 Ranting, reflecting, reasoning, rekening. It is now 20 to 6 and on the huddle this evening we have Debra Coddington. Hello Debra. Good evening Larry. And we also have from whaleoil.co.nz Cameron Slater is back with us. Hello Cameron. Hey Larry. I've got you both back tonight because we've got two issues. One is the Ports of Auckland Cameron that you're involved with and Debra the other is the sex thing that you've done a lot of research into. Let's start Cameron with you in the Ports of Auckland. Yep. Look I don't want to, I don't want you to give us any details of where you've got this information but anyway they've been... I won't anyway. No, Ports of Auckland are checking claims that leaked private employee information to you. Anyway it was the employee in my view who jumped into the spotlight mouthing off in the media and I see this as simply clarifying the facts and the fact is that this guy was treated very, very well by the Ports of Auckland. And recently as well with his new child but the union really is crying crocodile tears and the reason I say that is they've based this entire campaign around family sitting by the phone you know we can't take the Mrs Shopping all sorts of things like that based around saying that this isn't about money it's about our family life and it's about our families and then they've put up people, coached them, trained them to say the right things to suit that and this fellow even brought up his daughter and how she was in tears because she couldn't recognise her father. I'm sorry he brought family into this and he, you know it sounds harsh but he lied by omission and it's lying nonetheless and that's the situation that we're in. How I got the information matters not. If the information was coming the other way and we already know that the union has done that they've used leaked information that came from the ports and they don't seem to want an investigation into the leaks of documents that they've been using. See Deborah how do you see this? I mean this guy got five months leave, 21 weeks full pay actually not a lot of employers would do that I think. I'm talking quite clearly a good employer. Well leaving aside all of that what this shows is that you know people have got to remember when they go and talk to the media they've crossed a line and they have to take what follows. You know we are mongols on the media let's face it there's a saying for us we're paid gossip and you know he crossed that line and after that he has to take, he has to suck it up he has to take what follows and it does that as Cameron said it does sound harsh but you know he just has to, as I said he just has to suck it up he just has to keep quiet he can't then wail because it might not go his way after that. You can't just have a nice pretty story in the media and hope it all goes like that there will come some harsh things after that. Right see that's the thing Cameron they like giving it but they hate it coming back the other way. It was the old dad's army saying from Corporal Jones they don't like it up and you know it's true but I mean they're complaining that you know it was a tragic situation and it is a tragic situation but it doesn't stop Helen Kelly using three deaths in Tauranga to push their agenda. You know if you want to go shroud waving then I'm sorry there's going to be some holding to account and it's just a tragedy that the mainstream media has pretty much been missing in action and there's a reason why I've got so much traffic on my site as they like seeing the other side. We'll come back in just a moment Deborah Coddington and Cameron Slater with me on the huddle it's coming up 16 to 6. Deborah issue number two is there's a call for longer and stricter monitoring of a recidivist child sex offender who said to have rejected to any rehabilitation this is a Dunedin man Graham Purvis he's been jailed three times for sex offences he comes out on Saturday how do you view this we have a serial sex offender and he has rejected rehabilitation I mean it just goes on and on I mean some of these people just do not get rehabilitated he's you know part of his release conditions are that he's not to go near a computer an electronic equipment cable of connecting him to the internet how on earth can you monitor that it's impossible there's another one sent to jail today Glenn Roderick Holland yes again taking disgusting photographs of young girls I mean he's in my book too in 1997 senior sergeant Paul Harrell warned parents about this man back in 2002 again he was cited hanging around Epsom girls grammar and primary schools in Epsom police were warning people about him I know that I dropped the ball on this but it was expensive and it was draining but we need to do much more in terms we want we we expect parents to look after and protect their children but we're not giving them enough to do that here's the thing Deborah I'd be prepared to offer right now to to give my skills and my advice and to team with yourself and perhaps a sensible sentencing trust and we put together an online resource that keeps tabs on these people in a in an up-to-date fashion with recent photographs of them and we just simply start keeping tabs on the PC Deborah where is this Deborah where is the sex offenders register you had a bill where is it I had that bill it was drawn and then when I left Parliament it went into Rodney Hyde's name it came up again for the second reading and I don't know what happened it just nobody when it came up nobody from Act was there to vote on it I understand that there is renewed interest in it and I'm hoping that the National Party might pick it up and show the columns or pick that up it's certainly I think it's legislation whose time has come the heat has come out gone out of that it's not nearly so controversial now it's not the it's not a be all an end all it won't protect everyone but it might do something in terms of having a central registry with DNA photographs etc where people can have tabs kept on them with the public have access to that or would it be controlled that might be a step too far at the moment but at least they could go through a bona fide a source like a school principal the police the local policeman a justice of the peace or someone it could be use of pay and so that they there would be a fine for misuse of information I'd go further than that the sunlight is the best disinfectant here and we've just got to stop people hiding behind you know name suppression we've got to stop people hiding behind a whole bunch of you know various different methods that they use and we've got this recent case of the sex offender changed his name several times employed by eight or nine schools in South Auckland it's just appalling and they're able to hide using the system the reality is that sunlight is the best disinfectant and if you don't want to be tired and feathered as a sex offender or don't commit right well yeah that teacher wouldn't have got a job if there had been a sex offender's register I believe anyway just finally Deborah before we go Dunedin council they're still meeting looks like they'll waive this 400k they're offered they're owed by the Otago rugby union looks like they're going to secure more games at the New Stadium so quid pro quo sort of thing I mean they wouldn't have got the 400k anyway do you have any view on this no I don't think rate payers should bail in after all what sort of lesson does that teach them 100% degree with Deborah on that rate payers shouldn't be funding people's hobbies and it goes for the arts as well and it's just ridiculous as rate payers are now subsidizing a rugby team yeah but hold on let's let look that the rugby union wouldn't give them the 400k anyway it would seem so isn't the next option to get some revenue for the stadium by guaranteed games I'm surprised they didn't have guaranteed secure games in place in the first place they're not going to wind up and not have a football team in Otago I mean it's it's just legal hopscotch is what they're playing at the moment there'll always be a rugby team there oh yeah there'll be a rugby team out of the Highlanders but apparently they commitment to that stadium either and this is the thing the council is weighed under all this debt 200 million or something what does that tell you about councils that propose building stadia alright thank you Deborah nice to talk to you Deborah Coddington thank you Cameron and Cameron Slater on the Huddle