 Yeah, so how do you do this? So I always talk about how if you're going to put the word Islam before anything So in this case Islamic Psychology then it has to be something that's actually starts with and is grounded in Islam there's a lot of discussions on you know You know, let's kind of throw in a little bit of hadith here and a little bit of Quran here and make mental health Kind of Muslim and there is a field actually called Muslim mental health Which is for Muslim people right and kind of their mental health But it's not the same as Islamic psychology What Islamic psychology means is that that the foundation of the actual field starts with Islam and then a psychology is Derived or built upon it from Islam itself if that makes sense So how does one of go around go about doing this? It does require in effect my Every week in Maristan I teach the therapist I did go through the book the book that we Were able to finish and complete is called introducing Islamic concepts in Clinical mental health care and what that's about is basically talking about exactly what I mean Here are the foundations of Islam and how do you integrate them into clinical care? So in that training that we're doing it identifies and says how do you become an Islamic psychologist? And it has it gives you three main things It says first You have to be able to ground yourself in Islam, which means a lifelong journey of Islamic learning None of us nobody here nobody on this panel Hamdallah and none of you either inshallah start studying Islam and say okay now. I'm done The minute you say you're done is actually the minute you know everything is lost Subhanallah, you've got to keep going and keep going in your studies Even if it's adding little by little so it's a commitment what to a lifelong journey of Islamic learning Secondly in this country in America, you cannot become a psychologist a therapist a psychiatrist a Counselor of any sort unless you are certified and credentialed by an actual program So that's either a master's degree or a PhD degree or in the case of a psychiatrist and MD a medical degree And you need those certifications to be able to practice in this country So and Hamdallah, I hope We're having less people going around the community saying I can be a counselor I can counsel you and Hamdallah They can give you an assiha They can give you religious counseling or maybe some coaching But they're not actual therapists or clinicians unless they've actually done their degrees certifications licensing and exams Right there they are board exams and their boards that govern this practice for ethical behavior and correct practice and Thirdly the place in which you're neither a share nor are you you're not a share Here and you're not a complete secular site therapist or psychologist is that middle space of how do you bring Islamic to the story? And that's actually learning the ways So it's basically the training that I was talking about we call it the traditionally integrated Islamic psychotherapy or TIIP model for those interested Or taking some sort of diploma or course in Islamic psychology so that you can bridge your Western secular psychology training And bridge that to the Islamic training and actually learn the concepts There's three steps of how you become an Islamic psychologist