 Hello everyone to go ahead and jump in I did not push. You know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry I it's not it's not right if I do not push the button. I'm sorry. Let me let me let's back up Okay, there we go have to do it the right way right cannot you can't do it the wrong way so Anyway, let's go ahead and by the way, let me just say this let me just say this and You all see why I hate I don't mean hate, but I hate let me say it again Okay, I don't hate but I do hate I absolutely do not like formal debates. I Just don't you know why because you can never get your point You've got these time restrictions and now there was something that I was a little bit bothered by I will say this There's something that was a little bit bothered by one this and it's not it's not on Marlon It's I asked if I could go second The reason being is one I've never done a formal debate Because I've seen the formal debates and I can't recall one where someone was swayed But you want to be able to ask people questions and kind of flesh out what they're saying And so if he makes a statement, I can't respond back to the statement because the rules the constructs of the debate Bothers me it bothers me a lot, but it is it is what it is I think it was I think it's beneficial at least cause us to Go and look and look more The problem that I had was that Dr. Brown didn't know acted like he didn't know that he knew that I asked that He was gonna go first when it said I ain't going first, but that's that's not a problem on Marlon Nor problem on him, but to keep saying hey listen you You're not standing with the rules of debate Well, if I would have given to you five minutes before would you have still been unprepared? You've been doing this for so long. So anyway, yeah, no one is just I agree Brown No one is really swayed by those types. Well, I shouldn't take such into that sometimes they are sometimes They are those that might legitimately be on the fist the things but I think the best way to do so is to Have it in a way to where you can go back and forth with a person and then have that have that moderate would you say? He I think so too Brian he did he did he brought up passages that that of course, I don't care. I Could care less what the rules are. I really someone said Cory Why don't you do moderate? I mean formal debates because I'm not formal I'm not formal and I wanted to I want to cover the passages that are pertinent There's just no way to do it Which is why in my opening would I leave like five or six minutes left on the clock cuz I don't care I'm ready. I want to get into the What I wanted is getting to the back and forth I want to get into the dialogue, but even in that there are different rules that you are governed by and so I Apologize what three times for not sticking to the rules, but excuse me Excuse me I'm sorry got me all choked up But the problem that that there was one thing that that really really did bother me That was one and I'll cover that be BJ That was one thing that bothered me. There was one thing that just bothered me. It just bothered me Why is it my use of the Greek not good, but you your use of the Hebrew is okay that that part That was the part that was starting to get to me every other debate that I've ever seen him do you will you will Lean on your Hebrew, but I can't lean on the Greek. What I'm gonna lean on the Greek I'm sorry and When I when he was naming off those names of those people They don't disagree and that's that's my that's why I asked him to send me a link to that These people do not disagree with my statement on John 1028 in the Greek They don't they disagree with the with the conclusion and that's it And so when they when they went let's let's go we're gonna go to it Oh gonna we're gonna go to it and then something else something else that he did that was That was just wrong that was it was just wrong and I'm gonna pull up I want you all to see but let's go to John 1028 There it is done 1028 first of all We jokingly and lovingly call ourselves sheep basis. Why do we call ourselves over here sheep basis? Y'all know why we spent so much time in John 10 Covering what she art matter of fact, let's just go to the beginning. Let's just let's do this real quick This is real quick John 10 he talks about the sheep. He says let's start in verse 3 He says to him the doorkeeper opens and the sheep here the sheep are here in a coup a that this is present active indicative So the sheep are hearing now doesn't mean that they are always continually hearing no But this what he's describing what sheep do Sheep so let's put it in the job description Just like if we have in the job description of what a pastor is this this this this and this so you'll know You're a sheep because this was sheep do sheep hear his voice Check one right sheep hear his voice and he calls his what does he say his own sheep by name? Cory Bob Mary or in this case Brian Breanna TT. He wouldn't call you TT. He might call you TT Lashonda he'll call you by name Because you're his own he'll call Julia Arianna He'll call you by name and he leads them out who his sheep his own sheep When he puts forth all his own his own India his own sheep He goes ahead of them and what did the sheep do the sheep type about the out to Aquila aqua left a which is they follow so his sheep follow him. So second thing Sheep follow sheep here She follow sheep here sheep follow Why do sheep here? Why do sheep follow hot tea? Odosin which is because they know the voice of his they know his voice So why do we follow him because we know his voice? But then he goes and say a stranger they simply will not follow but will flee Why will they flee so two things a stranger will not follow But matter of fact now we will not follow but we will flee and then he tells us why we will flee because hot tea or Odosin which is because we don't know that stranger's voice So if the devil comes if a demon comes they're fine of devils and demons. So if a devil comes and says says Hey, listen, you need Go sleep with somebody else if hey go follow Islam Go follow Hinduism. Jesus isn't real It is that not a different voice. And so what will the what will the sheep do turn and run away? Because they don't know this voice now. Let's drop down He even speaks of the Gentile sheep and he says in verse 16 I am the good shepherd and I I know my own and my own know me So we know him and he knows them Even as the father knows me I know and I know the father and I lay down my life for these sheep He says I have other sheep which are not of this full speaking of us Gentiles and look what he says Look what he says. I must bring them also. I must bring them also. And what does he say? They? Will hear this is futurity. So they will Hear my voice and they will become one flock now. Let's drop down to the passage verse 20 Let's start in verse 20. Let's start in 26, you know starting 27 my sheep hear my voice Well, he's already said that we know that for a fact my sheep hear my voice So a sheep is is what do we do a sheep is is we hear his voice? And he says I know them who do I know? He knows us sheep is a sheep and what do we do again? We follow so sheep here follow and he knows us and Continually continuing Kygo, which means this word Kygo which is and I so this is continuing just because we see the verse 28 There doesn't mean the thought is interrupted. So verse 28. I'm sorry. Let me go ahead and do that verse 28 It's kind of gotten to a habit hadn't it to slow to put on a slow mode so my sheep This continual thought and I give them his sheep Kygo Ditto means and I give to them What I give them life? What I give them life Where into the ages? Thank you, John k66 by the way I had a guy another guy who who was from Greece who spoke Greek and Who disagreed with me on internal security, which is fine And so I asked him could you exegete John 10 28 and tell me if you think that I'm wrong He said no, you're not wrong, but still God says we can well what about this passage? So anyway, thank you so much for the compliment. I appreciate that He says and I give them eternal life, so I give them life into the ages I give them life into the ages And here it is We don't agree that clause a will contradict clause B or B will contradict clause C or C will contradict clause A And so if you could perish then if clause B if you could walk away Then wouldn't that contradict clause a and wouldn't that contradict clause B? Because clause B says that I give them eternal life And they will cause be never perish and this was that rule who may up alone type guys This is why I asked dr. Brown before this to me or anyone else Find me the greek grammarian not the scholar who disagrees but the greek grammarian Who's gonna take this and parse this and tell us that greek that this who may up alone type does not mean what I'm saying It literally means if is there a way well first of all in English, there's a way to say it's impossible for it to happen Do you all think there's a way to say it's impossible for it to happen in greek? Well, yeah, and here it is This is how you would say how you would say something is impossible is to give a double negation of a subjunctive Some might say that another way just as strong or even stronger would be a double negation of a future active indicative Future meaning that it can't it's impossible for it to occur in the future fine But I would I tend to agree that this is the most emphatic way I Think this is the most emphatic way and so He can't get around that I Was hopeful because you know he said that he that he has a doctorate in near eastern languages, okay fine And Hebrew is a specialty but again We've got these new testments passes in the greek So I would have thought that he would have known more and it's just and this is what he did the last time We had this issue on tongues when he says this word didn't what was the word that he said they didn't mean that and we looked It up like this word app I'm thinking myself wait a second because we didn't have enough time We only had about an hour an hour 15 minutes. I could not flesh that out at that moment in the debate over tongues So go back and look at it wait a second it absolutely does was I was I was mistaken was I wrong? No, I was correct But I couldn't flesh that out So here we have Him not dealing with this text, but then something else that he said now I'll start taking you guys's question or your comments He makes a statement. He makes a statement in Romans not Romans There it is in Revelation 3 5 y'all follow me Revelation 3 5 he says he who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments and I will not erase his name from the book of life How he took that how he read that was to say that if you overcome But he stated that you see this passage shows that you could have your name blotted out So I'm asking show me where in verse 5 does it say that your names that or that you could be blotted out give me an example How do you read verse 5 to tell me that you could? Beep or you could have your name blotted out Help me understand this by the way This is where the Greek comes in look over the right. How do you come the one who's overcoming? This is the present active participle. So the one that's overcoming or the overcoming one that one He says he will be clothed in white. He will be clothed So do we say that he won't be clothed in white? He might not be know this overcoming one definitely will be clothed in white because this is Jesus making this promise and He says I will not here it is this word for to be blotted out is Alepho, which is but he gives this this is a subjunctive and so he says well X Alepho or like I leave so which is I may blot you out Matter of fact, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Incorrect in the future Even more so this is a future Tense so this is a future active indicative, but he says who may So I will never ever ever. That's what the ooh in the May. No, not never Ever blot your name out in the future So this literally says guys, I will never blot your name out in the future, but his response is Yes, you can it's possible I Don't I don't I don't I don't see that Now some of you guys are saying whether he was respectful or not. I Don't have a problem with with his his tone and so forth. There's a tendency because he's 20 years my senior He's 20 years older than me 2021 years older than me that I'm gonna naturally show a little bit of deference to him But not that much because you are miss your when you go to this passage and then ignore the other passage if you go to John John if you go to Hebrews 10 26 27 28 29 and Disagree or ignore the beginning of Hebrews 10 or Hebrews 9 or Hebrews 8 or Hebrews 7 or Hebrews 6 Well, then what's the point of having you all you just need is Hebrews 10 26 or 29 So I didn't have a problem with that But anyway, if you guys have a question or comment go ahead matter of fact Even if it's a comment put a cue in front of it's that way I can I can see if you disagree The the only part that that I would say that that he was a bit snarky on it. I did not like his one. He kept saying that Well, Cory, I think I think you're in danger. I never said that Listen, I said I believe that I'm saying yes question. Do I believe? Yes, I believe I'm saying But do I believe that these passages these warning passages don't apply to me sure make sure Make sure and if you aren't sure well then get sure how can you? Let me ask you guys a question. What's I didn't know that light was on you. I'm sorry use that light is off What since we'd make to say make sure examine yourself, but then tell us how to examine ourselves Well, he does he gives us the way to examine ourselves Neland said answer Mike. I don't know why I don't see your question, but I see you saying answer my question Please let me go ahead mark some of these questions Let me type in needling I have to get needling I Tell you what needling I'm gonna go over that Hebrews 10 passage. Which one was that? Okay? Hey, Mark. I'm going over that passage. This is not another one of the reasons why I really do not like the the The formats like that Because you ask a question Well, that passage is not just sitting there by itself So to try to flesh that out and here I am I'm trying to flesh that out with a limited amount of time And you just can't You just can't because it's in it's in a context I Have the reason why I believe that a lot of people do not believe in one safe to always say I think to me personally I think it has to be a level of arrogance thinking that you are the one that's doing it You don't have the ability. I think it is Because he's he was accusing me of being arrogant or too prideful or caught up in my own abilities No, or my own standing No, I Know what I'm worth. I know my capabilities and my what I'm incapable of I'm incapable of keeping myself just like everyone else and so He is the one that must do it So All right, let me start covering something as a matter of fact Let me go let me go ahead of faith faith faith in Christ alone says cover Hebrews 6 4 I'll do that and then go to the Hebrews 10 passage as well Where is Hebrews 10 do I have it up here? By the way, there is I did pull a passage up in Hebrew I did pull a passage Let me just go to that Hebrews passage as well this one and then I'll go to Hebrews 6 4 He says make sure that your character is free from the love of money being content with what you have Now all that being said he says for he himself has said I will never ever Dessert you nor will I ever forsake you he uses this double negation twice back to back He literally uses back back to back twice. He says There where is it I just oh there it is I'm sorry He says who may say I know which I will never ever leave you or desert you nor who may say Egg cat a lipo which is I will forsake you so in in he's it twice a double negation It's impossible. It is impossible. But anyway, let's go to Hebrews 6 and I'll go to Hebrews 10 and This was the point that that the writer was making and I could not flesh out the fact that the writer of Hebrews is Making a point to these Jews who are believers now Where where does this can you ever state that when you're when you're talking to a group of Believers, can you ever make the assumption that all of the people that you're talking to are actually saved? You can't you can't and we know so because even in these letters to these believers He's he's telling them to or Paul is or the writer Hebrews others check yourself make sure make sure So a letter to the church in Galatia a letter to the church at Philippi a letter to the church at Corinth both of them There are those that are actually living this out and then there are those that are not and so to make sure examine yourself Okay, so even speaking generically to the brethren There are those amongst you which is a whole point of James 5 as well as James 5 13 There are those amongst you and if those amongst you who are sick not you Or those amongst you who are who've heard this and walked away He could have seen said it there if any of you, but he says if any among you which is exactly what you would do in church so I Think the writer of Hebrews is saying that in this passage. I think he's speaking hypothetically Because notice what he says He says for in the case of those who have Once been enlightened that's a believer and have tasted the heavenly gift That's a believer and have been made Partakers you have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come You've experienced this and then having falling away It's impossible to renew them again It's impact that part they always seem to negate or forget about it is impossible So the question is if you can lose it, how do you get it back? Since they since they again crucified themselves the son of God and put to him an open shame You can't he the whole point of him bringing that part up is that the reason why you are saved is because a debt has been paid He didn't address this either when I stated and this was in his his wheelhouse under the old covenant There's a sacrifice offered by a high priest now. This is Jesus There is a scapegoat which all the sins are confessed on the people now. It's Jesus once that happens those sins are no longer to be remembered and Then there is this sacrifice this sacrifice covers or satisfies the debt That's paid this blood that was shed this blood that was given was given to sanctify you So if you have been sanctified Again, if you have been sanctified and then you turn around and you are trampling under foot The blood of coming you are willfully sinning You have been sanctified maybe so you think and You try and you and you are willfully sent sending matter of fact. Let's go to John 10. I mean John 10 Hebrews 10 Matter of fact, let's read the whole thing Let's read the whole thing as a matter of fact. Let's start in verse in chapter 9. Let's start in verse 20 Let's start in 23 Therefore it was necessary for the copies of the things in heaven to be cleansed with these but the heavenly things themselves with better Sacrifice than these speaking of what Christ has done for Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands Amir copy of the true one but into heaven itself So what is Christ doing and why is he saying that so Christ? Isn't going into the to this tent that man has made no he instead is entering into heaven And how does he enter? He's not entering in with someone else's blood. Notice what he says he's entering the heaven itself and Now to appear in the presence of God for us. So he's appearing in the presence of God for us You see why you can't make this you can't make this case in a in a debated format or the type of format like that He says no or look what he says Nor was it that he would offer himself often? Why is he bringing the point that he has to offer himself? Often because under the old covenant under that atonement you have to offer this offering You have to give this offering often in this case one offering is necessary One offering was advice and look what he says as the high priest enters the holy place year by year every year But look what he does with blood that's not his own So the high priest enters in with someone else's blood in other words the blood of this animal Jesus does not enter in with the blood of someone else's animal. He enters in with his own blood Otherwise, he would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world But now once at the consummation of the ages. He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of itself So what does he do? Jesus literally again, that's why a matter of fact, I'm probably never gonna do it another I'll do a debate but not these I will answer your question to federalism in 1689 because you're my man So look what he says Otherwise, he would need to suffer often once since the foundation of the world But now once at the consummation of the ages. He has been manifested to do what to put away sin To put away sin Now this is a singular sin. So he's speaking all inclusively of sin One time Jesus puts away sin, which is why we know that which sins are covered past, present, and future been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself and in as much as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes a Judgment so also Christ has been offered once to bear the sins of many Will appear a second time for salvation not with reference to sin to those who equally await him Here we go for the law since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things Can never by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year make perfect those who draw near so notice what he's saying The old offering can't make you perfect. They're offered year after year after year. They cannot make you perfect Implication is his does otherwise would they not have ceased to be offered because the worshippers Having once been cleansed would no longer have had a conscience of sin So if this offering could make you perfect then we would only have required one offering Jesus gives the one offering because it does make you perfect not in the way you act But in terms of how you were presented for God, he views you in a right standing now. Let's keep going Verse 3 but in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sin year by year not for us So again, why when he asked Corey, are you saved? Are you cut? Yes? I am. Do I have this confidence? Yes, I'm not reminded of my sin. That is my sin bother me Sure, but I don't walk around with this guilt of my sin because I also remember what he's done verse 4 For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins Therefore here it is when he comes into the world He says sacrifices and offering you did not desire but a body you have prepared this goes back to Leviticus 1711 When he's speaking about offering this blood On the altar to make atonement for sins again This blood brings about atonement for how long under the old one year for here forever In whole burnt offerings and sacrifice for sin you have taken no pleasure Then I said behold I have come in the scroll of book is written of me to do your will oh God What is his will Jesus already explained what his will is? This is the will of my father that he has given me all of these and I will not lose any how because I will atone for them There's one time and it is sufficient He says after saying above sacrifice and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifice for sin You have no desire not desired nor have you taken pleasure in them which are offered according to the law Then he said behold I have come to do your will look what he says He takes away the first in order to establish the second by this we will have we will look what he says though By this and this we could not get to but here's kind of going to that point kneeling by this Will we have been? sanctified What was his question? Have we been sanctified by this we will have been? Sanctified past tense through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all How long so now going back to the question. What was his question? Have we been sanctified once for yes according to the passage? We don't get to verse 26 27 28 and 29 without going through verses 1 through 9 8 9 10 11 Are you with me? So we didn't get a chance to go that one because of the constraints of time But he says we have been sanctified How long once and for all am I reading this or am I making this up? I'm literally reading this we we've been sanctified once for all Every priest he says stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices which can never take away sin But he having offered one sacrifice for the sin for all time Set down how many sacrifices one for all time Waiting for that time on one until his enemies be made his footstool for a speak for by one offering Look what he says he has perfected For all time those who are sanctified So we have been sanctified for all times and so and we have been perfected for all time Are you with me and the Holy Spirit also? Testifies to us after saying this is a covenant that I will make with them after those days It's a little about my laws upon their heart and on their mind He never by the way if you notice never address this issue about the Holy Spirit being in our heart He never touched that I will put my laws upon their heart and on their mind I will write them then he says and their sins and their laws their lawless needs I will remember no more am I making this up or my reading this I will remember these sins no more Then he says now where there is forgiveness of these things Guess what? There is no longer any offering of sin So because I've been forgiven there is no longer an offering a Sacrifice for these sins that are required because it that's been paid Therefore brother since we have confidence to enter he had him. He was bothered by my confidence But since we have this confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus By a new and living way which he inaugurated for us through the veil that is his flesh And since we have a great high priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a sincere heart in Full assurance of faith which I should have you should have having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscious This goes back to Ezekiel 30. I mean 36 as well as John 3 I'll cover that part Adam 4 18 Having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water Let us hold fast the confession of our hope Hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering for he who promises faithful hold fast. What confession everything he just said Hold fast that confession and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together. Let's drop down to verse 26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving this knowledge or the knowledge of truth There are no longer remains a sacrifice of sin You can take what I just said and then do nothing with it If you if you nullify this if you sin rejecting this after learning this there's no sacrifice What other sacrifice is there for you other than this? But a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witness How much how much severe? Punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled underfoot the Son of God and has regarded as unclean The blood of the Covenant by which he was sanctified and has insulted the spirit of grace So now he is speaking so do you take this that the person who's done so is the same person that was sanctified? Could not be unless we have a contradiction So he's got to be speaking wholly of the entirety of those who've been sanctified or what the blood does It could not mean someone Individually if that same person is the same person who he just said was sanctified and perfect forever Are you with me? That's why you can't go to that passage and stay on that passage because how long did it take me to make this point? Are you with me? How long did it just take me to make this point? Took me a lot longer than I would have had on that debate, which is fine But you can't make that point in such a short amount of time Especially if I've got it because I know I'm not gonna convince him But there might be someone else that is looking at it I mean that there might be someone else that is kind of trying to figure this out And so you have to deal with the whole of it. That's why I said why would you read chapter 10 verses? 26 27 28 29 and not read the previous chapter or Or or the first part of chapter 10 or chapter 9 or chapter 8 or or how about this or chapter 11? It's not like these four verses are there by them by themselves So look what he says for we know him who said business mind I will pay and again the Lord will judge his people is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of a living God But remember the former days when after being enlightened you endure so look what he says After being enlightened you endure with great conflict of suffering now. He's speaking not them specifically But Israel or the Jews as a whole Endured a great conflict of suffering partly by being made a public spectacle through reproaches and tribulations and partly by becoming Shares with those who were so treated for you showed sympathy to the prisoners. Let me drop down Therefore look what he says in verse 35 Therefore do not throw away your confidence very confidence that he said I shouldn't the very confidence that dr. Brown said I should not have Paul the Paul the writer says don't throw away your confidence Which has a great reward for you have need of endurance so that when you have done the will of God You may receive what was promised. So now look what he says in verse 39 Of all of these people that he's warning look what he says in verse 39 He says but we are not those who shrink back to destruction But of those who have faith to the person to the persevering. I'm sorry the preserving of the soul So now I knew I knew you go say that and I knew you were gonna say something about some hair Thank you in that I appreciate that I think But now do you all kind of get a better understanding of what John 10 26 27 28 29 mean They're not just there by themselves. They are contained in something. So that's the whole point All right, let's go to some more scriptures No Rune master is a rune master rune master rune master. Do I think that this gives us? Certainty of an age of accountability. No, it does not know second Samuel 12. No, it doesn't One we're speaking of a I know folks hate this word of a different dispensation But the Bible didn't say so there are Kids who obviously they come to maturity fast and others that you can be a six-year-old and place your faith in Christ You can be a 17 year old. You can be a 12 year old Which is why the Bible speaks of how important it is for us to pass this along to our children do not stop And from coming. Amen Thank you, John case 66 how does one believe God and not have it accounted to the yeah, I listen Your faith is accounted to you to you as righteousness and so your faith again Put you in the standing of there's a reason why we keep using these terms these words righteous or in right standing and Accountant to use righteous because if you are in right standing according to Romans 8 then nothing's ever gonna take you out of that right standing nothing ever shall separate you that includes you Don't come back and say well you can separate yourself. Give me the passage. This is why I said no He said that it's an argument of silence. No, it's an important argument No one in the Bible after having salvation lost it. You can't give that example At least we should be able to point to something every other major doctrine We can point to an example you can't point to that but then again I understand these are the same folks at point two tongues today Though we don't have an example of in the Bible or being slain the spirit though We don't have an example of that. It's okay to believe well now, you know, we can believe whatever we want to believe We can believe whatever we want to believe Because not the Bible doesn't specifically say you can't be slain the spirit the Bible doesn't say that you lose your salvation either There are these warning passages You're trying to tell us this person that does these things when the Bible clearly tells us what a sheep is You're telling us these people who do these things. Yeah, they're sheep. They just lost. They just stopped being a sheep. No Here's the here's the Let me read this because Jesus bore our sins one time and we believe once then could the lukewarm led to see in church Be the church that doesn't believe once they've also well I would say this because people say see if you lukewarm you can be saved get lukewarm and they get spewed out What about the cold people surely you can't be cold in Christ And receive a better fate than those who are lukewarm But he didn't say he'll spew the luke the cold people out now There are some debate as to what he what he's talking about because here this church is this this water That's running down this water comes lukewarm. It's neither hot nor cold. You haven't decided one way or the other And so now this could be the false convert could be there's there there are different ways to interpret that But I do not believe that this is speaking of a person losing their salvation a lukewarm Christian I don't believe that now again. I take the stance that a person can believe But it not be true belief it can be the same belief that you and I have and Even fill it and have committed themselves that I'm gonna live this way But because they don't have the Holy Spirit in them their heart hadn't been changed as Jesus says the This word going on to their heart, which is the ground There's this heart is only changed and only done so made new by God not by us We don't make our heart new again. God does that. I didn't get a chance to go to the pastors where Peter even says that those of us Who were born again we were caused to be born again Those of us who are born again are Overcomers according to 1st John these overcomers in revelation We'll never ever ever have their name taken out of the book of life These overcomers are overcomers because they believe how do they become overcomers according to Peter 1 Peter 3? I'm sorry first Peter chapter 1 verse 3. They were caused to be believers So these are working together. So we've got a lot of taking his stance There's a lot of contradiction in Scripture and the one point that I wanted to hear him answer was What was the point of Jesus coming in the first place if you can come and do all these things and then lose Your salvation. That was the exact same system that we had before Christ. So we'll be the point the point Cory I'm trying to Learn if one saved always say why does Matthew 615 say that if we don't forgive others neither will I I Thought you wait a second. Oh, I'm sorry. That's that's something. That's also If we don't forgive others I'll answer both of those why does Matthew say if we don't forgive others Neither will God forgive us and Then you ask another question. This is what I was looking at it first What about if you if you have a time? Can you read Ezekiel 18 24 and 26? Well, remember a couple of things 18 of Ezekiel Ezekiel is speaking to these Jews If you're in right if you're righteous and then you do sin Will you will your righteousness still be righteousness after you've done all these things if you do not righteousness? Well in Ezekiel's days, excuse me, how do they become righteous? They became righteous by the day of Atonement and We've just read that this righteousness this right standing only lasts for one year Now we don't even know if the person actually was right they might think they were But let's say they were but then you after that time of having yours in atone for under the old covenant Then you go off and live how you want to live and do what you want to do and then Take up foreign gods and so forth. Well, then you know along in right standing That's the old way What was God's remedy? Going forward if we read Ezekiel 36 when he tells us what he's going to do they have a bad heart So what is God's remedy? He's going to fix that bad heart by Washing their heart by sprinkling clean water, which is what we saw in Hebrews Washing their heart giving them a new heart remember the the active participant in Ezekiel 36 is God the passive participant is the person whose heart is being renewed and So the answer to Ezekiel 18 is Ezekiel 36 where he's going to fix the heart and then cause them to walk in his stand In his standards or in his truth in his teachings, and they will not become again unrighteous In Matthew 6 when a person doesn't forgive. What does that say about that person's heart? So when we see a person who's not forgiving when we see a person who is unloving when we see a person who is hateful We see a person who is just constantly lustful What does that say about that person that person might not be a believer? That's why the writer of Hebrews says make sure you don't have this wicked not unbelieving heart Not that you used to believe He says make sure that you don't have this wicked unbelieving heart. Hey, man Alright, what did you ask? Wait a second, I don't see okay. You said can you please answer my question? I type in your name, and I don't see your question, isn't it? Oh Wait a second. I'm sorry. I'm in the wrong the wrong spot. Oh, I did Why didn't why didn't you bring up Jeremiah 32? I did I brought matter of fact he complained that I brought it up But I brought up I said God has stated his prophecies due to run me I said Jeremiah 32 39 and 40 and 40 where he tells us that he's gonna put his spirit in us And that we will never turn away and then he will never turn away turn away He didn't approach he didn't touch that he did not he did not touch that because We've got to take God for his word if he says that I will do this and when I do this such as putting my spirit in you and then Because of that you will never walk away or turn away and then God also affirms that he will never turn away Well, then how can a person turn away? How could a person lose their salvation? So No, he didn't go to bed. He's there. He's there. I'm pretty sure he's there He didn't have it. He didn't have a bad time Let me answer a few more questions because I haven't eaten. I haven't eaten and and my wife made pork chops Steve says if we follow and live by the spirit Do we not have the free work? You probably will do we not have the free will to decide to go back into the world Where will we end up at the final judgment now this issue of our will? remember What controls our will guys our heart now? I don't mean necessarily the organ that this beating and pumping blood, but Inwardly so he's going to change that so if he gives us a new heart a new disposition What will what will our will our volition want to do? We'll want to follow him Play with me. So he's made us brand new He's given us a spirit as a deposit and we are going to that's why Jesus can make the statement that if you have faith today Then today I said in John 647 the person that believes he has present tense Life now and how long does his life last according to Jesus in John 647 forever? Exegy first John 39 let's go the first John 39 take a few more questions and we'll leave No one who was born of God practices in because his seed abides in him Well, you just actually answered the other guy's question a person who was born of God Oh boy a which mean he is not doing How my tear which is sin not he is doing Meaning he is which is why they translate this practice sin. He is not make this happen. He does not make sin He's not in this ongoing sin Because a seed of God abides in him It remains in him the same word in in John 15 and he cannot sin because he is born of God meaning he cannot Caiu I do not tie and this word is this is a present active. This is an infinitive So that he is not in this habit or this state of sinning. It's not what he does He's not a it's not what I do, you know people say Martin says I I Throw people at us what I do. Well, we don't sin. It's not what we do. This is an infinitive Okay, don't mean to bring up English It is rules of English grammar, but I think it's hard for people to grasp. Let me take that over here And do it this way Okay, I think it's hard for people to grasp one saved always saved because they see the depravity of man And can't see God's grace and mercy because another because another of us Can't forgive like God. Yeah Yeah, thank you. I love you the issue is The issue is Sometimes we look at other people and we can't help but compare their walk to our walk We can't help to compare their walk to our walk at that person. He can't be saved Okay, well first of all, you don't know You know why oh, I spoke it wrong. You know why you guys are the best chat and the smartest chat Because of this right here you guys this what you guys do I can't see all the all of them So what you guys you guys you guys do this? Could you review my questions? So I don't know what it is about it I see those kind of comments, but I missed your actual questions So me answer your question if I have wicked thoughts from time to time, but I don't act on them Is it temptation or am I saved at all? You're gonna have listen. Let me just say this Let's let's just tell the truth saving devil. You're gonna have some wicked thoughts You're gonna have some thoughts. You're gonna have some I want to choke you. I want to punch you. I saw a guy Did anyone see the video of The man punching the woman and her son comes in and shoots and kills them Or seems parts of it I had some thoughts I had some thoughts about that fella I had some thoughts Lord forgive me I wanted just I wanted I wanted to punch him. I wanted to shoot him. That's now Forgive me lord You're gonna have some thoughts some thoughts might be and now maybe my thoughts were righteous indignation. Maybe Or maybe it was just me and myself just wanting to hurt this guy who was hurting this woman But you all are gonna have some thoughts You are all going to be tempted the deal is though There's a way for you to come out of and not succumb to that temptation Are with me It's going to happen You're going to have these but what you can do is you can want arrest and take cap of some of these thoughts But also you are disciplining yourself We're told to discipline ourselves. We haven't made it there yet in terms of what we're supposed to be like ultimately But we are working these things out because we're safe. We're gonna work this way We're gonna live this way and there are going to be times. They're going to be times where Um, you're gonna have to go back. So, you know what lord forgive me for how I was for how I acted remember If we can't be forgiven for the our bad thoughts and we also can't be forgiven for our bad deeds Could you imagine? Thank you. Uh, jimma joe. I appreciate that now is jimma joe keeping it real You made you made it longer But could you imagine what what about a person? Who says they're christian And then comes out and says, I don't know who jesus is a matter of fact They come in amongst a bunch of let's say a bunch of uh, uh, muslims They got guns to their head If if if y'all catch me i'm around a bunch of muslims And they got knives and stuff and I don't know they're gonna do anything to me But i'm thinking so and I say yeah, I don't know who jesus is. No, i'm not a christian Nope don't know jesus who who is jim never never met him don't know the guy bible. What's a bible? What would you think of me? Seriously, what would you think of me if I made that statement someone caught me on camera saw that I have just yeah I'm sorry y'all lord and I come back lord forgive me. I was I was afraid I was scared But you saw the video would you say that I was not a christian? What what would be the inclination to believe that I'm not a christian, right? He ain't safe. He's just faking He's just faking right what wouldn't you say that? Yeah, julia That's exactly what peter did That's exactly what peter did Exactly what peter matter of fact three times And now some of y'all your version may say that he that he uh cursed he didn't curse like using the curse word he cursed Saying I swear to god. I don't know god So That happens now i've never had a moment like that Never had a moment like that Peter did Did peter did peter lose the salvation? No No, peter didn't lose salvation Neither if you are truly saved Notice I use the word if you are if you are truly saved If Then you don't lose up that is if if you are saved you'll walk this way if indeed you are saved That's why I have to say if there are 235 folks in the chats right now at 10 o'clock at night. Wow. Let me get off this thing It's a lot of you guys here at night Do I believe Let me ask you guys a question you tell me do you do you all believe that all 200 something people in the chats right now? If there's late night and those are going to watch later You believe that all these professed christians are actual christians I know these are probably here on this channel Probably on the smart christians channel probably if there's 235 of you guys Maybe 234 of you are safe. Maybe one of you ain't Right you believe everybody is safe Do you believe everybody in your church is saved? No No No, so how do you treat them? Like maybe they are That's why that's why you use the word if if indeed Make sure I missed. I'm sorry charles. I missed the wrong one Well, I don't think it's concocted. We're we're simply going off of the scriptures my friend And we do preach repentant. We preach to live holy live godly Live godly because that's how you know That's how you know So it's not like people are saying hey One saved always saving live how you want to live. No, we don't no we don't say that Who says that if you live how you want to live then guess what you're not you're not saved Again, if you don't fit the definition of a sheep then guess what she ain't you ain't a sheep But if you are a sheep, you will fit the definition. You see how that works I know for now for some people. I'm not saying you I'm not I don't mean that I'm not being insulted I'm not saying you but there are some people that don't make the connection He's describing what a sheep is. He's not saying you have to do this to become a sheep You're with me So We are going to cover this again on Monday we're going to go more in depth in this on on Monday. I'm going to flesh out some more of these points Um, and I promise to never ever ever do a formal debate again because if you I did I'm sorry. I I wanted to interrupt. I want to wait a second make your point. Hold on. I'm not But I couldn't I couldn't uh poor poor marlin trying to try to uh keep me in line after going apologize to them um, but God describes what a sheep is The bible describes what a christian is The bible tells us The reason why he describes that to make sure that you can examine yourself to see if you're like that Christians will inherit eternal life if indeed you are So I'm gonna I'm gonna take a shower too. You know, I'm I'm gonna take a shower too all right, so, um All right, last question There's always somebody there's all there's always somebody wants to so I've been here this whole time ask your question I'll let you ask your question Ask your question instead of making an insult and then we'll they will we'll leave Let me drink some of my coffee If you felt I got handled then I'm pretty sure you felt I got handled before you've watched it That's just how it goes Those who take a position Have already in most cases decided who's gonna win before The combatants start right so My question where's the guy yet? I lost it remnant 88 Did you have a question or we're just making a statement? Uh, but again guys, we are going to cover this, uh, even more so Even more so, um on monday There is going to be a special announcement. I've been holding back but there's going to be a special announcement So all that being stated. Let me make sure Okay, that but that guy didn't make a statement again So I will go ahead and assume that he didn't have a statement to make he just wanted Or he didn't have a question or have a point. He just wanted, you know, which happens which happens Trolls come at all times of the day So no problem. No problem. Anyway guys Oh This is a good question. Let me answer this question before I leave before I leave They In Ezekiel's time, they were righteous because of the day atonement Abraham was righteous because of his faith. Well, even in the day of atonement Under the old you weren't just righteous just because the atonement occurred. You were righteous because of what? You were flitted your souls and you placed faith in what was happening So it's still it's still faith that you have to have so it's not that Uh, just by simply being there that you are uh in right standing and because it happens No, you have to please you have to have faith as well. So anyway guys, I love you all. I will see you all Later. Bye. Bye