 Okay Yeah, I was just thinking about what John asked, you know, if it's if you're a ministry couple serving in the same How to really or for that matter it could even be maybe you're working the same office same organization or maybe You have a business and as husband wife you run the you know different aspects of the business And then so how do we not talk about that, you know, so See one good thing is It's it's good to talk about it and You know as long as both of you are in the same Want to talk about it, you know, maybe you're solving things and you have some creative ideas so maybe you You know, you feel like talking, you know, you know, it's it's not about just Something that drains you but something that really, you know, you're passionate about And you know you have the same vision So it's something that's you're passionate about and you want to talk about it. So there's no you don't have to restrict that, you know the thing is it should not be it should not substitute your You know your communication about yourselves. So that's that's the thing, you know, if if all that you're talking is it's going to be about About this about the work about the ministry and if that's going to substitute Talking about your feelings your emotions, you know, then then there is an issue. So that's the only thing. So you just need to You know, sometimes the one person is not ready to talk. So so they might so it's good to say, okay Can we talk about this some other time or I don't feel like talking about this right now? And yeah, so that's that's also fine. You know, let's talk about it some other time. That's I don't feel like talking about it So, yeah, you can defer that to another time Just felt that I should mention that Okay, so we are talking about listening How to be attentive listener? Okay, so let me just share the Screen again Okay, so when it comes to attentive listening, you're saying that we are hearing the person and with the objective of trying to understand the person trying to understand their feelings and emotions and not just the words that are being spoken We are concerned about or we are interested in the person. That is why, you know, I tend to listening helps to that To that objective, right? Okay, so first thing is to be attentive Okay, so how can I be attentive, you know, many many times we are we don't realize it But maybe we are distracted, you know in our communication in our talking, you know some I'm sure you've met with people And you're talking to them and they have a really hard time Focusing right they have a hard time listening to what you're saying They're just looking here and there and you're talking and you know, they look at you and then and then they are, you know they're looking at that other person may be smiling waving and You know, you you just feel that okay, this person is not really giving me their attention Right, they're being distracted so Giving your attention or being attentive Helps the other person to communicate or encourages the other person to communicate Being attentive also helps me if I'm being attentive It helps me to read it helps me to read between the lines. It helps me to me to understand the person Right, so being attentive You know, how can I give here some practical things? How can I give undivided attention? We have a lot of You know forms of distraction, maybe, you know right now our phones themselves, you know Very distract, you know, they are highly distracted So there's some social media feed, maybe your Instagram, you're the same and then You know, you're scrolling through your messages and and at the same time trying to have a conversation And it's it's not it's not going to happen You cannot be attentive because something else will catch your attention and you're being so preoccupied with that and When that happens there are the other person feels You know that you're they're not important enough or That you consider them not important enough to give them their undivided attention right you because Actually, you're not considering them as important enough. You're actually looking at the your screen and or your phone or maybe the newspaper and that is what is getting your attention and We as people we cannot, you know, much as People say that you can multitask and do things several things, but we We cannot, you know, there's only one thing that we can give our full attention to at the at the point In time so be attentive and try to put away all the distractions Maybe reading something working on the laptop, you know scrolling through this, you know Instagram or whatever Do it another time not when you know, you are having your Conversation not when you're trying to Listen attentively. Okay Second thing is to be open. So what do we mean by that now be open in the sense be receptive and Don't come to any conclusions don't jump to conclusions before Hearing the person out fully. Okay, so many times we We jump to certain conclusions about about the person. Okay about their character about, you know, whatever they are based on You know, not really based on what you've not heard them fully or even if you heard them fully You know, it's just come to certain conclusions. So the thing is to to be open to stay and To stay part of the conversation and not shut down midway Okay, based on what they said, right? Thirdly to be patient Okay, it's it's important to be patient to to listen Without interrupting, you know, it's a challenge, you know, especially If you're out of that personality where you want you want to hear the thing quickly you want it You want it now you want to be heard, you know Let them just say that if you're the person who's used to watching, you know videos on YouTube at Maybe one and a half times the speed or two twice the speed because you want to watch it Watch the information get the information and move on to the next thing like that kind of a person And here you have someone who is taking their own time. They're not coming to the point and they are you know beating around the bush and And so you're like very interrupt, you know, very very you're very impatient and you're saying, you know, please You know, can you come to this? Can you cut to the chase? Maybe sometimes we have to do that, right? We don't have time We have to do the thing and we're already running short of time and maybe there are some important communication important information that needs to be said Things to be done and then you might have to do that but not all the time so give people that space give your spouse the space, you know to Do not interrupt and many times we want to finish their sentence Now they're saying, you know this this time when I went to the even to the hotel. Yeah. Yeah, and then I was I I just You know sat down at the table. Okay, you know, because you're impatient. You're just finishing up their sentence You know, let this person get to the main point quickly so be patient Because being patient really is Helps in being a attentive listener helps it listen being being a good improves your listening Capability. Okay, then one more thing Be clear about what was shared Okay, so Just to make sure, you know, have you heard them correctly and Are you are you just nodding your head? You heard some noise some words? But it didn't you didn't understand it, but then you didn't want to you know, just you just going with the flow, right? You didn't even though you didn't understand it But you know, we just need to make sure that we heard them correctly so that we can understand them clearly right so Hearing correctly hearing clearly If you're not sure that we can always ask questions Like we can ask questions. So did you just say that and and paraphrase what they said? Repeat what they said. Did you just say that? that we will Meet at this place at five o'clock. Did you say that? So yes five o'clock right here Fine. And so you repeat you ask once one more time. It doesn't hurt to Clarify so you repeat and ask and then you can understand Another way of things of doing this is summarize. So maybe the The conversation is coming to an end and you just can just summarize it saying so so what we said was that You know, we'll do this this this this by this time, right? Am I right right? So so what you said was that this person this family is coming over to visit and They're not staying for dinner, but they'll leave is that is that what you said is that what was So maybe, you know, sometimes the other person has a challenge With regard to clarity and no sharing of ideas For whatever, you know, they just talking about various things and the summarizing helps you to understand Okay What would also help us to repeat repeat, but no, okay So this is what you're saying you repeat it repeat the eye and then you understand so understand the words understand the emotions Understand the body language and and so on understand the person. Okay. Now. What would help to be also To help in being a good listener is also to be risk To be responsible the responsive. Sorry So, what does it mean responsive in the sense to you know, I'm sure you found it you know, there are times when we spoke to certain people and They they had a very deadpan Expression so you didn't know whether they were listening whether they understood what you said or not Right, so you couldn't read their expression expression on their face. So you're thinking, okay Did that person understand what I said? You know, can I go on you're thinking all these things, right? So to be responsive means to to to give a response to what they've said and it can be Non-interrupting response, you know, you're agreeing to what they said You know, so that always encourages the person. Maybe you nod your head, you know So the person says, okay, I can go on I can share what I need to I can say what I need to say, right? Or maybe you can, you know In a very non-interrupting manner, you can say certain words like yes. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, that's true Yeah, I know these kinds of Words really help the other person to share as well and I say, uh-huh, okay Oh, I see. Okay. Really and that helps them to Speak and speak up and share that encourages them as well and also, you know for you as a person, you know, you also attentively listening and Our listening is helping the other person to share So this would also help Okay, as a listener, this would also help to be this a responsive and to be sensitive to You know, the tone of their voice the emotion of what is being shared and their body language You know, we're gonna read the body language when they read the tone of their voice Then you know, okay, you know, it could be the word the words could be. Oh, yeah, I'm feeling great but the cause of the tone And in which it was said, you know that though they said I'm feeling great They are not actually feeling great and because of the body language like though They said they were feeling great the body language communicated something else There was a conflict between the body language and the words did not agree So, you know that it's it's not right, you know, I mean, I'm sure you've seen those, you know Some funny videos where, you know, the husband comes and ask, you know, I'm going, you know Going out with the boys and I'm just, you know, this evening. We are watching This football match or this cricket match on TV and I'm just going out and the husband says then the wife says Yeah, go have a good time and And, you know, but but the way in which she said it was not really go have a good time. No, there was some problem But the husband did not read that at all And they said, okay, fine And then goes and then comes back and then everything was in a bad mode and and you only said that I could go You said, you know, but the thing is she didn't really mean it, right? So the words where, yeah, go fine It wasn't fine Right. So be sensitive to the emotions of what is said. Okay There is the in your notes, there is a listening skills questionnaire Okay, so there's a listening skills questionnaire and which is quite I think quite an eye-opener. Okay, so it says let me just go through some of these things. Okay When you're listening to someone, do you try to separate out the verbal and non-verbal messages? Yes or no. Yeah, do you look for what the other person is not saying or for any hidden agenda? Do you answer, sorry Do you ask questions to clarify anything that you do not fully understand or to check what you have received? Check that you have received the message correctly Do you reflect your understanding back to the other person with both verbal and non-verbal actions? Where you agree with the person, do you try to make that support known to make that agreement known? Do you give the other person your full attention when they are speaking? Even if they are not particularly Interested if you are not particularly interested, I'm sorry Do you try to keep an open mind and try to push to the back of your mind any opinions that you might have already On the subject. Do you take notes to assist recall? Okay, so so things like this there are about 20 questions Which I which are very very useful For to gauge whether you and I are good listeners, you know attentive listeners. Okay, so We suppose we do not have that skill then we can always develop that skill Okay, so we can always develop the skill to be a good listener Not all of us are born with that ability. Maybe, you know, maybe we did not even consider it We don't even think about it, you know to be a good listener. Okay, not just marriage But it also helps us in all other, you know professionally in terms of ministry You know when you work in a team It helps us in all other avenues as well And so so listening when it comes to communication and comes to listening It's an important thing It's not something to be brushed away and saying, okay, you know, when I get married or you know, I'll think about that No, it's it's an important skill and the world is you know understanding the importance of Good communication and also the good importance of good listening ability Okay, right. So so that's something that you can you can go through It'll be it'll be very useful Okay, so Genuine expressing. Okay, that's that's another thing that we're talking about which means that authentic communication Okay Efficiency for Talks about this. Let me just read out in that in the new king James as well and we look at the While we look at the good news You know translation So looking at efficiency chapter four It's about speaking edifying words right for and verse 29 says let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth But what is good for necessary edification? That it may impart grace to the hearers and do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God By whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness wrath anger Clamour and evil speaking we be put away from you with all malice and be kind to one another Tender hearted forgiving one another even as God in Christ forgave you Okay Let's read through the good news Translation do not use harmful words, but only helpful words The kind that build up and provide what is needed so that what you say will do good to those who hear you And do not make God's Holy Spirit sad For the Spirit is God's mark of ownership on you a guarantee that the day will come And God will set you free get rid of all bitterness passion and anger No more shouting or insults no more hateful feelings of any sort instead be kind and Tender hearted to one another and forgive one another as God has forgiven you through Christ Okay, so some very important instructions here on speaking edifying words on speaking words that are helpful and Speaking words that build up You know the other person So we have different ways of expressing ourselves, okay, for example, some people are very you know knowledgeable cognitive and the way they speak is Just to state the facts Okay, so Just to state the facts just to look at things very objectively Unemotionally, okay Some people are very emotional Okay, they can't you know not be emotional about things very very Emotional if we are talking about something that is bad Hurtful You know something that has happened and they get very emotional about it very agitated about it, right? You can see it on on your on their face Expression and everything the word choice of words. They've highly highly emotional, right? and So if they are joyful and they're just jumping they're they I speak it there, you know everything they are They they are very very expressive some folks When it comes to expressing themselves are very very loud You know culturally maybe that is the way it is, you know, maybe as it is it was the way You know, they spoke about things in the family, you know recently the one family You know, we had a wedding happened and in church and So one it was it was good to see the you know, how different the husband and wife right and The husband and wife's family also right because I got to meet with the parents and talk to them and So you see saw that the husband's side of the family very animated very loud a very energetic very loud Even, you know communicating everything the talk that is how they are they love their boisterous and the other family very soft, you know and You have to really push up the volume in order to speak louder and lean in to hear what everybody is saying and So that was how it was the thing is so I just reminded of this that They can you know, there's a lot of the point of being even aggressive, right? the way they speak and they say things and The opposite also, right soft-spoken very gentle so the different styles of Just being expressive in the communication. So While we have all this temperamentally Efficient for the verses that we just read For 29 to 32 and also efficient 5 4 so Let's use language use words Not foolish talking not course justing Something that is unsuitable for someone who is godly Right, we are called to be imitators of God efficiency talks about that, right? So let us use a defying words Let us use words that build up and not strike down not tear up the other person okay, so Really when we when you talk about communication when we talk about genuine communication genuine expression It's we need to use words that are helpful not harmful Words that build up people words that provide what is needed in fact Efficient for talks about the fact that there is an impartation of grace When we use edifying words like So there's an impartation. There's a divine empowerment Graces an aspect of graces empowerment divine empowerment So there is divine empowerment when we use words and the other person receives words that are Edifying okay, so shouting insulting Hating the other person Bad language obscene language vulgar language Let it not even be there Communication So it's very very important for us to you know because normally what happens is this you know With With the world outside. Okay with the world outside. We are very careful Maybe in certain environments. We are very careful like in an office environment. Maybe in a college environment Maybe in church environment. We are very careful about the words We know this is the acceptable accepted behavior or expected behavior Expected, you know words who we many times we you know, we we are very careful, but at home You know, that's when things change at home We have none of the masks right we let our guards down and We we whatever we are holding back or Whatever we are comes to us, you know The expression of the flesh You know, we don't reign in we don't hold back And this is people who are the closest to us. That's the sad thing We speak unedifying words. We speak words that cut down. We speak words that are you know, that that sometimes shock us We are speaking these words. We're saying oh, I'm a believer I'm a spirit-filled believer to praise and tongues. I'm a believer who ministers Then how can I be using these words? right so We need to be we need to be careful right so this is something that That we need to understand that we need to take seriously okay as as people who are looking forward to getting married preparing for marriage or As people who are already married, maybe, you know, maybe you've married for a long time, you know five years ten years, whatever, you know That doesn't matter just because you married for a long time does not mean that You can use words that are unedifying You can use insults or You know words that break down the other person Is one to add that, you know, sometimes people say, okay, you know, I can't be all that formal, you know with my spouse I can't be you know, we are we are very informal. We are very friendly. That's fine. Absolutely. Okay, you know No need to You know, say good morning to your husband. Good morning. You know, you don't have to you know, dude You don't have to be as formal But there's no excuse for insults There's no excuse for harshness right, there's no excuse for being rude right in in a marriage There's no excuse for that. We don't have to do that and That is to be avoided. Okay. So because sometimes people use that line of reasoning saying, okay We have been mad for five years ten years and this is how we speak This is how we talk to each other Right There's no politeness. There's no there's no manners and using words and it's it's hurting and we don't realize that at times and Sometimes the humor, right? There's cause just saying you're insulting the person you're insulting Maybe the physical attributes of the person you're insulting the habits of the person It's not helping then, you know, so there's it it actually amounts to Abuse verbal abuse Constantly putting down the person right maybe in the front in front of putting the person alone and Also putting down the person in front of family in front of children in front of, you know others and This doing it you think, you know, it's like we think, you know, sometimes it's just everybody's having a good laugh but the fact is that Maybe the person is not bold enough to speak up and say the spouse is not bold up the bold enough to speak up and say I'm hurting, you know, stop it. Maybe culturally that's not the you know thing done thing So they just keep quiet and silently suffer right and You know, there's a difference between laughing at the person and laughing with the person Right, so when when you're when you're humor is laughing at the person you're actually pulling down the person you're making fun of them But you when you're laughing with and that's a difference because the person also enjoys it's good humor You know, you're pulling their leg, you know expression being pulling the leg meaning that you're making fun Of one another and the other person is also enjoying it It's it's done in a healthy way But you know, it's a it's a fine line, you know, there's and you know it when that line is crossed and Whatever you're saying, whatever you're making fun of Actually results in hurting and it actually results in being rude and without any manners, right? so we need to be mindful of that sensitive about that and and stop any such And language because that will result in Breaking down of communication Breaking down of healthy communication. So So we need to do everything to prevent that from happening. Okay, so let's look at You know preventing Breakdown of communication. Okay Why does it happen? It happens primarily because of fear Fear that you will be judged and criticized. Okay, so if Which means that the person has had an experience of being judged and criticized for what they said Okay, so no matter what they say if there is constant criticism and constant disapproval then The person who is being criticized or disapproved will fear Speaking again Will fear speaking out again, right? So fear that you will be judged and fear that What I if what I say is You know, like we said, it's at a time of conflict as a time of you know, maybe having a heated discussion Maybe you're reasoning out certain things, you know, if you if what they've said In a moment of You know very close communication and they've said that and you use that as a weapon you use that to to Bring them down then when that fear Comes in when there's fear that okay, if I say this In future he is going to be using that or she is going to be using that against me So let me not say it Okay, so that's kind of a fear. Let me not say it. Let me just keep quiet. Okay, so there is a Communication breakdown meaning there's a it's closed out okay another Reason or reasons could be disinterest in that into this being preoccupied Okay, so if I'm let's say, you know, for example, if I'm the person who's communicating and if I you know If I'm not interested in talking to the person if I'm not interested in listening to that person To my spouse Or if I'm being inattentive very inattentive I'm highly distracted and in the middle of it sometimes, you know, maybe I just move out or I'm very preoccupied. Okay. I'm just thinking about a problem and some of these things are You know, it's not like a bad thing, but it you know, it's just some things that we need to just Be mindful of and avoid. Okay, like pre-occupied. You're trying to solve certain things There's a challenge at maybe a office or something that you need to work on and Your mind is working on it. You're occupied, right and then Here's this person who's saying certain things and you're just drifted off Right. So if that happens then the person also, you know, doesn't want to share the next time Okay, fear of being misunderstood The very real fear if I say this what if the person doesn't understand what if it actually results in You know, this person not understanding this person Taking it another way and it results in a conflict Then, you know, that's That's a that's a thing. So person doesn't want to talk. Okay, or maybe no time. No, there's no time no time Talking no time Intentional time being made to talk to one another Okay, a suppression of emotions or hiding of feelings that also, you know Results in breakdown of communication. Okay So we understand that, you know, the words that we speak I'm sorry before you go there in your notes, you will see that there is also a remedy Okay, so this this these things cause the Breakdown of communication, but there's also something that causes avoids this breakdown or helps us to come out of this Okay, so let's look at some of those Okay, if there's a fear that one will be charged to criticize The remedy is this. Okay, how do we come out of that? The restoration is this you decide that you will not judge or criticize the other person Even if you disagree on what is being said, right, we can disagree in a very respectful manner Okay We don't have to make fun. We don't have to be little person for what they said. We can disagree politely In a way that's that doesn't you know mess with the dignity of the person, right? We can do it respectfully. Okay fear that something that I say if it's held against me Agree, you know as the rules of engagement both of both husband and wife agree that okay. I'm not going to use this I'm not going to bring it up and Even if it by mistake you do that, you know, apologize Immediately when you realize that you apologize, okay So when and when there's a disinterest or inattentiveness, you know So you agree that you will spend time and if there is any kind of a distraction you pause Stop that stop what you're doing and maybe it's a you know Important call or important text that needs to be sent you you tell them, okay I just need to send this. Okay, or you know, you decide beforehand. Okay, I'm going to switch off my phone I'm going to put it on silent. I'm going to keep my phone away and you know, so that there's nothing that is distracting And you know some families have a rule, right? Okay, you know at the dining table. No phones No phones no laptops nothing at the table, you know, there's nothing she's gonna So sometimes, you know, sometimes we say, okay, I need to take this calls very very urgent and there are exceptions You can make exceptions, but as a norm You know at our home when they are having a meal together, you say, okay, no phones at the table Right. No phones no laptops nothing at the table. Maybe we're just going to you know Have a peaceful meal talk to one another and have a meaningful conversation with one another Right. So have those rules have those ground rules. Okay, and you know, if you fear being misunderstood share the concern talk to the spouse share the concern and Agree to actually speak clearly clarify and so that the other person does not Misunderstand what is being said? Okay Okay, now when it comes to the last one that we said no when it comes to suppression of emotions Choosing to hide the true feelings now. That's going to take time Take time to get over that fear right, so they are building trust building transparency and And then this fear of being misunderstood goes away. Okay, so so it's going to take time So agree to build agree to build your life. Okay We'll build a trust and transparency. Okay, so let's look at this Which is Power of our words. Okay, so I think all of us understand and how we have learned enough especially when we studied about faith And when we looked at God's word and so on we touched about this not touched upon this topic We study this topic the power of our words Okay, there's enough and more scripture in the book of Proverbs We talk about you know problems 18 21 talks about death and life are in the power of the tongue and those who love it will eat its fruit, okay, and We see in the book of Jeremiah Jeremiah chapter one where God puts his words Into the mouth of Jeremiah literally, you know, he just says open your mouth and he fills Jeremiah's mouth with words and then he says and so that you can build or I mean build up or You know pull out Establish and pull something by the roots so The declaration of the promises of God of the words of God bringing out certain things Okay, so so words can actually build faith What builds faith is God's word right when we hear God's word when we listen to God we confess God's word it builds faith in us or it can actually build unbelief in us our confession our constant confession of Not believing our constant confession or confession of fear can actually result in lack of faith And words also release our faith or release our doubt. Okay, so so words are powerful So we need to use words correctly One good way is to speak words of blessing Over our spouse Speak words of blessing No, it doesn't have to be that the person needs to be there Even our times of prayer When you're praying for our spouse, okay, that's another thing to pray for our spouse Pray for the wife pray for the husband Speak blessing over the husband speak blessing over the wife over the children over the marriage and over the home Right speak those words Very very important, you know one good thing Just want to point out one good resource rather is You know, I don't know how many if you have the all people's church app the phone app so you can actually go to you know something called a section called toolkit in the app and It has what is called? Faith builders. Okay, so basically it is just words or it is just Scriptures sorry scriptures from you know verses from the Word of God on various topics on various topics You know this scripture about angels anointing answer to prayer Some of you, you know would have seen it by me for those of you who have not really downloaded that app Just want to encourage you to try and do that, you know So there's there's one section on children. Okay, so here are some scriptures You know this this verse that we just read just now about children, right? It is there if you try me six Four to seven is that you try me 28 and verse four and a blessed shall be the fruit of your body You try me 30 verse 6 and the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants to love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul That you may live so it's talking about, you know, how the Lord will Circumcise the heart which means, you know, whatever is scarred that person's heart or dead in the person's Life will be taken away and it says your heart your heart and your descendants So that you can pray that declare that I'm saying this will be the experience much Nothing will come between them and the Lord So they they will love the Lord with all their heart So we can actually use this And I'm sure there are many other, you know, bibles which have these kind of sections maybe Whereas there is one section about home and family. I just read a few verses here You know, it says Yeah Genesis 22 verses 16 to 18, right? So it says by myself I have sown says a lot sown says a lot because you have done this thing and you're not with Held your son your only son. So he's talking to Abraham after he offered Isaac So saying blessing I will bless you and multiplying I will multiply you your descendants as the stars of the heaven and As the sand which is on the seashore and your descendants shall possess the gates of their enemies and so on so you can You know, these are the words that the Lord speaks about the descendants of Abraham and we as the Descendants of Abraham by faith, right? We are blessed with the blessings of Abraham so because of the cross and so we can declare this and Meditated meditate and declare this speak this over our family as well, Lord. Thank you that you have said this That you will bless our descendants that you will bless and multiply descendants and they will, you know Possess the gates of the enemies and they'll be influencers And through them all the nations of the earth shall be blessed and so on so so this is a very powerful way of You know declaring God's word God's truth over our spouse our family Every day, you know and we know that the the word of God The Ramah word of God is the is the sword of the spirit It's the weapon an offensive weapon against the schemes of the enemy So we use God's word we declare God's word Over the works of the enemy Efficient six talks about that right the helmet of salvation and everything and then it talks about sort of the spirit Which is the word of God so the word of God is something that we can use and We use words in communication right when we When we communicate with one another so we use the word of God The Ramah word of God the quickened word of God who God is given to us and in in communicating in covering in blessing in In warfare for the sake of the family and so So we'll stop here today and Just wanted to say that You know, whatever we are learning here. Okay, we can Do to use it really, you know to prepare even for those of us who are preparing Well, you go back and you know, you read through the notes and and with the intention of Putting it to use with the intention of following it and for those of us who are already married, you know Maybe you can you and your spouse you can get a copy of this Of the notes you can download a copy of this book and actually go through these exercises for communication and and whatever we have seen you know love languages and Trying to understand You know and and put to practice work it out the agreements, you know, let's let's do this Let's try this. Let's read this together. Let's do it and and Be fruitful in it, you know and and see the power of God's word at work in your marriage Okay, so we'll stop here for today and We'll meet again next week for church and family. Those of you who are there for The biblical preaching I'll see you in that class. Okay. Thank you. God bless