 All right expired your face which has inspired lots of humor on the set here about expiring faces And you probably want ours to expire every once in a while if you've watched enough of our videos Well, you can stop watching our videos when you pass your BCBA exam. How's that? So? Let's see. You wanted some examples. Mr. expired your face or Mrs. expired your face Whoever you are on indirect assessment and why it's so awful. Well first off I must say that it's awful for a reason is because it's not direct So I'll be direct with you which isn't awful and I'll explain why indirect assessment actually I've already explained why it sucks So let's just give you some examples. How about any sorts of intelligence testing? That's indirect on lots of levels, okay for measuring a hypothetical construct So that just sucks, but let's apply it more behaviorally. Will you so anytime you're asking someone to report on someone else? That's indirect if you're not observing the behavior then it's indirect So if I asked my oh, it was a great story here My 13 year old gets her room inspected once a week because I can't handle to do it more than that because my ears will just explode So the other night I was reading to the kids in bed the younger kids in bed and the 13 year old she comes up She says it's ready for inspection and I said okay, and I grabbed the seven-year-old. I said go tell me if it's ready For inspection 13 year old lost the plot. Why because she didn't trust her brother to provide an accurate assessment Right it was indirect right so young kid came up young one he comes back upstairs I asked him a series of questions. How was the room? He goes it was nice I go did she deserve to go to bed? He goes yes, she does and I said what was there anything on the floor? He goes well, there was a few things on the floor and he lists the things okay How about the desk and so on so anyways the seven-year-old was with was giving me an indirect assessment of the bedroom Right, so do I trust the seven-year-old sure in this particular case? I do he's as pedantic as we are here at psych core which is great So I do trust him, but I might not trust other scenarios right if you ask a teacher how a kid does in the classroom They may not have the best information if you ask a parent about how their kid behaves at home They may not have the best information so any type of indirect assessment is when you're evaluating some behavior without directly observing it right any sort of Well checklists not so much, but any sort of survey All right, how do you feel about or in in the following scenario? I do the following thing Right, that's all indirect. That's that's not a direct assessment of the actual actions and they're notoriously inaccurate But that also doesn't mean we shouldn't use them It means that you need to be cautious with their use and you need to realize that direct assessment is your best tool But it might it's not your only tool and sometimes all you've got is indirect assessment. So So expired your face I hope that's helped a little bit to understand that really indirect assessment is just about not directly observing whatever behavior It is that you're interested in There's lots of different layers to it when you start to get into other areas of psychology But in reality, it's it's not that awful. I like to pick on it on camera But it's not that awful sometimes you just do what you can with what you have and Thanks for playing here at psych or and do come back with more questions and we'll get you more answers cheerio folks