 See of course we're that's not that I don't like this. Oh, were you guys running late today? I can't imagine why my podcast season two episode 51. It's right. We finally crossed the big 50 spot On our live version here. Hey, we already had some gifted memberships coming in like crazy So shout out to uh, but not this 712 who gets in five and Aaron Rass don't worry You guys know I got your shots for that and by the way, I apparently owe a shot for last week's podcast So we're starting off tonight with three hardcore shots for me tonight So uh, we're gonna go straight to the goldie and hit a couple of yags on top It's gonna be uh, it's gonna be a fun and interesting night. I can already tell uh, that being said Well, whatever it's not healer. That's what you gotta worry about. Oh, I know we all got that. Uh, anyways Uh Well, we uh have a panel here. We have a new guest first time ever. We got josey. Whoa. How's it going? So good. How are you guys? Yeah So much better now that he has made it. I was very nervous. Ask me in like a half hour. Yeah, no Nice to meet you josey. I was I think I was in the wrong room. I was here Like 30 minutes ago You got to stop with that keeping it clean for everything. Come on now. I'm keep I'm I like to keep it clean Yeah, okay. I like Are you still like talking to that girl the same one from last week? Thanks, dude She went new check every week. That's her every day. I don't know what's going on You do realize that all of this is public record, right? Like wow. I'm never telling you anything again ever. Sounds good. Tell me Yeah It's a call sign now when he's actually trying to keep it clean now. I know what's going on All right, the whole chat. Yeah, they know what's going on Dude, you let me show it show it publicly in my own chat. You dumbo. I asked your permission. They already know Oh, yeah Yeah, you're giving me shit. I'm like, this is already public knowledge And I remember I did I not ask your permission before I did that? Um, no, you did. Yeah, you did. Yeah, legit. You were there in the chat. Why didn't happen? So, all right, I I'm really embarrassed. I um, can we talk video games? He's like, I should have I should have been later. I should have been later. Uh, all right Uh, we got well, apparently we're both nintendo prime. I'll go fix that. What's up, eric? No, you know, what are you doing, buddy? Yeah, yeah, you know Yeah, I don't know why it says you're nintendo prime. I thought I fixed it's reasons But you both are also sexy and you know it Apparently sure, uh, then we have andress restart. I was going bud. Um, doing okay Doing better than shake right now. Well, maybe I'm currently debating. I'm currently debating how much I should I should say or not say Oh boy, um, so the real question is What are you playing lately? Andress will start with you I'm still playing a pickman 4. Um, I'm currently getting my my my ass kicked by the last night time level in the primordial I forget what I was literally playing it before We went live, but I'm getting close. I feel like I'm going to be done with pickman 4 in like a day or two Totally 100% I'm not showing off. It's just that that's just that's we were talking about it last week And then I'll move on to maybe that pokemon dlc Slash monster in her world. Yeah, I got jake in trouble. I keep seeing him look down. Yeah. No, it's cool. No, it's Your own fault Sorry, man. This is already She's a big she's a big fan of the show She's a big fan. She's gonna be coming and watch it watch her. Uh, start texting me later Once I want to know the real truth behind the scenes Oh god. No, she's no, she's cool. She honestly she wouldn't even do that It Okay, I'll I'll save it for later That you see me like caught off guard you must know and I'm just like what's he caught off guard for we already had this publicly happen Hey jay Not with me not on the show. I like your gene I just noticed you always wear a chain Yeah, any thing. Okay. Yeah, sometimes I wear this sometimes I tuck this one in one other one But yeah, he hasn't tucked it. I'm the other one tucked in right now. But yeah There's a chain kind of guy has a great smile. Thank you fox Hey, hey, you know what you already know it's starting. You have a great smile You're gonna be called sexy like it's already going Well, thanks guys So what are you been playing lately? Also, nice to meet you josey nice to meet you. I know you from the spawncast like and I've like I think I'm gonna Yeah, I've seen you. Yeah, yeah for sure But yeah, nice to like Start for being rude So so so you haven't played anything lately is what you're saying. Are you asking me? I'm sorry. No, I was talking to jake originally Okay, oh you oh you are yeah Yes, you can go first Oh I played uh, I'm playing super mario rpg right now. So I'm trying to get through that Uh, I took like a little hiatus because I just I'm in school. So I just drove home for winter break But now we're back onto it Perfect, perfect How far are you? uh I I'm chasing. Oh, is this I don't think it's a spoiler. I'm chasing the lizard guy through the the mines And I just beat him Okay, yeah halfway or so. I don't know Not nowhere, but you're definitely like Smack dab in the middle. Maybe even like the second half a little bit. There you go. Yeah I'm talking about So, uh, eric, what have you been playing lately? um Don't know. I actually I've been playing tears of the kingdom. So, um on my way to I'm at oh gosh, what the heck is that going on the way to the end? No, no, I just uh, is it the beach? No, no, no, no, no. Um, I'm in the That one skyline that was covered in clouds and oh well, I mean, yeah Oh Yeah, yeah, I know I know I want getting the last stage. I could drag in something. Yeah Oh, you're doing you're doing that. Are you doing the last stage? I know what it is. I know what it is You want to know what I want to find in tears of the kingdom versus cave? Um, that's like all crystals. It's like apparently it's like a random cave It's like not an important event to the game at all But there's just a random cave in the game that just has a whole bunch of like giant crystals And it looks really cool and I have no idea where it is nice Also, let's legendary bastard want to let you know that he loves your videos Thank you. You legendary bastard. I appreciate it love it, uh Jake, do you want to go now? um What was I playing this week, um, you're playing me I I think this is two weeks in a row, which I think this is the first time it's happened all year two weeks in a row I didn't play anything But I did Help a bunch of people get uh portals because there's a huge restock at best buy and walmart and the walmart won Lasted like 45 minutes. So a ton of people got them. I myself bought two more in addition to the one I have One of them is for my friend to give to his 11 year old son for christmas But I think I might give away the other one So have you unboxed yours yet? Wait, where is it? I know you have a lot of progress on what you're gonna do with it Yeah, I'm gonna make it once it's unboxed. Oh, that's a secret. That's a secret project. You're not talking about it publicly Yeah, it's gonna be a cool video when it comes out. It might honestly He said he was making a video on it last week. Um, Be uh, is it public knowledge that he's making a video on it? Not what not what the video is Okay I'm revealing I think she just closed the chat jake. I've never had a misluster. Never. This is great. Um Games, but I played the real life game which honestly like the restock stuff feels like a game to me sometimes That's why I like So I played the real life game of buying new consoles Nice. All right. I think I know what's throwing jake off. It's not my comments. It's the glasses. Sorry, man. We'll take them off My bad. It's the why bad didn't you see the Sweater by the way, I love I love ugly ugly sweaters ugly ugly sweaters the llama was sung That's why I was running the glasses and respect the llama. That's all Oh, nice. I would show you mine, but it's not keeping it clean I do. I don't care about keeping it clean here. You know that Um, that's why I that's why I never promise a can jake. So I never So, uh, what have I been playing lately? Well, I've been playing with apparently jake's emotions. Um By the way, whoever whoever happens to be watching the show jake is actually a legitimately good dude Like I'm not just talking about you just say this He has given me full permission to keep it filthy That whipped already you need permission No, I'm just saying he's like if you if you want to keep it filthy by all means So I'm just saying I like to keep it clean I get it. She likes you filthy Because that way that's why you're keeping it clean to save it all up for when you're around. I I get it. Okay. Yeah All right. Well, he's he's he's he's kind of a filthy bastard over there, but don't worry jake I got the bottle over here for me too. He's a tasteful filthy. Okay. This is gonna get crazy in a moment All right. Now that I know the the reins have been taken off. What have I been playing lately? Um What have I been playing lately? It's been so busy this holiday season. I hardly ever get to play games during the holidays Oh, um, rpg Um, I've now I've got four stars now. So wait Not before you before you answer Nate because I want you to answer so buys me a little bit of time I I think I need to go grab a white claw. I've never had a drink on your stream before But I didn't you did at the very beginning Oh, I did. Yeah long. Okay. I'm gonna grab a white claw. I'll be right back. Oh, baby She's really taking the leash off him. Oh boy. Shut up. Okay. She Hahaha This is this is very fascinating right now. There's there's a lot going on And josey's over there. Like I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy it real personal on this one That's just me. Just me and jake get that personal it gets It gets pretty good I'm just I'm just we keep we always keep it So private because he never gives permission to talk about it But jake literally we had a live stream about what happened on the podcast last week because we had a Behind-the-scenes conversation and I and someone asked something about why jake was trying to keep it so clean on the last show And I text jake. Hey, they're asking about this thing. Am I allowed to talk about it? Then he says oh hell Yeah, dude, tell them all about it So I did And he's surprised it came up He was there. He knows about it. Anyways, um that being said I Just for the record that that's that's what this is water Not pure vodka. There's a there's a running theory that I rarely actually drink water vodka on the rocks That'd be crazy. Just a glass of that is wild Yeah, there are people that could do it. I'm not one of them So I'm gonna play the yeah just super my rpg four stars in eventually gonna be done with it It's not a super long game. I just let's you know how much time I've had to actually games this last week Uh a little bit of madden. Hey one in my main madden league. I am the number two seed Noise and I'm the bills and everyone's leaving me this off season. So this is my one shot To win the Super Bowl. So we'll see what happens um Man, I don't think I played anything. I'm still working my way through spider-man 2, but I literally only just turned it on Oh That's why I didn't play in it. Sorry. I was in the skull and bones closed beta over the weekend Forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I played like six hour hard. I forget about that Oh, so we're sure if I could talk about it, but they said you can um Yeah, dude the skull and bones is actually really good I'm I'm very surprised. I thought it was going to be kind of boring and it actually is a lot of fun And I was playing on ps5 if you want to know what version I was playing. So Um Yeah, it's really good. That's all I that's all I'm really gonna say it's just it's just really there's a ton of footage out There if you guys want to go watch watch the game in action It's actually kind of cool. The game's actually just coming out like that's For a while. We kind of thought it might get cancelled. So All right, that's by ubisoft, right? Yes, yep. Does it feel like black flag at all? It there's a very So I don't it's like a vertical slice of the game Um, so kind of just drops you right in so I don't really know how it starts But there is a black flag feel to it a little bit Uh, and then it kind of veers off because the ship battles get way bigger At least the one that you're one of the main ones you're in and the is way bigger than any of the ones You saw on black flag But yeah, it has a similar a similar feel but they definitely really expanded What you can do in comparison the black flag, but I mean that's why they did it because that that part of black flag was so popular Right, they thought they could do more. So I I'm very curious once the rains are off all the stuff we're going to be able to do Um, it's it's going to be nuts Uh, let's see here To do oh, we had a super chat here from uh taker 610 Saying andress just wanted to be a wholesome nintendo youtuber, you know like rgt 85 Uh, but then he fell in love with the likes of natin jake his story at 10 happens I probably should have used my news of answer anyways, um Thank you By the way, if we if we got to know I see people super chatty then yeah, I do shots for super chats over 20 bucks and stuff But here's the thing Uh, we have a q and a Section that you guys can super chat and do for two dollars and just ask a question. That's towards the end of the show Uh, so if you guys want to submit questions, we just hold on to them. So if I go, oh, I'm trying to ask a question I'm not answering. I'm just waiting to answer it later. Um But speaking of a 20-dollar super chat free metro. I'd had just wanted to come in here Quick and go for my birthday on the 22nd. I wanted Nate to tell jake to get in a trash talk contest with angry joe That would be great. Also, Nate, don't forget our bed. Oh geez Yeah, that's saved. Is that the youtube channel? He does have it saved. Is that the youtube channel? No, I did not bet my youtube channel No, you did I offered a bet that no one took and that was on your channel. No one actually took the bet Oh, yeah, you completely said that wasn't a bad decision to take the bet Have it on record. You would give you bet your youtube channel that the switch Two would come out in 2024. Yeah You thought it was that guaranteed that you were willing to bet your whole channel on it Well, then no one took me up on the bet. So it didn't matter. It's just a bet with myself. I guess there you go I give what I give my youtube channel myself. I don't know Maybe josie wants it You want the channel, right? Oh, okay You said you're good Didn't realize we were bringing in a cynic it's okay I like it. I just like my brand. Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah, it's your old brand You can't you can't be coming on doing shots and Josie someone in the chat said earlier. So I know it's not just me Can you turn up your volume a little bit on your mic? Uh, yeah, I can Is that better? Sure, um say like a sentence Um, hello, my name is josie. Whoa. I make videos on youtube Whoa, what's coming out much more and then okay, it's just like the gain. So I'm worried it's gonna it's gonna Also, jake is the one that doesn't wear headphones. That's better. Thank you. Just to note He's like the only one who doesn't put headphones on so like Okay, that that is also true You listen to it out loud Yeah That's crazy Right here Which you can't really see it, but it's right next to me, but it's facing away from the speaker That's why it's because I keep the speaker so low That it doesn't interfere So I honestly think you should probably lower the gain a little bit because I can hear right. I feel like it's clipping a little bit Yeah, yeah, is that better? You're you're audible. Oh, no. Oh, no, jake. You might have to put headphones on at some point in your life Dude, I don't even know if I have I've never used headphones. I'll mess with this hair Can't do that. Well, maybe no The only ones I have dude are these ones right here and the left one's broken All right, I know what to get jake for christmas Josie if you need to adjust your audio level if you go to settings You click on the settings and click on the audio tab There should be something at the bottom that says automatically adjust mic volume Mine's on is checked. But if you want to play with it, you can uncheck it and scroll with that that might Yeah, is that better? I don't know. I don't think you sound fine to me. Yeah, I was gonna say I could just turn it on for you myself Oh, did it just meter? No, you just no That actually worked out. I cleared all your background noise out Sweet Oh, don't worry uncle prime over here's gotta take care of this. This isn't very professional with me I don't represent the spawncast Yeah, yeah, you are the representative of the spawncast. We haven't had one since october You're not well, you know, I don't yeah, I don't really wrap it actually because that was pretty unprofessional. So 10,000 subscriber youtube channel that's not a proper rep of the actual show that's calmed down everybody. Yeah, no calm down exactly I mean, you do know you were like the misclick replacement, right? Everybody now we're on the same podcast together I know I know Yep, yeah, I had to show the woman role. I guess but now we're both there. Hey, this looks coming on our show next month. So Oh, really? Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, she's coming on our show before and she had all of her real life stuff going on for a while. So, um Heaven forbid she has a baby. Yeah heaven I've had I've had three. I mean, well, I guess I didn't have them Yeah, you you haven't had any you haven't had the pain of uh I can't imagine Yeah, no, I can't imagine either to be honest. Um, I had a witness. I had to witness the pain and I'm like, um How I I wonder how you how women don't die. That's all like Wow, thank you. This is really getting great for me as a young woman What childbirth is insane. It's insane. I have to watch it. It's I just I'm just I'm just gonna I'm enjoying just watching Nate like go deeper and deeper Can we just move on? Put the shovel though. Can we move on? I like to dig my grave. The topics? Yeah, but my grave is so not deep enough yet. I'm fine with this as long as the focus is off me, honestly I could bring the backhoe if you really want me to To go on record. I adore miss click and I think we just kind of coexist together now, which I think is fantastic Yeah, that's all I know. She this looks great. She's I have nothing bad to say about her. She's been nothing but awesome and friendly to me the entire time I've been a youtuber. She's a she's a really genuinely nice person. Yep, and she'll talk shit to me and put me in my place It's good. I like it Yeah, she did she did last time she had no problem put me in my place. It was sweet And it reminds me of like the first time When I had you on Jake and like I totally messed up the ending democracy at a time. Remember that? I remember getting put in my place pretty Like the very first show you're on Just wreck me. Just wreck me on my own show. It's cool. I was wrong by the way. I deserved it, but yeah Yeah, no, never that one done being wrong about the ending of a zelda game really makes me mad at myself Especially I have a similar dispute once Yes, it is a disappointing moment in my life. Okay I you know what i'm chalking it up to Because i'm getting old man Yeah, see now i'm getting old My i'm i'm losing it. I'm losing it. I don't know. Hey, I'm younger than you. I started recent. I'm yet. I'm starting to get grace like It's it's happening. I don't have any grays up here just just down here, but still Well, maybe just don't have good enough eyes to see the grace All right, let's move on to the topics. All right. Are you sure? Yeah, maybe you're saying that because because I put your name on the next topic It's like maybe doing something or saying something right because I didn't want to make notes Actually second motion to move on to the topics. There we go. Yeah, she's never coming back on again. Let me just got that confirmation So topic one because we won't ask her back on I really hope I didn't read you. I didn't read that might be blocked after the show It hasn't already happened. Just a giant little finger emoji and blocked done. What am I talking about? All right, so I will introduce it. Um, I think I said your name. Yeah, I did I'm just research. I can probably recap a lot if he chooses until I wrote literally in the notes So it's a choice, but let me introduce it So look, we have a couple of zelda topics today guys. Uh, the first one is basically let's just stop Smacking this around it keeps coming up Is there going to be a big zelda remake happening and dropping sometime in the next two years? And there's a ton of rumors and a ton of other stuff And that's where I said if I just restart wants to recap any of that It's up to him. I'd love to Because I know you mostly I'm down for that. Oh, he knows all about the rumors. He's got a lot of the right. I'll stop it said. Yeah I'm already getting upset Why this wasn't supposed to be an upsetting topic. Can I can I can I go? Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right All right. So it's not that there aren't rumors I just don't like how people are just calling it a rumor Because I've seen I've seen channels cover this I've seen people write articles on this stuff I'm not pointing fingers. You've covered pretty much all the details. So I I have less reason to point fingers at you than others I'm not pointing fingers. You mean I give all the context. I just think as a collective Some things are being misconstrued because I bet like you take one random person that doesn't necessarily like do all the research They just think oh, yeah, there's a random rumor from zippo Like that's not why we're talking about this. Oh, no, that's like the least important thing, but like so the The reason why we're talking about occupying a time remake Is it's not just because there are rumors, right? It's because you look at the history Of how nintendo ends their generations When they don't have when they end their generation with a zella game And they don't they don't have like a new zella to be a cross-gen title What happens is within that first year and a half we see some type of repurposed 3d zella game So there's a history of that this has happened multiple times So that alone right like you just ignore anything else like just that history, right? Like then tell is going to probably put some type of zella game early on for the next system Like can you reasonably think that they would wait five to six years without some sort of significant hardcore zella injury like that just doesn't That's not how they've done in the past Right, but then you also factor that on top of the trademark We had a couple years back the game over jesse videos ago a couple years back, right? Where there was some rumor stuff, but then more recently we had what we had the nintendo dream magazine Where anuma was talking about how it's interesting I'm paraphrasing, but it's but something's the effect of how he doesn't think anyone Really knows the character of raru anymore outside of tears is the kingdom which is hard That's that's that's ocarina time. Yes, there's raru town Leave you look at the interview it's talking about the character which means literally raru from ocarina time So it's interesting that he talks about an interview and then in another interview, which is even more recent with game informer We have the situation where What is it? Literally they ask him. Hey, so is there an ocarina time remake happening and he just responds no comment And so that doesn't necessarily confirm anything But he could have denied it as nintendo has done in the past and he did it He chose not to in in this time where everyone's talking about ocarina time for the 20th anniversary There's a lot of stuff. Can I add something and go for it? um, I just You guys I think all talked about this, uh, but recently nintendo Was asked about like a zelda maker And they outright said that wouldn't work. We're probably not going to do that So it's interesting that like they were asked about those two things pretty close together And they wouldn't deny one thing Yeah, they flat out denied one of them and then with the other that's a very nintendo. That's a nintendo tell No comment Exactly, but I think that's a fantastic point, you know, it's actually something I haven't brought up in my videos Like it's it's a recent example where they have denied something And yeah, no, it's that's a fantastic point So you you have enuma being asked about this you have this history you have this potential t's also enuma has teased I love I love potential pieces Right, like literally he he said scours or hd on switch, right? It had zelda conster back in 2018 and we talked about it. People were like, oh, no, that's bolt That's bogus nintendo denied it and what happened three years later scours or dhd So it may not come to next year, right? Like so maybe we we talk about great time remake three years from now when it's actually announced but In terms of like just like what's actually being said by the producer of zelda and the history of nintendo There's reason to think that something ocarina time could be happening But this kind of situation gets more interesting because there was a the zippo rumor and then there was the rumor from serkan toto Who has a clean track record of teasing zelda stuff? Of course, we have to kind of decipher what that is and I think now the game words have come and gone It definitely wasn't any sort of zelda remaster, but it was for the zelda movie reveal That feels pretty safe to say at this stage zelda reveal 2023 Right. Yeah, it was for the movie. Yeah, but now we have this new thing from nash weedle Who seems to have a pretty strong track track record? Where he put out a cryptic kind of tweet that was very much the exact same form factor of the serkan toto tweets And it was it was cz r 2024 and so now we're all like, okay, what does that mean? I I mean that that's that's a whole guessing game, right? Was it mean classic zelda remake does it mean classic zelda reveal? Yeah, this was just literally Yeah, like Boomini and I were on that that's like yeah, boomini wanted to say what do we think that c stands for there's a lot of things It could stand for yeah And so that's kind of like a basic summary. I would say there's other there's we could I mean we go on for For hours just talking about all the context, but uh, I think that's a good enough So the big thing is are we going to get and and I I like emphasize this a bit because Look, they do a lot of remasters, right? Like it's almost like given that we're gonna get zelda remasters But I want to focus on a remake. Well, we're done remastering. We're done I remastered all the classic 3ds. See that depends because if they just hd ocarina time 3d. That's just a remaster Yeah I just don't think they're gonna remaster a remaster That's this. I don't even do that like they yes Yes, they did a remaster and they did a remake, right? Isn't that what happened? It wasn't The last thing that has been remastered like six times I'll be like sony definitely does this. This is not I want to see all the different iterations of the last of us Sure Which there is just like a page that just told me all the well, the problem is you're gonna hold on hold on There's three Right because there's a ps4 version. Yeah ps3 was the first one was the original and they had and they remastered it for ps4 Right and and then they remade it. We know it was really like a remaster for ps5. Yeah, the lighting's just a little different Yeah, the animations are all A remake yeah, are they yeah Yeah, did they call did they officially call it the last of us remake because it is not I remember seeing on the box art like the last of us part one And I don't think it's I'm looking at the timeline here Maybe this is wrong. So if I'm wrong just correct me, right? But I'm looking at timeline So 2013 was the last of us 2014 the last of us left behind is that like an expansion? Yeah, okay Yeah, I'm not a last of us fan just for the record and then they also had the last of us remastered in 2014 Then in 2020 the last was part two then 2022 the last of us part one Wait, andres, have you have you played it? No, the last was part two remastered. It is very good What happens in your hardcore nintendo fend you ignore a lot of other good games No, but yeah No, but anyway, so I think it just man. I think you'd like it But it looks like they made the game then they remastered the game then they put out a um a remake Which is where they if I'm that's where they call in the parts Where that is part one that is correct and on paper that sounds reasonable, but really They just kind of re-released it for ps4 and then remastered the ps4 version like didn't and called it a remake Yes, yeah Anyway, I don't know if nintendo would do that um I don't doesn't like first off awkward time came out back in in 20 I'm gonna ask you this 13 years and ask you this once And this this is in the same train of thought so you do not think they'll take the win waker hg and twilight princess hg and 4k them Yeah, and that that's I've kind of talked about this a little bit It is That's a remaster unless unless it's like a straight port collection kind of thing Like if it's a collection, I think that's kind of like The acceptance of the rule where it's two games and one which which has a part of the speculation, right? Um, but otherwise I just don't see nintendo remastering and already already since it's been remastered A remake though. I think makes sense. Also. It's been such a long time since then Yeah, I know our green and time originally came out in 98 right um 13 years later that came out of 3d in 2024 It'll already be in our 13 years Yeah, and I mean if we're being real there's also a fantastic chance that if this is happening It's not coming out next year. It would be a 20 25 or later kind of thing So there's already going to be arguably a longer gap between the whenever this would come hypothetically And the 3ds version versus the original Sure Yeah, and the game is so dated like I feel like it just needs some updates. There's some like very crucial uh Quality of life things that they need to do I get blasted too and everyone's like you're just a young dumb girl. You don't understand Maybe she's young. I don't know your age. I don't have to know she ain't dumb. I watch her content all the time But you know what that started to interrupt this. This reminds me for a moment briefing. I wanted to bring up Yeah, how was I not nominated for nintendo content creator of the year? What was up with this? Oh, you want I didn't know I didn't know All right, I didn't know this was an actual thing that's all yes. Yes. He like he just won the golden award That's what he acted like No I think I think I think uh, it was a good choice Did you say something about the award or? Uh, I I just think the oh the the thing he sent me the acceptance speech was really funny and it was not It was not an acceptance speech for what the award. I I don't know Yeah, I was making a joke on the joke that rgt was making. Yeah, wait, is that like publicly available? It's on my channel. Yes. Yes. Yeah Yeah, go watch dude, it's hilarious and yes, you'll get the rgt's getting there you guys know come on He was on our show. He was doing the hulk hogan skit or anything like rgt likes to have a good time Wait, and he's not a nintendo youtuber I don't this is probably not on my on the on the docket But I think this has been important for your channel and I kind of just keep it real about rgt for like a second You know, oh About just like gerard and stuff. Whoa Can we please? It's fine. I talked about it. I'll go for it. He wants to make a statement. So let's go all all i'm gonna say is that Like the completionists like charity fraud thing Like I was pissed off right away from just from knowing that he had held on to the donations for 10 years if This is all out there if you're not up to date You can google the completionists or type it on youtube and you'll watch a video And you'll be up to date. But basically Just that alone the fact that he knew that donations were sitting in account and didn't do anything for two years The reason that triggered me so much is because the drug that saved my life That's almost like a cure like a pseudo cure for cystic fibrosis. That was funded by a foundation Not unlike gerard's that took in donations and allocated it to different Pharmaceutical companies doing research for a new drug So because of that foundation it saved my life, but if they would have let their donations sit For even five years That drug might have never come out or when it did because it really kind of came out in the nick of time for me I I might not be here and a lot of other people might not be here. So the problem with the money sitting in the account even if Everything else was was fine, which even more and more stuff has come out and it's not good But just with that knowledge It could have that could have potentially helped people that maybe passed away And it could have at least given money that was assistance to actual families Going through stuff to pay medical bills or whatever even if it didn't come up with a cure Which for dimension most likely probably wouldn't have But you don't know that. Yeah, you don't know. So Anyway, it does matter. I think that's a really good point I don't like to thank you Andres But I don't I don't like to get involved in drama But to me that wasn't drama that like hit home. So I actually said something about it and I think most people even from the gecko agreed with Uh, Carl and mutahar about what was going on But a lot of people within the youtube sphere Jump to defend the completionist and I'm not gonna lie. I used to like want like the big channels like to respect me or whatever But I had I just had to say something so a lot of them followed me, right And a lot of them were getting mad at me like attacking me And I didn't say anything rude to them back because I knew they're talking about their friend They weren't the ones that did it. So I just like kept my mouth shut But I was like, it's like you're not listening to what I'm saying and I really didn't do it But a few people didn't and one person Was Rgt 85 Sean he liked a bunch of my things. He retweeted some of my stuff and we talked about it in dms and uh He's someone that doesn't care what people think and he can come off as like kind of crass maybe like Not like not like not like kind of like the opposite of jarred like not like the super nice guy but Like sometimes people like that that actually had a heart of gold and he would like get so mad if I said that But like he's a good guy. That's all I want to say man And uh, I really appreciated him and Nate, you know this I left a comment on your video But I really appreciated your video too. You guys both made videos talking about me So You were one of the reasons I wanted to talk about it. I saw the online shit happen and I was like, man I like hadn't talked to you about how you felt about some of those people saying those things I figured if you didn't bring it up I didn't want to go there, but I knew what you said publicly and I'm like Yeah, I mean this literally literally when this went down, you were the first person I thought about I was like, uh, no, I know that your life was saved because it's something similar to this This is not like this isn't cool. So And honestly with the apology video before I even got to the end I Like made notes of everyone he apologized to and like I would never be in that situation But let's say I was the first thing I would do is I'd be like, I'm so sorry to To any patients or their families like that's the first person I want to apologize. That's the only one he left out He went out his way to at one point apologized directly to sponsors And It wasn't it was like The apology besides the sponsors wasn't much of an apology. It was a lot of uh, if you felt wronged Uh What? Yeah, well, I mean he did say I'm I'm sorry For my part He apologized to a lot of different groups of people and it wasn't like if you felt wrong, but he did later Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a very weird response Anyways, the point is it was a really bad situation. Nobody wins And a lot of people get sucked up in it because the completionist was friends with a ton of really big youtubers Um And you're seeing even today, you know, you're seeing beat them up and bob wolf go out there and recant their prior statements And make it known that they're not cool with what went down and I'm sure we'll see more and more of that from other youtubers As they start to maybe distance themselves Realizing that at this point It goes too deep for Anyone to think there's nothing wrong happened I will say a couple people did send me some really sincere like apology dms And I'm not gonna name who they are. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I uh, it was really nice. So I appreciated that a lot Yeah, this is just a situation none of us expected or wanted to deal with Um, but also I give credit to the the two original youtubers who brought attention because if they didn't The money might still be sitting there And nothing would have happened. So it's better the money's actually at least win somewhere So hopefully it being given now helps people out years down the road. We'll see Um So back to zelda How did I know I knew I mean, I think I was I think I was trying to make a joke, but He won an award Congrats Oh my stupid little thing. Yeah, that's how we got started. Yes. Oh, you won the word No, I I did win the zoomer award of the spawncast awards Yeah, let's go. Wait, did the spawn or did Sean? Did you win the black helium award? Yeah, I did that was the John's uh game of the year, uh thing finish I don't think so. No, it's still going Okay, okay. Yeah, that's the one not to be confused with mine. Mine's only about nintendo switch games Relax, that's good. Obviously if you probably don't even know that talk to him behind the scenes I can't believe he just announced this. I was already playing in this thing And I was like, yeah That is true. Yeah, that was a while ago. I mean this was over a month ago It's all right. I'm glad he's doing it because I wasn't going to include all the consoles in it. So um All right, so getting back to the zelda stuff Do you guys think like we're going to get like a big remake? Even even just announce the next couple of years because I want to pose a question to you guys like on this like Like you do you think nintendo would would do take octane time 3d and just kind of cheap it out Like a very basic upscale. No way. No, I don't think so Like nintendo's already kind of shown that they're willing to do more ambitious things now. You're looking at your hiring master. Yes, that's what I was going to say even though your door remake was amazing like they also treated it different I want to I want to note this because I pay a lot of attention to this because people seem to always get mad about it Nintendo doesn't celebrate the major anniversaries of all the zelda games But they did put out tweets about the 25th anniversary of octane of time, which Means that they think it's different than other zelda game anniversaries. It it is and For them to recognize it. It's just like another like little crumb, right? Like they're thinking about like the whole nintendo is aware of the importance and they have the mentioning it So it's like everything is definitely leaning towards. I I think it's coming Yeah, I think they know how much they need to respect that that source material because it's so many people's like favorite game of all time It's regarded by everyone is like one of the best games ever So I think that if they were to literally just kind of port the 3ds I want to be such a disservice and like when you bring that to new audiences and like people like My age or something who didn't grow up with it and that's what they play after hearing all these amazing things about it It's going to be disappointing because it is dated and so if they were to like Bring it to modern audiences. I think they they they need to do a remake So yeah, and the other thing is like you take a game like super mario rpg That's just kind of been like forgotten for so long and now all of a sudden Yeah, you can just port it and just ups go a little bit But like if you did that with ocarina time like people will be upset especially because it's on nso For the n64 version. Yeah, which is already a 1080p upscale That's another thing that makes it make no sense to just do it like that also So to you guys this point like my fiance she became a Zelda fan because of Breath of the Wild I've just casually shown her ocarina time and she's like, uh, this feels really bad. I'm like Well, but I mean look she's not Like if you got into Zelda with modern It doesn't quite feel Right like it the controls are clunky Um, there's a distinct lack of freedom, which by the way that is like Zelda games had that lack of freedom Ocarina time ironically it was actually a bit more free than some other Zelda games around that time, but Um, that's another reason to bring it back I think though because like I think of all the 3d zelda's ocarina time It made vibe the most with Like like modern zelda fans because honestly it does have more openness to it They can make minor tweaks and it's gonna feel like an open world game again Would it be you just gotta do the dungeons out of order without having to like glitch through walls and stuff Would it be a I want I want them to actually add something I want them to add more Open world exploration like in between the dungeons and like stuff in Hyrule field A bigger like uh, Kakariko village a bigger Hyrule castle town We talked about this before I mean that I'll use During part of the map more Hyrule castle town actually have like places you can go in and out of not just like What if we go inside the castle a few different? Oh Like when I was a kid I always wanted to find a way to get into the castle Like I I literally try to clip myself into the castle because there are rooms you can see through the windows And so as a 10 year old you're like, oh Like what's there? So it would be cool if they actually let us explore it in ocarina time Like that would be cool Yeah, there's so much they could do and they don't have to they don't have to remake the game in the Breath of the Wild engine right like I feel like that's maybe asking too much right because if if we're getting this this is meant to kind of Be a stop gap right like they're good. They're the Zelda team is focusing on the next Yeah, I don't think the Zelda team is making that by the way that's higher someone else That's kind of they might oversee it a little bit but that yeah, yeah What do you say my question for you guys? Do you think this would because it's a little bit more open than the older other older Zelda games? You think this would be a good stepping stone back towards a more linear Non-open world Zelda won't happen. They were ever getting that again Yeah, they literally just came out in an interview and straight up said they're not going back Yeah, I know you don't keep up on everything. But yeah, I'll know my literally like why would we go back? I get I get people's nostalgia but I think it could be a good like Midpoint though like if they ever do remake a game more faithfully or if they're bringing like Wind Waker and Twilight Princess to the next console or to the switch eventually like it could be like Hey, you like this remake that kind of style is similar to these new games that we have coming out Because like I don't like your fiance like I I really got into Zelda after Breath of the Wild And I had dabbled in the other ones when I was a kid, but I just didn't really they didn't grab me um And then like I went back to play ocarina of time and I tried to when I was like 11 Because I've all of every youtuber was like it's the best game ever and I was like, okay sick And then I played it and I was super upset because it was not what I thought I agreed well I uh, well I grew up in the wee generation too. So I like different So 11 did you try to play in the 3ds one instead? I played the wee you No, okay Virtual console one. Yeah, I think I would like the 3ds one a lot more, but yeah, that's why I was wondering because it is a little different so yeah But honestly gameplay wise it's it's very similar. Yeah, like you might it visually looks kind of better And I mean and they added the master mode in With it. Yeah master mode was cool, but but again the master mode was only going to matter to people that already That's not going to make you like the game. No if you are if you hated it before the controls I mean like I have you guys aiming was better aiming was That was kind of the main thing that pissed me off. Yeah aiming was better than the 3ds version Yeah, so that is important and then the Item item navigation was a little bit better too. Like yeah swapping the iron booths for example That was the original in the original like doing that in the water temple. That's so nice. You had to go through so much stuff Yeah, that was a game like yeah, yeah Yeah, and then the water temple they did make that a little bit easier to navigate through Oh, really? Yeah Those are sort of big changes even just like because on the n64 controller You didn't even have dual analog sticks and on the 3ds. It was janky, but so just even to have modern aiming with the That it's one of the reason why I love um skyward sword hd though, right because they're they did add a like You know a movable camera, which the original didn't have And you know just being able to play the game without having to use motion controls That plus 60 fps like for me like those are small little things, but they made the game really fun for me I'm the only person in the world that wishes that motion controls were the way zel that was controlled forever I'm I love those controls. I hey hold on hold on don't miscontrol what I said I I like the motion controls, but I wanted to play it like You like what I want it no no no no see that butt part doesn't exist in my vocabulary for this I want all zel the games to control that way. I love it Those motion controls were great. We just needed to not be treated like we were babies We needed real enemies that actually You know attack and take advantage not like so obvious. Well, how do you attack them? You know be a cool side zel the game if they were to do like um Like I mean by the way, I'm the only person who thinks this so it's okay. I see you I see the hate in the chat. I'm operating time. It's not even your top 10. So Uh, no but scoured swords in my top five So I'm just saying scoured we're not getting we're not getting into what my time I think the time could get there if they make certain changes in a remake Yeah, I think they don't even have to do very much for a remake like just modernize the controls Update the graphics make everything look nice, but we don't have to change the game really because I think it's a really good game underneath all the jank Yeah, I mean and that that may be what they do Like if you look at most of the Nintendo remakes, like it's usually just Visual uplift. Yeah, they don't have to but I just think it would be cool Like I know it'd be great for sure, especially if they added like an extra dungeon or something that'd be If they just made it like, you know, like that footage of like someone who like made like Kakariko village and on real engine. Yes If they just made it like Pretty much exactly like that modern gameplay, but everything was one to one and it was like that would be amazing Like I would be all in but if they just Added some like some of the stuff that I was talking about earlier. I just think it'd be so cool, you know I think it's interesting guys bring that up because like the original like a lot of the like houses and even um Castle town like their third 2d Like it's like yeah, it would be nice So like the right it would be nice to have like a fully 3d rendered area like everything with a movable camera So you could fully explore and look around Like that I feel is a reasonable expectation. Yeah, like look if they if they put one to one motion controls And not grand time remake it'll be in my top five Dude, I'm honestly like part of me is hoping that I'm not like I'm not even trolling. That's the thing like Charles shrewdell agrees with me in the chat. He's one of the few people that love the controls. Here's the thing The controls I think are great people not paying attention to the tutorial and thinking they could waggle Like it's twilight princess is the problem It's it's really really good and it could be so much better today And you know the irony is I hate vr, but that's where you get those kind of controls now is in a vr environment So I guess I just need to hope for a vr zelda someday because that's the only time I'm going to get this Labo, but we all have our here's the thing I say this and tears of the king was my favorite zelda game of all time. So like Obviously, it's not a requirement for me to think a game is great. It's just I really love the one-to-one sword controls I could do away with maybe some of the extremes they went where they made you actually have to draw the bow I don't you know, I could have probably did away with that aspect Especially when they let you literally point and shoot the The slingshot they could have made you draw the slingshot too and it's like, okay Well after you use the slingshot it makes you not want to use the bow But the sword controls are really what got me. I so enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot, but it's okay They already gave a scab or sword hd. It is what it is I'm I'm glad that they gave other controls for it by the way the right stick because It'll allow more people to enjoy it that otherwise one tab and even still people complain about it Because they'd rather it just be a button press and that's fine You know Like what are your thoughts on skyward sword? I like skyward sword I grew up with that game though sort of like I never beat it as a kid But my brother always played it. So like I have a soft spot for it. I think Um, what about the motion controls? I like the controls as a kid, but when I came to the switch, I played entirely Like you played it with the traditional controls I think like I think it'd be a cool idea. I guess if they had it like as an option But I love I love you had the you had the butt use as instead but like because so there's nobody on the show that agrees with me Got it. All right It's fine. I love waggle too, but I'm alone. It doesn't really fit Zelda super well. It's not waggle skyward sword's not waggle It's not You can waggle you can you can use waggle to get through even though you okay Yes, you can and you can also just spam the attack button with a single button and get through most of zelda What's your point? It's not any different if you're just going to waggle then just spam your attack button You'll you'll get through almost every zelda game You don't have to aim your attacks. You don't have the time I didn't mean to say waggle. I was trying to say motion controls. I think I like motion controls is what I'm saying But I hated the waggle and I'm not even knowing about that He'll take like one thing that you're like trying to say and like make a whole point against it I hate it because waggle is not the same as motion controls I know but and I appreciate she corrected herself waggle is what they had in twilight princess on on we I actually liked the waggle I feel more satisfying It's better than a button press It's your podcast now. Andre Um, I didn't check the topics I'm trying to cleanse myself over here. I gotta drink some pickle juice quick Are you serious? It's spicy pickle juice. God you do that I Here's the thing. I don't know what we're talking about anymore The thought is gone. How many shots did you take? No, it's not the Yeah, she is new she get chat forgive her. She is new. She doesn't know I gotta be 18 deep before we have a problem. Um And Eric can confirm he's seen it Anyways Unless sorry tequila is different though. If I do three tequila is how we'll be under the table Since you're just it's different approaching an abbreviation with your pickle juice. I'll continue on the topic. Um What do we think about the CZR 2024 specifically though like that lettering like what does that mean? Let me let me bring up the boom any chat on that one more time Because he was he really wanted us to know that what do we really think this means Crusty zelda remake and they're remaking Ocarina of time because it's crusty. Oh, I thought you're gonna see the i games Rejuvenated. Yeah, there we go I'm just gonna go go with the cast zelda reveal Don't you think it's too early though? Uh, they announced the movie right now. Why won't they announce the cast next year? Well, they announced the marm of the years ago But years before they announced the cast it was it was I'm pretty sure it was one year before they announced the cast It was literally like a year apart. Take it easy Yeah, I know no Eric's doing the google and he'll he'll correct this fact wise on this. He's got it Um, his soul is 100. I'm like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this one. I know I'm right Oh He does have like a photographic memory sometimes, dude. I this feels like when I thought I was right about the acronym of time ending No Last week he was like, oh the wind waker came out in may 23rd 2002 or whatever he said and he was right Yeah, well, we were we were all right. We were thinking north american release. He was thinking jenna. I was like, well in december Yeah, technically we were all of us We we were thinking a different character to drop an exact date like that Yeah, well, it's because I made a video on it. Yeah, he made a video. He made a video. Oh, okay. All right, fair. Yeah That's why I mentioned here. I wasn't thinking like the smartest person ever Maybe I am Dude, eric's struggling over here. Maybe yeah, hold on All right, when was the mario movie first announced? Let's just establish this 2018 from what I saw. Uh, yes, january 31st 2018 and then it was 2022 or 2021. Sorry when the cast was revealed Oh To be fair though Well, you know what that's not really fair because the zelda movie was the zelda movie was announced in a financial briefing as well They both were announced in the final right. Oh, he's gotta pull out Yeah, so what he's saying is he can't be bad. We're three years The mario movie was announced january 2018 in a financial briefing. Yeah That's what I was just trying to say I was just trying to get you and then I realized the zelda movie was announced the same way I'm admitting you're right and I'm wrong. Okay. You're right. What do you think the steezy r thing stands for? I still think it's gonna be the cast it's all the movie I'm just you're just I mean I I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying I I'm skeptical because I think animation takes longer That's why I think it took longer That's my I'm gonna stick by that argument We do know they haven't started filming it though like they're they're not they're not even putting that together yet We don't know 100 yet because the director is working on another movie right now He may work on a movie before this other movie another king kong related movie That's not what he said in his most recent interview. He literally said Up next is up next. I'm adventuring in high rule is what he said. Well, that's I if you go back to it, there is this implication. He's working on one What is it? It's either plan of the apes plan of the apes is the one coming out next year Right, so he's working on a series right now, right? So he's either wrapped so I guess the point is if you go back to the interview It could be that movie and then zelda But there was I think a possible implication that maybe there's another movie in the same series So it would just be kind of like this thing, but yeah points is that he's not working right now To know directors sometimes do work more on more than one movie at once as well. That's the thing Yeah, depends on how the shooting schedules line up. We don't even know if they've hired a cast yet No, I have no idea. We don't I mean distract just recently. It's listen. I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying I'm probably wrong. I was just bringing it up because it involves the letter c Yeah, I mean it's possible It's a very broken. It is ours I don't I so the the thing is I love the idea of it being a Maybe it's standing for a classic zelda reveal Because that would be an awkward time remake potentially But I also think that expecting awkward time remake next year feels like a little bit of a stretch If we assume switch choose coming out next year Like if they're gonna get 3d mario retro prime force coming out then it doesn't want other things besides single player games In like that launch window So it just feels like a too many like single player like hardcore nintendo stuff to have all at the same time Okay, so i'm just kind of thinking that if we are getting the awkward time remake soon It would be a 2025 thing now. Maybe they just reveal it in 2020. Yeah, that's what that's what it would be And so maybe So maybe that's the case right, but I also feel like I'm not sure nash will be would be privy to that it's possible um And so I throw out another idea that maybe it's capcom zelda remake But then when I think about that we just got links awakening remakes. So to get to 2d zelda remakes Well, my point is that we haven't gotten a new top down 2d zelda yet So I would it would be kind of weird to me if we got two remade zelda's that are 2d and They might not be making new top down zelda's anymore. If you listen to all new one They're not doing classic zelda new games anymore. I know that's just his team A link to the world is had it is different than than the other zelda's like it has that open format You mean it's like a link to the past It's literally just copy what a link to the past it literally a link between. I don't just mean the word I don't mean the worder. You can do done is out of order and i'm into the past Are you I mean, I might say you couldn't I think there's like a Check and check me on this you can do you can do a lot of order. That's already been the game once Yeah, and I fox I remember it being a relatively Yeah, okay. This is where this is gonna make sure you say good night. I don't know if that's the woman but is potentially a woman This is a potentially a woman. It is a woman Um, I'm pretty sure I'm not really convinced either way like what? Yeah, yeah, zelda chic warrior 94 set is confirming or at least on my side saying you can do some of the dungeons out of order some Some not all technically it's some in the world You can't you can't do you can't do you okay? You can't do all the dungeons out of order in a link between worlds either Yes, you can't So you can go right to the end dungeon Right away. All right Excluding the end dungeon not just the end dungeon Not just the end You have like eight different items that you can pick from the beginning and each item allows you to go to a different Dungeon in the world right from the beginning. Sure I'm what I'm saying is there are certain dungeons you can't do to other dungeons are done I'm bringing this up because actually tears of the kingdom did something very similar There's a dungeon in tears of the kingdom you can't do just because you want to do it either through Technically is right the fifth dungeon. You can't you can't just go to and do it can do it But there I think there are some things you have to do in order to do it Yeah, it's not available to you Well technically on this is right because you can actually beat the whole game without doing any of them Well, I mean, yeah, you can beat the game. Yes So I the thing is um with the spirit temple Okay, you're right I just picked Eric and now there is there is a series of quests that you have to do If I'm not mistaken To beat that to beat that dungeon, but that doesn't require beating the other dungeons You can ignore all the other dungeons and do the series of quests that allow you to do the spirit Sure Like going to that island the sky that's related to the dragons like I think that's tied to that And it it's not tied to their dungeon so you can still technically do the spirit temple for the other dungeons I'm actually curious. I haven't attempted it. But let me see There's nothing stopping you from going on that that island the sky where the storm is Um, I'm not even sure we're sort of two deeds. Zelda could make sense though. It apparently requires a lot of prep Do we know what Grezzo's doing just uh, we don't So like they could be doing some sort of new ish 2d top zone type delta thing Yeah, but they also could be a greedy zealot because they've got the spirit temple has the has the highest requirement of stuff You need to do ahead of time to be able to do it But you don't have to get to do a ton of shrines And a bunch of other stuff in order to even be able to do it apparently Yeah, but it can be your first dungeon. It can technically be your first dungeon. Yes Yes, but assuming that you guys don't count shrines, but um Cool So I got I got fact-checked. Thank you. I appreciate it. I like it. You know the point though, right? Like it's just like A 2d zelda could make sense next year like Intel's gonna want to give like this switch one some games too, you know Um, I don't think we're getting a new 2d zelda. I just don't think they're making any brand new top-down zeldas I know I want one. Oh this is why we happen to be wrong But I don't I don't think there's they're going to do that I think if there will be if they're not done with top-down zelda and that they're gonna remake more of them I just don't because I was going to bring this up later that hey, I don't think every time is the only remakes We're getting we're going to get more remakes of the top-down zelda as well I don't think that we're going to make new top-down zeldas anymore I think and you might go because like when you mentioned, well, we have things awakening recently Yeah, but we've had skyward sword hd since then now it's time for a top-down zelda remake Like that actually might make more sense to come out next year and could have been what gresel has been working on this whole time Right That's why i'm not sure it's octane time remake capcom. I don't and the thing is you mentioned the capcom thing I don't know if you told me about remake. Yeah Yeah Finish already. I mean, I know the oracle games through those have had rumors for a little bit people would love those. Yeah Yeah, I would love it Some people would think that it's actually if they did the oracle games it set up because they were supposed to be a third one Right, they could somehow add more like there's actually more stuff out there that never got done That maybe they could do as well to make it more enticing to buy them But that's just the like the sea can mean so many things like that was the the premise that you set up with the sea I mean, it it's just clearly. I mean in the night of jake, it's clearly clean Clean zelda remake Oh It's it's clearly clean. I was thinking cannoli that too Well, I mean some people throw classic zelda remake out there, which I mean, yeah, that's such a broad term though It's extremely broad. Yeah, but also we don't know what he's alluding to and there's all assuming. He's not completely false Like he's just a fake. I don't think you mean that he's fake and made everything up Yeah, it's it's funny because you mentioned earlier how like I don't think he'd be privy to like, you know A certain like knowledge of a zelda game or whatever But if he if we give him all that credit for metroid dread, well, how's he so knowledgeable metroid? As mercury steam a That's that's a studio outside of nintendo, but I would think any studio working on zelda remakes would be outside of nintendo And that's fair. And so maybe I was off for suggesting that as an example band dynamico has a 3d action remaster in the work somewhere A remake. I don't know I know I know where everyone else stands on this, but just the same issues in the kingdom It'll help me get context. I just need to know if joe c prefers breath the wilder tears of the kingdom Um, that is a question. That's a hard question Um, oh god, I was you can like She's gone right over there. Hold on. Give her a moment. I'll give you a pose why you like each one Okay, uh Breath of the wild I'm not saying it's the better one But I really like breath of the wild because like it got me into zelda sort of and I liked that it was like this open format um And I think it's easier to go back to Just out of curiosity said that in the chat almost exactly. It's easier to go back to for me, um and I think It's sort of more impactful than tears of the kingdom, I guess But I had more fun with tears of the kingdom because you could do crazy stuff I feel like I feel like andres like I think you said similar things before Yeah I remember one conversation where I was like talking about Like hyping up how good breath of the wild was because we had been talking about how much better tears of the kingdom was a lot And you're like that pisses me off. We were on the same page. We weren't disagree with me But you're like, thank you for saying like good things about breath of the wild because it Did different things. Yeah, I don't know it for me. It's a little it's a little weird I feel like I said this a lot too Like I think as time passes my feelings on zelda kind of developed right because like with breath of the wild When I beat it, I was like, okay, this is done. This is good. But wasn't that great? And over time I kind of found myself going back to it loving it more and more And so I kind of have a suspicion that the same thing's going to happen to tears of the kingdom So If you were to ask me right now, like what is my preferred game of the two? I would say breath of the wild But there's an asterisk there because I understand My development for my love of breath of the wild developed in a way that could lead to tears of the kingdom taking that spot I also feel like they're so similar. It's all I it's kind of like talking about galaxy one and two Like I rather just kind of think of them as a giant Yeah Honestly, it's very similar because I feel like galaxy one Like had the story was more impactful because it was the first one, but a lot and Galaxy two is honestly it's almost just like Levels that's it. There's like nothing in between for a lot of people like it more It added like yoshi, which tears of the kingdom's added stuff like galaxy two is great. I think better great comparison Yeah So that's actually I guess a nice segue since uh tears of the kingdom is the next topic um And funny how that worked. It was almost like it just naturally happened because we're talking zelda or jake Or jake just forced it because he was what he wanted joe zi to be Even a real easy segue like I feel like we should ask that to everyone that comes on the podcast Like the spawncast has like the gamecube or n64 one. I don't know if they still do that Oh, I mean sort of I got asked it. I don't know if they oh, that's a tough question I say thank you. I don't really like the n64, but they asked me that and I Yeah, just my stance is n64 is more important to history But gamecube um has more games that I kind of hold in higher regard That's what I said and I told everyone how I understand that the n64 is so important I still got blasted. They were like this little she's too young to understand how important That was and I was like I get it It's not that you're too young to understand but you're too young you're too young to be nostalgic, right? Because like I was seven years old playing ocarina time on the n64 and pokemon snap And Hi, it's it was easy for me to tell back then that gamecube games were better deeper higher quality Obviously looked way better But the amount of fun I had at like seven eight nine years old playing games on the n64 So I I just got to pick it. It was different But gamecube Well, I like I grew up the weasel. I didn't really have like an emotional attachment to either one of those We totally makes sense like yeah, that's the right answer is to pick the gamecube Yeah, you know, I mean the right answer is to pick a we that can play gamecube games Yeah, how do you feel about me? Where did we're like how would you how would you rank we? I I like the we is kind of my favorite console of all time I know it's But it's nostalgia. Like I know it's not great, but it's just like that's just It's hard for me to say it's bad That's got a lot of good games. I guess for me like the gamecube had third party games, too Like there was Resident Evil 4. I mean brown obviously we had we got call of duty It was bad. Oh, we got it It was not bad. Whoa now There were a lot of shooting games on uh on gamecube as well Hey, that's another example where motion controls were better. Yeah, they were pretty good there The motion wasn't call of duty. So sick I don't know. I know it's like kind of the we isn't great But like I know motion controls Resident Evil 4 Yeah, that was good too. Oh, yeah Was like the best general for shooters was Man motion controls are good for those Super underestimated because a lot of the dude bros are like, oh we used for babies But there's a lot of good shooting games on there Yeah, we used for babies So uh, go get go get your we you and grab your normal dual stick controller. Watch me kick your ass with a wemo And black ops right now I'm not even kidding. I haven't even played the game for go ahead Go grab your dual stick controller. Watch what happens and get someone with a wemo You are black ops or black ops too black ops too They they had to literally step out the lobbies because of how bad it was how much dual stick controller I still play black ops too. Yeah, dude. That's why I have my we still dual stick controllers We're getting murdered by the we mode in that game. They had to separate out the lobbies. That's how bad it was It was like playing it's like taking dual sticks and putting up against mouse and keyboard. You're done Don't even try the conduit Oh, the conduit. I was so wait. What is what is that? I've never heard of that It was this developer that made wanted to make like the halo killer or something like that but for the we and It so it was a game made specifically for the we developed for the we and it was was the game called the conduit Or that was the developer. That's the game. That's the game. Okay the game. It was called It's it's it's it's yeah, it came out. They even got a sequel. Yep, and they're both fire Yep, they're both really good I like I like them the conduit to the way time splitters one and two was those games were fire as well So people that played those back in the day just know people today would be like, oh, they're laying But if you played it back then they were a big deal timing really matters for a lot of these things Yeah, same with the conduit conduit, too. They're both great Hey, you might go back now and play and be like, oh, not so great, but for the time they were they were awesome. Yeah At least yeah, anyways I've never heard of that. It sounds like it was awesome and like I I pay attention to like hidden gems and stuff I'm surprised. Have you heard of that? Josie? I have not at all Eric, had you ever played that? Have you guys heard of that? Right, I know you do right what you like like call of duty and stuff. Hey, hello. Hey, hello. Oh, well, okay There are some good much of a lot of edgy we games that like they're kind of coming back to me now Like you have red steel red steel too. Yeah, I love the world with the sword Yeah, and red steel too is so much better You felt like a samurai just slashing stuff because it was almost like an on-rails shooter with the sword Yep, a little bit. Yeah, and then red still too have actually made it more accurate and it was yes One was not one was like one was like a tech demo. One was a tech too great. Yeah Played on we guys a lot of those like Like edgy or we games like because I grew up with the way I had it when I was like five, right? So like when I was a kid so like It was uh, it was very different But every time people talk about these like really edgy we games. I'm like, oh I have to I have to play them because Because I I have like the nostalgia to like the we and like the motion controls So then I'm like actually really good games would be great to play. Yeah, but you know what I like about we I know this is we're so off topic at this point, but I don't want to love No one talks shit about we sports No, we sports is awesome, right? That's the best game. We talk shit about we sports. You're showing your ignorance Yeah, it is so especially I mean at the time it was revolutionary, but like even today It is My it is just so fun. You don't even know you're too telling what sports I love switch sports. Yeah, switch force is pretty good, too. Yeah, I bought it and never played it Yeah, switch force is pretty good too. It's forever I mean to be honest with my dad because we used to play we sports and stuff So I bought like to play with him And like I brought it over and set it up and like brought my switch dock and everything and then like It was an extra switch dox so I and I never played it and it's still just like set up like that I did the same thing except for me it worked out I got switched for it's not for myself, but for my dad because we used to play we sports a lot together And he had like it was like the best gift I've ever gotten Yeah, same idea. I like it a lot I love in the chat with like one of our monitors gnats is like we sports could create world peace I swear. I don't know man. You get in a tennis match. It gets intense I'm going to just tell you right now a tennis match. There ain't no peace at the end of that tennis match Especially if you let go of the controller and break. Oh, yeah, you break the tv then you're why I'd use the traps Oh my god, my brother broke his thumb doing that Well, because like I don't we were playing with it and there was like this that we had this bench and like I was playing against him. I was whooping him and then His like hand like went all because he was like hitting with crazy force And so his hand his thumb like smacked the table super hard and it broke Oh, it was crazy. This is why I got it outside It was funny because with we sports like my whole generation loves it and like when I came back for For winter break to like see my parents and everything a bunch of my friends were back and literally like two nights ago Everyone was like we like we just literally went and played we for like three hours. It was really funny What did you wait you this was a couple days ago? Yeah, we played switch sports Or not switch sports. We sports and yeah, but you know, we sports is fun Because I've got kids, right? I got kids at age 8 10 and 13 And they they didn't grow up with me, right? And my sister has it when we go to her house every time They try we sports for the first time ever. They didn't care that it was blurry. They didn't care about any of that They had so much fun Yeah, and I like it's a transcending game. It just clicks Yeah, like none of my friends really hear our gamers and but my one friend still has a we and we all went over and It's just so intuitive. It's pretty nice yeah Revolutionary how about switch about a switchboard not we sports resort Oh, I love we sports resort. I don't think it's like the same like Iconic kick. Yeah, but it's good. Yeah, but it's fun Our perfect mix of the original sports that you want like Nintendo switch sports is great But people will always go out to we sports instead because they feel like the mix of sports was better I can't believe they didn't put boxing in switch sports. It was like that was crazy to me. Yeah yeah Like look the katana thing's cool, but I barely see anyone ever care to play the katana game and hey by the way Um, Nate, I'm pretty sure we had a debate once and you're like, I don't think switch sports is gonna sell sell one I was like not it is it's gonna sell all over time and what has happened It has sold over time hasn't it It sold all right I mean, I was talking about I was talking about doing we sports resort numbers, which is 30 million plus and it's not that Well, yeah, but I we definitely like the death plane didn't disagree on that I don't I well, I don't remember where we saw but that's what I was thinking about selling well because I was looking at franchise history By the way, it's sold over 10.7 million, which is pretty impressive. I thought it sold over 15 million Maybe oh, well, maybe this is old data. I just saw wiki bait. I don't know. Yeah. I can't remember I thought it sold over 15 Someone in the chat probably I I feel like there was an announcement, but I could be wrong It may continue to make it to that point Switch sports sold over 10 Yeah Wow, that's crazy As of Nintendo's most recent financial report on September 30th. Okay. Yeah, but I was thinking of a different game. Okay One of the crazier about that though. It's only the 19th best selling switch game at 10.77 million Yeah, well, I mean look switch is selling. Did you say the 19th best? Yeah Do you know that memory or do you look it up? I had what game there's a list Yeah, the list is out there He's always so impressed with under the memories that way I gotta check Wait, did you actually know what was the 19th? That's insane if you just have my memories No He might now though. See like three podcasts from now. He'll recall that it's the 19th best Well, the other thing is I know these things change, right? So like some things I throw out Well, I mean and the best selling changes every new financial report. Yeah um So for tears of the kingdom what the topic really was about Um, is that pretty much I mean it's been happening honestly all summer But really since tears of the kingdom didn't win game of the year at the game awards Um, and we do have go to awards going out like it has won some game of the years to be clear There's like 26 or 27 different websites Maybe 30 now that I've given a game of the year But there's 50 plus that I've given Baldur's gate game of the year. Oh, are you gonna wear your uh, your Celtics? Yeah, what's what the hell I told you I would order it when my paycheck comes. That's next week Oh Yeah, that's true. He wants to know because he had he won a double bet against me So it's going to be you guys want to tune into that episode Here is your channel to jake eventually Because I want to escalate I I did say I did jake wrote on of jake what it took the bet the channel bet he probably wouldn't fire me I don't think He might Your channel is you like what am I gonna do? You know what I mean fire me. Yeah That's why I said If I embarrass him enough with his girl he could just end my career it's over Yeah No, I know you even if I caused him and whoever this girl is to not work I still don't think he'd be like, yeah, fuck you and your kids. You're out. Oh, thanks Honestly, honestly, I was really embarrassed but she's loving it and she's loving seeing I knew she was gonna love it I know dude. It's like I know the way look. I don't know you by the way personally But I have dated a number of women that I knew that we're gonna love it. Anyways, hey, no I just no I just My wife's a model and she has me to marry her and I didn't even want to I've been with the same one for 12 years, but there are just certain things I notice every time I go out that work Like I'll be with friends who are trying to like date women and they'll be more into me before I literally have to like I'm not available It's a personality thing It's just a personality thing. No, I feel confident No, it's a confidence thing. It's true. I don't know what it is I'm a bad ass or no one should like me. I'm an asshole. I'm gonna die young. I've got kids Oh, no one wants a piece of this. By the way, she talked in the chat. I'll see if you can find her I'm not gonna be able to find her. I may have to go through after and see if she's specifically called on who she was Otherwise, I won't know she said hey, I love shit lol Oh, wait, wait, wait. Is that her username? Wayne? Hold on That's not usually don't worry. I'll shut up. It's like it's not it's pretty recent Hey, hey, hey, she could just talk right now You know, we could just end this right now. Just be like, I could talk right now I'm eyeballing jake right in the eye right now. I'm looking right in the eyes That'll let me know. Uh, anyways, no, uh, so the tears of the kingdom thing basically obviously You know ball ballers gated is widely considered the game of the year, which is cool. I was wrong Um, but tears of the kingdom did with some game of the year's award just not the one that we bettered on The interesting part though, isn't really I don't really care about the goatee stuff as much I care about how people are talking about tears of the kingdom now that we are so many months out, you know six months out uh And it seems that Everywhere I go online and maybe this is just a me problem and the live chat can let me know you guys let me know what you see It seems that people are just shitting all over tears of the kingdom Like everywhere I turn it's just being bad mouth. Really? I haven't yeah, and I'm a nintendo youtuber with That's kind of all over twitter Wait, really? Yeah, and every time I make a zelda video all the comments are like, I don't like zelda. How do you like so? I think it's just the cycle for zelda games though. There's just a vocal minority That just is upset about nothing and people are saying this while breath of the wild six months after launch Wasn't happening then So why is it happening now? I I mean they were though. There was a lot of complaints about breath of the wild They're absolutely a launch We've launched a lot of the purists were like No, but it's still happened No, it like I don't know at least in my experience. I wasn't a youtuber yet, but there was a lot All of this is anecdotal, right? Like we don't have quantified Personal experiences. Yeah Right exactly. So it's tough to say like which one was I mean obviously breath of the wild I think it's it's clear that game is is more highly praised But I mean that makes sense. It was it was a big change. It was a big innovation that Like in this to this there's a lot of people that feel Majora's mask is better than ocarina of time But ocarina of time was the more important game Sure, but that is a vocal minority. There is a they're like if you ask, yes Yes, the vocal minority is everyone who played Majora's mask, which is half the amount of people right but I mean I played Majora's mask. I won't say that it's better than ocarina of time I feel like they're two different games. They're just two different experiences. Which one do you think is better? ocarina of time. Okay All right But I say that with with a heavy heart because Majora's mask is freaking sick I don't know how many of you know the story like my personal story my personal story was Majora's mask, but like My birthday is October 29th, which means two days before Halloween. And so when I was Dude my half birthday is October 29th on Eric. When's your birthday? Was that again? October 3rd Anyway, so just October's just remember That when Majora's mask came out was the year 2000, right? This is close to that y2k time There's a lot of people talking about it's the end of the world And you literally have the intent of putting out a game where the moon is coming to destroy the planet Like that's crazy. And then I got Majora's mask for my birthday when I was at a young age where I was very You know very easily influenced and very easily immersed and I got it Like for a Halloween party that was coinciding with my birthday like that was just like A lot of really creepy spooky elements all coming together at the same time And so my experience of Majora's mask. It's like the ideal Halloween game to me. It's just so cool Uh, sorry, I had a I had a shot of a 9 to 7 12 not just because he gave a 20 which makes me do another shot Thank you so much. Uh, but he said shout out to the real Zelda fans who appreciate all the games And don't get butt hurt when the team doesn't give them what they want Exactly. Yeah, but also ocarina of time is better than Majora's mask This is where you throw your drink to the floor I'm so upset right now Oh, I don't have it anymore. I was gonna go grab. I used to have a wooden Majora's mask But I gave it away like four years ago. So it's already gone I think I was gonna go grabbing to wear it the rest of the show I think Majora's mask is is a really really really really good sequel Eric can be skull kid. I need him right now. It's right behind you So it's sitting on the box right there. Like I don't Very different sequels That's maybe a better question to ask what's the better sequel Majora's mask or tears of the kingdom No, Majora's mask is just better than ocarina of time Mmm, is it? Yeah, I make it a better sequel then Because you think breadth of the walls. Oh, I don't know. No Yeah, um, so I think it's a better sequel But I think it's because two I'll give you one major reason I said this six months ago. My opinion hasn't changed. Tears of the kingdom made breath of the wild feel like a tech demo Majora's mask didn't make ocarina of time feel that way Exactly just felt like a different version of ocarina of time It felt I didn't feel like a different version of it to me. It felt like a The the big thing with Majora's mask is one I think all four dungeons and are better than any dungeon in ocarina of time and that is controversial and I know But setting aside the dungeons the way It handled real-time activities and everyone has a purpose and the world felt alive and then on top of that the side quest mattered And To this date it's still one of the only Zelda games where the side quests truly matter I mean, I think it has the best side quest in Zelda history. Right. Yeah, period. Yeah I think Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom have some quests. They kind of yes. Yes get close Yes, but Majora's mask was just so dense like you kind of I kind of want Nintendo to come out with another Zelda game It was a living breathing world It's the only Zelda game that felt that way until breath of the wild in terms of the characters, right? Like I think I think breath of life do a great job of the actual world you explore But Majora's mask did that did it with characters and so lives. They had emotions. They had relationships I want a Zelda game worries concerns a hand reaching out of the toilet to grab your ass And it was always nice Typically, all right. It's not even the only game that made that reference. It was was it skyward sword? Had a toilet hand. Yeah, had a toilet. Clearly it was a call back to Majora's mask But I don't know actually but grabbing but you know, no, no, no Ah, yeah, it's a joke. Okay, you go to sit on the toilet, but there's a hand there It didn't actually grab your ass Just like the milk is actually alcohol, right? But like you don't actually see Link get drunk from it Oh, that's right. The milk bar there are drunk people in there. Yes, they're drunk But Link doesn't get drunk from it and then there's also aliens by the way Majora's mask made aliens cannon I love that scene what You were talking about that last week. Yeah Dude, love it And then, you know, you know, here's the thing. There's been multiple bars. Telma What's up? Thank you so much for not telling me. Are there any bars in Breath of the Wall that you thought there isn't is there There's one one Gruda town Yes, you're right They they got rid of the the drink quest for it in Tears of the Kingdom, but there is a bar technically You just can't get a drink from it in Tears of the Kingdom. There should be different mechanics If like Link is drunk would be so fun Yeah, it should be a status. Yeah And we're seeing this in the chat though like bringing this back around But just out of curiosity to say anyway, it's okay to say Tears of the Kingdom sucks And I want to be very clear here All of our feelings whether it's on the panel and you guys All of your opinions are correct to yourselves Because we all have our own personal preferences and I can recognize that like Tears of the Kingdom might be my favorite game of all time To you might be one of the worst and that's okay We're not all ever going to agree on all of these different things, but Uh, it is fascinating that This is Literally tied for the highest rated reviewed game of the year it is Like just factually one of the best-selling games of the year Can I ask you a question and people just shit on it? I don't know man I just I have one question for you. People shit on fortnight. What's the highest rated game of all time? All right great time Cool Yeah, with like it's 30 reviews congrats small sample size, but very small sample size didn't have as many No more comments How did uh, octane time 3d review again? Did that did that happen to get a 99? You know when there's more outlets reviewing. I'm not very curious You want to know what's gonna become the highest review game of all time though How to how do the nso version of it that one's got reviews out there how that one get Nate, I want you to say it What's gonna become what's going to become the highest review game of all time? Nothing No, hiper responsibly. No, I can't What's coming out? Nick just do it. Just humor me. Hey, you tell my mentor for yeah, you know, I am it's gonna hit 96 But it's not at least At least no, it'll be it'll it's just it's gonna be a 96 Can you imagine though if metric prime 4 is a 96 or above medic critic kind of game? That's gonna be yeah, but it's I I know you want me to hype irresponsibly My only problem is nothing's ever going to be a 99 because it only happened because of the low amount to review Yeah, you have too many sour patches Yeah, when when you know all games now we're going to have 150 plus reviews counted Like it's just you're not going to get to a 99 again But it's a nine. I will say I will say I will say this metric prime 4 has a shot to be the highest rated nintendo exclusive game Alongside the likes of super mario odyssey and breath of the wild Because those were both 97s. Actually, I think my odyssey might have fell to a 96. I have to double check, but um Yeah, like it has a chance remastered a game cube game that was just repurposed 94 94 Yeah But I mean it's the crazy thing about primary master being in 94. I think was that it still holds up That's the thing that that exactly like so imagine like they actually made a new game like Mmm. It's a whole new team though. I'm gonna hold my reservations till it comes out. Yeah, not the same developers You're I know you're right. It can it could go south a little bit, but I'm hoping I have high hopes I got I got I got a lot of hope about your prime four There's all these things like you know, you got special nick out there saying that oh the world's massive and I was like Oh my gosh, are they actually gonna do this? Are they gonna? Are they gonna basically star field this but with real content real content? In the world's Exciting things we'll see fun puzzles All right, I'm sorry. I'm I love Metroid Hey, Andres knows I'm a big metric. I helped found Metroid wiki.org back in the day I'm a huge metric. I'm a bigger Zelda guy and he's and he's a little bit bigger at Metroid than I am But I love Metroid and the prime series is I know I think I heard that josey loves the original Metroid I think it's like Favorite Am I right on that? Oh, yeah That's my most controversial video I remember seeing that like on twitter and stuff. That's like that's like the first time I saw you I think was that opinion. Well, yep. I stand by it Also, I don't like it even more now because of all the crazy people that have like attacked me for it So that's you know what I say about this though. You want to say about this? Um, and I'm just to say it's more to the audience than us. I think as people we know this There's opinions I've had on content creators before I was one That completely changed Because I used to not watch podcasts or anything What I've realized is when you get a content creator on a podcast you see a lot more of who they are And it really helps frame everything they're making on their channel And so it I think it helps people not maybe be as upset as certain content creators when they hold certain opinions If you actually pay attention to the grander content when they're outside of their normal like Oh, I'm making this video. I'm researching this. I'm doing this Because I think people get locked in their heads certain opinions of people And I know that I get to talk to content creators. I get to know them a bit more not just on a show But um, I've just noticed that as I watch other podcasts. I'm starting to Understand the thought process more rather than just judging from my own viewpoint based on oh, I disagree with you I mean yelling the internet Well, I like fully think it's fine if people disagree with that opinion, especially if you grew up with it I'm I brought it up because I disagreed with you and then I saw you on spawncast a few times And I was like, oh, oh this actually all makes it's all coming together I try to be so polite in that video too. I'm like the amount of because I was like, I understand You were very polite game. It's a really good game. And I was like, but You know, I can't play and then I was like The other thing about that is like, why would they have remade it as zero mission if it held up? It doesn't that's why they remade it. That's why they did a new thing And like half the people are like, don't play the original just play play zero mission and and how do you feel about zero mission? I haven't played it actually because I'm waiting for it to come to switch online But I've played every other metroid. Do you are you like kind of like fuck you guys? I don't want to play it now because you guys were kind of big Well, I want to play zero mission because like, oh, sorry. Sorry. I'm giving it clean. Sorry I thought you were giving all right to not be clean. You're good Okay By the way, I got to take some time to dig through the comment. You guys carry the show I got to find her in the channel. No, but so you said you don't feel that way or you do I don't like I want to say hi. That's all I mean, you're an actual metroid fan. You just don't like I do I really like metroid like I love metroid dread and I love fusion and I think I just kind of like the more Not linear style but the less confusing psychotic thing of metro. I'd like how do you feel about dread just like, um, I love dread Okay, huh? Fusion is just like zero mission. That's what I've heard. Yeah, so I think I'll I'll really like zero mission I I want to play it. Um, but I just it's not on I I kind of like to stream those games because I think they're fun games to Like work chat can help me if I ever get lost in uh, is usually why but Like I'm mostly just waiting for that but I played I think every other 2d metroid Yeah, and I really like all of them except For the first one and I I have some issues with super but I I think it's a good game for what it is So I love metroid genuinely and so I think it's funny when people like are like gosh, she doesn't understand I'm like, no, I get it. I get why this is a good game. I appreciate that you guys like it It's just not my type of thing that and that's good because that was my takeaway is that you were respecting the opinions of others but also like Mmm, you know, like I respect the opinion, but then I was like, uh, but In my opinion, it's kind of that's what started getting me mad And then I was like, I don't say anything right because you know, I'm a content creator now So I'm not gonna say anything start any drama But then I started watching as I got to watch you on like spawncast and other stuff and After show sometimes I was like, you know what I get it Like it's hard for me because I grew up with this stuff and trying to understand like a more younger generation perspective that I'm just not used to Well, like that game came out That was one thing that's like I got a wrong going. Hey, she's not shitting on Metroid. It's just this one game She thinks in particular could have been better than what it really is and what people act like. It's not a big deal And I think Metroid's bad game for its time No, I think at its time it was probably great But now I can't play it like I think it's bad Like I think that can be said for most NES games Free Metroid had is so happy that we're talking Metroid. Yeah, you had to throw another 10 bucks Just to say it's great play and it's his second favorite 2d metroid game I've heard Yeah, zero much and I think you're gonna really like once you finally play it Yeah Like a lot of the games that I talk about that I sort of criticize when I do my like retro review things I like Understand that they are great and I know that they were great for their time and I'm sure that if I Am like 50 now and I played that when I was a kid. I'd love it But since I'm not it's like I don't know Because like like like if you imagine I went from playing dread To the first Metroid exactly I'm laughing. We had a troll in the chat shitting on switch. It was great That's great dread is so good dread was my favorite game of 2021 Yeah, it's so good and the movement is really good and I went from that to the first Metroid. Yeah, that's pretty jarring I get into a series. I haven't played before I always start from the beginning people are like Oh, you can sometimes they're like you can pick up on the latest one You don't need the story and it's like no, I don't care about the story It's because the gameplay is obviously gonna get better with each entry entry if I if I plan on playing them all I have to start with the first because I never want to give you a greater appreciation And you took like a 30 year step back, right? Well, and I like didn't know if I was gonna be a Metroid person I liked Ori. So I was like, oh, I'll try it because that's where this genre comes from And then when I played dread, I was like, oh, I think I really like Metroid And then I played the first one I was like, maybe I don't like Metroid but then I played the rest of them and I was like, oh, this is great Like I do I do really like the first one's rough if you go back to it after playing a newer one And that was like my perspective on it and I felt like I made that pretty clear on that video but some People still got pretty pissed You can put as many disclaimers as you want you could literally explain like it doesn't matter people are just gonna jump to conclusions and That's just who they are. Yeah Most of it doesn't bother me But I think if they're like a lot of it is like super sexist and that's what I'm like good lord. Come on guys What's the issue what's wrong with being sexy? There's no problem with being sexy. Yeah She said Yeah Say, you know, I'm sexy. I can't take them seriously at that point. No, I don't If there's something wrong with being sexy, let's get Eric Oh, yeah Like even though much that's one of the things like sexist remarks. We don't allow that stuff though. Sorry. I've been working up the We've had it pop up once in a while where some people are just being sexist and it's like, no No, just how it rolls. It's okay. That's not how I go. Dude. I have I have a daughter I have a fiance we have female guests on. Um, there was a time in my life I thought I was female it is what it is like stop it Stop it. I have a lot of questions, but that's that's okay. Yeah, you can have you can have those questions It's okay to question yourself at some point in your life. It's actually a lot more acceptable No, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. That's a little a lot way younger in my life. Um, yeah I'm like, I'm gonna let it go right now. No, it's all right. We can have an open conversation out of someday If we want to make it like a topic someday, but yes. Um, yes, especially like we Honestly, like yes, absolutely Uh, Sammy talks about games for five dollars said I think tears of the kingdom Should have improved more um places that it didn't like dungeons story scaling, etc And it didn't hit like breath of the wild, but it is better It's kind of interesting Like saying that I don't I don't know if I feel the same the same way That breath of the wild is better in some of these ways, but then in the end tears of kingdom was still better I mean I would say that they did improve on the dungeons and they did improve on the story. Yeah, that's a weird thing Yeah, me like I feel like those are obvious things but also You know, if you just hate the tears of the kingdom of story then I mean, they're obviously there's subjectivity here I think I think we need to separate out. So the hate on the story and this is something I've seen Talked about some others to hate that as memories again. I get it fine. You don't like story being told that way Um, but a lot of the hate I see on the story isn't even what the story is it's that it Reaffirmed that the zelda team doesn't care about the timeline and that's like the argument that I see people pissed about Is that oh it retconned or did this or did that when the zelda and then they did interviews afterwards now and said Oh, we don't really care that much about the timeline any other any other game any other Nintendo series There wouldn't be there would be some talk about timeline or retcons, but it wouldn't be that big of a sticking point Yeah, and this and this is just my opinion Tears of the kingdom to me tells the second best story in zelda history scabbard story Yes, you know, I think we agree on something Good, um But here's the thing you have to examine tears of the kingdom and even wrote throw bath of the wildner If you want as the prequel like you got to examine that story as its own thing and stop judging it on this grander scale of the timeline I love timeline theories. They're great, but it shouldn't affect your individual opinion of a story in one game And if you let it affect that Then I think you're kind of missing the boat on what each zelda like how can we keep saying Every zelda game can stand on its own also this story fucking sucks because when you add in 18 other fucking games It doesn't make sense. Okay. Well, then you're not letting it stand on its own You can't think about mario galaxy 2 and how it connects to galaxy one Yeah, it doesn't Not really It's the only the only way to make sense if you just if you just kind of look at the end of galaxy one And how there's like a birth of a new galaxy Think of it as like it's just a restart to the timeline. That's the only way it makes sense I honestly, I think the nintendo series that kind of has the Strongest timeline is metroid. Yeah, metroid's got very strong Yeah continuation of story and everything. I don't think it's necessarily perfect I don't remember the exact things, but yeah, there's there's some issues here and there It's like where they didn't think about it when you care more and then try to Yeah, there's a higher care for following a set story arc Dude, even metroid dread itself they want that leak that was leaked as coming out like 20 years ago Right or 15 whatever and dread is supposed to be the end of that story arc Which should mean something else starts after it, but we don't know They knew they wanted to do we don't know if prime four is the end Imagine just start calling the game samus instead of metroid No, they wouldn't if no, they shouldn't but That's like if they don't call the switch to switch to They got to use the branding. Yeah, but most people think they won't Yeah, I'm gonna tell you Think they won't call it switch to jose, what do you think I'm dropping a poll right now? Um, I don't think it's gonna be called the switch too, but I think it's gonna have the same branding I can see like super switch or something weird, but I don't think they're gonna do conventional Numbering it's nintendo. They like to get weird Thank you Uh, yeah, it's what he is. I used to be on her side then you you converted me, Nate It happens. I think he converted you well But I disagree reverse reverse conversion reverse psychology. Yeah Even if you go by history, like that that's obviously the right answer Right like history would suggest that there's no way nintendo is gonna is gonna start numbering their systems, but This is also a new nintendo Like they've changed the way a new president a new way of you know It's a singular system now. They've combined their gaming divisions new new marketing campaign Did like they handle themselves very differently now than they used to and so I think there are some things Then we try to make predictions in terms of how they're going to act looking at history could be a little misleading I'm not saying you're wrong. Josie. I'm just simply stating that maybe They're gonna do something a bit unexpected which I just looking for a cobble I think he's I think he's saying you're wrong Yeah, I'm not saying I don't Is the only president this is a we always get on the cliff and then we fall off I don't want to specifically remember andre saying that he thought they were gonna call it the switch too And now that joe's he's like, I don't think so. He's like, no, I'm not sure either. So hold on I don't know when hold on. Hold on. No. No. No. No. I don't let me let me speak to that So first off, I'm not even sure that's true. Um, but We've talked about switch too so much though over the months and like I don't know I can't I can't I don't know but what I can tell you is it has more evidence has continually presented itself My mind has changed and shifted like I'm flexible on this, right? I don't think we're not gonna know and the Nintendo still might not know They may right. I'm not sure how far into their planning. There are right There may be a couple names that they're like, oh, should we call it this or that? They might be doing some testing and polls internally before they come to a conclusion. Um, so I'm not sure but switch to At least people would know what it is It makes sense I just feel like Nintendo does things at a left field all the time and the thing that makes sense Is like we're all like, oh, of course and then Nintendo is going to be like, what do you guys mean? That's never been even a thought process for us and they do like Like everybody was like, oh, Nintendo is doing VR and then they whip out labo like they got to put their own spin on stuff You know what I mean? So it's like I don't I don't know if they'll go the conventional. I'm totally down for them to do it. I'm not gonna This is not a hill. I'm gonna die on because like yeah, yeah, it doesn't really affect me It's the switch to or the super switch or whatever it is. It's fine. Yeah but like my opinion is is just because of furikawa's words about that cliff drop because Nintendo he basically said we reckon I recognize that Nintendo has gotten very high and then dropped off a cliff Going to the next generation and it's happened time and time again And all of that has been doing this whole unique naming Stuff this whole time So I kind of think that he sees that there's a value in the brand and a value and then this is why You know, again when I feel so strong about switch two next year is that switch is selling strongly Release the next system while the switch is still relevant Keep the brand going forward and that too Is look at every successful tech device with multiple versions. They use numbers It's understandable like the the audience knows look at xbox They're sort of different every time and I'll They might lose another next Not a good example of good hardware. No, that's what I'm saying Their names are all different like every time they keep the xbox name But what it's called after that's changed every time and all of it was confused the marketplace Um, and Nintendo kind of tells that too like you could yeah, like So that's a challenge, right? If you don't do a number Um, what names do you give it that clearly tells people that it's a sequel that it's a follow-up That's that's why are you switch? Oh, here we go. Yeah If you have the Nintendo entertainment system and then you have the super nintendo entertainment system Which sold worse than the nintendo entertainment system. It was like the 80s Let me just hear me out. Just hear me out. I'm coming at you with an all of branch. Okay. Yeah Nintendo not just for the switch but for a lot of previous consoles has released like new iterations Like the 3ds and the 3ds excel the new 3ds And the reason why the Wii U failed is because people thought it was just a a reiteration of the Wii And they've already done with the switch switch light switch OLED So if they do a super switch, they'll be like, oh, maybe that's the switch pro or something You know what I mean people and especially parents for like nintendo games Even the super nintendo switch which to older gamers is so obvious and not even older gamers, but like Not obvious to kids And granted kids are going to be watching youtube. They'll know But it's just not quite it's just switch to Everybody knows right away. They don't need any context. They don't need You know what I mean? So that's My train of thought with it. I agree with you. I think it makes so much sense But it makes too much sense because nintendo is a maniac and they're not going to do what makes sense because they don't usually do that I think that you are I guess right on it, but I also think it's just nintendo like you can't predict their stuff No, I mean if there's Very right about that If there's some sort of crazy innovation that may steer what they name the system Um, and so we we may not be privy to that Although I feel like we would have heard about it already and we haven't so maybe not Um, I I do want to ask you one thing josey right because I've thought about super switch before right like I do think it's like a Good idea, but something I've also asked myself is what happens when they want to do a sequel to that Six years from now seven years from now. What do they call it there the super duper switch? That'd be awesome I don't I mean I don't even think it necessarily has to be the super switch. I just I guess my argument here is that I don't know if they do numbers because it makes too much sense So I don't know if it is the super switch. It's too logical for nintendo. It is too logical. I mean they never do Like the smart like even with my friend for they could have called it the ds too, right because it was so successful Same branding and they go 3ds because it does 3d and it's just like half as much as ds But it's just weird. It's like, why would you like? I don't know So i'm not convinced that it would be the super switch But also that same point like haven't we been talking about switch pro for like four years and it's never happened so like Like uh, even if we don't even know if they're gonna release another console They might do the super switch OLED, you know, I mean you talked to nate to hate I do i'm just saying he's pretty confident and he's got the explanation for what happened to switch bro But i'm kind of curious on the It'll be fun to ask nate to hate what he thinks the name is going to be because I don't know if he's ever spoken On what he thinks the name is going to be I don't think he has I don't know. I haven't heard it He might not he might not be privy to that, you know I mean, I think he's not given a name. Yeah, no he hasn't done that Yeah, I don't know I like I mean at the end of the day It's gonna be the new console and the naming doesn't super matter as long as it's not super confusing. We're gonna know. Yeah Yeah, actually there's a good point to be made there because you know like we could we could talk about how the we was a bad idea, but also They were already screwed before the we was even like the we had lost all momentum Well before then right and switch has momentum now, right? So what maybe even if they were let's I they're not gonna do this, right? But if they were to call it switch you I know it's gonna still perform Leagues better than we you did like That's not really a concern. I just had a wild idea an original. I've never heard someone say for this console Because it kind of rhymes with switch But it makes them seem like they're a generation ahead of playstation and xbox The nintendo 6 Oh, here we go Just stop. I'm just trying to be interesting. Okay. Yeah. No, here's the thing you can be interesting because charles shardell for this Bonus topic. We're apparently doing is saying Here's a tip also. Here's a contest most ridiculous switch to name So our own name is ridiculous the flip Here we go Switch to boom mic drop Mic drop. Yes Oh, man. Yes gosh Remember the name I had at the switch nova, but that's actually cool. So I got things like ridiculous I mean it is also ridiculous, but Look, they'd use the word all at the nintendo bait. So they have the bait and switch. There it is. There it is See they got the name of the switch which is technically already a word that's used in the english language You know your light switch as an example So maybe this is going to be called the nintendo counter I still like the nintendo because I know andre's will be a master baiter Hmm, that's true Let's see the see my nintendo counter is it at least at least you like Because it's gonna have a flat top that lets you while you're playing like look at this. You got docked over here I don't I guess I can't show it because it's hooked up But anyways, it'll have a flat top so I can set my drink on top of it while I'm doing my podcast So it's a literal counter And then it's also the counter to the playstation 5 No, I mean it is ridiculous. I like the master baiter better to be honest, but it is what it is It's hard to it's hard to follow that one up guys. Okay. He took the best Just to completely fuck with The very part was like the four seconds of silence The ds switch just to fuck with people No You know what you know what What about this? How about it's not a switch to and they just call it the nintendo stick Ill are you about to make another weird joker? We're not gonna say anything else. It's just a usb drive. Ah, shit. Oh god. They're going chrome stream stick style Oh boy amazon fire stick Sorry, we're gonna be called nintendo switch prime It'll be great for you date Dude, I only got to make one change to my name and I'll own the search rankings. I think I like this Yeah Of course, I don't want to do that I don't want to be like like I like zack from switch force But he tied his name to switch and I'm like nasty I went with nintendo for a reason like nintendo is never going to drop their own company name So we're good. I could just call it switch first two if the nintendo and by the way nintendo does not have a problem With me using the nintendo name. I'm in contact with them about it. I just can't register it as a business Wait, what was the word in the middle switch? What? force which That youtube channel would blow up Yeah, he he blew up He blew up with the switch just because of his name like that brand I mean he does a lot of hard work over there too and he was ghost robo but still Damn I'm gonna end this poll by the way 96 votes in it. It looks like most For a while most people think it won't be called switch too. So you want to know what I voted because I voted in the poll What do you guys think I said? It won't be No, I think you said yes. No, I said no Oh, fuck you. I can't vote in the poll. I legitimately can't it doesn't let me as the creator I don't there there's just something there's just something that force that compelled me to put no like I was like, you know what? They're gonna do something. Yeah, and it's it's not gonna be quite You just want to do The nintendo eb the electric bugaloo There we go Every time I think of eb games that'd be lit if they did that. That'd be so funny Introducing the new nintendo switch deluxe console I could see it. I'd buy it I mean I'm probably gonna buy it All right, then I bought it. All right, you got me. There's nintendo games. We're cool Um, oh, yeah, there's there's also this suggestion from taker 610 Uh, the ferrari love ferrari equals nintendo The nintendo Yeah, that was a really horrible naming job by ferrari. So now it was Oh, but what if they do call it nintendo switch nintendo? Oh my god No It's the nintendo cyber switch. What if they just call it the sequel to the nintendo switch The sequel to the nintendo switch. I'm trying to like think of a way to make it Look the cyber truck's a thing. No one's taking that dirty cyber Here's the thing I does it hold on hold on I'll do you know what cyber ring is josey? Wait, what? Okay, see Okay, okay, you don't know what it is either jake. Okay. Andress. Do you know what cyber ring is? It's a verb. I think I know It's it's an is an old term used in the late 90s early You did with all the women that liked you back in the day On the internet. Yes Wait, what? I Just think of the whole show. I just dated myself Half the chat's gonna know because the average age of my audience is like over 35 So they're gonna know but there's also the part of my chat that's gonna be like Did he just make reference to the cyber truck or like the internet? All right, I'm dying to know what It's having the internet sex talk with another person I can actually so when you're okay, okay, I didn't Jake I walked down to the beach Splashed the water on me and slowly take off my shirt and we please move on. Wow. This is like the after show It was just like sexy when there was no no no see josey But you're gonna find out is the after show is the show I like how you gave me an example instead of just saying that no I I have to give you an example what it was like So the the the worst part though, see that we're not talking on the phone. This is all in text. You you just type it out Yeah, it's just it's just that thing when there was no text messages Fatale ketones like You've been over I think my dad is watching this Is your dad watching your dad probably knows he probably was no no no do not say that do not No Look at what age range is your father and you know what I'm not we are not talking about this actually Let's take it back to tears the king Hey, mr. Woe, you know how normal this used to be on the internet. This was like completely normal growing up And you know Okay, I'm sorry. Hold on time. I'm talking about it. I feel this way in the after show. I can use Every show josey. Have you even been on tiktok? I literally flicked through like five of them and there's an ass cheek bouncing on my screen and we're this is too far Hey, hey Just move on. No, we know this is a social media. It's everywhere. Walk. I don't know what tiktok you're on I get like rabbits and dogs Josie I think it Log out of tiktok and then and then view it. Yeah, like because it tracks the watch and haters it When you first start watching tiktok, it shows you all this crazy shit and you're like, what is going on? So i'm a youtube shorts person I I you know, it's not any better. I'm just This is You know to be fair I've been on I've been on I used to be a beatard back in the day for those who know what that means so Why are you pulling out all this? I don't think No one knows what it is. None of us know what that means. It's a 4chan message board. We'll leave it at that All right mental note to google Funny thing is if anything is if I say something like uh What's another old school one? Oh like rick roll everyone knows what rick rolled was That's from my generation when all this stuff was happening That's Is it rick or josie on my podcast? We just talk about nintendo Josie, what does cap mean to you? You should get you said when you have your podcast on okay cap to me is when You bust the cap I know what that means I've been on a guest hiatus You should you need I'm making pop culture references to my childhood That's what you guys mean normal culture would be great. It was normal It eric and I it literally was not this was normal shit growing up Just like the dude in sweet from dudes wears my car This was a completely normal thing growing up to me cybering that totally like normal thing Everybody knew what it was not everybody did it but they were aware of it Like it's not the funny thing is people talk like look this is how all this stuff things are worse today Things are worse today and i'm being told oh when you're texting a random person giving them your asl you're Oh, man. You're you're you're just a creeper. So now you could just go on tiktok go to the just chatting Watch some woman whipper tits out and that's just normal That literally happened today on twitch Twitch is another beast you can't What twitch is more popular there's more people using it than even the people that use the internet back when I was a kid All right, sit your nine ass down. I'm just saying that like it was normal man. This is normal If rgt was here, he'd just be going and going in with it because he knows of course rgt He's a different animal Because he's actually done things that means on his after show I can derail him a little bit Yeah, you won't be able to derail me. Yeah, no, no, that's not possible Because how do you hold on how do you derail him? I'm just curious just bring up random wrestlers Yeah, that checks that checks or like I say something controversial Yeah, that checks nothing you have said so far to me is that controversial so Well The most controversial one now writing the cue cards and putting them up. Um All right, walk us on dude. This is like that christmas movie. What's it called love actually is that it Love or he's like it's the dude from walking dad. He's like holding the cards and he Know the funny thing is half the stuff I was saying if you read the chat people were just like, oh, yeah I remember what that is. Oh, yeah Like we grew up with it. It was part of our childhood. I'm just aging myself I'm sorry. I just like to make fun of Nate. I'm not trying to make fun of you That's okay. Everyone makes fun of me. See, this is why we'll never be a million subscriber channel, by the way This this is literally the reason All right No, I you know what maybe there's enough people in that crowd. Maybe I Did he spend some real time on it, uh, let's go to the q&a section I'm just a secretly the most entertaining piece. I just want to talk I agree If you will probably like on this research podcast a lot more and I'm just saying this because literally it's zero off topic It's nothing but nintendo talk them start to finish. Well, we tangent like crazy, but it's always challenging in different nintendo directions. Yeah, yeah Sorry if you had an impression of a nintendo podcast not talking nintendo my bad Lately it's just been me doing q&a's, but you know brandon brand last week. I did that I did a debate with uh botox games in backlog banter Rob was supposed to be in there and ruled through against one it was two against you right rob was supposed to be with me But he got stuck at work um And that was hot that was it was it was I mean it was a good it was a good show But I feel like hey rob was with taker six time one of the reference for the corvette zr1 in 2024 Uh We're in the q&a section by by the way guys you guys just do two dollar super chats if you want to get some question is um Jorge ft Bringing it back to nintendo says if I created a timer to be remade Would you like a reimagined version like final fantasy seven remake? Well, would I like it? Yes. Do I expect it? No But I definitely would like it that'd be pretty sex. What would you want them to do different? Like because it's it's significantly different. All right, so I'll start writing the list here. So no, I'm serious I'm gonna shut up. I actually want I'm curious on your opinion on this andres Oh me specifically. Um, so like this is full like Wish mode, right? This is not me being realistic because I don't I think Realistic is visually. Yes reduce load times. Yes Um quality of life updates controllable camera. That's probably what we're what we'll get But in terms of like wish mode a la final fantasy seven remake the When we go into the future, um, we're just giving the light medallion No, I want that to actually be like, oh, you have to prove that you know your new future body now So you're gonna have a trial the trial is a light temple dungeon And at the end of that So they basically throw in a new dungeon when you become an adult when you beat that trial You can actually explore the world afterwards. So that's one thing Put something in the northeastern part of the map of Hyrule because it's completely empty Expand the ice cavern Also, if you go back to the 95 space world, um Of uh, actually was 97 There's an awkward time build that shows a whole bunch of mechanics that weren't in there before I talked about this I think last week, but like so for example Every time you get one of the medallions for the temples that becomes like an energy you can use Um, so like for example dense fire, um That's fire you can just send out in a shockwave Each of the medallions become a shockwave or you can also imbue them into your bow So like that's literally like more like better combat mechanics. They cut out of the game So those are just like some surface level things obviously 60 frames per second 4k because I'm gonna switch to with that dls s magic To add to that I think a lot of those ideas were originally supposed to because remember Ocarina time at one point was supposed to be on the the disk system the 64 dd that they cancelled There yeah, there was there was the right ideas there for sure. Yeah. Yeah Um, also because it's supposedly awkward time causes a three-way timeline split put something in there timeline Yeah, I want both those things sure Yeah, but uh, for different reasons. Yep. Sorry. Keep it clean. No, it's fine Dude, we're so past keeping it clean. I don't know what you're worried about I've already ensured jose never comes back. I took care of that. So cool Um Josie, what do you think do you want it reimagined and what would you do if if so? I think it'd be great. Yeah, if it was reimagined like how final fantasy is Um, I don't know exactly what I would do because I don't think I know the game well enough I'm like I kind of stopped at the water dungeon when I was trying to get through it I have a goal to play through it this year. Um, it's just it's really not very fun for me So I would like them to just like modernize the controls a bit And I really think my issue with it is the controls. So as long as the controls are better I think it'd be great and whatever spice they want to add to it. I love it. I just think it needs to uh To be modernized about a little bit I'd like a cool stylistic art style though, like a not a generic thing. I'd like it to look very I don't know creative cool Yeah, I think there's there's something to that idea about the art style because like obviously what they made it for in 64 so they can only do What what what it was, right? But they had kind of like you look at the concept or like the art for for ocarina time is really cool looking Yeah, it is like imagine imagine they're gonna make make a game like that like that's not realistic, right? But it's also not cel-shaded either. It's something else And so that that would be really nice to see Cool, what do you think jake? I was paying attention Totally busting chat. Just read the super chat. It'll help you out Shut up He's worried about what's happening in his after show. Oh, oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Um I don't want it to be because the thing about ff7 remake is I've talked about this many times. It is not a remake. It is a sequel It is not like it's not like an interpretation or your opinion thing. It is literally Final Fantasy 7 ends Something happens, which I don't want to say a little spoil and then there is a second game that comes out Isn't it crazy? They're basically making two mainline final fantasy series like side by side right now because you have the seven Remake theories and then you still have like Final Fantasy 16 like We wish Nintendo would do that for Zelda Yeah, so maybe maybe the better game to use up is Resident 4 remake because that That has new content in there But it's all very true. It's still true to the original though in a lot of ways But with a lot of new stuff. Yes a lot of new stuff. Yeah See, I think the idea of like when you think Final Fantasy 7 remake Final Fantasy 7 remake is not Final Fantasy 7. You don't really realize it That's the crazy part when you play it because I I just finished I should have talked about that. Why didn't I talk about that last week? I just finished it two weeks ago Um, my first time ever playing Final Fantasy 7. By the way, I never played Final Fantasy 7 But I got to the end and I'm like is that is this what Final Fantasy 7 is like I go I go and I watch a story recap of all this stuff in Final Fantasy 7 and I was like, oh wait a second Um, and in Final Fantasy 7 remake it didn't really confirm its divergence until like Three quarters the way through and then it's stupidly obvious that this is not Final Fantasy 7 It's it kind of reminds me I haven't played I haven't beaten seven remake or the original Final Fantasy. I've played both I haven't beaten either But like the situation kind of reminds me of a fates day night. You guys familiar with the anime series. Yeah I'm aware of it. I've seen a couple episodes for those that don't know fates day night has like several different versions And every each version is like its own like parallel universe where things kind of shake out a little bit differently And so like it may start off very similar But as you watch it it becomes an entirely different show Yeah, that's like what happens to Final Fantasy remake exactly and and if you played the original you might have noticed it even sooner than I did but Um, yeah, it's it's kind of crazy what they did with Final Fantasy 7 remake. Um Eric you got any thoughts on this Didn't play it. Yeah, I'll say you didn't play the original I didn't play either one of them. I know You know, hey, you say that you know something about wind waker and you barely played that I mean, yeah, you sailed the ocean I did I did sail the ocean you pointed a control stick and let it go Yeah, and then phone the rubber band to tie it around the controller. You sure did You sure did not knowing that if you just played a certain song the wind would just take you that way Hey, you didn't tell me. I didn't tell you that you're right I walked away to be a babysitter with my sister. It is what it is Um, all right. Uh, next what we have up is takers excited. Who remembers the ultra 64 arcade cabinets? Wow You know what this is Was um killer instinct was killer instinct one of those I don't know if killer instinct was on ultra 64. Let me let me look I You you might be on that's not the game. I remember from it Okay But but there was definitely an arcade version of killer instinct Yeah, the cruising usa was the one I remember Um, but let me see if there was a killer if there was a killer instinct. Uh, there was a killer instinct arcade I don't know if it was the ultra 64 Cruising usa, I know was that was the one that I Was ultra 64 like n64 like was that like saying to convert n64 games to arcade games? Like is that what that was? Yeah, I'm not seeing Okay, what is it? I might not I might just not know what this is done. No, it's okay He said that most of us most of us back then didn't um really care when you go to the arcade We're not thinking of what's the internal codename name of what the hardware is and what's um But I for some reason I remember cruising usa Uh being specifically on the arcade 64 Um, but yeah, I think killer instinct was its own thing Well, there was killer instinct before the n64 Yeah Let me see hold on hold on this conversation I found a forum thread on it from like the 90s Isn't it crazy seeing old websites from then? No, it doesn't say what games were on it. Okay, so I guess I don't I just talked about the hardware Okay, so I'd like to like read it threads like talking about it, but also not talking about what games So I guess the answer to taker's question is none of us remember Yeah, I to be fair. I remember cruising usa being on one But that's the only one so if there was other games. I'm not I'm not sure of I'm not sure of it And it was only because this arcade I went to the guy who was always there at the ticket booth You know because they always had the ticket games. He was super nerdy He's like dude, you you you love playing on the arcade 64. I'm like, what are you talking about? Who's in usa, man? It's on the arcade 64. I'm like, what the fuck is the arcade 64? There was also cruising world Cruisin world was one too. Yeah Yeah, anyways, um, that's literally the only reason I even heard of it as a kid And even then I still didn't really know what he was with hell. He was talking about um All right, let's see here Diddle says I'm betting five dollars on the name switch up I like it. That's another youtube channel Fair enough. Yeah, it is Who's taking that bet? I bet your switch up would would just agree with you and he'll double down I'll think of him on a show sometime um Let's see here. We got benjamin holiday saying switch equals spank stick. So nintendo spank Love it. At least he didn't say spank bank Right. Yeah, you know, that's that's the rebrand of pokemon bank on there It's the nintendo spank Spank a bank with lick a tongue. Be sure that he's the he's the mascot. Well, I mean, they're what's smash or pass for pokemon So, oh, there was smash or yeah, that was a failure. That wasn't sure there was smash or pass They did lean into that. That is true. You never know what nintendo is going to do But not just seven twelve says forget switch to the nintendo switch will return in a brand new console Oh, like an official statement The nintendo switch will return in a brand new console. Oh boy. Oh lord That does sound like a totally corporate thing nintendo would say That's like very mcu. Yeah Oh nintendo switch ultra No, see that just sounds like it could be the nintendo switch pro it literally ultra and pro are like so similar That's why nothing else makes sense, man. So like Low-key Okay, sorry. I'm reading something uh, benjamin Uh, do you think that the timeline not being important could mean it's more of a multiverse sort of state It's high 84. You're right. I mean it Is all the literally is a multiverse. There's three confirmed timelines So that's literally three parallel universes. You want to start getting into physics or theoretical physics or whatever Yeah, let's let's start getting into it I'm starting into it. Yeah, it could be a really big topic Yeah, I need the deeper exploration. So I I personally think the timeline does matter I mean if you go to nintendo's interviews, they say they do care They do factor it into their equation But it's not the most important factor Like so there are going to be moments where there's going to be some retcons There's going to be some things where you have to be really creative about how things come together But that's kind of how zelva always has been and so My take on a lot of like the negativity about this is that well, I mean, there's there's weird things about breath of the wild There's weird things about twilight princesses weird things like the it's just it's always kind of been that way So, you know I I think if you want if you want to care about the timeline you can but if you don't want to care about it You also can it's the best of both worlds really Some people argue that no, they should make a a concerted committed effort They should hire like professional writers to make this as consistent and continuous as possible Nintendo is not going to do that. But you know They never have I don't think you need to make it like continuous and consistent Yeah, so then isn't that the way it is now then? Yeah, that's fine Yeah, we're on I think we're on the same page Yeah Except for Eric Eric strongly disagrees I I strongly disagree, but I don't want to start the argument. So yeah, well, that's because you know that three against one Oh, no, I think Nate stance is I just glanced at josie and I could tell she's like i'm done with this bullshit What? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding Her dad is watching sir I'm loving it won't Might be uh Mac mega says I wish acronym time would be remade in a Miyamoto original version i.e With the unicorn triforce fountain and being able to use navi to explore dungeons Man, I haven't heard that in a while. That's an opinion There is there is something with uh There's there's a lot of theories about that unicorn triforce fountain thing like in the Zora's domain like there's like this hole that people want to get into if you were like, oh, there's like a secret like Gary in there. There's nothing but There were the theories I just realized if her dad's watching he will ban her from ever coming back It's kind of On that show one more time lady I'm not I'm not a kid so it doesn't really have control like that Well, I look I'm gonna tell you just honest right now. My parents have not supported anything I have done since the moment I turned 18 Oh, dude. Do you don't kind of try to My parents are one. They're wonderful people. They are wonderful people, but they have not supported anything. Yeah Suddenly I'm now a full timer and able to pay my bills and now they think it's cool I don't know something a little weird about that My parents have been very supportive about youtube That's awesome. I'm gonna be very supportive of my kids too. No matter what they want to do with their life As long as it's legal keep it legal See, you know, jakes all about trying to keep it clean. I just keep it legal I want to be a pirate like luffy from one piece. I feel like That's definitely not legal. He wants a wanted poster somewhere. That's all it is. I yeah, I want to be infamous America's most wanted Yep Travel the world are infamous dude. You're the you're the filthiest from the podcast No, eric's the filthiest one just like Jake do you remember last week what got you to stop being clean Was andress andress was the one that literally started going dirty and it we all sat back like what is happening right now The podcast was joseph should have been on last week for two straight hours. It was super clean No bad things just all nintendo talk and then andress is like this doesn't feel right Yeah That made me so happy because It means that you really you like me and you you miss you miss me not keeping it clean It probably just didn't feel right. That was all and andress has been on the He's not denying it. So he's been doing a nintendo right now. He's not denying it Well, andress has been on my podcast a long time He knows that we we've actually had many many clean episodes many of them over the years But and also we've had plenty of episodes where you've been screaming at each other the entire time. Yes And the funny thing is those episodes sometimes are the highest viewership The audience would just be split and they'd start yelling at each other. I'm like, well Well, no the thing is we never actually like are mad at each other. We just we just have It comes off as a passionate about it. Yeah, you just debate them, right? Like he thinks that your primary master looks like shit and I think it's I did not say it looks like shit Right. Oh, that's that's that's me trying to stir the pot a little bit. Yeah, I know. I know Mac mayor comes in and says well, there'll be a jump button Oh, please now for the time we make Oh You gotta you gotta for sure because it's not one of my biggest issues with the the first one or the the automatic Yeah, yeah, if you're redoing everything else Then like the actual like the world you're in is going to be so different You're definitely gonna need a A jump button Yeah, I don't know how you can do that one Today like if you do it Even if it's just a remaster, I don't know how you do it without a jump button anymore Exactly I'm just I know they they got away with it on 3ds. That was 3ds. They would have to I don't I don't I mean, it would be fun to have a jump button. I like I like more options You know what I think is funny if they don't make any hard change or optional No, if they don't make a lot of changes to the game But they had a jump button I think you're gonna find a lot of people wishing it didn't exist and they'd rather have the automatic jump Right, like the thing is you would have to change a lot about the game for it to really make a lot of Yeah, if you just leave it in there people are gonna keep messing up so bad We're talking about like if you want to make a jump button actually a bit useful. We're talking about like Just reading around the structure of the of the dungeons and the maps like Yeah, I mean the maps like it's not I mean, you can make some minor adjustments to ledges, right? Like so we actually have to jump onto them, I guess Um, it wouldn't be you would still have to redesign it but you could still kind of redesign in a way where it's still similar Dungeons would be It would get complicated I was like I was saying yes under the impression that they are making like Redoing everything from the ground up, you know, like if they're just if they're just doing a remaster and they're gonna throw a jump button in there I don't I agree. I don't think I'd do too much. But Yeah, if we're talking Yeah, the automatic jump is already sort of set to like be the perfect distance for the design And and tech Wait, what's it our community time of majority is mess. One of them you could do the the back flip jump Yeah, you can Do them both and both. Yeah. Yeah. So technically there is a manual jump. It's just backwards Yeah, I mean May I mean maybe if what they want to do is that they just it's no longer Auto jump and they just make the auto jump a button press and so what happened Did they just add a new animation where link does like a forward vault Which would be kind of fun You know, maybe they can make it like a fun animation And so it actually makes it harder sort of but it might be more intuitive for people because that's how most games work But to be clear, we all would rather just be remade and so then a jump button just makes sense Yeah Heros being complimented on his shirt He's keeping it classic Is that a cleaning classic? That's what the C means. Oh, there it is. There it is All right. Well, that was the last super chat. So thank you guys so much for that. Um All right, so I We're gonna wrap the show up right there. We'll be back next week with episode 52 I didn't have anyone scheduled besides our core for next week, but we'll see we have Some special guests coming on next month. Uh, one of them is miss click gaming coming on in january And then jake had someone coming on. I forgot her name at the moment Ray anarchy. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. No, wait. No Saffron city Oh, man, this is bad that we don't have this because this is enough So if another guest's coming on next month, either way, and there'll be more guests and we'll try to get josie. Well back on again sometime I'll come welcome back on. Okay. Are you gonna go around? Well, now that she's Spent through the gauntlet So now she's more ready for the expectation of what the show is of course And then next thing, you know, she's on a kit and crista show and it's like why wait Everyone's just being like super professional and calm and what is this who is nintendo prime right now? Anyways We were on the real quick We can tell people who we are where they could find you if our mods want to help out and drop some of the links They're all down in the description as well. Uh, let's start with our first time guest and I guess not last time She just confirmed she'll come back some point. Mm-hmm might be a year, but she'll come back You're no I only no to be fair I only said that because when we did talk behind the scenes Wednesday night availability is not always like a thing so Mm-hmm Yeah Yeah, thank you guys for having me on I appreciate it If you like to me here, I have a youtube channel called josie. Whoa, you can check it out if you'd like I talk about the nintendo switch I uh, I keep it clean over there for the most part so But yeah, thank you guys for having me on seven rgt wins an award He will not so I just want to say this real quick When josie first got here and like people were like josie. Whoa It was you ever seen dude wears my car. He's like, what's my tattoos? Hey, he's like, dude is a good one. Say sweet sweet. Yeah No, like I thought people were like josie. Whoa, like they were like really impressed with excuse here And then I was like, oh wait, oh, I'm sure that's the first time she's ever gotten that ever But dude, I actually thought that for a second I was like, wow, they are hyped like The chat is excited Jake, what do you got going on? Where can they find you? You find me twitter jake randall youtube jake randall only fans two inch destroyer There is There it is. I was waiting. We hadn't had the two inch reference all night. Um, Eric You are whatever you say you are. Where could they find you here? Everyone well most menses most most menses He is the most frequent guest besides myself. I can say that because I have missed an episode now. Yeah Who was cleverly hosted voluntarily by andres restart, which by the way that episode was super clean as well He just runs a nice professional show. That's just what he does. I let it go wild The wild wild west it has many square. I'm just what do you got going on? Where can they find you? Um, yep, that's me I'm andres restart. I talk about nintendo and I'm a little bit more excited than I sound now usually so Yeah, he's hit that point. Um, and we have one last super chat on the night come on and take our 610 Just wanted to mention the switch. Whoa That's it. There it is. That's the one Your channel will explode. You heard a million subscribers like halfway through next year Switch. Whoa. You have to be like my favorite switch. Whoa launch game probably josey. Well, oh jeez. It's over I actually think that'd be a good name. If that happens, I'm convinced that I'm in like the truman show because there's no fucking That would blow my mind Love it. All right, guys. Well, thank you so much for tuning in. We'll catch you same time next week. Maybe a different crew Maybe not. I have no idea. I love you. I just want to say that by that's it A particular person in the chat. He might love a little more You know, I might do that. Well, you know, there's a particular person in the chat today. He might love a little more It is what it is Better guys