's able to withdraw her own opinion And her own ego from the from what the cards are saying and that's something people struggle with right when they're doing Divination techniques or something that they're that ego gets involved where they want the the cards to say something and so they force that narrative To to say something that isn't what the cards are trying to say And I think that also comes with working on your own stuff a lot to be able to back your own opinion away from it Just see what the cards say you have to be At some point just make the decision that you're going to be radically honest with yourself all the time I mean because things will come in. Yes, like what you're talking about Well, am I pushing the cards and you being able to say I mean really honest and say up, you know, yes I am or or yeah, you know Because that's the way our ego will come in to play when we're doing you know any of any of this work is it will It likes to be right Right Yeah You know, it wants to be right and it wants to be like acknowledged as being right all the time So then when something comes in and says no, you're wrong, then we're like, no, that can't be Yeah, I know I know So that takes that honesty with yourself And I laugh because that's so common just in the spiritual world in general Like it's so like we're I mean, I'm sure we're like a reality show for the aliens at this point I think we're like welcome to season 12 of earth like we're we're because human beings are the funniest creatures Like I see it in in our studio here at aya all the time. I'm sure you've seen it as sacred garden It's just human behavior where people come to you because they want to change They want to help but then when they're presented with with change by by the shadow work saying this is where you're wrong This is where something needs to be worked on. They go. Oh, no. No. No, I'm good Yeah, you're like, no, no, wait a minute. That's not what I wanted to do Right. Exactly. Exactly the answer that I want That's what I mean with when we say that shadow work is going to make you go through the things that you don't want to do Oh, yeah Based on like your deepest fears and that's a good Another good point too to the person who asks Where do I begin with shadow work? Look at where you're resisting. Yeah another you you get a hint All right, this is what this is what's coming up for you and then you go. No, no, no, no That is pretty much there's something there's something there and then that would be a good time for us to get really honest And say, okay, what am I afraid of right? What is the worst thing that's going to happen here if I look at this? And how much of that is a story that's been made up by By my you know programs and my ego and my social conditioning right social conditionings and those And those constructs that we create for ourselves or those masks that we could arm They do a really really good job to protect you from those deepest fears And the you know things that we want to reject. Yeah, my name. I've looked all it in the scriptures We you know, you go look in the yoga sutras. You go look in the Bhagavad Gita and nowhere in any scripture have I ever read that said Like Where you have to there's no change Right, you know, like there's no You you can't that you can do this work without changing your behavior Right. Oh, absolutely. It's not written anywhere. No So i'm going to say that with Cindy said again, so if you're interested in taking on a spiritual path I would suggest getting these books these old either the Bhagavad Gita the whatever it is There's tons of them. You can even email me your Cindy and we'll give you a list Read them Nowhere in those books. Did they say this is going to be super easy easy peasy? Yeah Like you don't have to yeah, yeah They all say this is going to suck and i'm paraphrasing in modern language They they don't say it that way, but they're like this is going to be tough And you're going to have to any Todd says it a lot my boyfriend like it's about creating new patterns too Like you're having to break old patterns to create new ones And and that is hard And that is black wool and that we in and that it's a path of most resistant not least resistance. Yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, that's where people get the where they westernize some of the ideas and the philosophies where You know, it's all love and life. This should all be like easy and good I mean, you know, maybe some aspects, but when it gets down to some nitty gritty work It's the path of most resistance. It's not the path of least resistance The devil is literally in the details Like literally the devil's in the details and I and I know I say that in our class on um on sunday's a lot I'm always like get uncomfortable. This is not about comfort This is about because when you're uncomfortable like in and where in the lineage that I come from with ashtanga It's about it's a challenging practice that pushes people To this physical level level of discomfort not not we don't push students over their ability at the moment We're not going to come in and like break your legs like that's not going to happen to the point There's their baby steps, but you see it because we teach um Mysore which is where students come in and they do their assigned practice and the teacher walks around the room and helps them And it's interesting because you see You can literally see when you observe a mysore room where people get resistance because If you're talking about the practice of yoga a lot of times these postures That we do are done in a way to trigger certain um Responses that are held in certain like as we talked about last time with the choppers and certain energy places in the bottom That are helping trigger them and you literally see some students the mysore We don't see it as much in a leg classes They get to this one posture and they'll do everything to postpone doing it They'll go to the bathroom They'll decide all of a sudden they need to fix their hair even though they're Yes, they'll start picking their nails and it's literally five breaths in and that's it. It's hitting quit It's not it's like what five breaths is what 10 seconds 15 seconds. It's not but you see that that mental like gymnastics that people do To try to get out of being in that place of discomfort and even though it's physically happening in yoga It's it's it's not really physical It's all connected to something in the psyche or something in the thought process that has created a limitation Whether that's coming from a heretical line your your lineage you've inherited It's it's like I mean it it always cracks me up the way western peoples, you know portray our movies. You see portrayed yoga. I'm like Yeah, that's not what we do You hear the But like if you really want to make Uh more of a longer lasting shift in your life This is what it will require instead of only having short moments of pleasure based off of pleasure that comes purely from the ego And wanting to actually experience, you know deep meaning and purpose and love That's what we're talking about and to get to that point you just have to be very real and honest and And just look you know being willing to look at yourself and but not seeing yourself as like this evil or bad person It's just who you are in your full spectrum of light human. Yeah The mean whatever you come across with with we talked about this last time with compassion and with acceptance and with love so that Your body feels so your um All those parts of you feel safe to come back into your body once again and you can like really fully integrate and be whole Be grounded in wholeness. I think where you're going to find that key to You know a happiness or contentment that that lasts and another thing too is Uh releasing any idea that you know as you start to Um to walk and be on this path that you're never going to have any problems ever again because that's false too No, if you'll have to Things are still going to happen in your life but the way you respond to them Absolutely, that's the main thing. It's not like bad things are going to quit happening That's not true because I think sometimes we think we're failing because we're not manifesting And things aren't coming out just the way I want them and that's not that's not the way it works either No, and I know and that's one thing that I loved about rom dos the way he was teach about exploring yourself and When you see those ugly sides of yourself that shadow side and it makes you cringe You don't want to look at it. That's because you're looking at it with your ego Right ego does it but if you're able to kind of just observe it for what it is And rom dos would talk about this a lot and a lot of the yoga practice is literally just observing A lot of working on is being able to feel the feelings of the emotion Understand the emotion But also being a place of observing the emotion too so that you can control how your ego then responds to the situation at hand And rom dos would say i'm paraphrasing but he would say like when things happen Like if you're you know meditating or doing your yoga practice or just doing simple Like work with cindy and something kind of gnarly comes up Instead of like trying to push it away or attached to you would just go. Oh, that's interesting That's interesting that came up. Let's look at this now And so you're able to practice what we call in the yoga sutras that purusha or that watcher the seer That part of you that's just observing that's just seeing everything And I in my own life because it yeah, you're right the the closer the more you you feel like you're doing your work Actually, sometimes life gets even harder Because when you're able to I feel like if you're in a crazy world and you're able to kind of Remain grounded and calm It triggers other people right it triggers them in their own work Where it's all we're all just kind of helping each other out here, but other people So a it can cause more problems But but you're able to handle yourself better and and you're able to see things clearer that it's just One of my favorite mantras is this to shall pass. It's just it's just a fleeting moment A fleeting thought a subconscious gross luggage suitcase you've been carrying around and you can now unpack it observe it ugliness work through it and then And that's that's mainly the work. It's not about And yes, I mean once you you do that and your perception will slowly It's like I said, it's not usually like I mean sometimes it's a quick process But you know, sometimes it's the slower process. You'll feel your perception begin to shift And you'll start to make different decisions and that's how your life changes, too Yeah What in in it's in the sutras it's in the Um Patanjali writes about it in the yoga sutras that If you are living life through the lens of like your traumas or what you would call eucalyptus Yeah obstacles in other words, yeah living your life through your obstacles Um The result what you're going to get back is going to be that same vibration You're going to get back that same vibration of obstacle and it's going to be happening that way Yep But then as you start to remove the obstacles or the glaciers and you start to see more clearly You're going to take action from that place of clarity and it's coming to provide a different energetic result From you Absolutely. Yeah, actually begin to energetically align with a different frequency and vibration That has more to do with you know, your higher self your soul the truth versus Your pain Yeah, and I love because that goes into what we talked about last time about how like we have a trauma response a lot of times trauma Like when you see people who get in the same um bad relationship over and over and over again Because something hasn't been healed with them. It's not it's even though It's a bad situation with their partners that they're going through but it's more like they're they're putting that out because they haven't Taken it out and observed it and worked on it It's almost like when you can see when your friend is making these same patterns over and over again You can see it clearly. Well, you have to be able to have that site for yourself as well And yeah, I love that they have the and maybe next time we can actually talk about all the different glaciers for the group So there's tons of them. There's a lot of them. There's a lot of different It's like you're a track runner and you got those little hurdles. You got to jump over Over in life. I know I've been seeing memes around how people are like like horror face Like why did I agree to do this like looking at their contract they made with god about Life and it's like why did I agree to do this? um But it is a constant thing and that's one thing I think a lot of people especially when they get um Four or five years into a practice, whichever practice it is and they start to kind of almost Feel like it's never going to end and they kind of want to see this finish line But it's it's all you're always working on it as long as you're alive You're always going to have that ego coming up as it's constantly a practice. It's constantly and it's so much easier It's funny um patabi joys who was my boyfriend's guru who passed away in 2009 He used to have this funny saying where he would say 99 practice one percent theory You know in theory we talk about this stuff and it all makes sense But then when you go to practice it that's when it's Real and that's when it really It's like oh my god This is so much harder in practice than it is in theory and there was a funny story somebody told me once that before the westerners um came over to india and like the 60s and started working with him. He would say like 70 practice 30 theory but when the westerners got there they this was in the 60s guys They just wanted to smoke a dubi and talk philosophy all day that guru He was like, okay. No, no 99 percent. Yeah practice one percent theory. So you can't talk about the song about it All you want to but it's not gonna change what you're talking about but until you Make it happen and actually apply it into your life It's not gonna make all the difference So if and and you and I know us at this last time because I think rakey also is a good a good way to kind of Help people kind of pull things out energetically and you can do that from afar, right? Wait, I know we talked about this last time. I mean it's all the same thing. Um, because I'm a rakey practitioner like a rakey master but I'm also I like have like shamanic roots and so when I the work that I do it's a it's a combination and I don't know if you did that I'm also You know funny the very first thing that I ever received was just kind of crazy because it's backwards I mean I had started the yoga practice But I became a certified hit the therapist when I was like in my 20s and so after that my My teacher who taught me that Taught me also how to do the spirit release work And I learned how to do another is how to remove entities from people You're exorcist how to do that before I learned how to do which is kind of like Mass accurate. Yeah, I know but you know, it's like that's how I know it's like I was entrenched in it from the very beginning that the the work You know sometimes it's going to get Yeah, I was going to have to get my hands dirty. Yeah, you're a little Yeah, so I persist. I'll let's say it's yes it's a little bit of a combination of all those things from all the the work that I've done and um Uh, you know, you're talking about like shadow stuff another shadow experience I have And just to explain that I think you know some of it is some of these gifts are truly inherited. Yeah I did we were talking about this on sunday. I had that one experience with ayahuasca And I did it up in the mountains of Peru. I'm from Peru And I've led several retreats to Peru and this was probably like my fifth or sixth retreat And I was co-hosting it with somebody And this was actually kind of right after what I was talking about like the shadow that went through with my relationship this was on the Around that that time like a little bit after that um, and I had the strong urge to Like there was this pulling cycle plant was calling me ayahuasca was like, okay, you need to come and do this You have to know like I don't do psychedelic. I like I've never I've never even smelt pop before in my life I'm just not like that's not usually what I you know do so when I got this calling I'm yeah, I literally got this calling. This is next time when you go to Peru to do your retreat You're gonna go and you're gonna do ayahuasca and I'm like, okay Well, how's that gonna happen? I'm like hosting the retreat But I happened to be co-hosting it in the day that they all went to matcha peachy because I'm about Nothing's much peach about six or seven times um, that was the day that I was going to do my ceremony and if it wasn't like Rand out or anything I mean, I just knew that that was going to be the day and I had called the person Where at the retreat center where we usually stay and I asked her, you know, if it was possible to like do ceremony on that day And she says yeah, but then when I got there I mean, I had to find someone who would do the ceremony for me because it's not like it was just Someone was already having it. Right. I happened to um Now I was talking to someone who was saying at the uh, or who Works at the retreat center. She's like, oh, well, you know, there's this female shaman over here and she might be available to do it And so in other words, it all came together like Last minute. Yeah, and I went over there that you know, I met with her during the day And then I went over there that evening and you know, you always do the ayahuasca From my understanding, I'm like, it's I've only been once in the night time because always at night. Yeah In the dark and I was the only one Usually if you do ayahuasca ceremony year in a group It was just me it was me and the shaman and her husband who's playing some crazy astromes like that I guess it would just get you more into that state um, so Anyways as I began the ceremony I mean that was a pure shadow for me I've told you that like it was a pure trip down to helen damnation and back There was no like light, you know, some people. Yeah Like oh, you know, I got I connected with thought and I had like this blissful thing for me It was just pure like it was just torture. Yeah I just went to pure torture for about six hours, but um, I could hear her Coming like her voice saying this is what you're doing to yourself. The reason they're keeping keep it because I think I want you to see what you're doing to yourself. That's powerful and um But at the beginning There was uh, you know, I watched as a purging I did like have a purging at the very And I remember when I had this purging there was like this kind of weird Screeching in my head and it was almost like this kind of like entity screeching being And after we were through the ceremony. She says yes, what that was is you were holding the karma of what your ancestors used to do in other words you had you had great great great grandmother or something like that who practiced the dark arts and You're you held the karma for that and I don't know how long ago that was And I don't know what grandmothers they were or whatever But he thinks But it was something that was was, you know, it was it felt like very real um So all that uh to say to you that I mean I have um I think within me like a lineage of I mean, I don't do any of my dark arts or anything like that But yeah, I tend to go Into the shadow a little bit easier. Let's put it that way and yeah The highest good and I think that's what um What's important to recognize is that when you're doing this kind of work too And even when you're doing this kind of work with yourself is to serve the highest good and to serve your highest good um Anyway, it's kind of like all that stuff Comes through when I'm uh working with somebody I've done cindy's worked on me before guys and it's a truly powerful powerful experience if you live close to the area You know, it's worth contacting cindy for an in-house um treatment because it's It's pretty magical to work with cindy because she definitely has that like old world almost and I say old Lovingly because every culture not all of all of our ancestors knew this Well, y'all everyone has an indigenous living if you have to oh, yeah Yeah, and they all knew this and then it got taken from us and got labeled Witchcraft or whatever they want to label it as and now as we kind of turn back around into a new age We're discovering that this is a part of our What I would call like a language with God like a conversation with God in order to our universe in order to kind of Again, be your highest self and you I love how she was like you're doing this to yourself because basically 99.9 percent of the time. Guess what guys? It's all on you and then the other thing that she said to just uh at the end of that that experience Uh, well, no, she didn't say I heard it was a voice that I heard at the end as it was all starting to fade away In other words, there was no love and light. It was just finally coming out of hell And then I heard this voice say you don't need drum. Sorry. You don't need drugs to know that part of you Drugs to know the dark side of you. Um, like this is like, yeah, that's what That's what uh, rom dos used to tell his story because he was um His story was he got involved with all the you know psychedelic acid stuff And eventually it was like he used to say like at some point You know for the psychedelic stuff it will serve a purpose But at some point you got to like put it aside and like find that within yourself. Yeah Yeah, show you don't need it to know that Right, you don't you could show you stuff, but then you can rely on that all the time again. It's like I was saying this at my my class on sunday evening at aya It's like the power is like the wizard of Oz where she's like the power has been within you all along It's always been there And so you don't you you to know god to know to know everything about yourself And in our world that's relieving the age of Pisces has done everything to kind of disconnect that chain where we have to go Through someone else or but now that's the the freeing part of this new transition is that You are wholly within yourself and you have the capacity To have that understanding and to have all of that and But again in order to have all that understanding you got to go through it's it's so it's so cheesy And i'm gonna like i'm kind of like cringe saying this and in sunday I know you're gonna know what i'm gonna say in a minute But we say it in yoga a lot with the lotus flower and how it has to go through the mud Yes, no, but no lotus. Yeah, it's so cheesy and I know talk about in the next Calling his eyes right now It's so cheesy But that is a huge thing about why the lotus flower is so it's such an important symbol in yogas because You got to go through the mud like you can't you can't just go around it like as you said you got to get your hands dirty You know you got to have like mascara running down your face as you're crying in a corner sometimes You know that's just part of but it's I loved how your experience was going to hell and back Oh, it was pretty rough. I mean it was a full peer I think it was all six hours where I had I have it's still with me like a clear understanding of what? Eternal because it felt eternal you know how some people say eternal hell in damnation. Yeah, okay. This is what the bad You told me I'm good. I did a tour did a tour. I'm good now But you know, but I loved how the lady said like you're doing that to yourself because even jesus said that even jesus said Behold the kingdom of heaven and hell Are inside of you? Yeah, and there was just like this image because the feeling at that time was like me just like spiraling I couldn't hold on to anything That was like a general feeling of what was going on when I was on it Like it was and there was nothing that I could hold on to there was nothing that I could hold on to And I think what I was trying what I realized afterward is I would look for people to try like I was Like get a vision of my husband or get a vision of my son or get a vision of someone at the yoga studio Like pull you out and I would like reach out this way for them to grab a hold and that would get like a moment of release of relief But then it would let go in an instant But isn't that such a metaphor like you gotta pull yourself out? Yeah, that's such a metaphor because we always think oh we got we have these safety nets of people in our life, but literally You were born alone and you will leave this earth alone. Like it's all you it's all you doing your own work And um and yeah, that's awesome. Well, I want let's next time Let's talk about the glaciers as people take this in And then we can talk about all the different glaciers and the different like ego obstacles because I It's it's I know it sounds silly because like Cindy and I this is this is what I we do in our real lives But I I know that people who are new to this don't even I try to think back to the beginning for me. You don't even realize sometimes what certain obstacles are You don't even realize the projection of obstacles. And so the glaciers kind of help give you that roadmap to kind of understand like What certain things are so anyway, but um guys, so again, I'm gonna put the Two previous videos that I did with Cindy I'm going to put down in the description box below again in case you missed them So you can go back and rewatch them if you want more information and take notes or whatever you want to do Again, all of cindy's contact information is going to be in the description box below along with all of her social media Again, her instagram is very powerful. She does like daily stuff on her instagram. That's really really powerful And didn't you just release like a new uh, uh class yoga class on your channel? Yeah, I just put in a yoga class and that was um, I'm in the process of working a little shorter video too about um Because we just had Friday the 13th like getting more into the mysteries of We can talk about that too because there's Friday the 13th Yes Right and that that you cool. I know janine talks a lot about that y'all who watch janine the goddess energy coming up in this You know this and in the missing books of the bible y'all see it when we read one of the gospels of holy 12c Jesus didn't call it my father He called it my father mother Yes duality of both so that's coming back into our world too and now guys so i'm gonna on the community board So if you go to my home page and you'll see community with you'll see playlist videos There's click on the community board for most of you guys know where that is I'm gonna put cindy's latest yoga class on the community board This will be on the playlist so you can go and practice one of her practices If you would like to again if you go to sacred gardens website That website will be in the description box below You can see when cindy is teaching she still has zoom classes too So there's like in class people people virtue that are there in in real life and then Virtually as well. And so that's a and one of the benefits of what's happened over this last year Is now students from all over the world can participate in your classes Because yeah, that's yeah And another thing we have just you know, if anyone's interested in clear talking about intuition and developing intuition and the players and psychic gifts and connection with the sacred elements and mother earth Um what we have a class coming out. It's called initiation Where that's what we do I mean we help to develop because you know, we're talking about when you were saying earlier that sometimes you know You're going through this stuff and you feel like There's so much information. Sometimes you don't know what to hold on to or like you're going at it alone and I mean, you don't have to yeah, I'll be there There's so there's so much out of there Where don't feel like you have to go through any of this process all by yourself. I mean that's why all this Can you hear me? You just so sorry you cut out there. You said that's why all this exists Okay All these things. Yeah, so you know that you don't have to go through all this process by yourself Absolutely, absolutely. And and yeah, so we you have a community guys and um, you'll be sending us contact I'm at sacred garden on sundays We I don't do zoom though with my class because my class is a little bit different than um, the other classes there But sunday has also has awesome teachers Literally her yoga studio is a yoga school. I mean she has teachers that teach almost every lineage in that one School so you can find I know people have been asking me like, oh my god, I didn't know there were many All these different schools of yoga. Yeah, there are tons of different schools of yoga So you have to find one that suits you and what's good for your life and that could change over time You know that I could always change But cindy's got she's more of an onyusara background. I'm an ashtanga. You've got ayin guard Just your traditional vinyasa flow. That's well your contemporary vinyasa flow You got all the different types of classes there and all the teachers. They're awesome. Awesome. Awesome. So Um, so you're in good hands at sacred garden And I wish I wish does the website have a get the gift shop Like you have a store on your website on sacred garden. Oh, yeah, we did have a fun little store at the front Yeah, she has a fun fun store. Maybe I can now on sunday film your store and put it on my Community tab but we have all you know, like things for your magical Indemners. Yeah, she's got all different kinds of tarot cards pendulums Um, beautiful artwork all sorts of stuff. So I yeah Cindy's somebody was telling me that like when they come to to my who was it? It was a while ago when they come to my class I have to like beeline for the for the might or the the yoga room because that otherwise they'll just spend all their money Excesses you know all the little things that you need. Yeah. Yeah all the trinkets and it's so cool Sometimes I'll wait I'll come and look through and see what all she's got because she's got all these really cool cool things in there so so again, I will put all of her links down below and um Thank you for coming on today. Cindy. Yes. It was fun. Let's do it next week too Let's do our whatever bi-weekly weekly whatever is good for you It's my pleasure to be on here. I mean, I think part of now it's just sharing it, you know, sharing the ministry I feel part of it. It's like a ministry Absolutely, and it's so funny. I might as more in a brick and mortar place But you know, I feel like this calling to put it out there. Well, I'm more than anything Yeah, I was talking to tamar about this and I can't remember which person it was either scott mckay or michael jake I'm not I think I don't quote me, but they kept commenting on how How many women Are like in the movement how many women are coming forward and pushing forward into this new age? And so it is kind of this moment for like that feminine energy to come forward and to help people You know and that's cindy is the embodiment of Of that feminine energy because she's obviously beautiful and very feminine, but she's strong too And grounded and and you know knows herself. So so you're anybody How's are you? Oh, thank you. I feel like I'm still at learning things, but uh, but uh, He too girl Always I'm so bought up like everywhere We should do we should do that one day too We should talk about the different adosas because people have asked me about that But I've kind of touched on that a little bit But that would be a fun conversation to have too about all the different doshas in the future for people I mean y'all there's so much like I'm overwhelmed. There's so there's so many different Boxes to open when it comes to gosh, there is so much information out there So much and we literally just are and the west especially are just starting to tap into this But I promise you if I can process all the different boxes of goodies You can do so anyway. All right, cindy. Well, I will talk to you soon. All right Bye