 سوامالي is are as tough for people as you'll probably meet anywhere they have had a rather extraordinary capacity to endure what they have been through, they also have a very entrepreneurial spirit that I think has really also helped them get through this period of prolonged sustained crisis it was really devastating because we never experienced a war before there were sometimes clashes in the nomadic area but in the cities there was no war before so it was really a catastrophe and children were dying there was no water, enough water there was no food at all there was no even you know cooking utensils because the person who loot they take even everything so people they were they don't know if they can alive in a day for the ACRC it was and remains and that's not a proud point of reference actually our largest humanitarian operation since the second world war we thought that everybody needed as much help as we could provide and we assisted about a million people at the time we had a fleet of 20 ships we must have had about 20 planes 25 planes we probably had a couple of hundred trucks so we kind of organized multiple simultaneous entry points so that food was pretty much arriving throughout the country all over the country at the same time we brought all this food and then we cooked it which was another way of preventing it being looted was cooking the food and it's more difficult to loot cooked food than it is to loot a truck full of food people would come every day for a year to take three meals of rice, beans and oil that was the value it had it was enormously important it affects many people majority of the people but it may affect this woman and in every war this woman who is a victim who is the most vulnerable because she cannot defend herself I think with time Somali started coping with the conflict situation has improved the number of humanitarian organizations multiplied and they definitely take a quick chunk of the pressure you can imagine being a Somali your own people sometimes you don't even understand it's very difficult to rationally look at why at the end of the day you are fighting yes they fight for political issues but at the end of the day it doesn't make a lot of sense but the response of the Somali people to their problems is something that has been very humbling to be a part of and to watch and they got on with it and they looked after their children and they did everything they could the great credit is owed to the Somalis there seems to be quite some optimism amongst many Somalis in the south and the centre following better rains which are helping the rural economy in particular helping them to move out of this period of recent food crisis and then as well as the result of recent elections which have seen a government installed in Somalia for the first time really since 22 years that's clearly creating some optimism nevertheless for the ICRC we see that there continue to be massive challenges ahead the conflict isn't over so like many other Somalis yes I am quite optimistic and I hope that it's not just optimism alone but optimism with something to follow