 Should I answer these questions by my own or should I involve the CEO who has ordered this project? I think I don't have enough strategic view on knowledge from my organization, and this is a question by Bea Tris. So should we invite top-level management, Daniel, because they have influence, they have mandates, or is it better to keep them out of the room in the in this stage? No, I think it's really good to engage them. I think it's really good to to go to the right level in the organization where you could get those answers and I think that is that is kind of a success factor as well to do that. I've been in several projects where we needed to lift this up on on such a high level because nobody could really answer those questions and nobody could really didn't really have mandates to make to make decisions and that was really a success factor for the project that we had to take it up to to the C-level in the organization because what happens usually is that all everybody in the organization want their question to be on the C-level, but most of the questions have been pushed down in the organization, but here's usually here's a question when it comes to custom experience that really should be on the C-level and the cost questions can't be answered lower down so really go go where you could get those answers and it will help you in implementing this and I think it's really good for experienced people to to go around and really connect experience to to KPIs on different levels in the organization. Yeah, so usually it's it's it's hard to involve and engage people on the C-level, but if you can that's really good and you can also explain like you just said why their involvement will help the project on the short term, but also in the long term, right? Yeah, but everybody wants them to be involved, so I think the important thing here is to to go to them with a question saying that this question is on your your your level. We can't answer this question because it's it hadn't been what do you say? Delegated down in the organization. So I need you. I have to borrow your mandate to date and then they have to be engaged. So they won't be engaged just because you ask for it because everybody asks for the C people to come to the important meeting and presentations and everything. They have to be where they where their mandate is needed. So we have kind of rigged that. I would say in my career of I mean 20 years of working with it we have rigged that sometimes to to have an excuse to go to the C-level with important questions to get them involved. So so in order to get them involved make sure you have a question that actually needs their input. Not just not just do you want to be involved in our customer journey mapping project. No, we need you to be involved to answer this specific question, right? Yeah, this specific question and also that you won't reach your goals without making a decision in this question or helping us out here. Yeah, makes sense.