 what happened why should switch from the nation to the police he was manipulated but when you see well I only know him from you know the stories are from the TV shows and so forth and when you see him he doesn't seem like the type of person who is you know easily manipulated you don't think so yeah I'm just saying I don't really know him I mean just looking at it just look here's a man with a hundred and forty six million dollars end of going to prison now you got 25 years you think he ain't easily manipulated I get it you know I'm saying so sugar's a wreck a man Melvin was talking about it today sugar's the only one that need even a gangster ain't right it on nobody everybody rats on him they talk shit about you but how many interviews you ever heard of sugar accusing anybody of anything he didn't keep it he wouldn't even be in prison if he had a followed my instruction that day that that incident happened but he wanted to keep it 100 and that 100 got him 25 years wow I got him in the interview with Melvin me and Melvin did with what's the girls solidato Brian and ice cube did a thing on on on sure and so I was able to get an interview with sugar to to a telephone interview you know so you know I don't help dude I way more need to help me out you know but the hype you know I'm saying he keeps feeding into the hype you know I'm saying so yeah when you talk about some people and the way he had good intentions but good intentions is full in the graveyard if you don't make them right that's right so sometime you try to save people that don't want to save themselves correct so when he got into the industry the industry wanted Don Carneas to mentor him to select his friend but he wanted to deal with the mob he wanted to deal with the homies he took crack heads and and made them somebody else and when the money ran out to crack heads ran out on him wow white american on sendin about sure they make black people's talk about sure as they do with everybody else you know good stuff man I just I think about the times when he had death row and all that man that was the time when the whole hip hop scene was actually being really maneuvered by by by him and Jimmy I've been them to be honest with you and that was a time when they had everything pretty much they had everything what they wanted it they had the money they had the power they had the success that the American dream so-called so when you think about that I just to see it all dwindle away like it did was pretty it was drastic for for for the culture that's right I say a money in fools soon part yeah you know so we had all the opportunity we suggested that dude get a factory over on Walnut right next to the 91 freeway have death row Compton mm-hmm but you have out of this whole thing you have no edifice of death row in Compton ain't that sad wow you know you spent all that money in Beverly Hills you spent all that money somewhere else and they didn't throw everything down that you ever you just rented it wow fifty sixty thousand dollars a month for some people that don't even like you when you could have built your own mansion in your city mm-hmm wow but white America don't allow you to do anything like that you can't invest with the March of Dimes or or or Jerry's kids but you can invest with black folks okay you know I'm saying so it's it's been a manipulation and we didn't went to sleep on it now things and got so bad yeah just like the gang culture Peru is a culture it's a street in Compton that just wasn't allowing dudes to just come in just because we live in houses with what what families you can't take our coach you can't take our shoes we can fight to mm-hmm you understand so it was a defense mechanism and the defense mechanism went so bad we turned into the savages that we were fighting against wow so now you can't tell the difference