 Good afternoon and welcome to this interactive session. First some preliminaries. I am very happy to note that there are more than 125 remote centers which are participating in this FDP. Frankly, this being the first time effort of running such an FDP and a short notice, I had not expected more than 1500 to 2000 participants from across the country but I am very happy to note that more than 3700 participants have already registered and I am told that several more may be registering by end of the day today which is the last date of registration. Of course by extending the date of registration to 6th what has happened is that the activities of the FDP in the first week had to be necessarily kept on a low key which all of you would have noticed but that is okay because people have to build up the tempo. I will be communicating this heartwarming participation across the country to the chairman AICT and I will be requesting him to personally address these participants during one of the face to face activity days on the three weekends. I also note that four centers have expressed some difficulty in arranging the face to face sessions on the days mentioned. Frankly it would normally not be possible and we would be then requesting the centers to withdraw ordinarily but this being the first FDP of its kind we have decided to talk to them independently and find out what best they can do particularly when the change in dates is being forced due to external circumstances such as I am told that in Chennai there are elections and therefore during the election time these activities may not be possible to be held because the participating college teachers themselves may be away on either duty or only. All of you would have read the topics as I have mentioned in my initial introductory talk and also in a mail that I sent the idea is not to train people in actual details of technology that is not the intention. The intention is conveyed very aptly by the title of the FDP use of ICT for online and blended education. Now this is going to be a new thing for many participating teachers and perhaps a new thing for some of the remote centers as well however there are several remote centers which have what is this noise from where can somebody go and tell them not to drill for next one hour. I am sorry for the disturbance the studio is supposedly sound proof but the window on my left which we have tried to close is open to external compound where some activity is going on. Now to begin with I would like to take a few questions which I see here the first one is from Kelly issue of technology hopefully I am going over to Kelly issue of technology hopefully I am going over to Kelly issue of technology hopefully I am going over to Kelly issue of technology. You see there is no assignment so far given they just have to do wiki activity as a trial as I mentioned during the first week we have deliberately kept the load low so they are just required or expected to become accustomed to both the platforms the wiki the Moodle and the IIT Bombay X of course I know that people who are already familiar will feel that their time is being wasted the objective is to bring every participant in the same level same basic level in so far as understanding these platforms is concerned. You will notice that people have been requested to go through the demo course so that they understand the IIT Bombay X functioning better they also been told to do a engagement with just trying out writing some wiki page incidentally I forgot to introduce my colleague Jay Krishnan who is finishing his PhD with Prasasana Murthy so he is handling the part related to both the pedagogical aspects of both the online learning and blended learning and it is he who has suggested this wiki activity as a trial those who are familiar with wiki and familiar with Moodle also will benefit if they actually write down this trial page incidentally what finally if you have read that assignment which the assignment will actually start from the next week there will be an IIT Bombay page hierarchically organized below it would be one page for each remote center and hierarchically organized below each remote center page will be the pages which the participants will be writing now that will be the actual exercise but that exercise will come in the second weekend subsequently so if participants are a bit apprehensive let them be apprehensive it does not matter if they feel a little apprehensive about thing but important thing is they should become familiar with the backend that is going to be used any other observation thank you right thank you so let me go over to IPS Academy Indore hello hello good afternoon good afternoon sir sir we have registered on three wave Moodle NME ICT and IIT Bombay X so during our workshop we have to log in all three web every time all activity will be on this three web always number one NME ICT front end is only the facilitator for registration once you are registered you are nothing to do with NME ICT okay that was just a registration interface now the two backend platforms that we will be using extensively will be the Moodle platform and the IIT Bombay X platform okay now we have already advised all participants that they should use the same email ID at both places the same login yes secondly wherever we believe it is important we will be giving cross links for example if somebody is in the Moodle and we expect that person to do an activity such as weaving a video in IIT Bombay X apart from saying that please go to IIT Bombay X and view this video will try to put a link there similarly in IIT Bombay X will be duplicating some of the instructions so that if people are visiting IIT Bombay X they will know what is expected to be done on Moodle this will not be done for the entire material I hope you appreciate that but these are the two platform that will be used extensively in this course okay sir thank you very much thank you how many participants have registered at your center 97 sir my god that brings me to another aspect and I hope all the other 120 colleagues are listening to this during the face-to-face interaction the pattern that will follow will be some kind of interaction with the concerned faculty members from here with all the participants but there will be a lot of activity at the remote center controlled by the workshop coordinator there now we will expect the laboratory support there is no special lab like a mechanical engineering lab or electrical engineering lab but computers will be required to be used by them and I hope you have the lab facility because the numbers are very large I was looking at these numbers in fact and I noticed that there are 7 or 8 institutions which have more than 60 participants and there is one institution which has 100 participants registered you also have 90 or something now do you have facilities do you have lab or lab or two labs or whatever where all 90 people can be accommodated at one time yes sir yes sir we have a lab of 120 computers so we will accommodate in that good thank you no problem thank you sir thank you and I suppose you have internet facility available yes sir yes sir yes there is internet facility in every system every computer good thank you we go to Anurag thank you Anurag group of institutions over to you yeah good evening sir good evening sir we have received all have the one query regarding that submission of wiki days we received the mail or incident coordinator and workshop coordinator to submit the institution details myself and our remorse and corner both of you join and submitted the details through the remote center coordinator can I submit myself also no I did not get you yeah the institution details we are already submitted yes so the answer is yes you can also be a participant and you can create your own pitch but as I say so you want to know that while you are submitted the details of the institution as the coordinator whether you can also participate as a participant is that the question yes sir of course it is permitted we have already clarified it because this is frankly not a course where you require extensive expertise on part of workshop coordinator because this is not a subject which is taught regularly use of ICT in education and so on and therefore all that we have stated is two thing number one the workshop coordinator could be any senior faculty member who is well versed with use of ICT and you can also and the second point is we would expect the workshop coordinator for the face-to-face interaction of this workshop more as a facilitator of activities rather than controller of activities so therefore we have absolutely no problem in fact there are many coordinators who are also participants in such cases what we will do is see there is a recognition of the participation which is an independent activity to be done like all other participants there is also a recognition of an institution for conducting this workshop better so there your participation in the role of a coordinator will be judged whereas the course is FDP is concerned your participant as a participant I hope that is okay so one more here actually in our college we have registered total 160 participants in our college all departments we have taken the registration participation but I don't have I don't have 160 what is your 1161 1161 1161 176 my god yeah well I mean so that's a very large number yes sir yes sir but are they all about it because this this might be almost the entire faculty strength of your institution yes sir all in only our college students and other college around three to five people saw registered outside colleges not students this is for teachers I hope no no sir only faculties only do you have do you have lab support for so many people yes sir we have what we have planned our remote and coordinator myself total around 170 participants are registered each and every department we allocated for some faculty coordinator representative so we are organizing like that sir we are coordinating individual department we are arranging coordinator they're all who coordinated to be maintained by myself sir okay so the colleagues who are sitting with you are they likely to be the coordinators of different departments of faculty yes sir they are only at the time of starting of the registration we are arranged in one meeting in the meeting we discuss around about this workshop and registration details they are taking care and they are registered yesterday we conducted one meeting that coordinators also we are informed to do that assignments what are the assignments given offline so that they are doing sir where are you located Ranga Reddy where is it physically located as in Andhra Pradesh or Telangana where this is Telangana sir Telangana okay Hyderabad Hyderabad this is near Hyderabad is it yes sir I think one of these days I would like to visit your institution is the first time 176 participants from any institution or group of institutions coming together maybe as you said some people are from other institutions but majority of them are from your place I'm also happy with the arrangement that you're doing that you'll be distributing them in three or four or five different labs or classrooms and each one will be coordinated by a colleague of yours just ensure yes that this interaction for example that is happening today whatever are the main takeaways from this interaction please communicate to all these coordinators as well because as far as I'm concerned I will treat all five or six of you as coordinators okay thanks definitely I mean equivalent of course you are right in the sense that as far as taking responsibility is concerned you are the responsible person so you will last time I was a workshop coordinator of CP2 sir I know okay okay thank you thank you thank you thank you let me go to Mahendra engineering college this is 1347 hello hello Kannon Malkalya's place over to you Namakal sir good afternoon sir good afternoon sir this is the first time we are conducting this program in our campus okay actually we are having some doubt in the moodle moodle preparation can you just explain with some few words about that moodle how to prepare a content for that so that we will inform to our participants so there is some bit of an introduction given but I'll request JK to explain once again this will be useful for all other colleagues as well across the country yeah so moodle primarily is meant for resource or file submissions and wiki activity so in in the first week the main activity in moodle was a wiki submission where every participant is supposed to create their own individual page and fill it with some introduction about themselves they have to write a teaching learning mission statement they have to tell who they are what domain they teach so consider this as a introduction thing that somebody so when when I meet you I say my name what I'm doing so it is exactly equivalent to this that you are supposed to do in moodle now why wiki wiki supports collaborative editing and the pages are arranged in a hierarchical structure so at the top you have a start page which is completely maintained by the team at IIT Bombay so we have put up clear instructions that no person is supposed to edit that page except the people at IIT Bombay though we are seeing many people so we have so people are not familiar with it and they start editing this page this is not what you should do so in the instruction in the instructions we have also provided a PDF which clearly states what you are supposed to do in each page so in the main start page we clearly identify what the purpose of wiki is and what are the type of pages inside the wiki please understand that this structured exercise will actually begin from the next week what has been done in the first week is just to make people familiar with wiki pages they have been asked to edit a page so there is no structure which is mandated or maintained during the first week and that is why you will find people confusing what they should edit etc etc I thought we were very clear that they are expected to create a page and fill it up for themselves that is the introduction page they are supposed to write but because Moodle permits editing of any page by anybody whenever I have a collaborative forum there are some people who are tempted to go and edit somebody SS page or write something there now that must not happen now this discipline we will try to maintain through instruction and this is what you will have to emphatically state when people come for the first interaction which we have kept at the end of two weeks so at the end of next week when they will be coming for face-to-face interaction this will be one aspect that you will have to emphatically state that while it is a collaborative forum primarily you are expected to enter details about your own self in one page and that also in a hierarchical fact so we will give those instructions more clearly and repeat them but this is the kind of assistance people will require because people who are never used this kind of forum they sometimes get confused secondly let me also tell you another purpose you and I may be quite familiar with filling up forms on the web and so on but unfortunately there are teacher colleagues amongst us who have never done an interactive activity on a computer related to education so this is also an opportunity for them I can always write about myself on a piece of paper I can always create a word document or some such document which gives exactly the same detail but I may never have filled up a wiki page interactively on the machine so forget the wiki page any interactive page form so this is an initiation and therefore do not worry if some of our colleagues make some mistakes in the first week however our ambition will be to indicate how they should do it correctly and we will get it done subsequently with your help when they come for face-to-face interaction I hope this is all right thanks for your kind information sir and then one more doubt we are having sir yes for the face-to-face interaction whether any system was required for the participants very much yes very much so I in fact gave that observe I made that observation while answering the previous question that the purpose of the face-to-face interaction is to fold number one they will be doing some group activity primarily in the first week for example the group activity connected with think-pair share and such activities and a flip classroom so the participants will be sitting in a class and the flip classroom will be directed throughout the week there will be more details present but they may have to do something using Moodle or using IIT Bombay X while they are in your place which means that a lab will have to be arranged now if you have very large number of people as I asked some other colleagues coordinators from other colleges they have apparently one group has lab of 120 people so they can accommodate all participants the other college does not have a single lab but they are going to coordinate between three or four different lab and in each lab they will have a faculty colleague who will be working as a sort of second-in-command coordinator for that particular group of people with the overall coordination with done being done by one person you can adapt any one of these strategies in the worst case if you do not have two or three labs or if you do not have adequate number of computers then we do not know how to handle the situation for this purpose for the purpose of this FDP we might consider you giving one machine to two people to share but frankly that is not the best solution the best solution is that the participants should have a system to themselves whenever they are doing interactive work on using a computer but measure this will be required for some part of the time not all so for example two days of interaction that we have planned on say 14 15th of May there will be roughly two hours of interaction which will require use of computers in front of them so for two hours or two and a half hours you will have to arrange for lab do you have enough say two or three labs where you can accommodate these 67 or 70 people actually our strength registered participant is 64 we are having a single lab which is having six does okay that is good enough I think and you have internet connectivity I hope that every system is having an internet connectivity that is not the issue for us very good thank you any other question thank you thank you next I am going over to Ram Meghi Institute of 1193 yes sir over to you hello hello yes good afternoon sir good afternoon we are having this classroom but in the classroom there is no facility of lab we cannot arrange your computers here labs are in front of the classroom that is perfectly fine you don't have to have computers in the classroom in fact we expect the normal classroom to be available for other discussion sessions or for viewing interactive sessions from the faculty the labs as JK explained are required only for two hours a day and we will have a specific period and what we will do is we will arrange it just after the tea break or some such thing so that people will have enough time to move from the classroom to the lab is that okay okay sir we have 69 participants registered oh okay I would like to ask you a question out of these 69 participants what is approximately the number from your own institution and what are the number of outsiders outsiders are three three members are there outsiders okay so majority of the people are from your own institution yes sir which is perfectly fine other people are easy yeah no no I will tell you the question that I have it is it is not I am not concerned with there's so many people but are you very sure that all the large number of participants from your own college will be serious about this course and will participate actively yes sir yes sir they are really serious other are busy in university examinations they were also interested oh I see but due to examinations they could not register fair enough is not a problem so we look forward to your wider participation thank you remote center number 1006 NIT Trichy oh over to you NIT Trichy and welcome good evening sir good evening my third Dr Kannabiran workshop coordinator and sir we have a couple of points the first one is about the the elections that are happening in Tamil Nadu and so we we don't we don't require any alternate arrangements but we are only expecting that maybe the attendance will be you know poor on the on that weekend that is 13 14 I will say 13 14 or 14 15 sorry 14 sorry 14 15 yeah in fact there are two centers in Chennai who have actually requested for a change of date which appears very difficult at this stage we are considering what is to be done and I will come up with some answer I thought the elections in that phase were only in Chennai but I didn't know Trichy also has elections around the same time yeah yeah it is state of Tamil Nadu on a single day on 15 so on 17th are the elections isn't it I don't know when are the elections sir 16 oh 16 oh I see but why do you think 14 15 the attendance will be thinner because will they have election duty or something we don't have the election to the issue but generally people avoid traveling because a lot of you know campaigning and all that's happening people avoid traveling those days oh I see yeah sir many of these people are traveling our college is located about 20 kilometers away from the city and they need to travel I mean I'm I'm maybe 15 to 60 percent of the people are Latin okay he said dilemma because the two centers in Chennai have clearly stated that they would prefer some alternate days I'll tell you our problem our problem is that the faculty colleagues Sanna Murthy and JK are going to be personally present on 14 15 so what we were thinking tentatively was as followed as you know all these interactions are recorded so we would record their own observations and we'll record question answers that are asked and these recorded material will make it available for downloading by rendering it very quickly now one suggestion is that immediately following the elections the 16th are the elections so if it is okay with you then we could plan 17th 18th or 18 19th as two days of interaction where we could request participants to hold the interactive session on those two days but you will have to use the prerecorded material that has been given I will request either Sanna Murthy or JK if possible to be available for some time to do a to do any hands-on question answering if possible I may also be present for some time now since there are a large number of such requests I did not realize that I thought there were only four centers but it appears that most centers in Tamil Nadu and Kerala may have this problem Kerala also have the same election I see so what do you suggest one possibility is we stick to these dates and the participants who are unable to come on 14 15 for whatever reason they should do these exercises on their own by viewing the recorded version of interaction on 14 15 which they can do on 17 18 themselves and if they need any clarification with prior appointment on a single day for a few hours they could come to you and clarify some of the things which they want how do you like the idea it is perfectly all right sir whoever is able to attend 14 15 will attend five whoever misses use this recorded material right go through it or any questions they will come back to the coordinator and get it done good the other point is there was one participant who's presently in Dubai and which he is not having her ID but he has sent her passport I think as a ID but she has sent her letter from the college nominating her permitting for the workshop I'm not sure want to permit that lady also I see but that person will not be able to come for any interaction at all over the 17 she will be back so what is the problem I did not understand if coming back we need the ID card and the permission letter to register oh Mahendra is there not having an issue tiny card now I see the person does not have issued ID card and the permission later the person is coming back all right can you tell me the name of the person Dr. Hemalatha Dr. Hemalatha so I am requesting my colleague the manager from workshop team Mr. Mahendra Parmar to take note of this and certify I will clear the registration of Dr. Hemalatha as a special case this can be uploaded later thank you so much for this input will not let her miss yeah one more point is provision to get a group among our participants so that we can communicate ourselves no come again is there a provision in the system to form a group of all the 27 participants of our yeah in fact there will be multiple groups formed during the process and will be using Moodle extensively so there will be a group formed one group which will be all participants from your remote center that will be one group okay so that that group can communicate with each other correct correct so that you can write to that group and of course you will be made a member of that group and you can communicate with them second there could be groups which are formed for the purpose of team assignments which they will be doing later yeah right yeah so one one second who is taking the responsibility of forming groups per remote center so far we have not done that sorry I didn't get your question sir basically there are 27 participants we wanted a group so that we can communicate about schedules or any informal discussion that's what we want a provision to form a group if it is there we are okay no they cannot do that because they do not have teacher access they cannot form groups so they have a domain this grouping which is there survey that is happening in the next in the coming oh I said okay I was not aware of this Jack Christian tells me why why don't you explain so yes you can form internal groups within your college that is one aspect I think a previous college had already mentioned that they have mini groups and they have group coordinators another aspect of it is that since there are multiple domains there will be a domain based grouping for many of the activities since activity review etc requires some amount of domain expertise like mechanical engineering electrical and allied and all those things a survey question will be put up in model in the coming week people have to select their domain and they will be automatically put into that group within model itself so there is a domain based grouping in the model and all the activities will happen but you are answering a different question all together what he wants to do the very simple thing is there an automatic formation of a group of all faculty participants who belong to one remote sense yes it is it is already there in the model itself by default all of you are part of one group and yeah but it is not visible to them is it visible to them there a provision now the message for example has that provisioned in exercise okay what JK tells me is that this grouping has already been done it is an implicit grouping so whenever people enroll for the fdp and they select a remote center and when they are admitted they automatically belong to a group of that remote center now only thing is the remote center coordinators are not familiar with this fact okay so what I will do is give us this weekend we will be preparing a special email to all the coordinators saying that you actually are part of the group of all participants of that particular remote center and this is the mechanism by which you can communicate only with your group members good enough thank you very much for this was in a very important observation that you made it it will help everybody thank you so much I forgot your name Anna Biran sir Anna Biran thank you so much yeah I will once again repeat the discussion that we had on the dates and this is therefore an answer to all remote centers we will not change the dates of interaction the dates of interaction shall remain what they are there could be some centers where as NIT Trichy coordinator said some people may not be able to come there could be some centers where nobody may come however the dates of interaction are firm and they will remain as they are what we will do instead is that we will record the entire interaction that happens between IIT Bombay and all remote centers and this recording will be quickly rendered and made available within 48 hours on let us say IIT Bombay X as videos or whatever it is and we will intimate all participants of these remote centers where they are not able to conduct in fact we will send a general circular now those participants who are unable to attend the face-to-face interaction on those dates are expected to go through that interaction and do the activities on their own there will be one major problem that some of the activities are expected to be done in groups and therefore the only way it is possible is that these participants who miss the face-to-face interaction form their own groups say four people five people eight people whatever whatever try to identify where they are from etc form their own groups and spend one two three hours whatever is required to do that group activity together they will have to do it on their own by looking at the videos of these interactions and such thing that happen there further as our friend suggested they should contact the workshop coordinator for any individual clarification or group clarification by seeking a date and each workshop coordinator is requested that for such people who unfortunately have to miss these days for whatever valid reason they will allocate a particular day say a few hours where they will be available for explaining things to them on what happened in the face-to-face interaction is that is that okay is this arrangement all right no you are not going to tell the participants that we should at of now we will tell them there are everybody should attend so we will not give the option to them anyway right good point I think you are a good teacher you can anticipate how students will react so thank you for making that suggestion we will not make any announcement so this is for the benefit of all coordinators who are attending this workshop as this FDP as far as the FDP is concerned the dates are sacrosanct we will see if some people miss those dates then what is to be done we will take a call roughly on the lines that we have discussed but we will not announce it upfront so as of now the interaction days are exactly as they have been announced they will remain safe we will know how many people are not able to attend etc on that day and then we will issue appropriate instructions for any compensation if possible but he is very right if I preannounce it probably a large number of people will even take a holiday although there is no election or anything there we will not do that thank you we now go to Junagad noble group issued of engineering yeah good evening sir good evening sir this is Mohit workshop coordinator just I would like to take one question regarding the participant yes we are registering 42 participants okay and that participant 9 to 10 participants are from outside of our institute so there is one question except the workshop date they can do their activity at on place or they have to come here no they do not have to come here in fact the whole idea of converting the fdp into primarily an online kind of activity for a large percentage of work is to permit all our individual teacher colleagues to work from wherever they want to work as a matter of fact only group activity that will happen will be during the days is planned during the days of face to face interaction on the 3 weekend this applies to even teachers from your own institution they can also work at their own pace at their own choice of course they might find it convenient to come to the office and do the work because they will probably get access to a good system good internet connection etc etc but frankly if I have to view some video lecture at my home I can do so I will be issuing a mail again an instruction where I will be requesting all participants to maintain a diary you see one problem is Indians do not traditionally write diary I do not expect them to write personal diaries but I expect them to write professional diaries for this fdp whatever activity they are this they will be required to maintain in this soft copy form and they will have to submit this diary this diary will not be visible to others but they will have to submit it in an assignment as an assignment which we will be able to scrutinize now I might say for example in my diary that I viewed this session which the Christian had recorded let us say on Sunday night from 11 o'clock to 11 30 that is perfectly fine what they may not know is that we have a big data analytics group which captures all the event logs on IIT Bombay X platform so we will be able to validate a very large number of such diary entries whether they are accurate or not so we will expect people to write these diaries and this way we will be able to know at the end what is the average time that people had to spend actually for successfully completing this sorry for extending the answer but again to come back to your yeah to come back to your specific question there is absolutely no need for participants either from outside your college or even from your own college to physically come to your college during the week to do these activities if they do want to come and work and if you can provide them facilities well and good because with all said and done group of three or four faculty members working together interacting discussing always enhances the knowledge beyond what an individual can do but that is their choice answer is there any other software requirement in laboratory session no absolutely nothing we will be using Moodle and IIT Bombay X for this particular interactive sessions that we are planning we will be exposing the participants to variety of other pieces of software for which we will give them instructions we will use only open source software but if the teachers are interested and if some of the assignments they want to do involves that software they can download it install it and use it that will be part of the activity the institution does not have to provide for anything special okay thank you very much sir that is it from all side thank you let me go over to D. Y. Patil good evening sir good evening good evening jai krishnan please go ahead sir to share with you we at our institute we always are a part of this number of additional things for teaching and learning purpose I think once jai krishnan was at our institute it was some four year back if I if I'm not wrong he had been one of the resource person for one of our such workshop and we stress on to share with you few of the earlier workshops which we had under this NME ICT that is pedagogy technical communication we do have a good number of participants also not from only our institute but our adjacent colleges in this vicinity also sir and to share with that we just not close this with the end of the workshop but we keep a track of the participants obviously at our institute and to share with us this has helped us to gain a good name for our institute in this field of teaching learning sir this is long back we always take a feedback it's under monthly we do have learners forum where in teachers come together and share to say of you almost seven or eight teachers practice this week is because it was a part in pedagogy workshop so that is yes we are going on with it and that is how really we feel that it's very helpful to have such workshops well thank you so much and I'm delighted to hear that you have affiliated activities going on at particularly tracking what the other teachers do after the workshop is an important thing there is an element in this fdp which is about building and nurturing collaborative community I'll be very happy if you could write down a small note on how you have tried to build and nurture this small community I'll be very happy to put it up as a part of this course but either for other centers and other colleges to actually emulate it's a very good example yes sure sir there are two more things I would just like to highlight I don't know might be this is what I have thought and as a suggestion sir I really feel practicing with this blend of interactions for learning learning somewhere although we do have experience that we keep a track of teachers but to keep it I really feel might be since our this workshop is going to take place till august our session will start somewhere in June July I expect that you should ask each participant to say that how this reaches to the students finally to the class and there should be some steps to be prepared by each participant that will be the real-time implementation by the teacher which will surely help the teacher to have a practical view of it in its own sessions later on it's a very good point and it has come up for internal discussion many times so let me tell you the larger vision the larger vision is that the AICT chairman professor Sahasrabudde wants me to conduct this kind of fdp for all five lakh teachers of all college colleges in the country in the next three years now that's a humongous task he would like every teacher from every professional institution to be aware of how to most effectively use technology and whatever you are saying both about pedagogy and about actually using it in the classroom or vital ingredients of implementing this now this is the first of the fdps that we are conducting we wanted to conduct it as soon as possible and the only time available was summer months then practically the colleges can participate as remote centers and people can spend some time but you are correct in real life it is much better if some aspects of this fdp are actually implemented when the teachers are actually teaching now you will notice that there is a team activity here as a part of this fdp which people have to undertake in teams and submit that team assignment within four weeks of completion of the phase two phase of the of the online interaction so that means in the month of july and part of the month of august that is when they will be submitting this assignment and one suggestion that we will be making to the participating teachers is that if they could decide on a team activity which involves them to design a portion of some material or some topic which they can actually experiment as a flip classroom in their own college with their own students in the subject that they teach that is the reason why we have chosen to make domain specific teams so that those teachers can come together on a specific domain or a course now it may not work in all cases because there may be teachers belong to same domain but teaching different courses in their places the point being made is that even if one of the team members says okay I will experiment in my college in Amravati let us say then the other three team members can actually go there on that day of interaction to that Amravati college and see how the flip classroom works when that particular faculty member engages these are the activities that we have in mind going forward then we will refine this FDP further and we will run it for larger number of people we will require a much larger number of associate faculty member IIT Bombay alone cannot run it so you will notice that in my announcement itself I have stated that we will not only be honoring 200 top performing teachers for which we have yet to define the exact criteria etc but we will be also be requesting them whether they are interested in participating in future FDPs as associate faculty and obviously who are the people who are most appropriate for being associate faculty well these will be the people who either in their team assignment or independently have actually used part of this pedagogy in their own classroom and they are willing to guide and assist other colleagues in doing exactly the same thing. So I have that in mind this is the first of the workshop but thank you for this suggestion this we already had factored in so the team assignments when they will be explained we will be doing that so you mentioned two important thing one is the possibility of the team assignments of this FDP itself being part practicing with the students the second is following up with the teachers after the workshop in terms of building a small community and nurturing that community with some discussion that is both of these are explicit parts of this FDP so thank you so much for your observation. Sir yes thank you sir and I would really like to associate with this if I could. Good good I will keep that in mind Mahendra note her credentials she is already hired for the next workshop. Thank you sir. Thank you so University BDT College of Engineering where is this? Good evening sir. Good evening is it Dhawan Gheri? Yeah yeah Dhawan Gheri sir. How are you? Fine sir sir is it necessary to provide computers or PCs in face-to-face interaction during face-to-face interaction? Not for the entire day as I explained to earlier questions this will have to be provided. Yeah we have labs in next hour room we have lab but in this set of room we do not have. No no no let me clarify again please do not change your classroom environment classrooms are classrooms and they will be used for interactive sessions and even for group work such as thing pair share activities etc. But during the two days of face-to-face interaction there will be one or two hours when the participants will be required to access the computers for which they will move to the lab. So as long as you have a lab that is good enough yeah. We also have facilities. Right. Okay sir thank you sir. Thank you. Yeshwantrao Chaman College of Engineering over to you 1155 yeah hello over to you you have any question please raise. Hello hello we can hear you please go ahead. Yes good afternoon sir. Sir I would like to know is there any specific software or hardware required during the face-to-face interaction? No absolutely not as long as you have PCs connected to internet and you have browsers working that is all will be required. As I mentioned in answer to some other question earlier if there are participants who wish to experiment with some software they will be expected to download install it on their own machines and experiment with that. Now such a software for example for preparing spoken tutorials when we discuss spoken tutorials or for experimenting with Moodle after all Moodle is open source and Moodle is accessible from the net so people can practice whatever they need to do and use our Moodle. But suppose some teachers wish to download Moodle install it and start using it as a part of the activity they are most welcome to do that but at the remote center you are not required to provide any specific additional facility that is not required. Sir one more thing how the daily should be evaluated at the remote center or at the IIT Bombay? The submission of the assignment how it is graded? Grading policy so you will notice that grading policy has not been announced yet we are still figuring that out. First of all when you have 4000 participants it is not possible for any small group at IIT Bombay or anywhere else to evaluate and do the proper assessment of all submissions particularly the submissions are in the when the submissions are in the form of open educational resources which could be fairly large. We propose to use peer assessment as one of the important aspects of the assessment the peer assessment process itself will be first explained properly to people and will be implementing that. As far as the remote centers are concerned we would expect some kind of qualitative judgment on the assignments that have been submitted by the teams when they do a final submission. We will be doing the assessment of the team assignments later ourselves but we would expect some support from the remote center and it will be a very simple qualitative assessment such as whether like you should be able to cursorily look at a team assignment submitted by a team of people working in your remote center and should be able to classify it as A, B and C. So, C which is not acceptable B which is ok and A which is excellent. So, you do not have to give detailed marks 73 and half out of 100 or some such thing that is not expected we would also not be indulging in that but we would like to identify teams which do some extraordinary work or effort and we would like to identify teams which do less than acceptable work because the certificate will be dependent on this. So, that is the only direct assistance that we would expect from the remote centers as far as this FDP is concerned. Of course, if the remote center so wishes to further extend the activities as the lady was from Dr. D. Y. Patil was saying we will be towards the end of this FDP we will be setting up a mechanism for building and nurturing collaborative community and one suggestion which I will be making towards the end of the course is that those 30, 40, 50, 60 participants from your remote center who has spent three weekends together could form the kernel of the first collaborative community centered around your remote center itself. Now, it is up to them and you together to decide how to take this small collaborative community further for future interaction if any but that is not part of the FDP that will be just a suggestion that we will be making is that ok that delay. Central University of Rajasthan. Hello. Yeah, hello. Good evening sir. Good evening. Sir, we are from Central University of Rajasthan. Yes, yes. Welcome. This is our fourth workshop sir. Previously we have conducted three workshops. I see. Sir, we are in this workshop now when compared to last workshops this is very participants are feeling it is too lengthy sir one and three phases are there. If it would be two weeks then it would be fine for the participants. Yes. This is our remark. No that is correct but AICT wanted us to run a four week FDP and as you will notice from our what should I say the material that we have put up in the announcement we do not expect a teacher working alone at his or her home or office during the week to spend more than six to eight hours per week on this FDP and therefore we had to necessarily convert one working day into one physical week or duration week and that is why you will notice that if we have ten we have a total requirement of conducting a four week FDP out of which we have two weeks of work which is to be done online that translates into ten working days which means ten weeks. There has to be one week of face to face interaction which we have translated into three weekends and you will notice that we have not put those at the end of ten weeks but we have put them interspersed with these ten weeks itself so that during the weeks of those interaction people will also have to do some online activity and come face to face. Finally when they have to do a teamwork we are saying four weeks are allocated the actual work required is four days equivalent work now it is perfectly possible for a team at your end when the team is formed and we will expect team formation to start from the first interaction itself we would expect teams to be frozen at the end of second interaction nothing prevents them from taking up the assignment and when they meet for the third interaction with you those small teams sit together discuss exactly what they wish to do and let us say a particular team of four teachers may decide that this interaction is ending on Saturday and Sunday last interaction after that let us meet for four days in my college or your college and finish of the entire engagement and assignment they are most welcome to submit the team assignment much earlier they do not have to wait for end of the four week but technically the duration of the FDP has to match with the minimum number of hours that the participants must spend I hope you will agree with that. So, we will be clarifying this possibility to participants as we proceed ahead in the course. Thank you. We have Vishwakarma Institute of there is no video from Vishwakarma. So, we will go to Dronacharya College of Engineering. Yes, over to Dronacharya. Hello. Hello. Good evening sir. Good evening. Good evening sir. Good evening. You mean? Yeah, yeah I can hear you please go ahead. Okay. So, at Dronacharya College of Engineering Greater Noda we have around 30 participants for this workshop and I am I am sure that the use of ICT in education for online and blended learning will be very helpful to my participants of engineering as well as from other departments. I have one question like all all the submission will be through Moodal only Nasa. Yes and no the assignments requiring large rights to be submitted they will be submitted on Moodal but the quizzes the online multiple choice quizzes which people have participants have to attempt at their own pace at their own time before the deadline those will be conducted on IIT Bombay X. So, that IIT Bombay X. So, that multiple choice quizzes will be conducted. The assignments. Yeah. Please go ahead. So, the assignment would be the assignment would be individual or all would be the group activity. It is actually a mix of both. Okay. Okay. Okay sir. Yeah. Thank you. All right. Thank you. RVRJ College of Engineering. This is Chobhish Pargana Resh Bengal. Over to you. Chandrasekhar remote center coordinator. Sir, I am happy to inform that 67 students got registered for this course. And participants sorry 67 participants registered for this course. Out of 67, 22 from outside institutions and part 5 from our institution. And we had restriction from various departments of our college. We have taken only the 5 maximum participants from each department. And one more thing I would like to highlight that I do not know that whether this information can be shared with you or not. We are not collecting the 1000 rupees of fee from the part spend, sir, because we have taken the permission from our management. They have immediately accepted that we don't need to collect the 1000 rupees from the participants. And without collecting an amount, we provide all the facilities to the participants know that lunch, accommodation and snacks, whatever it whatever required. So, just I wanted to give this information to you, sir. No, it is. Regarding that, participants, tell me sir. Yeah, please go ahead. I will make an observation later, but it's a good thing that you are doing. In 22 participants are coming from our station, sir, because they have to travel three times for all the three spells of face-to-face and try to sessions. And they can use that money for their travel purpose. That is the intention behind that. And moreover, institution is a non-profit based institution, sir. Always we are, I mean, our management of the people are kind enough to do maximum extent of service, sir. And the rest of the things are regarding that participants' advantage point of view. And you have given some deadline for the first task that is on 8th of this month. And most of the participants are new for this particular kind of courses, sir, even though it is a faculty development program. And when they attend face-to-face interaction and protein routine, we can create more awareness for them in order to submit the assignments and how to, you know, give the solutions for all our exercises. And for the first time, I request you that instead of deadline on 8th, it is possible, please keep the deadline on second week. That is on 15th, sir, only for the first time. That is my request, sir, if possible. Good point that you made. Let me respond to both observations that you have made. First of all, my compliments to your college, which is willing to bear the expenses for conducting the face-to-face sessions. I hope all remote centers and all institutions come forward to do that, because that will save money from the teacher. But I would mention two things in this context, not be little in what you have done, what your colleges have done is excellent, and I appreciate that. But let us understand one thing. In this world, there is no free lunch. There is a cost for doing everything. Out of enthusiasm and good will, I will be willing to do a good deed like this once, maybe twice, maybe three times. But suppose I expect your college to conduct such face-to-face sessions, on every weekend for 50 people, then it may not be possible for the college to continue to provide the resources which are required. Please understand that not only the enthusiastic faculty members like you, but technical staff will have to be present there to arrange the ABU interaction. There will have to be an attendant who will have to open the room and close the room in the evening. Now, these are people who are just doing their duties and without some recognition, some payment of honorarium, why would these people continue to work day in and day out continuously? That is the reason why I had built a provision of some payment of honorarium. It is notional. We are not paying salaries or anything to people. So, the sustenance on the long term becomes difficult. And as I mentioned to other coordinators question earlier, we proposed to conduct this FDP for all five lakh teachers to be benefited in the country who teach in professional colleges. Not just engineering colleges, but architecture, pharmacy, management, all of these. And eventually the ministry wants to consider whether similar training programs can be arranged for teachers of 36000 other colleges and then finally teachers of all high schools because the use of ICT is going to help us to improve our productivity. Therefore, there has to be some formal mechanism. Second point I will make is when we say teachers should not have to pay, I appreciate that point. But I will go one step further. Suppose I am a teacher in one college and I am attending this FDP, doesn't my college also benefit from the learning that I do? When I teach in my own college, don't my students benefit? Shouldn't my college then support my participation in this FDP? In fact, by paying the remote center 1000 rupees or reimbursing that expenditure plus reimbursing that travel expenditure, should that not be done by the college? Because the college is likely to benefit from my services in future year. So, this is another thought I would like to put forward. I will be addressing the principals and the chairman of various engineering colleges through a communication later after the completion of this FDP. I mentioned this in the OSHA conference recently that shouldn't our colleges consider it a part of incentivization of their faculty by actually sponsoring them and meeting these small expenses to participate in such things. So, as I said what you are doing is extremely good. My compliments to you and your institution and since this is the first FDP of its kind, I really appreciate that you are not putting a charge to the participating teachers thereby encouraging them to come forward with more freedom. One more doubt sir regarding the participants, I mean earlier we have conducted one FDP on introduction to structural engineering, civil engineering. For civil engineering faculty members and there we have formed one team like teaching assistants assisted, give assistance for the workshop coordinator and there is an AV coordinator, he is giving service for now also that AV coordinator. And of course, teaching assistants are required in order to evaluate the assignments that will be submitted by the participants. This time also can we form a group? Otherwise assignment will be evaluated by IIT Bombay or by the workshop coordinator sir. No, the assignments will be assessed either through peer review process or there will be multiple choice questions which will be assessed automatically. So, there is assessment that is required to be done at the remote center level. Only for the team assignments, only for the team assignments which are submitted by the teams attending at your remote center, we would expect a very quick qualitative assessment of all the team submissions only dividing them into three categories A, B and C. So, no detail assessment is required besides the submission will be in their own respective domain. So, you cannot find a teaching assistant who can assess let us say an open educational resource submitted in civil engineering and also an open educational resource submitted in communication technology. It will not be possible because the teachers will be attending will be from disparate domain. That is why we do not see any need for teaching assistants, but we will be forming sectoral communities starting with this FDP which will expand in numbers over the coming months and years and we will be using resources from these sectoral communities to do assessment of team submissions in future FDP. I have yet to answer the first question that you asked the submission date. First of all the submission date will not be aired although that is what we had announced. Jai Krishnan and I have discussed this and we will be keeping the submission date as 10th afternoon so that they have Monday and Tuesday so that they are not at the remote center, but they can consult their colleague teachers in the college if they have any problem. Second, the assignment for the first way is not a graded quiz or anything. These are all entry level surveys which collect information about the participants and their thoughts and the entry level surveys must be completed at the entry point. There is no point in their writing answers to it after they have participated for two weeks in the course. So, we will change the submission date from 8th May to 10th May, but we will insist that people submit these are all online surveys and they can access model from wherever they want and they can finish that. The last point from my side and during earlier FTP there are four sessions per a day from 9 o'clock to 5 o'clock and each session will be handled by an expert from IIT Bombay and the session was conducted in this manner like there will be some live session for half an hour or 45 minutes water it may be that is followed by interaction with the part spend snow. Can we expect that the future sessions also in the same way all the six days? Not necessarily all the six days. In fact, there will be major activities in the remote center coordinated entirely by you. The think-pair-share activity will have to be done by all participants for example in your remote center entirely coordinated by you. The faculty team will tell you what exactly is the activity to be done, how it is to be conducted but it has to be conducted locally and that will typically be the afternoon session which will be in a classroom also it might be required that the participants should assemble in a lab where they have computers such as you have them here for about two hours when they will be working on the computer. Thank you very much for answering my doubts and our coordinator has one more question with him right please. Yes sure. Good afternoon sir. I am Dr. Srinagesh workshop coordinator for this program. Obviously, you have told that role of workshop coordinator is not controlled but facilitator. Can you quickly tell in two or three points what are the roles of the facilitator and workshop for . So, first of all the workshop coordinator has to go through the material that needs to be discussed during the face to face session ahead of time. So, what we will be doing is either through a separate mail we will be sending an instruction to all workshop coordinators which will be copied to RC coordinators also saying how you should prepare for conducting the face to face session in your remote center. Secondly, all participants will also be informed ahead of time what exactly they are expected to do when they come for face to face session and those activities will have to be done. Now, when you do those activities they are largely self driven activities or group driven activities. All that you have to ensure is that appropriate groups are formed that people in a group sit close to each other that they complete their work. Sometimes what happens is in that thing pair share method that time that is taken by a particular group may be slightly longer than other time. Now, simple things like doing time management you know requesting group . So, that is the role of a facilitator you are like a senior colleague in that group which is trying to ensure that things are conducted exactly in the manner in which they are expected to be conducted that is all. Thank you very much sir.