 Go ahead, please. Thank you. So as I said, good afternoon and early evening. Thank you very much to those of you who are in front of a computer screen or a or a cell phone like me and I thank you for participating in this webinar organized by the New Horizons Foundation, the Foundation Connected to initiative and before and now to the comments it's the member of GEF, the Green European Foundation that gathers all the foundations of the different member states of the European Union and also outside of the European Union. Before I continue let me say that this webinar will be either in Catalan or Spanish. Each speaker will choose his or her language, but there is simultaneous interpreting from either language into English that is available to all of you to facilitate communication so that you can follow all the interventions. If you don't speak either Catalan or Spanish, we'll be covering the new food policy focused on the metropolitan area of Barcelona. It's a webinar that we are organizing with SIG, inside of the European Transnational Project where the foundation, the New Horizons Foundation participates. It's part of the transnational activities with the support of the Green European Foundation. We've been working on cities as a place of hope. That intends to cover all the issues of the different policies of our society where cities, villages, towns are going ahead with the participation of the green forces, sometimes from the government, sometimes from the opposition, and sometimes without being in the city council. But these are policies that are addressed on the line of working, different aspects, such as relieving pressure and also developing new lines of entrants of thought. Quite often these elements are in different line or even opposed to the local or national government's policies, the most broadening of the cases, that most cities now are eliminating the cities from their their imperial throne as the leader of our the Trans-Provimation means that there are other governments that are betting for new roads and cars. And one of them is the issue of food that year, this year as the speakers will express will be developed from Barcelona. Today's event, as you all know considering the information we sent you, is that I will quickly give the floor to Susanne Riga. She's the co-chair of the coordinator of the Green European Foundation and later we will have Lidon Martrat from the City Council of Barcelona. She is the commissioner on the capitality of sustainable food that this year falls on the city of Barcelona. We will have Ana Martín, the lieutenant or the responsible person of El Prada Llobregat and Gemma Francesc has been for the last few years. She's been the manager of the agrarian park of Llobregat. We will have a Q&A session, 10-15 minutes if we have time and that those of you who are here will be able to answer well, with no further ado, because I am not the important person here, but now Susan Riga will address some words to you. Thank you. I will continue in Spanish to first of all say welcome on behalf of the Green European Foundation. I'm very happy to see that we have this issue on the table today and I would like to thank Nose Religion Foundation for having organized this event together with the Green European Foundation. I am not the most important person today because we are as Jeff, as a Green European Foundation, we are covering the framework of it all, but definitely I would like to have some time to determine what we do and why we do it and how we do it. One of the Green European Foundation uses and receives money from the European Parliament in order to talk about European topics or to European related topics, topics that are important in Europe. Let's put it that way and to start some debates about issues that are important in Europe. Yeah, definitely. Clearly, as the Foundation of the Greens, our approach has to do with social sustainable green topics where we can see and where we can develop altogether ideas that will save our planet, where we'll be able to participate as citizens. We do that as an organization from Brussels, but we do it in cooperation with the different national green foundations. In this case, the Nose Religion Foundation is our partner and we've been working with them with such projects and we're also working and offering magazines, online courses, skill building programs, developing new capacities in different aspects. Sergei very well said that this is a transnational project because the most important for us is the European discourse, the European approach, trying to find elements and ideas that are cross-sectional that can be innovative and also to support you all into a debate. When we talk about the Greens in Europe, we talk about the green wave that has come here and hopefully it will get to us in the north. It's very important for us to find and develop green debates in this project of cities, places for hope. We have eight foundations from different countries with the idea of finding a topic where the Greens are quite strong and where we have success and where we also have the possibility of developing and influence a level of cities where we have a clear relation with our citizens. For us, this is one of the most important topics because there we find issues about mobility, distribution, climate change, how to fight against climate change and also how to live well, how to eat well, how to develop our lives in adequate manner. And also let's say thanks to all of you to Know Horizons Foundation and to all the speakers that we will listen to. Well, it makes me feel so happy to see that it's a woman's panel. It's a women's panel and this is something that we are very much interested in promoting and dealing with the issues of feminism and knowing that you are very important speakers with a great level of sensitivity on this topic. Please start whenever you want and enjoy this chat. Thank you, Susanne, for your words and would like to give the floor to Martrat. I would like to first of all say thank you to all of you who made this event possible because without them it would be totally impossible. People that are behind and sometimes when we have live, well before we had live events, now we have remote events. Jaume Rieda and Sandra Kröv, well Sandra is making a strong effort and Jaume Rieda is our interpreter who is making a big effort also to interpret. Thank you so much. With no further ado, I'd like to give the floor to Lidon Martrat. She is the member of the commission of Barcelona for the capital of sustainable for Lidon. You have the floor. Thank you, Sergi. I will speak in Spanish to facilitate an interpretation which however is not a problem because I am in Catalan as well but in any case thank you for inviting us. It's very enriching to share this experience. I'd like to share the experience because it's very interesting but also to learn from other experiences and visions about this topic. In this case food sustainability. Barcelona world capital of sustainable food. This is a project that was originated in the fact that Barcelona since the year 2015 signed the Milano agreement over 200 cities in the world signed that agreement. They committed themselves by signing the agreement to promote food, urban food and sustainable policies and Barcelona since the year 2015 when we signed this agreement developed a strategy in order to support food urban food policies and the competencies we have in our cities are limited that Barcelona has an importance and incumbents even if we don't have all the competencies but we have a specific commission and we include food policies. Thanks to this work of wanting to support this strategy in the year 2018 we were able to reach the capital of this event for the year 2021 so this year we will host this summit of cities from the agreement from the Milano agreement in the month of October but this project of sustainable food capital is built around this summit of you know winning the capitality but we also wanted to give it a further boost the global boost from the city of Barcelona by saying well we should use this year that we are the capital of world food to put food policies in right in the core of the political debate and give them a specific weight in the municipal global policies we believe that food considering our pandemic is in the core of the climate emergency and food policies in this respect city of Barcelona are seen as a key element I'll give you the overview of the project which will follow definitely these lines in one of its main axis the food as the center of climate change and climate crisis well then when hosting this summit we generated we built this project that won't you know during the whole year will be celebrating actions events related to sustainable food with the programming of activities during the whole year and also in the month of October we will celebrate the city's forum from the Milano agreement and in the month of October around 16 of October we'll celebrate the sustainable food summit with actions that are important for the related to the gastronomic forum which will take place between that the 80 to the 20th I would like to use the whole year considering that the food is in the core of the political agenda and the in the media agenda to support and propel urban projects that have a long evolution the program of events the gastronomic forum sustainable some food summit and food urban food policies this this means that we'll be able to put everything in the core of our actions let me give you the overview of all these events sustainable food capitality has to do with three main access food in the core of the climatic emergency has a big opportunity to face it through the programming of a food system distribution production and sustainable eco production consuming local products and also fighting against the the food waste the second access of this overview is food and food system as an economic opportunity and because one of the links of the food chain is a small and middle-sized agriculture we call pagesos farmers small farmers that are in one of the most delicate situations they are in a difficult situation you know to economically survive because this sector is little by little disappearing from society and and this and an eco production has a big leeway for production in catalonia something that we'd like to to support in the second access economic opportunity for the world of production but also for our restaurants for well and in municipal markets they have the opportunity to offer as an added value to big channels of distribution the classical distribution channels while giving as another value proximity fresh ecological products which in the last survey of omnivores you know is shown as one of the most important elements that sometimes this is not translated into real actions and that has to do with the the option of having access to these type of foods an economic opportunity to offer sustainable food for people that are highly vulnerable the right to adequate food is the right to a sustainable food healthy food inadequate culturally adequate food and also nutritious inadequate and sustainable and the third access of our vision of our overview is the promotion of sustainable and healthy diets for all people the issue of food health connected to inequalities is shown to be as an opportunity that can foster activities in schools in community areas where people can eat at a better price well I'll give you some information about the strategy project with these three access of our vision of overview we're able to work also on the framework and the conceptual framework and the in overview consider what we understand as sustainable foods we have worked in experts in urban policies with the city manual of sustainable food in based on nine principles connected to three main elements something which is good for the sustainability and good for our territories and with these three access we will define the nine principles of sustainable food it has to do with the proximity season eco elements systems that are terrorized with the food distribution that guarantee the right way of living for producers and a reasonable price of quality elements well all these proximity elements that are the best for the planet as far as sustainability is concerned they should also be the best and the most affordable for most citizens what are we going to do because you know we have a conceptual framework but well I'm running out of time as I told you in the year 2021 what we will do is to work on these three main access the programming of activities I would like to invite you all to visit element of sustainability dot Barcelona where you will see all the agenda of elements and the programming of events the summit the sustainable food week that will be the big event for citizens we have different artistic activities and from the 15th to the 24th of October all the city will will be talking about sustainable food will flood the center of Barcelona with different activities with posters with different workshops for all ages and conditions with round tables well you name it you can follow that we have the big projects of food and nutrition we would like to articulate this programs in all the municipal areas we visualize food policies as absolutely cross-sectional policies for example policies from urban ecology from different areas we work food and nutrition we work on all areas so that we can identify problems related to food and see how we could work on it while aligning uh sustainable and identify we define several axes of work I'm I just I was running out of time I started running fast uh the promotion of sustainable and health and healthy diets uh we have different projects connected to food and education teaching teachers training teachers through sustainable school the sustainable the training school from the city consulate Barcelona introducing healthy diets and in schools we generate resources guides manuals training teachers training we have well well helping well transformation to transforming the the areas where people meet in schools and in hospitals etc well these things that will be implemented in all schools in Barcelona we are also working in the modification of procurement introducing proximity criteria in something that that will affect all areas of the city consulate Barcelona that have to do some procurement of food elements distribution of food we consume food as a city as a city concept so all those projects that promote distribution and the offer a good offer in the municipal markets and shops of proximity eco and short commercialization so direct selling from farmers to to to retailers this is the next is we are working on we have the the center of of proximity foods each change system we are working with the the farmers union we are working with mercabana with mercabana in the area of biomarket we're trying to to collaborate with the different producers stimulating these projects and in parallel where we will directly be working on is the markets and now this is something that we talked about in a press conference and we were able to promote different offers an offer with these three access eco products short circuit and proximity supply we are showing those that exceed certain threshold of this type of products an important work access that has to do with the agro food that will foster area of agro food mirrors of our group of supply we have can call off as as centers of production in the city that that they shouldn't be production centers but rather well i'll talk about the urban scope we cannot talk about food policies without lidon sorry to interrupt you but you just ran out of time three minutes three minutes thank you that's what i needed a final boost well well having these reference centers in barcelona and turning them into reference areas that through urban and municipal and community orchards and gardens as a place of as a way of helping people to to get them closer to areas of production connecting bridging the gap between the urban and the rural and through the rest of the projects that we have so that the city stops turning its back to to the metropolitan belt the agro park near barcelona and you know connect citizens to the food production areas considering the value and the importance of the rural world as well the the area that will support our biodiversity and the rural world and that's all i have to say i think that if you have any questions i'll be happy to answer fantastically done and i'm sorry to to you know stop you sometimes you know doing this in public is it's it's tough but you know doing it remotely it's also even tougher i'm sure that we will have questions and definitely we have to be in barcelona in the month of october or even before otherwise you'll be missing something important i i know that will be will be there with no further ado i would like now to give the floor to anna martin she is the counsellor of the el prat city council covering environmental policies including agricultural as well anna martin i'd like to thank you all because i asked you to to participate in in this event and quite a long time ago at that moment the airport noise was not as big as as now but she found the spot in her agenda she's normally busy but right now i'm sure that you are going to be busier considering the airport but uh new policies uh well anyway this effect not only your city but the rest of europe anna you had the floor thank you very much i'd like to thank you for having invited me because sometimes it's good to to get out of the the craze and frenzy something determined by other priorities so having some space to you know to be able to share experiences considering the capitality and the agro park well these are two wonderful parks about agro park or the farming park you know in our territory we have a farming park and we are also working with the the capitality that you know this capital they should permeate not only bursala but the surrounding municipalities so stopping for a moment and talking about food policies means talking about the future talking about climate emergency and i think it's also supporting the expansion of the airport this is the mantra that we've had in our minds for a long time trying to you know see the right way to to to do things so i'm grateful to get out of this this craze of the airport and talking about other topics i will focus on local policies that we work that we work with in the in the city council this is connected to what we will see later on and i'm sure that we'll be able to deepen into any of the projects that we are carrying out but i would like to see or show you what el prato lubricates it just means the party of 65 000 inhabitants it's in the bad lubricate area inside the metropolitan area or the first ring very close to barcelona we are connected to the port the airport that cover our territory but i'd like to also say that we are surrounded by natural areas we are surrounded by a a farming park which is wonderful then and naturally 2000 areas that are protected in europe a river and a beach that determines part of our borders our green infrastructures that are the good ones also set a strategy and a positioning as a city in when defending our land our agriculture proximity agriculture and a direct relation you know that has to do with the environment you know culture and environment are interconnected in some areas generating a sustainable agriculture uh healthy agriculture i believe that jama francés will speak about the importance of having a farming park this allows us to to work with our citizens and determine the importance of proximity foods and unfortunately with our pandemic we've seen how important it is to have at your reach a farmer that had a market that had a shop and proximity that made us think a lot about and and we were able to talk to to other farmers this this means that our pandemic affected us in different ways we'll go from the macro to the macro to the micro we support farmers without farmers without agricultures we cannot generate local produce and we support production of these farmers and also we support the good infrastructures of water supply rows in rows that are necessary for their work evolution supplying all citizens with good food so all farming area is helping the metropolitan area and also the support is well it's connected to cooperative in el in el prat we have an agreement with 100 000 years to help farmers and support local production in merca barna the marcelona market these are the big markets that supply the rest of the cities like merca barna it's a huge infrastructure in this case so that they can sell their proximity produce because it's healthier and because uh you know you know uh just moving one kilometer where you can have fresh fruit fresh veggies this support we offer from our city council has generated over 40 partners working and on awareness raising with an economic rational it's not maybe so capitalistic maybe it has to do with globalization and the food channels that are broken and we need to read address we support farmers since the year 2015 sergi knows this project very well we have the farmers market it's an initiative that intense to help farmers selling their produce in the city this takes place in a very centric square in el prat and it's a big success because citizens found an area where farmers of the farming park sell their produce produce that they gathered in the morning and this area became an area of awareness raising and and and big campaigns because three space we develop different campaigns with recipes with uh well with schools that that prepare educational projects with respect to agriculture and they use our farmers park to talk to farmers asking them how they do things and and and and you know to to connect the dots and it's an initiative which which is totally consolidated in our city highly re-indicated during the pandemic we were one of the municipalities that did not close the farmers market they had all the security market measures but farmers and proximity produce was as essential as others it was uh it was as important as a big market as a big regular market no well you know farmers were able to sell and this was an excellent practice because many other city councils called us and asked well how did you develop your this idea and and currently i can proudly say that this market never stopped working supporting consumption and i would like not to talk to you about the big work done in el prat so that uh proximity uh food is is consumed through our restaurants not only local produce but from the farmer spark how did consumption could go from the individual families to the restaurants in the city so they could at restaurants they could work seasonable seasonal um menus uh it's done through uh through a project called al prat tastes we use uh uh artichokes from al prat chicken from al prat and other foods that we have in our area and there is some some kind of a stamp quality stamp quality label and when you go to a certain restaurant you know that what you are going to eat is a proximity healthy food and that vision includes a certain quality concept these restaurants became more involved with farmers in in the farmer's park and they participated in gastronomic campaigns that we developed like kitotapa artichoke and for a month we prepare menus around our treasures and one of our treasure which is el prat artichoke uh as i said before then these initiatives connected the many of our citizens to local consumption into knowing the big amount of fruits and veggies that we have in our territory knowing or the knowledge that we now have because sometimes we need to look back and see that in our city we have a lot of good things to offer knowing that we have proximity products makes people you know be aware of this and and they see that that they can buy uh in in in farmers markets in in other shops that the farmers also have therefore this connection of consumption and uh good produce proximity products that are so healthy uh is is an excellent element this worked really really well it's worth mentioning that our in our city we have two local produce that are el prat artichoke and blue leg uh chicken that are characteristic of our of our city many people know us about from and after these these products artichokes on the one hand it's an emblematic vegetable of el prat and of the whole area this is built this is this is grown actually in an area of the farmers park it's like the the the delta queen it's an area of production that covers 500 hectares in march or in april we have different campaigns to promote this consumption and to to show it and make it popular we have cultural activities in el park in el prat generate contests and and and other activities during the pandemic in the year 2020 well the citizen used the hashtag let's eat artichoke the people took pictures and and generated videos they were confined they were locked down by the protagonist of these social media other than than talking about the the pandemic allowed us to to use artichoke it was thrilling to see how how healthy uh eating artichoke was this year uh the metropolitan area and became very involved through this world capitality of sustainable food we have tried to go a step beyond our area go beyond the river and so that the bursarana markets could also promote our products but it's so healthy and that's very well known now the same happens with blue leg chicken a traditional breeding open air with regulated food with culinary properties a fantastic taste we have an igp label in mid-december we have an aviary fair where we promote chicken but there's a gastronomic space people realize that our chicken is very very good it's very very healthy and therefore from here on we've developed all the quality characteristics of this product proximity and eco food generated some initiatives as mentioned by my lidon uh what some schools decided to to develop some some areas we have a unification of menus with quality of products diversification cultural reasons etc we actively participate with activities to try to to coach some centers and and help others to to begin implementing these activities in our city we have a very powerful group called as people others they fight and to use food empowering some people within the risk of exclusion so that they can sustainably participate in in in a set of goals they don't want to waste food they want to improve access to the right food and the healthiest food and in our city they have their headquarters this is going to also with the capital capitality the food waste is terrible in the northern countries well you know whenever this certain food doesn't look nice it's thrown away even if it's in good condition they use this this food to prepare marmalade jams and they re-indicate the fact that these foods these veggies these fruits even if they don't look shiny it's a very very it offers a very good quality and we're preparing a strategic plan of sustainable food in El Prat in the framework of this capitality because Barcelona made us think that maybe it was necessary we had to make a a diagnosis so that our citizens have healthy food so that we can think about all this jointly we detected this need and I'm sure that in the month of October we'll be able to approve this strategic plan in El Prat that is you know making us very happy and very aware of the fact that you know we'll be able to give an answer to the social needs and environmental needs in an open way this is part of the reflections and the considerations that that we'll may be making today and considering a climate emergency we're considering such a climate emergency what can we do how can we react properly first of all meat is highly affected as I said before the city council is working in different actions all of them connected to the Milano agreement and we also participate in the network of cities that allow us to to be in touch with the rest of the cities of Spain and we participate in this program of capitality and finally I would like to say and talk about the strategic plan that we are developing that has a lot to do with agriculture you know working locally with food it means working with agriculture and we'd like to create a project in Cantudela which is an agricultural area in a singular space we're willing to connect environment and agriculture in a single space while generating this area of agricultural transfer we'd like to support this traditional house generating awareness from childhood to families you know showing how we can manage an experience of a peri-urban protected area food production which will be managed with and also selling food through our cooperative and as well as other ages that would like to join us and in our city we have a training cycle that that includes agroecology and we would like to give the opportunity to young people who want to work in the fields and above all I think that a very interesting thing is to offer other services to to health platformers considering that we have UPC which is a university that is also training agronomists it will be good to connect both dots from the city council we are in the right place I think that this food chain is broken in some of the links and I think that we have to re-indicate a democratic and fair model and from the local world we are the administration of proximity we have the possibility to guide many citizens about the need of becoming involved in all this sphere of action I'm I you know I had many other projects to tell you about but I will stop here this has to do with the agro policies that we have in mind thank you very much I was about to start asking you to to stop well Lidon and Anna we have questions and then please don't don't leave today I believe that you can see me well you're gonna miss you're gonna miss much he says well Jaume Riera is you know you know making a big big effort because we are hearing a big big amount of information thank you Jaume for interpreting this into English considering the speed the speakers are using let me give now the floor to another woman Gemma Flan says she is the manager of the agro and farmers food of Basliu Bragaat Gemma with no further ado we have well your intervention for the next 15 minutes thank you I can't hear you I'm sorry you're muted you're muted Gemma you're muted now now it is working yeah excellent well as I said before thank you for inviting our consortium and as well you'll have an easier task because what all the previous speakers said will be repeated in my intervention we all are following a same train of thought yeah we heard about this farmers park this is located in one of the 14 municipalities that are part of El Basliu Bragaat park agro and farmers park this park has a specific element it's a protected area only for agricultural use and this is an element that I really like to to point out we are not a natural area but rather we are an area of food production a protected protected area this is an element which is very important because as we are defined we have a special plan uh an urbanistic regulation defined by the metropolitan area of Barcelona the municipal body and as a consortium we have to follow these guidelines that are determined by this special plan and in a certain way we at our park will will be producing food focused on agriculture orchard for vegetables and then and fruits we are also entitled to to develop some some swine activities but now we are not doing any actions on on that sphere whoever works whoever works in this park needs to be a professional farmer so the idea is professional agriculture when we talk about agriculture in the metropolitan sphere and I'll talk to you about management because you know the context is something that is has been clearly presented previously we have some difficulties traditionally agriculture is focused on rural areas or in peri urban areas and I'm saying peri urban areas because this sometimes involves a certain idea of marginality one of the tasks that we have in our area of management it's something that we are trying to visualize and that the capitality helped us strengthen this vision is that agriculture can also take place in urban areas we re-indicate the fact that we are a city and as a city we you know we have beaches we have colesterol range and mountain range we have the airport and we have the we have mercavarna we also have a professional park for farmers and it includes certain elements of interest in this territory we have companies and these companies are limited by law certain activities our park is a good example those of you who live in El Prat those of you who are part of this farming park know it very well this is something that that was born spontaneously it's nearly impossible that in 1998 in a highly pressurized area with a great agricultural value was protected this farming park was created in 1998 with the strength of the El Prat city council and the Bajlubaragat council we have a super municipal body which is the city council of Barcelona and that met us very strongly and we also have the farmers union we have 14 municipalities that without considering Barcelona we are speaking about 800 000 inhabitants and we also have the department of agriculture and currently well one year ago we had the metropolitan area of Barcelona and they are what we call the consortium of the farmer's park this consortium is the tool of management is the institutional framework that allows us to achieve the goals that we have in mind with our management black which is our roadmap we have the special plan which is the regulatory plan which allows us to determine what we can do and what we cannot do in this area we have the management plan the management plan allows us to determine some actions and activities what are these projects well please consider that we now after well let me put it that way the Spanish government or state had a big recession after 1998 this had an impact on all public administrations and in our park the budget was reduced in 50% after the year 2010 2011 and later on we began living again and we are currently talking about 1,300,000 years used to pay the staff of our consortium as well as promotional activities and development of our agricultural activities Anna talked about some of the activities because she's part of this umbrella the first activity is basically it's very important to support infrastructures for example we are speaking about infrastructures improving the road structure the watering channels and the draining channels also this is an area that covers a big part of our budget and as Anna said we do this in collaboration with city councils we reach agreements with different city councils to improve roads watering and drainage networks every year year after year we also follow a certain urban discipline we have a service of surveillance that other than preventing possible theft you know well 800,000 people live in an area surrounding our park they think you know it's a green it's a green area and they think it's a park and many people go there and well there we have theft we have theft during the weekends of people who want to eat the artichokes but we also have a more professional theft and this is a big problem considering the daily practice of the professional activities and farmers are also entrepreneurs they have to live to make a living with their economic activities so we have this service of surveillance and you know they watch the possible urban infractions so that we can talk to different city councils about this problem we have the agronomic support we support what in Catalonia we call the green defense associations these are key elements because these organizations we have farmers and they allow us to hire agronomists, engineers to control the pests etc and other than the pest control they help them they support them with respect to production we strongly bet on this we have two green defense associations in Baselio Braga the area they share the structure and the facilities with us we give them this support and we also give them a subvention of 60 60 000 euro each one they do applied research and they are basic elements because together with the university this is an intermediate level of you know developing research applied on the territory we also give subventions for the recuperation of land of used land and just giving you general information I don't know you know fixing a plot that may cost 5000 euros half a hectare so this is the support that we give farmers here we also have a further element that you know we could talk about the management of the fauna birds birds like the red cherries and well they love them as much as we do no matter whether they are ecological or conventional cherries or you name it so here we have an element of conflict between the farming management and the natural management this is difficult to manage the consortium after the request of several municipalities you know not on our door so that we could manage this problem this is the difficult thing to manage and here we have to you know start understanding a certain reality we also have another block which has to do with a water control analysis a water is a basic element for farming activities and our technicians do these water analysis on a yearly basis and we participate in European projects connected to the university with UPC university and we are also developing a project with the metropolitan area of Barcelona we also have the promotion because we have our own stamp this is a free stamp for farmers called fresh produce from El Prado de Llobregat Park it's not a quality stamp or label it's just the states that you are a producer of the area and we develop different activities connected to this label as Anna said before promotion in all the farmers markets it includes decoration of these markets supported by the consortium we did or Andrew took some regulatory measures so that the farmers that are in these farmers markets well so that they are part of our market I'm just giving you information general information and this generates some some some level of friction because consumers want diversity they want a bit of everything and farmers in the area produce four five six eight different types of fruits or or vegetables so we have something that needs to be analyzed and then we have to see how we can not become a fruit shop but to sell our products directly we also participate in a project called the taste of the orchard of Baselio de Llobregat and this was begun in the year 2014 if I'm not mistaken with two restaurants that you know we knock on their doors we participate with the consortium of tourism of the consortium and right now we have 60 restaurants that work with us many of them are part of the El Prado project because they are greatly aware of it all they are the prescribers that we work with and what are we doing with them well we are working on the idea or the following idea the restaurants need to be supported so farmers don't have the time to you know take one kilo of tomatoes to this restaurant and then one kilo to the other Lidon talked about see at the center of proximity produce each chain each change we're trying to find formulas formulae that that allow us to develop this proximity concept while eliminating the drawbacks that's that this may have we include also another line focused on agro shops and we also participate in different fairs we do show cooking and as Anna said before with the city council and the different city council is 14 in total allow us to develop a good task we are connected to what Lidon before just said we'd like to underscore the idea of a single territorial project in the metropolitan area of Barcelona the farming land that is practically testimonial and we are a different project we are farmers and our flagship is to potentiate professional farming people that live on this can also live on this sector with their compliments and well we are a green long agriculture generates certain positive externalities and we have this relation we are a green and white area and well I like to re-indicate a different concept our park is not a serial we are not a soy producer we are producers of artichokes we have produced of cherries we produce apricots we produce final a final product that goes directly to the mouth of final users but well things come directly from the land to the plate this is something that we need to to clearly understand a country like Catalonia we are we are importers of foods from different areas and we have to have some storage areas distributed in different areas of the country together with Spain so our farming park is one of the areas that could be considered a depot we are speaking about fruit and we are also we are also part of the metropolitan area and we take care of Colserola mountain we're taking care of the beach we know what the beach needs we have to know what is required what is needed Jim sorry one minute and you should be stopping we are asking the Catalan government to improve the watering channels and the drainage channels we have a problem of flooding and also we have some contradictions that this model generates it's an eco model that fosters mobility inside of the farming park we have a problem with bicycles we have important conflicts with bikers we have to determine how we can fit in some of the new areas we have and for example we will have when we create new areas this will generate some restrictions I'm sorry because I mixed many elements on my apologies to the interpreter for speaking so fast thank you Gemma it's been very interesting we have a comment and I'd like to thank you for thanking us for organizing this event it's this is you to the quality of the contributions with no further due to try to you know follow our schedule I'd like to mention that we'll have some some questions we have Gemma I have a question for you but you were the last speaker so you will be the last to answer the first question is for Lidon the question is well in the city council of Barcelona we have a mayor we have a team of people but do you have a degree of consensus some people may consider that your government may continue to the future but some others consider that they you may not continue so what would happen if the government changes in the city council of Barcelona would there be a continuity well obviously there is a political commitment the rest is also very important the consensus you achieve with the management with the management of the different areas the teams that have to to lead the projects so currently I think that well I'm not in the political sphere though I work with the commissioner and I'm part of his team but there's a quite good consensus with the work we've been doing for the last year since the year 2019 actually we've been working on these project of capitality and you know we've generated these consensus with respect to the concept of sustainable food and what do we understand as sustainable food and well we have achieved many many things politically and managerially there's been an alignment though it's not a total alignment but certainly I would say that it's nearly perfect because the concept we are dealing with and how we would like to work on it is clearly aligned landing this on some specific policies means that we have to fine-tune the different elements of the different projects and how to become more specific and we may generate some more debate in some of these these concepts let me say let me put it this way it's not ideological it's not only a matter of concepts but it has to do with how to land the projects how to make them or turn them into a reality so this means that we have different actors we have markets each person has different ways of working we have been working in the city council changing previous projects we have just arrived we have just landed here to transform things this is something that cannot be done in one year municipal markets or the federation of market setters guilds we've listed the green concepts what was the level the percentage of of proximity produce that you had to have if you were a fruit and veggies shop or being a meat shop when we started debating about these little things we knew that we had to do a lot of pedagogy a lot of you know support work talking about the the the importance of these proximity products not just with respect to the technicians but rather the guilds fruit and veggies butchers and meat producers we have used our manuals channels that we generated and this allowed us to to work with others and and this is the best way to align visions and turn things into realities and in some cases we were able to make it in some other cases we were not we were about to there's a great deal of complexity and every project that we work on markets also have a great complexity and results we have an internal project that we need to to to work on will be very complex but very very positive i share many well there's there's an indian project proper that says that if you if you want to go quickly go alone but if you won't go if you want to go far you have to be accompanied by others these words reflect this idea the idea that clearly determines the complex policies that cover so many different areas so many different items so many vectors of our personal lives and and and of society etc i will now leave the last question to to ana but jemma there's a question these are general questions and i would like to see how you can answer these general questions there's a hot potato this hot potato which is proximity the question is the farmers park is is a great experience but but you are not going to generate serious you're not going to generate meat and not other products we should see if we have jemma's project it's difficult to answer because there's no answer we have many definitions there's no specific and answer when you talk about proximity or and you read the the the laws determined by the ministry of agriculture or the department of agriculture in the and climate actions there is not a framework of reference in many cases this was limited to the kilometers to the certain amount of kilometers proximity means that our park and and and things beyond our park is not proximity well i think that katalonia is proximity or why don't we include spain there and some others some others may say well there's no specific definition i believe that in with respect to proximity we have many studies and that talk about the amount of energy involved in you know selling the petro foods i don't know if you ever heard this concept petro food how to use energy or water that is generating information about the use of water as lidon said before food and food production and agro production should on the one hand be part of the concept of sustainability and the reduction of the environmental impact generated by production therefore the closer the better we also have another element which is very important to me proximity it should allow quality of life to those people that work in the park a fair salary a good quality of life we have a more subjective component in the quality of life but that this should allow us to live a good life so we had to fit in these elements in the puzzle years ago we talked about fair trade now fair trade is something that we don't hear about fair trade comes from far away and i think that ultimately we should probably try to be coherent with all those as lidon said with all those areas that from the administration or from companies are observed under the umbrella of sustainability the concept of sustainability should foster local production should foster buying next door whenever they act in a responsible way because not all that is but it is close to us is good and as lidon also said we have to understand that we are at a sector we are working in a sector that includes contradictions and complexities in in the same amount don't get me wrong when i said that we are not a natural space yes we are a green area and a natural area but we we also include contradictions that in the under the umbrella of sustainability the green concept sometimes we hear things that are quite naive where we place our solar panels where we use our green energy that involves a lot of contradictions in this sustainable and ecological model i think that proximity should be a value but should not be the main value we have other values that are very important i personally believe that if i have to buy coffee i'd rather use fair trade because i'll be helping certain communities comes from far away this will generate a great deal of co2 and with the improvement of the airplane technology will be able to reduce co2 but in any case these are topics that we maybe maybe the my answer is is rather blurry but in any case proximity and is is a mistake because sometimes the administration determines certain things and then reality goes through another comes from another place we have to have a social criteria we have to understand that our community may need for us thank you jemma if lidon well lidon made me remember that indian proverb but you made me you made you reminded me the please please use common sense don't cook anything that your grandmother wouldn't eat and you said before what you said before is very important we have to use common sense and i'd like to thank you for being so sincere and for being so courageous you didn't give me a politically correct answer you you know you were committed because you expressed your opinion not what we sometimes want to hear no matter what the social and public initiatives we hear if you you have to use common sense intelligence and not only slogans on the one hand or on the other okay now the last question is for ana we have a person who asked that question it also had a similar question matter of knowing how your position is but rather how from do you see from the city council of al pratt how do you see the proposal from aina that beyond the environmental impact that this might have considering this expansion of the third lane the takeoff lane at the airport or landing lane how is this going to affect your green areas are we going to transform part of the farmers park and turn it into an airport four minutes maximum quickly we are totally against the expansion of the airport considering the destruction of a natural area that is a protected area called la ricarda and this proposal is you know you know destroying the agreements reached with the administration with the delta plan where we determined the limits of the airport and the question was how can we share live between the natural park and the airport what we cannot do is to expand any of these infrastructures because oftentimes and democrats as I said it very well you know we have compensation plans exist but the compensation for the unreplaceable areas are nothing we have biodiversity we have a fauna we have protection these things cannot be eliminated you cannot compensate on top of farming land and therefore this is a surrealistic proposal that goes that is far from reality totally outside of what was said in europe far away from what europe did with the airport models that are more respectful with nature but maybe we didn't have to concentrate all this in barcelona allowing all reocentrona having more flights europe is saying that we have well that we have we're in the middle of a pandemic but we have a climate emergency and this expansion of the airport is away from the green recovery programs we need more green policies without speaking about the fact that we have a letter from the european union from the month of february that determines that the natural spaces of the delta of the yobaragat river were affected negatively affected because of a lack of actions well there were not enough compensations previously and now we don't believe that compensation plans will be generated with no impact on farming soil it's not feasible it's surrealistic and this is you know distant from what not the european union but the planet is determining sometimes the european union may be right or may be wrong but the planet earth is saying please help me this is connected to food to consumption it's connected to proximity production it's connected to transport for example we have to see what is the use of transport things can be done many of the transport can be done by train we have to infravaluate airports like in reos and in girona we sometimes have to think beyond or outside the box they have to be working on a sustainable model i think that airport and the park and the and the farmer farming park can live only if they live the way they are living now they cannot they cannot be one on top of the other it's not really feasible to to to combine a new airport or or an expansion of the airport and the farmers park survival this is totally the la ricarda area is cannot be replaced it's not like a piece of a puzzle taking it from left side to the right side diversity is not uh it's not so simple the management of all the areas is very difficult and we should not place the general interest of this type of infrastructures on an on a green area climate emergency should make us understand that things have to be sustainable things have to be greener thank you so much ana obviously i personally believe and i also believe that the rest of the speakers expected a different answer i'd like to thank you for being so sincere and so so so clear and and so obvious uh the chantage that is being generated on the city of el praeta of the metropolitan area on catalonia having two other airports near uh barcelona that are infreused this is something that can only happen probably in spain or in catalonia but but uh not in other european countries it's out of place out of time out of everything well it's 6 30 i'd like to thank you very much for being here even if i haven't seen you because you're listening to us you're you're you're he's seeing us it's uh been a very positive debate i'd like to invite you all to to join us in the metropolitan area and to see the farmer's park to see the beach to see many many things and uh well once again thank you susanne rieger ledon thank you gem and thank you ana and obviously once again thank you sandra everything was perfectly uh structured and jauma uh who will uh be probably tired by now because we've heard a great deal of fast and dense information thank you very much to all of you i'd like to thank from the seo no religions and g e f green european foundation together with other uh people that are part of different different organizations well hopefully in the moment of september or november we'll have hybrid events so that we can see each other in person thank you