 Continuing on this, because a lot resides on data, Carlos, our identity and what we do with privacy. Thank you very much. It's again a pleasure to be with all of you in this panel. We had an opportunity to discuss that remotely via video conferencing. So yesterday during my presentation, I raised the issue of, I'm concerned of not making the human as a center of gravity of the fourth industrial revolution. So human needs to be in control of everything that is happening around humans and not the other way around. Now, one thing which is a highly concern for human is health. It's actually the health of the human, right? We are not talking about something which we should not be concerned. It is our health. And who says it's our health, it has to be everything else. It should be our data, should be our consent, should be our identity, should be our control. Now, what has happened if somebody in 2019 will have said that one day, we will be providing bio data at the same time that we are showing our password, at the same time that we are giving our mobile phone, at the same time that we are providing our geolocation, they will say, this is crazy. We'll never happen, right? So this is exactly what is happening today. We are, every day, every time, every airport, every hotel, every facility, we are actually doing that. And this is creating a situation which could get out of control very fast. Because I mentioned yesterday about the issue of social media treating human as consumers. But in the health industry, a patient is actually a consumer. The health industry lives on the patient, right? Seeker you are, more money the health industry is going to make. So behind all that is always a fight between who should own that data. Now, the data process from collecting data from as simple as a COVID test, all the way to the cloud, all the way to the analysis and back again to the response, includes many players and many of them, they are not secure. And as a cyber security expert, I always analyze every step of the security. And if you want a step is the one that has no security, the entire chain is compromised. Three weeks ago, the United Nations was hacking Geneva. Last week, many major multinational has been hacked. The hacking is becoming an industry. The dark web leaf of that. So it is so easy to compromise and hack a health industry organization that will not be secure enough to maintain the data. So what happened? The happen is that all the data goes to the dark web, all the data is then commercialized, all that data is available for hackers to further hack you. But there we are not hacking only our financial record. I mean, we could lose money or we are not hacking or eventually consumer behavior. Here we are hacking our health. Here we are hacking our bio health. Now, the problem of these applications and Weisky has been observing something like 60 apps, trustability apps, including the Swiss app, which by the way was rejected by the Swiss population because the security was not there, is that they are so easy to hack. I mean, those apps, then we are downloading our mobile phones. They are at 99% of the cases, not cybersecurity friendly app untested. So that means, for instance, they are not using digital identity. They are not segregating what we call the PII, personal identifiable information, who you are, what is your blood, what is your DNA, all that data which supposed to be only under your control and consent is now being provided together with your identity, which makes no sense because we have technology now like blockchain that allows you to segregate that. You can take your PII and encrypt under your consent and then I can give all the medical data I want, but I don't want that medical data to be ever be related to me. My PII, my PII is myself. It's owned by myself and it's like the key of your house. The key of your house is your key and eventually you give to somebody because you invite that person into your house and you provide to that specific moment and person the consent to access your house. But you don't give the key for always. You don't give the key unconditionally. That's what we are doing on health. We are giving our keys unconditionally. So the way of solving that is already there. One of the things that has demonstrated the COVID pandemic is that countries then they manage to fight the pandemic through a sophisticated digital transformation strategy part of the fourth industrial revolution. They are actually moving away of the pandemic with an amazing track record, protecting their citizens, protecting their health and protecting their economies. Countries then they were not ready. They are actually suffering and they are suffering a lot and this is not only developing countries. This includes many European and even the United States many states and others. And the reason they are suffering because the digital transformation has not been taken serious. So as we move forward into the fourth industrial revolution these principles then they have been very well tested and humans have been able to defend many crises, wars, atomic challenges and others. We had technology that was there designed to avoid that all this ends in the wrong hands. The COVID situation and I mentioned yesterday that in 20 years time when we will look back we will have forgetting about the pandemic and the COVID but we will have realized that it was actually in 2020 that they will enter into a dangerous phase where our information is being used without our consent. What is going to happen next? So as I mentioned yesterday as well technology are converging so now you have AI which is getting expanded with quantum computing and unlimited computing power with amazing amount of data. AI needs data, right? AI without data is like a children without education. AI needs data. And if data is a data which relates to host human AI will analyze this data with our control. The extension of AI which is what we call it the singularity on AI. It means the moment where one computer and we are about 20 years to the singularity moment one computer will be more powerful than one person mind a more intelligent than one person mind and five years later the same computer will be more intelligent and faster thinking than the entire collective human minds put together. That moment of singularity we don't know what is going to happen. I mean computers will maybe see host as a very slow very unhealthy humans and therefore we need to be enhanced and I tell you one of the industries that they are expanding on the health and this is the number one industry in many countries longevity is the possibility of extending the human life. I know many friends in Silicon Valley that they made a lot of money technology and now the only thing they think is they want to live 120 years or farther and for that they will do whatever is necessary to enhance themselves. So the creation of this superhuman or human with unlimited health capability and resilience is something that is contributed by the amount of data and amount of information we are giving to those algorithms. So the solution as I mentioned yesterday is very basic is go back to giving the human the control putting the human in the center of gravity. I fully agree about your charge of instant interconnectedness. 5G is going to allow that in 5G environments your house is going to be a laboratory your toilet is going to analyze real time your bio situation and bio behavior you're going to be tracked real time and you're going to be able to send that information but under your consent. The important thing as I mentioned before if we do not give to the human the possibility of having a final say in what data they produce final say on whether they want or not to indicate their PII at the same time that discloses the data we will get automatically into abuses. Now technology is there PII can be encrypted this is what our company does Blockchain and we have this discussion yesterday decentralized the information in a way that it is impossible to hack because it's decentralized in all the computers and they are part of the block once the data is minted either through NFTs or any other technology that data cannot be extracted therefore cannot be modified cannot be manipulated and it is under the consent of the person. So I believe that this is also a business opportunity to the health sector the health sector needs to apply the latest technology and the health sector by doing so will advance faster but they will need to abandon the thinking that a patient is a consumer. Thank you very much. Thank you Carlos. I think it makes the link also with what we heard yesterday on François's panel on technology post-pandemic and with Professor Suzuki presenting us the initiative on Japan related to managing global data sets creating a strategic advantage by the ability to leverage artificial intelligence and for sure this will be one of the tools that we've not used well in the current crisis and that will definitely help to address some of the unknown to discover some patterns that we might not figure it out ourselves in the way it evolves when you have so many unknowns so I think it's definitely an area where we've just started to look at it and I agree with you we have all these silos and this has been pretty mismanaged so far so can we get our act together and have a good approach to this data set I think this will be a difficult path I would leave for the audience the question of transhumanism aside it's not part of the debate please it's another question or otherwise I will have to give the word to Daniel again for a very long period of time so that will leave this aside for the time being but on the data set I agree