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I know, well you know what? No, you know what's interesting is, well there's a couple of different things. When we could talk about, I do believe there are some benefits to fasting but it's not what is often sold. But let's stick to the physiological benefits that constantly get sold, right? The cell autophagy, it's great for insulin sensitivity, reduces inflammation. When you compare fasting to just regular old calorie restriction, it's identical. There's no additional benefits to the fasting. So the benefits that people are seeing with fasting is just because they're eating less calories. Well, wasn't this the research that, was it Volter Longo did? Isn't that what his whole thing was about? Was if I put him on this, you know, 500 calorie diet for a week, would all those same markers improve? The fasting mimicking diet, right? Yeah, that's exactly what he did. Now remember, Dr. Volter Longo's fasting mimicking diet was based off of what they saw for cancer, right? So fasting before chemotherapy reduced some of the negative consequences or side effects of chemotherapy and increased the ability of the chemotherapy to kill cancer cells. So he's like, okay, can we find a way to get these benefits without completely starving people? Because, especially if you're in that situation, right? You're about to go into chemo, you've probably already lost weight because you have cancer, kind of a tough position to be in. And what they found was indeed that you saw a lot of those effects. But when you're talking about the average person, you know, the cell fasting is this great way to do all these incredible physiological benefits, but it's the same stuff you get with calorie restriction. Now, does that mean there's no benefits to fasting? No, I think there are, but I think that they are all, I guess, psychological or mental or dare I say, spiritual for the right people. Because I think for the wrong people, it's also bad, right? You take somebody who has eating dysfunction, which in the past might be, you know, for them might have been borderline anorexia or bulimia, fasting is a terrible approach. But if you take someone who's like super afraid to miss a meal, oh no, I need to build muscle, I have to eat every two hours, you know, this was me, right, when I was younger. Fasting had a lot of psychological benefits because it got me to kind of break those chains. But aside from that, yeah, there's really no additional benefits from fasting that you wouldn't get just from caloric restriction. Yeah, yeah, I mean, we've talked about this quite a few times at this point, but really, yeah, for me, it was, you know, personally, it was about being able to not be completely on this clock, on the schedule. Like I'm not gonna get, you know, I'm gonna lose muscle gain and all this stuff because I'm not like consuming protein at the right timing and I'm not like completely fueling my body all the time. And so you just realize too, just, you know, your patterns, the human behavior of like, throughout the day, like constantly, I'm just thinking about when's my next meal and to be able to kind of step outside of that, you get a little bit more insight in terms of your own, you know, behaviors. Totally. Now is there a type of client that you guys, I mean, I think I've brought this up before that I would use it for competitors. To interrupt that, you know, and I was like you were, I used to have this fear of, oh my God, if I didn't hit my protein intake for the day. And watching the clock too. Yeah, oh my God, if I didn't hit my calories, that, you know, and why it was, you know, it was reinforced because I'd get on the scale and the scale would show that I was down, you know, I was down with, I didn't eat enough calories today. And so of course, in my mind, I went, oh my God, I lost, you know, four pounds today. It was all muscle because I feel, because I look flat because I'm low on calories. And so it would feel like it was all muscle that had gone away. And I think for that type of person that has this, you know, psychological dependence on eating every two hours, I like to interrupt that for somebody like that. But for everybody else, I really didn't see that much value in incorporating fasting. Yeah, you know, it's funny that, because it changed so radically, right? When we were all early trainers, fasting wasn't a thing in the fitness space. You saw some people maybe in the spiritual wellness side that would talk about fasting. And fast things existed in religious practices forever. It's a form of detachment and I can see some value there. But in our space, fasting was not a thing at all. And when clients would come in and say, they skip meals, it was like, don't skip meals. You got to eat, you can't starve yourself. That's a terrible thing. And then all of a sudden we had this huge, you know, reversal where fasting is the greatest thing. And I get it, you see that in fitness, right? Where it goes from one end to the other. But it went so extreme. And then you had these kind of fasting zealots talk about cellotophagy, anti-inflammatory effects. And they're talking about all these beneficial physiological effects as if they're unique to fasting. Well, now we have studies that show they're not. They're not unique to fasting. If you just cut your calories, you'll get those same benefits. Now that doesn't mean that fasting is or isn't for everybody. I think if it works for you, that's totally fine. But you can't sell it anymore as this like physiological miracle that you can't get from regular caloric restriction. You do. You cut your calories, you cut your proteins, your carbs, your fats, and you compare yourself to somebody who eats in a, you know, a feeding window, a short feeding window, both people being calorie, you know, a calorie deficit. Same effects. You don't see any big effects. Well, I mean, if it works for you in terms of like being able to kind of keep a certain maintenance of calories, like, you know, people eat in totally different schedules based off of their work and their lifestyle and all that stuff. So it's like, you know, it's not like coming at people who have like this window that they have a nice structure with that works for them. It's really just like realize that you just are reducing your calories to this amount and all those benefits are the same. It's not because of, you know, this specific window you've created. Well, what's your guys' thoughts on that? Because there's a lot of people that would make that argument. Like, oh, you know, it just works really well with me because, you know, if I don't eat till two or three in the afternoon, it keeps my calories down. But then I would question, you know, are they getting enough nutrients that their body needs to build muscle and get for long-term health? Like, sure, like in a short, short term. Is that going to mess with their hormones in terms of? Right. So in the short term, I understand that, okay, it could be a good strategy to keep somebody to keep their calories down a little bit. But then one of the things I always found when I would do these, you know, if you were doing consistently intermittent fasting every single day, only eating in that window. I mean, I already have a hard time hitting my protein and take with all 24 hours available to me. But if I condensed it down to either six or eight hour window, okay, sure, it helped me not over-consume calories. But then I now had that same challenge that I had before as a young guy lifting weights, which was I couldn't hit those 200 grams of protein. It's a good point. Yeah, you might be a bit nutrient deficient. You should probably test that, right? Because it would be hard to be consistently hitting all of those. Yeah, totally. And, you know, okay, so evolutionarily speaking, because there's an evolutionary argument, right? That humans evolved with long periods of time without food. I talked about this in our early podcast and I speculate this is probably why you see the benefits. But it's becoming quite clear. It's not the without food period that gave us those benefits, but rather the low calories. So it really doesn't make a difference. Now, to what you're saying, I agree. I think for some people it works okay. And for other people it doesn't. Like if you take somebody like you were saying, Adam, who's trying to hit certain targets, you know what you end up with when they have the small eating window is like this restrict calories or no food and then binge, no food and then binge. That's dysfunctional eating, you know? And I know because I started to fall in that pattern myself when I messed around with it, trying to eat the amount of calories that I needed, believing that it was the eating window that was providing me the benefits. So like, okay, I gotta eat 2,500 calories in two meals or I eat 3,000 calories in two meals. Well, now I'm eating 2,500 calorie meals or together within a couple hours of each other. And it felt like I was kind of stuffing myself, right? So those are the things you kind of wanna, you know, pay attention to. But yeah, caloric restriction does the same thing. So it's not, there's no magic to the fasting aside from maybe the, like I said, the detachment effects, the detachment benefits that you may get. But then again, that's true for anything that you fast from, like electronics, you can fast from, you can fast from caffeine, you'll get some of those effects. And it's more psychological than- Well, I'm sure we just made a couple people angry. Yeah, we're all gonna be honest. Speaking of electronics, did you see the big recall on Fitbit? No, what happened? 1.7 million Fitbits recalled. Dude, recall, why? Yeah, why? Why were there three of them back? So the, what is it, the lithium or ion battery or whatever battery that's inside there was burning people. Oh, that's a legit recall. Yeah, I think they had like 190 something complaints of it heating up and actually burning people. So they ended up recalling 1.7 million. What I haven't seen, so I saw, I read that news. So I could really feel this burning. Yeah, it's working. I bet you there was some people that actually thought like that. Maybe Doug can pull up the ticker, I'm curious. We almost bought Fitbit last year. I think we almost, can you remember before he pulls it up? So before he pulls it up, I think I know what it was the ticker was at back then. I think it was around $6. We almost bought Fitbit. We did. Did we buy Fitbit? No, no, no, no, we almost did. There's some restrictions in terms of like the data, I remember that was like an issue. Wait, who owns Fitbit? Fitbit. Oh, no, somebody acquired them. Somebody acquired them. Yeah, somebody did. Is that right? Yeah, I don't remember the name of the company, but. Brilliant marketing on Fitbit's part, right? We're gonna permanently brand people's arms. Look at the rest of Fitbit on your arm. That's crazy, it actually burned people? Yeah, yeah, no. Just aren't you sure about Fitbit being acquired? I didn't know they were acquired by somebody. Wow. What are they at right now, Doug? What is that? So they were at $6 when we almost bought them out of here. Like a Cisco or a big company like that or something. Really? Doug, do you know how to read? We'll have to definitely look at that. Start prices there? Well, I'm seeing $2,543. You can't see it's not $2,000 per share. That does not seem right at all. That would be more valuable than Amazon, I doubt it. What is he looking at? I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking at. Okay, Justin, you're right. Google closes $2.1 billion acquisition of Fitbit as Justice Department probe continues. Google, that's right. Okay, this can be right, though. The company announced that in 2019, it was last year when we were looking at the ticker and I know it was around $6. Well, if Google owns it, then maybe we're looking at the price of Google. That is what John, that is what it is. Oh, is that what it is? Well, it says Fitbit here, but it says owned by Alphabet, which is Google's. Oh, it is Google. Okay. No wonder it's at $2,500. I'm like, damn, we missed out on that one, Adam. Not another one! That was at $6, we really missed out on that one. That would literally be like the fifth time. Oh, don't even bring those up. I swear to God, you know the challenge with your predictions is it only so far, it only works if we don't take action. The ones we don't do. So I'm wondering if we take action, it doesn't work, we don't take action. Well, maybe one of us invest, you know, as he says it, without telling anybody. That would make me more mad. That would then that would be like HubSpot when he did that with HubSpot because I told him to do HubSpot, and I didn't do it, so. And that went, bots up. Hey, I want to go off subject for a second, but you guys look beautiful with the lights. Oh, I know, isn't it? It's a nice little change in here. Yeah, it looks really nice. My white skin's glowing. Made a nice investment in trying to make it look all spiffy and good, so we'll see. Well, speaking of looking a certain way, I cannot believe that Jason Phillips allowed you to wear a fucking taco shirt on the sales ad page. What was he thinking? You're self a favorite girl on the sales page. Was it the taco eggplant? Yes, it was a taco eggplant shirt on a landing page for their NCI pitch towards coaching. And I do remember you asking him. Well, so it's. Cause I didn't know what you, I remember, I remember when he was here last. The level of professionalism. And I know, and he asked, he asked how could I do a quick video with you? And I was like, yeah, sure. And then they were running a 50% off enrollment and we had Jason on the show and he says, hey, Sal, can you do a quick video for the landing page? So when you go to the, whatever the page is, maybe Doug can tell us what the website is. If you go there, it's a landing page for the 50% off enrollment. So he's like, make a video. And I had on a shirt. We'll post it up here if you're watching this. It's a taco with an eggplant. So thankfully at least we have one certification that believes in us. And I'm like, Jason, you sure you don't want me to change it? No, no, no, that's all good. It's all good. And it's up there. It is, it's on the landing page. I was just looking at it. I thought, oh my God, this dude did, but I mean, I do remember you asked, you know, I clearly remember you saying, hey, is this shirt okay? And he was like, yeah, yeah, it's good. Oh man, that's embarrassing. I don't give a shit. Whatever, whatever, we're real. Hey, speaking of, I gotta bring this up to Jason. I wanna see what happened here. So, so I got, obviously I got kicked off Instagram, so I'm not there. Every once in a while I go on the Mind Pump Instagram, under Mind Pump Instagram, just to see what's going on. Yeah, we're all kind of logged in there. Reading comments and I'll answer some questions or whatever. And I don't do too much. I don't wanna get the Mind Pump page kicked off too. Yeah, please don't. But I go on the, I went on the, what is it, the explore page, right? Where they do suggestions. And the explore page reflects your searches, right? So if you look up a lot of like booty pics, you can see booty pay. If you look up workouts, you can see workouts, stuff, cars, cars. Guilty. And I'm on there and there's videos that are, they're disgusting. They're the pimple popping, squeezing in shit at your pimple popper. So gross. Now, I do wanna say this. Ever since we brought Courtney on staff, bro. That's exactly what it is. Little fishy to me, bro. Ever since you brought the wife on the team, dude. Yeah. And I know, I know she's on there. That's so funny. Is she looking up like pimple popping gross? Yeah, so you guys kind of brought this up. And like, I thought the same thing. Because honestly, like that stuff is like porn for her. Like I get caught looking at stuff. She's always on there looking at like disgusting chimp, like, you know, popping of things and pulling things out of people. Jessica likes that too. You ever seen packing where they like put like gauze into like these wounds and like, I'm like, what is wrong with you? It's like, you mentioned that off, you know, Aaron, like I was like talking to her like, honey, are you looking at this stuff? Is there on to you? She's like, no, you have to tell her. I'm like super, she's like so prides herself and being professional. She's all denying it. She's like totally denying it. She's just as bad as the guy who's denying the booty pics. His whole explore page is all fucking bikini pics, right? Just admit you got caught. Why do they always recommend these bikini pics to you, honey? Like, I don't know, huh? I'm looking at cars on there. Just like squeezing out. It is disgusting. It is evolutionary. That's what it is. Because when we were back when we were, you know, primates or whatever, you know, you ever watch chimp, you know, chimp videos? That's what they do. They like squeeze each other's whatever and they groom each other. Yeah. Jessica doesn't say, if I have a black head or a hair to pull out or something weird like that and I do it without Jessica doing it for me, she's legitimately angry with me for at least a couple of minutes. I'm telling you guys, pimple porn. Like you might as well like have the URL. She's shown me videos. And it's the, I can't, I can't even watch it. And she watches the whole thing. She's like, it's so gratifying. What the hell are you talking about? You know, speaking of porn, you see, you see my girl posting naked, naked photos again. Oh, Britney Spears. Yeah, that girl, not my wife, girl. Like what's going on, bro? No, not dude. Yeah. He's all proud. Hey, check this out. Ever since she like, you know, got freed up, right? The whole free Britney thing. Now she's really being freed. It was, it was on Instagram and she was just naked on the beach, I guess. I feel like I like her more. Yeah. Yeah. See, are you with me? I think so. She's kind of just throwing it up. Like, hey, you know, I'm doing it. What category would she be in now? Milford, Cougar. Well, yeah, she's a mom and she's in her 40s now, right? Yeah. She's got to be, right? Or close to 40. She was a little bit younger. She didn't look bad in the pictures, but she did go off a little bit. Ever since she got, like you said, she got, what did she do? She cut herself off from the contracts. Yeah, I think the judge finally gave her... They freed her. Yeah. She was under the, you know, the daddy contract where daddy had all full control of her finances. I don't know what you call it. And now they were saying... There's a term for it. Wasn't the reason they were saying that they were in control of her... Because she's a little crazy. Because she's a little crazy. Yeah, and then this happens. Now she's doing this shit. Oh, she's 40. Okay. Yeah, so she's... Yeah, well, I mean, the level of fame she had... Oh, Christina Aguilera is a year older. I thought she was actually younger. It's funny you brought that up, because that just reminded me of something I had on my notes to tell you guys. Do you know... Okay, so I've been pushing you guys on the whole Waze thing, the Waze app. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, because of the cops and everything. I told you it's like... Tells you when there's a pump. Yeah, so I'm on there yesterday and I have an option for Christina Aguilera. What? So I click on it. So she talks to me now. What, on your Waze app? Yeah, so she gives me my directions and she said like when there's obstacles, like she'll say things like... Like obstacles, something about like, you know, overcoming them, like how powerful and empowering it is. So yeah, no, it's hella funny. Yes, yes, it's very empowering. Shut your face. I like Justin's navigate. We drive home, we're drove home together from... Well, he's like one of the generic like Irish chicks. No, no Irish, it's English. Oh, it's English. Yeah, she sounds very, you know, like... This is actually Christina Aguilera. So it was an option on the Waze thing. Before we take on today, let's take a second to make sure we buckle up, okay? It asked if I wanted to have her do my directions. I'm like, hell yes I do. Does she get like all diva at some stop signs? Well, so I mean, I literally only drove today with it and so far I saw the obstacles and the traffic and it was, you know, very uplifting, right? I was in traffic, but I felt like... Oh, wow. We're to get through this. We're to get through this, Adam. Everything's going to be okay. Dang, I had such a transition here. I was going to talk about Cougars because of Cougars. So like, it was a pretty funny story. So at the school, it starts out not seeming funny because there was like a lockdown in the school. So they thought there was like a mountain lion. Oh. Like, like roaming through... Yeah, that's funny, Adam. It was a bomb threat. There's a mountain lion. I mean, neither one of those are funny. No school, that's true. Yeah, so a guess, like, this is like that game, like telephone, right? So you, you, you, you know, tell the next person it gets distorted and so this is kind of what happened. Like, it was a big tall tale. Turns out that they did some investigating and they were looking around after they shut the school down and it was just a big, fat tabby cat. That someone thought was a mountain lion? Yeah, that like, one kid said it was like a big cat. Then another kid was like, oh, it's a big cat. And then there's a cougar and then like, and then they shut the school down. And as they shut the school down, like some kid was like still in the bathroom, right? And everybody was gone. And like all of the classrooms were locked and he's like freaking out over like a tabby cat. Oh my God, dude. So have you guys seen, now that everybody has those surveillance cameras, like ring and, you know, those alarm cameras, people now are, because this is, I didn't realize this, but apparently there's a lot of neighborhood, especially here in the Bay Area where these mountain lions, they roam like neighborhoods early morning. They've been in my backyard before. We see them on the- Yeah, so people will post pictures of like, of the, of these mountain lions on their car or walking, you know, on their lawn. They make crazy weird noises too at night. Like it sounds like a screaming person. Yeah. Now it's super rare, right? That they do anything? Yeah, no, they, it's super rare. They'll attack unless it's like, I mean, there's been examples of this, I think even on, in Almaden on one of those trails, where, you know, they grabbed like a kid and then the dad had to like wrestle him out. I swear to God, this happened so- So I've seen one- Quick silver. I've seen one on a trail before, exactly. That's the trail. So I was on that trail and I turned a corner and there was one just chilling, just looking at me. And, you know, it's a freaking wild animal in, right there and mountain lions are legit. Like that thing could take you- Well, little dogs and like kids you gotta really watch out for it for sure. Hey, speaking of dads and rescuing, so did you guys finally read the news on Cain Vlasquez? Did you see that? No, so he, so he shot, this is what I heard, right? He shot somebody that tried to molest his niece. Is that what it was? Yeah, I think it's his niece. Maybe Doug can look up, I mean, it's all over- It said family member, I didn't know exactly which one. Yeah, I think it was niece. I think it was like a four year old niece. I think there should be a law that says if that person is found guilty of molesting your kid that you are absolved of all- Definitely reduced sentence. Yeah, like you gotta do community service. It's gonna be interesting to see what they do. I mean, I think what happened was he went after him and the dude fled the scene and had somebody else with him and they took off in a car and Cain fired a gun at him and hit the driver. I think he missed, right? He missed the guy and hit the driver. Oh, so he didn't actually kill the guy? No. Oh, well, that sucks. Yeah, and he hits the other guy. Now, I don't think the other guy died. But I do think he's getting attempted murder on that guy right now. Wow. I hope he get, you know, I don't know. That's a tough one for me. Obviously, we don't want a bunch of vigilantes because people make mistakes and you could accidentally hurt somebody that didn't do anything. But on the flip side as a dad, I don't know if I'd be able to not do something like that. You know what I mean? I have a lot of empathy for molesters. I feel like everybody should get like a pass on something like that. You get one, you get like one crazy pass of like some bullshit happens like that where, I mean, if this was like a recurring pattern in your life and you like take advantage and you kill people just because you think you can or whatever, like that's probably where you're heading. That's not a good idea. We don't need a lot of those. But I mean, if something happened to a niece of mine or a daughter or a son of mine, God, help. I'd rather take, I'll take my chances. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if I would be, I think I would probably do something like that, right? No, just how it would take over. Did you find it, Doug? Yeah, I'm having some difficulty here, but it sounds like it was an underage relative. So he allegedly shot a man accused of molesting his relative earlier this week. Mm, yeah, well, there you go. That's what happens. Although, I mean, shit, man. That guy's lucky to be, he got shot because if Kane got his hands on him without, he would have been a much worse. That's why he ran, I'm sure. Yeah, big ass. He's gonna stick around with King Velazquez coming after you. Holy cow. Hey, did you guys hear about the trainer that forgot to move the decimal on his caffeine? Oh, I did. He died. Died, dude. But it was like, it was like 200 cups of coffee. Yeah, so if you, and this is one of the reasons why caffeine powders, there's been this push to make them illegal. Yeah, it's super dangerous. Because milligrams and grams is a big difference, right? Okay, so a serving of caffeine typical is two or 300 milligrams. Like a strong pre-workout will have like 300 milligrams caffeine. That is, that's not even, that's only one-third of a gram of caffeine, right? So if somebody messes up and doesn't realize milligrams to grams and goes, oh, 300 grams. Well, now they just took 3,000 milligrams of caffeine and they're gonna die. Oh my God, dude. That's insane. That's not the first time that's happened. There was a kid, I believe in the UK that did the same thing where he took a scoop because caffeine powder can be very, very concentrated. Super concentrated. So where, you know, think about this way. You know how much five grams of creatinine is. It's a tiny scoop, right? That would be like 5,000 milligrams of caffeine in a similar size scoop. Well, didn't they try and make a, cause it was the same kind of a thing with the powdered alcohol. Like you could buy it online and like, so they're trying to make that illegal because, you know, powdered alcohol can imagine, you know, some kids getting their hands on that and then pouring it in. I've never seen that before. Have you seen that before? Yeah. Powdered alcohol? They were trying to make it the ultimate jungle juice. It's like super concentrated. I think they made it illegal because of that. You'd seen it though. I'd never seen it before. I was an article I had read a while ago about doing that. That's the thing you gotta be careful because some things are extremely potent in milligram or microgram. There's even stuff that's micrograms. And if you don't know the difference, then you can really screw yourself cause you look at the, you look at the back of the label and you go, oh, I have 200, you know, grams all the time. Not realizing that's 2000. So you just had a heart attack and it was just. Bro, caffeine, I tell you what, I'm gonna tell you right now. If caffeine was invented today, it would 100% be illegal. There's, there would never, it would not make it a legal product. There's no way in hell. And now we have it obviously in kids' drinks and you know, everybody's drinking. That's how potent caffeine isn't how potentially dangerous it is. Like you drink, think about this way, right? You have like a rock star, 300 milligrams of caffeine. If the average person drinks two of those at once, they'll have some severe potential effects. Maybe you ain't slipping that night for sure. Maybe throwing up, they might have super nausea, unless they have a super high tolerance, drink three of those and now you're getting close to maybe killing yourself just from rock stars. So if it was like I said, if it was legal today or if it was invented today, it would definitely be, it would be a drug, it would be a street drug that you'd buy from your drug deal. Yeah, I'd be signing up for that. Which is kind of my fix, dude. Since we're sharing crazy stories. You'd be an addict for sure. I read a crazy story and I don't remember what I was reading but what article or whatever, but there was an article on the CEO, the original CEO of FedEx, Fred Smith. Have you heard the story of when they were about to file bankruptcy and what happened? No. Okay, I didn't, I don't know how I didn't know this. So this is like in the mid-70s when FedEx was first up and coming and they were down to their last $5,000 and we're gonna have to file bankruptcy. The CEO, Fred Smith goes and lays it all in blackjack. No way, dude. Yes, he quadruples his money, comes back and brings the company back for life. The most irresponsible thing you could possibly do. Never works, dude. And it did work, dude. What a terrible story because some money's running through that. I know, dude. Somebody was like, oh, dude, I can still do this. Someone's listening to that right now and they're like, you know what, if I'm gonna take my kid's college savings and I'm gonna just, we're gonna get rich, honey. You know, that's like everybody initially thinks and then they go there and just get like obliterating. Dude, I told you guys about, there's only one time I've gone to Vegas with a legit high roller. So this person had a gambling website. This was here, this was a long, it was like maybe 15 years ago. Back when gambling websites were kind of starting to grow or whatever. Anyway, this guy obviously had tons of money and he was friends with a friend of mine so I didn't know this guy. And we went to the casino together and I'd never seen anything like this before but he literally blew through $30,000 on the roulette table in 10 minutes. 30 grand in 10, I saw him just put chips all over the table, gone, gone, gone. Dude, it's really, it's like the speed for me, you know? To lose like, you didn't even sit there for very long and boom, it's gone just like that. It's not as crazy as you think about it when you think about the amount of money that person's probably worth. Well, that's the thing that blew me away. Yeah, that's what, that sounds crazy like to you or I. Sure, but to him that's like me losing 100 bucks. Exactly, I mean, it's no, you've definitely seen people throw 100, people that probably shouldn't throw 100 bucks on there, throw 100 bucks on there and lose it all day long. So when you see somebody gambling 30,000 it seems like, oh my God, that's so much money but it's like, that's like gas money. Yeah, when I went to Monte Carlo years ago they have a casino there. And it's one of the, I mean, you know, that's like one of the richest places in the world. And you have to pay money to go in the casino, you have to pay a fee. So I did, I went in. Yeah, pay money to lose money. And I saw, and there were, all the tables had a 5,000 minimum euro bet. Minimum was 5,000 euro, okay? This was bad, and this was a long time ago. So it was like 20 years ago. And I saw people put in, and I would do the math kind of from a distance and kind of try to add it up. And it was like, nobody was bent less than 100,000 euro on each thing. So to these people who are billionaires, it's like peanuts, it's nothing. You just throw it around, like whatever. Yeah, no, it's all relative to your income. I remember getting into this with my buddies, he's like super conservative with his money was giving me shit about like my cars and stuff. And when you factor in, and he's like soup, like he's been driving the same car since 2005. And like he's like super tight on, I'm like, when you do the amount of money that we each make and what you drive, so you just made me feel real bad about it. Well, I mean, as you give or talk about shit, he was talking about shit to me about being like irresponsible. I'm like, what are you talking about? Like based off our percentage of our income, you are spending more than I am. So it's just, it's all relative to me. Well, it's like this, right? Trip off this, right? If you make a hundred grand a year, so six figures, and you buy a $10,000 car. Which nobody does, by the way, so you shouldn't even use that as an example. Yeah, but let's just say you did it, right? A $100,000 you buy a $10,000 car, which would be, that's very responsible I think, by a $10,000 car. Oh, you're being responsible, say that's not what most people do. No, most people make a hundred grand by a $30,000 car. But let's say you buy a $10,000 car and you make a, if you make a million dollars, it's like buying a $100,000 car. That's the same ratio, right? Buying a $30,000 car and making a hundred grand, it's like buying a $300,000 car, if you make a million dollars. So yeah, totally makes sense. So, trip off this, right? So this weekend, I went and donated blood over at the Red Cross. So there's a shortage, right? There's a blood shortage right now, and my wife, she does this, she's now done this a couple of times. It's a good deed to do. Yeah, she brings it up, you should go donate, you should go donate, and so, and I have type O, which is the universal one, right? Type O negative? I don't know, I'm gonna find out, but I know it's O. I know. So I did, I scheduled it and I went, and of course, because I did. They'll still take it with all the STDs in everything too, because it doesn't, they will only give my blood. I mean, the screen is out. Oh, other STDs, okay, that makes sense. Remember, they cancel each other out. But anyway, so I'm over there and I'm waiting and of course, I get on my phone, I look up side effects and effects of donating blood, and I didn't know this, so trip off this. For men, there are legit, like significant health benefits to donating blood. Okay, so I know bodybuilders that used to do this all the time. Yes, okay, now bodybuilders may do it for a different reason, because when you're on anabolic, red blood cells go through the roof. Yeah, that's why they do it. And donating blood helps keep you. Yeah, that's why they would do it. So this is different reasons. All men, so across the board, men who donate blood once a year will reduce their heart attack risk by something like 88%. So what's, why? What's the logic? They reduce their cancer risk significantly as well, and they're in issues with the liver significantly. So what's the cause, right? Men don't bleed monthly like women do, so our iron levels tend to build over time. And getting, you know- Flushing it out. Yes, interesting. Too high of iron is toxic to the body. It can cause issues with the heart, it can cause issues with the liver, it can increase your risk of cancer. So when you look up the studies on men who donate blood regularly once a year, there's significant health benefits from doing so. Pretty crazy, right? Now here's the crazy thing about it. Weird to me that they don't sell that. Like they don't sell that idea to people. I know, I would totally sell that. Right, yeah. You know, because now you get all those people who just want to get healthier would donate their blood. Right, right. Totally. Now, there are also psychological benefits. I looked this up as well. Now this makes sense too. There's lots of psychological benefits because you feel like you're helping people and you're doing something good for other people. So that's all, but I kind of figured that. The physiological benefits though blew me away. So here's what's trippy about this. How many times have we learned about an ancient or old practice that we've made fun of have some truth to it? Oh, bloodletting, right? Yeah, or like with leeches and all that. Dude, like they did this during medieval times all the time. Now the thought was, like any kind of ailment or whatever, like let's just, you know, have you lose some blood. Yeah, because they thought you would get rid of the, whatever was in you. Yeah, the blood demons. But what's weird is that there's some, there's like this small benefit to it. How many times have we found that? So like another one would be like, you know, you ever seen the masks that the black plague doctors would wear? The plague doctor mask. The long ones. The super long, and then when they would use the long beak and they would pack it full of herbs and flowers and stuff cause they thought the smell would prevent them from catching whatever disease. But in reality, it is, it kept them far away from their patients. So they have this long beak and they wouldn't get very close to the patients. And that probably prevented some infection. Yeah, I thought it was the not smelled like dead people. That's why they said, right? Cause they don't understand. To not smell dead people? Yeah, cause they're around dead people everywhere, dude. Well, they thought that the smell, and that's another thing. They thought that the smell is what brought the illness. Now how close they were to viruses and bacteria in the air, right? How close they were without even realizing it. That kind of stuff trips me out. It is cool. Like crazy. Yeah, I was anticipating you going the evolutionary route of like, like men should, you know, always have like a gash wound or something, you know, from fighting, you know, like we all, we should be losing more. Well, he's talked about that before, the whole scar thing before, right? Like the women will find a man with a scar on his face more attractive than that. Isn't that funny? It's so not true for women, that's sad, right? But if you take a guy who's handsome, right? Or considered handsome, and then you put a scar on his face, they've done studies like that. Women will find him more attractive. Yeah. Did you get to listen to that Jordan Peterson interview yet or no? No, I didn't. Oh, you didn't. Why is he talking about that? No, no, no, it's something else that would have been nice to talk about right there if you actually listened to it. Oh, sorry. Just put your blouse on. Never nails, bro. No, we're just kidding. Maybe we can get Jessica on the show. Doug, maybe. Maybe have Jessica on here since she fucking reads or listens to all the stuff I send his way so we can discuss it and talk about it. Shut your face. Why don't you bring it up? Well, because I mean, if you can't have a discussion around it, like I need you to have seen it or one of you to have seen it so we can kind of have dialogue around whether we agree or disagree. And he was talking about the, primarily with like women and what they're attracted to and how they date either lateral and up, right? I've heard you talk about that. Women never date like, well, not never, but like more likely we'll date lateral and up and they won't date, which is what makes. In terms of like income or intelligence. Intelligence, all that, right? So as they become more intelligent and more financially successful, the pool shrinks for them and the opposite is true with men. I know. As men get more intelligent and more financially successful, the pool opens up for them and for women it shrinks down. Yeah, I remember training some very successful female entrepreneurs, business owners, surgeons and they would tell me that it was difficult for them to find like a person to date because obviously if you're a female surgeon, to them. Not a lot of guys ahead of you. Yeah, to them it was like, you're right that and they wouldn't necessarily say it that way but that's kind of what was happening. I used to watch these shows at Millionaire Matchmaker or whatever and it was like a common thing, especially it was a lot harder for busy successful women to find the match. Yes, and by the way, okay. So I've heard people blame this on insecure men and I'm sure that's part of it. Like a guy may feel insecure dating a woman that out earns him, that maybe is perceived to be more intelligent. So that I could see that but there's another side to it that's also true which is that women don't like and this is just statistics. Typically don't like to date men that make less than them. They themselves don't like to date men who are lower on the financial rung than they are. So it goes both ways. But I mean, it's an interesting thing, right? It's very interesting, but it's a- Yeah, do you not believe that we're kind of born with some of this? I feel like the idea of providing for my wife and child, I don't feel like it was something, it definitely was something that was taught to me. It was something that I felt it inside me for as long as I could imagine. That's always been in the back of my mind. Even what's kept me from marrying and having a child at an earlier age was I wanted to get myself as prepared as I possibly could before I took on that responsibility. That was very important to me. And it wasn't like someone taught me that or told me that, it was just something I felt inside. That was the evolutionary argument supports that, right? That for thousands and thousands of years, most of the time that we were on earth, the male was the provider would hunt in the protector and the nurturer and the one that took care of the offspring was the female. And that was just the way it worked. Also why women tend, this is again with the evolutionary argument, why they tend to prefer more mature men because it meant that they probably had access to more resources, they probably, and the same thing with Scar, right? Remember we talked about the Scar on the face? He's probably kicked some ass and survived. He's probably not afraid to get in a scuffle to protect or whatever. And it's not true in the other direction. Now I think that obviously as we evolve and continue to evolve, we can move past some of the stuff or try to or acknowledge it. But I also think denying some of those routes that we have is silly. I think we need to acknowledge them. And then if we want to move past them and change certain things, I think that's totally fine. But I think denying them, like they don't exist is also kind of silly because the data shows that. People are comfortable with different roles these days especially. But yeah, I mean it did come from somewhere. It's not like we just made this stuff up. I felt that way the same you were describing. Hey, I wanted to bring up a supplement from LiveOn that I noticed a very interesting effect. Okay, so at the moment we're testing out a continual glucose monitor. I'm not gonna talk specifically about the company yet because we still are working things out with them. But nonetheless, what it does is it measures your sugar levels, right? Your blood sugar levels, your blood glucose. And so what's cool about this is you can eat food. You can see how the food affects your glucose. You can see how your sleep affects your glucose or lack of sleep or stress or whatever. So it's all real time. So it's really, really cool. Well anyway, LiveOn has their liposomal supplements. So, and I talked about their glutathione. I've talked about some of their other stuff. But they also have something called alphalopoic acid. And alphalopoic acid increases insulin sensitivity and helps bring glucose down in the blood. And it's been used to help increase creatine absorption. So this is for a long time now. We've known that alphalopoic acid will increase creatine absorption because it increases sensitivity with insulin and all that stuff. Anyway, taking the alphalopoic acid before I ate a carb-heavy or starch-heavy meal resulted in a lower response. And I've tested it like five different times. No, so for me, I hover around the 130, 140 as my peak when I after I eat. And then I think I come back down to I wanna say 80 range. Does that sound right? Yeah, 60 to 80 range. I think it's in a kind of state. You're like below 100 when you're fasted and then it goes up as high as I can. Yeah, it's high, yeah. And I'm really, the highest I hit is 140. I've even tested it with, although I did go over, I had the Costco cinnamon rolls. Bro, have you had those? No, are they good? Bro, I cannot believe someone didn't tell me about these. You've been saying that and I'm like, don't, you know, bring them. They were introduced to me just... Were they just in the package or they have like a baker or anything? No, just like you just toss them in the oven for a few minutes to heat them up and they're ready to go. And they are... You said they're better than cinnamon. I do think they're better than cinnamon. That's how good they are. I just got introduced to them literally like two weeks ago. I had them over at my buddy's house. They served them and I thought, oh my God, who made these cinnamon rolls? And they're like, that's Costco. I'm like, get out of here. And I thought maybe it was like just an anomaly. Like maybe there's something special that she did or something like that. So I had Katrina pick them up the other day and I said, holy shit. They're like this dangerous. Wait, so when you eat it, is your... Yeah, so that was all you get. Yeah. I mean, could have something to do with eating like three of them. That might have something to do with it. So, but yeah, that was... So I've been... Ever since we got these things, I've been like kind of testing like different foods. I mean, it was interesting. One night I decided to smash 10 tacos and I was cool. Like didn't even spike me over 140. Kept under like 130 something range. But then literally, and it wasn't, I was joking about having three cinnamon rolls. I had not even a full one of these things and it shot me over that. Have you played with combining fats with your sugars and trying to see if different things change? So I typically eat that way. So I haven't like isolated, other than the case where I had a cinnamon roll just by itself, right? Dude, I had three blowpops and my shit went up to 180. Blowpops? Yeah, well yeah, you brought them. What are you acting all surprised for? No, I mean, they're only like 40 calories. It's pure candy. But it's only 40 calories. Yeah, but you guys see how I eat them. I don't lick them for an hour and a half like you do. All three of them. Remember the Al commercial? One, two, three. Three licks to get to the center of a lollipop. I went in the back and I forgot. Remember when Adam brought them? What were they, Halloween? What were they from? Katrina bought them for my 40th birthday and I remember when she bought them, I'm like, what the fuck's up with the lollipops, right? And I think it was because she, you know, and in her defense, I think I made a comment. Like, man, you know, I wanted a lollipop. Like literally like, I don't know, a year. It was a year ago now, right? Like a year ago, I brought up like, I haven't had a lollipop in like a decade or two, right? So for my birthday, she decides to like, I'm like, I just wanted one, you know, say not a hundred. So we had like a lollipop station at my birthday party. Yeah, so you bring a shoebox of blow pop. She dumped them on you guys. So I went back there. This was like day three of wearing the... Well, you eat them like tic-tac. She wasn't eating them like that. That's what I did. I crunched like three or four of them, dude, and I went, but still though, that's interesting. That's still only, you're only talking about a hundred something calories. It's all sugar, but I think each one's like 15 grams of sugar. So I had three. So that's 45 grams of sugar, all at one shot. Okay, still not crazy. Like a soda. That's equivalent to you having a soda or something. So here's the deal with mine. Mine can go, mine spikes higher than yours, but it comes down really, really well. The alphalopoic acid blunted it, which was, like I said, I tested it five different, to five different times. Yeah. I would do the alphalopoic acid, then I would have a meal that I had before. So I knew what my numbers would be. And it's like a 20 to 30 point lower drop because I'll take the alphalopoic acid about 10 minutes, 15 minutes before, then eat the meal and I get a lower glucose response. Really interesting, right? So I could see benefit from taking alphalopoic acid. So let's say you're an athlete and you just worked out hard and you want to get your glycogen, okay, so this is like the muscle energy. You want to get it replenished as fast as possible because you're going to have another workout a little bit later, or you have a break and you want to, you know, maybe an hour break and you're going to go back and go after it again. And you want to get as much glycogen as possible. Alphalopoic acid with your meal, that theoretically should make that happen way faster. Well, I'll play with it now because I've been really, I've been really consistent with mine. So I've been really consistent and I've been playing around with different foods. I do find it really interesting. What I, you know, I know we're not doing a commercial for them right now, but I do think it's really cool how they have like a nutritionist that's connected to you. I mean, she's blown me up more time than I can respond. She, anytime she notices something different on mine, she'll, she'll message. I was monitoring also. I had a bazookie the other night. I was like, calm down. Did you really? Yeah. Like a whole one by yourself? What is it? I shared it. I'm not like a gluttonous pig over here. So what did the glucose monitor do? Oh, it's like 150. I hadn't got up that high at all. Like I, again, like you, I got like 130s. Yeah. Kind of the highest they'll go. So I noticed, so you guys know. So you're the worst. That's weird. Yeah. No, that's not because you guys know that I'm messing with the Ibutamorin, the peptide that raises growth hormone. Megs. So what'd you, first of all, what'd you think would happen? We get connected with a TRT clinic that also prescribed. I knew exactly what was going to happen. Like I'm going to have a good time, right? I'm going to try everything. So far I'm trying the NAD plus. We're just glad you're better at math than that guy with the caffeine. Okay, right? Just glad. I'm messing with the Ibutamorin, which legit, which legit, by the way, for me works. It's like I'm gaining size on it, which is kind of interesting. And I get better sleep. I notice the skin, all that stuff. But when you raise growth hormone, you will desensitize yourself a little bit to insulin. So it's not, you definitely shouldn't take something that raises your growth hormone if you have issues with glucose and insulin. But if you're healthy, you're going to be okay. Now I know you and the doctors are supposed to be meeting today and putting together a couple of different packages or stacks for depending on what peptides for what your goals are. Any idea of when you expect that to be live for the audience? So you check out. I think after I meet with them, we should be able to have it live. Oh, so hopefully maybe this week or two. I'm hoping, yeah. Oh, okay. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, it'll be cool because it gives options to people who don't need hormone therapy but want to go to the next level. And I say next level because these are prescriptions. So obviously I don't, I think if you're unhealthy and you have a bad diet and you don't work out, like you have no, there should be no reason why you're going to work with peptides. But if you've got everything dialed in, you're one of those people that really likes to push it at the next level, see what can happen. You want to get monitored. Then peptides are very fascinating, very interesting for what they could do. So we're going to put together some packages. I love Dr. Todd and Rand. They've been, it's been really nice. So for me, my whole life, my whole life that I've messed with steroids, I've done it all myself. And you know, right now I'm going through a situation where this is where it's so nice to have them because we're trying to figure out the right amount of aromidex for me to run because my estrogen levels, I'm very sensitive. Testosterone, I'm very sensitive to anything. Generally sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. That dick. Hold on, don't cry right now. Don't cry. I am, right? She's just gushing. My body really responds quick to anything that we take. And you know, I thought I had it all dialed in because I felt really good. But then when we did my blood work at the three month mark, my estrogen levels were too low. Too low. Yeah. Did you have some stiffness? I did. It was funny because we had our meeting before my blood work came and I was like, he's asking how I was doing. I'm like, man, I feel great. I said, the only I do notice is I've got some stiffness in the joints way more than I used to. And I'm not really going hard or heavy. So that feels weird to me. And I know I could be better about my mobility, but it's still a lot worse than I would expect it. And he goes, well, we'll see when you get your blood work. Well, sure enough. He goes, well, one of the side effects is low estrogen levels will cause that. So then he had me completely stop the aromidex for a couple of weeks. Then I started to battle my gynecomastia. That came, that started to come back. So then I went back to that dose and just like literally today, am I starting to feel back to normal? But I also want to be able to pull back on the arm. Yeah, I think messing with your hormones without getting regular blood work to find the ideal. Oh man, this was me guessing as a, you know, and I wouldn't say I'm like well read, but I'm pretty read when it comes to that. Like I've been. Yeah, you weren't a kamikaze person by any stretch of your head. No, no, no, no. And I had the anabolic Bible and I, you know, did my fair share of all the forums and stuff like that, reading up on stuff and kind of figured out what I thought was the best dose for me. But really I was, you know, trial and error. You're guessing a lot where it's nice to have somebody who's like checking. Yeah, cause what happens is if you're basing it off of symptoms, you're already behind the eight ball. Right. Because by that point, estrogen now has been too high or too low for however many weeks and now you're feeling the symptoms and now you gotta play ketchup. Right. You go get blood work. This is what I love, right? I'll go get blood work regularly. Then they'll come back and say, let's try this, let's try that, you know, or everything looks good. And I appreciate that. Versus, you know, again, you're in the dark. You have no idea what's going on. And that's when you start to, you know, run into, you know, some issues. Yeah. Like the, again, the Ibute of Moren is really interesting. It also is making me hungry, which is really, which is, which I'm trying to cut. Simultaneous. Oh dude, I'm on day, I'm on day four of my cut and I've gained two pounds. I need to figure out what's going on. Dude, you're the most hulkish I've ever seen. Yeah. But appetite's really high. I got my metabolism going up real high through this process. So now my appetite's through the roof. Ibute of Moren is a ghrelin mimic. This is why it makes your growth hormone go up, but ghrelin also makes you hungry, right? Cause it's telling your body you have no food. So we'll see what happens, but my appetite is just, it's really high. But I'm trying to bring it down because I told you guys I'm snoring. That's not good, dude. And I'm not going to wear the, the, the, I'll never have sex again, mask again. I'm not going to do that. That's so fucked up. I don't want to use that. I know I'm sorry if you got to wear that, but I don't want to wear a big ass. No, you can control it. And I've been in the same boat as you too. Like when I start to. You can still have sex, so you can get it done. Justin, don't give a fuck. Vader mask, you know. That's because you already wear a Vader mask when you're trying to get some. It's fine, dude. As long as you're wearing some of the Star Wars. No problem, no problem here. It's just paint, he just paints it black. So it looks like, it looks like Vader choked you out. Hey, real quick, you got to check this out. Now we work with a company called Luna. They provide quality physical therapy to your home and you don't need to go through your general practitioner. Your insurance covers it. All you got to do is go on their website and ask for help. 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Yeah, I used to think that you needed a leg curl machine to work the hamstrings. Now, of course that does work the hamstrings, but leg curls are not the best exercise for hamstrings, not even by a long shot. It's all of the hip extension movements, right? Your Romanian deadlifts, yeah, all day long. Stiff-legged deadlifts, Romanian deadlifts. You're gonna get such better results with all you need is free weights to do that. And as far as working the leg bicep, the part that curls the leg, the physio ball does that quite effectively. So you don't need- Now combo the two together and bingo. You've hit the whole thing and there's really no need for- That's all you would need. All you would need is a stability ball and or dumbbells or barbell. That's it. Like either one of those, and either one of those are work and then you have your RDLs with the physio ball and you're set. Now I love, you've told this story before Adam, but I love this as a kind of proof and evidence of the effectiveness of just deadlifts and Romanian deadlifts for developing hamstrings. You had said a while ago how you had avoided leg curls because you were trying to get better at deadlifts. I went back to do hamstring curls and were stronger than you were before. Yeah, blew my mind. Yeah, all from deadlifting. Yes, yes. And I spent years on the, I mean lying leg curls were like my staple hamstring move. And I wasn't a big deadlifter at all. And when I was trying to get, it was back when we all first got together and I was chasing you, your numbers on the deadlift. And I remember I had pretty much dropped all the, machine exercises that I was doing just to get good at the deadlift. And I was, I don't know, a year and a half later or whatever, I decided to return to this machine, which by the way, I spent my whole life consistently doing and like was stuck around this, you know, I don't know, I was doing a hundred something pounds. I think I got up to not very much on that machine and was instantly stronger than I had ever been. And I hadn't done it in over a year. I blew my mind. Yeah. In regards to the physio ball leg curl, like here's something that I really like about it. So when you do leg curls on a machine, here's something I used to do with clients in order to get them to feel it more in the hamstrings. So when you're doing the laying leg curl, right? Your thighs are on the pad. I would tell them to try to lift their thighs off the pad while curling their heels back because it would feel more of a squeeze on the hamstrings. And that's because that hip extension engages the hamstrings a little more. When you do a physio ball leg curl, that's natural, right? Cause you're automatically lifting your hips and curling the legs back. So I think that they're even better than a machine leg curl because of the isolate that really feel the hamstrings. The instability too, that you really have to work through to keep everything under control. Did we mention good mornings in there as well for hip hinging? But yeah, that would just be another one that I, you know, would add into this. And then if resistance is an issue with physio ball leg curls, which you shouldn't because you can really- Go to one leg. Go to one leg. Or here's something that's really interesting. Do a two leg physio ball leg curl, then bring it back with one leg. So you get that heavy negative, then bring it back with two legs and bring it back with the other leg. Or you superset physio ball leg curls with your Romanian deadlifts, which is what I would do when I was really trying to make, you know, do kind of hamstring focused workout. But yeah, you, of all the muscles that would benefit from using machines, it's really hamstrings aren't one of them. You don't need machines at all to develop incredible hamstrings. Next question is from Miriam MA. What do you think about the creatine loading phase? Yeah, you know, I went back and forth with this for a while. So when creatine first hit the market in the 90s, they suggested that you for a week take 20 grams a day. And then after that take what's called a maintenance phase of five grams a day. And the theory was that you saturate your creatine stores and then all you need is five grams a day to maintain that. And then I, you know, I went back and forth. So I did that. And then I read some studies. Because you're probably thinking it's a bit of a hustle, like a marketing hustle to get you through the actual amount of creatine, right? Yeah, so you're just taking a ton of it all at once. And then I went back on the other end, I said, well, studies actually show that you'll get creatine stores up just fine by taking five grams a day. But then I read more studies that show that. Faster though. That is true, but you get them up there faster. So if you're starting creatine and you wanna get those maximum creatine stores up faster then loading I guess has some benefit. But I mean, how much faster does it get up a week or two faster? I mean, I've trained myself since I was a kid to do the loading phase. So if I've been off of creatine for a while, I just, and I don't go like where I'm tripling or even doubling. I just do a heavy scoop for that first week or so. I just real generous when I'm scooping the creatine. That's kind of what I do. Now here's what's interesting too about creatine is so five grams a day's like the standard dose for most people take for the brain boosting or cognitive boosting effects. I had this conversation with Mike Matthews. We had him on the podcast and he brought this up and I talked to him about it afterwards. More creatine might be beneficial for the cognitive effects. So like more like 10 grams a day. So I've been experimenting with that. I haven't noticed anything just yet. So it's two scoops instead of one. How does that feel? How does that sit in your stomach? I have no issues with creatine. Do you find any issues with that? Just a certain amount will y'all feel a bit in the stomach. So yeah, I think everybody's either. I've heard some people like that too. Yeah, there's some people. Isn't that where the pitch on the other types of creatines came to was because it does upset some people's stomach and so then they have different delivery systems? Now I've gotten around that with clients. So I would say out of 10 clients, maybe one might be like, oh, I get a little upset stomach. I just have them divide the dose. So instead of doing five grams at once. Spread it out. Yeah, I'll have them do like three smaller. That's what I did. Or do it with food and they don't notice any issues. The other things you could do is take creatine with sodium or alphalipoic acid, which we talked about earlier, which increases absorption. So if you're trying to get those creatine stores to move up faster than combining it with sodium or carbohydrates or alphalipoic acid should also kind of do the trick. Next question is from James Ayres95. What are your thoughts on maintaining strength during a cut? That'd be awesome. That's a tough one. That'd be awesome if you can do it. Now, Adam, you're the only one that really did this in extreme because you competed. How big of a difference? Forget the two weeks right before a contest because there's no way in hell you keep any strength in the death weeks. But let's just say pre-contest versus off season. How much of a difference would you see in strength? You lose quite a bit. You do. Because you're in a deficit for so long consistently. I mean, when you're cutting for the show, I'm not talking about pre-cut. The cut for the show is going to be anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks depending on where your body fat percentage is. And pretty much after the first week of consistently being in a deficit, I would notice my strength. Which is also why, and we've talked about this on the show before, why I don't like to be trying to lift too heavy while I'm also cutting. Messes with your head. Yeah, so it just, it would mess with me psychologically. If all of a sudden I'm running like a five by five routine, I'm three weeks into my prep and I'm getting weaker every week, that can be really discouraging. And since my focus isn't about how strong I am getting on the show, it's all about the way I look. I prefer to do more hypertrophy type of training, supersets, giant sets. Because you gotta go lighter anyway. Better psychologically. It is. I've found the same thing. I'll much rather do some bodybuilder style hypertrophy training just because then I'm not like, fixated on those same numbers, those same lifts beforehand, be a little bit depressing. Now that being said, there is value to lifting heavy in a cut. I actually talked about this on my, in my story the other day or on my live I did. Cause somebody asked like, well, why would you even, would you ever want to lift heavy on that? Well, if you're sending a signal to the body to build muscle, even though you're in a caloric deficit and you're probably not going to build a lot, the likelihood of you holding on to more muscle I would think is higher. So I think there is an advantage to lifting heavy as if you were trying to build or trying to go heavy, even though your body's probably not going to allow you to be hitting PRs when you're in two, three weeks of a deficit. Totally a hundred percent. Now of course there's, there are places where you will get stronger when you cut. Body weight exercises, but that's mainly because you're lighter, right? So you'll find some weight ratio. Yeah. You'll find yourself with your strength to weight ratio, get better. This is why performance sometimes goes up when strength goes down. So if let's say you're an athlete that, agility is very important in your sport and you notice your strength goes down a little bit in the gym, but you lost also lots of body fat, you may find that your agility improves because although you're not as strong with maximal strength, your strength to weight ratio is better now. So in some cases you'll see better performance. There's another scenario where you can actually get stronger in your lifts during a cut. And that's when you introduce like a new movement. That's a good point. So this is another thing that I like to do. So if not only do I like to transition into more of like a hypertrophy type of training block heading into my cut. I would also like to introduce like something I hadn't done in forever. Like when Justin got us on the windmill kick for a while, I was on a Turkish getup kick for a while. Like what a great time to introduce like a movement you never do when you're also in this caloric deficit because just the skill acquisition over the course of the next three to four weeks, I'll improve on that. And a lot of times I can go up in weight. So I'm gonna start the Turkish getup and I can only do like a 40 pound kettlebell or something. And even though I'm weaker because I'm calorie deprived, I get better at that lift and I actually get to see that go up, which can be very encouraging. Well, isn't it just in general in terms of like the most like advantageous sort of strategy towards this is to shift into something that's a new stimulus to be able to preserve as much muscle and get it activated as much as possible. Yeah, totally. But by the way, beginners will see strength go up on a cut quite often. So what we're talking about are people who have some experience training. When I would get a new client and we're starting to get them to get leaner and we're seeing the scale move down, they would simultaneously always, almost always, especially when they're new, gain strength and even gain muscle. So we'd see seven, eight pound fat loss, three, four pound muscle gain. Now, if you're at the point where you're more advanced and you're already maximizing everything you're doing, you're in a bulk and you're pushing muscle size and you're trying to build more muscle and then you go on a cut and you've been doing this for a while, you're gonna lose some strength. I mean, that's just the bottom line. Well, the newbie claim that you're talking about, that's the evidence of why you should add a movement that you never do. Because you're getting those kind of newbie gains. If you've never done a Turkish getup and you're doing it for the first time, in a sense you are a newbie for that movement and so you can reap some of those like newbie type of benefits of, oh wow, even though I'm in a cut, I'm getting stronger in this lift. And I just, I think it's a psychological game that you're playing. It's not like, there's no like real reason why, oh, you should definitely do it this way or it's the best way. It's like, there's lots of different ways you can do this. I've found in years of cutting and being in this game is that this helps me psychologically. Yeah, I would say, so here would be the tips, right? Choose new stimulus or new exercise. Keep protein intake high. Don't do too aggressive of a cut. The larger the deficit, the more likely you're gonna experience strength loss. Increase, yeah. Supplement with things like creatine. Creatine is calorie free, but will boost your strength. I think those are your best kind of, your best tips. If you do that, then you'll minimize some of that. But again, if you're advanced and you're cutting, especially once you start to get really lean, you have to accept that you're gonna lose some strength. Just accept it because if you're so fixated on, I can't lose any strength, but I'm trying to get lean, like it's gonna be hard to do both. How do you feel about like supplementing, you know, with salt and getting electrolytes, you know, with just in terms of like performance, if you are experiencing a decrease in strength, but you know, now like introducing- That's also when I would run creatine. So I used to actually not run creatine in a bulk, even though there's tremendous benefits to doing that. But again- You would save it for the cut. I would save it for the cut. So it was just giving me that little bit of an edge while I'm lifting. So the drop off of strength wasn't so dramatic. It also would hold water in my muscle belly, so I wouldn't be as flat. So that was the other thing that I used to hate about when you're in a consistent caloric deficit, you never seem to fill the muscle bellies all the way up. So you never- It sure doesn't feel the same. Yeah, you don't get that full, that really full look that you're chasing all the time because you're in a consistent caloric deficit. So I used to love to supplement with creatine at that time, I'd load the water up by creatine, I'd load the salt up, and so I would kind of again create this illusion it was all a cycle. And here's the other thing with the sodium. Let's say your cut consists of dropping your carbs. A lot of people like to drop carbs when they go in a cut because it's easier for them to maybe maintain their lower appetite or whatever. When you do that, your body naturally loses water. You're gonna need more sodium, okay? Because you will feel like crap. A lot of times that keto flu that people go through is actually the fact that they need more sodium or you do a cut, you're avoiding heavily processed foods, you're eating a lot of whole natural foods. Well, now your sodium intake is low, especially if you sweat and you work out a lot. So supplementing with sodium makes a big difference. And I noticed this. I brought that up because I noticed it personally. Yeah, absolutely. Next question is from official Bruce Love. What is your opinion about pills or tablets called carb blockers? Yeah, I picture like this. This would be so awesome so I could eat those cinnamon rolls whenever I want. I picture like this. It just goes right out, yeah, yeah. No dude, you know what they are? So here's what carb blockers are. They're components that help with insulin sensitivity or reduce the glucose spike you may get after eating a carbohydrate meal. Are there potential benefits to that? Yeah, there may be. Are they fat loss? Not really, not really. I mean, I may be down the line because you're maximizing insulin, whatever, but largely a complete waste of money. Yeah, if all things are equal and calories are still staying up, then no. No, I mean, it might help with appetite. And by the way, I'm being super theoretical. Now, based off of what I've seen with these carb blocker or what, and you know what the first one was that I remember? Do you guys remember Chromium Picolinate? Do you remember that supplement? No. This back when we were early trainers. This was like the first like increases insulin sensitivity and you utilize carbs better or whatever. It's just, it's a micronutrient that if you're lacking it and you supplement with it, there's maybe some potential benefits, but that was the first time I heard of that. Then they came out with more. I talked about alpha lipoic acid earlier in this podcast. That has been advertised as a carb blocker. It is not a carb blocker. There is no such thing as a carb blocker. This is a complete, almost complete waste of money supplement category. I've never seen it marketed the way you just described it. Yeah, no. It's all like, you know, I can have pizza and then I can still lose weight. And like, it's just like the most ridiculous claims around these things. No, you know, there's also like, I've seen in the past like fat blockers because you'll eat, you'll take a bunch of fiber supposedly binds to the fat. So if you don't absorb it and you poop it out or whatever. No, total waste. There's nothing that really does this. Doesn't work that way. So, and it's all bullshit marketing. Don't waste your money. Now you may, if you have issues with glucose and you have issues with like blood sugar and insulin, there may be some benefits to some of the stuff. Again, I remember back in the day it was chromium picolinate, vanadol sulfate was another one that they used to talk about all the time. Now you're seeing other, you know, other products being touted as, you know, doing, you know, blocking carbs, which I hate because I think it will definitely give some of the false impression that, oh, I'm gonna eat a bowl of pasta. Let me take my carb blocker pills and now all I have is- Everything's gonna be okay. No. Because I took this pill preventatively. No, it doesn't work that way. Now here's something interesting that you- I imagine for like, I mean, potentially for like diabetics this could have some value, right? Could be, but you know what's funny? People who are diabetics who carefully monitor their blood glucose have to be careful when they supplement with some of the stuff because after a while you've got it dialed in and now what you may actually do is have, start to run into some issues with low blood sugar. So I wouldn't do this without doctor supervision no matter what. Now what I was gonna say with carbohydrates, and I think this is with rice if I'm not mistaken. I believe if you cook rice, put it in the fridge, let it cool and then warm it up again. Some of the starch in there becomes resistant to absorption. So you actually eat less carbohydrates in the same serving of rice. Maybe Doug can- You can look this up, yeah. You can do this with certain foods. I think it's like double-cooked rice or something like that. And you can do this with certain foods. You're gonna have to look this up. I don't remember specifically- Well I remember you bringing it up and I looked it up with the brown rice in terms of having the anti-nutrient properties too. That's different, yeah. But no, there was something about cooking rice, letting it cool so it's in the fridge and then you eat it again and then you utilize less of the starch that's in the rice. Yeah, I don't know how big of an effect it is and to be honest, I might be misquoting what I read. So that's why I'm having Doug try to look it up. But yeah, card blockers, total waste of money. Save your money. Save your money. Look, if you like our information, head over to mindpumpfree.com and check out our guides. We have guides that can help you with almost any fitness or health goal. You can also find us on social media. So Justin is on Instagram at Mind Pump Justin. Adam is on Instagram at Mind Pump Adam and you can find me on Twitter at Mind Pump Sal.