 So, cool. Here we go. Let's start. Let's do it. Let's do it. So, cool. Hey, dad. Hi, Dana. Nice to see you. It's the the age of silent. It's okay. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. Okay. Hi, thank you so much. I'm glad you could sit down and talk about your latest album, Ona. Am I pronouncing that right? Yep, Ona. Fabulous. So, I had a chance to listen to the album and I was really impressed, really excited by it. And I obviously have some questions about how you made it, but I just wanted to ask why you made it, because it seems like you've got a lot of powerful messages in there. I did. Well, first of all, thank you for listening. It really means a lot, especially since T.C. Helicon was a big part of putting this record together in terms of the effects and things that I was using all throughout the album. So, I'm so glad that you had a chance to check it out. The album came together in a very organic way. Back in 2017, I went to the Women's March in Washington, D.C., and stood in the nation's capital with hundreds of thousands of people marching for women's rights and human rights. And it was something that really changed my life. It was an experience that I was a part of that just ignited this fire inside of me. And when I came back from that little trip to D.C., I immediately wrote the song The Resistance, which is the single that I released ahead of the album featuring a spoken word artist and poet Stacey N. Chin. And basically from that point onward, all throughout 2017, I started to write a bunch of music, not realizing until I was about three or four songs in that they all had this common theme. And the common theme was women, women's empowerment. And it was more focused on the successes and the triumphs of women rather than pointing of the finger and being angry and, you know, look at what you did, depressing me all of these years. It was more about a celebration of women and how women are like water. We always find our way through the cracks. I think celebration is a great way to describe it, especially going with the very first song, Ona. Is it all right if I put that on in the background here? Yeah, absolutely. Some really powerful bits in there. Thank you. So Ona means she in Croatian, and I'm half Croatian. And the idea behind this song was to also pay tribute to the women in my life who experienced things across different generations, different cultures. You know, I come from an immigrant family that came to the United States after, you know, escaping communism. And so the idea of having this tune with Croatian lyrics sung by a Balkan choir and English lyrics sung by a bunch of women singing in English from the States, it was just basically bringing my two worlds together and showing Ona is basically that all women is one woman. And no matter where you're from, what age you are, what ethnicity you are, what religion you are, there's something about being a woman that grounds us all together and connects us. Oh, powerful. It's nice to hear kind of that shared cultural background on it as well, because I didn't realize that there was that kind of Croatian element to it. But yeah, all the whole kind of fire going in there just sounds so powerful and I don't know. Thank you. Sounds great. And you've also got, can you tell me a little bit about Pacha Mama? Yeah, so Pacha Mama came about after I took a trip to Peru to visit my best friend who was getting married and she happens to be with her husband, their eco-conservationists. So I was thrown into basically almost two weeks of this incredible nature experience and being so close to mother nature and seeing how in Peru this idea of connection between tourism and nature and being connected with the earth is just such a big part of the culture. And it really moved me and being in these beautiful surroundings, seeing how rejuvenating nature can be actually, it was really, really a moving experience. And Pacha Mama is the Quechua word for mother nature, the ancient Incan Quechua word. And so this idea of Pacha Mama was like a theme throughout our entire trip and it just made me think when I came back to New York and was surrounded by concrete and this is our normal life, it was even more prevalent to me how far we have all come as human beings from being connected to nature and how we are so involved with ourselves as a human race that we don't understand that what we do to the earth we actually do to ourselves and mother nature will survive far beyond the years that we will be able to survive. And we just can't seem to understand that she will rejuvenate, she will be reborn and you know will fix herself but what we are doing to her is directly impacting our lives as human beings. Absolutely I mean listening to it you know it comes from a personal experience for you but for me listening to it I know the parts about the fires and burning and all that just makes me think of like the fires in Brazil and all sorts of you know just global environmental catastrophes. Absolutely I mean it's just mother nature has been giving us signs and signals for years. I mean even this is something that hasn't even been on really the global news but Croatia where I'm from last Sunday experienced an almost six on the Richter scale devastating earthquake and it leveled it leveled the center of the city where my entire family lives so in the midst of the virus and all these things that are happening you know the earth is shifting things are things are moving and we have to respond to it. Yeah I mean it's it's a pretty chaotic time right now you're in New York City so what can you just for a moment detour from Valo and just what's it like in New York City with the quarantine. It's very scary I mean it's my husband and I live in Queens which is actually the epicenter of the virus in New York City right now so Elmhurst Hospital which is about a 10-15 minute walk from our house is just inundated with people waiting outside in lines all day all night all morning trying to get in because they're sick it's a very you know it's a working-class neighborhood which is also showing the you know economic differences between groups of people that are also affected by this virus it's it's very it's very scary and we've obviously had a lack of guidance from our federal government in terms of how to handle all of this and we were very late as a country in getting on board with how to prevent the spread of the virus and it's you know we're not at the point of where Italy got to yet but it's it's getting there and it's very scary yeah I mean we're on the other side of the coast but we're very close to Washington and and they're having a similar outbreak there but I think New York right now is probably the worst in the nation so that's it's brightening place to be and I hope you guys can stay safe and healthy yeah I hope so too I mean we're we're doing our best I think this is also one of those rare instances in history where my personal decisions directly impact your health and so it's a different thing to think about that you know what I choose to do in my daily life is not so much about my own health and my own safety but I have to be worried about the safety of my neighbors the safety of the people that are around me that I don't even know I can impact their health without even being aware of it so that's something that I don't think has really sunk in yet for a lot of people yeah I mean I've got a neighbor who's a nurse and another neighbor with a one month or three month old baby you know it's kind of you just want to make sure that you're not infecting other people or yeah I like that but well I'm glad you guys are able to stay safe even though you're likely quarantined up the in your apartment yes we're quarantined but um but you know I've spent actually the majority of my quarantine very very busy um with another TC Helicon artist Serentip who's an incredible um singer songwriter loop expert and uh and we've basically teamed up with another friend of ours a saxophonist Owen Broder here in New York and we created an online music festival and fundraiser uh for to raise money to give grants to New York City musicians who have lost all of their work in the wake of the virus so from it's great to hear I mean so many musicians right now all tours and everything has been canceled yeah I mean all of my work until middle of August has been canceled wow amazing so you know we have to find a way to continue making music I mean this is going to be a very interesting shed experience so to speak I think a lot of artists are going to be forced to just work on their craft develop their craft to brighten your music create new forms of expression and I think around this time next year we're going to have a lot like an outburst of art which will be pretty powerful well that's something exciting to look forward to I hadn't thought about that way but yeah I mean you know in in times of crisis it's always art and culture that makes a generation remembered by something so when you think of any artistic historical event you know it's usually connected to some sort of societal political environmental change that artists are trying to wrap their heads around and and express in some way so I think this is going to be a really big opportunity for a lot of people to just dig deep and and find things that they didn't know existed before absolutely and I mean you're kind of at the epicenter of it so you're going to be just in the where all the art and culture is coming from I guess yeah yeah which puts you in a great spot I mean your album's being very well received and you know working it's just you were talking a little bit about the the live in the living room is that what it's called yes it's live from our living rooms and that one you said you had a couple write-ups about that as well yeah it's it's unbelievable I mean we put this together in less than two weeks and got some of the biggest names in our you know jazz world to be on board which was also very heartwarming to see how musicians who are considered the top tier in our field how quickly they jumped on the opportunity to help the community which was it's been really wonderful to see how willing everybody has been to help but because of our stellar lineup we immediately got a write-up and Rolling Stone we got a story all of our own we've been written up in Broadway world and jazz times and jazz is all about jazz we have a Wall Street Journal article coming out this week so and we you know also have something coming out in the Financial Times probably so we're really exploding somehow which is wonderful because the the purpose of this festival which is happening from April 1st to 7th is that it's going to bring attention to our fundraiser and the fundraiser is going to help us give these relief grants to artists who apply for aid absolutely and so many people could use it right now yes yeah I mean a lot of people don't think of musicians as kind of their own entrepreneurs and freelancers but in a lot of ways they really are I mean you're always looking for yeah and we're and we're really really happy to be working with a wonderful nonprofit as well called Music Talks which is a great organization here in New York City and they have agreed to be our fiscal sponsors so that we can receive tax deductible donations which is attracting institutional support and and larger grants from individuals so it's it's been a really really amazing group effort let's say fantastic and do you see this is something that you want to continue on in the future or does that depend on kind of where the virus takes I mean we'll we'll see you know what we we've set ourselves up to potentially be an ongoing thing we've actually gotten so many inquiries from fellow musicians in New York who now want to perform for the festival because we have we basically scheduled a one week a one week festival with four events a day four live streamed events a day an 11 30 a.m. children's show because children are home from school and we want them to be educated and have music in their lives then we have a 3 p.m. and this is all New York New York East Coast time it's 3 p.m. master class for interdisciplinary show and then two evening performances so it's a very ambitious project but we only scheduled one week and now it looks like we may actually open it up for a second week of the festival so wow congratulations thank you you you also are on the cover of downbeat I was I was it's unbelievable so many things have happened that it just you know it's it's a huge complex bag of emotions and events but yes I came out on the cover of downbeat which will which has just gone to print you know at the end of March but it's for the May 2020 issue and it's I was on the cover with my husband drummer and composer Antonio Sanchez and it's basically talking about our musical collaborations as a couple but also our individual projects and our records and you know the things that we're doing in parallel with each other but as strong independent artists and it was it was a huge a huge deal to be on the cover of that magazine that's fantastic to hear well congratulations we're really excited for all these fantastic things happening this month thank you thank you yeah it's it's it's great and you know of course every chance I get I'm mentioning TC Helicon and all the things that this company has you know given me in the way of figuring out what I was saying before before it broke up is that in you know I've been doing so many interviews recently related to the record and of course now related to this festival and it's been it's been an amazing opportunity to kind of explain everybody's been very interested in my setup as an artist what I do live and how I'm actually you know my record is very produced and the question is always you know how do you do this live and then they see these videos of me looping and doing effects and things like that and so it's been it's been amazing to also share the information about TC Helicon and I've been you know starting to give lessons online to people all around the world who want to use the voice live touch too and it's it's really I've been doing master classes and people are starting to know you know associate me with the live touch too and all the looping and effects that I incorporate in my music so it's been uh it's been able to do that as well I should hope so because you you use it amazingly well which is a great segue to talk about teardrop you've got a cover on your your latest album that it's got a lot of acapella elements to it is that right and it seems like it uses the voice live touch it does yes um can you talk a little bit just about how you use the voice live touch too on this this specific song yes absolutely so you know one thing that I really love about the touch too is in the most basic sense just being able to control my own reverb I feel like I am whether I'm recording or performing live I have the control over you know I'm a self-sustaining entity because I come with a package I know exactly how I want my voice to sound and the voice touch too the live touch too helps me achieve that so um you know I have this complex programming of different kinds of reverbs and delays and and you know granular delays and all of these different things based on which part of the song I'm in so in the beginning it starts with this acapella loop of this line that I created and then it just loops round and round and I add a little bit of a beatbox but it's almost like a beatbox with you know that isn't a true groove yet it's really just more of sounds and you know the the touch too has this incredible ability to make your voice almost sound like a synthesizer when you when you combine a couple of different kinds of effects um and that's something that I have discovered actually using it live and then recording with the touch too and then doing post production afterwards it's just this unbelievable perfect storm of effects that's great to hear and do you do you use it with the voice that touched you do you use it with your computer with a DAW or mostly do you just record like a performance and then edit it in post yeah I mean basically what when I was in the studio I was recording it um into Pro Tools and then I would mess with it afterwards if it you know if I needed to add something but most of the post production was done in terms of like keyboards and and that kind of stuff but I really got so much out of just the pure effects on on the touch too which was incredible and speaking of just kind of making those sounds of your voice you said you know you're able to make your voice sound almost like a synthesizer a lot of songs of this album have that kind of depth and layer just I apologize I'm not the most all the the scatting and both harmonies and everything that you're kind of pulling together and just creating this really these layers mix it's really impressive and from what I can tell it sounds like a lot of that is just made exclusively from your voice yes yeah I mean that was that was kind of the idea and that's you know it all kind of ties into the theme of Ona so Ona is one woman me Ona is all women and it comes basically the sound comes from the source and you know and basically the the effects from the TC Helicon have just like helped me achieve that philosophical idea musically you know speaking of effects so you mentioned you use a lot of like reverb and teardrop but in the resistance it sounds like you're using more of like some megaphone effects what yeah megaphone effects yeah definitely there's a lot of distortion I really wanted this idea like a call to action you know I wrote this song after I attended the women's march in 2017 and so I had this image of me and Stacey and Chin the the poet who recites her poem just literally standing in front of thousands and thousands of people with a megaphone and screaming into the crowd just a call to action and so the various distortions and like ring modulators and all of these things that the touch to allows it just kind of we put it all together we did a lot of layering of the same thing using different effects and then pulling those different tracks in and out and so that that gave just this kind of three-dimensional aspect to some of those sections and so are you planning to take this album on tour absolutely I mean unfortunately the tours were all canceled until I'm trying to reschedule I had an you know like a US an east coast US tour in April and I'm trying to reschedule that for September there are a few things in Europe in July that still haven't been completely canceled but they've been put on hold until we figure out the global situation so you know the big questions for musicians you know the question is going to be even when the virus stops spreading how quickly will people become comfortable with gathering in large groups you know again and it's I think it's going to probably take a year yeah there's definitely going to be kind of a freeze period where people are a little hesitant to just jump back into everyday life but hopefully with proper quarantining we can nip that in the bud yeah you know back to concerts soon yes hopefully I mean you know it's it's it's it's a strange time because as musicians I mean you know we do spend so much time in the shed writing music producing music but at the end of the day we do it so that we can perform it live with other human beings so the the lack of that live performance aspect of what we do is so it's a strange spot to be in so I know that myself and all musicians that I know are itching to get back out on the road as soon as it's safe and to bring this music around the world and so with this uh this album you're talking about how kind of a lot of the stuff you did in that the studio people are asking how are you going to do it live so yeah can you talk a little bit about um what plans or preparations you've made to kind of convert this album into a live performance absolutely I mean I have um every song that I perform live from the album I mean every song on the album I have either like between one to three programmed channels on the live touch too and basically throughout the song depending on what section I'm in I go back and forth between these preset channels and I have different harmony layers you know with with these semitones I have different kinds of reverbs different kinds of delays different loop settings I mean basically I have preset everything so that it makes it much easier and quicker to do live because a lot of times what happens with live looping is that you spend a lot of time setting things up and then you just kind of lose you lose a little bit of that in the moment magic let's say I know what you're talking about yeah yeah so I I've spent countless hours aside from the recording just figuring out how to do this live and thankfully I did have a couple of tour they were like trial run tours even before the record came out I toured this in Italy I toured it a couple times not touring but I did a few gigs in the States just individual runs just as trial runs to see how how the music flowed together what I could do effects wise and and it's it's really close to the record I mean I'm very proud of how how it came out and do you have to bring many people with you to perform songs likeona or you know with the ones with the choir or anything like that no so the the choir I actually loop all of that live okay yeah so I unfortunately can't afford to have you know 13 piece band with all the singers and everything on the road with me so that's basically what I've figured out how to do how to recreate those sounds those moments in the tracks just doing it myself wow that's awesome I would love to hear the library oh I hope you get to as well I have to bring it to Canada yeah absolutely let's know when you're when you're all the way to the west coast yes um so uh let's see I had another question I wanted to ask you see these songs here did you want to talk a little bit about your partner he did a lot of the drums on this album is that right yeah he did he did all the drums yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's an incredible musician composer in his own right five-time Grammy award winner golden globe nominee he wrote the drum score for the oscar winning film bird man I don't know if you saw that really I had no idea yeah Antonio Sanchez he's an incredible musician and it's a very new york film as well it is a very new york film it's true but uh but he um you know he and I have been together for now going on 11 years and so obviously our work together and as individuals has just kind of gone on this really wonderful path together we trust each other's ears so much and we have this kind of co-producer relationship where we we workshop the tunes and figure out how to make them the best that they can sound and so he not only played drums on the whole thing but he co-produced the whole thing with me did a lot of the post-production with me and um and you know he just has these golden ears and he hears things and um you know we we we play off each other very very well just from our compatibility as a couple but also as musicians we really we really respect what the other one hears and so I think it it yields at an incredible product oh that's that's awesome to hear and I basically answered my other question if we looked at like you know working with your your husband on tour and in the studio and that just sounds like you guys yeah I mean we it is it's a great it's a great relationship working and personal relationship uh I also sing full-time in his group which is called Antonio Sanchez in Migration and it was actually in his group you know because we've been um touring his records and his group for the last three or four years you know while my album was in production so actually a lot of the things that I discovered on The Touch Two came from doing things live with his band and then applying them to my music so so in his band I really am more of a more of a an experimental instrument you know we do much more you know kind of crossover modern jazz where I'm singing a lot of wordless melodies there's a saxophonist who also plays the iwi electronic wind instrument and so he and I do a lot of doubling counter points but also these crazy electronic sections where the band doesn't know whether it came from the iwi or whether it came from me and The Touch Two so it's really incredible how the you know the use of the effects has made my sound in that band also it's exciting to hear because the voice is such a versatile instrument it's what we always say and hearing you use it as you know a voice and an instrument together sometimes at the same time yeah is really impressive um what let's see what's the next question I wanted to ask you on this album there's just so many things to talk about about it I'm so glad so you this album is a lot about empowerment of women and you know you talk a lot about like some modern things like the resistance is tied to to you know the women's march and protest and Cassandra seems to be a tide a little bit to the me too would you say absolutely yeah was that inspired by any particular events uh or any events in particular or just kind of the movie I mean it was a little bit of both you know as a young female musician coming up in New York it's you know you experience a lot of things a lot of unfortunate things thankfully nothing uh nothing has happened to me that has been life changing in terms of violence or aggression but there have been countless episodes of inappropriate touching inappropriate comments um not taking mysteriously because I'm a woman because I'm a singer you know and just trying to basically sexualize my job as a vocalist and so that has been difficult to overcome which I think most young female musicians have to go through not have to they shouldn't have to but they do and when all of the things started to happen with Harvey Weinstein and the me too movement I started to think about just the idea of women being heard and listened to and believed and you know Cassandra is a famous figure in Greek mythology she was seduced by the god Apollo and in his seduction he offered her the ability to see the future and when she refused his sexual advances he cursed her with the ability to see the future but that nobody would ever believe her prophecies and so when people call you know sometimes climate change you know climates supporters are called Cassandra's of the world or people that see something that's happening in the future but they're not believed or in the case of the me too movement you know people that have had horrific things happen to them and have either been silenced or not believed and it would just just made me think about that and that was that was what is it was really for all of the Cassandra's of the world who have something to say and who may not be heard yeah that's a lot deeper than I I realize and I can kind of see some ties to Pater Mama and that one as well absolutely speaking you talked a little bit about kind of you know people wanting to sexualize in New York and all that kind of up-and-coming artists you have a song in here that you kind of claim your sexuality back yeah animal instinct absolutely that's a that's an exciting song what can you talk a little bit about that one yeah absolutely um you know I mean again the the album itself as a whole all of the tunes basically describe what it feels like from my perspective to be a woman so it's my femininity unapologetically explained in each tune and animal instinct is a part of being a woman it's it's a part of being any human being but for some reason historically female sexuality has been become a commodity almost it's you know our sexuality exists for the purpose of satisfying others as opposed to us having our own needs our own desires our own dreams our own feelings about all of that and I happen to be in a very happy marriage and a wonderful relationship that has let me be free in how I feel about my own sexuality and and this song explains that explains that without any filter and explains how proud I am that I feel like a sexual being comfortable in my own relationship well that's awesome to hear and yeah it sounds like again it sounds like you have a great relationship with your husband we'll see after the quarantine I think that's one thing that I really appreciate about this album is that you know so much of it is very personal and it seems like there's like a lot of messages and a lot of stories like every song almost feels like a ballad and I know like rock ballad and all that has connotations with it but with this one I mean it and that's like every song is a story has a little kind of story tied to it and yeah I mean like I really love set free and you taught me which is more about your relationships with two men in your lives your brother and your father set free is a very sad song but really powerful yeah yeah no I mean it's uh it's like I said it's it's about the the way that I feel like I am a woman in my life so I do happen to be a sister I do happen to be a daughter and I have have relationships with those two men unfortunately my brother passed away almost 10 years ago and so set free is really from the perspective of a sister and a sibling setting free the intimacies of that kind of relationship that have to do with your entire family history so there are certain things that you share with your sibling or siblings that nobody else can understand no matter how close of a friend you have or how close of a spouse or life partner you have you know or even with your parents there are just certain things that you share with a sibling that stay with a sibling and so a part of that had to be set free when I lost my brother and then similarly to the song you taught me you know I have an amazing father who um really showed me what it means to be a man who respects women respects their choices may not always agree with you but doesn't stand in your way in terms of not allowing you to achieve what you feel you need to achieve and um and you know my father and I have disagreed on many many things and had you know ups and downs in our relationship just like any other relationship but the whole point is that I feel that I've been able to create a work like this because of the people in my life and that includes the women in my life but it also includes the men in my life that's a really big part of it absolutely I mean this album feels like it's comprised of a lot of components of you made out of all these different aspects and really you can feel it all pulled together there thank you I just wanted to return to the voice I've touched you for a moment yeah you said that a lot of things for this album oh you said that some of the elements was uh album you learned while touring um what do you feel like you still have more things you could learn with the voice I've touched you have you oh yeah I mean the touch to is such an in-depth complex instrument I really feel like even though I've become very good at the things that I've become good at I am only getting my toes wet in this incredible effects pool you know I have so much that I still want to learn how to do and I'm sure so many things that I have yet to discover I mean for example Sorrentip and I we actually did a duo session last year where we got together with all of our individual effects and we did a we did a little kind of improv exchange for a couple of hours and she showed me some things you know like for example um connecting like some kind of MIDI controller and using the mic to you know have different harmonies and crazy things that you can do and I you know I haven't even started I haven't even like opened that can of worms yet so there are so many things um that I also feel really um grateful to be in this kind of relationship with other vocalists who are using the same um uh products because we're learning from each other and we're you know having this creative exchange about how we can use these products and it's just it's amazing it's really amazing well that's great to hear I mean Sorrentip is actually uh I believe how I first heard about you was yes it's thanks to her this thing sir but uh for people who aren't familiar Sorrentip is another vocalist and also electronic artist who uses the perform be and uh both of those allow you to kind of modulate and modify your voice um but uh voice live touch too is I would say probably a little bit more of a powerhouse uh on that I mean it's just it's such a it's really I mean it can do everything it can really do everything um let's see were there any other things you want to talk about on this album uh in terms of using the voice live touch too or uh any experiences tied to the album that you really want to share I mean I think the most exciting recent experience I've had uh which actually gave way to my newest project which is a duo with my husband a vocal and effects duo with drums is that this past this this past NAM show in January 2020 we were invited to perform for Yamaha because my husband is a Yamaha artist and we were obviously traveling together we had come from our uh you know we had been performing and then we went on vacation for holiday and then we went to LA for NAM and I of course had all of my gear with me as I usually do because we were performing before the holidays and he emailed Yamaha and said look you know Tana is with me and so can we just do a duo improvisation and we had kind of been threatening to do a duo project for for a couple of years just because you know we live under the same roof we do so much stuff together and and we are both getting more and more interested in electronics he's also using a bunch of electronics with his drums and you know triggers and things like that and so they wanted him to come and perform on this new kit that they were um promoting for Yamaha and they said sure you know I mean I don't know what Tana's going to do but you know go ahead and we had no plan for what we were going to do I was terrified because I usually like to get on stage knowing at least how I'm going to start and finish this song if I only have that as a jazz musician that that's great but Antonio was like you know we'll be fine let's just start you know let's start and see where it ends up and we'll land together because we always we always do and that's a lot of trust that's nice what what ended up happening two days in a row were two completely different performances electronically charged with you know all of the effects and not only did I use effects on my voice but I used effects on his drums so I would trigger different delays and and distortion and things like that and I would bring my mic to his drums while he was playing you know different parts of the cymbal under the cymbal on top and so it was really interesting and then I would loop his stuff that I was basically picking up through my mic and then I would play with it after the fact with all of the effects and the sliding and so it was just it was a really really cool experience and and the video that we shared online actually went viral in the first two days I mean it was shared like you know reviewed like more than 30 000 times in two days or something yeah which for a jazz musician is going viral jazz jazz is definitely a little bit of a subgenre there it's a tone genre and it's all right population wise but I mean in terms of the the jazz world uh as an improvised vocalist like you really use the voice I've touched you so so well and I think I mean I don't know in your experience but it seems like the voice I've touched you does allow you to really improvise a little bit um oh yeah how your voice comes out sounds and shape it and hold it absolutely I mean it also allows me to like create blankets of sound to to just fill up the space it basically allows me to float on top of something you know that that's obviously the the the the amazing thing about looping in general but just being able to do that kind of thing with added effects that's what's so cool about it and then obviously changing the sound of the voice with the different effects and then just seeing all of the different possibilities of how you can change then the loop you can change the dry vocal on top you can change um you know what's going in what's coming out it's it's really the the it's endless the the possibilities well I think the possibilities for what you're going to create is endless as well because we're very excited to see what else you create coming out with the voice I've touched to and at tc helicon we're really excited about this album thank you think that what you're doing is really awesome and fantastic and we really just love seeing artists who take our products and push them to the max and really experiment and push them to the next level and we think that you did that so thank you so much well if you want to see it in action for the live from our living rooms dot com music festival and fundraiser Antonio and I are going to be doing a live stream video on April 7th at 7 p.m so April 7th at 7 p.m that's right we're going to be streaming right from our home studio in the basement and I'll be using my effects and and he's going to be maybe using some of his effects but he'll definitely be playing drums and we're just going to do the same thing that we did at NAMM just a an open-ended crazy concert duo fantastic and will you be performing that in your living room we will be performing it I mean it's our living room it's like our it's our studio living room yeah yeah and sarin tip and her boyfriend who is also an incredible drummer they they also have a duo performance coming up for the festival vocalists and drummers they're just getting together these days we're taking over the world man um and then so the festival uh starts April 1st is that right April it starts tomorrow fantastic yeah so great well and then uh let's see and then in May you've got the magazine dropping and yeah I mean the digital edition is already out so we're very happy about that and you know depending on what happens with the virus we're not sure when we'll get the physical copies but the digital edition is already available online at downbeat.com great so people can read the article about oh yeah your work with the Voice Life Tech Studio your new album and absolutely catch the new album on Spotify and iTunes and all all the music venues or music streaming platforms music downloading buying platform also if you would like to support artists during this crazy COVID-19 pandemic also the album is the album is available on Bandcamp for purchase excellent yeah perfect all the opportunities all the opportunities well I don't have any further questions but uh did you want to have any final words you'd like to share with the audience I'm just uh you know I'm just very grateful to be able to do what I do especially in a time like this you know this is a crazy crazy time in the history of our world and to be able to be an artist and express what you know it you can be kind of like a filter for what's happening around you and how you're perceiving everything and it comes out in the form of music and expression and the fact that I have these incredible um instruments to work with in the way of looping and effects it's just uh it adds to the whole realm of possibilities and allows me to create even more than I could have ever thought possible so I'm really thankful to TC helicon and for you guys for supporting me and for you know seeing what I'm doing and and showing that support and I really just appreciate you guys well you all of that comes from your incredible voice which is its own instrument and its own right so thank you you need to be thinking anyway you should thank yourself and your fantastic abilities we're just we can we can thank each other awesome all right all right well I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me today uh Tana and um I just hope that everyone goes out there and listens to your record because it's it's just an amazing powerful uh beautiful album thank you so much tat I really appreciate it and thanks to everybody at TC helicon yes thank you