 I remember sitting down in a restaurant I was driving in around the country as he was speaking which I did for 20 years and I got a napkin and I said I want to show you something and in the restaurant I drew a big circle and I said see this big circle I think this is your circle of influence and it's fantastic and it's all that you've done for 20 years and all that's been accomplished and it's brilliant and then I drew a little circle inside his circle and I said I think that's me and my generation and my impression is that you want us to have a circle as long as it's inside your circle and that's killing us so I want to draw you what I think it should look like and I flicked the napkin over and I drew the Olympic rings I said I think generational generational interface should look more like this where we overlap in areas where we just smarter doing stuff together than apart but a part of all of our circles should be unique according to our journey but if we stay in relationship there's no limitation to where that can go