 What I have here in the space, it's this figure of the octagon which are two frames suspended on the roof and they are made of aluminium and the frames have holes and the ropes go through the holes and create this kind of transparent walls. And so I decided to make them really fitting in the roof, meaning that they have kind of the same size of the frames existing in the roof, they have the same colour, so they kind of merge and it seems like these frames were already existing. But what I wanted to do here was also to kind of really play with the ropes that are suspended and pushed through the frames, so meaning that I can decide to pull some ropes out of the frame, the outside frame and put it inside the inside frame. So kind of creating screens, which is things I've used in my previous works, this idea that you can see through and it's always about the relation that you establish with something that is in front of you and next to it and this pairing of or relations between three elements, two elements. First I wanted the spectator to be curious and I think curiosity is the approach to have. Of course everybody has their own way of looking at things, which is fantastic according to their experience, things they have seen before but also people that do not necessarily go and see exhibition children. I always think also of the height of the children when they do exhibitions because I think they have their very specific way of engaging with work and there are things on the floor. The floors also become an artwork. In this case I've done a linoleum floor and the motive that we see here is taken by a painting by an artist called Ije Clark and she was a Brazilian artist, very important. And I've always played with this idea also of painting become a floor or chair become a screen, so there's always this idea of elements that rotate in space and room and become something else.