 We turn our attention to what's going on in the marketplace, particularly when it comes to security, terrorism, espionage, and sometimes when we're before a court, line on the oaf. Todd Mickelson has this new product called Converis. It's not new to the marketplace, it's been out for about six years. Todd, welcome to this edition of Your Voice, Your Future, and thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. Todd, tell us a little about Converis and how it works with the lie detector, how it may work with COVID-19, and other areas of security as it relates to the world, because it's already being used at other parts of the world and in certain aspects of the federal government here in the United States. Yes, so Converis is a company that produces a next generation lie detector. The product is called IDetect, and unlike a traditional lie detector, IDetect is a computer-based lie detector that analyzes changes in your eyes while you take a short, simple computer-based test, and by analyzing those changes, it can determine with a high degree of accuracy whether or not you're being honest or deceptive about the topic that you're being tested on. I've got to tell you, my HHS correspondent at Amish and I had an opportunity to detect that test, and it was pretty perfect. What's the accuracy in terms of the percentages, Todd? So it is 88 to 90 percent accurate in terms of correctly classifying someone as being honest or deceptive about the topic they were tested on. To put that into perspective with a traditional polygraph, a traditional polygraph ranges between about 78 percent and up to 85 percent accurate. It has a range because with a traditional polygraph, you have a human being that is administering the test and interpreting the results, and with IDetect, the computer administers the test and then uses a computer algorithm to analyze the data that's collected with an eye tracker during the test and scores the results. You also think that IDetect is on the cutting edge for detecting COVID-19, the coronavirus, not only here in the United States, but also for new immigrants coming into the United States. How does that work? Yeah, so an IDetect test can cover really any topic that you can imagine. Prior to COVID-19, and even during COVID-19, it's been used for screening individuals who are going to work in the intelligence community or perhaps law enforcement, where the hiring agency wants to know if these individuals have had issues in the past that would disqualify them for coming to work for the agency. In the case of COVID-19, we have a number of tests that can be used to verify if someone is being truthful about whether or not they have been exposed or whether or not they're coming from a location where there's a hotspot and they could have been exposed. We have a number of governments that are wanting to use it in that situation where someone may be inclined to lie because they know if they're truthful about having been exposed, they may not be granted entrance at that point in time or may have to be quarantined. So talk about the lie detector. What is the turnaround before you get the actual results and also the turnaround for COVID-19? Yeah, so any IDTEC test takes approximately 15 to 30 minutes, depending on the number of topics that you're testing for. During that test, we capture up to a million data points, and that data is analyzed by a computer algorithm in approximately one to two minutes, where a score is generated indicating whether or not the person was deceptive or truthful on the given topics they were tested for. So it's near instantaneous once you finish answering the questions. What are the flaws? So you said 86%. What are the flaws, the 14%, where it's not always accurate? Yeah, so excuse me, the range is 88 to 90%. That means that out of 100 people, if you consider a 90% accuracy, you'll have 10 that it either can't classify or will classify into the wrong categories. So you have a mix of false positives and a mix of false negatives. That's true for any of these technologies where it's trying to analyze from a physiological response whether or not you're being truthful or not. So it's a data point. We don't claim that it's 100%. We have a number of customers that we use IDTEC in conjunction with a separate independent tool such as a polygraph. If you get the same result on the two independent tools, then you have a 99.5% probability or outcome confidence that you got it right. So it's another tool in your tool belt that you can use to help make a decision, but it's not 100%. How does this IDTEC and this other technology that's out there can also assist with social distancing? So the traditional polygraph requires that a number of sensors be attached to the body, a strain gauge that goes across your chest and your abdomen, a pressure cup on your arm, other sensors that get attached to your hand, for example, to detect if you're starting to sweat. Those sensors really require that another individual attach them to the subject, to the examinee. And one of the benefits of IDTEC is it doesn't require those sensors to be attached to your body. A person being tested simply comes in and sits down in front of the computer, sits down in front of the eye tracker. They can click a start button and simply touch a mouse to respond to the questions that are being presented. The mouse can be easily cleaned, excuse me, after the fact. And a test proctor, someone who's just ensuring that the person is following instructions, can actually manage that entire process remotely in a separate room or in a socially distancing compliant way in the same room. Listen, and it's available in most places. Is there a website? Yes, you can go to Converis.com, spelled C-O-N-V-E-R-U-S. How long before you think IDTEC will be in the market, particularly when it comes to COVID-19 and the viruses that seem to be sweeping not only the world, but especially the United States? Well, like I said, we have clients in 45 countries all over the world, including here in the United States that have been using IDTEC during COVID-19 because it can be used in a social distancing compliant way. Some of those organizations are using it for more of our traditional scenarios where they're testing for whether you're lying about your previous activities, whether you have a drug problem, if it's a security clearance, whether you've engaged in activities that would disqualify you from getting that clearance. Some of those governments that do use it for immigration-related situations. So to be able to verify if, for example, your flag is having terrorist ties, whether in fact you do have terrorist ties, and they're just now exploring whether or not it makes sense in certain situations, like I said, to verify if you're coming from a hot spot, if you're not being truthful about where you're coming from. So we have one particular government that is looking at using this because individuals may attempt to enter the United States indirectly through their country. And they're lying about where they're coming from because they're coming from a hot spot that doesn't allow entrance. And so unfortunately, I can't disclose those countries that are doing that, but it's currently in process as we speak. How expensive is the eye detect? So the system itself is a standard computer with a specialized eye-tracking camera. And it sells for approximately $5,000. We charge on a per test basis that is run. And the average cost is in the neighborhood of about $60 for the test itself. Well, listen, I want to congratulate you on your product. We look forward to hear more about it in the future. Thank you so much for joining us for your voice, your future Tahoe. Thank you so much for joining us for this edition of the Armstrong William Show. On behalf of all of us here at WGLA 24-7 in Hollister Holdings, have a blessed day. I'm Armstrong William.