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It's got its own YouTube channel It's got its own podcast feed a lot of people listen and you can be one of the others that joins and listens as well We do interviews with players every day and every day, but a lot of times so anyway Jake we just had a little conversation beforehand that I want to share with the viewing public okay in eight years from 2001 yeah to 2008 yep, we saw four Expansion teams reach the world series 2001 we saw the Diamondbacks and we saw the Marlins in 03 and 97 and 97, but that doesn't that fucks up Yeah, and then the Rockies in 2007 and now the rays Tampa Bay in 2008 I At the time I was in college a freshman or sophomore college whenever this was going on I Probably didn't like it because I was like all these shitty teams love on just a punk attitude about it Thinking about it now and like the behind-the-scenes people of baseball were probably very proud of their sport Like there was someone that gave when they they said there would be expansion teams And they'll be like each expansion team will make the world series in the next 20 years But they like didn't really believe it. They're like, I hope they believe that and then they kind of did so it's kind of cool Yeah, this is Game Three three of the world series. There's the weird rain out in this world series and all that but I don't want one right now The series is yes, and the Phillies are up by one run And this was brought to you by the shop at John boy media shop dot John boy media comm and you can get yourself this Is it a little bird? No, we don't sell birds shirt Zach We don't sell birds get the bird off the damn screen actually Zach if you could have oh, there's one bird If you could have had a tiny little bird there, and then it blows up and then a shirt Unless that takes you too long flew away because we just gave you like 20 of these I thought the flew away would be better than the exploding bird But okay, it's a fake exploding bird and then it flew away But most importantly the shirt and get that shirt. Yeah. Thank you very much. We kind of got a powerhouse Phil's team Man, the lineup is deep deep Rollins Utley. How would Pat the bat Schmidt? Schmidt Who's Schmidt in this story? Third baseman Michael Jack Schmidt. Yeah, I think he retired at this point. No See you just didn't watch this live She made a special appearance Shane Victorino the flying Hawaiian Jason worth was the other big bad I was met in Chuch Carlos Ruiz Pat the bat had an awful pretty good lineup And good pitching to Cole Hamels Brad Lidge Brett Myers Cheney Moyer Joe Blanton in this raise team I think I was reading that they never Finished higher than like fourth in the east until this season and Evan Longoria was their guy for a while Do you want to psychoanalyze me the artist formerly known as BJ Upton? Yeah, Melvin He was there. Do you want to psychoanalyze me? Carl Crawford Carlos Pena Rocco Baldele manager your guy Ben Sobers with good pitching and now we can Psychoanalyze you I guess when the Red Sox played the Rockies sure David Price back back then Scott Gasmere part of me Would have rather seen the Red Sox when they already want to know for so I didn't really care about that than the Rockies and I definitely was rooting so hard against the rays. Okay, interesting. So I think I was just I Don't know why that is I never wanted you don't have that divisional pride the AL East Opposite artie are like better than your fill You know what it was because I look down on the rays so much because they were the yeah the bad rays that if they were good It was kind of scary. It was like oh, we have to worry about these guys now And now we do now they are really good And they are the biggest thorn in the Yankees going into the season that might not start Let's just start the show happen into the top of the eighth Phil fills up by one. This is a bad It's a bad upload that we have of the full yeah Not good quality. Oh So what is this the save could come in the eighth inning? Why is this real for the rays? And if the Phillies get it the save could come right here the most important leadoff hitter In an inning. I mean they had to explain it earlier in the game or something. Why are they a carver? Elevated a Ryan Madsen who you guys saw be terrible with the Dodgers as good as last playoffs two playoffs ago There he is Why were they sitting You want to be do you want to be buck or MacArthur easier mechanics? I'll be buck Get on up Oh When I'm watching this Ryan Madsen's trying to throw fastballs and then mix in his off speed. Tell me my Hey, I have a theory. I've theorized something The theory I have psychoanalysis Theories the theory I have is why Joe Buck said so little words early in his career He couldn't see the field is because MacArthur said so many words That he had to balance it out you know Like if there was one of those bars were like pushing back and forth The Carver pushed way over here Joe Buck only had this much room to work with the word limit. Oh double barrel JC Romero a lot of good lefty innings Carlos Pena he's got a job in media wonder if you get some media in here Tough play for Slice That's a good play by wrong. So buck just said to opting can fly good good broadcasters mean Right there double clutch So now the time really easy and with nobody out Carlos Pena both opt-ins when they came up were like stupid but I Think BJ had just For nine in Taking off here. Yeah, raise Joe Matt and your guy It's got earflaps, but he's wearing them up because he's quirky, you know Take off kid. Oh Oh This isn't a great double box you'd rather just have that one angle where you could see yeah Yeah, yeah, don't care especially if they're gonna hang on for it for that and yes, don't do the double screen Zach always puts the TV square and now that we're into widescreen I wonder how he's I Wonder if he texted me was like what should I do and I came up with a solution Eat two bags. Here we go. Ninety-five Longoria. Oh, yeah Carlos Pena oh for two with a walk. That was against more or a much different opponent here and Ryan Madsen my staff What was it? Okay, and pain you up on the count here two and oh come on Madsen Dodgers fans hate him they traded for him, right? Have a blast two and oh it was one of those it was a Dave Roberts like how can you possibly think we're going back They should definitely have the hit run on here I Think it's a run and hit like up then you can take that back anyways, but pain you look for the heater Yeah, sure It didn't look like up and went he took a shorter lead which I thought he was either being deceptive or Apparently just nothing Big pitch here To one pitch guys go in BJ. Yeah Yeah Stairs in See, that's the angle. They should have just showed us why they show if they have that in their arsenal. Yeah There's a clock. So since back one o'clock in the morning in the east Dude, I know I'm not smart when it comes to certain things. Yeah, it would have taken me three minutes fair with time It's a nice place I've been there It's small and it feels small That was a nice pitch Probably loud during the road serious. Oh, you know, you get the people cheering and screaming To-to he's gonna bounce it takes second the nation's original capital What do you think about that? Nothing until DJ up then takes that base Maybe he's scared that if he takes second they Know there's no out Yeah, never mind. I was just trying to find a reason Charlie manual I was just trying anywhere 66 times this year Now it's got to be a pick-off Let's see that check swing, why are you running? Check swing. I mean, I'll tell you this back in 1976. There's no way that was a swing Not even close start walking a first Yeah I guess maybe they were like, hey Evan Longoria is coming up this inning just a still run out of something. Well, but still paying your roles over Never mind. All right, so pain you didn't want man and got us pain. You didn't want him stealing while he was at that I Think Carlos paying you had a don't distract me situation because there's that makes no sense Or maybe like dude think about the thought process. We just had like oh, he's not gonna go with Longoria Easy, maybe we got duped just like yeah, I don't know because now they're like hey be careful There's a base open double play Yeah, it doesn't make sense Love it agent of chaos the legs of B. J. Love it all the way around the bases. I Yep agent of chaos is a great And its momentum is So good like as soon as you steal second Don't let him catch their breath and just go to third and shit will happen like tell me how this shows up in the Analytics world and a genuine question not not a shot fired at the nerds a chopper to Jimmy Rollins and infield single Steal second steals third ball hits on scores around I mean rays, I don't think are gonna have a hit this thing in theory I mean infield single Well, according to stats that means nothing now Melvin so 22 year old Rookie Longoria and last year we had 22 year old rookie Pajaroya and Tula This this is fielders that did a lot, but also Semi didn't reach their potential. I mean and this is at the peak of baseball not promoting their game to the youth Yes, that's a great point. It's a great point. You have all these young guys coming up and MLB was like you too But no fucking way we'll put our highlights on their Facebook. No chance And like there's cool stuff happening. Yeah, they just didn't didn't promote it and it lasts for a decade And like Petroya reached his potential his body just fell apart Longoria still a really good career But people thought he was like he had all the same And then Yeah to the bottom nine right in the bottom of the nine I go walking in my Still the basis You are big JP how old I oh, yeah, you said his picture on my pillow with no bottom nine So we're going to Yeah, bottom line I Knew JP how University of Texas which is here JP howl struck out the only two year this year for JP howl also picked 2.22 era 89 Innings and now here in the bottom of the strikeouts per any job to get it to the 10th with Bruntlett Victorino and Feliz coming up. I I Like the long sleeves with these unis Eric Brunblad will step to the plate for the first time tonight with the rays. Yeah, I like those rays uniforms I can with the sleeves today. They rebrand before this is a race He's our devil He took over for defensive switch, but that that the way that jerseys. They don't have those anymore Pat Burrell in the seven say and he finally gets his first it back here in the bottom of the night Here he was in game. I feel like whenever they do the retro stuff. They go full Those like kind of neon colors in it Yeah, this is the rays. It is. Yeah, I was gonna say those wiki said they were the devil This is the uniform. They wore they still kind of wear oh seven was the last year Yeah, this is only so they rebranded to make the world series smart bullpen again Ball for such a lever Ended with Howard up representing the tying run at the plate. Oh, huh? Where the other I'm just did we were talking about that. That's a ball. It's ball. Okay. Okay. Oh fair I Also kind of like winning on screens. No and why no, that's low. Yeah. Yeah, okay Thanks, blue He just getting a hand jolly hackers. Yeah, but it's you know, that's gonna be the manager's question. Yeah, where is that? Don't be an ass. Oh, that's two inches wide to the right Because that's always Ideal Right here one would think So like MacArthur his brain goes he goes one inning Shane Victorino Will probably now sack bunt and instead of saying that right he has to wrap two other sentences around it. I Wonder if Shane Victorino is practicing bunting because then he wants the audience to go Why Tim because that's probably what he's gonna do now and it's just very obnoxious the way he Delivers everything he says You know you're with me, right? Oh full-on and it's apparently it's a thing Okay, a couple people that DM and they're like, yeah Because I remember people saying to MacArthur's awful like family guy did a sketch on it and stuff So I don't switch as Joe Madden talks to field and cold breath about what he wants to do I guess like I wasn't like on Twitter that's where the picture will bat and actively getting everyone's opinions on things back then Yeah, he's bad how long is MacArthur do this? He's still doing it Someone said he still does it for a specific team So that is When I was 12 and my dad brought home the first watch that didn't have the numbers on it I was like For those keeping track at home to my fund manager game Rocco Baldele's in this series Have Australian right? Yeah To Islanders sacrifice bumps during the regular season. How about that? Ben Zobrist into the game as they showed and I think he becomes an important factor soon He wins I don't know sacrifice here with Pedro, but he also wins a once strike strike if you get the runner over she says I was low for 32 with runners in scoring position They're not driven in a run with runners in scoring position. I lived in Roanert Park, California During this World Series. I remember watching it to pinch it in the house. I rented. They're gonna walk down the state college Plus they're giving up one of their best hitters One gets away it kicks right back to Navarro whose throw goes in the center That's baseball, baby That's baseball So they tied it on a steel throw away Go home on the throw away and now they're about to take now the other teams about to give it away in the same fashion So I know we're only watching snippets Jake sure, but hello. No, they're all blending together Okay, what was the World Series River like this is bad baseball was that 04? Yeah, there's Red Sox and The other team combined for five years, but that was so so that was a four I mean we did it earlier today, but we're four years apart, but I was gonna say this is another I Mean BJ Upton force the issue. Yes. This is this Well And I mean it's not like it's a routine play like Diana Navarro is turning around for a pass ball Eat it Right, but he if the throws there he almost had but it was just a foot off It's just It's not a play practice No, because again like, you know, you don't have two guys there the second baseman wasn't even around bounce off the brick wall right to him with less than two out which they did Hey, what is a Victorino's like final stats look like just before he was a dude for a while solid I don't think it was a dude. Well, a little bit. He was a name in baseball. He was a good player But I mean speed doesn't hold up in baseball Is this one of the fact this is a fast For a 2000s team, I feel like this is a lot of speed Is Carl Crawford here Carl Crawford's on the raise up in Upton Victorino So I think we're about to get some raise fun stuff here so I hold on but Shane Victorino You put together for Ops and Ops doesn't really like Shane Victorino He had a couple here swipes and bags hit a little bit More fun Might be the case there Played a lot 07 to 11. Yeah, so we got Zobar is playing the glove game He's gonna go from right field to play the five-man infield, which is With some serious raise whoa stuff at the time That's dares Carl Crawford, okay two left hands in the pants. Yeah running up. Yeah, I Mean is two guys doing the same walk Gloving heard is in there Is it cold? Could be I mean filling October right Madden's got ear flaps is Hey, and if you're looking for a two-man outfield young Carl Crawford and BJ up Doesn't not bad Who's left fielder? Yes You got you have Crawford and left center and up didn't right center would be my Here long enough. No, I just mean who is the starting proper who with three outfielders Zobar's wasn't right. Oh, okay. He just came in for he comes in Like MacArthur doesn't realize that was his best line of the night. No, like that was a John Madden While he's drawn on the screen very very Madden s So and they're walking I was gonna say that's not for a left Get chuchu That is so What it's scary here because you have Reese coming up, right? And if Balfour just misses any spot right on the outside You can just slap Mean you got bodies over there. It's not like It's not like Ruiz is Jason Giambi or to share Who are don't like those guys are gonna like a fuck your shift. I'm gonna do what I do You don't know chuchu Pull ratio stats. I don't but I think the mentality on him here like he's not too proud He's not too proud. Yeah, I'm talking more about that chuchu chad some big years. What year is this? Oh wait? Yeah Okay, so this year he hit 219 with the 620 But he went deep in the second show My thing was he's not he's big year. He's not a guy that's gonna come and say I don't care about your infield shift I'm gonna hit it in there. I'm gonna hit it hard, you know, he'll be like, all right I'll slap a fucking single 2012 114 days or he's had a But Grant can't pitch him on the outside doesn't want him We'll cross side and when the whole crowd reacts to a ball like that, I mean he that's something he walks him It's game over. This is crazy managing my Madden Well, what else do you do just fucking play baseball? Ruiz in game two at two walks to trust your picture trying to get Greg Dobbs half Yeah, I mean Greg Dobbs isn't a good look But still I mean you create the out at every base you give yourself slightly more options And had to pass through waivers to get there successfully and then call back. I don't remember how Nice pitch 96 baby pump it Grant, and I don't know if it's the bad quality. It looked like a two-seam or two Had a little movement a little yeah The odds are you throwing more cheese or yet? Well, you're scared to dirt one I mean Navarro already had a pass ball and that's game over off. I don't know cuz he that grant dude Cuz he's probably calling for something in the dirt. See Ruiz probably called for something in the dirt off speed And he does not trust Ruiz Catchers you gave what I'm saying kind of Probably I'm not throwing a breaking ball on the ground. I'm gonna I think you're thinking of a bad athlete Like if you're dying or Navarro and you're a majorly catcher you want to believe Block That's exactly what I'm saying, but Grant Balfour shaking him off saying no, I don't trust you I don't want my pass ball to lose us. I think Grant's just thinking he can't he can't touch my fastball Happy breaths, I don't think he wants to throw anything On it everything has been up Ain't pine tar or something deep enough to win the game On the other hand fastballs up Shop to third 45 feet. I need to see a replay That makes it that gives the Phillies a 2-1 lead in the World Series. I Mean you're proud you're still in a tough situation You're probably not getting out of without a run, but that stings a little Yeah, if they don't do all that nonsense You still have a runner at third and he probably doesn't come home on that because it's not forced to come home Which gives Longo more time to go to first If first base is open you think he bolts home on that hit. Yeah, it's a tapper Did Longoria couldn't do anything with Imagine if Longo made a play out of that You almost had to just run and kick it to him I mean, it's an impossible But if Longoria can flip it to the side. He just has to catch it. He doesn't have to tag him I mean, yeah, obviously end of the day. That's not a great flip. No, but I'm not saying you make what if he takes one more Step and dives I mean, it'd be heroic, but it's uh, you gotta put the toss a little closer man Dude, I don't think he's that much control right there. I would be in a no fault Even if he gets it there it might like it could be safe Game three That's one. I just don't know why Joe Madden didn't think to play the third baseman Right first over Stephen. Um, all right. So that's how they won That game and flips the world series the celebration is kind of weird because there was a rain out in the middle of it Right, did they push it to the next day even I forget. Yeah, it was like and then they finished where they left off I believe What's that dutch not finished I mean, honestly, I get it now like the country's Coming to a world series game Knowing you're really about to win the world series Big Eric Hinsky forgot about him Now he's got the earflops down. I think he's a bad rookie of the year winner. Those are some of your favorites No Chapin's words Well, they're your ironically I don't know. I don't know many Like you I think I would be into that. I don't think it's a flex that Eric Hinsky won the rookie of the year is what I'm saying Oh, no, yes Rookie of the year is cool. It does not mean anything in the grand scheme of things But I'm just wants to get it out of there sure in 1974 no one thinks to even consider that That wasn't a swing I am oh Uh-oh, here we go. There's another angle. You won't be able to see from It's a check swing Show the side if it's not above or from the side. It doesn't matter It's a whole point rad lidge redemption series Got um, that was a nice pitch. Oh, I like that celebration a lot. Yeah Ryan Howard come in dog pile That's a that's a filly world series That's a good. This is a good celebration. Oh, are those three on the side just having their own fun Guys, we're over here. Yeah worth was like, let me get in there Wait tackling take the shirt. Take his shirt. I mean that was good. You like fireworks Yeah You know like how you know that saying like how could you not be romantic about baseball? Sure. That's how I'm with fireworks See, I think I could flip you on that in like five seconds In which way I think you like a fireworks show I don't think I'm playing with fireworks. Oh, not at all. Exactly. I like watching fireworks That's why I said I could put that on and said in five seconds. Well, it's never my intention I think you knew that like I like playing with fireworks, too I don't Say in the firework around my life fireworks You know, like you like watching or playing both I don't like playing It's over sad Like you said it gets better for him He doesn't know that taking all three of his bats Oh my god, we did it. It's good The celebration continues after fox cuff fast forward through the coach poke I don't like the split screen They're doing all the individual reactions that you like but not the first year We've seen all the individuals. No some other did it, but I don't like the fucking right graphics and split screen Hey, here's a riot to the left and here's a bunch of grown men reaching their goal and then some Just muddying up the whole thing He went for handshakes Not even excited There it is Is ken rosenthal with brad liege can't Listen a little Can It's all brad liege I'd say six five I'm hoping for ken We're like kens Six five Everybody behind me You realize like some people are corny like or life is corny sometimes. Yeah, because like that was a disney middle school movie These fans are amazing True true though. I'm gonna fault you for it. Well, that was the 2008 were Goodbye