 Welcome back to entrepreneurship Tuesday on why and the morning I'm sorry for joining you this late but Alex held it down for us and thank you very much for tuning in throughout all the way to this time my name is Barry Moses or it's very much on every social media platform and it's time for another interview so today we are focusing on the arts we started with the film festival now we are into the theatre arts before I introduce my guest remember we have a question on Facebook how much do you spend traveling during the festive season how much do you spend traveling during the festive season as for me I just spent fair to my rural area and back how much do you spend for your holiday how much do you spend to go see your loved ones we'd like to know that so that we might come up with a with a budget for something you never know what the budget is for so this is on our Facebook at white five four on Twitter we are we are at white five four channel on Instagram at white five four underscore channel and you can hit me up directly at it's very more so to my guess these guys have a play that is covering something that is facing so many youths in Kenya it's about depression primers on the 15th of December at the Liberty Hall in Pangani and we have Collins and Daisy who are cast members we're going to share the light on this particular player here Karybunisana thank you all right your camera is number four to trans another lady has introduced believe you okay my name is Daisy Nabu I am an artist theater actress yeah all right Karybunisana Karybunisana Madam Daisy thank you my name is Collins Motonga I am an artist and actor yeah all right Collins as people look at you like this and as people look at Daisy they might guess you guys want to study this thing that you're practicing right now which is not the case what's your background in education in education after from fall I went to Uganda and I did bachelor's in law after I was done I went to Mount Kenya University and I'm just finished with a degree in journalism and mass communication so why didn't you share this information is it a law thing to hold some information you asked where we were currently it's nice to know it's nice to know that I have two lawyers in the building what about your background in education after clearing for I studied law all right so after that you went into theater at and that is the reason that you are casted for this particular play yes all right so I'd like to get to the casting stage how did you know about this play how did you know about this idea how do you know about this project first the projects I met the producer Joel and the script writer Malvin Idaqi way back like six months ago and they were talking about a depression play I had a few ideas that I shared with them and Malvin said he's going to write the play he didn't have the title then so it was just the script was there no the script wasn't there yeah the idea was there but the script wasn't there so after he wrote the script he called us for editions and that is when we auditioned and I was picked all right wonderful how much you already know about this Lee first I've been in stewards production for quite maybe two years now you've been working with them yeah I've been with Malvin I first met him in 2016 while he was training drama at Kenya aeronautical college in Wilson and we've been working with him since all right there's a drama department that's very interesting all right so the pilots also participate in co-curricular and that's yeah all right performance is an art yes for sure yeah how did you know you can do this and I started acting way back when I was in primary school I first acted as a chief when I was in class five you that was your first role ever it was my late teacher she passed on her name is madam Lucosi and she gave me that chance to act as a chief I really did well after that I went to secondary school I mail I met Walter C 30 a very good director I joined the drama team and it has been my journey all through all right the thing our performance is that it gets you out of your out of your shell it gets you to a place that is very compromising because people are very you put yourself out there to be judged to be watched and all these things how do you how do you manage to keep up with that I tell people most of the time I feel myself and I'm on stage that is where I get in touch with the deepest parts of myself that I don't know and it gives me some kind of happiness that I do not normally carry around yeah okay I feel that so it's a passion for that I think that's the definition of passion right there exactly if you've never known passion that is that I remember we were on social media at right for channel on Twitter wait for four underscore channel on Instagram right five four on Facebook the topic of conversation is performance art and this play is going to be premiering on December 15th and it's about depression the topic depression is is not something we are used to as as as a people as a country we we try to suppress it especially for the boy you're not allowed to be to be moody you're not allowed to be stressed you're not allowed to talk about your problems but this is what you guys are going to be talking about in this way all right walking in and out of this way what am I going to leave with you're going to leave with some intensity and some thinking it's it's searching you're supposed to after the play you're supposed to go back home and think about life at large you think about your friends you think about your family you think about the people you know in your life are they depressed are they going through depression you know can they talk about it that is what you're supposed to think that is what you're supposed to live with after you watch the play all right depression depression depression we have had a number of suicides this year we have had a number of songs talking about depression and one thing is certain depression is a state of mind yes it's not something you can actually see like this no but it's still a disease it's listed it's a sickness yes all right so are you a survivor of depression yourself yes depression is there though there are some different stages of depression until when one decides to it gets fatal when one decides to commit suicide or kill his loved ones and so the people also kill their loved ones chances are they're depressed most of the time most of the time yeah so depression and all right acute depression gets fit all it can end up with the depressed person dying or the depressed person killing yes they snap they snap all right as a mind state chances are you're going to tell your friend you're not the first person to go through this you're not the first person to do this chances are you're not going to understand a depressed person so if you are living with a depressed person or you you you're figuring out somebody you know might be depressed what are some of the things tips you can give somebody who's living with a depressed person let alone the depressed person okay so if you're living with a depressed person you know they have that shell of emptiness and hollowness in them they they are angry all the time and most of the most of the time they don't want to be with people to associate with other people so if you're living with a depressed person all you need to do is talk to them listen to them don't talk much just listen try to understand them without judging them because what pushes people to commit suicide or what pushes people to snap is when they are judged you know I told so yeah people don't understand them at all like I told maybe I told Colom depressed and Colo went to tell another person you know what this is depressed because of this so that will cause snapping like Colo need more meaning yeah how could he do that so I snap all right so just be there listen yes don't talk much and don't talk when you say don't talk much don't talk to that person don't talk don't interrupt don't speak out of time when you're talking to a depressed person and also don't talk about them with other people talking to it these are some of the things we are going to learn at the end of the the play itself which which role are you playing in this film I'm the director of the play yeah I have a cast of around 15 actors wonderful actors all right yeah 15 wonderful actors I have been one of them yes which role are you playing in the film I play Delilah she's a very angry lady who just lost her son through suicide and she blames everyone she blames the society she blames the husband she blames the child so she gets into depression herself after depressed and the depressed the depression comes in as anger anger management issues so she's just angry at everyone all right anger is good but to some extent extreme anger is not all right so Delilah lost her son from depression so Delilah gets depressed as well and the story continues for more of that headstay to Liberty Hall in Fungari on 15th of December what time is it it's a 3 it's a 3 3 to 6 how much is it going to cost me to to watch this right now we have tickets alibar tickets 500 shillings VIP 1000 shillings but the alibar tickets right now will you'll get the VIP treatment when you come all right all right what is the capacity of Liberty Hall Liberty has a capacity of around 600 so how do I stocks last yeah that is it 600 is not so much so you might just miss your ticket right now all right let's since today is entrepreneurship Tuesday let's get into the business aspect of it as a director as an actor the big question is always is the money coming in is it sustainable can you survive off a theater art in this country as we speak yes if you're good at it if you're good at it you have to be good at it first you have to be you know complain at this theater but you have not perfected your craft yes perfect your craft you have to go out there and search for that opportunity you not just sit home and say I'm an actor and you know I'm a theater actress and I'm going to make it how are you going to make it if you're not going for those auditions are you going to make it if you're not going out there and perform me and showing the world that I am just sold the max city yeah all right so uh ticket sales are an avenue of making cash yes what are some other ways that you make cash in this theater at film like our production house stewards production we have sponsors and so you partner with brands yeah that is one thing yes so how do you pick the brands that you're going to partner with say this place about depression we are going to seek brands so your PR person has steward is there and says we need to reach out to brands so we are this place about depression what what is the criteria that you're going to use to pick the brands that you're going to reach out for for a particular project most of the plays that we do thematic plays and I have a touching with the society most of the most of the time so when you go to pitch the ideas to potential partners and sponsors will go to them and speak to them as a part of the society looking at from the society outwards all right so they are you bring them as part yes all right and they also benefit from this and chances are it's going to be a story relating to what this brand is trying to sell that is what you're saying yeah all right I feel that remind them your social media handles how they can get to steward and how they can get to buy tickets how they can get to follow you guys as well all right so I'll give you the chance to be be so to your role it up okay our stewards productions on Twitter at Stewards productions it's on YouTube Stewards productions and also on Instagram at Stewards productions my Twitter handle is Daisy Naboo on Twitter Daisy Naboo on Instagram Daisy Naboo on Facebook all right thank you very much yeah I'm at Kalu underscore C KWILU underscore C Instagram at in Facebook and Mutunga Collins Twitter underscore Kalu C all right so there in every business there's always the future what the future holds the vision with it and and speculations here and there what do you think is the future of theatre art from where you're sitting from where I'm sitting the future of theatre arts is actually the future itself theatre art is actually the future all right because when you go to film film has a low capacity of people and it takes an average number but with theatre theatre it's wide and the topics to discuss are very wide and are very theatre is basically the future theatre is basically the future because it's an experience in itself for sure it's different from watching and I recorded movie yes all right what is the future of theatre art the future for theatre is there especially now in Kenya we've come from a place where theatre was seen as Sarakasi now we have serious productions that are doing marvelous jobs we have still being one of them yeah we have poets who are doing wonderful in this we have dancers all these are in the theatre performances and I think it's there we're going there we're not there yet but we are headed there all right talking about the future we have the drama festivals every year for primary schools and secondary schools these kids leave high school with no place to turn to no place to head to a place to nash at their talent so they end up in university studying things that they want to be in practice is that way you're trying to help these kids actually universities also attend a festival all right all right all right thank you very much for the for the guys all right and then again again our production we like working with new passionate artists most of them come from the drama festival yeah for instance in this play we have a boy who has been his name is Shady he's been at Kaba high school he was doing the stand-up comedy and some plays I saw him on stage in 2016 and he's now working with us in this play and I hope that one day wonderful man so scouting is a thing you're doing for sure yes and that's how the industry should go that's how the industry can grow that's how the industry can sustain itself when you bring a new talent wonderful all right so as we wrap this up we have a question on our Facebook and I'm going to be asking you a few but a lot of advice to somebody who is acting right now and thinks I'm not really sure if I'm going to get into this because you know what would you tell this person if you're going to get into acting what is going to push you is hard work for me I always tell people that hard work when it comes to acting hard work beats talent any day because at the end of the day you will have the talent but if you don't have the passion and drive to go to stage trust me you will not make it at all so as you wake up every day be driven by the hard work that you have and believe that you're going to make it as an actor if you're not going to work out if you know if you don't have the passion you will better off without it yes all right I would tell any actor that is watching right now just keep doing what you're doing don't give up attend those auditions no matter where they are that is what I usually tell my actors go after the cure what they might be looking for you and when you get those roles don't go looking for stardom stardom is not what you're supposed to be looking at own your craft and you'll make it stuff to Kiki stuff to Kiki acting you should be doing it as a passion you should be doing it for real not for the fame thank you very much and to our last question now come you say it's on our Facebook how much do you spend on average at traveling during the first season and do you think it's worth it I spent I come from Bungoma County so probably fair to and from Bungoma is like 3,000 Kenyan shillings and I've not counted the males I'm going to have on the road it's basically 4,000 it's a lot it's a lot of money and then when you get there since you're from Nairobi you need to you need to cash up cash out a little bit yeah yeah all right so it's costly you mean do you think it's worth it you would you rather go somewhere sometime in May June yeah family is important you have to go spend some time with your mom and your family and just have that silent moment at home all right family is important despite the cost yeah despite the cost all right what about you how much on average would you use my traveling first I love traveling I go to places whenever I get some good money just book bus and travel but now on the holy day season I come from around so the counties around Nairobi County most of the time during this period I go to places that have not been to and I think it's worth it thank your life is more fun thank you very much for coming to show I the morning we appreciate you one last time remind them your personal social medias and how they can get the tickets okay on Twitter days in a book on Instagram days in a book on Facebook days in a book and our show is on the 15th of December at Liberty Hall don't miss keeping up with the shenanigans it is all going to be fun all right tickets okay they get the tickets tickets are on 07 08 4 5 4 4 1 9 just make a call make a call reserve you see it pay via and pay sir yeah reserve you see it and the only 600 tickets up for grabs and yes you already know hurry while it's talks last thank you very much for coming through guys we appreciate you and keeping up with the shenanigans is going to be premiering at the Liberty Hall in Pankani courtesy of Stewart productions all right and we have the main man himself Collins Collins and Daisy you are the director cast member and the rest of the cast is represented to the max so remember 15th of December at Liberty Hall in Pankani keeping up with the shenanigans 500 for an advanced ticket you don't want to miss this the topic is depression and I'm pretty sure you know somebody who's going through this so this will be a lesson I well learned for you my name is by Moses or it's by one every social media platform and we still have another interview lined up for you Alex is coming up next don't type that up