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Go ahead and hit that subscribe button on YouTube or the follow button on Twitch to make sure you're not missing out on this awesome fantasy content that FanDuel is putting out. Guys, it was the first bye week of the season. It was an injury mayhem heading into this week. I felt like this was the first week where every single fantasy player had to say, you know, I was forced to start. No one didn't say that sentence this week, but we've got a lot to cover today. Speaking of which, I was forced to start Jamal Williams this week and I'm not too happy about it. So yeah, there were a lot of force to start. Some of them worked out. Honestly, Jay, you are unlucky because it seems like most of the force to start running backs actually panned out today story of the season. So far, I mean, if we do just look at the running backs that were plug-ins for running backs that got hurt in front of them, it was a very good game. Khalil Herbert with a great game, Damian Williams with a great game. Let's see who else wants a book or a fine game. If you're plugging in, Chuba Hubbard had a good game. So like, yeah, it was it was a fine plug and play running back kind of week. Zero RB. It works. Not plug and play. But guys, before we get into the games that have already happened, the first thing I want to do today is go over the Sunday night football game between the Seattle Seahawks and the Pittsburgh Steelers that we have coming up. So I'm going to go ahead and pull that up on our screen. And we can talk a little bit about what's going on in tonight's Steelers versus Seahawks matchup. Before we do that, though, we got FanDuel in here. And you know what? They are slapping the base with us. Lapping the base. Give it all you got. Give it all you got. Jolo Truglia. Maria's in here says, woo, let's go. And we got Kevin here saying, Bird, what's up, Kev? Welcome in, guys, the Seattle Seahawks first Pittsburgh Steelers matchup tonight. You know, I feel like we've had some sexier Sunday night football matchups recently that people are excited about. But this should still be a decent game. Josh, do you have the line for this game currently? What it's set up? I absolutely do. And the Pittsburgh Steelers are four and a half point favorites on the FanDuel sportsbook. It is a forty three and a half point over under. So not really expecting a ton of scoring. So Steelers, four and a half point favorites before we break down this game, Josh, we'll start with you since you gave us the line. Which side of that line are you taking if you're throwing a bet down on this game? Are you taking Steelers plus four and a half or minus four and a half or Seattle plus? I think the Steelers are going to win this game. I'm concerned about Geno Smith, but I'm not a Steelers fan either. So, you know, I'm probably avoiding this game. I'd rather root for the Seahawks personally. But I think the line, if we're just talking about the line, it's the Steelers for me. J. J. L. Either of you guys have a strong opinion on which side of this line you're landing on. Well, you said giving four points to the Steelers. I'll say, yeah, I'll take plus four. No, minus four, minus four and a half. I'm with Josh. There's no world that I'm trusting Geno Smith in. Yeah. So I think that's the big storyline here with the Seahawks. Russell Wilson on IR, Chris Carson on IR. So we are going to be starting Geno Smith at quarterback. And it's looking like Alex Collins at running back. What are you guys expecting from this, the Steelers offense? Sorry, the Seahawks offense tonight. Alex Collins, is he a plug and play running back, Josh? Yes. So Alex Collins, I want to start him in my fantasy leagues tonight. I do like that. I think they're going to win this game. It's going to be on the back of their running game, even though the Steelers run defense is good and their past defense isn't so good. I just, again, I don't have faith in Geno Smith. I'm a little bit nervous about the past catching options. I'm still starting DK Medcalfe, still probably starting Tyler Lockett. But from a DFS standpoint, I'm nervous because their prices are still pretty high. Pretty high. Oh, what happened there? I had a Simon. Oh, hello, Simon. I didn't click anything. Somebody suddenly wanted to see how handsome I was. Pretty handsome, right, guys? Put it in the comments. How handsome I am. In the comments. Everyone's going to come in like ugly as shit, one out of ten. Hot or not. What would you rather do? Start DJ Dallas or look at me for five seconds. Jay. Um, I'm just kidding, I choose. Yeah, yeah, jail. Yeah, you can have both on the Steelers side of the ball, as far as running Max go. This is a no brainer. You're plugging Najee Harris into your lineup. You're not benching him. Um, I don't know how much more needs to be said about Najee Harris. But where it gets interesting for the Steelers is with their wide receivers this week with Juju Smith, Schuster going out to season ending injury. So Deontay Johnson and Chase are not necessarily season ending. Do we know if it's season ending? It is season ending. Are they expected to be? Yes. Okay, he's out for the whole year. So we've got Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool expected to take a step forward with the wide receiver core being a little bit less deep out there. John Luke, as far as Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool goes, which one of these guys would you prefer to start in your leagues tonight? And what's your general outlook for them going into this game? Oh, it's Deontay Johnson. I think in almost every matchup, it's going to be hard to switch over just to Chase Claypool as the number one option here. He's the clear number two to me. Deontay Johnson is the number one. I'd rather have him in this matchup. It's not a particularly tough matchup. Seahawk secondary hasn't been great, covering wide receivers. So yeah, I would like to start both of these guys in this game. So quick question with Geno Smith at quarterback. This is for everyone. Feel free to jump in. Tyler Lockett or Chase Claypool. Who are you more excited to plug into a lineup tonight? Chase Claypool, for sure. Yeah, Chase Claypool. I think the thing with Claypool was never his talent. It was consistency because of the having JuJu, having Deontay Johnson. We knew Najee Harris was going to command some targets. So I think out of anybody, Claypool is the one who benefits the most from the JuJu injury because it raises his floor. He's always had that ceiling, but he's going to have that safe floor with JuJu, not the game. Man, Claypool is the player that you always get excited plugging in your lineup, no matter what. Now that excitement can be a little bit more justified or feel a little bit safer. He's one of those guys that can just blow up any given week. I'm hoping for a big game from him tonight. I'm excited about Chase Claypool. Joe, I didn't want to add real quick. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. Now, I was just going to say, Josh said he was excited about starting. Well, not excited, but he was fine starting Alex Collins. Yeah. Be honest with you, I really don't want to. I mean, he's he's yet to break over 50 yards. Granted, it was one game that he started so far. But you're basically you're going to get around eight to 10 points unless he's able to fall in the end zone. The only game that he scored 15 points, he got a touchdown. So a desperation play. Yeah, but I'm not looking to force him into my lineups. Yeah, I agree with you there, Jay. I'm not trying to plug him into any DFS lineups this week. But in a season long format, there are way worse options than Alex Collins this week. Oh, you got that. I wish I would have started Alex Collins over. Yes, I was looking at the prices of everyone and Fandals smart. They're Fandals smart. You know, they got DK Medcalf under Deontay Johnson in terms of price makes a lot of sense to me, even though the fantasy points per game here are a little bit different. But and it's got Chase Claypool, more expensive than Tyler Lockett. But Alex Collins has blow all these guys. I don't know. I could I could see a world where you could just win on the back of him actually falling into the end zone. Like you said, how he could be fantasy. So I'm with a water bet going, Josh. Shall we? What's the line? We haven't we haven't actually made out any of our water. How do you guys feel about the setting the line at the projection here on Number Fire, eleven point five five fantasy points? Are you guys comfortable setting that as the line for the water bet? Jay, are you comfortable taking the under on eleven point five twelve? Let's let's say twelve is a push. OK, I'll do that. Well, I'll take that. I'll take that all day. And I'll stay on your side, Jay. We will do a double water bed here. Jail, are you in on it? Sure. OK, double water bed. Josh and Jail versus Jay and Simon. Well, my wife are great here. Josh and I will just we'll film together. We'll bring buckets, beat up, bring buckets and just drench each other. No, we're not going to have to pay it out. If we lose, if we lose, which is very unlikely, extremely unlikely. Extremely unlikely. You should get like it. Yeah, what's the PPR scoring? Just get like a mini pool and just hop in the mini pool. I have one. I have one bucket. I have one for right. We have a rosy pool. There you go. Bring Jane, bring Rosie. We'll baptize Josh. OK, guys, we got that water bet on the records. It is Alex Collins, 12 PPR points. Jay and I have the under. Josh and Jail have the over. If it's 12 exactly, we'll call it a push. But I know Josh and then we will all do it. No, that's not how it works, Jay. I'm taking that one back. No one knows if it's a push. Then everyone else has written for 12 points exactly. If it's 12 points exactly, every single person watching right now has to do a water bet or we quit. I'm just. Oh, guys lost six viewers. Yeah, we're going to move forward a little bit. I'm curious if either of you guys either any of you three have any interest in starting either of these tight ends tonight? Eric Ebron for the Steelers are jailed Everett for the Seahawks. Is there any interest in either of these players? Heck, no. If you had to start, if you had to start one, who would it be? Eric Ebron or Gerald Everett? I mean, Pat Fryer Muth is eating into Eric Ebron's targets. I mean, like he's just as good as an option as Eric Ebron in my mind. So I guess Gerald Everett hoping that Geno Smith is just going to rely on dumping it off to a tight end. Maybe. Yeah, I'm with Josh. Yeah, I agree with you guys. If I if I had to start one of them, it would be Eric Ebron at tight end. And then you run. Oh, sorry, Gerald Everett. Sorry, there we go. I agree with Josh and jail, meaning exactly the opposite of what they said. Completely agree, guys. And then at the quarterback position, Big Ben has had some rough week so far this season. People are saying he's washed. You know, Smith, obviously the backup for Russell Wilson. These guys head to head. It looks like they were projected fairly closely, according to Number Fire. But if you had to start one of these guys and your fan to a line of tonight, single game slate, which one are you picking? Geno Smith or Big Ben? I think in a Fandall lineup, if I'm if I'm building a Fandall lineup, it's including Big Ben and at least one of his receivers, maybe both Chase Clay, Pondy, Ante chance and if you can swing it. But that could get expensive. Maybe throwing a path for Iron Muth. Yeah, I gotta say, I'm building a Fandall lineup. I think I'm going to go, Geno, just for differentiation, because with the wide receivers that he has, you know, if he's able to get a couple touchdowns, you know, he's dirt sheet. How do we have his costs in a Fandall lineup? I just had it up. Let me let me. I got you. I got you. It is 1,400 while Ben's 50 or 14,000 while Ben's 15,000. It's like discount, but not much. That's not too bad. More for the differentiation than anything, because I don't think a lot of people are going to be taking that shot on Geno. So yeah, I feel you there. Give me Ben. Give you Ben. And you know what? I'll take the analysis we need, Dale. I will. I will take Ben just because of the the receiving options and a little bit more trust in him as a quarterback. Like we talk about the Seahawks receiving options, but Josh, I like what you said there about building a lineup out with either Beyonce Johnson to Chase Claypool with Big Ben. That's that's probably the direction I am going as well. Now with no juju, I'd say the receiving options are pretty even. Yeah. Maria in here saying she's holding us all accountable for the waterbed. So Maria is going to make sure we are how it's my board. It's happening. I wrote it down on the board. That's not on the board. That's that's legit. And guys, we are going to go ahead and move on from our Sunday night football game onto our first game of the day that we are going to be talking about the Green Bay Packers versus the Chicago Bears. Green Bay ended up winning this game 2414 over the Justin Fields. Left Chicago Bears. Josh, you let out a as soon as we started talking about this game. You want to let us in on a little bit of what you were thinking there? Yeah, I will. It's Justin Fields. Like it feels like he kind of had a game, but yet they scored 14 points and lost. I guess it was kind of nice to see that he could run a little bit. Seven attempts for 47 yards. That's nice. But it's bad when I'm getting excited that he threw a touchdown and ran for 47 yards. You know, yeah, he did look better in this game. But like you said, then you look at the final score and you're like, wait, that wasn't what I thought I saw on the field out there from Justin Fields. But it does give me faith going forward. It looks like they opened it up for him a little bit more this game. He wasn't there were a couple passes where Alan Robinson or Darnell Mooney was open deep and there was just too much pressure. He couldn't quite get to them. But this was encouraging for me for Justin Fields going forward. I saw things from him this game that I hadn't seen yet this season that make me excited about the potential of Herbert in this Bears offense the rest of the season. I think we could get some really good games from him down the stretch from Justin Fields on that nice to see that Alan Robinson and Darnell Mooney both were pretty involved. Eight targets each Darnell Mooney got the touchdown. So we had a better fantasy game. But yeah, I think that's the most Alan Robinson should have had a touchdown. He was wide open down the field. Oh, my God, I got a question. That's what I'm saying is Alan Robinson the biggest bust in fantasy right now relative to where he was going. If you take any three out of it. Yeah, yeah, I don't get there. I haven't done my ADP value analysis yet. But I think before that, he was he was up there. He was definitely up there as I mean, he was as a top 10 top 12 option. AJ Brown, but again, that's kind of due to injury. Well, honestly, I know he wasn't drafted high, but Ronald Jones has got to be up there as far as big as even relative to running back to Brandon and I, Yook. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm there. But what's up, Jay? Well, I said the homies. Welcome in, Jay. Well, I'm glad to have you here. We're just talking some Packers and Bears right now. But outside of Justin Fields, there was still a lot going on in this game. Josh, I believe you said it during the game. Khalil Herbert just looks like a good running man, not just like he was successful, but that he looked like a good running back. So JL Khalil Herbert coming off the back of 19 carries, 97 yards in a rush touchdown with two receptions on top of that. Are you comfortable plugging Khalil Herbert in as a starter until David Montgomery comes back? Yeah, until David Montgomery comes back or Damian Williams comes back. Or Damian Williams comes. Yeah, Damian Williams comes off the COVID list, which I don't know how long that normally takes. I'm guessing a week or two. Yeah, he'll probably be back next week, if I had to guess. Probably be back next week. So I would I would be a little cautious then. I see how he's used then because he's literally their their last option behind him is Ryan Nall or Tavis Pierce. Now he's the only one that really he's the only one that got attempts today. Yeah, let me guys tell you this. I think even when Damian Williams comes back and you know, I don't I don't know if this is locked in yet. I do want to see how the week plays out. But I think Khalil Herbert's a more talented runner, pure runner than Damian Williams. And I think Damian will still have a role more of a pass catching back. But I think Khalil Herbert could be usable going forward. Now I think I think before this it was more of a 60 40 gaming Williams. I think now with this performance is going to be more of a 60 40 Herbert until Damian Montgomery comes back. So it's not with you. I'm with you. I'm with you, Jeff. I completely. And just so you guys know, two minutes, 30 seconds left in the Cowboys and Patriots, Mac Jones just threw a pick six to. Oh, it's over, huh? Yep. Seven minutes. So was that 2621? Yeah, who caught it? Was it was it digs? I did not number seven was ever number seven. If it was digs, I swear that man, there's something going on in this year. Someone needs to check to make sure he didn't like consult a witch before the day is an interception. My man, Hal Trayvon digs with a man. That man, you know, Maryland, Maryland, Maryland, telling you that just last week, he almost had one of the sickest catches. I'm not even talking about interceptions. He was out. He was just out of bounds, but like it's not a fluke. He's so good. No, he's so good. He played out as a Giants fan as much as it hurts to say this, man. I really think Dallas has a shot this year the way that their defense is playing. We already knew they have the offense. So they look good. Now, their defense does get beat on big place from time to time because I but I think it's like the same reason that digs has all of these picks so far this year. They are playing aggressively in the secondary, taking those jumps, taking those risks. And so there's going to be these big plays against them from time to time. But digs, if they keep playing this way, he's going to keep having, I can't imagine an interception, a game pace the rest of the season. But good God, he's doing it so far. Seven interceptions. Yeah, I was just about to say it. Seven interceptions. Good God, digs, that is absolutely insane. You know, we'll probably talk a little bit more about that. But there's a little bit more in this Green Bay Chicago game. We mentioned the receivers already. Darnell Mooney had the touchdown. Allen Robinson was similarly targeted to Mooney, though. So that was a step in the right direction for Allen Robinson managers, people that have him on their team. Jay, does this game give you any confidence to be plugging Allen Robinson into your lineup going forward? Or is he is he on your bench for further notice? I can't bench him, but I have no confidence. He's got the talent and if they start to use fields a little, you know, better than they have in the past, that honestly, at this point, I'd be more confident with Andy Dalton in for Allen Robinson than I would for field just because, you know, Andy Dalton isn't going to be afraid to sling the ball. It seems like Nagy just doesn't know what to do with with Justin Fields, either he doesn't want to or he's just not building the offense around him. So you can't bench Allen Robinson, but I've got zero confidence. Yeah, you can. You can bench Allen Robinson. Oh, God, you ready? And right before that, Jay, you said something. You said you Matt Nagy just doesn't know what to do. You should just send it there, you know, please tell him. He does not know what he's doing. Hello, Craig. Welcome in, John Luke. You were about to say something. I was a higher target share in this offense through week six in Chicago, Darnell Mooney or Allen Robinson Mooney. The fact that you asked makes me think it's Allen Robinson, but Mooney seems like the obvious answer. I'll say Mooney. And if you're tricking me, you're tricking me. Yeah, you are all correct. Mooney is nine percent compared to Allen Robinson, twenty four point eight percent. And I'm surprised. Going up more recently. So like the his just in the last three games, Darnell Mooney's target share is thirty two point three percent. Wow. So update on the Patriots Cowboys. Seventy five yard touchdown pass to Kendrick Bourne. So the Patriots are now on top. Whoa, this is a game. This is a real game. All right, man, this is wild. This is absolutely wild going on over there. Guys, anything else on the Chicago side before we move over to Green Bay? Any interest in Marquis Godwin with his one reception for 12 yards? Nope. Let's move on. He's so fast. That's it. That's what he's got. And they scored the two point conversions in. Wingland is up twenty nine twenty six with two minutes left. Wow. There we go. It's game. Guys, the running backs on the Green Bay side. Aaron Jones obviously had the better week catching a reception touchdown. But A.J. Dillon saw similar carries to Aaron Jones, eleven carries to Aaron Jones, thirteen. They told us they were going to get A.J. Dillon more involved in this offense going forward. The coaching staff said it and it looks like they're they're standing by that. Josh, does this give you any reason for concern for Aaron? Jones going forward throughout the season or just what you expected? Now, I mean, like, look at my points. He scored nineteen, nineteen fantasy points and a half point PPR league, twenty one and a PPR league. He's just fine. I mean, this has kind of been his whole career. He hasn't he's never gotten the full workload. He was playing carries with Jamal Williams last year and before that. And it's more or less the same with A.J. Dillon. And it really doesn't concern me because Aaron Jones is also getting the targets and receptions last year when Jamal Williams was around. He was the guy getting those receptions and targets. Aaron Jones is just fine. He's a top five running back for me the rest of the season still. Yep. Yep. Josh could not agree more. Completely agree with you. He doesn't need that extreme volume of work that some of their backs need to be that top five running back, which is the second target share leader in this offense compared to Monte Adams, who has six point five percent of the entire offense and coming in here backing up your point jail, four for four receptions. Like he's been targeted pretty heavily over there. And so on that point jail, are there any of these receivers that you're ever plugging into a lineup outside of Devontae Adams, Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb, MBS? Is there is there anybody you're interested in plugging in? No, no, I don't think it's we haven't seen it be any sort of predictable pattern. There's no way to sort of choose which one is going to get a touchdown this week. Yep. Agree with you on that one. Yep. OK, guys, once anybody has anything else, we're going to move on to the game. I know Josh is excited about the Los Angeles Chargers. And you know what, Dale, as well? I forgot, we've got two Ravens fans here. Come on, we're both fans. Come on, we're both fans. The Los Angeles Chargers versus the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens blowing them out 34 to six, just as we all predicted. Josh, even me as a huge Ravens fan, I thought it was going to be a close. Look at all the Ravens games so far this season. It doesn't matter if it's a good team, bad team, that's been close. Thirty four to six. And then we come over here and we look at the fantasy scores for these players and something isn't out enough like like there's you would expect in a 34 point game that Lamar Jackson or Mark Andrews or Hollywood Brown or Latvius Murray would have just a massive game. But all of these guys were honestly, Mark Andrews, you were happy about. But outside of that, you were underwhelmed by almost every other Raven that you put into your lineup this week. Josh, what would happen in this Ravens game to let them win? Thirty four, six. I'll tell you exactly what happened. Look where the touchdowns went. So Levy and Bell got a touchdown. Latvius Murray got a touchdown. Devonta Freeman got a touchdown. They were all rushing touchdowns. So it's not a passing touchdown for Lamar Jackson. Mark Andrews, you're happy with him at the tight end position. But at the same time, I still am not confident starting any of these running backs. Latvius Murray is a plotter, guys. Like he is getting the most carries and he's going to continue. I mean, nine attempts to Devonta Freeman's. Maybe the Ravens are starting to realize it. But he is just not it, in my opinion. You're not going to be able to trust him in fantasy. Yeah, it's a weird game where an offense puts up 34 points and really you're only happy starting the tight end. Like that was it in this offense. But Jail, as far as these running backs go, Josh hit on Latvius Murray a little bit being a plotter. But Devonta Freeman got involved a bit in this offense. Are you interested in Devonta Freeman as a pickup this week after his involvement in this game? I mean, if you're absolutely desperate, then yes. But exactly what Josh said, I think they're, first of all, Ravens running game hasn't looked very good. They haven't been very effective. Second of all, like Josh said, whenever they do have opportunities, it's just looked underwhelming. So as far as all of these guys are concerned, I'm throwing them in in a bi-week emergency start situation and not otherwise. Yep, full agreement there. And Craig says, I bet this Patriots Cowboys game has some fans dueling right now. What do you mean? Woo, woo, woo. Nice shoot. Craig, woo, woo, woo. Jay, I wanted to come to you for this question, though. We talked enough to the Ravens fans already so far. So this was Rashad Bateman's first game back off of IR. I know people are excited to see him. And he was relatively involved. Four receptions, 29 receiving yards, no touchdowns. But a very similar line to Marquis Brown who had four receptions, 35 receiving yards. Do you think it was coincidence that they just had the rushing game going. This game got out big early. But this is the first week Rashad Bateman's back. We got a very disappointing week from Hollywood Brown. Are you nervous about Rashad Bateman eating into Hollywood Brown's workload and this offense from what we've seen so far? No, because Hollywood's going to be the big play guy. We always knew that. But I think it's actually opened some things up for him because Bateman got six targets. So if they can't focus on Hollywood, you got Bateman in there. We always knew this was going to be a tough passing game because that's what San Diego, excuse me, San Diego. That's what the Los Angeles Chargers is. San Diego. Los Angeles Chargers do. They stopped the pass. They allowed the run. We always knew it was going to be that type of game. So I think they're both going to be just fine. I think it's of everybody, even though he didn't have a good game this week. I think Bateman coming in and looking pretty solid is exciting for anybody who rosters Lamar Jackson just to have another option. That Bateman have marked Andrews to have Hollywood. I think that Lamar could go on a tear. And it was just, Lamar was definitely very disappointing this week from a fantasy perspective, but he didn't have to be Lamar Jackson taking over the game. He looked good still. Let me tell you. He still looked good out there. I think he's going to go on a tear and I think he's going to wind up as the QB one overall in fantasy. I love hearing that, Jay. Jay, I loved what you brought up. This game, the Chargers defense in jail, you were talking about it a bit last week as well. They're excellent at sobbing the past specifically to the wide receivers, not as great at targeting the tight end. And we saw it again this week. Mark Andrews, the only option on this team that you were really happy with starting in fantasy, maybe Latavius Murray with the running back graveyard that's going on right now. But Mark Andrews really being the one primary target. And I completely agree with what you're saying about Hollywood Brown. I'm not worried about Bateman's impact on him. If anything, I do think it's a positive. It truly was a coincidence that his first week back fell into a game script that was going to be run heavy from the get-go. Just unfortunate timing for anybody who's nervous about this return of Rashad Bateman's effect on Hollywood Brown. The other side of the- Well, real quick, I gotta say, I think Tyson Williams is droppable now. You know, a healthy scratch again, you know, with the way that these running backs is, nobody's impressed by any means. So for him to be a healthy scratch, they're not going to use them. So I don't know what's going on if he just is the coaching staff doesn't trust him. But at this point, I think he's droppable. Tyson Williams, yeah. Yeah, you can, I completely agree with you there. The other side of this ball though, guys, the Chargers, while we knew the Chargers defense was great against wide receivers, the Baltimore defense has been a little bit exploitable in the secondary so far this year. So I expected this to be a great game for Justin Herbert from a passing perspective, maybe a slightly rougher game for Austin Eckler. It turned out to be a rough game for every single person on the Chargers. Just did not go their way. Do you guys have any concern about this Chargers offense going forward or just a bad game where they got down early? I think you summed it up, Simon. I think it was a bad game where they got down early. Yeah. I mean, there were a couple of drops out there. I expect big things from Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler every week going forward still. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how much more there is to say about this side of the ball in this game. It was disappointing for all Chargers players, but this is a high powered offense. And you're going to see it in weeks to come. This was a horrible game for them. I think it's still... Go ahead, Simon, on the top. I was just going to say, I said it's a Josh during the game today that I really hope we get this rematch in the playoffs. I really would love to see this rematch in the playoffs. I could see this being an AFC championship the way that these two teams are brought. And I think what I was going to say is I think this leaves the by-low window open for Keenan Allen. A lot of people have been disappointed in him. The video I dropped earlier in the week, but he's been top 10 in targets, top 10 in catches. They like to use them in the red zone. So I think Keenan Allen, especially going into the buy, the way that he still had over double-digit points every week. So he's been putting up wide receiver two numbers. I think the way this offense is looked, he could still put up wide receiver one numbers, top 10 numbers. I think he's a perfect buy-low go to try to see if you can make a trade for Keenan Allen. Buy Keenan Allen, period. There it is, there you go. Completely agree with you guys there. We are going to go ahead and move on to our next game though. Jay, you are probably less excited to talk about this one than Josh and JL were excited to talk about the Ravens game. This is the Rams versus Giants 38 to 11 in this one. The Rams running away with it. And we were nervous about Daniel Jones getting to start and he did get to start, but it didn't do much for the Giants. So Jay, this game, was this just the offense completely outmatched by the defense they were going up against? Or was Daniel Jones not ready to go? I think a little bit of both, but this defense is one of the best in the entire league. Aaron Donald is a absolute monster and our makeshift offensive line couldn't stop him. And then Kaderi Stoney looked great. He made some ridiculous moves, breaking ankles out there and then he got hurt again. And then you take, he's basically been our only playmaker without Saquon Barkley. He's been the only guy doing anything big, playmaker-wise from a wide receiver position and he was hurt and left in the first quarter. So without Kaderi Stoney out there, we were basically left with Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph and excuse me, Dante Pettis. Sterling Shepard had a great game. Pettis. Yeah, but it's, I mean, if it takes you 10 receptions to get 70 yards, like, is that a great game? Like, yeah, from a PPR perspective, sure, but. Yeah. Yeah. And we're about to talk about Jaylen Waddle a little bit later. And he had a very similar kind of stat line. So I understand it's like, that's just like the way he thrives though, I guess. I'm sorry, I digress. Yeah, no, I agree with what you said there, Jay. When Kaderi Stoney went out, I feel like it really, not that the Giants were going to win this game, but I think they would have been in this a little bit more with Kaderi Stoney on the field. It seemed to have a major effect on this offense, which if you are a Kaderi Stoney manager in your fantasy leagues, that is a, you're sad that he's injured, but the effect that he has on this offense is a positive sign for his future outlook. He's going to be difficult to get off the field if that's the effect that he brings to this offense as a whole. The running backs we talked a little bit about at the beginning of the show. This was the running back from hell week. There were so many injuries, buys. So you had to plug in what you could where you could. And Devante Booker was one of those plug-and-play running backs this week, with Saquon Barkley out injured. Now, Josh, you did mention he was the most disappointing of these plug-and-play running backs, but 12 carries, 41 yards, four receptions for 28 yards in a game where they only scored 11 points is actually fine for me. I feel comfortable seeing how he was used, plugging him in next week into my lineups if Saquon Barkley's still out. I don't have any qualms about it. Josh, how do you feel about Devante Booker going into next week? Summed it up, Simon. Like, they were down. They were down the entire game. They were never really competitive. The Rams were destroying them and they're still giving Booker 12 carries. So, yes, when they're in a more competitive game script, Booker's going to be more involved. So, you should be pleased getting this stat line from Booker without this game lead. So, yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised, I guess. Completely agree with you guys. Anything else on this giant side of the ball? Jay, what come to you? Anything else you wanted to hit on this giant side? I look forward to the Giants having a top 10 pick next year. You guys, on the Rams side of this ball, return of the cup, he came back. And you know what, Woods had a damn good game, too. So, it worked out for both of those players if you were starting them. And I say Woods had a damn good game. He had a touchdown. He worked out in his favor. It was fine. But he didn't skunk you like he had some of these other weeks. Sorry, go ahead. But I will say Matthew Stafford, man, he just looks great. Like, I mean, he's got to be top five in MVP voting. Like, yeah, I'm impressed with Matt Stafford. I expected pretty good things because I think he's a huge upgrade over Jared Golf and the Rams gave up a lot to get him. But, yeah, it was worth it. It was worth it. Josh, you would be a huge upgrade over Jared Golf. Let's be honest. I don't know if I can start for the Detroit Lions. The entire game. Dan Campbell did say in the post-game press conference that Jared Golf needed to step up more than he has so far. Did he really? After crying last week, he's like now taking like the ad cop approach. Good cop, bad cop. Just wait till next week. He's going to be sobbing. He's going to be sobbing into a towel. But also angry at the same time. He's going to be mascara running down his face in his post-game press conference. I love him. I'm just disappointed. But you're starting Cooper Cup every single week. Robert Woods, JL, how comfortable are you with plugging in Robert Woods into your lineup week in, week out at this point in the season? It's been a bit all over the place. I'm pretty comfortable. He's still the number two option in my mind in that offense. You're not going to have games like you had last week every week in fantasy. I don't think anyone was predicting that going forward. This is fine. He's the second most targeted on this offense just this week, tied with Tyler Higbee. And as long as he's still number two to Cooper Cup, then he's going to be probably viable to start. Because like Josh said, Matthew Stafford has looked fantastic. Yeah, I agree with you guys there. And then the only other thing I really think we need to be talking about on this offense is the running back. Daryl Henderson had himself another game. Now, they were up big. So it makes sense that they ran him a lot. But 21 carries, 78 yards and a rushing touchdown. And then a receiving touchdown on top of that. You're starting them every single week. He's a plug and play running back. You need to start Daryl Henderson. I think the thing with Robert Woods is getting such a big share. No, no, Daryl, they're just getting such a big share of the carries together. Rest of season. They have a great schedule for running back for this season as well. Yep, 100%. Where do you guys put him rest of season? If you had to rank running backs in a PPR format, is he a top 10, a top 20, top five? Where are you putting Daryl Henderson? Hold on. He's top 10, for sure. I'm just trying. I'm looking at him. He's top 10. He's top 10 for me. I like him over Antonio Gibson, over James Robinson, over Nick Chubb. Over Kareem Hunt now. Over Kareem Hunt, yeah. I can't put him over Nick Chubb. I can't do that. Yeah, I mean, let's see how bad Kareem Hunt's injury is, because it looked like he got pretty hurt. And if Nick Chubb's the only running back there, he's going to eat. Yeah, yeah. I probably put Daryl Henderson running back eight or nine on the season. Yeah, I probably put him right at 10, myself. So we were talking about big busts earlier, but now we are talking about. Well, let's see if we're starting with the show. All right, Josh, you want to host? So Daryl Henderson is the opposite of a big bust, is what I was saying. He seems like he was a bit of a value in drafts. I hate big busts, and I cannot lie. But man, do I love the opposite. I hate you guys. We're going to move on to the next game before I say big bust. Real quick, I wanted to say, too, when we talk about Robert Woods and Cup. You have to be able to update your expectations for players based on new information. So it's not like Robert Woods isn't good, but he's not that borderline wide receiver one anymore. He's firmly a solid wide receiver two, where Cup is the wide receiver one option in this offense. Yeah, fully agree with that. I think Cup would, excuse me, Woods will be solid, but he doesn't have that upside that many people thought he did. I'm right there with you, Jeff. You know? Yeah, I'm completely agree with you guys. Sorry, go ahead, Josh. He's not a big bust, but other than that, he should be fine with us. Robert Woods started the season looking like he was going to be a big bust, and then he came around and said, uh-uh-uh. He's just going to be a tiny four, yeah. It's just a little bust. Guys, we're going to move on to this very exciting game, the Indianapolis Colts versus the Houston Texans. The Colts winning it 31 to three, and Jonathan Taylor having himself a great game. But still, it feels like the Colts aren't using him enough, even in this game, where he absolutely showed up. 14 carries, 145 yards, two rushing touches on one reception, for 13 receiving yards, for a total of 28.3 fantasy points in fan duel scoring. Jonathan Taylor or Darryl Henderson, rest of season. Josh. Ooh, you're going to make me answer that? You're going to make me answer that? Yeah, so that's the line. I think Jonathan Taylor's probably nine for me, the ninth overall running back the rest of the season, while Darryl Henderson's 10. So I'll still take Jonathan Taylor, but I like Darryl Henderson's involvement a lot more, like you said. It's Taylor for me, and it's not even close. I just think that the talent level is so much higher for Taylor, and he's got, they both have really good offensive lines, but, you know, in Los Angeles, this offense is a passing offense first. So that's not going to be the case necessarily in Indianapolis. So I feel like Taylor's going to get a little bit more opportunities. I think they're, like you said, they're neck and neck, but for me, the way that they've used Taylor these past two weeks, you know, it looked like Hines was going to be really involved early on in the season, and that just hasn't been the case. It's been the Jonathan Taylor show here recently. So. I think you're dumb, Jay. I think you're dumb. I love you too. Oh! I'm going to take the hard road, and I think you're very smart, Josh. I'm completely joking. But if I am going to talk about the opposite side of this, you're correct. It is more of a passing offense in LA, and Daryl Henderson's more involved in the passing game than Jonathan Taylor, I would say, right? Yeah, he might give you that. And, you know, that reception is a speciality. It's really splitting hairs at this point. I think anybody would be perfectly happy with either one of these guys, but for me. I just wanted to fight you. That's fine. Let's go. I mean, I'm ready to throw down infisticuffs if we need to. Let's go ahead, man. So Jay, I'll beat the tiebreaker. If you're right now, you're drafting right now. Taylor and Henderson is on the board for the rest of the season. Are you taking? I'm taking Taylor, but it's by... No, that's it. It's by a very tiny margin and they're going back to back. All right, I've switched my answer. You know, I said Jonathan Taylor is ahead of Daryl Henderson. No, you didn't. He did not. He did, because I agree with Josh. I said he was in nine and 10. Oh, so Josh and I went and Jay L said Henderson. Exactly. Yeah, get out of here, Jay L. Oh, what the hell? No, I said Jonathan Taylor. Now, real fast, Jonathan Taylor's usage might not have looked fantastic. 14 carries, one reception. And this is to your point, Jay. There was a lot of big plays that happened in this game. Paris Campbell called a 51-yard touchdown. T.Y. Hilton had a bomb of almost a touchdown. There was a lot of big plays and the Colts were up and they just didn't need to run Jonathan Taylor in order to actually win. Yeah, I gotta say two. Carson Wentz is really impressed. He's been a rock solid in a super flex league. I think you could do much worse than Carson Wentz as your QB2. I think he doesn't necessarily have a huge upside, but he's always been a guy when he's able to have time and thought the Colts have one of the best offensive lines in the league. He's consistently, I mean, how many weeks in a row? He did have one really bad week. It was a week three, I think it was. But he's been, the past couple of weeks, he's put up solid numbers, two touchdowns. Not great by any means, but in a super flex league, I'd be perfectly fine as once is my QB2. I really like him more as a QB3, but let me see. QB2 is fine. And I think really like one of the biggest storylines from the Colts side of the football that we kind of have to mention here is that Michael Pippen with only two receptions for 35 yards, he has looked fantastic. He did have a sick catch during this game. It was awesome. He looked good when he got the targets, but he got one rushing attempt, which is cool, but T.Y. Hilton was back this game. Gotta be concerned for Michael Pippen going forward because he looked like he could be a starting wide receiver for your fantasy team going forward. And now I'm a little worried. A little worried. I wouldn't be too concerned and the only reason is they only threw the ball 20 times. So yeah, it's still not that bad. I do think that he probably has a little lower floor. He's not quite as safe as he has been, but I still think he's got that upside. I still think at this point in his career T.Y. Hilton isn't what he used to be. Pippen's the most explosive receiver on this team. So he's the guy. I do agree with you. I'm not as comfortable starting him as I was, but I still think he's got the upside. Now, do you guys have a comfort level with starting T.Y. Hilton? Because if you remember like preseason, camp, Carson Wentz loved T.Y. Hilton. There were all the reports coming out about their connection in this offense before T.Y. Hilton's injury. I am, I have some interest in making sure T.Y. Hilton's on the backside of my benches to see if this game was a precursor of things to come. Like he's a player I am heavily targeting on the waiver wire this week. Like you guys said, I have more faith in Pittman going forward, but I don't want to completely discredit T.Y. Hilton. Yes, he's old, but Carson Wentz and T.Y. Hilton had a real connection before that injury that I am interested to see if there's something there. So if you're in a fantasy league and you have some available space for a player that you can drop, T.Y. Hilton's a player that I want to add. I want to add to my bench. Yep, adding him and starting him are definitely two different things here. And I'm willing to add them. Definitely don't want to start them next week. I don't even want to waste. I mean, honestly, what's the upside with T.Y. Hilton at this point in his career? Four catches for 80 yards, I don't know. Right, I mean, it depends on the league of course, but honestly, I don't have much of an interest in T.Y. Hilton. I'd rather look for, I'd rather roster a high upside backup running back or something like that versus I just feel like at this point in his career, this isn't some high-flying passing offense. I just really personally don't want any part of T.Y. Hilton. I think I know him. I think I'm slightly on your side, yeah. Love you, Simon, but that's just my take. I feel yeah. I have no ill will about that take, but I am curious to see his involvement in this offense. I don't want to discredit that early preseason connection that he had with Carson Wentz. Fan duo said, rabble rousing is always welcome. That goes for you in the chat as well. Rabble rouse away. Rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble, rabble. And Joey, I am going to, I hate you for saying this, and Carson Wentz shovel passes are my love language. Carson Wentz shovel passes are the bane of my existence. They make me stress out so heavily. It's the fourth time I've heard this rant in like six days. I hate shovel passes. I hate shovel passes so much. Before we move on to the Houston Texan side of this ball and all of the interesting storylines we have to talk about over there. Yeah, it's going to take five seconds. Moe Alley Cox had a touchdown catch in this game. Given the state of tight end and the tight end landscape, is there any interest in Moe Alley Cox and your starting lineups going forward as a tight end or none at all? Hell no. No, no thanks. Get them out of here. No, none at all. 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You're a close fit. You could have beat us, maybe. Close fifth, close fifth. For the Houston Texans Braining Clubs, we can move on. Marking Room, running back one, the rest of the season, right? I mean, 18 carries. He's actually Dynasty Wide Receiver one. Dynasty Wide Receiver one. Marking Room, he is number one emergency plug-in to your lineup if you have to running back. Like, if everything else has failed, it's Sunday morning, a late injury, you got to find someone to plug in. He's probably on your waiver wire and you can probably plug him in and he'll get you eight to 12 points. He's just getting the ball. He's not doing very much with it, but he's just getting the ball. If he falls into the end zone, go ahead, Josh, I'm sorry. All the running backs out with 50 carries, he's got to be the most inefficient. Like, I just, I have to do efficient. I'm like, he's got to be. I'm just guessing, but he's got to be. You're basically, like Simon said, you're going to get eight to 12 points. If he falls in the end zone, maybe 15-ish. Like, that's it. And I think there's anybody who had any sort of confidence in Davis Mills after last week. Yeah. Yeah, get it out of here. 43 pass attempts for Davis Mills, though. They're letting them chuck the ball around. This is going to be a roller coaster of a season for him because Houston's going to be down a lot. They're going to let him throw the ball if he's in there long-term. And then you're going to get great games, like we saw last week. You're going to get really rough games, like we saw this week, because you know what? Davis Mills is a average rookie quarterback. It's going to be all over the place. That's the nicest thing anybody's ever said about Davis Mills. Average rookie quarterback. You know what? They're letting them throw the ball more than a lot of these other teams are with their rookie quarterbacks, though. So the upside is there, but the downside is also unbelievably prevalent for this quarterback. But Jay, whenever we clicked on the Houston Texans, you said Brandon Cooks, that's it. Move on. Why is Brandon Cooks the only thing we need to talk about here? And then, you know, we will move on to our next game. Well, like you said, because he's struck an O, and the Cowboys just won the game on a down pass to CD-Lam. But Brandon Cooks is the only guy I would have any interest starting right now. I will say, I do like Nico Collins. You know, he's coming back. He just came off IR. He is somebody I wouldn't mind stashing me at the end. Over to you, I help him. Yes. Without a question. Like the way, you know, he's his age. I liked him out of Michigan. If they are going to let Davis Mills chuck the ball, that's the thing. That's why I like Brandon Cooks. He's the best wide receiver on this team. Nico Collins could definitely get involved as well. So right now, Brandon Cooks the only guy I feel comfortable, but I don't mind Nico as a bench dash. And Craig coming in said, Davis Mills was a highly recruited college player. So I'm sure nicer things have been said about him. Thank you, Dave. Standing up for our boy, Davis Mills. He needs someone in his corner. Guys, guys, a little, little fun trivia, fun, fun trivia for you. No, JL is the trivia guy. Sorry. I just fact checked my thing before, out of all the running backs, Mark Ingram, he has the seventh most carries in the NFL. And out of all running backs with 50 carries at least, and there are, let's see, 36 of them, he is the least efficient runner, but he's tied with two other players, 3.3 yards of carry. There are two other players also 3.3 yards of carry. You're not gonna be able to name them. So I guess I'll just give them to you. Rex Perkin. One's gonna be really interesting. It's Deandre Swin. Oh, not just on the team, OK. Yeah, no, Deandre Swift. And then another one is Mike Davis. That one checks out. Yeah, that one checks out for sure. That checks out. The Deandre Swift one is interesting. Is it just because this offense has had trouble moving besides through him, so they're giving him the ball a lot? Yeah, I think it's probably the offense, but at least Deandre Swift thrives in the receiving game, which makes him very fantasy relevant. Yep, absolutely. Guys, I went ahead and moved on to the Minnesota Vikings, Carolina Panthers game. Minnesota beating the Panthers 34 to 28. And if you had Sam Darnold in your lineups, it turned out OK at the end, totally fine, but you used bullets for a lot of that game. He had a pretty rough start to that game. What, 16 points is fine for Sam Darnold. Not great, but so absolutely a lot. Right now he's the 14th quarterback in scoring so far in fantasy. And I feel like we talked about him on the show recently and we consensus that he was probably around like a top 15 quarterback rest of season. So I think you'll get better games from Sam Darnold, but this is about the level rest of season that I'm expecting from him. Especially if CMC is not in the lineup, I think this is the type of games that you're going to have to deal with. Because Hubbard looked decent, but he's no Christian McCaffrey. And it's basically, I'm sorry to tell you, I know that's a shock, but McCaffrey's so involved in the passing game that they looked phenomenal first few weeks when he was healthy, but this is granted, it's not Jets Sam Darnold by any means. Did we lose Jets? Could we lose Simon? I think you did lose me for a second there, but I am back. Everyone was in everybody. As soon as we start talking about Chuba Hubbard, the internet gives out, I think there's something going on here. Coincidence, I think not. That says everything you need to know about Chuba Hubbard. But with CMC being placed on the IR, that means we've got at least another three games of Chuba Hubbard. Is this a guy that, like you're plugging into your starting lineup week in, week out with Christian McCaffrey out? With the volume he's going to get. Yeah, I think he's a style of running back to, the way that the running back landscape looks, especially with injuries and bi-week coming up, I think Hubbard's every week started as a running back to. Yep, I agree. Yep, agree with you guys there. What the heck's up with Robbie Anderson? He gets like 10 targets every game. He got 11 targets this week and he can't get any more than 11 yards anyway, it seems like. It sounds like a touchdown. Sounds like a Sam Darnold problem. Did Steve Smith retire and sign with the Panthers? Is that what he's getting right there? I'm really confused right now. Oh my Lord. So I don't know if you're ever going to feel comfortable putting Robbie Anderson in your lineup, but he always has the upside to score a long touchdown. Yeah, he was the top scoring receiver for the Panthers today. It was a disappointing week from DJ Moore, but I'm guessing everyone here, week in, week out, you're picking a Panthers wide receiver. It's DJ Moore, right? Oh yes. No question. No question. 14 targets for DJ Moore. Yeah, he didn't get the touchdown, but DJ Moore is the one getting the targets. You're plugging him into your lineup each and every week. I love DJ Moore. I need some big catches. I wish he got points for catches that influenced the game. DJ Moore has some really big catches in this game, but not a great fantasy week for him. On the Minnesota side of this ball, there were a lot of people disappointed with Justin Jefferson's week, even though we had eight receptions for 80 yards, he just didn't get in the end zone like his counterpart Adam Touchdown feeling. Any concerns about Jefferson going forward, or this was just a he didn't get the touchdown? Did he fumble in this game? He did fumble. Yeah, he fumbled once. And no concerns. Players are going to have games like this. I'm not concerned at all. He's still got the most targets out of everyone on the team. And then, Jail, Mr. Target, Adam Thielen, people have been. He's Adam Touchdown Thielen for sure this year. It seemed like until this game, he seemed to be a little bit more involved. What is Adam Thielen's target share in this offense? On the season, it's 21.8%. Just the last three games, 21.4%. So it's been pretty constant or pretty uniform. What we've seen lately is sort of where he's settling in, it seems. And Justin Jefferson has the number one with 25.8%. Yeah, checks out. That is a little bit higher than I thought for Adam Thielen. But as far as Adam Thielen goes as a startable wide receiver in fantasy, how do you guys feel about him the rest of season? Is he someone that's a every week starter or matchup dependent? What are you doing with Adam Thielen? He's a wide receiver too, for me, in my mind. Yeah, I completely agree. I think he's a wide receiver too. He could have some big weeks. But as we saw when he doesn't get the touchdown, he doesn't necessarily have. This week would be a little different. But most weeks so far, if he hasn't had a touchdown, he hasn't had that great of a week. He's probably just outside of a wide receiver too, for me. But that still means he's an every week starter. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you guys. I feel like you have to plug him in. You're going to get bad weeks, but you have to plug him in. Josh, let me ask you this. Adam Thielen or Robert Woods the rest of season? That's a good question. I do think Robert Woods has the better offense. But I think Adam Thielen is just going to be more consistent throughout the season when it comes down to it. He's got more touchdown upside in my mind. I lean Adam Thielen. Lean Adam Thielen on that one? All right. OK, Adam Thielen for Josh of Robert Woods' rest of season. And I think I agree with you there, but it is very close. I hate having to answer that question. FanDuel said Bobby Tree's on Nickname alone. Bobby Tree's getting the nod on that one. While we're talking about receivers though, there was another receiver. People were a little bit excited about him. Some people out on them on waivers. We've seen him in some waiver articles recently. But KJ Osborne showed up in this game. Six reception, 78 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown. Is he a part of this Minnesota game plan going forward or was this just a great game for KJ Osborne? Are you worried about his impact on Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson in this offense at all? He scored the game-winning touchdown as well. It was beautiful. KJ Osborne definitely going to get less targets than Adam Thielen and Justin Jefferson on a weekly basis. But he's very explosive. And this offense kind of thrives with three receiving threats. And I think those are the three receivers. I think maybe Irv Smith would have been a little bit more involved if he didn't get injured. But it's KJ Osborne is the third guy for sure. 15.3% target share in this offense. That's Josh's right. He's like a firm. Yeah, he's a firm wide receiver 3 on the team. I don't know about the infancy. No, not infancy, yeah, not infancy. If you're in a pinch and you need somebody to start as a flex or a wide receiver 3, the matchup is right. I mean, he scored double digits in half his games. He had a 20-point game already in PPR formats. He's got nine targets, six targets, seven targets, seven targets. So he's getting targeted. So I think, like you said, you could do a lot worse than throwing KJ Osborne in your lineup as an emergency, either bi-week replacement or injury replacement. Jay, let me ask you this. KJ Osborne or Henry Ruggs, rest of season, which one of these players do you want to plug into your lineup? Wow, easy, easy for me. Easy for you, Jay. We'll start with you. I'm going Osborne. Osborne for Jay. Jay, what do you say? I'm going Ruggs. Ruggs, easy Ruggs from you. Josh, what about you? I lean Ruggs. So Jay, tell us a little bit about why you pick Osborne in that scenario. I just don't trust Henry Ruggs. And I love what they're doing with Simon, your boy, Hunter, Renfro. It's very close. It's a coin toss. It would be matchup dependent for me, but I just lean. The way things have looked in Las Vegas here recently, I don't necessarily trust that offense. The way Renfro's been commanding with these cinematic targets, they've got Darren Waller's the option. Ruggs is basically the, Ruggs is the much higher upside, but I think Osborne has a safer floor between the two. Yep, I think Ruggs probably needs a big play in order to be fantasy successful. But if anyone's going to get a big play, it might be him, you know? Yeah, I agree with you guys there. Jay, I think you broke it down perfectly for my thoughts exactly. KJ Osborne is probably your safer option. Seems like he's got safer targets each and every week, but Henry Ruggs has that big playability that just can smash that home run any given week. Dallin Cook, you're plugging him into your lineup if he's healthy. He's got 29. Absolutely insane. By the way, those two guys have same number of fancy points per game. 0.7, Ruggs and Osborne. Wow, that's pretty crazy. Look at me, I did that comparison on purpose. I like how you did that move. That was nice. Anytime you talk, can you do that, please? That, uh, I don't remember the video. You remember the video of the guy being interviewed on TV and then his daughter comes marching in in the background like this. That's the person I was trying to emulate was the confidence of a four-year-old marching into their father's television interview. Was the confidence kind of. And then the nanny comes sliding in. A baby comes in on a boxer, too. And then someone comes in and drags both children out like violently. If you haven't seen it, go watch it. Type in baby comes in on TV in a half an hour. Keep watching this, because with my children, it's very possible it could happen on this show. And they could just show up at any moment. Stay tuned. Let's just set one up. Let's just set it up, yeah. Well, you can tell the people now they know. Come on, Josh. OK, guys, we are going to move on to this Kansas City versus Washington football team game. The final score was 31 to 13 Kansas City Chiefs. But if you watch this game at the beginning, it was a lot closer in the first half. And the score kind of indicates Washington was keeping up a little bit there before Kansas City pulled the head. Go ahead, Josh. I love that it. I love that it. Which side did you lie about? What line did you get? I lied. I bet the Chiefs, when they were down 1310, the football team had the ball. And I think it was the Chiefs minus two points at the time. Oh, wow. Phenomenal job. The problem. Absolutely worked out. Guys, what I did want to ask you about, Patrick Mahomes going into the season, Consensus, Dynasty, QB number one, Superstar, Redraft, QB number one. His interceptions seem to have been a bit of a problem this year. Now, some of them are on the receivers. We've seen quite a few interceptions get bounced off of receivers' hands. But do you have any concern about Patrick Mahomes as a locked and loaded fantasy option rest of the season on this Chiefs team? I just want to ask. What are you talking about, Simon? What are you talking about? I've seen the rubble ends on Twitter. But I just want to. I wouldn't say concerned. I will say I think the status of it being Mahomes in his own tier, then the Josh Allens, Lamar Jacksons, Kyler Murrays. I think they're all in one tier together now. So I think his status as the undisputed QB one isn't necessarily there anymore. But now you're not concerned about Patrick Mahomes at all. I mean, concerned about Patrick Mahomes is maybe knocking him from one to three, right? Like it's not knocking him from one to non-startable. You're talking about him as a top three option instead of the number one overall option. But I seem to agree with you guys there. And then another question I saw pushed out on Twitter a lot today. Daryl Williams came in and had himself a game. People were asking, do you think Daryl Williams is better back in this offense than Clyde Edwards-O'Lair? So Josh, you have probably been the highest on Clyde Edwards-O'Lair out of all of us throughout the off-season. Daryl Williams looked great in this offense. Do you have concern about Clyde Edwards-O'Lair role whenever he comes back from injury? Josh just enough to say anything. His face, you said everything that you needed to say. No, you're right. I do love Clyde Edwards-O'Lair. And it wasn't so much love for Clyde Edwards-O'Lair. It was. I thought there was just a lot of room to grow, but it's really this offense. Him getting more involved in the passing game, him just getting the valuable touches, goal line touches. There's going to be a ton of scoring opportunities that you are going to have. And Daryl, this is what we saw Daryl Williams get the full workload this week. He got 21 carries. He wasn't necessarily efficient, but he got those touchdowns. And that's what really matters in fantasy a lot of the time. Three catches is nice. When Clyde Edwards-O'Lair comes back, I think it's still his job, but it's going to be a split and it's going to be disappointing. I'm here to tell you guys. I'm not telling you to sell Clyde Edwards-O'Lair right now because I don't know what you're going to get, but... Do you think a 50-50 split? You think it's going to lean on CEH? Slightly on CEH's side. And it's not going to be good for either one of these guys in fantasy. That's what I am looking at. That's what I think is going to happen right now. And I know Andy Reid likes to lean on one running back a lot of the time, but I don't know. I think Daryl Williams has proved it. Yeah, I tend to agree with you a bit there, Josh. Seeing what Daryl Williams did when given the opportunity I highly doubt they go back to a one-back system with CEH whenever he comes back. I just can't see it happening with what we've seen from CEH and what we've seen from Daryl Williams so far. This year, JL, how do you feel about Daryl Williams or CEH more whenever he comes back going forward? It's going to really depend on what sort of information we get on his injury going forward and how he's feeling. Daryl Williams looked great, but I honestly do put that a lot on this offense. Clyde Edwards-O'Lair looked great at times and the offense is really moving. So I think that whoever is going to be running this backfield will be fantasy relevant. And there's a good chance that if they do, if the injury keeps them from giving Clyde Edwards a layer of the workload back and then starting to split it 50-50 between Daryl Williams and him like Josh did, that's going to be worrisome. I'm not sure how confident I'm going to be in either one of them. Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree with you guys there. Now on the chief side, we don't really need to talk about Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey. They're superstars. You plug them in, they're heavily targeted. 12 targets, 11 targets. Well, what I did want to talk about was the other receivers in this offense who had quite a few targets today. They were not irrelevant. So, sorry, excuse me here. DeMarcus Robinson at six targets, three receptions, 46 yards. Mikal Harvin at five targets, four receptions, 62 yards. Any interest in either of those guys going forward, either in a DFS or a season long format? It seems to happen all the time with the Kansas City wide receivers. Any time, you know, somebody other than Tyree Kill or Travis Kelsey, even though he's the tight end, he's basically a wide receiver on this offense. Everybody's like, oh, it's Byron Pringle, he's the guy. Oh, it's Mikal Hardman, it's this guy. Oh, DeNard Robinson, and then you start him and you get that zero. DeNard Robinson. DeMarcus. DeNard Robinson, wasn't he the quarterback from Michigan? Well, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. I was actually testing you guys. Well done. Bravo, I was testing you. We did it. We did it. Yeah, that was the guy from Michigan, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, it kind of reminds me of the Packers situation. Oh boy. Tri-Fandals said, DeNard Robinson, dual threat legend. He's really, was he the last guy on the cover at CAAA Football? He was definitely on the cover. Yes, I think he was. I think he was the last guy on the cover at CAAA Football. Shout out, DeNard Robinson. That's what this stream is about. If you take one thing from this stream, it's dual threat legend, DeNard Robinson. He didn't tie shoelaces. Yes, yep, you're right. I think you're right. That's so reckless. DeNard Robinson and my girlfriend never tie on their shoelaces. I didn't know we would be talking about that. All over the place. But Jay, what you said about these receivers, I completely agree with you. In a season long format, I have no interest in plugging any of them into DeNard Robinson. And DeNard Robinson. But in a DFS matchup, I am totally fine throwing them into my lineup. Take your shot. The one I'm more interested in is actually DeMarcus Robinson. It seems like a lot of the attention goes to Meekle Hardman. But DeMarcus Robinson is almost just as heavily targeted. I feel like he's the man that's forgotten, especially if Tyree Kill was injured. Like, we weren't sure if he was gonna play in this game. Everyone was obsessing over Meekle Hardman. But DeMarcus Robinson is just as targeted in this offense as Meekle Hardman is. He's a DFS play week in, week out for me, I think. He can hit that long touchdown. And he's probably a little bit cheaper than some of these other options on this offense. I like that. Maria has a question for us. Sorry if you've already covered this, but drop or keep Alexander Madison. And for me, Maria, if you have the room on your bench, keep him. He's a guy that if you need to, if you need to drop him to pick someone up to start somebody with bi-weeks and injuries, you can. But if you have any option at all to keep him on your bench, I want to. Because Dalvin Cook hasn't been the most robust running back when it comes to health in the NFL. And Madison's a plug and play backup. If you have Dalvin Cook, you cannot drop Alexander Madison. Yeah, agree with both of you. If you don't, then I'm completely with Simon. Try so hard not to drop him, but it's okay if you, if it's okay if you need to, if you need to, you can do it. Try to trade him to the Dalvin Cook owner, you know, push this like ankle. I mean, because Dalvin Cook, he played a game, missed a game. You know, even if you just slightly upgraded position, you know, that's something that's KLP team. I love it, Jay. Yep. And then for the Washington side of this ball, J.D. McKissick was the highest scoring player for this Washington offense. We all drew it up. Well, you know what? You look at the game, it makes sense. They got down, the Chiefs ended up pulling ahead. J.D. McKissick is their pass catching back. They've made that a parent. It's not going to be Antonio Gibson, at least not this year. And so he got the catches. That's where he made his money. Eight reception, 65 receiving yards. That's where the majority of his points came from in a half PPR format. J.D. McKissick is game script dependent, but game script dependent, startable. He's a guy you can plug in in my eyes. Now, Antonio Gibson, we have been concerned about him because of that injury. This was not a good game for Antonio Gibson. 10 carries, 44 yards, two receptions for nothing, zero yards. John Luke, are you still nervous about Antonio Gibson going forward? Or do you think this was a game script written bad game for him? Honestly, I am still worried. I think we talked about it last week that what's it called, the hairline fracture. Stress, stress, stress, fracture, hairline stress, fracture, hairline stress, stress, compound, subluxation, subluxation, knock-on, knock-on. That would be bad. Woo, woo, woo, fracture. You got a woo, woo, woo, fracture, you're in trouble. You got a woo, woo, woo, boo. But yeah, I think it's- You say woo, woo, boo, boo. Yeah. Woo, woo, woo, woo, boo, boo. You say woo, woo, woo, boo, boo. Yeah, I am worried about Antonio Gibson. I think that he'll still be somewhat relevant going forward as long as that he doesn't make that injury worse. J.D. McKissick is, as we've seen, been used very much in the passing game, which is excellent for his fantasy value going forward. Yep, agree with you guys there. Now, Taylor Heineke, this was a game that a lot of people, myself included, were excited to start Taylor Heineke and going up against this very weak, cheap defense that we've seen so far through the season. But it was rather disappointing. So, Jay, Taylor Heineke, rest of season, do you have confidence in him as a fantasy starter or is this a purely matchup-dependent quarterback play? 100% matchup-based play. And you saw it, you know, he can even fall flat on his face in a good matchup. The Kansas City second area has been very exploitable this season. Now, I will say, Terem Gloren got injured in practice. They said, you know, it wasn't concerned that if he was gonna actually play, but, you know, he had eight targets, he only had four catches. He had a couple of deep balls that he could have caught. I think the injury bothered him more than the football team was letting on. So, I definitely think that has a big reason to do with Heineke's tough day because did Curtis Samuel play or was he out? No, he was out. Curtis Samuel, he's re-aggravating the groin, I think. Hamstring. Ah! Hamstring, he just goes so loud, it's terrified me. I would not rely on Curtis Samuel the rest of the season. Yeah, I think Heineke's a matchup-based QB2. I really don't, I think you could definitely find a better option, one quarterback leagues, but super flex leagues, I think he's solid. He does have that on his side. What about our boy, Ricky Seales-Jones with four receptions for 88 yards in our same touchdown? Just saying that. You did, you did. Yeah. Yeah, so Jay, we'll come to you first on Ricky Seales-Jones. Was he just a good start this week, or is this a tight end you're interested in going forward? As long as Logan Thomas is out in Heineke's under center, I think he's somebody, you know, obviously if you don't have one of the studs, the, well, not kidding. Ricky Seales-Jones or Travis Kelsey? That's tough. I might have to go Seales-Jones on this one now. I think out of, you know, he's getting the looks, he's getting, they're using them in the red zone. I think he's a fine start as long as Logan Thomas is out. That's the key though, Jay. Yeah, once Logan Thomas is back. No, Ricky Seales-Jones really has just been playing all the snaps the last three weeks. And once Logan Thomas is back, that's not going to be the case. Yep. When is he expected to be back? He's placed on IR, so he missed last week. He missed this week, so I'm not 100%. At least next week. I don't know about after that. So we got at least one more week of Ricky Seales-Jones, boys. Go and pick him up. He's a, as far as tight ends go, he's a very startable asset. Anything else on this Washington side of the ball before we move on? Or we already talked about Kansas City, didn't we? Yeah, we did. We did. In fact, we did. Man, I just wanted to talk about them again. It was so exciting. We are going to move on to the Bengals versus Lions game. The poor Lions stay in at 0-5. Jared Goff did not have himself a good game, but the Bengals came out and looked pretty dang good. And I, before we get started, this isn't fantasy relevant at all. Like this is not fantasy relevant, but on that Joe Mixon touchdown, Jamar Chase had such a beautiful block. Like that made me have so much more confidence in him as an NFL receiver. Like you can see the catches. You can see the touchdowns, but it's those high effort plays that make coaches want to make sure they're on the field at all times. Jamar Chase threw an unreal block that secured the Joe Mixon touchdown. That wouldn't have been a touchdown without the Jamar Chase block. I love him. I was too low on him pre-season. He's such a good football player. Did you see Joe Mixon pick up the fans phone and take a little selfie video? No, I didn't. I think it was on the Uzoma touchdown. There was a fan, you saw it, like it was right in the front of the fans face, and then they dropped the phone. And then all of a sudden you see it picked up and Joe Mixon just does a little selfie there with the video and the hands at back to the fan. That has to be one of the things that was really good. I'm going to say something here that we usually say as a joke. Dynamitee Widerseever won. Jamar Chase. You really think so? Is that a serious or? It's serious. You're drafting him ahead of Justin Jefferson? No. No. No. You know what? I think it's a conversation. I think you should really have a conversation about Jamar Chase up there as Dynasty Widerseever number one. No, it's really close, though. It really is. You know what, Josh? I don't necessarily disagree with you. I've been saying all right. But all season I've been saying that I still think Joe Burrow is a bi-low. I think by the end of the season, this offense is going to be humming. He's had at least two touchdowns in heaven. You know, I live in North Carolina. Give me a break. He's had at least two touchdowns in every single game. He hasn't had, you know, he had one game under 20 points. They've definitely held this offense back to get him back on the field, get, you know, the games that he starts to take some hits. They lean more on the run and stuff like that. But I honestly think this offense is going to be, JL, this is for you, humming by the end of the season. Humming. I think Burrow is a great bi-low the way that this defense has looked to. I think he's going to be a top 10 quarterback by the end of the season. Yep, I love that take. And with receivers like Higgins and Jamar Chase and Tyler Boyd, there are very few teams in the NFL that you can put in a conversation with the Buccaneers about receiving trio. Like I think the Bucs are still better with Evans, Godwin Brown, but the Cowboys and the Bengals, I think are really, Trio, Deontre Hopkins. More of a quad. Like I think Trio's, the Bengals are right up there with the Bucs and the Cowboys, they have to be. And the Cowboys- Bucs number one still. Bucs number one. Oh, without a doubt, the Bucs are still number one. Bucs ran. I'm just trying to give a nod to the Bengals here. The Bengals have the better running back. Oh yeah. Even the way that Lenny's looked, Mixon gets involved as well. Who's the third in Seattle? Exactly. Not more anymore. It was more last year, right? But I don't know who it is anymore. Russell Wilson is the third receiving option in Seattle, I think, even on IR. Do you know Smith? Everett, maybe. Man, I was, passed to himself. I was trying to tell my girlfriend the other day about the Marcus Mariota pass to himself where he threw a fan, caught the touchdown pass in the same game and like how that worked for fantasy, but I was doing such a bad job describing it that I was just desperate for it to happen on the TV while I was saying it, but we did not get that luxury. Maybe we'll see it again. I just look it up. Denard Robinson is the third-blad receiver in Seattle. Ah. Also, side note, this is completely random. Baker Mayfield got injured in today's Browns game. I'm sure we'll mention that in a second. But the ground signing, Denard Robinson, is that what you're about to tell us? No, Case Keenum came in as a backup and Josh and I were talking a couple of weeks ago, like any team that we don't know the backup. That was you, guys, Simon. Or it was me and Jay, sorry. We just assumed that Case Keenum is the backup for said team and as a Browns team, it's funny to me that he actually is the backup for my team. He's the backup literally for every team in the NFL. He seems like it. And he is part owner of a vineyard in Texas and I had their wine recently. Did you guys know that? No. Did you go there? Justin probably knew that. Our friend Justin from 14B, you know, he's a big wine drinker. He's a big wine drinker, yeah. No, I was at the Renaissance Festival and they had a booth there, but so we did have it over there. Josh, before we move on from the Bengals, Mr. Joe Mixon Lover. I know you and Jay both love him, but I'm going to come to you. Are you expecting more of this from Joe Mixon the rest of season with the way this offense is moving right now? This is exactly what I expect from Joe Mixon week in and week out. Being involved in the passing game, six targets, five receptions, 59 yards. Maybe he doesn't get a reception touchdown every week, but, and that was a beautiful reception touchdown. But, you know, 18 carries, 94 yards. This is what I expect and... Josh and I love him so much. Exactly. Love, love, love. Okay, guys, we're going to move on to the Lions side of this ball, relatively disappointing. For most of these players, if you plug them into your lineup, you're probably fine with De'Andre Swift, okay with TJ Hawkinson. You know, at 11 points from a tight end, you're not going to get mad there, but outside of that, it was pretty disappointing. I know I was personally touting to start Amon Ross St. Brown this week with the... Apparently it looks like he changed his name. It's just Amon Ross St. Amon Ross St. is his name. Amon Ross St. White receiver. He's A-Saint. Can we start calling him St. White receiver? I forgot his name right there. Five receptions, 26 yards. Is this a guy that you guys think has weekly flex appeal even with this disappointing game? Nope. No? The way Goff has looked. It just hurts because he's getting targeted fairly heavily in this offense. But I agree with you guys. With a quarterback playing the way Goff has looked, it doesn't matter if he's getting eight targets a game. Those eight targets are worth nothing coming from Jared Goff in my mind. Nothing. Take that, Jared Goff. He's got no touchdowns. He just needs more touchdowns is what the issue is. DJ Hawkinson actually impressed me. 11 targets, eight receptions for 74 yards. By far that's a impressive receiver. Yeah. There were some people saying that Hawkinson was one of the biggest busts, Simon. And I think that was definitely premature. I think Hawkinson is a lockdown. He's dealing with an injury. Yeah. He's in that tier of guys that is an every week start for tight end. Look at the rest of the past catching options on this offense. Like how are we not going to start Hawkinson? Like nothing. You start Hawkinson week and week out. I know it's been disappointing, but God, he's such a good player in an offense where he is truly like alone as a past catching option. I understand the love for Amun Rasen Brown, but there is DJ Hawkinson there. Amun Rasen wide receiver. De'Andre Swift, Josh, you mentioned earlier that he was tied for the least efficient running back of more than 50 carries, but he's been a pretty dominant fantasy force so far this season. Any concerns about De'Andre Swift or no? Nope. As long as he's involved in the passing game, I am happy because this Lions needs receiving targets and De'Andre Swift's probably the first or second best receiver on the team, in my opinion, when it comes down to it. And again, he's getting the carries, even in a negative game script getting 13 carries. And then real quick, before we move on to the Arizona Cleveland game, and we don't have to spend much time on this one. No big deal, guys. We can just skip. Five to two with the Johns every week. We're running short on time. Every week. But I did want to ask, so I have seen multiple people come out and say with the way De'Andre Swift has performed so far this season, the workload he's being given, that he should be in consideration for the Dynasty RB1 overall in fantasy. Do you guys agree with that position on De'Andre Swift? Do you think he deserves to be in that conversation? No, not even close. De's not in a good offense. I think that's the type of thing. You have to be able to put up this type of production in a top tier offense. And it's seen to be a while, I think, before the Lions have a top tier offense. So no, I mean, this week, you take away the touchdown and he's hovering around 10 points. So I think he's good. Barkley was the Dynasty running back number one overall for a little bit there in a pretty poor Giants offense. Now that is a talent disparity, I think, in a lot of people's minds between Barkley and Swift. Is that the only difference there for you that you're viewing Barkley as a more talented back? Yeah, I mean, Swift is great, but he's generational gets thrown around so much in fantasy football and the draft, everything. Barkley, in my opinion, and I'm not just saying this because I'm a Giants fan. I think you guys know I try to stay away from my fandom when it comes to fantasy, but Barkley is one of the very few players that I do think is a generational talent. I agree with that. De'Andre Swift is the running back dynasty, running back number one. There we go, I knew someone was gonna say it. There it is, one out of four. Yeah, he's on a bad team and in a PPR league, he's the eighth overall running back. Imagine if this team does figure it out. I mean, who are you gonna put next down? So you're taking him. Giants fans have been saying all their life, Josh. Imagine if they figure it out. 101, you're on the clock, Josh. Are you taking De'Andre Swift? I did not. Orchid Marches. Orchid Marches. I don't want the 101 in a startup super flex. It doesn't matter. You're on the clock. Are you taking De'Andre Swift? Yeah, I don't know who I'm taking over him. One, go. To be completely honest with you. Yeah, sure. Jonathan Taylor? No, I want De'Andre Swift more. That's the big for me right now. De'Andre Swift. I have Swift in a couple of dynasty leagues, so I like hearing that. But I mean, he's in the conversation, but. I mean, Na'Jee Harris, maybe you could throw. That's the name I was gonna. But then he loses Ben Ralfersberger with him. I have Na'Jee Harris and De'Andre Swift. I want teams. Ben Ralfersberger is gone next season. Na'Jee Harris is not gonna get the receptions and targets he's getting right now, I don't think. He's still gonna be a highly used running back and I like him. I love De'Andre. I love what I'm seeing out of De'Andre Swift. Even with that inefficiency at running. I mean, it's the pass-catching work. He's a great pass-catcher. He's a pass-catcher running back that gets a lot of carries as well. Do you think that, can you say if they're able to get, you know, a rock-solve wide receiver one? I think so. I mean, was he kept, I don't know the answer to this, but was he getting this many targets last year when Kenny Galladay was on the team and on the field? So it was also Rookie who they generally don't trust in pass-blocking, but he was relatively involved as a rookie. I like De'Andre, so if don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that he's not good by any means, but I just feel like it's a little premature to call him running back one in Dynasty. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I find myself more in line with Josh, not necessarily that he's number one overall, but I think he's in that conversation. Nagy Harris, Jonathan Taylor, De'Andre Swift. I think those are the backs you're talking about when you're talking about the number one overall running back in Dynasty. And at such time, I must be wearing suspenders with that move. I wish, man, bring suspenders back. Belts are the worst, and suspenders just look nice. Guys, we're gonna move on to this Brown Cardinals game. On the Brown side, Creamhunt injured in this game, Nick Chubb out. Do you guys have interest in Demetriq Felton or De'Andre Johnson as a pickup going forward or as someone you can plug into your lineups? Only if they're both out. I mean, that's really it. Like, if one of the two is playing, zero interest. But especially, you know, Baker's hurt, like they're probably gonna start, if Baker's out for an extended period of time, they're gonna get even more run heavy. So if they're both out, yes, otherwise, no, thank you. I think Chubb will be back soon, and... The only thing that scares me with Chubb is they play on Thursday night this week. So I hope that he's able to, maybe that's why they held him out. That's, you know, I've seen them do that before. He missed the game before Thursday night game and he was in there, so. Yep, real quick on the brown side of this ball, I know we can go through it quickly, but Donovan Peoples-Jones, four receptions, 101 yards, two receding touchdowns. Don't plug them into your lineup next week is what I'm gonna say, but man, was it good to see? It was neat to truck that guy. And to get into the end zone, that was all sick. I was such a sick touchdown. Just a mouse, flatten the dude completely. Dynasty, go get him. Put him on your bench, let him sit there. He has a talented wide receiver. I'm so excited to see him have a big game, but for the love of God, I'm just asking you, do not plug him into your lineups next week. Don't chase this. This was a great game from him, but you can't expect this going forward. And Landry will probably be back next week. Absolutely, yeah, that's a great point, Josh. Anything else on the brown side of this ball? Clyde O'Dell didn't get too hurt. He was hurt for a little bit. Came back in the game. Came back in the game, got eight targets, five catches, 79 yards. This is, this is good to see from O'Dell back. Very good to see. Dynasty managers. Yep. It's not the best game in the world, but I still feel okay putting him in my flex. Yep. The Arizona side, Kyler Murray, good. De'Andre Hopkins, good. Then good luck with the rest of the receivers this week. It didn't matter though. As long as you didn't plug in Rondale Moore, you were happy. AJ Green, Christian Kirk, both showed up for you this week. What are you guys doing with the secondary receiving options on this Arizona team? So outside of De'Andre Hopkins, obviously. AJ Green, Christian Kirk, Rondale Moore. Jail, we'll start with you first. Which one of these guys would you rather start on a weekend, week-out basis? AJ Green, I think is my number two on this offense. So I'm gonna quickly pull up his target numbers here. Remember that Zach Hertz just got traded to the Cardinals this week. Zach Hertz did just get traded to the Cardinals. That is a super interesting move, actually. Yes, so he's got, AJ Green's got 17% of this target share in this offense. Christian Kirk has 15.9% and Rondale Moore 15.4%. All pretty close, all pretty close together. But AJ Green would definitely be the next one in the line for me. I think if you're looking for guaranteed points, AJ Green is the play. If I have to pick one to plug in weekend, week-out rest of season, just the way I play fantasy, I'm probably going Rondale Moore. I just think he has that explosiveness, that big playability that, yeah, some weeks he's gonna draw four fantasy points on you like he did this week, but I don't see Zach Hertz eating into any of his targets. They don't play the same position on the field at all. I think Rondale Moore is gonna have big games. He's the one I wanna plug in. Josh, what about you? I think, personally, it's AJ Green, because I do think that Zach Hertz is gonna take away targets from all these guys a little bit. He's just gonna be in the middle of the field, taking away targets. So I think it hurts the secondary receiving options for the Cardinals. Yeah, are you excited about Zach Hertz's rest of season? I think it's gonna take a week or two for him to just like get acclimated a little bit, so I don't wanna like start him or anything. But once he does, yeah, I think this is an improvement. Max Williams was like becoming irrelevant, you know? Max Williams is proving pretty productive in that offense. So I'm definitely excited. And I think Zach Hertz is a more talented tight end. Yeah, I completely agree. Completely agree, more experienced and more talented, yeah. I guess I'm gonna be a little on Island here, but I think I would go with Christian Kirk. I think he offers a decently safe floor. He's had at least five catches in four to six games, and he has that upside as well. They like to throw it to him deep. I think if I'm picking one guy to go in every week, I think it would be Kirk. You're rolling the dice with any of them, but I just, I like that mixture of a safe floor getting targeted a lot with that big playability as well. Yep, I agree with you guys there. And then a disappointing week from the Arizona running backs. Do you guys read into that at all going forward or was this just how the game played out? It's really strange. Maybe Chase Edmonds is still kinda dealing with a little bit of an injury. 16 carries for James Connor, four carries for Chase Edmonds. Chase Edmonds was somewhat involved in the past game like he is, but only three catches. It was disappointing to see from Chase Edmonds. James Connor's gonna continue getting this share of the carries. That really lowers Chase Edmonds' floor. And it does make Connor a decent fantasy running back in my mind. Yeah, I agree with you. I have many leagues where Connor is just a locked in starter. No, I'm not thrilled about it, but he's getting to work in a high powered offense and every single week probably has the best opportunity. Like out of all the running backs who could fall into the end zone, there's very few with a higher probability than James Connor because of the offense he's on. He's the kind of running back you're not excited about, but you're gonna start him. This is a tough matchup for those running backs too. Browns are very good against the run. Great point. Yeah, so this is a tough matchup. And it looks like the Cardinals knew that there was a lot done through the air for this offense in this game. Real quick, sorry, excuse me, those kombucha burps getting me again. Anything else about this game, guys, before we move on? We'll say we don't know with Karim Hunt, but if he is out for a long time, I think you got to put Nick Chubb in the conversation as a potential top five running back. I think the only thing, it's never been the talent, it's never been his efficiency. It's been the workload. And if he gets that workload, watch out. I mean, how he's been a top 10 running back with Karim Hunt on the field or like viewed as such. You take Karim Hunt out of there. Nick Chubb is an absolute monster. Completely agree with you. And Nick Chubb can catch the ball. It's just that Karim Hunt plays that role. So I'll say right there with you, Jay. Fantastic point, Josh. Like people think just because he doesn't, doesn't mean he can. They, I saw it last year, I got excited. They started throwing him out wide early in the season and he made some great catches. So I'm with you. I'm excited as a Nick Chubb manager. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, guys, I know Sunday night football has started and all of you guys want to get over there. We want to get over there to start watching some Sunday night football too. So that is going to be it for your Sunday night fantasy recap presented by FanDuel. Just a reminder, I am your host, Simon. We are here every Sunday with the co-host, Jay, John Luke and Josh at 7 p.m. Eastern time breaking down these fantasy games for you before you leave this stream. If you're watching on YouTube or on Twitch, hit that subscribe button on YouTube and that follow button on Twitch to make sure you're not missing out on this awesome FanDuel content week in and week out. Woo, slapping the base. Slapping the base. Before we left, we were going to give Super Bowl predictions each and every week. Does anybody want to update theirs from last week? Slapping the base. I don't remember mine from last week. I don't remember who I picked. Mine were Chargers and Rams. I'm pretty sure I remember what mine was. I think it was Baltimore and Tampa Bay and I'm saying. No, I thought I think I was the only one that picked Baltimore. No, I think you picked Tampa to win. I think that was the difference. I picked Baltimore to win. All right, I'm going Baltimore, Tampa Bay. Let's go. I don't remember mine. I think mine might have been Chargers last week. Chargers, Tampa Bay. Baltimore and Tampa Bay feel so safe. Yeah, I'm going to stick with Chargers, Rams. I know it was a disappointing week for the Chargers, but I believe in them. But Ravens are on watch. They put a couple more games like this together and I don't know how I can pick anybody but them for the Super Bowl. Give me Baltimore Rams. No one's going to give respect to Arizona, huh? Arizona deserves to be in this conversation. They look so freaking good. Oh, God, I don't know now. That division. I'll change mine. It's just like in the playoffs, Arizona against Tampa Bay. Could you imagine that as a Super Bowl Baltimore? Yeah, I'll go Baltimore, Arizona. That sounds like my dream. My dream. Yeah, Super Bowl. You know what? Outside of the LA versus LA in LA, Baltimore versus Arizona is like the most fun I think I could have with the Super Bowl. That sounds really, really awesome. I feel like Dills are going to ruin it. You know what? I think I'm going to change my answer as much as I hate to do this. I was going to say Baltimore, Los Angeles Rams. I'm going to go Baltimore and the Dallas Cowboys. Use. Pinky Giants fans. I don't want that, but man, they look good. Gross. They're running game with the wide receivers. They got the defense. Watch out Cowboys Twitter. That is going to be something else if they make it. We know they're getting into the playoffs. Oh, if they go to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl, I'm deleting Twitter. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Oh, my God. OK, guys, that is it for us this week. 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